The Questlove Show - QLS Classic: Monie Love

Episode Date: March 24, 2025

This Questlove Supreme Classic with the legendary Monie Love was taped in 2021. The "Ladies First" collaborator has used her platform to elevate women and spread the message. One of Hip-Hop's first widely recognized MCs from another continent, Monie continues her passion for rapping today — along with an active career as a media personality at TV and radio. Monie was in the middle of Team Supreme for this epic interview which is worthy of a listen-back.   Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Women's History Month, and we're celebrating here at QLS. We're going to look back at the classic episode from 2021 with Moni Love. Since her career started, Moni's been in the middle of everything. You see the pun there? Music, radio, activism, and more. Listen back. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Questlove Supreme. I'm your host, Questlove.

We have Team Supreme with us. Let's see. We have Sugar Steve. Hi, everybody. Right now, you're live on location. Where are you at, Steve? Yeah, I'm outside of Radio City Music Hall reporting live for Westlop's Supreme. All right.

Nice, nice. Our fan base is out there. That's awesome. Oh, we're on the street. Yeah, we're on the street. Yeah, exactly. Steve knows how it is. That's where his fans are on the street out there.

Living there. We have unpaid bill. Yes, sir. How's it going, boss? How's the, how's the wine bar? What are you drinking tonight? Little champagne, let's call it tonight. It's delicious.

Perpane. It's for the pain. It's propane. It's pro, it's delicious. Propane. This is your favorite part of the day when you get down to your... Yeah, I get to see my friends, have a drink, and, you know, talk about the shit. I see.

All right. Fonticillo, you cool down in, uh... Yeah, man. Giacalaki. I can't say it now I mean, it's right me to say North Carolina

I can't stop I can't stop I can't stop I don't see and North Carolina I'm chilling man I need some other I might need some other

I mean yes I believe you know your state very well but I need some other witness because I heard anybody

any nigga saying that shit is over 50 okay that's last house Charlton did say that like

there ain't no ain't no young niggas saying that shit we don't say that shit no come on row like

nah nah Is there a Philadelphia equivalent of there? Like Philadelphia, some shit? We ended in the word Illadaleigh. Yeah.

All right. Yeah. Yeah. But then it became Kiladolph in 2006. So we ended that. Laya. How are you? Margaret.

Oh, look at you. Yeah. Damn, Margaret. I forgot. I forgot too. We had Margaret in the house. Yeah, we did. Ladies and gentlemen, I will say that our

esteemed guest today is definitely hip-hop royalty and I'm not making that reference because she's UK-based. She came first to our attention as a member of

what I think is one of the most innovative collectives in music, not just hip-hop, but music. And I'm speaking, of course, of the native tongues.

She's one of the first generation international emcees. She's made her mark given memorable verses on singles for, a vast array of people, be it Whitney Houston, fine young cannibals, Prince, the Jungle Brothers, De La Sol, Rascas, Common.

At least we forget or not forget her classic performance on the anthem, Ladies' First, with Queen Latifah. And also at the top of the new millennium, she shifted her golden voice to radio, especially in my hometown of Philly. Remind me to ask you about that cheesy conversation by the way. I've never spoken about that. I've heard a lot about it.

I'm, you know, I'm Philadelphia. I always wanted to ask you that. Also, Atlanta, Georgia's as well, as well as her nationwide show on series FM Ladies First. Probably the biggest marvel here about our guest is her refusal and her inability to age. as a mother of four, I assume four fully grown kids and a grandmother. I swear to God,

our guests will remain about 28 years old until the year 19,084. Yes, amen. What can I say? Long time coming, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Moni Love Supreme. Yes.

All right. Look, I'm as a I'm learning lessons post-2020. Not to comment on people's physicality or their age or whatever, but this has to be spoken about. What is your secret to youth? I don't have a secret to youth. I mean,

I don't know why everybody always says that because trust me, my knees have got more crack than Harlem in the 80s. I fear you. Well, what lotion? you've been on at night though. Yeah, I'm like, this is that Chris Rock money lotion? Like, what is it?

I don't, you know, honestly, I drink a lot of water. That's for sure. I really do. I really do. And it sounds really corny, but I really do drink a lot of water. And aside from that, I'm still keeping up with the kids. Like, I've still got kids that I'm chasing around the house and so on and so forth, you know? How old is your youngest?

12. Oh, okay. Jeez. I see. Yeah. I mean, there's sometimes where, like, I can't tell the difference between you and Charlina and, you know, I can't. Like, you know, half the time I'll look at money and like that. I think that either your daughter must have taken your iPhone and posted a pick on IG or whatever.

But, yeah, more more power to you. I want whatever you're drinking. You have it, sir. Water. You have it. I want to live forever. So. Yes, water.

Right now, as you speak, what is the environment in Atlanta? Because to the rest of the United States, we're just, we're kind of side-eyeing the shit, and not the residents, but, you know, more or less. Them too. No, well, not even, what's her name? Kisha, not even Kisha. Oh, no, no, no, no. Kisha, cool, yeah.

Because I know where she stands, but right now, I'm just hearing, like, everything that Atlanta is Sodom and Gomor like basically. Honestly, no, honestly, I can understand why everybody else is looking at Atlanta like that. Because to a lot, in a lot of areas, like, things should be closed that are not closed. So I understand to why everybody else is looking at it like, yeah, what are you guys doing out there? Honestly, me speaking for myself, I'm going with the train of thought as we're not supposed to be doing a bunch of stuff. You know, I do A to B. I leave the house.

I go to the radio station. I do the radio station, the show. I come home. I might stop at the grocery store, pick up groceries for the kids and what have you. That's about it. You know, I just, I don't really do too much. I neither do my kids. You know, everybody's homeschooled, which is I share my laptop.

I share my desktop, which is why nothing in my house is sacred anymore. But they are. They're doing too much. They're doing too much. in general is there a kind of like is there a true awareness of at least for

you know I'm I know it's for everybody but even for black people like that there's a danger out there I understand that you know at least some of the the HOTEP cats that I know that are are you allowed to say that I mean we're a hotel

yeah yeah that's a real That starts, that starts, like, fights. I mean, you know, if the shoe fits. I'm just saying, like, there's, we just, we just live in the time in which, you know, I mean, where facts are optional and everyone's, everyone's opinion is sort of subjective to what they think, you know. Right, right, right, right.

And, I mean, it's bad enough with my family. Like, I, me trying to convince. certain family members that they should get the vaccine. And, you know, I understand the, the history that we've had with it and the trepidation and all that stuff. But, I mean, it's just exhausted enough arguing nine family members about this. I mean, I can't even imagine what it's just like in Atlanta where, I mean, I've seen clips of All Star Weekend where people were just like doing crazy.

I skipped. So you haven't had to host any parties or anything like that down there? Well, I did No, I did Actually, I did You know what I did? I went to Tampa And I did

The Super Bowl It was a driving concert And that was me And alumni It was me Special Ed Chabrock, Kwame

And Dana Day And we did that And that was a driving That was my first driving concert So that was, Yeah, that was interesting Do people respond By honking their horns?

Absolutely. Oh my God. So when Dan it starts doing nightmares, like people were like, it was amazing. That was my first experience with that, and it was absolutely that. Like when you say,

make some noise, it's like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. You're right,

next time you wrap the chub, tell him that I'm going to pay his $2,000 debt to Prince Paul. So I can just, uh, so I'm, Oh, my God. You've got to talk about that.

If Paul tells the story one more time, man, I'm like, all right, I'm going to just cover this debt so that Paul can move. No. Okay. So, of course, I know some areas of your life. But for our listeners, he don't know, what part of, were you born in the UK? What part of the UK? Yeah, absolutely. South London, Chelsea.

I was born in St. So, in Chelsea. And that is South London. Okay, South London. Can you talk about the environment of what South London was when you were growing up? Yeah. Okay. Being black and in England, you're either Caribbean descent or straight up Africa.

Like your parents come from Ghana or Nigeria or mostly Ghana and Nigeria or your parents come from any of the Caribbean. So it could be Trinidad, it could be Grenada, it could be Barbado, St. Lucia, Jamaica. My family is all from Jamaica. And that's what makes up the black population pretty much when I was growing up in England. Now it's a lot, people from everywhere, more places. But back then, that's what it was. And the reason why it was that is because I think like in the 50s, England reached out to its Commonwealth countries to bring in manpower.

to help to rebuild the country after the last series of wars. And so they reached out to their Commonwealth, the British Commonwealth, which is all the countries that they owned. Exactly. Thank you. Yeah. Pretty much. Just keep it banned.

Yeah, let's just do that, shall we? Yeah, we need your needs to come build this shit back up. Basically. Y'all's so polite. They're so polite about it. I love it. And so my grandfather was amongst them. And so what happened was families, the heads of families went over to England and then bit by bit they send for their wives and they send for their children and so on and so forth.

But by that time, my grandfather had already had, my grandparents had already had five kids that were older and left. My mother was of the last five. She was the younger five. So she had to get shipped off to her parents in England, which, earthwrecking for her, she told me, because she didn't even know what a coat was. And so she got to England Right, right, right. Yeah, she got to England and was like, what is this?

It's cold, you know? So yeah, and then that's pretty much how a lot of our parents, people in my age bracket, how a lot of our parents got England. So hence, we were born in England. My generation and my family born outside of Jamaica. Okay, so I don't know. when this will air exactly, but we're sort of speaking right now, right when UK's on the, the sort of the forefront of the news with how the, the, the, the monarchy and its relationship

with the African American community. Um, yeah, I, I know, with the African American community? I'm sorry, not, I'm so used to saying that, uh, the black community of the UK. Okay. Oh, man, I just did a Patrice O'Neill thing. You know, when Patrice jokes that when he goes the European countries still calls them foreigners. Right. Yeah, that's actually really funny.

Yeah, that's actually quite funny. Is that even the term that you say, Mo? Like, no, I did not, no, no, that's what I'm saying. I did not hear the term African-American until I came to this country. No, but what do you call? So do they, do you say the blacks of the UK? Like, is that something that you say as a black person? We just, we just say black people, a black person.

Black people. Like, we've like, we've got to say, British, right, right, right, right, right, right. No, not really, no. But what I'm not really. But the thing is, you know, I was watching the news today. And they had, you know, a bunch of news pundits on talking about, well, mainly Markle versus old boy from the years. Pierce.

Pierce. And, you know, when he was speaking of his disgust of certain figures in the media and especially with the prime minister there, I mean, I noticed that he was using talking points that I thought. were just exclusively for African Americans in the United States. Like I thought just, I thought basically like post-slavery stereotypes of black people. Like he was saying that the prime minister was on the record once saying that, you know, like every black person here in London has watermelon smiles and was used in terms like

Pican Indian things that I thought were exclusively just for like, based in down South American terms that I've never. heard used in Europe before, which I mean, I foolishly I mean, of course I know that racism is worldwide. So is nigger. Right, but

that's the thing. No, I never heard that until I came to this country. Right, but I'm saying that's the thing. I haven't heard the terms used for us in the United States over there. So I wanted to know like what was our version of your version of

our version of the N word was W-W-W-O-G-W-G-W-G. You're a W-W-G. Yeah. So if a white person calls you a Wog, then it's time to start throwing hands. If a white person calls you a W-W-G, they're going to be tonsiless. Wow. But do other black people call themselves Wags? No. So then they're, okay. So there's not a term. It's not a term. It's not a term. No. There's not a W-W-A. And the word W-W-W-W-G comes from the end of Gully-W-W-W-W.

And a gullywog, if you look that up, was one of those like blackface dolls. It's like a rag doll. Okay. So it's made out of material. Okay. And it's blackface with wool hair. Right. And it looks like actually kind of like it's dressed like how Al Jolson used to dress.

Yeah. So it's a rag doll. It's a rag doll that's dressed like Al Jolson. It's blackface. with wool coat and that's a gollywog. Wait, now I'm curious if that even has a relationship to the word polywaw. Polywaw, I was thinking that too. I've heard that used in many punk rock song title or something like that.

What's in me? That I don't. Polywag is like a little like toad or something, right? It's like a kind of frog. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I think that is. That is. But gollywog was a doll.

That ain't that. Yeah. Yeah, all right, now I ain't never. All right, got it. All right, locked it. Yeah. But growing up, what, you know, for some American- Yeah, probably there's a tadpole.

Okay, tadpole. But growing up and over there, how long were you over there before you came to the United States? I left England for good when I was 17 and changed. Okay. So up until that point, what was there racial tension at all? Absolutely. Absolutely. It's just like, it's just like, forgive the similarity, but it's like a cool, a cool, a different flavor, if you will. I feel you.

Because it's like, you know, whereas you may consider the, the Kool-Aid flavor over here of the F shit that was going on, you might consider that red, okay? Well, it, but it was orange, you know what I'm saying? but it was still part of a Kool-Aid Oh yeah There used to be this group of You couldn't like You would have fear I'd have an older brother

I would have fear for my brother To be out past a certain time Because I would be scared That he'd bump into a group Of National Front guys National guys were skinheads Yeah they were skinned Eds with high Dr. Martin boots

and then green flight jacket. They were the red suspenders and, yeah. Yeah, that stuff, right? And you get, you know, they, you black boy, a couple of black boys get caught wrong side of town. It's late or whatever. They'd get done in. They'd get done in beat to a pulp death, you know.

You see it. Okay, that was my next question. Whereas, you know, teenage me, my dad would probably have more fear that the police would do that to me, first and then second, you know, going in the wrong side. I mean, we never, Philadelphia really didn't get caught up in gang culture similar to if I were growing up in LA.

Because there was a lot of markings on the war saying national front rules and go back, go logs go home and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. It existed. And parents would be scared mainly for their sons because the sons would always be the ones that would be prone to be out. The daughters would be at home, you know. And they would be scared for their sons running into groups of National Front kids had kicked in.

And also the sad vans. And the sad vans are paddy wagons. And that's what we used to call them, sad vans. Are you, have you watched Small Axe yet? No. And you know something? I just got told about it. I just got told about it about and I was like I need to watch it.

