The Questlove Show - QLS Classic: Ty Dolla $ign

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

Singer, songwriter and producer Ty Dolla $ign shares some of his words of wisdom and talks growing up in the L.A. music scene, his creative process and working with everyone from Babyface and Skrillex to up-and-comer Tish Hyman. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Questlove Supreme. Questlove, we have Team Supreme here. Are we still here? Yeah, we're still here. We cut down a little bit. Diet Supreme. We got Diet Team Supreme. We got a post-holiday Supreme.

We got Fon Ticcolo in the house. What's up, man? All right. How you doing? We have a liar. It's all of you. Hey y'all. And, uh, Sugar Steve.

I never miss a show. This is true. That is true. That is true. Steve, he's the only one of us that's perfect attendance other than Quisloa. No, I've not, I wasn't technically there for the Roots picnic. Oh, I mean, I'm amazing. You showed up a little bit in and out.

Yeah, I was, you know, I showed up, but, you know, you do have perfect. Attendance is everything. Yeah, okay. Well, I'll make sure you get the goal. It's the first step in everything is showing out. That's very true. So what we learned at elementary school. That's where you hit me with this.

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot. Forgive me, y'all. That's what we learned in the entry school. That's me, baby. Anyway, today. I love this show already. Today we got singer-songwriter, producer, Los Angeles,

still Los Angeles name, correct? Yes. Okay. Is everything fine, you know, because I think. I mean, there's a big fire going on right now. Right, I'm saying it's... Some of the homies have had to evacuate. but um are you

are you fine at the moment yeah I'm fine okay my life is everything is incredible yeah okay good just want to make you the lineage royalty we have a Todd Dallison in the house today

he's going to talk about his life journey for making the underground mix tapes to singing over some of the notable producers that we all love on the show Matt Lib black milk Dilla even even with Sarah I created a partner

is one of my Oh my God, it's almost 10 years for them. Really? That's almost half old school. When something's not old, is it a classic now? Yeah, I guess 10 years. 15 years is old school. Like the Neptunes are old school now.

But you know what, though, the way music moves now, like five years is damnity old school. I mean, it's... We probably got to ask the youngest one in the room about that. Would you say, Todd, what's old school? Man, the way my little homies is talking three years is old school. Hey, that sounds about right. True.

Anyway, yo. You're like, you're the old. G, homie. And right now he's here promoting his latest effort, Beach House 3. And we'd like to welcome Ty Dahlissau, on the Questlox.

Yeah. Happy to be here. Happy to be in all of your presence. Thanks for coming, man. We're happy to happy. We're happy to happy. For sure. So yeah, Beach House 3 is out.

One of my favorite projects up to date. I got John Mera on my project, man. That's like a big life goal for me. one of my favorite musicians out there you know on my next project I'm gonna have Questlove you feel me putting that absolutely why not

you don't have to put it out all I do is work I'm down we only work one well you came on the show once what like 2013 I think yeah yeah you came through that was the first time

he'd been on national TV on Fallon remember that was your first time see it's Kismet y'all supposed to be together yeah man we're addicted to work time to getting that lab though

True. So you're, all right, so you were born in Los Angeles, correct? I was born in Los Angeles, raised in Los Angeles. I'm not like, like, when people come to L.A. and they have, like, bad things to say about L.A. I feel like, you know what? Y'all have been, like, on the other side of Wilshire, like, meaning Hollywood and, like, you know,

like where all the out-of-towners be at. Like, I'm talking about the other side of Wilshire, like the real L.A. That's where I'm from, you know. So it's a good place. Like Inglewood. Like South Central, like Midtown, like Inglewood,

like Compton, like Long Beach. So what do you, what would you consider? West Adams. What would you consider Pasadena, Altadena? That's like.

That's, I mean, there's some homies from over there too. You know, you got a, you got a Pasadena guy in the, in the booth right now.

My security brown. Okay. You feel me? I'm quasi-passadena. Yeah. I probably did like two or three years. Pasadena's lines a kid. Ain't no hood passes, though.

Well, I was also three, so it's not much I could do. He was Gucci. I think you needed it at that point. No, so it's if, I don't know, like I'm one of these people that, you know, because I'm in the industry and I have a lot of industry peeps. I will say that I think it's almost by default or fashionable for people to sort of disavow or disassociate themselves from L.A. But for me, like, I mean, whatever side you're on,

either the hood side or the Hollywood side or whatever, there's always this thing of like, you know, L.A. is not real, it's superficial, it's fake, and da-da-da-da-da. But, you know, I'll say for myself, L.A. is, like, probably one of four places that I still get excited to go to. You know, like, now that I live in New York, it's like I live here. So the mystery's going of, oh, I'm coming to New York.

That used to be a thing coming from Philly. But for me, I've always loved everything about going to L.A. It never understood people that were sort of like, whatever. Yeah, it depends on where you're from. That's what the song that you did about L.A., that was like the perfect way you describe it. Like the feeling, like everything.

But I think a lot of East Coast people, sometimes they come to L.A. feeling some type of way because it moves slower. It's the opposite. It's kind of like the opposite. It's more laid back. One thing I wanted to ask you is, I was talking, this has been a couple weeks ago, I was talking to Teres Martin,

and he was like, yo man, you got to come to L.A. You got to come out here. Like, the air is different out here. That was his exact quote. He's like, yo, the air is just different out here. You need to come and let's get in. Like, creatively. He's always going to give you one of them famous, you know,

terrorist quotes. One of the legendary quotes. Yo, man, that was his. He was like, yo, the air is different. So, like, creatively, what is it? For you? I mean, for me, it's the air. Like you said, it's just like when I'm here, it's one vibe.

Actually, when I made that song, L.A., it was here. Me and Kedricin, we both did our verses out here. But when you're out there, it's definitely like a different vibe that you get. The beach makes a difference, too. For sure. For sure. Even though all the studios ain't nowhere near the beach. Right.

So what are your views on New York, like when, as an L.A. native, when you're traveling to New York or whatever, do you? It's the same exact feeling that you said, I think, like, I'm excited. I can't wait to get out there and just touch the city and, you know. So you're excited to come feel the energy. Yeah, like 07, 08. I was out here, me and my boy Parker. And, you know, I was, like, in the studios, trying to, you know, see who I can. could get a beat placed on at that time.

I was just doing a lot of beats and I sung and all that, but I wasn't like, it was more so like focusing on beats and all that. And that didn't work out, so I ended up going back to LA. Me and YG linked up, we made it and booted, and then, you know, everything took off from there. So I guess you should be noted that your father is a member of Lakeside.

Yeah. And like just growing up in that, was he, was he an original member in the group? No, he wasn't an original member. He came later. When was his period? All through the 80s, 90s. Okay, okay.

2000s. So around like, I guess when outrageous was. Yeah, that's the best part of the time. Because he was touring. He toured with them. Yeah, he toured with them. Gotcha. Okay.

So were you a backstage kid as far as, like, yeah, for sure. Backstage kids. studio kid. Just describe that period. Like what were you seeing in your formative young years coming up? Young years coming up just

you know, pops, his homies, earth went in fire. Shalimar, all the people from back then. All the show I remember them all. I remember them all. Like, you know, they would come to the house sometimes when they would throw parties whatever.

studios, you know. I remember like when when my homies around me started, you know, smoking weed or whatever, I remembered that smell for when I was young. I'm like, I always thought it was cigarettes because I would see the little roaches, but like, it wasn't.

Yeah, so a lot of that. Did you have, even as a young, as in your young years, like did you have, have any desires to get into music or you're just observing. Yeah, like I was just observing really, but like hearing, like them figure out songs and like, you know, writing songs together

and then me going and touching the piano or touching the guitar and being able to like play that same melody that I just heard by ear. And I was like to start. And once I figured that out, then my pops and then by me an NPC. And then from there, I got to up. in Sonic, TS10, and I learned how to MIDI,

and then I learned the ADATs and all that. Wow. How were you when you started? Like 10. Yeah, I was going to say, that's a little unusual. Yeah. I just wanted a drum set. I didn't want a damn studio equipment.

Look, I always wanted the drum set, but they never would buy me the drum set, I guess, because it would have made too much. Too much. I always know my mom's excuse. So, you know, I wanted to be you, bro. Oh. Because you play, right?

You play drums too. Yeah, I play drums, but not like him, but I play drums, though, for sure. That's actually smart for parents to buy kids, MPCs instead of drum kids, because you can use headphones and stuff and keep it real quiet in the house. See, my parents bought me a drum set

because they wanted to know I was in B basement for a person 24-7. Ah, it was a monitoring. Yes, exactly. It was like I met this other kid, right? His name was Troy, and his dad was in a brother's Johnson, and he knew how to make beats too. Which one?

