The Questlove Show - Questlove Show Mini: An In-Studio Catch-Up

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

This mini-episode of The Questlove Show features Ahmir, Open Mike Eagle, and producer Cousin Jake reflecting on Mike’s 2025 long-form QLS conversation. Open Mike Eagle shares that he’s just finished a new album, talks about his listening habits (ranging from British bands to YouTube talk shows) and how being embedded in the industry pushes him away from rap in his leisure time. They dig into live performance philosophy—testing unreleased songs on tour, reading crowd energy without begging for participation, and the Roots’ continuous, no-song-ending show structure. The convo closes with Mike’s existing and upcoming podcasts (“What Had Happened Was,” “Past Due,” and a new, working-titled “The Album That Changed My Life”).See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you've been super supportive of. You guys did a whole season of a podcast together. You guys spoke for like two hours, but I think. No, I spoke for two hours. Full disclosure, I mean, the comments on that, and I'm the guy that has to read the hate mail, the love mail, the suggestion. I felt like I failed you all.

Oh, no. That was the ishtar of, uh. No way. No way it was the it's time. They went in on me. No, you know, and I explained to people that y'all just caught me. a very dark week. I was kind of dealing with the DeAngelo situation

at the time that I couldn't share. As I remember it, that taped not, it didn't run terribly long after we taped, but I was getting ready for it, and that was the day you released your Instagram, like public statement, and you did a series of videos, and then I always imagine, like, you turn your phone off.

So you sat down, and you were a phenomenal listener about that, and you spoke about how life almost sent you down a psychology path. Right. Yeah. And I mean, what's interesting is the comments,

yes, some people said more than in other episodes, Yo, Quest Love, man. Let the guy talk. I know. But, you know, that was 35%

65% where people like this is an evolved high frequency conversation between two men, two artists. Nevertheless, we wanted to continue that here

with kind of a special announcement we can make in a few minutes. But, you know, Mike, how are you? I'm chilling. You know, I'm good.

I'm happy to be. You know, happy to be here. Working always, making stuff all the time. What are you working on now? Ooh, I did just, I just finished another album. Like, I just finished the master. I got the masters approved this week. So I'm excited about that.

I envy that. Well, I mean, you know, it's just me, really. So I don't have as many things to oversee and monitor and tweak as you. You know, y'all got a lot of things going on over there. So who could blame me for it? taking a little longer than... I'm an overthink. We already established.

I'm the overthinking and you're the heart guy and I'm trying to get to that place. Overtink, too, but it's just... It's a lot easier when I'm overthinking by myself. It's a lot easier, honestly. I don't have to have as many conversations. Well, I'm very excited because I've definitely decided that you are probably the voice in my head. You're the voice in my hip-hop head.

Like, every line you say, I'm like, yeah, that's how I feel. That's how I feel, too. It's like the last time I did that was probably watching. and love on the spectrum. Hey. I do that too of that show. Damn, that's me too. You know, so.

Yeah, I want to even ask you about that. I mean, you know, our purpose here was to continue some of that discussion. And I'm sitting in because you're, I'm a voice that folks might hear and maybe see in this case on some of these many episodes. But I just want to know what your daily listening diet is like. So on this album, that's interesting. You got Michigan J. Wonder. That's the song I keep coming back to. Okay.

And you've got the, you know, the homage to boot camp click. in there. Right. Yeah. And I'm like, man, this guy listens. Like, I just imagine you really latching on to, I'm not going to say deep cuts, but I'm just curious what your music diet is like. That's really interesting. Like, right now, I'm in a phase of listening to this band called XTC. You know you familiar with XTC, you must make XTC? They've oranges and lemons help me. See? They were my label mates at Geffen. So, again, we would raid the closets at Geffen. Hey, what's that over there? Uh-huh. Have Canvas bags and then run the bleaker bobs hopefully get $40.50 for it.

$40.50 in 1999. Oh, you can go to me. Did you peel the stickers off? At least the promo that was so on. Oh, they didn't care bleak of bobs at all. Well, their version of it was put the little whole punch or the saw. Yeah, the whole punch. Yeah.

But oftentimes. But even then, like, you know, Sonic Youth admitted. And Weezer admitted they did the same thing. Yeah. So you're getting which album in particular? So Mummer is the one. I've been listening to over and over again. Okay.

And I don't know if there's a connection to the Mummers parade or anything like that. I hope not. I mean, it might. I don't know. Who knows? But that's the one I've been running over and over again. I always listen to this stuff when I'm writing. Like, we're not writing rap, but like writing TV film stuff.

