The Questlove Show - QLS Classic: Millie & Keisha Jackson Pt. 2
Episode Date: February 11, 2025Look back at part 2 of Questlove Supreme's 2022 interview with Millie Jackson and Keisha Jackson. This mother and daughter powerhouse spoke about their relationship and careers while sitting with Team... Supreme at an Atlanta studio. Keisha discussed her solo catalog, performing with OutKast, recording with Da Brat, and her ongoing Yacht Rock Revue project. Meanwhile, Millie explained tapping into her Country side, on her own terms.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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from Questlove Supreme.
We have an incredible two-part
QLS classic episode
with the legendary
Miller Jackson
and her equally legendary
daughter, Keisha Jackson.
This mother-daughter tandem
was wonderful when QLS got them
in Atlanta back in September
2023.
Millie in particular
kicked down many a divorce
about what you can say on record
and what you can't say on record.
She said everything.
And she's not one of the mince words, all right?
Here's part two.
Enjoy.
What is it like being a teenager in our house?
Like, you couldn't be rebellious, could you?
She is.
Yes, she was.
I was on the road.
Oh.
Oh.
Okay.
She was on the road.
Okay.
So, yes, rebellion was the middle name.
Mm.
Because of the maid.
Oh, you had a maid.
We had a housekeeper.
Okay.
Okay.
She snitched.
She loved me.
she didn't snitch on everything.
She told some things because she had to.
She'd be found out otherwise.
Right, right, right.
So, but she, she was my covering.
Like, she was such a blessing to me because she loved me like I was hers.
You know what I mean?
Her name was Vani.
So there were instances, and I don't know if she ever knew this, but here comes.
Report cards would come.
Man.
Baby, I had mastered turning an F into an A.
Oh, that little digital app.
Oh, you turned a little digital printout the app.
No, it was a digital.
It wasn't digital then.
They wrote it.
So I would find a pen.
I had to bring it back. I had to bring it back.
I'm sorry.
I had to bring it back.
I would find a pen if it was a black or if it was a blue.
I would find a damn pen to match the color.
And like I would test it on one paper.
And then I would change an F to an A.
You about to get a woman.
I would change.
We had E.
as well.
Yeah, easy.
But an F to an E's ain't no good either.
I was like, well, I can't.
So I just, the ones that I could change, I did.
So I may have two or three Fs.
But didn't you have to have her sign it?
But depending upon how they wrote it, how quickly they wrote it.
Do you need something?
I might be able to turn this one.
She'll be all right.
Okay.
Just in case she wanted, you know, you want to spat.
And I was able to do this because, like, so in school.
Wait, I don't think you should tell the story now because the way she's staring at you.
She's all right.
That's that you know you got a ride with me home look.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
That's true.
That's true.
So she would be overseas.
You know, back then, obviously no cell phones.
And so she might be gone for a month.
And we knew when she was coming, look at she, barling over there.
She knew that.
I'm traumatized.
Listen, yeah.
We knew that, you know, there was a certain day of the week that she was going to call.
Okay.
That's when I had to be at the house by the phone.
Be inside.
your mother's calling at 3 o'clock, that kind of a thing.
But I also knew, like, there were things going on at school.
So if there was a dance, if there was something else going on, I wanted to go.
But I knew the damn report card was in the mail pile.
And I knew that when she came home, she don't know none of this.
Come on.
Because you opened up the envelope.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Yeah.
So the mail would come and the new mail, boom, on top, on top.
So I knew exactly where the report card was.
So before she came, I would take the shit and slap it.
to the bottom because she only
dealt with a couple pieces of mail at a time when she came home.
I'm sorry.
If y'all can see her right in here right now,
forfeiting to a fist.
Millie's on fire.
An incredible story to tell you other,
but that's how I used to kind of hustle.
Like, okay, she gets home on a Monday,
the dance is on Friday.
I don't know how many.
So she would deal with a couple of pieces of male at a time.
And then I'm paying attention to her.
Oh, she went through that.
Let me move it down a little bit further.
Let me move it down.
Listen, I'm going to this damn dance.
Right.
But there was one time when the damn I didn't, I couldn't go to the dance because she beat me to the, you know, the mail pile beat me to the date.
So I had, and I recently reminded her of this and she was like, I do not remember this.