Which one was his podcast? George Johnson. I know, Troy. Yeah. Yeah. So Troy taught me, like, what to do, you know what I mean? From, like, young. And then after that, it just, we went off.

So growing up, like, because we, these are people that we idolized. Like, is this, I mean, everyone always says, like, oh, you're just dad to me. You're not, like, did you realize that your particular situation was just a little bit different than your peers around the way? or did that not faze you at all? I mean, it's great. Like, everything I know. I'm sorry, how do your friends, at least in that time of your life,

how do they accept your existence? Because you're experiencing things that they don't, you get to meet. Yeah, like people, like, you know, friends from the neighborhood would think it was like cool and all that, but like really, I used to want to keep it separate, so people wouldn't like

I think it's kind of like when my daughter goes through now if I go to her school and she doesn't want me to like get out and you know come get her like that because everybody would be like oh she's a teenager or something right she's 12 now so like

oh my God what's that like it's crazy so you know what I mean and she's in middle school so if I get out then all the kids will come running like oh let me get a picture a tie dollar sign dot or not and then she doesn't

and get to like, you know, be a kid at school. So I never wanted people to, you know, know about that really or like, you know, be around before that. So that's how that was, you know what I'm saying? Well, what kind of car you're pulling up, pulling up to the school? That's right.

You know, I've been blessed. I like to take my driver Matt up there in the suburban. Oh no. That's like the best way. No, the suburban is pretty... He said, I like to take my driver. Yeah, that's pretty regular. I gotta give him respect, you know?

Shout out to Matt. Yeah, you pull up in a fan of some shit and it's like, all right, you're looking for attention. But the suburban is, that's pretty standard. No, having a 12-year-old daughter changes everything. Not even just like that whole aspect. I'm just thinking, it's just in 2017, having a daughter being Todd Dollar sign is like interesting.

You know what I'm saying? Like, is she listening to every word? Yeah, like over the last two years, like then it started getting real like after 10 like where it's like okay she's got the phone I'm like play your music play whatever you want to play just hop in the play put whatever you're listening to on and like I can tell she's like

yeah she's getting there so I'm like wow oh like that song you put out that oh I like that new song oh I like that okay okay so she's aware of what Beat house 3 came and was like all right I'm not gonna like Yeah, that's what I'm saying in the studio. You have like built in A&R though. Yeah, Snapchat like, oh, she has a Snapchat.

Okay, so I got to like, you know. She doesn't have an Insta yet. So I got like, I don't know how much more time I got. That's next year. Yeah, that's 18. 13 years old, yeah. Yeah. You guys would be saying much more dad. Much more.

Tidalah. Radio edits. So like, as a kid. kid. It's going to get better though, I promise you all. Better or better. One thing I would ask you is as a kid, so your pops, he was, he played with Lakeside. Is your mom, does she have any musical talent?

She doesn't do music at all. And then, of course, after Pops and moms broke up, she didn't want me to do music. Grandpops didn't want me to do music. Nobody from that side was like a fan of the music. So, you know, when when life started to happen more, and I started to feel like, you know, I know everything and, you know, I could do everything on my own,

you know, I was like in the back of my grandmother's crib on my dad's side, you know, working. And shout out to her because her birthday's coming up this weekend. And, you know, everybody in the family's texting me. And I even go on Instagram live earlier and one of my cousin gets on there like, yo, are you coming this week? Like, what? Like, it's my grandma on my birthday. You already know I'm going to be there, like the whole family going. She's about to be 92.

too. So you're still close to your family? Hell yeah, man. Is it slightly different, though? It's slightly different for sure. Like, you know, with certain people. But like the real ones, like the immediate family is always regular. What is that adjustment like, though?

New cousins, like, oh. Right. No, but when old cousins get new on you, when old cousins get new on you, you know, that's, you know. Like, how do you, how do you adjust to that? Because that's one of the, I feel like that's one of the hardest transitions that one can go through. When you're like an isolated situation and you get meat or success and then. Yeah.

It's like our success. It's our thing. Right. Yeah. I've learned with like all issues. I like just, if I really, really, you know, mess with you, I'll give you a couple explanations if it takes that many times. And then I just go quiet for a minute and let you figure it out yourself.

And it seems to, it's been working pretty well. They get it. People like end up figuring it out, you know, if it's meant to be. Hey. Tight down the side. That was up. I had to. Sorry, Steve.

I feel a certain way. He's like, I just got this. Damn. Sorry, Steve. Hey, did your mother, when did she turn the cheek and go, you know what, son? you may have something with this. When, you know, I came back at her and asked her.

Exactly, right, right. No, she's always, like, supported me and she just wanted me to figure it out, but it was definitely that time where she was like, yo, so, you know, your video's out, your songs on the radio, but where's the money? That's not like my mother, yes, yes, that's a mother, yes, yes, yes. I just had to keep working harder.

Were you in her? No. But, you know, she was just asking where it is. She just always cares for sure. She wants to make sure I'm on the right path and I'm wasting my time. So I figured it out. And it just took, you know, consistency. And we made it happen.

What was the, how did you and Corey link up? Corey. Me and Corey linked up through this random, dude that I met at the guitar center name, et cetera. And et cetera heard me playing bass, and he was like, yo, I make music too. I got some, I want to play you. And we went outside, and it was like some rap music.

And it was dope. He was from New York. And I told him I'm going to come out here because I met somebody online that I was going to sell a beat to at the time. And I ended up coming out here. I linked up with him. and when I went to his crib, it was in bedside, and Corey was in the living room,

and he was making music on the laptop or whatever at the time, the desktop at the time, and he sounded like Raphael Sadieke a little bit, like I had a little vibe to him, and I'm like, oh, that's kind of crazy. Let's make a song. We end up making like three songs that same day right there, and then we met back up at the Sundance Film Festival in Utah,

because I was like doing some music for some little film at the time. And we end up linking up at this dude Parker's crib, which Parker became my best friend and he still lives with me right now. It's crazy. But me and Corey end up making like a whole little project in a week at this dude Parker's crib. And it was called Ron Bangin' One. Yeah, yeah. And we made Ron Bangin' Two.

end up linking with Will I Am and Timberlake and made a little situation and met all these different people and that's all that did. And then I end up going back to L.A. That's at the time when I was living in New York too. Then I ended up going back in L.A. And, you know, end up going back to my hood. Just, you know, making beats and, you know,

making songs for homies around the neighborhood and my big homie from my hood was like, yo, I'm managing this new little dude, I think you should mess with him. He got confident on lock and all that. I'm like, all right, so I listen to it and it's this like jerk music and it's like, I don't know, bro, like that's not what I'm on, like,

but he's like, bro, I promise you, he brings him to the house and I make this beat and instituted and booty beat. And I had sampled, who was the group called? the uh i can't think of it right now um i just sampled this record my homie corps just pulled it out and like i sampled it and did the little drums and he came in i mean my other cousin tc 4800 little tc that's out there him and nana was like make a song called tuted and booted i'm like what does that mean they like hit it and go i'm like all right so i just come up with the hook and uh yg does

his verse, T.C. does his verse. We make a video with the homie, uh, um, James, right? Uh, James Fonleroy? No, not James Fonleroy. Uh, my other homie James. And right now, James is like an actor and all that, but at that, at the time, like, he was shooting videos and all that. And, uh, like on this old cheap camera. So we went to Doc Waller Beach, shot the video. Uh, it came out, tie dollar sign featuring YG and TC 4800. tooted and boot it. Next thing you know, there was a million views up there in like in a month.

And then Def Jam starts calling and they're like, yo, we wanna sign YG. I'm like, Oh. All right, let's get it. Like, however it's supposed to come, like, let's get it. And of course, they wanted Tudit and Boot it as the single. And I'm like, cool.

So we're gonna do a reshoot of the video, right? It's with Colin Tilley. Who came calling from Def Jam? Do you know? Max Koo. Okay. Yeah. I know Max.

Shout out to Max. So this dude, Colin, Colin Tilley is shooting the videos, like his first video, like, right before he got huge. He's like one of the biggest directors out there now, right? And the video drops, and it says, YG-Tooted and booted.

I am in the video, but it says nothing about Tidea-Dal-Sign, right? So I'm like, all right, cool. Like, it's time to keep on. That's one my mom's talking at like, yeah, she's everywhere. Like, where's the money? Next thing, you know, the guy who I produce with a lot, his name is Jacaso, he ends up getting killed. And when he got killed, that made me just, like, not even want to do beats no more. I was just discouraged from life.