I really do it. And then I saw some of the trailers for it and I'm like, oh my God, this is exactly, yeah, this is exactly how we came up over there, exactly how we came up. Yeah, Pete, the first two to me were, did you watch the rest of it, Fonte or? I watched, I just watched Lovers Rock. I haven't seen the other ones. Oh, you just seen the second one, the house party one? I got to watch the one with your boy.

Yeah, Love's Rock is a whole genre of me. music that we used to listen to. Absolutely. I see. Music, music wise, you know, I guess for us, even though he'd been paraded as hard as I expected him to, you know, Slick Rick was sort of our, I guess our introduction that hip hop is a worldwide thing and not just a local New York thing, but like what what was the environment as far as hip hop was concerned like how did it reach you

over there okay through videos through videos through um wild style videos um breaking videos

uh graffiti videos it came to us like that we didn't get just first run or like bootlegs we do well I think bootlegs tapes of like wild style and

arm and then that led onto actual real releases of like breaking and beat street but that's how it that's how it got to us when we got hip hop we didn't get it in its music form first we got it in its art form as far as the movement end of it first that's how so you didn't have a rapper's delight on radio what the hell is this um yeah we did but we that that song was ubiquitous it was it was kind of disco-y. We didn't, we didn't make the connection between hip-hop, the culture that came out of the rubble, you know, we didn't make that connection when we saw Rappers Delight on top of the Pops, which Top of the Pups is like a British version of American bandstand. So when we saw them on top of the Pups doing Sugar Hill Gang doing Rapids Delight, we didn't make the connection with the hip-hop culture

yet. We started assimilate in our own pseudo movement of hip hop in England once we started seeing going on in as far as tapes of wild style and as a matter of fact,

somebody that helped deliver us more so of the culture, more so than Sugar Hill Gang, for England at least, was Malcolm McLaren because he included them breaking in his video. Oh, for Buffalo Girls and And we saw that.

And that's another way that we started making the connection. And so we started, we developed crews. I was spinning on my back. I wasn't rhyming. So you started off dancing. You started off dancing before Ronnie. Yeah. What was his true role over there?

I mean, you're Malcolm's name mentioned, of course, with the sex pistols. And then, you know, it was early for a raise into electronic hip hop. 82, 83, but I mean, was he the Spengali Warhol figure over there? Like what? Absolutely. That's exactly his position. That is

exactly his position. Like, did he throw parties or, you know? No, no. I wouldn't say that. Or if he did, I certainly wasn't in that crowd and none of my peers were in that crowd. But what he did do and where we did make a direct connection with Malcolm

McLaren is that he ushered in the dance art form of hip hop culture. He ushered that. He helped usher that in to usher that in to us British kids for us to look at that and be like, how are they doing that? How are they doing that? I was going to say, do you remember what folks, what was before hip hop then? Like, what were young kids listening to?

The police. We were listening to the police. We were listening to Dexon's Midnight. Roxanne? We were listening. Yeah, we weren't doing anything. We didn't get hit by the hip-up cultural bug yet. You know, all we had was...

Police makes sense, though. They make, with the ska, the ska reggae. It was no, absolutely, because it was a very heavy, a lot of the British bands were heavily influenced by the Caribbean population in England. So, you know, there's this group called Bad Man. And they were like a scar band, too. What was their name? Bad manners.

Okay. And they were, yeah, they were a scar band too. Of course, we mentioned the police. Night Runners. The specials. The specials. That's another one heavily. There was two Jamaican guys in the group.

So you mean like what they, okay, explain this. What the hell is a Rudy? I hear the term Rudy mentioned. White shirt. white shirt, skinny black tie, black jacket, like a pork pie hat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Drain pipes.

Drain pipes. So the cats that look like fish, boom. Are these white guys or black guys? Like, every time I hear a Rudy, is that like rude boy or something? Yes, it's the British version of what Jamaicans would call rude boy. I see. No, because, you know, when I hear Sky songs, they are always talking about Rudy. And I thought like kind of that Johnny,

what was Johnny Taylor's word? Like, oh, Jody. Jody. Jody. Yeah, okay. Right. I thought that Rudy was just like this fictional character or whatever that. They just fucked your woman while you was away.

No. Right. That's what I thought. No, no. A. Rudy is a British version of what Jamaicans call rude boy. Okay. Like if you look at early pictures of Bob. and Bunny and Peter Tush, right?

Look at early pictures before everybody got larks. They were rude boys. Oh, okay. Oh, well, since you brought it up, can you talk about your daddy? Yeah, my dad's, my dad was a rude boy. My dad's, and my dad is full-fledged raster right now. Yeah, yeah, my dad's full-fledged raster. I tell, he's been, you know, all my life.

his locks is now under his feet. Oh, with his cute, so. Oh, wow. Okay. Was he involved in music at all? Yeah, my dad played trumpet. Oh, okay. Yeah, my dad played trumpet when I was growing up.

So the house was very musical. Sundays was his days when he would practice. So he would put on a Louis Armstrong or Amar Davis and he would play along to it. And that would be his practice. and that would happen on Sundays. And once I hear the trumpet going, that means I have to get up and I have to clean the bathroom downstairs

and I have to clean my room. It was intuitive. You know, you know what's happening. Yeah, so, yeah, play trumpet. And he was in a jazz band in England when I was growing up. Were you, I'm not trying to stereotype. I don't know.

It's just a lot of, a lot of the black people that I met in the UK when they're talking about growing up in the 70s they would tell me that basically like a lot of their parents were super super conservative so

you know they didn't have experiences of like sneaking out the house at 13 to go to whatever a studio 54 was or that sort of thing like were you a club kid at all or was Cool Hurks version of hip hop your music

experience where, you know, there's playing on the streets or... No, I, we... Well, let's see. When I started breaking and stuff like that, we would go to Covent Garden during the day any afternoon and that's where. And I would make sure all my chores were done so that I could bounce and my parents wouldn't have anything to say. But be back at a certain time.

And I would go to Covent Garden, meet up with my friends. And we would just pop and break and just practice all day either. in Covent Garden Square or in the Charing Cross tube station because the floors were really smooth in the Charing Cross tube station. So we could get some really good windmills in and back spins and stuff down there. Oh, so you were a serious B girl?

Yeah. Oh, okay, okay. I didn't know your level was, I don't know if it was curiosity or like, this is some real shit I'm doing. No, yeah, no, we would battle. We would battle each other. It was all different cruises. Seriously.

developed fake beef with North Londoners just for no reason because you needed somebody to battle. Yeah. Wait, that would be my side of town. Okay, so did people like go to different territories or was it territorial? It was very, yeah, it was very territorial. It was very territorial. You know, we took it seriously and there were fights sometimes. Yeah, we took it seriously.

Like you would not be caught on in Kandem Market or any. Only if somebody came over and was performing and they were at a place called, what was the name of the electric ballroom in Camden Town. And sometimes there would be performances. Like I saw Chuck Brown and Soul Searchers at. Oh, wow. Yeah. I saw Chuck Brown and Soul Searchers in Camden Town at Electric Ballroom. Absolutely.

Wow. Yeah. I also saw Stetsasonic in that same venue. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hip-hop-wise, like, how big was the local talent?

Because, again, like, there was, I knew of Slick Rick. There's another dope rapper that was out, like, in 1987. I'm having a brain for it right now. From the UK? Not Derek D. MC2. Derek B. Not Derek B.

Cookie crew? Not cookie crew, but it was like, this guy. He always ended his verse with sharper than a heart attack. But he was rhyming over Bobby Birds. I'm coming. It's like, they played it a few times in like 88. Wait, wait.

Say how he ended. Wait, wait, say how we ended it again. Sheper than a heart attack. It's my wrong in cold effect. No, no, but I liked him because that sounds like the nigger from Snap, dude. But this is the thing I liked him

because Don't say this, don't say that Everybody's a critic Yo, and I still And I'm still not convinced that that guy is not being rings I'm sorry I'm still not convinced

I've never seen the snap nigger I ain't never seen him in the same place No, but the thing is is that with with most UK artist they lose their accent once they start singing and rapping. But he maintained that accent throughout. And that's why I liked him.

But I wish I knew his name. When I get off this podcast, I'm going to hear that over and over again. I'm sorry. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clever Taylor the 4th.

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And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. How did they look at that stuff, though, but only like Derek B and Cookie Crew, how were they received in the UK at that time? Well, they were received very well because they were our first generation of born and bred British art first wave. We pop up is from there too, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Cookie crew were my men. I was babysitting. I used to roll with them everywhere to all their shows, be it, their sound checks. I learned a lot from being around them. Really? I came up, yeah, I came up under Susie Q and Debbie D. I came up under them.

I love them, man. I remember buying a, they once played in a different world, on a different world, the first season. There's a clip of Dwayne and, uh, Denise, back when Lisa Bonae was on the show, doing the Wop to, what's their first single? Females get on up? Females, mm-hmm.

Yeah, and I remember, I don't know, like back then, if a song was on a sitcom, then you asked about it the next day, and then you got it. You made it. Yeah, yeah, you made, but like what, do you know what they're doing now or? Well, I know I,

Debbie D I mean Remedy Remedy is her name Remedy Remedy not Debity Debity D is another of my Another of my female emcees that I look up to Debbie D's her

Remedy is out of the cookie crew And I speak to her She's really well She works She actually heads her own marketing company In London now And she still works very much Within the music business

Specifically because she's has first-hand knowledge of being as herself. So she works, has her own market firm in the entertainment business in England. Okay. So how did you get the, how did you make the transition into becoming an MC and taking it serious enough to actually doing it? Right. When did it, pretty much when did it stop being a hobby or a secret? that only was shared between me in the bathroom mirror with a toothbrush.

Oh, wow. You was Issa for real. Yeah. So, yeah, like, who pulled you out of your shyness and said you should do this? You know what? It was a bit of envy. And the envy came from, I did a, wait, October, December, January, February. I did a five-month stint at George,

Gate High School in Brooklyn, New York. My mother was in transition of possibly moving to the United States. She had a job for a respected Jewish lawyer in Manhattan at his office, and he was going to sponsor my mother. She came over. She worked for his family, took care of his children or what have you. And in return, he was going to, you know, do her visa and a paper. That's how a lot of people did it back then. And she bought me with her. because I was the youngest one. We were living in Brooklyn on East 28th Street between Clarenceau.

And I went to Georgia Wingate High School and they had metal detected. Which is something I had never seen before. I was about saying, because you went from living from a place where the cops didn't have guns to a place where they did. I went from Catholic school.

Notre Dame, all girls, uniform with a crest on my blazer wearing. Okay. I went from that to lean on me for crying a child. Just the clock. Really? Some guys didn't have Kim right. Yeah, you know, so it was quite a culture shock for me. But I found out in the same high school as MC Light.

MC was already an aspiring MC, and I would have to listen to her talk about how she was at Latin Quarters. And so this is where the envy kicked in. Did someone say Latin quarter? Wait, I'm sorry. I just came back in the room. Did someone say Latin Quentin? Go ahead.

Put a pen in it. We're back. Okay. So that's where the envy came in. So when I left and went back to England after doing like six months going to school in Brooklyn and I went England. And then I was like, if only light news, I'm just as dope. I'm dope too.

I can rhyme. It was a secret. I never told anyone. Really? Yeah, it was a secret. I'm a word smith. English was my favorite language. Poetry was my favorite thing.

I love words, you know? And so it was something I had an act for. So I kept it a secret that I would write poems and write poetry and stuff. And so by the time I went back to England and then I would be like, I should have told her. I should have told like that I'm dope to and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. right? So through all of that, I started letting it out, you know, I started letting it out that I could do this once I got home to England. So I made a name for myself. So the next time I saw light, right? The next time I saw light, she came over to England to do a show and I went to that show, right? And I made sure that I got backstage, right? And then when I said, hi, she's like, oh my God, you're, you're back, you back here. And I was like, yeah. I said, guess what? I was like, I can ride too. Let me bust a verse for you.

How old are you at this point? How old are you? Like 16 and change. Oh, God. Okay. I hadn't turned 17 yet. Okay. Yeah.

Those are the best auditions. Right? Do you remember what you did? And she didn't see this coming at all? I don't remember the first. But I do remember her saying, why didn't you tell me you did this? All this time, we were in school together, and you could do this. never told me and I just like I don't know I just like I guess I wasn't ready yet or I was nervous

you know you were going telling stories about going to like as being in the same club in the same room as Eric Bia Rachim and all of them and I was like you know I just was like little old me secret or what have you but but we was we we were tight in high school and then we developed an even stronger bond afterwards when she saw me again in England and I bust my little rhyme for her or whatever. She was very encouraging. She was very encouraging. She's like, I wish you would have told me you did this. You know, maybe we could have, I was like, I couldn't have came to Latin quarters with you. I was like, my grandfather's Jamaican. He meets me from school with a goddamn Great Dane. Like nobody, you know? Oh, wow. Like that. Yeah. I'd come out of the

school, right, and I'd be like this. Oh, my God. You see those movies where people, kids are at the doorway of their school and they're like, oh my God, that's my mom. Let me off a block before Ann. My grandfather would be across the street with a great dame. I'm like, oh my God. Wait, Simone, have you ever told that story before? No. I don't think a hip-hop story knows that.

No, no, no, no. It's like everyone knows that Buster and Jay-Z went to school together and everyone knows that tribe and Jungle Brothers went to school together. I think it's a big fucking deal that you, you and C. Light went to the same school. Yeah. Yeah. And that, you know, that you guys had this bond that apparently the world doesn't know about.

No. And it's funny that you say Jay-Z, because during that time, after I had gotten back to England, I met Jay-Z in England still during my 16th, turning 17th year. The Hawaiian Sophie period. Exactly. He was there. Oh, my God, you should have seen his fucking apartment. That's why when people try to, there was a period of time when people would be like, oh, what people about in their rhymes ain't real. from how their lively was and then they would try to pin j z in that pigeonhole like oh he's talking about shit that he didn't really live i would be the first person to be like yes he bloody did yes he bloody did saw his apartment i live in england i was born in england and i've never seen an apartment that flipping we call him flats i never seen a flat that big christ it was huge it was

this like i always compare it to this movie that i saw with harrison fordon regarding Henry where he went to the store. I know that movie too. Okay. Do you remember the bloody apartment? It was an apartment. It was massive. That is what Jay-Z had in England. Him and Jazzo.