Right.
She went to, so I had a dance on a Friday.
I asked if I could go.
She said, no, flat out.
There was a tomboy, me.
Oh, okay.
So there was a window in my room, second level, across the hall from her.
Okay.
There was a tree that had a trunk just so perfect that I could step out.
Never did this before this, but I'm going to the stands.
She told me I couldn't go.
I snuck out of the house.
Had my girlfriend meet me at the corner.
We got them.
Straight out of a movie.
I got changing the car.
the whole thing,
changing the car,
the whole thing,
I felt like Ferris Buse Day
and stuff like that, right, right.
Changing the car,
came back,
dance over,
I'm thinking,
okay, I made it.
Let me out at the corner.
Baby is coming.
Let me out at the corner.
I give,
I stuffed my bed.
Oh,
to look like you were laying in.
Yeah,
because I went to camp
and I learned all that kind of shit in camp.
Okay, until they touch you,
but that's okay.
Until they touch you.
But, you know, you're looking in the dark
like, is she sleep?
Oh, my baby, sleep.
Yeah.
The movies
Eaton.
You all my babies.
So I come back in the window.
Now, you know, this was a task.
Climb back up the tree.
It was a short, you know.
Get up the tree, come back in the window.
One thing.
If you're climbing and you go into a dance,
you're like, you dripped out already.
All right, that's what we know.
She changed her car.
She changed her car on the way back.
Oh, she got.
No, it wasn't.
Come on that.
You know, it was.
Oh, just regular.
So, yeah, I don't remember details what I had on,
but I worked it out.
Right.
Slide back in the window.
I'm tipping, tipping.
Let me hang on my shit in the closet.
Winning?
Slide in the closet door closed.
I'm about, I won.
I pulled back them goddamn covers,
and she was under the blanket.
Wow.
She's scared.
I'm like, I'm in there.
I'm quiet.
I'm like, oh, shit, I did it.
I couldn't believe it.
I go to slide it back.
And she started in like,
What you're laying in like that?
I'm saying, I mean, I mean.
So what did your mom?
I'm curious after that.
What happened?
I mean, first of all, I was, I screamed.
Uh-huh.
The housekeeper Vani knew about it.
Right, right.
So she outside the door, like, waiting.
She's waiting for the sounds and shit outside the door.
She already know, I pulled back the covers and she just said,
I screamed at the top of my voice.
And then I got my ass with it.
Okay.
That's right.
I mean, so there was no breaks.
Were you, you only child?
It was just you?
Well, by this time, no, my brother.
I have a brother.
Okay, got you.
But he's 11 years younger than me.
Just out of curiosity, is Millie, does she pick up something?
Is she a hand?
Is she a switch?
She's not a hand.
She's a switch and a belt.
Yeah.
And I had to pick the switch.
And I had to pick the belt.
Yes.
Take your ass back out to that tree and get me a switch.
Yeah, the belt drawer was right next to the wig draw.
Oh.
So you better not touch me.
So they be, you know, I'd be around the house playing, like, you know, and then go upstairs and get a belt.
You know where it is because you got that wig, so you know where the belt is.
I would hide the belt after whipping the next day.
I went to.
That was an entire draw.
There was no hiding.
And if I didn't pick the right one, it was going to last a little bit long.
Wait, there was one time where I hid so many belts that it's bad enough when your parents ask you to help them.
And I don't mean, like, go outside.
I remember once my dad was like,
Wait, wait, hold this for me.
And then he had, he went to go, he went to get, like, a vacuum that wasn't working.
So, like, picked up the cord.
And he could, like, it was a moment where we just had a three-minute, like, wait, wait.
Wait, how many instances are, like, we're, like, measuring shit.
I'm like, I'm like, measuring my ass working.
I'm like, why am I aiding in my own abuse?
Like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
I go up, if I took too long if I, it was just, it was hell.
Wow.
So when did you realize that you two had a voice and that you wanted to pursue this?
She always called me on stage.
When did you first start?
I mean, as long as I can remember, honestly, I would come to shows and she would say, Kisha, come here.
I'm always sitting on the side most of the time, and she would say come here.
But it would be on the most random shit.
So if loving you was wrong, here you go, ad lib.
I don't know nothing about this.