Like, I felt like, why him out of everybody? He was, like, one of the best people I know on Earth. So, you know, YG's doing shows, and he's having shows. and he's having me come through and we started like making money so he's getting 10,000 to come perform at little clubs in L.A. He'll give me $400 for coming to do the hook. He'll get mustard like 400.

400. He'll get me for DJ and Mustard doesn't do beats at this time either. You knew mustard pre-beat? Yeah, he was just like the DJ from, you know, like the little homie that DJed. His uncle, DJT, was the one who, was DJing during our high school period. Like, you know, when I went to Dorsey for a second.

And it's crazy because now, like, you know, his nephew's DJN or whatever. So we have him. And, you know, Giacaso gets killed. They need somebody because like now Dev Jam sign YG and I'm not trying to do the beats no more. And Mustard comes through and he's like, yo, let me get some sounds like, because he's watching me the whole time. And I'm not even like paying attention that he's watching.

What? Yeah. I give him the sounds and he's linked up with this other dude, Mike Free. And he knows how to work reason. So he's teaching muster how to work reason. And then, you know, next thing you know, muster pulls up on me on the bread in 21st. Like a month later, like I'm about to pass you up on these beats.

I'm like, yeah, all right. Yeah, I just got marinade on that. Like, I'm thinking, like, in my head, Because I've only talked to mustard once, but in my head, I'm thinking, like, it's just like Dexter in the lab, like some science lab, like he's going to revolutionize and all this stuff. And you're just like, he just picked it up one day.

Yeah, like, seriously, though, like, I gave him these sounds. And then he made Rack City. And after Rack City, it was like, two chains, I'm different. And it was like YG's whole tape. So those are all your patches? Yeah, man. And my brother made millions off of it and down here.

Rapes. That's great. With the stars on the sillet. Shout out to Mustard, man. It was so good to just see like somebody like go from the guy that's like joking about moms and, you know, shooting dice and just being like a young asshole

and to turn it into like, you know, a super millionaire and like mustard, YG, all of all of us. It's like, we all just like, you know, it's just like, we're in my mom's crib and making songs in that back room and then all of a sudden, like, we're all like, we all got our own cribs, you know? What were y'all using? What was your weapon of choice in terms of production?

What were you using? And I ended up getting all the keyboards. What, whooos to. Which MP? 2000 XL. Aha! Yeah. Yeah, that's when you got in this.

I'm a champion. People still make fun of me for not letting go over that, but I love it so. I love it. And I still use it. You still? Yeah. All right. Hang on a second.

James Poise, you hear that? It's still usable. Anyway, so go out. And what else? Fruity Loops. I like fruity loops now. You still use fruity loops? Yeah, sometimes.

Okay. Like if I'm on the plane and I just have my laptop and I feel like making music and not watching the movie, which. I'm not like a TV movie watcher guy like that unless I'm like... You got to be productive. Yeah. Productive. Wait, so has...

Okay, forgive my ignorance. I would assume that fruity loops has updated since the days of Little Brother, right? I think so. The last time, Ninth... Which I'm a huge... Oh, thank you so much, I appreciate it. Yeah, Knife, he sent me a back... I mean, this has been God.

This was like 2013, 14. He had went back on Free Loops, because for a while, Ninth was using the MP. He left and he went back, he went to the MP. Then he went back to Frutley Loops. And so he had sent me some Frutty Loops batch. And now I think he's strictly on machine. That machine is kind of like what everybody is.

I mean, that's the thing now. Okay. Which is kind of, it emulates the MP a lot, but I think that's what he's on now. But I think, yeah, the interface has updated a lot since 2002. I mean, when we're doing it on a compact. I mean, shit. I would hope the shit didn't upgrade it since then. So you, so in making beats, who were you looking up to when you were, well, first

of all, I got to go back to when you were 10. I was looking up to Dilla. I was looking up to Madlib, E. Swift from the alcoholics. Yes, yes. I was looking up to black milk, Dr. Dre, Das Dillinger. there's so many people man did you ever get to meet any of the people that you idolized to get yeah damn there all of them

except for Madlap I talked to him on the phone and we were supposed to link and then the day came and then he didn't answer that's Otis that's cool no he just he goes yo but I love that dude and I want to work with him one day and like he's probably one of my favorite ever um

who uh like I Yeah, everybody I've been meeting them and it's been a blessing. So you are a real head. Yeah, for sure. To the bone. Yep. Yeah, but I like all kinds of music though, for sure. Like, you know.

I mean, where's your childhood record collection look like? Compared to now, which is more playlist-based. Yeah, everything I said plus, like, you know, the singing is the singing stuff as well. Right. One of my favorite singers ever, Stokely, from In Condition. Still a beast. I like a lot of gospel. I like Kim Burrell.

That's my favorite female singer ever. You sing gospel, right? I played in church. I played bass, and, like, I was learning, watching everybody. Why did you say past tense? What was that that you did, like, on the keys? What was that chord on the organ? Yeah.

then watching the choir director and how they like, you know, come up with these harmonies and give them to people and like that's how like I do my harmonies when I'm singing. Yeah, I think that's really an underrated part about you. I really dig your vocal arrangers, man.

I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I just dope. So I definitely studied like everywhere I went and like picked up something. And all your music, like you're self-taught. Like you never took formal lessons on any of the instruments. No, not really. I did take like a class

in the ninth grade like just piano and it really to me was just like okay now I know how to read a little bit but I can figure it out anyway so it's not gonna really I love your answer when I asked Ty

how many instruments does he play he was like well if it has strings and you know you can play it with some stigs and what was the other one and you said and keys I'm hitting it yeah it's like Prince everything for one wins exactly did you guys ever get to me Because I know he's like one of your...

I shook his hair one time at a party late night in L.A. and then one time I went to the Saturday night live after party with Yeh. And all of a sudden Prince hopped on... You were DJing that night. And all of a sudden Prince hopped on stage. And Taylor Swift, right? What? Not Taylor.

I'm trying to... Who was it? Yikes. I'm trying to. I'm showing my age now. No, it was a lot of Prince parties. It's been too many ago. I know, I know, I know, I know.

Oh, at the 40. You at the 40? Yeah. Is that like the 40 for you? Yeah, we need. Okay. No, no. Saturday Night Live.

Because in my mind, I was like, oh, God, he thinks I'm someone else. I know. But then I was like, wait a minute. This does sound familiar. No, Saturday Night Live had their 40th anniversary. And that's why. Oh, you went to that? Yeah.

You know what's weird? Because the freaking NBA All-Star game was the same day. Yeah. So I had planned on going to the Saturday Night Live 40th anniversary special. Yeah. But I also had to DJ the NBA All-Star thing at New York. So I did like up until halftime I had to DJ something and then run to 30 Rock. So I totally missed the fact that Kanye was the musical guest at SNL 40.

Yeah. He was on his back. I forgot what song he performed. Wolves. Was it, yeah, again, he did wolves. He laid on his back, right? It was like something where he did something where he laid on the ground. Yeah, I came in like right when I was getting done, but I totally forgot that.

So, yeah, that was my only time ever getting to see him perform, but he just got on. I think it was that random or was that plan? Oh, that was super random. Like everything that happened that night. Yeah. I didn't even know that. Yay was that? Yeah.

Oh, damn. We were in there. Okay. People just ghost in and ghost out But no, none of it was planned And um Yeah that that night was super magical Like Prince

Basically Jimmy just said I think Dave was Dave Chappelle Whispered in Jimmy's ear like I think I just saw Prince walked in It was just like I think he just walked in And they willed it And then Prince like floated to the stage He just floated to the stage

He did let's go crazy for Tim minutes and then floated out of there just as quick as he came in. Yeah. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th.

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Because the end-diff joint, like, that's, I mean, I love that record, man. I appreciate it. So chords, my homie, he was like, he played it for me one day, and then I end up meeting them through Steve, Thundercat. And we just went over to the Saura house. That was like up in Silver Lake, and we just vived. And we just kept on making me, like song after song after song, me, Shafi, Taz, Omas.

And they end up using those two. There's many. Those are just the big homies, man. They just taught me a lot. You know what I mean? They took me on my first Europe run. That was how I first met Ye. Was that where they took the picture?

The Paris trip. Yeah. You were there on that? But you wasn't in the picture. I wasn't in the picture, but yeah. And that's crazy, man. There's been a journey out here. I was about to say, you've been in some rooms,

you've been in some situations that make you go. I mean, even though you were born into, you know, musical royalty, at some point you got to look around and go, whoa. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, the thing I know is about your journey, like for you, you say that you were mainly focused on making beats. When did it become clear to you that your singing really was the thing, I guess, that was going to take you over the top?