And I'm walking around and he flat like, how the fuck do you guys have this? Yeah. And I live in this country and I'm in a stupid upstairs downstairs duplex and bathe me like what he listen they had the lavish life in England and he was there they were there for like maybe four or five months oh wow and young guys like around this y'all around same age right yeah we're around the same age he's only like probably a year older than me or something and so wow and that yeah and that was when

i met him and then and then from there it was like it was like big brother everywhere I go. When I came back to this and I would go places wherever it would be, I don't know why. He's like, what is that thing where somebody pops up out of a garbage can everywhere you go? Oh, I know. It's stalking. Exactly what it is. But he would just be everywhere. Like, how did you get here? and wait how you getting home all right i've been places when i first came back to america i've been places right where he'll in the same accurate that he talks about in his music that he had

from back in the day right when he was pushing acuras and all of that that's why i tell people yes he did yes he bloody did right no he did he'll pop up and be like how you getting home and i'll be like okay my friends i'm chilling no get in the car and take me yes and i'll be like i'm grown You know, I was 17 and changed them. He would take me right home. And that, that, yes, guardian home. That's so many times to the point where I used to get like, bloody hell, like what do I have, like a tracking device?

Like, how are you always, how is it always dear? I think it's so fascinating that y'all are like the same age. People don't even think about numbers like that. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And both of them are regressing in age. That's the, yeah, that's true. That's true.

It's a lotion. They're not sharing it with us, but that's cool. Yeah, no, I'm going to find that lotion. God damn. It puts the lotion on its skin. I ain't. Boom. So I think the first time I heard you on record was there was a remix for fine young cannibals. She drives me crazy.

I didn't know it was you at the time. How did you not know that was me, Amir? Well, because no, no, no, no. I didn't know what a moni love was at the time when I heard it. Wait, what a moni? It's like a new species. Right. No, no, no.

I knew of your name. Like, I guess the first time I heard you was doing our own thing. I think on Jungle Brothers. But I believe she drives me crazy remix, kind of predated that a little bit. Yeah. But I remember, like, you had. a very definitive, like a very

sexy voice. You had your accent. Oh, not sexy though. Yeah, you know. I know. I'm knowing you for decades in a moment, so sorry to... No, no, no, but I just that's interesting because I definitely wasn't trying to be that. No, but it's, I mean, it's something.

I mean, obviously, it had to been something because, you know, Prince reached out to you too. It was something very distinctive that didn't sound like any... Well, I mean, first of all, I'm not saying that as far and few between with women and hip-hop. Right.

But, I mean, it's been slow to come to fruition. And again, I'm not saying that there's been a lack of female emcees. But there's definitely been kind of... The faucet has been slow for the powers that be. Mm-hmm. that will let him have a platform. But how did you, but I remember that really making an impression on me.

Like, got it. I like the, I like the song. Like, I would spend that version in the club, that remix, instead of the regular version. How did you, like, was that your, your first time on wax at that point? No, no, no, no, no. I had already had, um, my own singles. Listen, the first single that was ever put together,

I was in a group and we were called Don't laugh, okay? I was in a group and we were called Just Bad Productions, you know, because like Boogie Damn Productions. Like, oh, wow, y'all was J.B.P. Okay. It's a little bit of a stretch, but I see where you was going from. I'm with you. So we were, it was four of us.

I was the only girl. It was me, DJ Pogo, MC M.C. DJ Pogo, MC Mello, and Spocky. Spocky was the beat guy. He programmed all our beats. Mello was another MC and DJ Pogo. They were three really, like, known DJs from the UK. So you're saying that being in JPP?

Wait, J.B. J.B. J. B. Just bad production. JbP. We have bad productions. All right. So what?

Oh my gosh. What? We put a record out. We put a record out and it was under Tim Westwood's label. Oh, wow. Wow. Fresh start of the week. How old were you?

How old were you in that time? Oh, 15. Just 13. Okay. What that contract looks like this. Nick. I've heard so many stories. I've heard so many stories about Tim Westwood.

What does he represent to hip hop culture for the UK? I've heard the best things about him. No, no, no. And I heard the worst things about him. The first person I heard to get shot, I was there the night that he got shot in the ass spot. I used to live in London. You wasn't there, though.

You wasn't there. We were shocked. We were shocked. We were shocked. What was the name of that that jungler's crew? What? So solid. So solid.

So solid crew. So solid crew. So solid. Yeah, we had did a gig. All I remember, no, no, no, we didn't do a gig. Tribe had come over to the UK. This is right when Midnight Maraudas came out. Whatever happens, when we got home, we found out the next night that Westwood had gotten shot in the ass by one of the sole solid people or one of those jungler's crews. And it was at that point.

You know, up until that point, I thought he was like an untouchable luminary because, you know, he's on the intro of public enemies nation of millions. But it wasn't until, you know, when we got news of this happening, then I'd start hearing like some of the shadier things or whatever. But what was Tim Westwood's role in hip hop? And, you know, again, I always think that forever, whoever the person, whoever the person, poster boy is of the movement, there's always some unspoken hero that really did the work or whatnot. So I never know who to believe. Like, is he a hero? Is he a villain? Is he? Let me say, all right? Let me tell you how real it's going to get with me, right? Okay. Talking about Tim Westwood. I don't care for Tim Westwood. I have, I have no inhibitions

of saying that, knowing that he's going to see this, you know, I don't, I don't care for you. You notice, Tim. However, he was everything. to hip-hop and provided us a place and a space to be able to listen to the music of the be able to battle each other from all the different corners of London. He was the only person that got us a venue. The venue was about as big... Lean to the side? Yeah, it was about as big as that.

Okay, this room. Right? The venue was about as big as that with a Michael Jackson, Billy Jean, dance floor. right with the you know the light of the light of the right and it was only for two hours on a Saturday so it was a lunchtime jam so he didn't he didn't even

get a space a big space for a long time he started off tiny with a amount of time but he still a space and a place where we could come we could listen to hip-hop music and we could battle each other right and we could we could express ourselves within the culture he did that

And then from there, what he further did was got himself a small pocket of time on BBC radio. It wasn't BBC back then. It was the other one. I can't bloody remember. Capital. You got a radio show on Capitol Radio, where it was a very short show, but it was the only one that existed that played hip-hop music. He is the conduit.

He is the reason why there were groups that were able to come over and do shows, because without us being able to hear the music and without us being able to have somewhat of a scene in England, there's no reason for us to want to go out there to see any of your artists perform because we would not have been familiar with them if it wasn't for Tim Westwood. He was the conduit for hip-hop. He was one of the main conduits for hip-hop culture. And when I said to you in the beginning of me even talking about,

you know, this is how real I'm going to get with it, if you hear me give you an expression speaking about somebody where I say to you I don't really care for them too much but yet and still I follow that by telling you how important this was to the culture

as far as its progression in K you know what I'm telling you you know what I'm telling you is real. Oh yeah I mean I can see that like Shug Knight is a villain but I won't deny the power of death row

That was a really good example Nobody wants to get on this platform with me I'm good No no no Shug for real I mean the thing with Shug I mean why he bullshit He even said it like The things that he was doing back then

Like you know signing artists to like Okay we get a piece of your publishing Your shows your this You know at the time all the labels was like Ah Shug is ripping you all off that's bullshit But now they're all doing that shit Now they all shook in you. Yeah, they all are shugging your ass.

So he wasn't a criminal. He was just ahead of his time. Right. Exactly. True. Exactly. It wasn't like the comparison I was going for. I mean, we can go a little lower.

We can talk about the Questlo's Supreme. We can say, we can say Diddy if you want to. Or based on my Questloaf Supreme experience, Prince. Mm. Pregnant cause. Yeah. Well, we. longer than a pregnant.

Okay, how are prints, how give it to his life? Break it down. No, just on the perception of somebody doing great, but at the same time talking to like the revolution and seeing on an individual level and as a person, he may not have always been like the nicest and. Oh, yeah, he's a good. Exactly.

So I'm just saying that someone. Okay, all right, no, no, no. No, no, that's that's, that's, remember when you, when you said, there was some disparaging stories and some people kind of started coming out saying, oh, well, Tim Westwood did this and he did That. Fante, what did you just say?

What was the word? He was a dick. Okay. Okay. We'll see. So they got something in comp. There you go. He's a dick's.

There you go. He's a lot of dicks that's doing a lot of great things. We're learning. Welcome to 2021. But what can never be denied is that Tim really provided a place in the space. But he released a single with just bad predictions. And the contract looked like.

You know how fax paper used to come out with perforated parts at the side? That's what the contract looked like, right? And that's what the contract looked like. Next to a paper bag, yeah. Just like, did you have, like, did your parents? And I took it. I, well, I had to take it to my parents because I was too young myself. And I took it to my dad.

And my dad did like this. Oh, you don't want that noise. My dad just looked at it and went, and I didn't sign that. And then that was, you know, that was that. But yeah, so I got found by a legit label, which was Chrysalis. And I got signed to them, which essentially got, I think they got swallowed by EMI later on. Yeah.

But back then, they were predominantly a rock label. But of course, everybody was going. around looking for the next best trend hip-hop was the next best trend i got found at a jam that i was participating in and offered a record deal there and their contract didn't come off with fax people with the perforated edges wait actually um speaking of westwood shows i found out um caro lewis is still my agent 25 years later and she told me she told me something really uh hilarious last year, which was I didn't know about, so there's like a slew of second generation hip hoppers like Raq Kim, like Kane, Kane not so much anymore, and Karras I

that have a fear of flying. Yes. And have never gotten on a plane to the UK. I know Chris didn't. When Chris was going to come over to do shows, it would be like a month before he gets there. Right. So,

yeah, Cara Lewis told me that in May, if she would book gigs for either Eric B and Raq Kim or BDP, and at the time, Kane, they would have to get on the Queen Mary for two weeks. Yeah. It takes two weeks to get from New York.

Yeah, about that. Oh damn See I was about to do an inappropriate Chris Rocka Middle passage joke Yeah Yeah I can't believe

Yeah Yeah Yeah It was hard for rappers So to get over there So like how How often At what point was

Seeing American artists In the UK A normal thing And not just a novelty Oh no It became a normal thing It progressed quickly. God bless him.

I don't know if you ever had an opportunity to meet this guy, but Dave FunkenKline, Dave Klein. Yeah, Dave Funkin Klein. Dave Funken Kline, he was the main ambassador. Shows would be booked and he would bring it over. He was the main ambassador, U.S. ambassador. He bore over,

I met my first American boyfriend through Dave Funken Kline. He bore over Latifah, True Mathematics, Chil Rob G, and the Jogh others for strig of shows in Camden Town. Oh, man. I'm assuming you said the Jungle Brothers.

I went to the show. I met the Jungle Brothers at Dingwalls, which was a club in Camden Town. They were over by Dave Funkin'Kline. And one of the Jungle Brothers and I started Dayton and that was Africa from the Jungle Brothers. That was my fault. Okay.

All right. So I'm going to do it. my first conflict of interest comment right now. Okay. Okay. This is my first conflict of interest comment. Conflict of interest comment. Well, no, because Gracie told me something.

Now, here's the thing. I forgot. The Jungle Brothers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So the Jungle Brothers, like, you know, was like everything to me and Tarreek. The second we saw them, Tariq was like, yo, everything. We go on it to Banana Republic.

We dressed it in all khakis and da-da-da-da-da, walking around with sticks and staffs and all that stuff. So we were like, even before the Daisy Age and all that shit, like we were Jungle Brothers heads first. So I was explaining to her that, you know, everything about Africa was so cool to us, like his ad lips and everything. And in our minds, we thought that he was just like,

he just sounded like a really cool 40-year-old. and Gracie was like he was the out he was like a mama's boy like he had to like get she's going to kill me for saying this that you know that like in my mind I'm thinking like when Africa talks like he has a pipe or you know smoking tobacco and like doing old grandpop shit and I she was like no like he had to get permission from his mom to come out and stay out late and all these things and I just in my that just totally ruined my person. because I can't imagine this cool-ass sounding dude, like asking his mom permission to hang out on the weekends or whatever. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's real. So basically, they're your plug into what would become the connection. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because what happened was, personally, Africa and I started dating. And then professionally, Africa was

responsible for recording half of my album. Oh, wow. Yeah, and then that is how I met where after deliberates his beats from and has, you know, brainstorming sessions with where he gets his beats from. So that met juju from the beat nuts. From the beat nuts, yeah. So that's how I met juju. And then obviously that's how I met Q-Tip also.

and pass and does that's how all of that transpired. Okay, because I often hear that, you know, the beat nuts are official or unofficial native tongues, but I know they did production on your record. So basically... Absolutely. Was that the first time they did production?

No. They are, they were, beatnuts were like the source, the creative beat source for Africa. and Q-tip. And this was all early, early. So they would have ill records. You should use this. You should use this, but not necessarily credit it.

But I get it now. Okay. Let's see. We got to do a few notes episode, by the way. You do. You're right in saying, oh, my God. Yeah, you do have to do a beating up because, oh, my God, I cried my eyes out one time when Juju came and he didn't have my address.

So when you get there and they ask you, what are you here for business of a business? And he was here. He said pleasure. And they're like, where are you staying? He's like, I don't know because he didn't have my address. Oh, my God. And they searched him.

Oh, my God. And he called me and I was crying. Oh, my God. It was horrible. Did they send him home? No. Luckily, they didn't send him home. But he had to, they strip searched him.

Oh, my God. It was horrible. I was going to say that London, I've never. Canada might be slightly ahead. How about I say, yeah, Canada. Canada, yeah. Canada's laxed up. I don't know if Canada is laxed up or is just the fact that people my age now are the authority figures. Right. So whoever's 30 and 40 and 50 are now like, hey, Questlove, are you guys doing a show here? Which like wasn't happening back then. In the first 10 years of my career. No, that was awful. I'm not going to give you the whole thing. Please, when you speak to Juju, just ask him. And to this day, I think maybe four days, four days ago, I apologize to him again for the 50 millionth time.

on Instagram on one of my feeds and some comments. I was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Anal anal probe and rappers in the UK. Oh, my, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, that's what you mean? Most wrapped about it.