So I would do ooze and Oz and those kinds of things.
And she was always like, you know, so she always encouraged me until I wanted to do it.
Like, this is going to be my living because she said, you're going to college, you're going to be a lawyer.
Where did you go?
I went to, it didn't matter.
Bridgeport, Connecticut.
They weren't about shit.
So I was just going to college just to say I went to college.
That's it.
But she was, you're going to go to college and you are going to be a lawyer.
because she was like, you argue back better than anybody I know.
So that's what it was going to be.
And so that's how when I decided that I was singing like national anthems
and doing all that kind of stuff on campus.
And she was like, you are wasting my money.
Because I just, that's what I wanted to do.
When did your mind change, Millie?
Wait, you ain't.
Still, she's supposed to be a lawyer?
She still go back and be a lawyer?
She's still thinking about the report.
She still, listen.
She's still thinking about the report card.
Oh, what?
Um, were your high school friends aware of who your mom was?
Because also, I mean, again, epigenetics, you look just like her.
Yeah.
No, they weren't aware because they weren't allowed to listen.
After a couple of the report card episodes and the sneaking out of the house and climbing trees and shit, she decided you're going to boarding school.
Oh, wow.
Oh, okay.
Where was boarding school?
I didn't go to Teaneck High School.
I went to elementary and junior high school, as it was called.
And then when it came time for me to go to high school, she sent me to boarding school.
And that's why you're like, yeah, Mark.
It was in South Jersey.
Listen.
But it was also because, it was also because radio was all, like everything was played on the same station.
But yeah, that probably was my introduction to what is now called Yon Rock.
All right, so what is boarding school like?
It was awful.
It wasn't.
Like, not.
Not overseas in Switzerland.
No, no, no.
It was in, like, Marstown.
Okay.
Like Mendham, New Jersey right outside of Marstown, Jersey.
But any other black kids there?
There was, okay, there was 60 students in the entire school.
And the school went from seven to 12.
So there was some classes you'd have by yourself.
A lot of eyes on you, though.
Yeah, I hated it, though.
But so I, once again, another confession that she don't know about, I would.
This is great.
I would just mess up and do shit that I knew she didn't want me to do so she could take me out.
Sabotage.
Okay.
Okay.
She's bad.
Really bad.
Because I felt like she's paying all of this money for me to go to the school.
Then, you know, the uniform is supposed to be below the knee.
I would hem my pleat his skirt higher up in the middle of the thigh.
It was always kind of stuff.
It's in your system.
It's all kinds of stuff that I was doing.
But it didn't make a difference.
So they would call and I was always very good friends with it.
It was run by a convent.
Okay.
So the sisters.
The sisters were always, they love me though.
So when I wanted to be on the cheeriness squad,
she told me no extracurriculars,
you better get this damn school work done.
But the sisters was like, oh, I'm going to call your mother.
So when sister Barbara Jean would call Mommy to say,
always had two names.
Suzanne Elizabeth, Laura Catherine.
They all had to...
Oh, since the act was real. Okay.
Yeah, since the act was very real.
Then she would...
They would call her on my behalf
to say, you know, she's really great.
You know, we think that she'll be
a great cheerleading captain, you know,
and they got a taste to her.
She didn't give a damn if it was none.
She didn't care about all that year.
I'm all this goddamn money.
I'm spending a dollar to bring her out.
I was like, yeah!
So yeah, they didn't give it.
dating catch a
I feel like that's that's an
anime, Millie Jackson cussing out a nun
It's so good
Like, oh my God
Let's take that to adults
So but this even goes further
Because now
Your daughter is performing with you
Yes
Wow
So are you
Is, first of all
This is
Is she aware
Of a legacy
She knows
How old is she?
Always has been. She's 33 now
Okay
Wow
Black does not
crack right here. Yeah.
That's crazy.
Black doesn't crack.
Can y'all package it up? Sell it.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Say I
Trick Daddy's I'm a thug. Was that like
the introduction? Like, you know
that's grandma's song right there that he's sampling.
Da-da-da-da-da-da-da or whatever.
Like, is how do you introduce?
What was the entry point? Yeah.
For my daughter? Yes.
She's always known. Like, I've always
she's always been, I've always been very clear about who your grandmother is and who, you know, just the legacy is, has always been very, very important to me.