I just had to get confident in it. That one situation, to get back to it when YG got his first, like, 10 bands and gave me four and gave mustard for and I saw him walk away with the rest of that money. It did something to me you know. I felt like, all right, it's time to like get out here and like figure it out and do my own

artist thing. So I put out the house on the hill, which was my first solo tape and that had this song called All Star where my homie fuego had samples Swedish House Mafia and we flipped it on some like L.A. like drums and, you know, tempo

or whatever. And I did a straight smashed to it and it took off like on the radio stations like from you know the whole California Arizona moving on to Texas and then it got shut down we got sued um for putting it on iTunes without clearing it with Swedish House Mafia which I thought it was clear but somebody lied and you know I was going to say how are you able to move mixtape stuff to mainstream radio level on because already had tutored and booted and already had by this time already had all the DJs now because from to dood it um I'm performing at all the any event that they wanted to whatever we're there like we just pulling up and making everybody who's your

who's your good like when when you when you got a new join that you're ready to yeah put out I mean now it's different because you're an established you know who's the who's the first person for LA, like, who I always tell everyone, like, who changed it for us and, like, who gave us another chance. Because when you look at it, like, after the game, there was no L.A. You know what I'm saying? On radio, period. So, DJ charisma, my home girl out there, she is the one, like, who got, like, everybody's music played. I feel like, shout out to everybody else.

but definitely DJ charisma He's the one who did it for you She's the one who did it for everybody So that's important to you for LA to still have an identity To still have a sound To still have A figurehead representing

Yeah Like I just feel like now You know between At least for my prime era Where it was dangerous Between 9 or 10 No it was like 30 And, you know, it was like east coast, west goes.

You know, and then suddenly, you know, after 2002, just stopped being so regional. And I know that games arrival, yeah, the internet made everything regional or not regional anymore. Erased the lines, yeah. And so, you know, I know that's why the game was really being celebrated because it was just like, okay, we're still, you know, comp, just to still open this motherfucker. But for the generation that you represent. even though you're kind of more like heartwise because you came in so young you're you're ahead on our level but you also represent in the next generation millennials or whatnot like is that still an important

thing to have like yeah i think it's important to be yourself wherever you're from and to definitely represent your sound and your people and like no we're not all the same just because the internet is like, no, like I ain't trying to hear that. Like, if you come from New York, you're supposed to sound like you're from New York. Like, why would you sound like you're from L.A.? Atlanta? Because we all have the internet or Atlanta. Right.

That's corny. I mean, I got a... That's not how it is in the streets. Yeah. I was happy as shit because at least for when you came out, I was shocked that, I mean, your first major single was like 98 beats per minute, which... As a deep, you know, just during the period between like 2006 and kind of now, you know, everything was, you know, trap level, 70 B. PMs and slower. And so I felt like, okay, you're defiantly going against what mainstream expectations are and you're keeping it at that level.

I mean, I'm just at a place where like 95 to 110 BPMs is my own. Like, like cookout jams. Like you get two-step to it. It was actually danceable, you know what I mean? Yeah. That's always been, you know, I guess, like, when you think about the L.A. sound, it would be Dr. Dre quick, you know, when you think about back then, and now for us, you know, we had to, like,

when you're in the, when you go to these L.A. parties, when you go to these, like, I would say one of the things that runs the culture still to this day has always been Tommy the Clown, right? and Tommy the Clown is like this guy that comes through with like this, you know, van or whatever and has speakers on it and these clowns get out and they clown dances like everybody's music. Wait, still? Yeah, still. When did it start?

It started when I was a kid, like, there's always been Tommy the Clown. Going to the wrong parties out there. Yeah. Wait, how did that? That ended up going into the, what do you call that? Crumping. Crumping. Yeah.

And like, they had a movie for it. Yeah, Ray. Rise, rise. Rise. Yeah. And if you pay attention, like, they just speed up everything. And, like, that's the L.A. sound. And then, like, even, like, the Bay, like, their sound is the same thing, like, sped up.

Like, so that's where we come from. There's that music, too, you know? But it must make you proud R&B-wise, because it feels like the West Coast are really taking chances with R&B. It's, you know, between you, Anderson. You mentioned Thundee Cat. Do you feel that? Do you feel like in R&B and soul music that y'all are kind of doing things

a little differently over there and it's working? I feel like we're all doing different things. That's true. Anderson is a movie. Shout out to bro. I'm so proud of him and everything that he's doing

that he's sticking to his stuff. Iman Omari. Yeah, that's my man. I love him. That's my bro. He's sticking to his stuff and like killing it. So many people, man.

So as far as the tag Miguel, shout out to Miguel The album is a movie Yeah So how Okay So for the title R&B

Which Today is so blurred I mean Because you know now Even when Chris Brown is in the news And depends on which news Wire is reporting

Rap star Chris Brown Yeah it'll say Rapper Chris Brown Pop star What I've seen I went to the Knicks Came last night To put rapper

Todd Dollas on on the screen Well that's what I was going to ask Like how because I just feel that black culture has just gotten sort of defaulted into rap culture. Everybody's a rap

Do you feel as though even though your music is as edgy as you know it's so immersed in hip hop but you're clearly singer

like do you still feel like you need to hold that flag for R&B or what it represents or is it just... Yeah, I feel like there's real rappers out here and like they deserve to be called rappers, not me. You know what I'm saying? I don't even deserve to be in that conversation. I sing for sure, for sure.

And I would love if people would just recognize that. But my boy Rosenberg, he told me, he was like, yo, your name is like kind of rapy, bro. Yeah. No, I'm, I'm, I'm real. Oh, I forgot. Yeah, yeah. It is.

And if you just take a picture, you're like, oh, R&B dude, no. He could be, he could be. To popular culture. He could be Dwayne Wiggins 2.0 from Tony. Duques. Yeah, he could. Yeah. What do you say?

I was coming out of the smoke shop the other day. Uh-huh. And this, like, old bald white dude. Like, he's bringing boxes off of a truck. And the trucks are like, this juice. I'm like, yo, what's in there?

Because it says sangria, but it looks like a kid's drink. He was like, no, it is a kid's drink. It's just, that's the company. I'm like, all right. He was like,

you know what? You look like, you look like that star. Like, them guys from the 80s that were singing that they weren't really singing. And he was talking about Millie Vanilli.

Oh. Oh, the great. Oh, the one that's no. That was hilarious. That was hilarious. So I guess they were singers, right?

Yes. Yeah, like, don't look like a singer. Well, were they singers, they weren't really. They weren't singers. They were the singers. No, they were pioneers. They actually put out another. Yeah, man.

And we really gonna talk. They were pioneers like a mother. Millie Vanilli would go off without a hitch today. Like, it would be, yeah, they died for our scene. Yeah, that was the 90s. Yeah, that was the 90s, right? Man. That was the 90s, right, Millie Vanilly?

Yeah, it was the 90s. It's funny, because I was going to ask Ty, since everybody's doing the 90s thing, is this certain groups that you just don't touch? I was thinking Millie Van Nilly was one of those, like music. Like musically, since people are borrowing so much, and, you know, you duet in with Jaguar. You know, it's crazy because, like, I think my old manager Camelowis,

he wrote that song for them. Yeah, he did. We had him on the show. He had him on the show. He told us that whole story. It's crazy. Like, he was like... Full circle.

And the Creed of his girl. And the shit was on TV. The radio came on. He was in bed. Yeah. He was in bed. Yeah. Yeah, so you, like, following up,

well, he was saying about the 90s. So on the, um, I'm tripping. I can't remember the time, but that's the one. You sample only you. Oh, yeah, my new song. Yeah, on the new song.

X featuring YG. Right. Yeah, only you by 112. It was funny. Bongo and Hitmaker, they sent me this song. And the beat, it sounded like, it sounded like mustard did it.

You know what I mean? I'm like, bro, if I want a mustard. I was going to. say wait all right I'm so glad you said that because when I first got it I was waiting for his tag right mm-hmm because usually when I DJed like when I DJed I always go like two counts before mustard on the be-ho and I was looking I'd spent at least three minutes looking for the tag like oh maybe I missed it maybe I missed it and then it just hit me oh maybe he didn't do it yeah man so I'm like you know if I want a mustard beat I go get a mustard beat like I don't want it

but then I end up you know recording to it and I started loving it and then I'm like all right just take off the mustard drums bro like let's just bring back the original joint you know joint and um yeah I'm curious about how because as someone that grew up in the 90s I always thought of the 90s as a era where it's almost kind of like you have had to be there. You know what I mean? Like, I just, like, New Jack swing as much as I loved it,

I didn't think it translated into now. Like, you know what I mean? It just, like, versus, like, the 70s, when cats were sampling 70s shit, I got it. When cats were sampling 80s shit, I got that. But the 90s just seemed like the most unlikely error to be sampled. You too close to it.

