The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: 2022 Year End Review with Lil Rel

Episode Date: December 28, 2022

Questlove Supreme honors tradition with a casual discussion about Team Supreme's personal journeys over 2022. Comedian and actor Lil Rel joins the discussion to reflect on the year and talk about his ...newest special, I Said It, Y'all Thinkin' It. Although this one may seem lighthearted, it contains some powerful reflections.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. 2%. That's the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter. And on my podcast, 2%. I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange, modern world. Put yourself through some hardships and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Listen to 2%. That's TWO percent on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio. Why is Fante's room so blue? Oh, you can hear me. Yeah, I try to give y'all some ambiance, man. It's the end of the year special. I like it.
Starting point is 00:00:55 You know, I'll sex it up a little bit. I feel like you're doing some, like, DNA fingerprinting off to the side or something. Nah, I'm actually just opening logic. Or some handwriting analysis. Either way, it's the right lighting for it. Well, I'm really happy to see all you guys. It's probably to you just a bit a while. Sorry, what did you know working on, man?
Starting point is 00:01:16 I made a Broadway show. And I was in the pits of Broadway. It showed them. Now, are we just reporting right now? I'll start recording that. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, you know, if you're a fan of the show, then the year-end special shouldn't be a shock to you.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Where we just, we keep it casual. No grandiose introduction, no, you know, we're just talking. So it's like you guys are just eavesdropping into our conversation. When we kind of just open the door of what unpaid bill has been doing lately, you know, you've been the one going out and getting cigarettes unpaid bill. I did. I bought a whole carton. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:00 It's been a minute. So talk about what you're doing. I saw a little preview of it when you guys came to. visit the Tonight Show. Can I assume that when and Juliet, which is the name of your Broadway play, am I assuming that it's the Romeo and Juliet told through the music of Max Martin?
Starting point is 00:02:22 Yeah, it's like a retelling of Romeo and Juliet. So Romeo doesn't die and Julia, I'm not gonna spoil or alert it. Juliet doesn't die, nobody dies, and they come back, and Romeo comes back to life. And yeah, and it's all the music of Max Martin. So it's like the weekend and Backstreet boys and in sync and
Starting point is 00:02:37 nobody dies so they get married and they live happily ever after that's what I don't want to ruin it all you got to come see it oh yeah okay it's still drama okay it's still drama which reminds me we should have a quest of Supreme visits the Broadway because that's never happened and would be hilarious at some point whenever Fonte decides to leave the house
Starting point is 00:02:54 you know what it is Bill you know what it will I left the house I came for I came for Atlanta I'm down to do it I always support you bro I show up well yes New York trip 2022 was a better year because Fonte came out the house. I had a whole conversation with somebody this weekend about Fonte coming out the house.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Man, the things that changed, I got to tell you. I see. So, Sugar Steve, how was your 2022? It was pretty good, you know, getting back to normal. Did a lot of records for JMI. We just dropped Sasha Berliner. She's a vibraphone player. And we got David Murray album coming out.
Starting point is 00:03:35 and lagie lund is coming out he's a norwegian guitar player we got a three-plier solo piano ray angry box set coming out soon wow uh we've got a mike mitchell uh album coming out solo drums mike mitchell you know what i want from ray angry can you challenge ray angry to do one album with just his right hand like Ravel but with the right hand not the left yeah basically I want to see Ray can actually I want to see how creative Ray gets when you put a handicap corner
Starting point is 00:04:14 you know yeah we'll call it righty what about the what's the project call three guys walk into a yeah and we recorded an album with Quest and Ray and David Murray and we're actually calling that plum, P-L-U-M-B,
Starting point is 00:04:35 which means to dig deep. And it's going to be another four-platter box set. Actually, the box is going to be plum-colored velvet. Is it just like free and groovy, or is there charts? What is it? What are we to find out what my projects call? Well, we called one of the songs, Pleadians.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Pleadians. Yeah. No, that was, I, yeah, I suggested we call it three Pleadians walk into a bar, but yeah, this, this makes sense. Yeah. But I wanted, I wanted a Pleiadian angle only because I feel like David Murray and Ray Angry are, you know, outer space. Probably, yeah. Yeah, really the, the only two. Context clues, context clues.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Context clues. What if you don't know, pleading, pleadians is a, it's a galaxy, right? Yeah. Thank you. It's like the highest level of the galaxy. It's said that they're watching us like when you get inspiration or
Starting point is 00:05:36 ideas like, oh, I should do that. Like that's that's your antenna. They're suggesting it to you. In answering Bill's question, I think it was Bill. It was mostly improvised. There's one or two songs that came in