Most wrapped about it on his record. The shit happened to me. I know at least five others. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no doubt. No doubt. I was so upset.

Talk to Juju about that when you talk to him. But yeah. That's sad. Everybody deserves 24 hours of preparation before. Oh, my God. Preparation is the wrong. One word to use during this part of the conversation. Oh, my God.

A classic Richard Nichols moment. Rich told us the way that we remedy that. Seriously, when we would go to UK, Rich would just be like, don't wash your nuts or your ass for three days straight and they'll skip it. And sure enough. Wow. No, I'm dead serious. Like, we would go on a Friday.

I might not shower, you know, we're the same. underwear or whatever. I'm serious. Like they would, they would be, it was that. It was an interest and sacrifice. Oh my God.

This is a fascinating episode of Questlo's three. I'm dead serious, yo. It's like, the shit that I'm learning tonight, it's like, as, as races as they are,

they do not want to touch your black, salty nuts. Oh. They don't want to search that bad. Hey, I never heard of a better sound bite by life than what I just heard

in my ears. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. This is bad. All right. So my iPhone is right next to me. Oh, you- Literally Siri.

Did it Google salty nuts? As racist as they are, they don't want to touch your black salty nuts. Oh, my God. And I'm turning the phone off. T-shirts. Yeah, I'm turning my phone off. All right. So I-

Why am I thinking about South Park right now? Never mind. Go ahead. Chocolate salty balls. Yeah, the salt-ball. A second. You know that song was number one in the UK? Oh my God.

That was Isaac Hayes. Because when he passed away, when he passed away in, and I think it was either his New York Times obituary, whatever, like, they were like, and Hayes was enjoying a comeback of sorts. His hit, Sheple of Salty Pals was a top 10 was the top 10 in the UK. I was like, ah, man, I don't think he wants that as his legacy. Right. Yeah, it was just a little crazy. A win is a win. A win is a win.

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I mean, at its high. What was the environment like between 1987 to 89? It was a commune filled with creative waterfalls. That's a lot of sex. A commune in waterfalls. You got to put the... We love a good metaphor.

But I said creative... But I said creative waterfalls. You did, you did, but I was just reading. Between the lines. I wasn't going on me. No, but like. I mean, I mean, there was, there were interrelationships. Yes, okay.

There were definitely those. But it was just like, it was like, it was like my kids, my youngest son, she has me watching mixedish with her. Every time they click back to the old scenes of when they were on the commune or what have you. Right, right, the hippie commune. Okay, it was like that. It was like that. So it wasn't fake.

It's like the romanticizing that you envision, it was real. It was a real thing. It really was real. I'm glad I asked you because, you know, Dave and Paz will like roll their eyes like, here he comes again with more. So guys, what was it like when you guys discovered the, this breakbeat, whatever, so. Well, because, well, they're just so.

But Dave Apass, first of all, because when we were in it, Dave Apass was rolling the rise. Wow. You know what I mean? When we were in it, Dave Aposs was rolling the rise because that's just, that's just who they are. You know what I'm saying? The beats here, right? And Dave Apasa like. Doing the opposite.

You know, and that's just who they are. That's just, that's just who they are. You know what I'm saying? It was just so freaking like. Nothing was a problem. Like, if everything was just so cool, I remember one night, Macy was one of the last people to leave their life. Because first of all, when I say commune, I really mean commune.

And the place of the commune's existence, main office, was Calliope Studios in Manhattan. Ah, okay. Everybody's sessions was in Calliope's. It doesn't matter if it was cute. If it was tribe, if it was Deila, if it was Jungle, if it was me, if it was Latifahifa, it didn't, you know, If it was black sheep, dress and long, it doesn't matter.

It was always Calliope Studios. We were always in Calliope Studios. Calliope Studios was the everything. It doesn't matter whose session it was. We were always there. And it was always egg flu young. Why? I don't know.

Chinese delivery is very convenient and it's 24 hours. Oh, it was all, no, like, it was never, it was always, needs food. All right. So obviously you guys are post Latin quarter or at least what you represent. And here's the thing, like everyone that's been on the, the reason why they were joking at the top of the show. I want to know what the Latin quarter joke is.

That's the thing. Again, I'm a guy that romanticizes and fetishizes everything, the, the lure of whatever. So, you know, I've heard many stories about the Latin quarter. So, you know, half our guests that have been on the show are, you know, Latin quarter luminaries. And so it almost became like the inside joke, like how long until Amir asked. You ever? Yes, the Latin quarter.

Okay, okay. But the thing I also didn't understand was that, like, why would somebody really want to risk their lives? The way that I see it, like, you go to the Latin quarter and you're either going to have the time of your life and hear something really mind-blind. flowing. Or, you know, you might get your change snatch or you might get stab, shot, killed, or hurt. And to me, that wasn't risky enough just to hear, you know, LL's booming system for the first time played by Red Alert or whatever. Yeah, but maybe, maybe, maybe it's because

your generation while you feel that way, because yeah, that was real. And that was it. And that was a risk that we were prepared to take. Right. That was the only place you could get it. Exactly. So what was by the time you came to the United States? And please explain that, missing that plane back to London reference. Well, okay, missing a plane back to London reference. First of all, everybody was in the studio still. I left. I was supposed to go back to England for a few days.

And the specific occasion I was supposed to go back to London for is Stevie Wonder's birthday party at Wembley Arena. Boy George, not boy George. George Michael and I were supposed to sing happy birthday to him. I missed the plane. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Well, assuming that was 1990.

I missed, yeah, it was. I missed the plane. Whoa. Wait a minute. Wait, you were, damn, for real? Yeah. And so I got back in a cab and I went back to Calliope and I went back to session. And they were doing doing doing thing.

And Africa and I remember. was like, all right, you got, you got eight, go do it. And that's exactly what I did. Wow. I never knew that reference. Okay. Yeah, but I felt like, felt like shit. Like, I didn't, it was an achievement to go in and kick some rhymes, but those rhymes were real rhymes.

Because I really, I was like, I'm going to get in some people. Oh, my God. Like, because I really did just miss the plane. And I'm supposed to be at Wembley Arena in London for Stevie Wonder's happy birthday. celebration. I mean, do you still regret it? I do regret it because I was, I don't like not being where I'm supposed to be. And it was like giants I was supposed to be on stage.

Yeah, but you got to, you have, you have an immortalized verse. So I do have an immortalized verse. But it, for me, it serves the purpose of reminding me that I fucked up. I understand. I understand me going to roll. Wow. Damn. Well, you know.

Yeah, because it wasn't a real reason. It wasn't a real reason for me to be late. It was some vain shit. I left this particular top that I wanted to wear and I made the bloody driver go back to the house so I could get it. Oh, that's not. You pulled the sabotage mood. The good fellas. Pull the good fellas.

I don't fly without my hat. I don't fly without my hat. I don't fly without my hat. Right. I can't really. Your lucky draws. You're, okay. So, what was.

So, what was. was the, now the one thing I don't know is post Latin quarter, what was now the nightlife 89, 90, 91? Like, what's, where do you, what's your weekly schedule in terms of like, we hang at this club at this night and this club at this night and the world on Little 13th Street in the meat market section of Manhattan on the west side? Little 30th Street. Yeah, the world. world was a club that Paradise run the door to. Paradise ran the door to. Paradise ran everything. Okay. Yeah, really. And it had five floors. And on the roof, it was a floor, but it was open, obviously, because it was a roof. And they used to do barbecue up there. So there's the house floor. There's the hip-hop, the reggae floor. There's a cool-out floor. And then there's the barbecue on the roof. Oh. Okay. Wait. I do have a question.

Again, your speaking voice and your rhyming voice are night and day, like at that period in your teens, were you code switching a little bit in terms of? Unintentionally, yes. And the reason, here's where the code switching happened. It didn't happen because of music. It happened because I was going to school at George Wingate High School in Brooklyn, which was metal detectors and Brooklyn's version of. of Joe Clark and it was just, I didn't want the attention that I was getting. I had a Tony

Braxton haircut before Tony Braxton. When I was going to school in Brooklyn, it was like 86, right? Yeah. And I cut all my hair off. It was super, super short, but it wasn't just cut. It was cut into 80 style. For for 16, 15, 16 year old girl to have her hair all cut off in a sleek style like that, done yet. Brooklyn, I'm from England, I've got this crazy haircut, my style of dress is different, and I'm getting viewed

and called exotic. I don't like that term. So when people will walk up to you, like, just say something. Exactly. So how did you, what is your, what is your Americanized New York? I studied how everybody spoke.

I studied how everybody spoke. So how did you speak? You switch it right now? She goes in and out anyway. I do. I do go in and out anyway. We say, like, to have me say something or say something to me that's going to demand an answer and then I'll still do it.

What you want to your chop cheese? What did you have a breakfast today? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait a minute. Wait, wait. First of all, okay, wait.

First of all, I don't even understand what you're saying. What you want with your chopped cheese? I don't eat no chopped cheese. That's some Philly shit. No, it's not. That's New York. I don't even know. You do it.

That was pretty good. A chopped cheese is a New York Philly cheese steak. It is? Never heard of that shit. Me neither. Cameron made it famous. You know, it's basically taking

hamburger. It's making a hamburger, but then chopping up the hamburger and putting it on a hero roll. That must be specifically some Harlem shit. It's, Chop cheese got its fame.

97-98. Yeah. There's a spot on 100th Street. It's at one point it was getting out of hand because like a lot of tourists were coming up there like risking their lives in front of the projects to get the authentic, yes, the authentic chop cheese. It's a cheeseburger hoagie.

A cheeseburger hoagie. I mean you're dismissing it making it sound like that. But it's okay. But first we never said, we never said here I am and this is it And this is what it sounds like. And I used to go on Empire and get either a blimpy sandwich or the Wendy. The Wendy's on Empire. What is this fucking person?

No, I'm in love with this person. Oh, God. Do you ever yell your kids with that voice? Because that's like some next level shit. No, when she yells at her kids and then she sounds like Nanny McPhee. Yeah. Angry McPhee. Yeah, angry McPhee is right.

It's straight Brit. I can't even, when I'm talking to them and it gets there. But yeah, that's what, that's the switching and that's the studying that I did. I studied how everybody else spoke. They thought, you want to come to get something to eat? You're going to eat the school lunch? Nah, I don't want the school lunch. I'll come with you.

Where are we going? We go to White Castle? Oh, all right. I'll come with you. All right. Moni, you know this question is coming. All right. You know it's coming.

Okay, Laia is a part of this too. I'm gonna just, I'm gonna just go ahead on one. Oh, no. No, no. No, we didn't even talk about Jeezy. Oh, okay. Nah, okay. Well, wait, I actually have to build up to it.

Because we're still with native tongues. All right. Fuck it. I'm going right to it. No buildup. Yeah, no build up. Subtle. Let's see.

We'll see. Hold on, Bill. Stay tuned. I'm ready. Can you, well, I don't want you to tell the Big Daddy King's story. Okay. However, I would like you to tell me what hip-hop touring was like during that time period. And the reason why I really want to know is because I didn't realize that my group sort of set a precedent that I didn't realize wasn't the norm.

Now, you know, you talked about Jay-Z's penchant for the finer things or whatever, but. Tariq is very much the same way. Mm-hmm. And, you know, in his clothes and whatever. So I thought it was just, we thought, or at least I thought it was some normal shit to be staying at a four-season's hotel and these deluxe tour buses and all this shit. But I didn't realize that was basically Tariq demanding the rich like, yo, I want to travel and comfort if I got to be on the road 300 days after a year. Wow. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. minute. Right. So by the time

I met you guys, that's what the fuck you guys were doing? Yeah. But wait, here's the deal. Here's the deal. It took care to tell me, no, Mir. See, the problem is you guys get hotels every night. Everyone gets their own suite every night. One to a room. You guys spend like, oh, she got stories. Thousands of dollars. I didn't realize that the way that bands really do it is that if there's a show that night, they all shower at the vans. venue, they sleep on the tour bus, and only on days off, they might get a day room at a holiday inn or Sheridan.

I mean, there was this a period where it was like, yo, man, what the fuck our money? Where's our money coming from? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, baby. Okay, there's, there's an area, there's an area in between what you're saying you guys were doing and what you just described, because I wasn't doing no showering and no day room shit with, no, I wasn't, no, no, no, no, no. No. I wasn't, I wasn't, there's, I am very much a British girl, okay?

And I was in that. With a crest on your pocket, with a crest on your pocket. Exactly. But what it was, it was, when I say middle of the road in between what you described, both things that you described is, yes, we did. We would ride the tour during the night. So we would be in our, as soon as we would pull up, not at a hotel. We would pull up firstly at the venue.

By the time we pull up to a. venue, the sound guys and stage guys, they'd all be in there. Shit would have already been put up. We get in there, we do sound check first. Then we get back in a bus and roll over to wherever the hotel is. Now, the hotels would be your modern day, what they've turned them into is all these nice, these nice holiday in, the type ones that have like the mini apartments in the kitchen. The business ones.

Yeah. Today, that's what they. are back then those very good times. Bathroom, very basic. Two beds, two beds, full beds or twin beds, bathroom, very basic, right? And, you know, now when I look at it, I'm like, ooh, I would not, but that back then, man, when you're, when you're drunk and you want to lay down. Oh my God. It's like, yes, please.

Yeah. So that's what it was. They weren't, they were probably like two star, three star, two star. So slightly above a super eight. Who would be on tour around these times? Okay. Best tour that I was ever on.

Mm-hmm. Give you an example of who would be on these types tours. And the interesting thing about the tours was they were also interchangeable depending on what territories you go to. Right. So, for instance, the tour was the Big Daddy Kane tour, right? Big Daddy Kane headlines, Digital Underground, Queen Latifah, and Third Base. Those are the base groups.

Big Daddy Kane, Digital Underground, Third Base, Queen Latifah. At that time, I was a part of Queen Latifah's camp because she, Lady First was a part, very much a part of her show. And so I was on that entire tour. So those are the base groups always, right? So that's the base of your sandwich, put it that way. But depending on what territories you go to, they would add this that would be EPMD. Or they would add some tomatoes, which would be... Too short or someone...