Yeah. But, like, y'all were doing it. It's kind of hard to, like, sample it because the swing, that's when they was using that weird as, like you said, the New Jack swing. It's like a little horny bass line. Like, exactly.

So like that is not going to work right now, I don't think. But the hook melodies and like, you know. So that's what is drawing people, drawing your generation to it. Yeah, for sure. Oh, it's the, okay. That explains. The harmonies. I just heard like the Bishon song in my head.

I was like, oh, okay, yes. Okay, I got it now. Yeah, because I heard you, I mean, I was listening to it. And I was like, he's singing over only you. But I'm like, man, like, that's, I never would have thought that that could be reappropriated into now. Yeah. But I mean, but the shit is dope, though.

Somebody will figure it out. I still appreciate the Jaguarious Clambo. Didn't I think? Yeah. I think I read, at one point, I didn't realize this, that were you not almost going to sign with Cheva sounds? At the time, I think,

Dominique Treeneer had a label. He used to manage DeAngelo. or someone associated with Venus Brown was Yeah He was part of that label or whatever Like were you at not At one point in the okay Then it was a rumor

Yeah I was curious to know so I mean because you kind of cover a lot of ground In genres so how did you decide on Well first of how did you in Wizz link up And how did you decide on the label That could say okay, this kid does this, he does this, he does this, he does this, and they were like, okay, we can figure out how to market this.

Because, I mean, you can do R&B, you can do hip-hop, you can do like house or whatever. And for a lot of labels, whereas there's a music fan for us, that's like Wonderland, but for a label, that shit can be a kiss of death. Because they're like, what the fuck do we do with all this? So after the house on the hill, I go to Dev Jam, back to Jeff Jam, right?

And at the time there's Karen Kwok, I think Max Goose just left. So there's Karen Kwok and there's Chris Antiquet, right? And I'll play them my record and... You play them Beach House? Beach House, right, right before I drop it. The first one? Yeah, I mean, House on the Hill, right before I drop it.

And they're like, yo, it's incredible, it's dope. You got some crazy songs, but it's like, yo, you got a house record here. You got, you know, this. you know, slow song. You got this LA song here. You got, it's like you got so many things. Bring me back a project that's just like cohesive, like one thing, you know? So I go and make Beach House One.

But when I make Beach House One, I get cool with this Douchon Barron and Atlantic. And there's this one song that I didn't include on Beach House One. And it was called Fumble. And I end up giving it to. Yeah, Trey Songs. Yeah. And since that song went, and they ended up making a single,

and it ended up going up. Atlantic was like, all right, you know. Who was this guy? Let's talk. So then I had paranoid and, you know, Ornaw and everything went crazy. Beach House 1, Beach House 2. Okay, so Beach House 1, Wiz calls,

he DMs me on the Twitter, and he's like, mind you already met him through Terrace Martin during the, after the time, quarter days, but back to making beats, trying to figure it out. He hits me on the DM on Twitter, and he's like, yo, we've been playing Beach House One on this tour, the whole tour, me and the guys, when I get back to Ellie, let's work. He ends up coming back, and we make, like, 11 songs in one night, and...

24 hours? Yeah, like, less than 24 hours. How do you work that test? Because, like, literally, literally, like, if you have a, like, a pack right? right now in your laptop. And we put on the mic, I'm gonna just lay hook after hook after hook after hook after hook after hook after hook after hook after. Then we're gonna come back.

I'm gonna see which one is worthy of a verse. You know, and then. So that's your songwriting process? Yeah. You'll listen to the beat and then you'll concentrate on what the hook is first. Yeah, hook or verse. Like whatever just comes out. Like just put it on.

I'm gonna go in there and just, you know, blaze up and figure it out. And then some are great. summer good and worthy of like selling to a feature and summer. So give me an example for song like Paranoid. Yeah. You're first hearing the beat and you're just at a live mic. To be honest, paranoid, that was like the third song I made on that beat.

I knew that beat was so hard and like certain times you'll make a song that's just like whatever, but you feel like that beat is so crazy that I need to give it another, you know, another swing. and then I was like the third one I did on that and I just knew it. It felt like... The beat felt epic enough that you had to put... Yeah, and like when I... When that hook came,

it reminded me of when I was a kid and I first heard, like, poison by BBB. I felt like I tapped into the... This is hard, but I'm singing. You know what I'm saying? Like, it didn't feel R&B. It didn't feel like you had to feel... Like how when you say you look at me

and it's like, yo, you look this. way but you're supposed to be R&B. Like I felt like, yeah, I can look like this and still sing and like, be me. By the way, that was them, not me. I see whatever you want to be black man. Oh, words. I would just,

so how long were you let the, how many minutes or days or whatever, will you let time go by before you're just like it's not coming to me? Let me go to the next track and then. As soon as it's just, as soon as it's not coming,

then I go to the next track. That doesn't mean it's like not a good track. It's just not speaking to you. Just not right at that second. It just wasn't meant to be. That's what I feel like. Are we doing it to order? I just have such a horses in the stable question.

Horses in the stable. Yes. Okay. That's a title. I know. I'm a little. Oh, oh, you mean the song. Okay.

Yeah, the title. It's metaphorically. metaphorically yeah I just thought you were speaking I know sometimes cars to get mad we break the lineage I know we're going beach house want to keep going but I were having a casual conversation amongst friends because I was thinking at a random thought about horses in the stable

and coming up with that and I was thinking to myself on the back of the 12 year old daughter conversation I was like in 2018 yeah when horses in the stable still exist so when I've recorded it still now the song is so great

You know what? My home girl, Tish Hyman, came at the end of the album cycle of Free T.C. And she was like, I got this song. I wrote it for you. And I think, like, you should record it. And I'm like, yo, Tish, I'm done. That's right.

That's her song. Yeah, I'm like, I'm done. But, like, let me hear it. And she played it. And it was so hard that they're mixing in the other room. And I'm like, you know what? Just get me a mic in here. And I go on the vocal booth set up my laptop

and like the little pro tools and recorded. it and like added my own little thing to it and it was it. I'm like I'm putting it on the album just like clear it. Get it cleared. Like, however. And like they got it cleared. And it's one of my favorite songs. I think the people love it.

But guess what? I walk in the main meeting at Atlantic to where it's like the three bosses are Craig Calman, Julie, Julie, and Kaiser. So Julie, mm-hmm. What the fuck is that song? Hey, are you? Are you referring to women? There's horses.

Listen. Because if you don't know the song, it's like horses in a stable, but I can't ride. But you can't ride. I'm like, listen to it again. It's not like as bad as you think it is. Like, da-da-da-da-da. But shout out to Julie. And, you know, Della is not a misogynist.

Dalla does not hate women. Like, I love women and like I love my daughter. It's weird. Do you have a lot of classes with Julie? Julie's world famous for classes. No, just for those. For that, you know, vulgarity. But it's a weird time though, right?

because it's kind of like, you're right. Like, I'm like, especially now, because I'm like an independent woman and everything, but I still like a good, you know, NWA, you know, don't matter, just don't bite it or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just a weird.

That's my reference in my head. Sorry. The I roll of Fon Ticcolo, like, that's the song. That's right. I'm thinking of bitching these shit. Yeah, and I'm like, any song, but that's all.

You bit some of diggers for life. That was my, that was my go-to. That was your, it was all good. Okay. Okay. The world's biggest dick. I think it's just like a, But you still won't be able to make your music.

Like our songs like just on some, you know, that's just how we be talking. It's nothing that bad. I know. But it is kind of bad. Exactly. Once you learn. Because it is what it is culture.

It's kind of like it might be ending. It is what it is once you learn. Like, but a lot of people don't know. Yeah. Yeah, it is ending. So that's cool. I'm happy for the next chapter. Yeah.

Beach House 4. Right. Yeah. My sister. Man, please. don't go Hotef home Beach House 4 please like keep it ratchet. Hotep Donaldson. I don't like that.

You were clevered with Tish on the Stilling Joint, too. I've mentioned it in my role call, but how did you record that? Because the vocals on it, it sounds like it was separate. Yeah, or, I don't know if it was separate. It sounded like you were just in an open room and it's just... There's this one studio in Burbank called Wayman Sound. Don't steal my studio. Anyway.