I listen to them a lot. Like, they put me in the right zone. So I've been bumping Mummer over and over again. Orangeons and Lemons. Gosh, just a few records by them that I can't remember the name to right now. Okay. But you still create that like CD experience of like I got one in the car. Like I'm going to keep this album heavy rotation. Yeah. I mean, and I listen to a lot. You know, I'm listening to streaming, but I'm typically listening by an album. Like I'll put on an XTC album. I put on a stereo lab album. Like, you know, like that's typically my consumption is album based. When I'm in the mood to listen to an album, most of the time, I'm listening to people talk on YouTube. That's what I'm listening to the majority of the time. What do you listen to?

Oh, I listen to people talk about anything that I'm in. interested in, whether it's music, professional wrestling, comic books, TV film, conspiracy theories. You know, things are getting real real these days out here with the government. So, like, I'm doing a lot of deep dives along with people who I'm not sure if they're experts or not, but they sound real good. But they're talking like they know what they're talking about. Can you listen to somebody that you dislike or disagree with for a long period of time? Not disagree with, no. I can listen to somebody I dislike, but I can't necessarily.

spend a long time. Like the type of attention, I give a YouTube video. If they keep saying stuff I disagree with, I start talking back out loud, like, in my home. Your inner Eric Benet is about to start. Yeah, like, for real. And I can't. I want to get Eric Menet on QLS, man, because this guy, I love him, man.

I love this Eric Breda. Brittany's on the phone right now trying to pull it up. I know that I'm probably still dipping my toe into the world of YouTube. You know, because like all the kids of all the roots kids, the way that YouTube consumes their lives. And, you know, these are like, some of them are watching actual, like, well, whatever the black nerd version of Jonathan Limpinski from Jerry McGuire. You know, like, birds and beef, there's no fear. Like, all these nerdy roots kids are like showing me some sort of scientific thing that they saw on YouTube. I'm purposely not jumping into the whole of YouTube the way that I should

because I'm afraid you guys will never see me together. I mean, well, what do you listen to? I mean, you're listening to music primarily. Do you listen to talk? Do you listen to people? You listen to podcasts? Do you want to know, okay, let me. I did this.

I'm, I'm, I'm scared. I'm going to give you, no, and I'm, we can only play 10 seconds of it if it's. I'm being mindful. Right. Well, here's the thing, though. I'm being highly mindful of what I do listen to. You've been playing some amazing music while we've been on this trip. You were playing Art Farmer yesterday.

I was like, damn. Yeah. I called it Freddie Hubbard. I tend to gravitate towards the opposite of what I'm going through right now creatively. All right. So to give you a good example, like I will listen to this for like, like the second I get home, this is the noise that is in my house. for like the next six, seven hours.

Are you meditating? I just have to be in a meditative state because the level of what I'm juggling right now, like as I'm speaking, I'm juggling at least six projects. So I just pretty much listen to tones. I don't listen to music much anymore because of what I do for a living,

I have to get that out my system. That's precisely the reason why I'm typically not listening to a lot of rap music these days because that's primarily what I'm making, primarily what I'm discussing when I'm making my own YouTube videos. And so, like, there's so much that happens in my mind when I hear a rap song or a rap album. It's almost got nothing to do with the music.

I'm thinking about who this is, where they're from, what label they're on, how this music got to me. There's so much going on in my mind because I'm so embedded in the industry, even though, you know, obviously not at the major label level, but it's just such a part of my life that it gets in the way of my enjoyment of it. typically I have to put on genres far away from what I do. So you just said you completed an album. I'm very curious. And I know very soon you go overseas for a tour run. I'm always fascinated with this with comedians of like putting new songs in their set.

Will you perform songs that aren't out yet for your audience? Yeah, I think I'm going to start that process this time because I want to get used to playing them because I find a different relationship to songs when I start playing them. So I don't want the first time that I play these songs to be when it's the release party, you know. So I want to get used to seeing how some of them feel. Right. And will you, how much does the crowd dictate what you think of that song? Are you able to just?

Probably more than they should. Probably. Probably more than they should. If they have a bad reaction or something, I'm going to think about that for a good long time. Wait, how do you know they have a bad reaction? If they don't. If they're indifferent? If they're indifferent, if they don't release energy at the time when I'm,

I feel like that should happen in the song. Somebody say ho, crickets. I mean, you know. My version of that, which is probably saying something a little bit, a little less traditional. Well, no, no, no. I feel like, okay, whenever I'm on a Zoom, do you know about the Macbeth curse? No. Okay.