You know what I'm saying? So that's what I'm saying. It was like, and I'm using the sandwich analogy because it's like, depending on where you go, different. ingredients are added to the show. But still a hamburger. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So they were, and they were fun.

And it was interesting because I learned how to do the Humpty Hump while I was on that tour. And so was Mr. Chouwer around this time period? He taught me how to do the Humpy Hump. What was his job in Digital Underground during that period? He was a roadie and a dancer. Wow. Okay.

Yeah. And he figured that me and him were the same because he was a part of Digital Underground's crew and I was a part of Latifah's crew. So he kind of figured we were the same. I tried to assure him that I had a much more president position than he, because I was actually rhyming on a song per se. Oh, you and me are kind of the same, right?

Nah, right? Yeah, he was trying to do that. We know, we're the same. and I was trying to tell him no, one of these kids is doing his own thing. Like, you Sesame Street mofo. Go away.

So you hadn't heard him rhyme at all before? I did because he made sure to. He walked around with a book of, he never let that thing go. He never let that thing go. He walked around with that. He was pestering. I joined the tour, maybe two shows in,

because I went to Canada to see my mother first, because my mother lives in Toronto. So I went there first, and then I picked up the tour from Toronto. So while I was still at my mother's house, this guy makes Kika and Allison, who are Latifah's two dancers, get on their phone to call me up,

to ask me, when are you coming? You're supposed to, they're like, because you please get her already because this Tupac guy is getting on our nerves. He wants to meet you. He's really annoying. And so when are you coming? And I'm like, who is this weirdo that you guys are?

And I'm hearing him in the background. Like, when is she coming? And I'm like, don't put him on a phone with me. I don't know him. Like, who is this weirdo anyway? And they're like, he's part of digital underground. I'm like, okay, well, I always when I get there in two days time. But no, I don't want nobody I don't know.

But like bye. And so when I get there, he's all like a kid in a candy store to meet me. And what it was was I have never met a bigger fan of hip hop, period. than that man. Like, Tupac is the most enthusiastic, biggest fan of everything authentic

in this culture. So that's where all the excitement was coming from, you know, back then. But, you know, I'm the British girl. I'm a little bit reserved and I'm kind of like, okay, like, you're, sit down.

You're, this is too much. We ended up being really good friends. It's funny, because misconception on an interview that I did a while back where I said yeah, we slept together. And it's funny because it's like

the misconception was slept together being taken for more than in a sexual way. Exactly. Because yeah, we did sleep together because Allison and I, one of my seat fitzance and I, we shared a room and Park

shared a room with Shock G, but if Shock G, Had that... Right. Ah, right. Would she have more than Pop? Because who was Pac at the time? Exactly.

And if that happened, Pop would come into our room and he would sleep. Me and him would sleep in the same bed. And that's what that was when we were saying, you know, because we were like the three stooges. You know, the three of us were always together. And as a matter of fact, we even had a pact that in those hotels at the time, those two, three star joints, whatever,

they would have the buffet breakfast every morning. but it happens exactly at six o'clock. And we get on the soon after six o'clock to leave to go to the next town. If you weren't downstairs, up, ready, bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, and in that room for six o'clock when that breakfast spread is put out, you're going to miss it. And all of those places used to have the pancake special. We had a pact that we would always wake each other up

to make sure that we don't miss the pancake special. I forgot to wake up one morning. He missed the pancake special. pancake special and he stopped speaking to me for two weeks of the tour. Petty Park. He was very petty. He stopped speaking to me. He stopped speaking to me. Yeah.

That's justifiable. Yeah. I would say that. That's justifiable. He stopped speaking to me and he also hid the, uh, the Tabasco that I used to walk around with to put on my corned beef hash. He hid it. Your own personal, uh, Tabasco collection?

Yeah. I see. Okay. Okay. The Moni in the middle story. Can we get clarification? Because what is the Big Daddy Kane story that you mentioned before you took? This is the Moni in the middle story. Oh, okay.

The Big Daddy Kane story and the Moni Middle story of the same. This is the buildup that he was talking about. Yeah. About my mind, based on the video, you know, I thought the pest point-dexter character was just some Steve Urkel Dweeb. and I didn't know that it was a taste of chocolate. So. Okay.

But I do, you know what, even though I know the stories, even though I know this story and I know that, you know, a lot of my generation male rappers have fragile, fragile egos when it comes to getting rejected, I have to give them a little bit of points for coming up with the most passive-aggressive way, to figure out if you were into him or not. And that's what I gave him props for. Listen, from beginning to end, you must understand that Big Daddy Kane is absolutely the number one student of Dolomite.

Okay? He is the number one student of Dolomite. Big Daddy Kane does not play himself. I need you to understand this. Big Daddy Kane does not put him, put him. in a position where he can be viewed as playing himself. It just does not happen. I know that's, ooh, that's why they love, yeah.

Okay, so talk about the system, the Big Donald's system. The system, this is the McDonald's system that Big Daddy Kane came up with, okay, in order to understand whether I liked him in that way or not, okay? Wait, this is this real life? Is this real life? Y'all, like, Big Daddy Kane and Moni. Yes. Okay.

We are officially hearing the Moni in the middle. story. Yes, this is the story that inspired Moni in the middle. Well, there's some crazy shit. Yes, you have lied. I've told you this. You know, I spoke.

Okay. Let's go. Let's go. All right. So we're at, we're in D.C. I can't remember the name of the hotel, but there's this one specific hotel that everybody's,

whenever you go to D.C. It was the day. Or New York Avenue. Yep. That's the one. I only know this because old dirty bastard once crashed a car into one of the, Yes, he did.

Yes, he did. Yes, he did. That's the same. Yeah, it's the same hotel. Big, please. Do you know, all right. Fonte, you got to know this days in when you're going to D.C. Well, you too, right.

You know, you know that days in? Yeah, yeah. It's a whole strip of hotels that everybody used to get their day. Yes, but every rapper stays when they're first starting out in that days in. Absolutely. So I attracted, I don't know, the ladies first and the whole nine y'all. and the vibe that it gives us, I love women, a lot of girls, on the sister girl, sister power, you know, I attracted a lot of girls.

Oh, yeah. And all the girls had cars. All the girls had cars. Oh. So the guys that were all in, whose room were they in? They were in Kane's room. Latifo was in there, too. They were playing Seelow, and they were stealing everybody's prudium money.

Per diem. Yeah. And so everybody got hungry. I was with, I was actually dating. No, I wasn't dating him yet. But I liked him. Scrap lover. Scrap lover.

Oh, scrap lover. His dance. The dance. One of Big Daddy King's dances, okay, but he didn't know it yet. I didn't say anything. I just peeped him. I thought he was cute, whatever. So anyway, they come to me.

Scoop and Scrap come to me and they're like, oh, everybody in the room wants to see if they could get something to eat. Do you think one of your girlfriends would, or a couple of them? would drive us over to the McDonald's. There was a McDonald's close by. So I was like, I'll ask. I'll ask a couple of the girls. I say, like, yeah, Moni, we'll do anything for you. We'll drive over to the, who do you need us to take?

So three cars, we had three cards from three different girls going over to the McDonald's. So scuba scrap was getting everybody's orders. So we get to the McDonald's. We're standing online. And then Scrap lover turns to me. and says, all right, this is how this is going to go. Kane wants to know if you like him.

Here's what's going to happen. If you do, you walk in, you hold his food when we get back and you hand it to him. And that way he'll know, yes, you do like him. If not, then I'll just give him his food regular. just myself or wow. Place it on the nightstand or on a far table. Right.

So then to scrap, well, it looks like you're going to be giving him his food. And he was like, why? And I was like, because I like you. So just,

just so we know, this is the black serenotivergiac story. Of which Kane as a serenotivirio is telling his boy, give her instructions on how to let her know if it's on or not.

Yeah. It's like fifth grade. I love it. It's like that. And Scraps says, he, Scrap says it looked like I'm going to be giving him back tonight. Like basically, basically that. Wait, but was scrap thrown off? Did he know that you dug him?

He didn't. Did he give him the bag? He gave, he gave, he gave Cana's food. And then, you know, he gave Kane his food. food and then came, you know, Kane didn't make no face or nothing like that. It just was what it was. That to me is that,

yeah, that that's the next level of yes, no, or maybe. It is like the little note that you send, but. Do you want this double quarter pound or not, Nick? Wow. So what inspired you to make a song about it? I don't know. I have no idea why

it started talking to me when I started hearing the beat. Because of course, monium niddle was produced by the fine young cannibals by Andy Cox and David Steele. Right. And when I heard, it was the runaway breakbeat, correct? Yeah. So when I'm listening to it, it just started talking to me. And I just started replaying that whole DC night in my head. And I was like, I was in the middle. I was in the middle. I was definitely in the middle. Actually, wait, wait, I got to correct myself. And only only because Sheila E.

Corrected me on this. We call that we call that drum track, the runaway break, but we only found out that because of the way that they rhythmically segued that album,

runaways technically the last thing said on the song before. But because it's in rhythm, every DJ that spins that break thinks that runaway break is the top of the break when actually it's just ending the song before got it and then the breakbeat starts and it's look at that if i could start my life over things you learn right yeah no no no for the longest i call it the runaway break ever the runaway right and she told me well no like every every producer's like saying it wrong because it's the song before

and then if i had to start my life over is actually the name of the you know is wow break. So, so, to be clear, so you and Scrap ended up dating later. We did. Yeah, y'all scrapped were dating. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Gotcha. No. And Moe was your breath control? Because it's funny, because I would have never known how harmony in the middle actually is to perform until I actually did it one day for your birthday. But your breath control is kind of crazy. Was it always like that? Or did you? Yeah.

Really? Yeah. It's still. It sounds like you're saying birth control. It's just so clear. I'm saying breath. I'm saying breath. Okay.

I just want to make sure that wasn't the only one. I was like, this is beyond me. I know. I know her birth control. Her birth control wasn't crazy. I know that. No, my birth control sucked. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wait, time out. Yeah. Oh, man. We should also clarify that the lyrical, the lyrical complexity of that song, which I believe you're talking about the hook, is two people. And this is also a good time to bring in LaShawn.

Absolutely. So, wait, I always wanted to know because I never got to talk to LaShawn. And, of course, LaShawn is the voice of where you at. L.L.'s doing it. Absolutely. And she's also, the original. Shoshana of Bitties in the BK Lounds. Yeah.

The woman of a billion voices. And the original doing it well. Yeah. That LL. That song on. Mm-hmm. What role was she in? this native tongue universe because we first heard her on biddies in the BK lounge and eventually

on Money in the middle and she went under the name Aminjoy was she eventually like who was she the protege of and how she started hanging around she's a she's an emcee in her own right and I don't know how she met the jungle brothers but I met her because I was dating in Africa and she was actually dating Sammy B and she and Sammy B have a son together her first child is Sammy B. Oh, gotcha. Okay. And so I was fresh from England, and she's one of the first women that I met when I came

here to this country as Africa's girlfriend, you know, Africa's girlfriend who has a record deal who he's producing the rest of her album. And she's one of the first women that I met, and she and I became sisters real quick. She's Brownsville, Brooklyn, girl. She don't play. By that voice, I can tell it. Okay. Were there immediate plans to, like, get her a deal or?

Oh, no, she was an artist in her own right. She had a deal. She was signed to Wild Pitch. The original doing it. Right, but as LaSalle. But as Amin Joy, did she ever get? No, no, no. She was signed as Armand Joy.

That's her artist's name. Her real name is LaShawn. She was signed for Wild Pitch as Arm and Joy. Doing it, well, side, flipside, totally off. What's the name of the song on the B-side? Totally awesome. Okay, I see. So, okay, in doing ladies first, which, you know, has gone down in history, how did that collaboration come to be?

Remember when I told you that Dave Funkin Klein bought True Mathematics, Jungle Brothers, Chil Rubji, and Queen Latifah to England, and they did a stream of shows, and they were at Camden, and that's where I met them. Yeah. Well, after that, they drove over to England on a tour bus that they picked up. up in Germany and it was a German bus driver and he couldn't make heads of tails of the UK maps to be able to get from A to B to their next shows. So Funkin client asks me, would I mind riding the bus with them getting the maps out sitting next to the bus driver to help big? Which is why in the documentary that you did, Quest and when Shaqin was talking, he said, Moni was kind of like a tour guide. He's right. I was like a road manager at that young age.

because I got the maps out. I was sitting at the front of the bus with the bus with the German. You were the GPS. I was the GPS. Absolutely. The original Siri. The original series. Wow.

Yep. And from doing that, we wound it up, we wound up, excuse me, in Bristol one night. It had a show. It was on a barge. So it was, you guys know what I mean when I say barge, right? Moving ship. It was like a houseboat. Right.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Like a club on a houseboat, right, on the river. Kind of a Contiqui and Virgin Island sort of thing. Okay. And so Latifah and I were in the back. She was waiting like a little green room or what, you know, if you may. And she and I were talking and she was like, you know, I heard you rhyme. You know what I'm saying?

Let me hear a little something. And I gave her a little stuff. She's like, that's dope song together. We didn't ladies first until maybe six, seven months after that converse. But that was the night in Bristol on a barge that. La Tiefa and I had the conversation about doing a song together. A win is a win. A win is a win.

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Oh, okay. Yeah, I, maybe that's just me. I still don't feel like that. I don't feel like that. I think we're, I think we are in the midst of the strangest and longest hiatus ever. Wow.

But there was a period where it got awkward. Hold on awkward, but just... No, no, no, no, that's good word. No, no, no, keep that. It's a good word. Awkward. And since you're my closest connection to Africa, and since I just paid about 50 bucks for that freaking record,

they just re-release the original Crazy Wizard Masters. Right. Which is really not that different. Wait, what's the release? They, okay, so the third album after, done by the forces of nature. Oh. was called Crazy Wisdom Masters.

Okay. And so I guess the way that the story went was that by the time that Benny Medina had really come at the helm of Warner Brothers, he... Oh, wow, that's a name. He was like, nah, it ain't happening. Right. He sent the record back, and then they made a crazier record. I don't understand that guy.