So she's always, she's always known that.
Okay.
Why didn't you want her to sing?
She was a sweetie pie.
She still is a sweetie guy.
She's a sweetie pie.
It skipped a generation.
Yeah, I was going to say grandchildren.
She's very much like my mother.
Oh, they probably best.
She don't do all the cussing and stuff like that, but she plays no games.
She's very, and then just the whole.
they're prissier.
They're more women.
Like, this shit is, I'm, you know,
tomboy, sneakers.
So I'll be closer to a B girl.
She wants to wear, she wants to be like that.
So she's...
Grandmother and granddaughter.
Wow.
A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care what you're saying.
Yep, that's me.
Cliver Taylor the 4th.
You might have seen the skits, the reactions,
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Rule one, never mess with a country girl.
You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.
And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either.
We always say that trust your girlfriends.
I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends...
Oh my God, this is the same man.
A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
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I thought, how could this happen to me?
The cops didn't seem to care.
So they take matters into their own hands.
I said, oh, hell no.
I vowed.
I will be his last.
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Trust me, babe.
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What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wodom.
My next guest, you know from Stepbrothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money
Players Network. It's Will Ferrell.
Woo, woo, woo, woo.
My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with him one day, and I was like,
And dad, I think I want to really give this a shot.
I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings.
I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent.
He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet.
Yeah.
He goes, but there's so much luck involved.
And he's like, just give it a shot.
He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.
If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.
It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat.
Just hang in there.
Yeah, it would not be.
Right, it wouldn't be that.
There's a lot of luck.
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Why'd you want to be a lawyer as opposed to being a single?
I was black.
And being a lawyer was a good job to have for a black person.
Yes, ma'am.
So I wanted her to be a good one and be able to give me advice on my career and stuff because she'd know what attorneys do.
And the attorneys that I knew, I knew more about the law than they did.
Right.
Yeah.
And she always said that.
Like, go to school and be a lawyer so you can take care of family, like, in terms of legal.
But between you and me, was that?
Was there ever a moment where you were at a show and she was singing and you went,
that's my baby?
All the time.
Okay.
Was there a first show where you went, okay?
No.
She had it on his mama and daddy.
Oh, Daddy was singing.
Yeah.
Sing as well.
Okay.
What about your parents?
Were they musically, did they sing, play at all?
My mother died when I was two.
Oh, man.
Sorry.
So there was just me, my father, and his other six wives.
Wow.
Before he passed, he died nine times.
I mean, before he passed, he married nine times.
The last time was like...
Because he didn't want to get rid of me.
A couple years before he passed.
He was determined that I was going to stay with him.
So he had to do what he had to do.
Have a woman in the house.
Have a woman in the house.
And most of them only last a couple of years.
But, uh...
Because it was competitive.
Like, you know.
So you were the daddy's girl.
Yes.
Wow.
But they wanted, they wanted, like, what's going on?
So it became...
Not only was our daddy's girl, I was the waitress.
And, you know, I served the liquor on Friday and Saturday because my daddy made cone liquor.
Yes, he did.
Yes, he did.
Yes, they did.
Yes, they did.
And the Mason, John, come on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There you go.
Yep.
All right, so as a fan of your work, there's a question I always wanted to ask.
And, you know, I don't know Marlina Shaw.
I don't know Linda Clifford.
The women who are strong-willed, the women of soul who are strong-willed on their albums,
how hard is it or how hard was it for men not to be intimidated by you if they're meeting you during your career?
And I'm talking about from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and on.
Like, how long is it before they're just like, forgive me, Steve.
Check please.
Well, actually, it didn't happen, you know.
So you would turn it off once you're offstage?
My husband was my bass player.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I was determined that we would not have an anniversary.
They were married six months
Yeah, I'm doing the math in my head right now.
Wow.
Six months.
Yeah, we got married.
We were together for two years, but when we got married, it was over because, you know, he went to, I got a phone call from spring.
And they were very upset.
And I couldn't figure out why they were so upset.
And they say because, you.
Your husband came and he gave us a list of things he wanted and did not want and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And we're just hoping that you'll stay with us.
And I said, excuse me, could you get off the phone?
And Roy Rifkin say, huh?