Wait, who owns Wayman? I can't remember. I think I've been at the studio. It's right there on, like, 1908, Burbank. I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I want to get paid. But, like, it's a solo, like, one-man studio. Only one artist can be in there at a time,

because there's only one room. And I like that because certain studios in L.A., like, people will find out you there. Because me, I don't even put my name on the door anymore. It just says private session, but people will find out you in there and just feel entitled. Like, oh, that's something.

Are they just show up? Yeah, like I hate that. So now, you know, I have to pay for a security guard to be out there, which is booth. Like, I don't have to spend that extra money for security to stand on here. I'm not Michael. Right, right.

Yeah, not. Yeah, but I have to, because I like my privacy when I'm working so I can get things done, you know what I'm saying? And is that you playing acoustic on that one? Um, nah, that was Titch's homeboy who, you know, she originally made that song with it. Okay. And is that you on that?

Or is that baby face playing acoustic on the solid bass. You play bass on solid. Yeah. Gotcha. I'll let our audience know that I'm kind of considering. I mean, Tish is definitely going to play a major, major role in this next room. Okay. Tish?

The ladies is coming up. Oh, that's amazing. It's our time. It's awesome. I mean, we did a good. I mean, we had like a mammoth five-day, like, 24-hour street, just sleepover at Electric Lady Studios, like, some time last year in which... How many songs are on a hard drive?

Like, at least 300. Wow. Yeah, like 125, like, full songs. Yeah, I mean, I just mean sketches or whatever. Yeah, another 200 sketches or something. Yeah, so it's like 300 total, but, I mean, Tish is definitely going to... you know she will be a major

presence I love her I love this great human being great soul all that can we talk about you asking you mentioned him but you kind of did it fast

and we actually interviewed baby face and I asked him about doing a song with you because I just thought whoa I was surprised not you know just not super surprised but a pleasantly surprised on your side how do you tell the story of that

and where you're scared or you just was like I want baby face and that's what it is Yo, man, the story of tying babyface is super legend. Hit it. You showed up unannounced as to. No, I came in. It was already set up.

He's there by himself, him and his other boy, and then his other boy leaves, and we're chilling. Like, he's just playing guitar riffs. I'm like, that's dope. Just freestyle in. And who else is in there with me? I think my assistant at the time or whatever. So, no, Nate, Nate.

my homie Nate, Nate 3D. So Nate's rolling up for me. And I'm just freestyle in the shit. He passes me the joint. I light it. All of a sudden, me and FACE were just vibed. Okay, that's the one. That's the one right there.

He starts to play solid. And I start coming up with the hook. And all of a sudden, his boy walks in. He's like, yo, yo, yo, yeah, yeah. Face don't want you to smoke. Da-la-da-da. He was like, you know, just come out here, come out here. I'm like, wait a minute.

I'm sitting here in the middle. I'm sitting here in the man's face, and he didn't say nothing. So I'm like, how the fuck did he, like, signal this dude? I felt like he had, like, telepathic powers or something to where he, like, sit on his left shoulder. With a bat sign and, like, called him in there

and he told me he don't smoke. But that was cool, you know, his face, like, all respect. I just, like, had a non-smoking session, and the song came out cool. And he had nothing but great things to say about you when we interviewed it. Yeah, he was amazing. And then, like, he showed up to the video,

in a stretch limo. What was this? Old school? Yeah, like. And y'all was in the desert? No, we was like by the beach somewhere like off in Ventura County. But like that was his only requirement. Just send him, you know, a stress limo.

Wow. Straight 80s. And it was never any thought to have him sing at all because I always thought that was interesting too. I wanted him to but he felt like, I think he did backgrounds on there. He did. But he just wanted me to just do my thing. He was like, yo, that's it.

And I couldn't believe he was, like, loving my lines. And he recorded me and everything. Ah, that's dope. I'm like trying to get him the vocal produce me and making a big face song. You know what I'm saying? But he was just loving everything I did. So we got back in to work on Beach House 3. I didn't end up using that song.

But we're going to get back in again. I love working with him. He loves working with me. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep. That's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th.

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follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. How did the Jagged Ed session come about? Jacket Ed's, I've known Jagged Eds through

my homie Poon. Poon Daddy? Yeah, Poon Daddy. Oh my God. Chris Lover, Lover, and Poon Daddy. You from Atlanta? I went to Kyle to Atlanta.

That's what's up. She's from every city on the East Coast somehow. It's crazy. Yeah. So once I got that song done, there was just like one line that I said about Jagged Edge. And I wanted them on the song. So I called him just like to see if we can make it happen.

And next thing you know they sent it back like A-S. was pumped. All their kids was like, Daddy, you better. Yeah. Wow. I once read a friend of mine, she's interviewed a couple times,

Rebecca Hathcote, she's out, right, L.A. And I read the joint you did with her, I guess it's maybe like a years ago, but you were talking about how you understand your pops more now that you have a daughter. Yeah.

What's that journey been like for you? Like your relationship with your dad as a kid and versus now So just imagine, like, say if your parents break up and moms is always, like, talking down, like, you know, everything wrong about them and it just make you hate them more and more and more and more and more. And then I have a daughter and then the difference between me and her mother, like, and everything she's saying. And I'm sure she's saying, like, all kind of crazy stuff. But, like, yet I've been able to hold a, you know, cool relationship with my daughter. But just seeing that, I figured out like, oh, okay, this is why I was like, you know, listening to her.

It wasn't really like how it was between us. So that's why I said that. But I was wrong. And my pops definitely is the reason why I'm here today. And shout out to my pops. I couldn't have done it without you. What's your relationship like now? We're great.

He's always, you know, put me on to different things he's into. and I'm putting him onto all the new stuff. And any questions about, you know, his, you know, the old stuff, he can always be right there to answer. Like the other day I was looking for that tonight is the night that you made me, Betty Wright. Yeah. And I couldn't figure out who it was and called him, like,

who's that song with that, uh, uh, uh, uh. He's like, no, what is that singing? I'm like, you know, when it'll be like, uh, uh, good love. Right, right, right. Like, oh, Betty Wright. Like, see, so Pops is always there, like, for those moments and for, you know, just being a dad. On your records, you got T.C. So, just to clarify, we were speaking offline, like, before.

So, little T.C., that's your cousin that is with you now. And then Big T.C., that's your brother that's locked up. He's on, well, he's on campaign. And he's on free T.C. as well. And that's him singing. Yeah. How, so is he, first of all, is he your older brother or younger brother? Younger.

He's younger. Yeah. Did y'all, I don't know when he got like that, how did y'all ever clabbed when he was out? Yeah. We always like just sung around the house and like recorded songs together and like just tried to, you know, made groups. He would have his thing. I would have my thing. And, you know, when my parents broke up, he went his way.

I went my way. And it's like it's definitely important who you hang around, man, because I felt like if he would have been hanging around the people, I was hanging around, and I would have hanged around the people he was hanging around, it might have been different to me, you know? No, because he's a, I mean, I really like his voice. Super talented. Y'all sound like brothers.

Like, he sounds like you, but y'all, it's dope. Like, it's, y'all sound different like each other. He might be better than me, man. Shout out to bro. See, my shit is getting worse. before it's getting better It's like the people got a curse Can't nobody stay together

I watch him get my people down Bless we're killing off each other No Ain't no justice for the brothers No no See the rail I be hot in this He's fighting a life sins For something that he didn't do

So with free TC If anything You know we rose awareness for sure around the world for the social injustice and everything that's going on. And like I said, I took every bit of the money I made for that project and put it back into his case. So God willing, you know, we're going to get some results real soon. Deloque, who was also featured on Free T.C.

He was right next, you know, he was in the cell with my brother. And he's out now. He's out here with us. I started my label to Movement, and I got Deloke. I got T.C. I got 24 hours. I got Joe Moses. I got Tish and we are here.

So the No Justice record was that in the autobiograph? Is that like what happened with what he's singing and what you're singing? Yeah. We definitely spoke up on it. Yeah, I mean, I know you have to be sensitive about what you can say,

but I was listening to it. I was like, hold up, dude, nah, do you niggas sound like they're telling the truth? It don't sound like just a song. You know what I mean? I'm like, it sounds real. Yeah, man. It was crazy.

Like once, I feel like once they get on you, they just be on you. And like, they don't want to look stupid for being on. You still figure out a way to like just make it solid, you know, without even being solid. And he got, you know, putting the twist. But like I said, we're working on it and God willing, it's going to happen. I swear we're working on it. That song is everything. And Free TC went gold finally.