If you are in a theater, you are to never, ever say the word Macbeth. Okay. It's a centuries-long kind of owning, right? Yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, if you go to a Broadway play in New York, when the theater's empty, they purposely leave a single, a lamp with no shade and a single light in the middle of the theater to sort of thwart off the spirits of the curse or whatever. Matter of fact, the night of the slap, the first thing that Chris Rock says when he walks on stage is, hey, Denzel Washington. I just want to congratulate you on your Oscar nominating term in Macbeth. And we all laughed like, ah, who's going?

And then you saw it happen five minutes later. So what happens if you're doing a production of Macbeth in the theater? Like, what happens to? That's a great question. I think there is some sort of exemption there, but you're to never, ever say the words McBeth inside of a theater or else it'll be a curse. And so, okay, now I just did it. I fell down a rabbit hole and forgot why I brought this up.

So I'm about a Zoom call you were saying. Oh, okay. So my version of that on a Zoom call is people will tend to say, and, you know, I do a lot of pitches on Zoom, they will say, well, everybody's excited. So, yeah, we'll reconvene next week and da-da-da-da. Everybody's excited. A project will fall apart or never fall through. Literally everybody's excited is the version of so how about those Mets?

Yeah, no, it's terrible. So I feel like somebody say ho and whose side is liver. I still see older. That's rough. That's rough. I don't want to see it. I'm serious. I've seen many of my 90s contemporaries still do the whole, you know, say fuck this side.

Say fuck that side. Like, yeah, all the side things. People in the crowd are like, why are we fighting? Right. So, like, what is your version of engagement where you know they're rocking with you? Because even, like, the eight-mile thing, I think, is kind of, or, you know, like the whole. Yeah, I don't, I mean, I have one song where I do a hands-up thing, but it comes at the very end of my set. And the song is sort of built around it in a way where it makes a logical sense to do.

It's not just like a random thing. You're an asshole if you don't do it. I mean, it's, yeah. It's like I'm taking a survey. You know what I'm saying? And by that point, people are either with it what I'm doing or they're not. So typically, you know, get a good amount of hands at that point. But I don't want to be asking for hands the whole time.

I don't want to be asking for noise. To me, the thing is to like ask for those things without asking for. Because to me, the death nail is to be looking like I'm seeking their approval. That to me is like, if I give them the sense that I need them to do anything, then I've already lost. This is why, to this day, the roots have been doing shows for 31 years, and we've never once ended a song. Right. Right. There it is. Our show is like a seg from beginning to end. I don't know why. It's just the idea of like, bruh!

You the same way? You know what? I think ideally there's a version of my show that's like that, but I've never actually taken the time to put all the interstitial people. together. So I have like chunks of show where like two or three songs kind of run into each other and then I sort of stopped down, do maybe a little banter and then start the next chunk. Does your set, you know, I know every, every leg is different, but does your set change much night to night? Not a whole lot. I mean, it changes a lot tour to tour, but night to night it doesn't change that much. Interesting. And then what becomes of like neighborhood gods unlimited

now that it's no longer the youngest born. I mean about to be. Well, it's still will be. Yeah, it still is. It still will be. What's your relationship? Because I think you made this point when you were on, you know, this season earlier last year of like every album is a different conversation piece for you. And it's a different theme. And you figure out what the theme is as you work on the album. How does the relationship change when the next album's out to the past? I think, you know, it is an interesting question.

I'm not, you know, able to say much about what this next album is. And I'm not asking. But it's okay. I think it's an interesting thing you bring up because. You completed it, though, right? It's over, yeah. But it's, you know, I'm not the only stakeholder in this situation. So I like to coordinate with folks when we, you know, when we make announcements and things.

But this album is like a, it's basically like a breakup album. So it's a conversation. Pass the divorce album, already? Pass the divorce album. There's a new one? There's a new one. Oh, damn it. But that was five years ago.

That was six years ago. Oh, damn. So a whole other thing stopped and started in between. Some more Black Mirror episodes? I mean, it's my. more life ruin and that's for sure. And not necessarily black mirror episodes, but

but yeah. Two here my dears in a canon. Yeah, there it is. And the thing about If you do a third one, you're the problem. I mean, I think the thesis of both of these projects is it's me.