I says, why are you wasting my time with this?
She said, well, he came to see us.
I said, but I didn't come to see you.
and you won't see him again.
So why are you wasting my time?
It's your name on the country.
And that was the end of him.
It was the end of the marriage.
Wow.
I see.
Okay.
I gave him his part of the money that I had put into the bank account every week.
I would say it was his.
This is yours, you know.
Had that man on an allowance.
This is your money to throw away.
I don't care what you do with it.
God.
This is in the bank.
And when we broke up, he had $8,000 in the bank and I gave it to him.
I mean, parting gifts.
You're a real one.
Because I know women now, they're professionals that are playing alimony.
Yeah, it's true.
I gave him his $8,000.
Anybody approached you about this movie?
Or did I miss a movie that was made?
Because I know we've...
I started to write Millie.
Okay.
That's the title, Jess Millie.
That's all it needs to be.
And I'm 15.
What you mean?
That's all she's got.
Oh, that's the far.
She's got 15 years old.
Oh, wow.
Dang.
You're going to need some help with that.
I'm saying.
Well, I got some help.
And I got the person to come and we sat down and went through all of this like we're doing now.
And they came back with the whole script two weeks later.
And I.
I read about half of it before I told them to get the fuck out.
It wasn't good.
It wasn't bad.
It just wasn't me.
They decided that they was going to, this is more interesting and we're going to change it to this.
Oh, no, no Hollywood.
You don't need the Hollywood story that much.
You know, so I gave them thank you for the paper and goodbye.
Mm-hmm.
Wow.
Annast them.
Okay.
I'm talking to you, Kish.
You have roots here in Atlanta,
especially in Oregon.
Can you talk about your history
with the organized noise family
and how you got involved in that circle?
It's like session work, yeah.
I guess I first met you
when you were singing with Outcast
when we were touring,
and you've been with them for the longest.
Yeah.
So how to, like, can you just explain that
the circle and that legacy?
The peach and all them, right?
So the, so the way.
So the way that came about was I signed my deal with Epic.
We started off CBS Associated.
Yes.
Which turned into Epic bought by Sony.
That was a awful.
It was a terrible deal.
Awful.
I mean, I just signed.
What do you want me?
Over here to sign it?
Oh, what you?
This is you signed as a solo artist.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is me signed as a solo artist.
And so we were, it was just at an age where we were just knocking heads.
And at one point.
What year is this?
This was 80.
88 was your first record.
89 it came out.
Yeah, 88 is when we.
I recorded the entire hour in a week.
Really?
The second one was in 91?
91.
How did you get, were you fans of the tough crew?
Like, how did you get L.A. kid?
I don't know how that shit came down.
Because that was a very random.
I'm from Philly.
So he's a guy to us and I'm like, okay, that's weird.
Yeah.
So it was, I signed, I signed a deal that was a group.
in Atlanta called the Voltage Brothers.
And I was doing session work
for them. Like they called me
randomly and said, like, studio
in the house, in the closet with these
stocking panty holes on it. It was
like literally one of them. So.
About how old are you at this time?
This was, I had just
moved down from college, so this was
80, maybe
late 87.
Okay. They asked me to
can you come and demo
this? Yeah. They came
asked me to demo. This song
for them because they were trying to submit it to Diana Ross.
Oh, wow.
It was called Hot Little Love Affair.
So they submitted the song, but the label said, well, who's the girl singing it?
And so they decided, well, this is not going to be for Diana.
If the girl wants to deal, she's got a deal.
And then once they say, like, this is Millie Jackson's daughter.
They were like, oh, this is easy.
Yeah.
This is easy.
They didn't have to put Hella stuff into promotions and stuff like that.
It ain't nothing but a Hot Little Love Affair, which kind of went with the, oh, that's Millie's daughter.
kind of thing, right?
So that happened.
I signed the deal.
Everybody took everything from me.
And I was like, okay, so I asked Hank Caldwell,
was the head of the black music department there.
And I asked, can I just get out of this deal?
So I did the second album,
and they pushed the producers out the way.
Okay.
Because they were trash.
And then that's where all those other connections came.
And basically Vivian, Scott.
Slash 2.
Right.
She's the one.
She was my product manager, and she did all that stuff.