So shout out to Team Darling, everybody that streamed it and bought it. And hopefully. And purchase. We're going to free T-C. Yeah, man. That's the most important part. Running a team. Now, actually, I want to bring this back to Sarah.

Because I'll say that for me, one of the major, most major disappointments I've ever had was watching their situation implode. Yeah. Because for me. I always felt as though tribes, people that move, people that move together can get to their destination faster than just individual artists. Yeah. And if you look at the history, especially with hip hop,

tribes move together. In other words, I mean, Wu-Tang Clan, you have to associate it with the individual artist. Methamah, Red Man, goes crazy. The Rizzo, the Jizzle, the Iraq. Yeah, right. all of them as individual artists moving as a unit. And even for people that are not part of a movement necessarily,

like you look at Puff's area. You might call the Jiggy era or whatever, but you still think of flossy rappers. You think of J. You think of Puff. Mace. Fossi, Kim, like, and they all move together. The same with Native Tungs, which was groups of groups, tribe, De La Sol, Jungle Brothers.

And so when Saurah came along, especially with them and their association with Jay Davy Georgia yeah with Georgia Ann and all that stuff I was like I was just listening to Georgia like all morning she's amazing man yeah and it's like for me I was so

elated because I was just like great like someone gets the whole like gathering other tribes together and and move it along and then like I mean I have my thoughts on why I mean I'm not you know like my fear was that because when I saw their

approach I was like yo they're so fresh but I also knew you know like post J there's well swagger jacking sort of became legal in terms of I mean you can say swaggerjack or whatever but like where you just drink someone's milkshake and you know they fresh let me let me see what they got going on. And then, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, totally. And for me,

I was like, and I told them, I said, yo, just I want you all to concentrate. A lot of people going to look at y'all like, yo, y'all, the new thing out, I want to be down,

I wouldn't be down. And I was like, just ignore it. Get to the goal post first and then start your associations and that stuff. Bill wide before you build high.

And then it's kind of when Yey came along. I was afraid. I was like, oh, man, I'm afraid. and I called what happened I called what happened and it's like they got excited

and then And that album set for three fucking years Yeah I mean I can say the same also With with with Well what would have been the odd Future movement and that whole thing So Watching that situation

And implode First of all how Did that affect you really Or was it just like Oh well that didn't weren't Let me move on And you know start my own thing.

Like, how do you keep your tribe and your family together and working and active? You see, like, I've been through many tribes, man. I've been through many tribes and I had to just keep on working when other people, like, give up and feel like, you know what, I put my all into this. I'm not about to do it again. Like, I still have some more, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I just found, like, the right tribe, like the right team.

And like that's important. No, because I mean, your stuff, man, like, one thing that I was going to ask you was just like with the time Corey stuff, with that situation not working out, I know a lot of cats that would have called it quits right then. Like, because y'all were making some cool shit. And a lot of times the thing that I want people just, I guess, kind of understand about your story. Like, and a big reason why we want to get you on the show is because I think like a lot of people don't really know it. Like they just see you as like the hit maker that where you are now. but they really don't know your grind. And like I remember first time I played,

I played and if for like a friend of mine and I'm like, yo, you know who that is, right? And he's like, I'm like, yo, that's Todd Dawson. No, it ain't no, it ain't no, it's not. I'm like, no, that's Todd. That was before he was who he is, but this has been a process, you know what I'm saying? It's been a grind.

Jesus Christ. It's really been a grind. So how did you not get discouraged to, because I know people now that even on their fifth attempt at climbing a mountain, they can't. You know what I fucked up? Because, like, I put so much time into, like, doing music and learning music and only caring about music, that that's, like, what I knew how to do. So if I didn't do this, then it was like, all right, okay, I'm selling weed and I'm doing all that. But, like, this doesn't really make me happy.

I really have to kick it around these weirdos. Like, you know, so I just stuck to this. And then once, once YG's thing started taking off, that was like so inspiring. And then like, all right, I don't want to make beats anymore. Jakaazzo died. Then mustard started taking off. And that was so inspiring.

I was like, oh, shit, we could do this. Like, it was timing. Like, I just came in at the right time. And, you know. So technically, all right, just treat me like a five-year-old with this question. Was, I'm la'i-a in the show. I'm lair. No, but in my head, like, I thought that mustard was starting a crest of a new movement.

Yeah. But is he still rolling with the original cast of characters? that came in the door with him, with YG, with you and anyone else that was associated with all of his sonic assault of 2013 coming in the door. Like, are you still going to work, continue to? Yeah, I think, like, the sonics are changing

and, like, everything is, you know, mustard got his, whatever he's doing, YG, you know, he's got 400, mustard's 10 summers, I got the movement. And we come together in his 400 and summer is the movement. We're going to work. YG and must have working right now.

I just sent YG some new music. When I was out in Dubai, like, two weeks ago, me and Neil linked up, and we just, like, made songs for a week. Oh, wow. And we sent YG something. What's your creative presence? Do you write and record every day? Is it just kind of when you feel it, how do it?

Like, whenever I see something like this, I get excited, man. Yeah. Like. The room of the people. The room, the people, everything. Like, it's like, this is a couple million dollars right here, you know. Well, besides that, like, that's great.

He wasn't like, oh, man, I could just, we look at it like, oh, man. Right, right. We're back again. Nah, man. You do most of your recording still at the crib. Yeah. What's your setup at the crib? Your home setup, yeah.

Home setup is, the setups's everywhere. So now, like I finally bought a drum set and like I got it fully miced and I got a baby grand and it's fully miced and oh wow I've been buying little drums from everywhere I go

I just came back from Kenya I wanted to bring something back You were performing in Kenya or just visiting? Yeah I went to night Robbie Kenya Can I tell you all the like Live Nation is really

planning their feet in the African market now so like I'm wondering why they've been so late but it's cool you mean the world been so late no why they've been so late on bringing me there because i don't know i had that many fans like it was like 5,000 people out there going nuts wow was this like initially i mean there's always been a desire for artists to go over there but you would have to have a lot of money like there was a point where i think like when miseducation

was really popping like Lauren and the roots were going to tour africa like in 99-2000 whatever but because there wasn't a live nation there's not a promoter there with real money yeah yeah but there's a lot of funny money over there something happened

it's a oil take it right it was like a lot of scammage going on let's just be a PC but send me a social security number I'm in Nigeria and Prince if I can tell you like the six close

but those cigar moments we had with Africa but then like Suddenly, I guess, like, 2009, like, all of a sudden, like, Buster was constantly going to Africa. I'm like, what you know that we don't know? And suddenly, like, Live Nation has reps over there. Yeah, Deca Beckett. So now, yeah, like Africa is now an option for artists to go to now. I better been employing people over there.

That's dope. It was like the best energy ever. Have you done South Africa yet? I haven't. Oh, man. I know they want it. So I'll be out there soon. Y'all don't trip.

No, you'll kill it over there. They'll love you. That's crazy. We're going to Lagos and March. Uh-oh. Kenya and Nigeria, they're different. Yeah, you got to go visit the shrine. If you go to Lagos, you got to go to Fayla's shrine.

Like, it's still very active and still a musical, spiritual experience. Are you Fahilah familiar? Couti. Yeah. I just wanted to hear you said. I knew you were. What's your mic of choice, like, at the crib? What mic you like to use?

I have a C-800. A Sony joint? Yeah. Gotcha. My voice is like hell of bottom, heavy, so that brings the brightness out. But I have every mic. I got the Normans just in case whoever comes over. I'm a gearhead for show.

Okay. Then I got the old way of pro tools where everybody feels like you need the full rack. Then I have the laptop with the duet and I have the quartet. Like what I like to record on the quick way because you get the same you just take it to the big studio and put it whatever you want to put on it you know That's about it when do you think you mentioned earlier 20 basses eight guitars Oh wow acoustics yeah yeah we can have fun man all right bro I want to buy a rose next I don't have one Yeah I'm sorry buying the rose that's that's so crazy because like you're moving like all my homies that the keyboard players, they swear about, like, all the virtual

entries now. Yeah, I'm getting a Kronos. Like, I just got a Kronos. I can't wait. Yeah, like, they, I was watching a video with a Fred, God, I'm Fred, Greg Philling Games, and he was playing, it was some new virtual joint, and he says, that's like his main thing now. Like, it's the roads,

like they, you can't tell a difference. What's so dope is that the patches on these keyboards now are song titles. I saw you, I saw it on the IG. story. So, but yesterday, I'm still, this is, this is four weeks after I did that IG story, like the song titles are endless.