Am I the problem? Right. No, there's no question. But the thing about the anime trauma and divorce album, the one I released in 2020 after my divorce is that because it was a pandemic, I didn't tour that album. So I had,

have worked those songs into live performances after the world reopened. But this will be the first time where I'm like, okay, this project is centered around a very specific thing. How do I strike the balance of having this conversation and also working in my old stuff? All right. So this is a question I'm dying to know. All right. So when Will Smith wrote his book, I asked him the process of like, you're really putting a lot out there. And a lot of your stories have to do with people in your life. Did you have to go? He says, yes.

He had a whole weekend where he invited everybody over. And he read them the entire book over that three-day period. Wow. And if there was an objection or whatever, people took a note. And then he did a one-on-one to say, okay, like, you know, chapter seven, you mentioned da-da-da-da-da. So he had to get their blessings. Is that the same for you or?

No, because, you know, in a book, you kind of got to say what happened, right? I'm making songs. I'm not saying what happened. I'm saying how I feel about what happened. And I don't necessarily have to clear that with anybody. Do you play it for them first? Just, hell no. So do you know what your X, Y's reaction was to the album?

I told her that I made a divorce album, and I told her what it was titled. and I told her that I didn't put any details of anything in it. And she said she was okay with that. And that's all the permission I needed. Does she listen to your music? She used to. These days, I couldn't blame her for not paying attention to the wrongs. Couldn't blame her at all.

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Yeah, no, right? Yeah, Paul. Yeah, Paul. Look at us, Triggled Croix. One of my favorite songs, the last, I guess. I guess it's 10 years. I was just looking to check the date, but is admitting the endorphin addiction. That was my jump off on Open Mike Eagle. It's funny enough, like, I knew people that knew you and had worked with you and always said amazing things about your humanity and your artistry. When I heard that song, that was the one that like, ugh, and that whole album, just curious if you could just like unpack that.

Because I think for a lot of listeners of this platform, that is a great entry point. Huh. Okay. You know, like, that was a song where I'm, or an album, a moment in my life, but a song. in particular where I'm sort of realizing, as many of us were, what role the phone was playing in my life. So there's check to check, which is another song that album about how I'm checking my phone all the time. And I sort of got at this underlying thing of like, oh, I'm getting these little endorphin packets from all of these apps, from waiting on these emails that are supposed to be able to. Yeah, like that. And it was sort of just wrestling with that. And it was sort of just wrestling with that. Like what, what hole am I trying to fill with these little energy injections that come from

these interactions with people in the internet, you know, and the whole song kind of comes from that point. Interesting. I got to ask, like, what's your relationship with your phone now? You know, I'm still psychologically part cyborg. You know, I am, you know, a part of my mind is always thinking about what's going on on the internet and what is being directed towards me at all times. What I'm noticing more these days and it's kind of getting at what I was talking about with YouTube, how I'm like watching the world sort of move to TikTokification and the short video.

And I just like, I can't do it. I can't like I can't do the video casino or you don't know what's coming next. Like, and I see a lot of people getting their dopamine hits that way. But that don't work for me. Like, I need to choose. I need to be sitting in a conversation for 8, 10, 20 minutes. Like, that's my relationship to this content that we're all consuming. And I'm watching the world go this other way.

And I'm like, okay, this is, this is interesting. Are you still a call me type versus a text me type? No, never call me. Never ever call me. No, never call me. Are you a funny? Yeah. What's camera?

Like, when people call me, My first... It's violence. It is a violent act. I literally say, are you 50 years old? Like, why are you calling me? But unfortunately, their answer is, Amir, you know I'm 53. Well, then there you go.

And I'm like, dog, like, stop. Call me first. Yeah, man. Oh, God. Yeah, no, never. I hate it. I hate it so much. Well, I know I'm so thrilled that your voice is going to be joining us.

I mean, I know we spoke about it at the end of the episode that ran last year. But are you in a position to talk a little more about what you have brewing and why this ecosystem really aligns itself? I mean, yeah. So we're starting a podcast. You don't need to whisper. Me and a producer, but it's important. That's his voice. You know, I'm just bringing it, making people lean into this part.

You know what I'm saying? Starting a podcast with you all's network. Is there a name to this network? Is it a network? Do we have a network? Is it a network? We don't have a name. You have a name?

Yeah. We'll think of a name. Okay. Quest Love umbrella. Nah, I don't want any self-promotion. No more self-promotion. I'll think of something. Whatever this unnamed enterprise that y'all have here is.