So half of it was done on East Coast, half was done on the West Coast.
You also work with Jay Swift before he produced.
I did.
Before he did that.
Yeah.
So we did that.
He let me off the, he let me, because Michael Jacks, first of all, that was the year
that Babyface's Whip Appeal, the first freshman album, solo album came out.
Michael Jackson was on the label.
I still wasn't getting no love, even though I didn't have these.
these producers. So it was like, I was like, can I please just go?
So I had to wait out the production, the publishing. I waited it out.
I was already in Atlanta and randomly, randomly got a call one day from L.A.
Reed from Charlis, who used to be his assistant saying, can you come?
And L.A. Reed would like you to do to come to the studio tonight to do a background
session. Now, I had never done background for anybody but myself on on those two records that
didn't do nothing.
They went paper.
You know what I'm saying?
Not gold, but paper.
Like, they didn't do nothing.
So,
um,
we went to the studio and he was like,
we got this new artist,
Tony Braxton.
Okay, well, what's the song?
Seven whole days.
So we, that was my first studio
session ever.
Really?
Ever.
Like background vocal session.
And so we did that.
Then that was good.
I kept getting calls from them.
Outcast wasn't signed yet.
Okay.
So I kind of vaguely knew about Outcast, but I still had a whole lot of North in me.
So I really wasn't really hip to it, not really even like welcoming it.
You know what I'm like?
I was like, ah, this shit, you know, that's kind of how I felt about Atlanta.
Yeah.
And Atlanta just felt slow.
It was just slower moving, everything.
You go to McDonald's and take, why is you taking so long?
On New York is on a timer.
Boom, boom.
You know what I'm saying?
You had one minute to get the food out.
So Joy, me and Joy had kind of.
I forgot how we met,
but I started singing with her.
One day, she called me and said,
I have to work on my record,
CAST, and I didn't know who she was talking about the time,
because I didn't know CAST was outcast.
She was like, Cass is going on the road.
This was at the end of AT aliens.
A.T. aliens. Equimini.
It was right in there.
And so she was like,
Cass is going on the road on a tour next week,
the promo tour,
Paris, can you go?
And I was like,
when? She was like, in six days.
So I was like, well, yeah, because for me, I needed work.
I didn't have no record deal and have nothing.
So I was like, yeah, but now I got to figure out.
I'm about saying, do you have a passport this time?
I had a passport.
Okay, you did have a passport.
But did not know song the first.
So she said, rehearsal, you got to go to rehearsals.
Rehears, I said, when?
She said, tonight.
God.
So I am trying.
my damnedest.
You know, I literally went to like turtles.
Oh, yeah, because you got to buy, yeah.
Because I got to find the records.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
It ain't no streaming.
It ain't no streaming.
I had to find the records.
So I went to turtles to find as much as I could on them just so I could be half-ass prepared for, for rehearsal that night, came in.
And that's when I met everyone.
Like, for the first time walked in the room, it was rehearsal.
It was go.
It was, you know.
And nobody's telling me shit because really they didn't, Joy did all the backgrounds.
Yeah.
Her and Peaches.
Trial by Fire.
Yeah.
Her and Peaches stacked all the background.
Peaches was there.
Right.
But I was still the new kid on the block.
So I was still like, nobody gave a shit.
And was this the same peaches?
This was Wild Peaches?
Wild Peaches.
Yes.
I remember.
And so I didn't know.
You know, I'm just, and I have a good ear.
So I just listened.
They play it through once the second time I'm in.
You know, so.
And we rehearsed for five days.
And then we went on the road.
Wow.
And it was the very first show was,
a hotel conference room at the Louvre Hotel in Paris.
And it was just a bunch of, it was that.
And I was like, we didn't did all of this for this.
Like, you know, you felt like there was 30 people in the room and nobody really clapped
and nobody really gave a shit.
And it was like, oh, this is whack.
And I didn't realize, because I didn't have that for my project.
So that was, you know, I was like, oh, I don't know if I want to work with Alcad.
But that was for BMG.
Yeah, I was about to say that room.
It was for distribution.
That was a court, yeah.
So, I mean, you know, I didn't know.
We got to show, oh, okay, show me what time, tell me what time to be at the airport.
So that was kind of it.
We went back home and came back a month later.