Starting point is 00:05:52 with charts, but the rest of it was wholly improvised. That's cool. The last four songs we did were kind of amazing. I like those. I kind of hope that you sequence it backwards. Like the last song we did was awesome and, you know, and work your way backwards. That's my suggestion. But Laya.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah, what's up? How was your 2020? You look glowing right now. Is this because we know that we're... I mean, there's no Lenny... There's no Lennon Craveteer. No, but I know, you know, at 2022 brought us to the screen, you know, so people are watching. And your shit always looks so, you know, moist and glowy.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Are people, well, I just got offstage. So whenever, you know, I literally just got done the Tonight Show. Oh, okay. Oh, that's big. Well, no, 2020 was good for me. Actually, it's not makeup. I mean, I watched my face. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:06:48 You eat the good vegetables. You do the right things. You drinks the water. Well, that too. But, I mean, like, you know, we have the, our barber and our, you know, you get cuts every day. Like there's there's there's the fun part of doing late night television where you get fresh cuts in You know yeah yeah yeah get shaped up and all that stuff so anyway what how is you how is your your life you've not talked about comedy are you still having a dream of comedy I don't do that somebody just did that to me the other day because they were listening to like a classic QLS episode and they were like why yeah how's your comedy doing I was like oh I started work oh I was
Starting point is 00:07:27 going to talk about how happy I was about 2022 so you brought that up. But I'm sorry. That's all right. No, no, no. I do need to work on that. And that's what it is. I just have three amazing podcasts. And they take some time. And they've been great this year. This year. And also this year was the first time I did my own voicing an animated series. Thanks to Bill Sherman over there. That was pretty cool. Bill Sherman. Look out. Yes. And this was the year that I had my first surgery and my whole damn life and got 28 damn objects taking out my body and now my stomach is flatter and I'm healthier because of it. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Wow. Congratulations. Bratigolo. Bro, y'all, y'all have been killing. Aren't they busy? I don't think we've done a proper episode since the return of Sherman Showcase. That's true. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:18 But y'all really. It's on the airplane. Oh, my God. Oh, it's on airplane? Yes. I was watching on an airplane. Yes. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Like, this is one of the gems. Well, first of all, you know, now that we have a visual, as you guys can see, I think almost every episode of Quest Love Supreme always has an episode of Soul Train playing around the background. Wow, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I wish you, this is the first time you showed that. Well, yeah, you know, I think I was playing ignorant, not knowing that these episodes were actually going on the air. How are our numbers looking? Are we, like, in competition with a million dollars with the game now? We're still at our soft launch stage, first of all, so those who know, no. I mean, I feel like cousin Jake should say the official words of that.
Starting point is 00:09:14 But yeah, we're still like, but we're doing really good for our soft launching. Shout out to DJ drama because he's been posting a lot from that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Cool. Those Atlanta episodes.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I'm sorry. But that's it. Yeah. If you don't know, Sherman Showcase show created by a former Tonight Show writer's Bashir Sally O'Dine and Diallo-Riddle.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Former guests of Questlove Supreme. Yeah, former guests of Questleaf Supreme. But really utilizing the versatile talents of our own Fontsigolo and also give it a shout out to Zoe. Both of you all did. most of the music or all the music, like, what's the process for this? We did pretty much most of them for this.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I mean, we've done most for the last, like, two seasons. But generally how it goes, they'll send us, Diallo will send me like a sheet of just kind of ideas or like prompts that they might have, whatever. And, you know, it might be, you know, 30 joints. And of that 30, you know, me and Zoe sit down and we'll just kind of figure out the ones that are most interesting to us. and it's like, okay, I like this one,
Starting point is 00:10:26 or okay, we've never done this kind of song before, let's try this, or like, we've never done an Afrobeat song, let's try that. Right. That's crazy. You know what I'm saying? And then we just kind of just sit down and just go from there. And we just map it out and just do them. And I try to do, when I do them, I do the vocal.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I'll do like the demo vocal, but it's really just to give the actors an idea of what to do. But nine times out of ten, they end up keeping my demo vocal on the joint. So the one that I just put up, you'll keep flowing, that was a part. Dog. Dog. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:02 I put on Zosjo's joy. Like, I noticed it said 96, but y'all went straight 91 with that joy. Like, that is my favorite, that's my favorite joy, man. Thank you, man. Thank you. Yeah, that one was super, that one was fun. That was, we started, we did that one during COVID. Well, shit, not that COVID over, but we did it early in the pandemic when COVID first hit.