Let's just think of it now. That's on you. Acme. There we go. But I'm starting a podcast. There's a working title for which is the album to change my life. That might change. But we're going to be talking to luminaries in the, in the,

the culture and all walks of life about the album that did that for them. And we're going to be bringing in people who worked on those projects to have a real in-depth conversation. It's sort of, I think, interest-wise and unpacking music, it aligns perfectly with this platform. And it's sort of an extension of my podcast, what had happened was where I talked to a person about their project. Now we're getting to unpack other people's favorites and hopefully getting some insight

into how those projects were made. I'm not going to ask you what, but while we've been with a lot of people the last few days, just coming in and out while we've been recording here in L.A., more than one person said they hope for more of what had happened was.

Will that canon continue in it? Oh, yeah. I'm taping the next season now. Wonderful. Can I see your phone, by the way, and the contacts on it? I'll tell you all off, Mike. When does it come?

That's, I mean, I'm talking to a very busy person as I obviously am inclined to do, it's talking to very busy people. So it's taken some time. So I can't necessarily project when it will happen, when it'll be in the can. Hopefully this summer.

Nice. Hopefully this summer. Best news ever gotten. Yeah. No, because truly that was, you always joke about people making bread during the pandemic learning how to. That was my favorite thing during the pandemic.

I know it started right before, but like. I think we taped it, most of it the year before, but it started. wearing right in the pandemic. Okay. It was that. It was the Jordan Bulls thing. Oh, yeah.

Last dance. Joe Exotic. You know, those were my three. Tiger King. And then lastly, I just wanted to say to you, too, and I encourage everyone that loves our podcast, since we're talking about watching things on YouTube, past due. That is what I listen to when I prepare dinner. Awesome.

I mean, that could be rough dinner making listening. I hope you're not crying in your pasta. Some days, I'm like, is this the last? I'm going to eat, you know. And, you know, that podcast is a labor of love for sure. But for people who don't know, that's a podcast where we talk to creatives about how they're navigating this economy. And for most of us, it is more difficult, you know, when you get into real conversations

with folks, they're having a lot of harder times than they put out there publicly. And we really get knee deep into those conversations on Past Dew. I really admired when you put it on the camera on yourselves or put the mic on yourselves and just like open the books of the show and talk to you. about things. I like, you know, from being somebody who's, you know, four or five years in the podcast space, that was a lot. And it's so cool. And your first question, I just encourage everyone, since the first question is often, what is your first musical memory on Questlove Supreme and in the Questlove show? Your first question, your guess, is outstanding. I encourage people to listen.

Did you want me to tell them what the first question is? Yeah, go ahead, please. The first question, and we're going to ask you, Jake. Oh, you don't have to answer. I'm filing taxes tomorrow. But the first question is, and I'm not seriously asking you to answer, is when's the last time you were worried about covering your monthly expenses? And that opens up every conversation we have on that show. Damn. So I won't be asking you anytime. Dude, even, here's the thing.

Like, I always felt, you know, once you jump in a pool of a dream, that becomes, like, I'll put it this way. There's a well-established artist that we've all known and loved. And somehow I was privy to how the sausage is made as far as expenses and whatnot. And what I learned was, now this person to me was like, you know, he's a figure that we all know to be immersed in money. But the whole Andre 3000 and check to check thing comes up. And even for that person, someone told me that. the true sign of success, at least in that sort of money-grabbing way that hip-hop has always been, is if you stop what you're doing right now, how long could you sustain your life?

And for most people that are in that place, like living the way they live without adjusting, you know, five to ten years if you're lucky. But for a lot of us, like, you know, I'm, this is the reason why I want to be. work so much is I'm seven weeks. Like if everything was stopped right now, I could still live this way just for seven weeks. And then that's when the knock starts. So, you know, I'm not at a place where, you know, back in the day, it was Robin Peter Paypal. Hey, I need more DJ gigs. I need more DJ gigs. I need more DJ gigs. But no, it's still a monthly, not nightmare. but a monthly thought of, you know what?

Can I still keep this going? That, that you just expressed, that gets at the reason why we do that show because we've had all sorts of people who are actors, comedians, musicians, writers, people that people know. And we're often surprised how much economic insecurity is at the top of people's minds.

You leave every episode, I feel like, feeling a lot closer in a different way than just like seeing an interview show, too. You get that person. Absolutely. So check out that podcast. Please come back for this podcast. Our Questlove Show mini episodes have just got a significant upgrade.

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