I really... I'm sorry. I just... You don't understand Africa? No, no. Benny Medina. Yeah, I don't understand him. Well, wait.

You were on Warners, at least in America. I just, yeah, but you would think that, I don't know. I don't know. I just, I guess I can't meet people and have such close ties with people and have so much involvement with people and then just completely drop them afterwards. I don't know how to do that. He knows how to do that very well. I was going to say, yeah. Chase that.

The white man's idea. Laia, did you even know that he was my oldest child? God's God. And he forced himself to be. Like he really made it a big deal to be like, I want to be her girlfriend. Like, why? Because it's like years later.

She doesn't even know him. Hell no. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's an interesting dude. But anyway, you were saying. Well, no, I, well, it just hit me now that he was also, I guess, assuming that he was head of your division as well, Warner Brothers. Absolutely. Benny signed me.

It's so weird because. if I could mark the sort of weird point of Warner Brothers, at least with Kane's career, with Prince's career, a few other. He also orchestrated that whole Peter Edd. Exactly. And then he came aboard. And then he came aboard,

things got a little different. Now, I'm personally cool with him, but. No, that's when she's got whack. That was like Warner. If you just, if you were a DJ, if you saw Warner brother sticker and on some hip hop shit. You knew it was some bullshit. You'd off rip. You was like, nah, it's wanting this shit whack. Right. And so, yeah, I was going to ask, what was it like being under that, like, did you, did you have a relationship with Moe Austin at the time or? I didn't.

I didn't. My relationship was Peter Edge, Benny Medina. Time out. Peter Edge was at Warner, too? Peter Edge, I'll do better than at Warner. Peter Edge came from England to the United States, to Warner Brothers, made that transition during my first album, during my transition.

Peter Edge was my A&R at Chrysalis, Cool Tempo. Okay, cool. All right, Chrysalis, EMI. Gotcha. Yeah. Well, he eventually went back to EMI, so. Exactly. So Peter Edge came from there with me.

It was like the Trinity. It was like me, my Liverpool, Puddly and manager, Steve Feining, and Peter Edge, three of us came from England to the United States. Peter, man. Like, oh, God, the, there was a night where, um, listen, Amir, I gave him so much shit. I gave him so much shit about that Prince thing. I didn't want to do it. I was annoyed.

I was like, what does this have to do with hip-hop? I gave Peter Edge so much shit. And he was so smart. He was just so smart with it. And I just, the plane ride, the plane ride to Minneapolis, I was being a bitch. I don't want to be here. I don't want to be on this plane.

Why am I going to Minneapolis? What does Paisley have to do with hip-hop? Not impressed by prints at all. Like, you would- No. No. Not even with his legacy and- I loved this.

I loved him for him. But you saw it. I could not understand the mesh. You were afraid of your credibility of doing something. Absolutely. Yeah. And the thing was from, For me, it's just so interesting to hear the way you talk about it moni.

Because to me, in a word or two, is the only time that Prince ever got hip hop half way right. Like, you know, I love that song. You know what I'm saying? Like, I love that song. You know what I mean? And I always thought it was very unique how you, you know what I'm saying, were the MC, were the only time that Prince ever got hip hop right. Ever.

Because all the rest of that shit, when you try to do some rap shit, that guy. gold nigger album and all that shit? No. No. But in a word or two, I love that song. I was like, no, this actually works. And how long did you stay at Paisley Park? Oh my God, I was there forever. He had, he made accommodations for my husband at the time.

He made accommodations for my brand new baby, which is Charlena at the time. He was like, whatever it is going to be to keep her happy for her to be here for a long period of time to work, that's where I'm going to have her. And even to the point where he had shows to do at Earl's Court in England, so I thought we were going to break and we were going to get to go back to New York for a little while. Nope. He pulled me and my husband and my brand new baby to England also for the duration of his shows in England. Also, the same hotel. Was the prime purpose to strictly write for Carmen? Or was it like, okay, I'll do Carmen's album and I'll do your record as well.

Yes, that's what it was. Because see, the thing is when Peter Reg first sat me down and told me the whole thing, you know, he wants you to write for Carmen Electra. I was like, all right, cool. But then it was like, and he's going to do a certain amount of songs on your album. That's when I was like, nah, nah, nah, nah. That's what I was like, why? Why can't I just do anything? Then it was swap.

So what was his, all right, so my first visit to Paisley Park, one of those most, most shocking things that I discovered. I went in his office is connected to like Studio A. Mm-hmm. And, you know, while Femi Jaya was sort of looking the other way, I snuck in Prince's office just to look at his record collection and see what he's into.

So I saw a CD player. And I was shocked that Midnight Marauders was in it. Oh, wow. So I was like, oh shit, Prince was in the tribe? That's crazy. Wow. What was his IQ into as far as like hip-hop was concerned? How much did he know about you?

How much did he know about Native tongues, all those things? He did not talk to me about native tongues. He did not talk to me about hip-up period, but he knew everything about me. He knew the songs that I had released prior to coming to America, prior to coming, prior to being signed to. He knew. my cool tempo shit.

You know what I'm saying? He knew that. Yeah, he knew that shit. He even knew my, he even knew my just bad productions release. As we remind our younger listening audience that the internet was not around at the time. So this is a big deal. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. He knew, he knew about me enough to be able to. It wasn't just, it really wasn't a cold working environment. It was going to be a teachable moment for you, Mone. these weeks that your hair is going to be a teachable moment for you. So what did we learn? Ooh.

I learned to stop fighting, fighting creativity because that entire experience with Prince was just a damn flusset flowing of creativity that I was fighting because of a general pig-headed bias of nah, I'm hip-hop and I got to stay hip-hop. and I can't get involved in any other type of influence of music to interfere with my hip hop. Prince taught me to relax. Stop it. You are the hip hop. Whatever you do is going to be the core of what you want to express,

but allow some of the other sources to flow through you because it's going to make you grow on a creative level. It's going to make you better. Exactly. And this was a teachable moment. Was there any fear or trepidation in your husband at the time? In his mind that Prince was just trying to groom you to being a long line of muse slash Prince Jones? No, because I was too fat. I just had a baby.

Right. I was thinking of the same thing. Yeah. I think the baby, yeah. That thing the baby might have saved you. It did. It did. You know, I mean.

Although, listen to this, though. He was with Mite at the time. And he, this was prior to them, their child, you know, blessed the little angel in heaven. Fun fact, his name was Amir. Wow. Wow. Wow. And he had a fascination with babies because he had me bring her to a show, one of the shows

that he did in Earl's Court when I had to go to England when he was doing shows at Earl's Court. And I went to the show and I had her in my arms. And during the middle of, during an eight bar break in, um, it was, oh, sexy MF, right? Mm-hmm. He came to the side of the stage and was like, go do eight bars right now. I'm like, what? I had the baby in my arms.

He was like, give me the baby. Yeah. Really? Yes. That's crazy. And he said, give me the baby. So I handed him Charlena. See, he's standing at the side of the stage with Charlena.

He's like, go ahead, go do eight bars. So I went out. I went out there. I totally blacked out, did eight bars because it was shock and it was fair. And it was just like, I went, I did the eight bars. I came back off. He handed me the baby. He ran back out and continued.

And these are the things that he taught. He really encouraged me to conquer any fears that I may have had. whether it be in performing or whether it be in creating. And pancakes are a real thing. Pancakes are a real thing. That pancakes are a real thing. Oh, my God. So he made you the pancakes.

Yes. Yes. He made me the pancakes dressed as prince. It was weird. Everything comes down to pancakes in this particular episode. Fantastic. Oh, my God. It was really, it was so strange.

But I didn't realize, I didn't make the connection. until years later when I was watching the Chappelle show. And then I was like, and then I was like, holy shit. He does this pancake shit. He really does that. Does this mean, Mo, that you were actually in the studio with Carmen Elektra? Like you had to. Absolutely.

Dude, she wrote everything. Go, go and all that shit. So what is that like? Like, because this is the first time. I want to ask about all that now. I'm sorry. No, that, as long as we didn't. We're there. We're there. Right. Okay. So for those who don't know, in one of these

strangest, what was old boy's name that Jane Fonda used to be married to? He, Ted Turner. Oh, Ted Turner. Ted Turner. Oh, Ted Turner. Ted Turner would like colorize all of his classics. Yeah. And right. So for Prince fans, he took the Adora reels and redone. a door with Carmen called all that. Oh.

And yeah, it didn't go down too well. But what was it like working with karma? Karma. Carmin. Mm-hmm. At the time period. I mean, you basically built her. You built.

It was, it was fun. It was fun. She's absolutely, she's actually, she was actually the hip-hop. fan in the room. Wow. Really? Yeah. Because where's Carmen from?

I can't remember, but it was ghetto as fuck. Really? Really? Really? Yeah. Like, it was... I mean, she didn't come in the door as that image or that name. So during this period, you're getting to know her as whatever.

What is a real name? Common Electric, damn. Territory Patrick. That's right. Damn. How'd you know that? Because I got Google, bitch. Now, I think you knew that already.

I'm about to say, yeah. That didn't come from a Google search. That came from a recalled memory. It very specific one. Hey, I'm going, Bill. Does it say where she's from? Yes, I'm working on that as we speak. Okay, okay.

Yeah, because he has just Google. I don't know that. Exactly. She's from Sharonville, Ohio. Exactly. There you go. There you go. Meph Lab.

There you go. Shut up. Now, right. Before meth labs were a thing, she was like the first meth lapper. Damn, Common Electric could have been, she could have been the person Nicky binnaged at this bitch. Exactly. Well, he tried it.

Yeah. But see, what I'm saying is I remember that she was from someplace that wasn't, you know, hoity-toity, you know, pretty city. She was from someplace rough and that's from speaking to her and developing a friendship and a relationship with her. To this day, me and Carmen Electrook. to this, you know what I'm saying? Which is so dope.

But to this day, and that was the rap fan. And that was the real hip-hop fan in the, in the room. Is that one? She knew everything. She knew everything. She knew everyone. I could tell she was a Rakim fan. Like, you know.

Wish. Wow. Yeah. Which is another reason why, like, which is another reason why she caught my shit like this, like this. And I write. I don't write specifically. specifically to cater to people that can't breathe. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I write specifically intricate. I write in a manner in which I don't want people to be able to recite my rhymes. Yeah. That's how I write. You know, I specifically write complicated, double-stit. Damn right you do. You know what I still can't say the word merrily. Exactly.

Mary Lee, Mary. Even now, I can't. Memory, Merley, Merley. Fuck that. Merrily, merrily, merrily, memory. Meryl. You can't say to Bergerac either. Oh, my gosh.

Terrily Patrick. What? Sorry. I'm here. But yeah, she, she, that girl is incredible. She's, and it's like, she's not the first person. She's not the first woman to have, although it might be the first woman with her lyrics written by a woman. The first woman is rhyming with her lyrics written by another woman.

That might be at first. Ghostest. You know, exactly. But she caught everything. She caught everything. And that's why, I bet you when you heard get on, right? I bet you when you heard that song, you said to yourself, that sound like, well, me.

Yeah. No, I mean, you know, I knew that someone, I believe that at the time, the same could be safe for Tony M. There, it was like the DNA was real hip hop at the time. Like what you were doing, where Raq Kim was doing, what Kane was doing, like all that iambic pentameter. Ayamidimic. You know, so, yes. Mone, so in your transition to radio, how awkward was it at the time in doing that?

Not awkward at all. I didn't, again, again. I can't even say divergeiac. So, you know, I'll be a horrible. This was, okay. This was another. Wait, hold on. You just turned it into a different word.

There should be no reason why I know Sierra. I know Sierra no. Okay. I would just say Steve Martin. I like it. Take the dice. You Steve Martin. There you go.

Best love. Good reference. Todd Rundren's on the phone for you. Shut up, man. Wow. What timing? Anything out. Just like that.

On proper nouns that Amir does not know how to say. Me. Roald Jerry. Todd Run. Run. Run. Run, green, grin. Oh, damn.

Then I come here with my curricature. Best wedding gift ever, the caricature. You were so confident. Oh, such a good day. So loud and wrong, both. So loud, go loud, proud. Oh, my God. And you said that loudly?

Oh, yeah. In a room full of people. Yes. It was a lovely caricature. Me and my wife. He's like, at his wedding, they gave everybody their own caricature. And we were like, I was like,

Excuse me. What the fuck is a curricula? Yeah. So, Moni, you need to teach these guys maybe some English lessons. Yeah. Iambic pentameter. What the fuck? Go ahead. But the thing is, Moni, is that assuming that you didn't go to communication school to learn to do this in front sale and back sale or whatever. See, I'm even forgetting the terms of a radio. No, you got it. How much of a crash course did it take for you to master it? It was like night school. And honestly, a whole.

A whole sitcom could be made out of night school on radio, actually learning how to broadcast during the unsociable hours of the morning. To the point, to the point. And it was me and Miss Jones together. Fuck, it was Ms. Jones. Yeah. You started in Philly? No. We both started at Hot 97 in New York.

Okay. Okay. And Steve Smith, who was a person. Who offered that? How did that come to be? they had Ed and Dre in the morning. They had Funkmaster Flex. They had Angie from whatever station it was before flipped.

And they kept Angie. And somebody's bright idea to Steve Smith, who was the person that flipped the station, was like, you should seek out some other bona fide potential personalities that you think would fit. My manager got the call to bring me in to meet with Steve Smith. I went in. He said, how do you feel about being on a radio? And I said for why. Like, why would I want to be on the radio?

Because, you know. At the time, are you still, were you auditioning still? Or you were just like the one acting thing that I'm out? Was that before? I'm trying to put the timeline together. Doing what now? Acting. What did I miss?

Acting, because she did when you did the other. Oh, I did. Who's the man and strapped? Strat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, that type of stuff was happening. I was still recording music, you know. So I was like, well, do I want to be. a radio for. I know nothing about being on a radio. Steve Smith's thought is like, I will teach you and I will get your FCC license for you. What the heck is an FCC license now? I was going to ask that. And do we need it? No. But you, no, you don't, but you, on terrestrial radio, you have to have a FCC license back in the day.