Starting point is 00:11:22 And so normally when I'm doing the stuff for Sherman's, I have the homies come over and just do it. You know, if I need female vocals or whatever, I just have like, you know, the homies pull up. If I need crowd, we'll all shout or whatever. But for COVID, we, you know, everyone was locked down. Wait, I thought all those voices, all those voices rhyming weren't you? Yeah, they were me, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Okay, okay, okay. And that's why, because I couldn't call nobody. But they distorted or were you just doing voices? It was, it was me just doing different voices. So I would just take the mic, and I would put the mic, like, in the middle of the room and just kind of, I put cue cards down because I'm imagining, like, all right, if it's four dudes in a group or five dudes in a group, they're probably standing around the mic. So I just did put cue cards in like a semicircle around the joint. And every cue car, I just did a different voice and then, like, panned it and, you know, did all that to make it sound like a group of joint. Yeah, I legit thought that, you know, y'all were, it was so good.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I actually started listening to Trends of Culture album again. Off and on. All right. Yeah, though I walk through the Valley of the Skins. Wait, they're from North Carolina, right? No, no, no, no. That was Jack Fu. Yvonne from North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:12:34 South of Yachton. But the culture, they were, I don't remember they were from. But, yeah, so. Well, they better be from New York. Right, right. But that was it, man. So that's normally how it goes. It just starts with the idea we'll sit down and me and Zoh, bang it out.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And I do the references. and, you know, kind of, you know, write, rearrange the songs by neat to whatever, and that's it. Shout out to you and Zoe, because both of y'all, too, is shared, like, the LBs this year, crazy, right? That's what I heard, that Zoe came down crazy. Yeah, Zoh came down crazy. Yeah, he came down crazy. He's been doing real good. Shout to Zoh.
Starting point is 00:13:07 And shout to Bashian Diallo, man, just for letting us do us. You know, I mean, they really are just guys that, you know, they cut the check and get out of the way. And that's, like, my favorite way to create. they really just yes sir cut the check cut the check get out of way so boss how about your 2022 it's too surreal to talk about man because it started crazy like it really it really feels like all that happened like three years ago four years ago yeah it's not even eight months ago so And at, you know, the fact that something weird happens like every five days that I'm just on a Steph Curry half court shot streak right now. So I will say though that probably of everything that you could imagine that happened to me or that could happen to a person has happened to me.
Starting point is 00:14:11 but I will probably say that, you know, and I'm really guarded and careful on how I don't want to be typecast as this guy or whatever. But, you know, I'll say before that my thing was like, you know, I'm the guy that's waiting for the light at the end of the tunnel. The most important thing that happened in 2022 is like, I found myself. You know, and that whole like, yeah, man, you know, I'm trying to, trying to learn to love myself better. whatever. It's happening now. Like, if it really happened in September
Starting point is 00:14:45 and where, like, I'm owning the shit, I feel like a new person, and, like, I'm generally happy. And not, like,
Starting point is 00:14:55 I feel guilty about being happy, like, enthusiastically happy. So, and I know it's weird to sort of declare that in some of the worst times in recent memory, but I really can't help. Like,
Starting point is 00:15:10 I feel optimistic and happy. What brought that about? How did you arrive at that place? Yeah. You know, I'll say like a month. It was the polar opposite of it, maybe three weeks after the Oscars. And then I got COVID.