Pandemonia, yeah.
Like, just seeing white kids lined up in sneaking bags around the corner, like curving.
We were like, holy shit.
And we were all, big, Dre, everybody.
We were just looking out the window like.
Like, oh, shit.
Like, we just did not know.
It was Beatles-level pandemonium.
We just had no idea.
And so that's kind of when that really just kind of kicked off.
But I was on the live shows from then on, and Joy did all the studio stuff.
Okay.
So Sleepy came out with a project.
Sleepy's theme.
Sleepy's theme.
Yeah, the vinyl room.
Right.
The vinyl room, that was me.
And he was like, I just want you.
So I did most of the backgrounds.
You won't choke about Saturday night, right?
I'm on choked out.
Yes.
Me and Joy, actually, on Choked Out.
But you can tell, like, there's a difference.
And so that's what he wanted.
He wanted the contrast and voices and stuff like that.
So that's kind of when that started, you know.
Wow. Okay.
You know, but I never did, like, Goody.
You know, it was all family, but, like, I was just always kind of locked in to cast.
Were you on Society of Soul?
Are you on that album?
I wasn't on Society of Soul.
I actually went to audition for Society of Soul prior to the meeting.
And Deborah Killings called me and said, baby.
Baby, Deborah.
Honey.
Deborah Killens called and said, you know they're doing these auditions out of
but I think they got somebody.
And it was a girl named Ronnie.
So I was like, well, there ain't no sense of me going there.
She was like, I think you should still go.
I was like, no, I'm not going to be big and nobody.
And it was all of that.
So, you know, it was interesting, though, because I also did work with the brat.
Like, Mommy did an intro on Brats, one of Brat's albums.
And then the following album, she asked me to do hooks on this song called Get Somebody.
And I felt kind of, you know, I didn't really know, like, Dungeon Family.
So, still, Dave.
J.D., so-to-de.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I knew that, I mean, it wasn't any B, but people didn't really go from one, like, even Ludacris's camp.
Like, people didn't jump.
You stay in your lane?
You stay?
Yeah.
And so I didn't know how they would feel about that.
But for me, like, I'm not signing you.
I'm a gun for hire.
Exactly.
And I wasn't dungeon family anywhere.
And in my head, I was like, I was doing this shit fine.
You didn't even doing this shit.
That's how I was like, I do what I want to do.
You know what I mean?
But, you know, it ended up being fine, but it was definitely a thought, you know.
I see.
All right.
We do have to wrap up, but you got to please tell me how your yacht rock project started.
and what was the whole Genesis?
No, no, no.
Oh, I thought he was on the sign language.
No, no, no.
Wait, I thought I had some gum on my beard.
Nah.
No, though.
Fonte was in treats.
Nah, I was just listening to me like, no, I'm just listening.
Nah, we could.
You cameras out there.
Can you tell me about the Yacht Review Project?
So there was a guy named Graham Marsh.
We had done some studio stuff together,
and there was, he was doing some corporate stuff
for, like, home DVD.
And Home Depot had this contest that year where they were, their employees could audition to sing whatever, and they get to go to Vegas for like a week and do this talent show for their corporate annual meeting kind of a thing.
But it was the entertainment.
So Yacht Rock Review was the band that Graham had brought in.
And then he brought me in to sing background.
So after we did that one corporate gig in Vegas, it was like, oh, this is butter.
Like, how much is my check?
and I'm just singing like four-pound cover songs.
Like, it was amazing.
Yeah.
Are we doing the annual?
I was waiting for the annual.
I brought my daughter out.
We was hanging out, you know.
But anyway, Yacht Rock Review was the band.
I was a singer.
And after that first thing, they said, you know,
would you be interested in singing with us?
Because they just wanted to make the harmonies more full and everybody plays and da-da-da.
So that's kind of how that started.
And then after about a year, they were like, we want to bring in another singer.
Do you know anybody?
I was like, my daughter.
Right?
Keep it in a family.
You know.
And we're a good contrast because she's like,
it has a high, clean, mini-ripperton kind of thing going on.
And so that's what that's been doing.
But because of boarding school, I knew all the music anyway.
You know, hauling notes, doobie brothers.
I knew all of it anyway.