You also have to be able to pronounce terrestrial radio. Yeah, I was going to skip that word because, you know. And were you guys secrets? Because I know sometimes seeing radio, they let you come at night too because they want to surprise everybody and be like hey and moni love is now to the radio station yeah they didn't announce us as announced yet but they were training us and let me tell you something me and miss jones would be messing up badly at night time they'd be dead they'd be dead air for like 45 minutes and then the mics and then the mics will be up and we're talking about i i hate that guy i went out with him and he was such a piece of shit and then she get a phone call like uh you guys

have the microphone on. Oh, no. Like, we was doing the dumb shit at night time. It was like, you know, three, four o'clock in the morning. And me and Miss Jones was just fucking up badly. Well, I consider this to be a lucky opportunity because, you know, I'm on a platform on eye heart, but I kind of have some say in,

who I get to interview and I tend to gravitate to my tribe and who I like and who I know. I've given a bunch of nose to people that I know where this shit's going. Yes, we do. No, no. Oh, I didn't even get there yet. But in doing terrestrial world juror. What is it? There we go.

I don't know. Just, just anything more than what you say? Four syllables is killing me right now. And doing terrestrial radio. No. Extra terrestrial radio. Do it. Terrestrial radio.

Yeah. You don't necessarily have a say in not even who you play, but who you interview and all those things. So how do you handle when you're, you know, if you're five, six years in and you're interviewing an artist that you are indifferent on? Or you don't know. Even now, like if NBA, nothing against NBA young boy, I'm just picking the one. You're just throwing a name. I get it. The one Gen Z name that everyone knows.

Like, how much research do you have or do your producers already write the questions out? No. You just go off the lead sheet what they tell you. No, you got to read up on it if it's something you, if it's a person that you don't particularly care for, but it, you know, an interview is demanded of that person because of whatever is going on. they got something new coming out, they have a project, whatever it is that makes sense. You have to read up on them

and do a little history so that you can prepare your questions. It doesn't matter if you like him or not, you got to put your personal shit behind you, which is why I couldn't understand that penis Morgan guy. That was... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice.

That's called... That's called white privilege, but that's another conversation. Well, it's also male toxicity. I didn't realize that he... I didn't even realize that he had a relationship. relationship with Megan Markle. He tried to.

Sociopathic lower scale, but sociopathic narcissist is what that person is. Penis myr. Penis Myers. Yes. Yes. Penis Morgan. There is right. And you know what?

You know what? I said something. I was having a conversation with my oldest daughter about it, right? And I said to her, I was like, if I had to give you a quick analogy of what that whole situation was between the penis Morgan guy and Megan Markle, it would be this. Remember back in the days when a girl would brought past a bunch of guys, they'd be like, S, S, S, S, baby, what's up? What's up?

And you don't answer. And then the guy goes, fuck you there, bitch. That's that that. That's what that was. Yes. Now we do. Bags, you got curved. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, because she didn't show up to the day she met Harry that night. I heard the story. That, that's that. Who I'm going to pick. Harry appears. Oh, right. Poor guy. Okay.

Laya, let's get into it. Oh. No, the thing is, I don't know the story. I, I, I think that it's perfect that she's sitting here because she is the reason why the shit went viral. Well, yeah, because that was the young GZ's story. Yes. Well, yes.

Because as Moni said, we were. on a morning show together. And it was funny because we knew Gizi was coming, but everybody was really kind of more scared of what I was going to say to him. And I thought that was the fascinating part. Everybody was preparing me like, Laya, you know, don't say this. Because at the time, I was like, let me just add. At the time.

That if y'all think like we're on at least what, episode one 160 right now, if y'all think Laya is unhinged on this show. Well, not, yeah. Like he's the only person I know that would routinely daily, like, talk shit about Jay-Z. I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing. Well, Moni was there that day, too, where I got warned about us interviewing Jay-Z on the phone. And the problem was, and the mirror, you know, the real problem was is that I was like a whole Roots warrior chick, right? So I was just like, and I was on some real hip-hop shit.

You're about to stop the bag like, yeah. No, that's true. It's true. It's true. You tell that person and say that, no, no. Yeah, but at the time, that was when the Roots was on Def Jam. And as we know, all hip-hop fans know, he didn't really do much for the Roots brand. And I was like, what the fuck?

So, yes, I asked him those questions. But anyway, anyway, so back to Jeezy, though. So, yeah, so I was the one that was the girl that would, you know, crushed 50 Cent CDs live on the air and stuff like that. Because I was just like, what is this shit? It's killing the black community. Dada, da, da. And Moni would even pull me to the side to say, like, you know, be calm when he comes.

Just let him talk, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, Moni, cool, cool, Moni. So, but then he comes, and I'm cool. I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. And this is, this is the period when Nas had the what, hip hop is dead album? Yes. Yes, yes. And, um, now, Moni, this is where you pick up the conversation.

No, tell me how I'm glad to. No, keep going. I will. I'll chime in, but I won't. Keep going. Okay. So we're talking about. about hip-hop and I cannot remember how Pooch picked how he started the conversation about hip-hop being dead.

But only it was like she got the holy hip-hop spirit and she was like, yeah, hip-hop is dead. Now, G-Zee didn't like that. Okay, okay, now I need to stop you. Okay, correct me. Okay, so yes, Pooge bought something up about, you know, how do you feel, he asked G-Zi the question, how do you feel about Naz's new album and his saying that hip-hop is dead? And so GZ basically said, well, I feel like, how can you really say that? Like, I don't really think that that's accurate to say that because that's how I make my living.

That's how a lot of us are making our living. We got stuff to say still. And so then I then jumped in and he was like, who is he to say that? And I was like, well, I think that what Nas is trying to say in that analogy is that once upon a time, there were several aspects of hip hop that were all getting light. All of them were getting light. It was the gangster stuff.

It's the political stuff. It's the happy we just hear the party type stuff. And definitely this stuff getting played on the radio. Right. And then the more commercial stuff. It was all of those aspects of hip hop that were all getting equal light. And I think what Naz was trying to say at this time,

and this is me talking to Jeezy. So I think what Nas is trying to say, at this time is that right now it's all one-sided. It's all about the street life and the bitches and the money and the cars and the this and the that. And that's not everything. So the aspect of hip-hop's multifaceted self is dead right now. I think that's what Nas is trying to say in that analogy. Yes. And at this time, GZ was not ready for that intellectual breakdown. And at this moment, we were not sure. I think me and we were not sure due to his response to Mone.

And Mone, you break down the response because, again, I smoke. So then after that, so then after that he was like, he kind of got animated in his speech pattern and was like, well, you know, you got a whole different type of appreciation to hip hop. Ain't you from England? And so then I was like, so this is when me and Pooge realized he don't know who he talking to right now. Oh, he didn't even know that was moni love? Yes. Well, that's what I hear things because she said that. She said it.

I said it on the mic. I was like, you know who you talking to right now, right? I swear to God, he didn't say moni love. He was like, yeah. I don't think he knew that you were that moni love. He was like, you got a whole different appreciation to, you know, we came up listening to something else. And in my head, I'm saying to myself, dude, you're not.

not that much younger than me. Like, that's, that's not going to fly. You're not that much younger than me. It's not that big of a difference. And yes, I came up in, in, in England, but it's the same hip-hop. So basically, we should be pulling from the same waters, the same streams. Let me interrupt. To his credit, not to his credit, but hip-hop generations, it's like, if you're before

the five or after the five, is night and day. So me being born in 71. like anyone born after 75 is almost like you might they might be 20 years younger you know why that doesn't make sense to me I'm gonna tell you why that doesn't make sense of Fonte wait Fonte where are you born I'm 178 I'm gonna say that like Fonte has like a savant's knowledge of music but anyone else I know in 78 I might as will be talking to someone born in 86 as I sit here and I listen to you as I sit here and I listen to you say that I'm going to say this I now have an appreciation

for that factor. And so now, right now, I'll say, you know what? He really could have been on some different, for real, genuinely, on a different plane and pulled from a different stream. But back then, I was looking at it like, dude, you're not getting a young card. You're not that much younger than me. We should have been pulling from the same streams. Why are you not understanding this?

Why are you not understanding Naz's analogy? No, man. Why are you not understanding it? That's where my head was at that moment. Well, and then it was, it was worsened. It was worsened because I am, I don't do well with over-talking men. Right.

I don't do well. Then how are you on this show? She's just a guess. We all talk over each other. But Moe, talk about the part when his ass stood up, though, because that That's the part I was trying to remember. I was like, that's the part when I was like, wait, what's going on? Why are you saying?

Oh, he was about to get physical? No, he was about to roll. No, he's about to roll. And at that point, okay. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. That's when the flames, the flames, they was coming.

Okay, so, okay, so y'all remember Kim Waynes and her Mrs. Jenkins. Right, right, right. Right. Right. Right. You ain't heard it for me. Oh, don't you talk about Ms. Jenkins. Don't talk about Ms. Jenkins.

Okay, okay. She started crying. Don't know what I'm talking about Ms. Jenkins. Okay. Listen, listen. Okay, don't talk about, don't talk, don't talk, don't talk about Nas. Don't do that. Don't do that.

Don't do that. That's a bad idea. And so he stood up and was like, who is Nas to say this? And I was like, oh, oh. And Lai will tell you, when I hit that note, of the O, it's a problem. When you hear me say, oh. I thought it was a,

and it was a Naz's hip-hop? Was it a Nause's hip-hop? He was like, do Nause-Bus his guns. And then I was like, wait, stop. When he was like, when he said, who is NOS to say that? And I was like, somebody that's been here for a very long time. Do Niles have street credibility?

He said that? When he said that, I was like, yeah. Do Nause-R-R-Credability. Do Nose-Bus his guns. Do I got niggas in the feds? And I was like, and at that point, if you watch the video, you will hear me mumbling on the mic in a low monotone voice. It's dead. You just killed hip-hop right now.

You just dead right now. It's dead right now. With everything you're saying right now, it's dead. You just killed it. You just stabbed it. You just shot it. You just killed it. I wasn't even aware of this.

You hear me saying that at that point underneath now. In hindsight, I look back at it and I'm like, what I was trying to relay to Gizi in that interview is was simply that the analogy that Nas was making wasn't to be disrespectful towards him and his sector of hip-hop. Yeah, it wasn't anything to disrespect that. It was something that was, it was an analogy that was made to bring light to the fact that all the facets of hip-hop music were not. being given and shown the same light and the same level of respect at that moment in time. That's all Nas was saying

with that analogy at that time. But Jesus took offense, you know, and in hindsight, I understand he took a fence. He took it personally like it was a dig at him. Right? So I get that part. Also,

perhaps the way that I was speaking in, because I was calling him brother, and I was trying to be polite and respectful while I was speaking to him. He wasn't trying to hear. He wasn't trying to hear that. I think that's probably just ego and bravado being young. And I was also trying to, trying to have a teachable moment with him as far as to say, protect all the facets of hip hop today. Otherwise, in 10, 15 years time, when the new kids on the block come up and you're not this jeezy, this. you are now, which is the it guy, when it's 10, 15 years later, then new guys can push your

shit to the garbage in the garbage can. So what I'm trying to have a moment with you now to understand how important it is to preserve all the elements and all the facets of it so that you can have a place to survive 10, 15 years later. You know what I'm saying? And it just, it just wasn't coming. It wasn't coming across. He wasn't ready. He was. He was. He was in his goosey face. It wasn't coming across. Jesus today with it. Right. Yeah. You know, and don't forget back then, he, if you remember when like, I think a month before he was,

I mean, it was clearly a 50 cent troll move, but he was talking about like, you know, I'm going to meet with John McCain and see what he's about. This was like. I remember that. Right. He was a musical guest on SNL, I think, in September. October 2008. It was kind of just putting out there like,

you know, just because Obama's black on me on my vote for him. So I'm going to see what John McCain has, you know, he had his arm around John McCain at S&L and was like, I'm going to go to lunch with him and see what he's about. And selling snowman shirts to little black kids in the wrong.

I don't remember. Yeah. That's when I had a problem. I mean, he's cool now, you know, but. But, yeah. But, yeah. Well, in essence, you know, in essence, Laia felt the whole thing

did not know she was filming it. Okay. Laia ran out the room as soon as that goddamn interview was over and she loaded that shit to every possible blog in the world at that time. And that shit went viral like a muve so quickly.

And it was crazy. Wait, here's the crazy part. Nobody knows. I don't even know if you knew this, Laia. Nobody knows that I had been undergoing a renegotiation with the radio station six months prior to that day. And that day was D-Day when I had to make a decision on whether I was going to accept the contract that they gave me.

And what it was was there was a little piece of wording in that contract that I did not agree with, which said that in order for me to do anything using my face, my name, my, how did you guys say caricature? Crickiture. Okay, using my face name, my caricature. Yeah, that's radio. That's radio shit. That's radio. It wasn't used to celebrities. So they was just to be regular.

Like shit. Basically, anything to do with my voice, anything to do with myself. If I wanted to write a book, if I wanted to be in a movie, anything, I would have to go to the radio station for permission. And that was the only problem with the contract that I had. The money was great. We were at a good place with everything except for that. And my lawyers were like, could we just change this wording to something. that is of a nature saying whatever that it is that I have in the works, a project, a book,

or whatever it is, the station will be, it will be made sure that the station knows about this and therefore that it's mutually agreed upon as far as it's nothing to hinder the name. It's not going to. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm not posing for Playboy. You know what I'm saying? Much to the dismay of many. But I'm not close. That made me excited. Sorry. You know what I'm saying? But the bottom line is my lawyer was like, can we put some wording like that in it?

They were like, no. So this day, this cheesy interview happened was the last day. As soon as we signed off, I had to go into the office, sit down with them, ask them, are you prepared to change the wording just on that little part? They said, no, we are not. And then I said, well, I cannot sign this document. Oh, that was your. I left that.

I left that. I left that. I left that office. I left that office that day at 1130. By 1 o'clock in the afternoon, my voice was completely stripped from the radio station. Yeah. They cleaned up real quick. And that's what they did.

They changed the name. That turned into Jeezzy got me fired. Yes. Oh, shit. Yeah, that turned into that. Jeezy got me fired. And I never corrected it. I let it be.