Starting point is 00:15:28 So there was like a five week period where the exact opposite happened. And, you know, and it's not even, it has nothing to do with the slap. I think just in general, like this is how it wasn't what my prom night. Like, like any big event that you just, you just like have high expectations for, it happens.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And then when it's over, there's going to be a drop, you know. And, you know, actually shout out to, I hope I can share this. Ezra Elderman, who is currently right now directing
Starting point is 00:16:08 the mammoth, Prince documentary. He's the he's the gentleman that did the, the OJ documentary. The five part. Yeah, yeah. The five point. Oh, wow. Right. He won, he won an Oscar for OJ in 2015. And right now, I think when he started, when he started, it was supposed to be like maybe a
Starting point is 00:16:30 six to seven hour prints documentary. He's definitely in the double digits of the hours right now. Like the last, the last dance. dog he he he might have Obama gray hair right now that's how stressful it is like getting in princes world but he was really really there for me to like put it in context because you know the thing is is like once you in context you mean the Oscar winning context well because the thing was like the drop was so low like 10 days later that you know it's real depression and I don't want to
Starting point is 00:17:09 Especially now, especially when we're watching the, the antics of he who gets on my nerves right now. I don't, like, I don't want to loosely, like, throw around, like, words like depression or, you know, that sort of thing. But, yeah, there were moments where, like, you know, I was balled up in a corner and fetal position. And my loved ones had to, like, all right, you okay, man? Like, should I send you somewhere? And, you know, they sent me on my first. vacation ever like you know I had to go to Mexico and just do nothing for a couple weeks but um I talked to Ezra and Ezra is like you know you're not the only person to go through this like
Starting point is 00:17:52 literally he just named me a list of other people that went through similar experiences the amount of preparation and the amount that you put your body through and this this could also maybe explain the Monique situation as well like anyone that dares enter the the arena of trying to win an Oscar and you have to give 10 months of your life. And this could also explain the wheel thing. Like when you get to the finish line, there's a level of anxiety that I can't, I can't really explain. Because for the last 10 months of your life, that's been your life. And now it's over. So it's. Yeah. And it's over. So it's and it's like, what do you do? And you're, you're managing expectations. Who's happy for you's not happy on all stuff. So I will
Starting point is 00:18:39 say that for three weeks it was bad and then I got it together well once I got COVID then I had other problems to deal with because it's no joke living with like half an air pipe there was one probably the most dangerous part about COVID
Starting point is 00:18:55 I know this is weird to say but I was talking to a comedian friend of mine and I started laughing but I was I was like gut laughing hard and then I realized that I couldn't inhale and that shit scared the shit out of me.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Now only because I do like deep level, you know, I've been on my meditation and breathing exercise joy. So there's a, there's a kind of a breathing exercise called DMT exercise where it's like heavy, it's heavy breathing, but it's what Navy Seals do to learn how to hold their breath
Starting point is 00:19:34 for like three minutes. Yeah, dog. Like I was holding my breath. for like 50 seconds before I could slowly inhale again. So, you know, once the COVID thing sort of replaced whatever anxiety, because it's not like you're fighting for your life, but you're treating it seriously. And then that was sort of like my reset thing where I just stayed in bed for two weeks. And, you know, then it was July.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And then, you know, I don't know. it got way better. So that's my long drawn out thing. What was it like going from, because you mentioned about it before, going from, you know, the level of famous that you are
Starting point is 00:20:23 to now another level of fame where you got people texting. It still feels the same. Just a lot of way, a lot of people that were alive doing that era are just more vocal about it. I mean, at its weirdest, it'll be like, you know, Elton John will cold call you or Spielberg will cold call you. So, I mean, I definitely nuanced a lot more friendships than I ever have.
Starting point is 00:20:51 But, you know. And when you get those calls from those people, what do they say? Is it congratulations? Is it, you know, more work they're offering? Like, I meant some of it is work. Some people like want to know with a lot of pitch meetings. So right now, you know, I guess the general rule is if there's a press clipping about it, then I can talk about it. So right now I can only talk about slime the family stone.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Gotcha. I don't necessarily talk about the producing thing. So like the James Brown thing and the descendant thing and all that stuff. I mean, producing isn't rubber stamping. Like, I'm still like actively pounding the payment and campaigning and all that stuff. So I'm not rubber stamping like the producing part. Like most executive producers like, hey, just slap my name on it and we're good. So as far as what I'm doing, I've agreed to direct seven other films.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Good guy. You are scripted. Five are documentaries. Okay. And what's the time period of that, sir? Yeah. That's like a decade. That's a decade.
Starting point is 00:22:00 It's not for him. He's going to do it in five. It is. Okay, so one of the films, I have a co-director, so that will alleviate some of the work. But I'll say that right now, I'm not going to accept anything else until these seven projects are done. And I'll say like 2028, that'll be over. Just because the fans wanted to know, is there a Roots album going on? Roots.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Okay, that's another shocker. words I never thought I'd say in this lifetime. Shout out to Funkmaster Flex. Glad I was here for that. So basically, I believe the way that this thing started, which I was totally unaware about, was the Katz and Griselda, shout out to Griselda from Buffalo, New York,
Starting point is 00:22:51 was sort of riffing about, you know, they haven't been feeling the love of Funct Master Flex, who, you know, I guess you could say that Griselda, is kind of the Gen Z version of Wu-Tang. And they've been doing numbers and, you know, they're a thing, but they still don't feel that love or whatever. Fontmaster Flex could have went the normal route,
Starting point is 00:23:17 which is, you know, start dissing the axe and then be from broccoli and all that stuff. And then whatever, it could easily want to be like, fuck, Fat master foot, well, fuck Reseldon. Instead of Fontmaster Flex said,
Starting point is 00:23:29 I'll tell you what, I heard you. and you know, I heard your fan base. So tell you what, I'm going to give you 10 days to give me a song that I can fuck with and have it to me next Thursday. And he challenged them. They rose to the challenge. And then someone said, you know, Flex, you need to do this more often.