Like, I was only in one, uh, what do you call it? One channel. Uh-huh. I didn't realize that it's letters A through G. I was only in the letter A. Using that. Oh, shit. So yesterday I was in C and it was like, I mean, they had the funky, they literally had

funky worm, Chris, I'm sorry. They called it. They called a jump. They called Chris Cross Jump Patch. But literally G thing But matching it Matching it no for no I mean it makes it will put

Programmers out Well not that programmers like Stevie Wonder's guys Are Seas some Marguliffe Yeah it's not like they're in business To program anymore But now it's like there's literally no excuse For you to not find the song

You just type in the song title And you know what it is You got your patches I was reading that you were saying We're working on Beach House 3 there was a lot of records you had to turn down in order to get it. And I was curious to know how do you

how do you determine what is for you versus what if for someone else? Or like how do you make that determination of this song, this feature is worth my time versus you know what? Fuck that. I'm gonna do this shit for me.

It's just all in how it makes me feel at the time and what I'm on. And for Beach House 3, I started with message in a bottle, which is the last song, which a lot of the homies be like, yo, you tapped into the Thai and Corey vibes. Thanks, man. So anyway, I started with that,

so I felt like everything had to be as good as that. And I knew I wanted to do a lot more singing so I could like get this whole the rapper Tidea Dala sign thing, you know, away from me. What came next? After message in a bottle we did, so am I. Okay. So am I famous and side effects.

That's all my homie's poo bear. Yeah, poo bear from 1500. No, he's not 1,500. He's just like solo, but he's amazing. I've known him for a while. He's been in the game for a minute as well. He wrote Peaches and Cream for 112 back of the day. Ah, okay.

And like he also wrote, um, Justin Bieber's verse on Despacito. Oh, God. He's good. Yeah. He's good for a minute. Yeah. Wow.

So shout out to Poobert. What was the difference between the, like, the campaign and beach outs? Because at first, campaign was a mixtape, and then Atlantic put it out. Like, how do you differentiate between what's a tape and what's an official album? I would have loved it to count as an album. Because that's some of them, I feel. favorite shit is on campaign. I appreciate it, but I guess I didn't do my business right at the time.

I'm learning. Teachers, okay. You have to, like, go through the album cycle with the lawyers and all that before you can't just give them a record and be like, this is an album, whatever. All right, cool. So you basically said here, and they were like, nope, mixtape. Yeah, like, because I wanted to drop it immediately. And, like, if you want to drop it immediately, you have to do the mixed tape.

They know. Yeah, like it just couldn't get cleared in time or whatever the case. So, you know, it came out as a tape and still had campaign on it and Zaddy and, you know, some songs that people love. So shout out everybody that stream campaign. But does that also mean that you get to control your mixtapes? Like, do they own the master to the mixtape or is it just like, like, like, you? Like how is that? I've never released a mixtape moment.

Wow, that's fascinating. Maybe it's time. That's a different era. It's just, yeah. Well, that's the movement. Yeah. Yeah, it is.

But I meant, like, do you get to own your masters and everything if it's a mixtape? Yeah. Okay. But they'll promote it for you. Yeah. Just so that.

Okay, so it's sort of like them handing out the flyer at the end of the night. Right, right. Helping you out. I see that. So by now, I imagine that you're a wish, for working producers, musicians,

and artists is kind of being chopped down, right? Because you just said, you walked in here and you were like, should I got John Mayer this album? Yeah. I mean, you got John Mayer, you got Skrillex, you got future, you got everybody, like you got baby face, so let's... Is it anybody left?

Yeah, who's left? Yeah, I want to love with Kit Cuddy. I want to work with y'all too. You haven't done that with Cuddy? That's true. Okay, yeah. Yeah. That seems like a no-brainer.

We'll get together soon. There's a lot of people I still want to work with. Are there any other, the jagged edges type of people that you want to work with? Yeah, like old school. Like, 90s, whatever, yeah. Yeah, you know, the song would just have to come up first. Then you hear it and feel it and feel it and get it done. You would say that.

Me and Charlie Wilson had a song too that could have went on Beach House 3, but the song is amazing. We'll see. We'll see what happens with it. with you consider here first. Ty, would you consider doing any Yiddish folk songs on Beach House for? I don't think I'm going to make a Beach House for actually. I'm going to, you know, think of a new title. Yeah, what are the obsession with the houses?

Yeah, I think the Beach House is, you're a lot closer to it now. I'd imagine that you were on one. Yeah. I got a Long Beach Beach House, but like it's not the one that I imagine it. I'm going to still like. Where's the dream? I started to get the dream one. It could probably be in, you know, Malibu or Star Island and Miami or, you know.

There's going to be many beach houses, you know, the way my life is looking. I know that's right. Yeah, say that, my name. Yeah. Words of wisdom. Time to get some. That shit was wise. That shit was wise.

When do you think you, when do you think you gained? confidence as a singer because you say it early, you know, you weren't really confident in it. I gained confidence when I seen YG walk away with the rest of my bread. Have you talked about this yet? Yeah, we talked about it. I said it a couple times.

You know that motivated me, man. He says you got one more time to mention that in an interview. Yeah, well, for sure. That will definitely change you, man, when you see as possible, like when you guys have just been working in the back, you know, of grandma's crib and then all of a sudden you can go get paid for real

people want to pay for this? Let's go get it then. That's really words of wisdom. It really is, hell yeah. You see a niggas, you walk over $400, he's walking off with $10,000. Yeah, I'd be a singing ass. That's right.

That's right, about . We thank you for coming on the show today, man. And bringing your guitar. It's a pleasure. Thank you. It's random. Can you bring that guitar everywhere? This is not mine.

I actually stole it from the back. And just been like... Oh, you hear that James. Make sure he put it back. No, man, we thank you very much. On behalf of Sugar's Eve. Oh, hold up, damn. We forgot.

Real quick, we could... Master teacher. Shit. We can't forget that. The original State Woke. Original State Woke. How did that come about? We were just

biving over at Shabbeek's House, Georgia. That's a gang of people on that song. Georgia, Bolao. A whole family. Erica Badu. Everybody. It was just a vibe. She just happened to be there.

Yeah. And I just did like me and Corey did one part on there. Wow. And, you know, Georgia did a part and this person did a part. This person did a part. And then you have Master Teacher, Stay Woke. Which album is that on? That's on America.

America. That's what I thought. Yeah. Can we officially say that she admitted that term, I stay woke? Be careful. That was the first place I, that's the first place I ever heard it. Yeah. I'm just saying Donald Glover did.

I'm going to just say that. Oh, hell no. No, no, no. He definitely got, okay. Damn. I think she might have, yeah, she might have called out. I don't even want to say he bidded. He might have just found out.

But, like, when he found out, it was a great thing. For those that listened to that song. Shout to him for that song. We've been saying it. That has nothing to do with staying woke. No. I hate when people do that. I didn't.

Thank you. Not you. I'm just saying like when artists do that and be like, oh, you bit me. Like, you know, it's up in the air. I didn't have like many songs, like when I made saved. Like Jay Cole had a song like about the same thing. Right.

Right. Right. And I'm like, nah. I mean, I put out another song where I did this. Orna. Orna. Yeah, that was another one. A couple of nars.

Yeah. I didn't try to say people bit me. I just had the best or not. And then. Yeah. be definitive or not. Thank you. It's been many songs like that.

Me and Chris Brown and who else, we put out the Meek Mill with the Tony, Tony, Tony Sample. And there was like some other song that had the Tony Tony Sample. I heard they thought we copied them or whatever. Come on, man.

Amen. Like, there's only 12 notes on the... It's you who does it loudest. Yeah. It's a quiet storm in every city. Right. But no, man, just thank you for coming. And just, I mean, for us to sit here, I just want to say I'm a fan and I really,

just to have watched your journey and where you started or you've taken a man. That's crazy because I'm a big fan of you, like. Thank you, brother. Like, in my old whip, right? I had, you know how we all had CD cases and shit? Like the big giant one. And I had all your joints, all your joints, right?

And then somebody broke in my shit and took all of my CDs and I just never went and got CDs. Well, I have the cases still at the crib, but the actual CDs were in that book. And, like, it just pisses me off every time I look at the cases. You just remind me of the late 90s early arts

where you had to have, like, the travel cases. Yeah, yeah, the big case lodger's on it. And a car with, like, 50 CD changes in the back. Oh, yeah. They would have it in the trunk. Yeah, in the trunk. Yeah, in the trunk. Yeah, in the trunk.

Oh, Jesus, man. That was the original on-demand. Yeah, it was. Anyway, on behalf of Sugar Steve Fontigolo, it's laia, and unpaid and boss bill. Any last word? The absent bills.

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