Wow. I never corrected it. Have you seen them since? I have not seen him since, but what's really interesting is he worked on a song and he worked with the producer called Keo. Keo is my child's, my son's godfather. And my daughter was in Atlanta at the time. I was saying to Keough Atlanta, yeah. Uh-huh.

And my daughter sang on a song called The Greatest, which was on one of GZ's mixtapes. Oh, wow. My child sang one. A circle. Circle. Yeah. Yeah. That's so crazy. But what's crazy, she said she met him at, what is Diddy's at the Revolt Convention in 2016, I think it is.

And she said that she said to him, you know, I sang on that song, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it was, she sang on it. And he, he asked, the story is he asked Keio, you know, Keio told him who it was, it was, it sang on it. whatever, and he asked Keo to put somebody else on it, like a known person or whatever, take my daughter off of it. And Keo said, no, the song comes with her. So if you're going to use this, the song comes with her. And so he kept it on his mixtape, but he never put it on his album. My daughter was a little bit, you know, she was a little crushed about that.

And I felt bad about it too because I'm like, damn, it's because of me and, you know. But at the end of the day, it is. what it is my, you live, Charlena. I'm not going back on anything because they threw me under the bus after that I interview. The way how it went was it turned into the woman was the idiot. Oh, the woman, she was off as soon as I walked in, you know, he called Nas up, had a conversation with Nas.

Nas called me and was like, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Just don't worry about it. All right. I'm not going to tell you what the conversation was between me and Jeezy, but yeah, he did reach out to me. And in my head, I'm saying to myself, you're damn right, he reached out to you

because that sounded ill. Yeah. All of that. Do we got people in the fed? Like, dude, it sounded ill. So you're damn right. He made sure that the man made sure that he called the other man

to have a conversation, right? And then throw the woman under the bus. Oh, she was off as soon as I walked in anyway. Something about her was off in the first. This is him saying, This is Jesus saying that about you. Yeah. Gotcha.

Which was not, which was the opposite. It was funny. You know, I don't, you know, I don't know what type of females at that time he was used to having conversations with. And I don't know if perhaps my, my, my, I don't know if perhaps my conversation may have been a little too, quote, unquote, uppity in his eyes at that time, you know. But the bottom line is the GZ that I see today is exactly. who I thought I was talking to. It's exactly who I was trying to reach. I knew I wasn't talking to him.

Yeah, he's matured. I knew I wasn't talking to him back then, but I knew that that person was going to do that person. He had, that was inside him. Yeah, yeah. And I was trying to talk to that person. Yeah. So that's basically what that was.

I've never seen him since then. Is that crazy? I've never bumped into him. I've never, no. And you're in Atlanta? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I've never seen. him since then. How long ago was that? Was that 18 years ago? Oh shit. Don't do that. Don't do that. That was like, oh, God. When was it? Yeah, that was, yeah, 08. If I was there, it was 2008. Okay. All right. 13. No, no, no, no. I, no, no. I left that station in, in, in February of 2007. That was 2007. Wow. Okay. Yeah, that was 2007. My final question is, now that you're at this state, in your life and all that you've achieved in anything. Is there anything that you've yet to do?

Do you get these, do you get, is there an itch that you want to scratch as far as like? Aside from the one in my off. I'm sorry, second the last question. Ultra Nete. Wow, you went there. Yeah, Ultronate real quick. So Ultra Nate, what was it like? What can work on her?

She's awesome. She's a tiny little powerhouse person. Oh my gosh. The Ultra to say opens her mouth and it's like she has a superpower. It's like she opens her mouth and everything turns into a tornado. As soon as she opens her mouth and she's so tiny. She's a small little package of just terror. As soon as she opens her mouth.

Oh, I do have a question before. She's singing on. I was just saying to Claire, she's the one to sing in on Ring My Bell. Absolutely. And just told me that is, that is alternate. And it was fun working with her.

And she's a big house singer. Like she's legendary house singer. Huge. Huge. Huge legendary. I was so grateful to be able to work with her. And again, this comes from the mindset of not getting in my own way

as far as creativity. You know what I mean? Yeah. Let me just ask, because I know you got your last question, but I just thought of something too. Can you, Mo, as a, as a, a legend in this game and as a as a commentator as well can you talk about like who some of the young folks

because I know you tuned into the young folks as well but like who you listening to and the younger sisters as well when it comes to emcees because I don't want to just ask you about female emcees but I was just curious honestly I'm trying to listen to a lot more I tune a lot of it out my kids are annoying but I but for the sake of trying not to um alienate them, I do make a conscious effort to give them car time when we're in the car and car DJ time so they can play stuff. But the only thing that I can't get past, and it's like, I try not to be this hypocrite is we, there was a period of time where we were cursing in our music and there were curses and there'd be curses. But for some reason. Not like this.

What is this? What is it? I don't. It's like every other freaking word. And I didn't. I do experiments in the car all the time where I'm like, okay, go ahead, play your stuff. Lacey's 12. That's my youngest.

I'll be like, all right, play your stuff. And it's like, oh, pussy, give me a head and the bitch and the fuck and that. And I'm like, God, God. And I'm like, I'm not approved. We've said curses. You know what I'm saying? Take in your mouth all day. That's, you know, that's our error.

You know what I'm saying? Like, we have stuff. but it just it's just like it's like I don't get a break you're an adult man it's like I don't get a break well wait since you're talking about your kids which one of your kids has sort of inherited

your taste because a lot of I'm always curious on how hip-hop parents raise their kids like do their kids know who they are are the exact opposite you know like which one has your taste like you can stop now and be like okay, this one, you know, knows, loves Marvin Gaye or whatever.

No, no, the oldest one, and it's by default because she was around. Because you just forced her to listen to everything. I really didn't. She just was around it. Oh, okay. It was just a natural thing with her, the oldest one, and she's 30 now. The rest of them, they're just, they're into what they're into. And I try to listen.

I do. And I do it often because I don't want there to be too much separation between us. I understand and appreciate that the times have changed and that what they listen to is vastly different from what I did. I mean, I used to be in the car with the two oldest girls and I used to put on a freeway, even though what we do was wrong. And my daughter that's now going to be 24, she'd be in the car seat in the back, in the baby seat. And then my oldest would be in the shotgun with me. And she and I would go, even though what we do is, and then the baby would go, Mom! Mom!

No! No! You know, we have that. You know what I'm saying? The two youngest, my son is 18 and then my youngest daughter is 12, they're into their own thing. There are those moments where they join in

with what I like to listen to, but they're far and few. Like, yeah, ma'am, we like old school. We like Beyonce? No. Right, right. Right. For Grandma, Beyonce, Grandma knows. No, more than anything, they bond with me on some rock.

Like, my kids know foo fighters. They know Nirvana songs. They know Stone Temple Pilots. They know. Yeah, they're because I'm a rockhead too. So they know that stuff more than they know a lot of the hip-hop that I grew up listening to. They're more so that. Wait. I can't.

Radiohead, bono. You hold a radio head? Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm surprised he's a cold play. Oh, totally, totally.

Yeah. But more so, totally, but listen, totally. But more so, my 12 year old knows incubus like the back of her hands. And that's because I'm, I am a huge incubus fan. And I never miss a show. I never miss a show. Yeah. Ben and I are tight and it's partly because of you.

It's partly because of you. because you and I are family. So then when I reached out to him one time, he was like, oh my God, you have to come to the show. And ever since then, I've never missed a show. Ben and I are tight. Damn, that's what's up. This was up.

Wait, I can't. I have one last question, but I have two. Because I got to ask about how did the alumni form? I can't let you. Yeah. Yeah, you're a super group. Special Ed, Chup Rock. Dana Dane and Kwaame, right?

I have to say Dave Locas, Dave Locus, because he just text me and said, make sure he get his shout out, Dave Lucas. No, he didn't. Shut up. Yes, he did. That's awesome. Wow.

Damn, Dave, that's corny, yo. But please answer here. Well, Dave was already managing Kwame. I don't know how they all got this ice. idea together, but they did. I was the last person to be called. Quame text me and said he needed to talk to me about something, called me, spoke to me about the concept. Would I be interested? I'd like, yeah, I'd be interested. And it was, it was very quickly put together after that. And we started doing shows almost immediately. But here's the thing, right?

Some- Still your money. I'm playing, I'm playing. No, something new happens every show. Every show. Something new happens because they, it's like the 18. There's always some shit. You know, Ed is stuck at the mall because he had to go get some sneakers. I've got to go get some sneakers. Or Chubb got a flat 21 miles out and we need to send the van to go get him.

Dana done drank off the whole damn green room already before. we get on stage because by the time we get on stage, it's not me. Wow. This is, well, y'all sound like bingo long and the traveling all starts. Listen, I will watch that show, though. Listen, when I tell you that this is the most glorified group of misfits ever, but it works. And how good does it feel to be able to do that, though? Because it was a time when, like, artists like y'all, like, I feel like it was a resurgence of

doing shows and stuff, I mean, even though it's COVID now, but it just feels good to be able to watch y'all. So how good does it feel to be able to do all these shows? It feels great, because here's the thing, Amir, we don't get on and I do a set of songs, and then I get off. And then Chubb comes on and does a set of songs, and then he gets up. It is absolutely, I'm doing, we're all on, listen, we're all on stage doing adlibs in each other's songs, be in each other's hype men. Check this out. I sing. Excuse me, not sing. I scat. The horn solo in Treatem Right. Every show.

Stanley Brown. You go. I'm going to say Stanley Brow. I scat the entire horn solo of Treating Right. I was going to say between the five of you, like, with all your respective hits and the well-love classic album cuts, that's a very, that's a very, you. Between the five of you, like, with all your respective hits and the well-loved classic album cuts, that's a very tight damn near. Could be near two-hour extravaganza.

Absolutely. No, no, it is. Easily. We condense it because a lot of shows that we get on the bill. We only get, like, you know, it might be 20 minutes, 30 minutes or something like that. Oh, damn. We have to condense the show. So we tailor-make it according to whatever billing we're on.

And then please let us not forget we have a DJ set in the middle of our show because DJ TAP money is our DJ. Does he still have his half row? He's D. Yes, yeah. No, no, he doesn't have his hat. He doesn't have his hat.

Well, he does, but it's on his belly now. Oh, damn. Anyway. The only reason why I know that is because he does a belly, he lifts his shirt up as part of his DJ set. And he's moves the fader with his belly. Wow. So yeah. Wow. Okay. This is perfect. Yo, I should remind everybody, you guys, Moni's closing out women's history month. And I just wanted to say it's so perfect because I don't

think people give you flowers enough. And I'm so glad that you had this time to say with us. Like flowers, like flowers, flowers. Thank you so much. No, man. I did not know that, you're, I guess, kind of the tentacles of your career went as far as they did. And this is the first time I'm hearing any of these stories. Me too. This is amazing. Like you really, you really weren't inspiration.

And, you know, again, just in a word or two for me, I was like, man, I love that song. Man, that was the one. I love that song. And that's the only time print Scott Hip-Up Right for me.

And the fact that he did it with you, I think that says a lot about you. Definitely intertwines a lot. I'm really glad that you guys have me on Amir, one of my fondest memories of the roots is I pledged myself to be their sister, okay? And I was so serious about being sister to the roots that when they won Grammys that year,

I drove by myself from New York to Philly at nighttime by myself to go to their Grammy party at... Electric factory. Ha-ha, that was a fun night. Yeah. No, it wasn't, like, you. Action and adventure. Yeah. No, only because that was the night where they played the clip of us winning.

And then I asked my girlfriend, so I'm like, wait, what does in theory mean? And she's like, that means you didn't deserve to win it. And I was like, wait, did Moby just say, in theory, the roots? She's like, yes, he did. And I was like, I've never, I've never, I mean, I didn't know that. Yeah, I mean, no, no, no. We, we, we, I said that in an interview once. When he, he said on the red carpet that he loved Buster Rhymes so much that even if

Buster Rhymes is not the winner of that night that he's going to declare Buster Rhymes the winner. So, of course, you know, when he's reading off the nominees and says, and the winner is, I was in the audience like, oh, we're not going to win, we're not going to win, we're not going to win. we're not going to win. And then everyone jumped up. I was like, oh, shit, we won. I didn't hear what he said. So when we watched the clip that night,

and he's like, and the winner is, in theory, the roots. And I was like, what does that mean? And they're like, fuck Moby. That means he didn't think you deserved it.

Like, you technically won it. Right, right. And that's just, that's when I started throwing my Grammys in the bathroom and, you know. And no one feels like to get in a fight with Moby. Wow. Yeah.

I'm sorry. That kind of started. That planted the seed of me like not wanting praise and I don't deserve this shit. Like that really did a number one me. Like he gave me a heartfelt email apology once I told a friend of his like, you know, what, how bad that, not hurt me, but just affected me to the point where I was indifferent to that shit. And he felt really bad about it. So he apologized.

But yeah, that night, I had a whole, you know, a whole other view of that Grammy party. Like I never, I hated flowers at that moment. Oh, wow. Okay. That's the origin of the flower and Amir's anti-flower movement. And the evolution. Got it. But it's, we're back.

As you, Gracie wasn't having that. So she made me reclaim it. These are my first time hearing any of these fucking stories. This shit is really great. Yo, it was funny. I never told you, Fonte? He didn't even tell you. I'd never do that.

shit. He didn't even talk about the real fight that went down at the party, but we'll talk about that later. That shit was ill. There was a fight? It was a, yes, remember, remember the shoot the couple fight, couple against couple, Roots member against Root's member and girlfriend and show my, yeah. Yeah.

You're the worst at this shit. Yo. Can you tell the name? Can I tell it? Yeah, sure. Real quick. Okay. Was it someone that was married in the band?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was yeah. He was married. Who were they fighting? They were fighting the first keyboard player. That's what they were. Remember, it was the first keyboard player and his black girl friend. And, yeah, versus the new one and his gangster wife. All right, I'm done.

And Moni, sorry, he was getting in love. He was giving love. I'm so sorry. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Whoa. Whoa. Yeah.

I did not know this. Yeah. Okay. Revelations. You got to have a. True. True. Truth story.

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