Starting point is 00:23:49 So what Flex does is he calls out someone, says, Naz, I need a new song in 10 days. Okay. So for all the older rappers that are like, oh, you don't support us, you don't support us. so I'm sitting on the sideline because you know he's never played us like Tariq wasn't even acknowledged until that freestyle five years ago and so matter of fact it was five days into it people were like you're going to have that flex on ready I was like what flex on he's like you know he called y'all out five days ago and I was like wait what the thing is you what you don't want to do is not meet his challenge so uh in five days
Starting point is 00:24:30 we came up with a song that's actually fucking incredible. So, you know, we did a song called Misunderstool with Erica Badu and T.R. Wack. Did it in five days, co-produced by our guy, Joe Ron Bombay. And I guess Flex is forcing us now to have this album out by March. So with a song at. What a song at, though? I gave a cop, well, not like you live in Philadelphia anymore. Our friend Kev has the has.
Starting point is 00:25:07 That's all that matters. As long as he rocking it. So it's a soft lunch. So we actually, Steve and I worked on song number two today. So we're just, we're just taking it one song a week. And by March,
Starting point is 00:25:22 you will have end game. Okay. Don't give us months. Don't give us months. Don't give us much. Just say it's coming. Just say it's, there's,
Starting point is 00:25:29 I literally, don't have a choice. Like from MasterFlex, call this out. Like, we have to deliver it now. All right. You, shall we? And it's dope. 2%. That is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter. And on my podcast, 2%, I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world. I'll be speaking with writers, researchers, and other health and fitness experts, and more to look past. the impractical and way too complex pseudoscience that dominates the wellness industry.
Starting point is 00:26:09 We really believe that seed oils were inherently inflammatory. We got it wrong. Many of the problems that we are freaked out about in the world are the result of stress. Put yourself through some hardships, and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person. Listen to 2%. That's T-W-O-Persent on the I-Hart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ladies and gentlemen, I will say that Tariq told us in the Roots chat that Little
Starting point is 00:26:46 Rails Comedy Special on HBO. Yeah, I've watched. I said it, y'all thinking it, at least three times. And it's one of the most hilarious, especially for my age range, like the level of hilarity that this thing is it's you got you must absolutely watch it so good that at the very last minute like we know
Starting point is 00:27:12 we normally don't book guests with hours notice so well man dog just just watch it y'all this is this is the funniest one ever I
Starting point is 00:27:27 I love that I love the special that's your favorite how's it going I'm good how y'all doing man We could. See you, man. Where are you right now? I'm in LA.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I just got back here a couple of days ago. Been like just wrapped another movie and just been moving around. What are you, what are you shooting right now? So I finished. I did three things back to back. I never do that again. See multitasking. Vacation friends too.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I'm doing as a movie called Dashing through the snow. black Santa Claus, like for real Santa Claus. Like Tim Allen's Santa Claus. Damn. Like magical Santa Claus. I can't wait until they start typing it. He ain't black. It's weird. It's stupid.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Nice. But no, it's been great, though. I'm just more. Yeah. And the third one? The third one is Harold and the Purple Cranon based off a children's book. Yeah, I know this. That book's amazing. Yeah, we did that.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Nice, nice, nice, nice. All right, so this isn't a typical episode where we like grill the guests about their career, whatever. So we'll do an actual proper episode. This is more or less about how our 2022 was. You know, we did a boom at the same time. I let that too. But I feel like you had a good 2022.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Nobody knows your personal business, but, you know, at least work-wise, feel like things. Wait, did we have a bad 2020? not my 2020 has been career-wise great like watching everything in the world
Starting point is 00:29:15 has been like I was going to say as a Chicago native you know what it is how does Chicago feel right now man the whole town well this is this is interesting
Starting point is 00:29:30 talk about it I like being excited about me number one. Like they're like real, yes. Thank you. Yay, it's been, it's been tough watching this spiral of a thing. Because you know what it is? It's so weird watching somebody still,
Starting point is 00:29:50 he hates therapy so bad, he won't get it for real. And I'm like, damn, he really is a person still hurting from his mom's death. And that's tough watching, you know, when I think about my special, and I do a joke about my therapist asking me, do I think the wrong parent died? Right. I've been dealing with my honesty of what that feels like.