And then I found out soon after that they were the ones who actually trademarked
it, you know, like, so they were.
I don't know if they were the first people to actually do it,
but they were the one.
To own the toy and Yacht Rock?
Yacht Rock Review, uh-huh.
Wow.
Yeah, and so I've been working with them now for seven years.
Wow.
Yeah, and did an album, did one album, which I have,
a piece of vinyl for you.
Yes, I will take it.
And I was trying to give it to you at Fallon,
but my luggage got lost, and so I'm running around with Big the last time we did it.
Right, exactly.
And I'm running around New York.
trying to find all black because my bags never made it.
So the album never made it.
But it's here.
Thank you.
Yes.
Thank you.
Ladies, I have to say, you know, I'm still thinking about the whole climbing
and the tree and.
So is Mel.
You know.
Imagine my dad.
And she's still thinking about the report card.
Imagine my dad.
Oh, yeah, that was the report card.
Oh, my God.
Pulling the sheet back and seeing your mom.
Oh, my God.
I mean, I was traumatized.
That might have to be a movie.
Yeah.
That's the black version of Ferris Buell.
In my mind, she said it's me, bitch.
With the ending of house parties
No, for real.
In all seriousness,
you know, we, first of all, thank you guys
for doing our first episode in
almost three years in person.
P.S. Amir, when we said we was doing this,
y'all were the first people, Amir was like,
we got to call Keisha and get her and her mommy.
Yeah, absolutely.
Straight up.
Such, you know, immense fan of yours.
Yeah, this is one talented fucking family.
Yeah, with pH.
Fucking thank you.
Aw, fuck you guys.
Fuck you.
On behalf of Keisha and Millie and Fonciclo and Laia and Sugarsteeve.
Shout out to Cousin Jake and unpaid Bill somewhere on Sesame Street.
This is Questlove.
And we'll see you later.
No, no.
No.
Let's go.
I have to give you the name of my latest album.
You think I came up here for nothing to do all of this and just not get no.
I'm a promo of nothing here.
Come on.
I totally forgot.
Yes.
Let's face the bills.
What are you, what are we working on now?
Millie Jackson on the sole countryside.
Returning.
That's right.
She did a country.
Yes.
Wow.
And the guy she's going to cover with was a boyfriend and I didn't like him.
That was him.
That was him.
Hold on me.
That was the story.
That was so long ago I forgot.
Yes.
Okay.
I never knew that was him.
I know that record cover very well.
But being born, you know, right down the road.
the only thing you could get was country.
So I grew up with country music, except, well, after midnight,
if you put your hand on the radio and use it as an antenna,
you could pick up Nashville, which was the R&B side of Nashville.
Okay.
Yes.
But.
So no loominging for all?
No.
when I'm in my car
which
once or twice a week for
a half an hour
I'm listening to country music
don't touch her radio in the car
it's country I would never
I understand that
who was some of your favorite artists
well I put it to you like this
when I went to Carnegie Hall to see
Kenny Rogers he said
if he had known I was in the audience
he would not have
sang Sweet Music Man
right because she redid Sweet Music Man
and he presented her
with like a million dollar gold check, gold-plated check on a gift box.
Can you cash that?
Can you cash it?
Damn it.
Yes.
Yes.
Wow.
I was riding to the supermarket one day and I heard this song.
I'm going to drive like hell through your neighborhood.
Pull myself a rider up on your lawn.
Crank up a little Hank.
Sit on the hood and drink.
I'm about to get my pissed off on
I say, wait a minute
I could get my pissed off on
You're better getting your pissed off on
Right, I want to get my pissed off on
And I'm listening
I'm going to shine my headlights up into your window
Let that's see
Throw empty bill cans at both of your shadows
I didn't come here to start a fight
But I'm up for anything tonight
you've gone and broke the wrong heart baby
left me redneck crazy
I say kiss my ass
right when it got to that leer
I can't sing no redneck crazy
but I like getting my pissed off on
I went on to the store, came back home, went online
looking up again
called the band and said we go in the studio tomorrow
and I'm going to shine my headlights up into your window
I'm going to throw empty beer cans
at both of your shadows
I didn't come here to start a fight
but I'm up for anything tonight
you've gone and broke
the wrong heart base.
Baby
Left me black bitch crazy
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