Starting point is 00:30:13 It's actually tough watching somebody who has it. Oh. Oh. And, man, it's deep because his is a little deep than you know, somebody just passed away from cancer. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:27 It's like, you know, we come out here to Hollywood and all this other stuff. The one thing I'm always careful about who else I expose this to. It's my dream. But I have to be careful who I expose this to. They may not be equipped to handle it. And that could be your kids, your spouse, your...
Starting point is 00:30:48 Yeah, yeah. Right. And so you have to be very careful about where you at with it, who you have in your environment. And it's just so much, you know, I'm honest about that too. Well, yeah, it kind of hurts a little bit. somebody who we are from Chicago, it was this weird town where all of us was
Starting point is 00:31:07 coming up or whatever feels that we was doing. Right. And then he was like the first one of like become alike. In that generation of superstar. Like superstar. Like kind of like this person that came out. We talked about like a superstar. Yeah. And it was like, okay,
Starting point is 00:31:23 cool. And you're doing it being yourself. Yeah, you still, you know, game bankers with you're nerd. You know, like it's just this different. And so all of us is like, yeah. And so, well, I had some cards printed that said the Kanye comedy. That's what I called myself. So it's breaking my heart because I'm watching something spiral in the way where I'm like, I also don't listen to crazy-ass people.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I got crazy uncles, crazy kids. They say all types of shit at Thanksgiving and Christmas. And I don't take a heart to that. I'd be like, cool. for me, I haven't like taking it in this way where it's like bothered me, where it affects me personally, but it's like, damn, dude, like when he, you know, this was an announcement, I ain't never talked about this.
Starting point is 00:32:20 So y'all get in this, me talking about. I never said that. Like when he brought up George Floyd and I saw the same man cry about being a black dad and they're trying to take him. with my black children and the black dad and the black children the black black black and you don't think about that little girl who lost her father the way she did is disgusting to me yeah you can you say all that and you don't you like recreating what you said happen just to make a point that's weird but how about this one though too to add to your to your complexities because
Starting point is 00:32:59 this is the last complexity for me because I have a lot of relatives that are manic and bipolar, right? So I have to ask my relatives, excuse me, cousin, am I still supposed to be letting that be a reason, like, in my head? Like, it just seems like it's so untrend and it's so tailored. And those relatives saying to me, yes, you still should be considering that this is mental illness, which is like, oh, okay. And this is something that, you know, we really stay.
Starting point is 00:33:32 First of all, black people don't even talk about mental illness. As you said, you literally just said crazy, crazy, crazy. And that's been the problem with us for the longest. But here we go. You're right. I go to therapy every Tuesday. I've dealt with my stuff because I know I'm not perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Even when you think about them, right, we still think about like how money changes everything. That too. Access power. Oh, God. And Kanye's a male. Yeah. They took Britney Spears. They like put into the, like, how to have this man ain't in the conservators?
Starting point is 00:34:02 shit, whatever they're calling. But they're not quite considered mental illness. That's why. Because I think people are still kind of like, no, he just, he's just an asshole. He just mean. He just this. No, when everybody, when they made the divorce announcement, well, you know, about everybody was jumping up and down over 200,000 or whatever, I was like,
Starting point is 00:34:23 bro, the fact that he got joint custody of the kids. Like, nigga, that's win. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. How do you get that? I was going to say, yeah, my favorite part of your special was the way that you were open and transparent and talking about going to therapy, which, you know, of course, especially for people of color, like, we've been really, really guarded about that, you know? I mean, I've been doing it for seriously for like nine to ten years, at least on a consistent everyday basis. I mean, I've been doing it for almost 20 years,
Starting point is 00:35:04 but at least on this consistent basis, weekly basis. For you, what was the moment that made you feel comfortable and really sharing that? You know, like I talked about in a special, and it's so crazy and comedy, you know, you make things funny, which is true. The funny thing is I know I can be funny when I'm serious, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:35:23 People are like, that's hilarious. I'm like, no, I sat in this house and had a panic attack. And that's why I was filming something. And I didn't know what I'd never had one before. What happened? Basically what? I don't even know at first. I think my assistant,
Starting point is 00:35:39 I wish you would say she'll tell you, it was building up. It would be, I was having a little emotional thing, but I kept being able to survive through it. Right. Wake up through it. It'll be cool.
Starting point is 00:35:50 No, I was just crying because of it. No, I was bothered, you know, I didn't know why I was. And I was sitting on these stairs, crying hysterically late for work.
Starting point is 00:36:00 We told him, we were sick, I was sick. And I'm like, I'm not sick. I am sick, actually, because I can't work today. I'm like, what's wrong with me? Everything is great. Everything's going well. Like, why am I still having this pain?
Starting point is 00:36:15 What is this? And when I said with my therapist, like, she's smart too because she lent me, and I'm open. I'll be in that. My therapy sessions start just me saying, oh, you know, today was cool. And it's go. And I just be going. And I'm like, man, that's what this is happening.
Starting point is 00:36:31 And so, like, we did that. And she kept seeing me have this strain of or be very hesitant about mentioning my mom. It was like little stuff I'll do like, she's like, huh. And then when she asked me, do I think the wrong parent died was such a powerful thing? And I was like, what you? Excuse me? my parents are a happy black couple they were together the whole time
Starting point is 00:37:02 I had both my parents that was beautiful do you think the wrong parent died and then we got into this deep conversation about nothing about my dad has been dope the whole time but then I started realizing where he went through actually
Starting point is 00:37:16 through this session about how we were all raised as black men and our families to not show certain emotions I realized like even talking to the cousin like how my dad was kind of picked on for being archie.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Hmm. Mm-hmm. Come on. These other things were doing cocaine and kicking it. This nigga was drawing and playing fucking the horn. I'm the artist of the family. And my cousins weren't that, you know, I was a bitch-ass nigger.
Starting point is 00:37:45 You know what I mean? Like, he was trying to teach me to be a little tougher than he loved. You know, I was an artsy motherfucker, too. Right. I started playing the drums at church. when I was six. I was watching the drum and like naturally just learned. Like I just started playing what they at the church. They're like, my uncle was like you can play the drums.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I started playing for the children's quad and like what I understood for my dad was like damn, damn. And he like when I tell you my dad art-wise, we took my music one thing, the brother would, he made these models of like war renditions and shirt like he he was so talented we made Christmas ornaments every year our poor ass family had a broken ass Christmas you can think of
Starting point is 00:38:36 because we made our own order so for like 20 years in all the tree was all the shit we made it'd be a reindeer with one arm and all that shit like in therapy in a weird way when I I remember being angry at him for a second
Starting point is 00:38:52 because he was he used to talk hell of shit every time I did something different but then it was two things that happened. Somebody in his job one day was like, man, your dad talk about you all the time. Like, no, he don't. No, no, he does. Like, he passed out your flags for the comedy show.
Starting point is 00:39:11 He did? He's proud. He never told me talk with me like that. And my mama would tell me like, your dad is so proud of you, but he never said it. And that's because he never heard it. And I'm like, damn, man.
Starting point is 00:39:26 bad. And is your father? Is he still alive? Or is it? He is. But he's going through like slight dimension. That's tough. And so this is the crazy part. I got my dad in this amazing facility that's taken care of him because when he was going through it and me and my brother ain't know what to do with this at first. He was just like showing up at the old house. The police happened to be nice actually because he showed up at the career. It's a whole other family and they're rebuilt it. He made it gentrified neighborhood. We grew up in. Oh, wow. He was dead. He's like, Nancy's showing up. And then even for like recently, like a year ago, we was all at the event for the family.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And he was like waiting on my mother to come get him. And I'm like, no, man. And that shit is tough. Yo, that tribe is big. Well, you know, this tribe is large of people around our age dealing with parents like this. Like, we need to make sure we continue to talk to each other and stuff. It ain't easy. It's harder on the caretakers.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I took care of a grandma with dementia and Alzheimer's. So you've got to take care of self because it's hard. harder on the kids. I love my brother for what he's doing. My brother's a baby. And I'm so proud of him because he stepped up. We're sibling where, right? We're like, you know, I pay for some shit, but that nigga do the day to day.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Right. And I think that's where, like, harmony comes in at, right? Yeah. I'm already thinking about my next special because I think it's about to be insanely more personal. Well, I talk about all this shit. And your drive challenged me with that, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Yeah. I was thinking, yep. Thank him for his 2022. Man, we went to dinner. Oh, shit, yes. Yeah. I totally forgot. Man, that's my man.
Starting point is 00:41:04 We went to dinner last week. Damn. And like, you know, everybody's loving my shit. And Gerard loved it. We know you funny. I love that shit. But Nick, I want you to dive in. I'm like, uh, you right.
Starting point is 00:41:18 He wants you to go. Yeah, he wants you to. And it's time. I can. And I've just, I got to just tour with it. you know and you know I've been doing these movies at the same time so I ain't have time to like
Starting point is 00:41:29 get on the road but I'm gonna take time off and he's right like Gerard Carmich was my little big brother it ain't a lot of people I listen to when he says something to me it pierces me and it's like fuck he's right and we left the rest of her
Starting point is 00:41:43 after that singing Brenda's got a baby for like 30 minutes for like 30 minutes for a reason that dude that dude was saying that hook so hard that song. That's Dave Hollister.
Starting point is 00:41:56 That's Dave Hollister. Dave Hollister, yeah. I never knew that. I never knew that. Fonte. Fonte knows everything. That's why Fonte knows. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Is that God? That's him singing on, that's him singing on, as him singing on, keep your head up, too. Keep your. Really? Keep your head up.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Bring this got to be. Listen, we get, let me, I don't. It sound like the beginning vocals of Dave, I feel like the Brenda's got a baby vocals. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Gala! Yeah. Yeah. If you look into those old Pock albums, if you look into those old Pock albums, if you look in the credits, he gives credits to the black angels, like vocals by the black angel. That was Dave Falis's alien. Oh my God, Fonte. Wow, man. What would I do without Fonte, man?
Starting point is 00:42:47 I think that's him on, but I know it's going to keep your head up, but I'm almost certain it's it. Wikipedia says yes. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. There you go. That's blowing up my fucking mind right now. That's Dave Hollisster singing that like that? I just, I would have never, he don't sound too good, but he sound good.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Why is he singing that very sad hook so hard? Right. 2%. That is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter. And on my podcast, 2%, I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world. I'll be speaking with writers, researchers, and other health and fitness experts, and more, to look past the impractical and way too complex pseudoscience that dominates the wellness industry. We really believe that seed oils were inherently inflammatory.
Starting point is 00:43:49 We got it wrong. Many of the problems that we are freaked out about in the world are the result of stress. Put yourself through some hardships and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person. Listen to 2%. That's T-W-O-Persent on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, what for you was kind of the line? We talk about like going from, you know, we were talking earlier about going from one level of fame to another level of thing. What was the line for you where it was like, okay, This is completely totally different.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Hmm. Well, I was at the amusement part, and he's a group of Asian kids who didn't speak English. Okay. He just said, Uncle Joe. That's like, oh, shit. Uncle Drew. Uncle Drew. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:46 I made it. Like, because I did the Uncle Drew movie. Yeah, right. Yeah. He's huge. But I'm thinking that's funny. That's the one. So not get out.
Starting point is 00:44:55 That's not. Get Out, too. Yeah. No, no. Get Out. What Get Out did was change how Hollywood is all right. Oh, got it. Not the people yet.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And so, like, I haven't auditioned since that movie. Everything has been offered. Oh. We call that the Glenn Termin, because Glenn Termin don't audition. That's what he told us. Bill Glenn Termin, I want the same shit, sir. Damn. I haven't auditioned since that fucking movie.
Starting point is 00:45:25 All these movies, something we do after that, It's been all off. I love it. So that's the level up. I see. I see. What Jordan Peele told me that what happened? He was editing the movie.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I want that to be Jordan calling so bad. First of all, he knows not to call me at the 6. Damn. You got rules? I didn't know how you set those rules. But it's 5.56. He got four minutes. If you don't, if you don't cut people off.
Starting point is 00:45:54 That's a little busyness. They will call you for every single thing. we can talk about this tomorrow. I'm not looking at these emails after six. Oh, after six, you don't look at emails? Oh, that sound free. There's not an emergency situation like a
Starting point is 00:46:09 Anybody that's an agent, manager, publicist, don't call me after six. Now, if I did some shit and I called jail, that's different. Okay. But if it's me chilling, I'm vibing out. I'm like, hi, I'm going to my, spots to watch basketball or football, talk to my friends.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Like, I need that normalcy and I make my light seem like it's all about my career. How long did it take you to figure that out and put up that boundary? Kind of early, man. We kind of have to get out. Like, once again, like, it really was, and I'm going to tell you, Jordan did call me. It was like, dude, know your price. Your life is about to change. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Oh, wow. Know your price. No your price. That's hard. So I started negotiating differently and knowing, like, if anybody, I'm good, I'm good, I get my point and everything. Like, I'm going to, I get my money. Yes, sir. I'm going to get is that.
Starting point is 00:47:09 And then so, like, I started saying, like, I started seeing everybody like, it was just constant. And I'm like, dude, I need a space to, like, and I'm not even lying here. I don't know this random question you hear, but, like, I do have my drum set set up here. I play my drums in this house for hours. Okay. just to give myself peace. So I got a gospel playlist, a couple of them. And I play all the old church songs I used to play
Starting point is 00:47:35 and just sit here for hours. So that's your therapeutic. So therapeutic. Nice. What made you think that lean on me joke was going to work? Because that was, that to me was such a risky, very specific joke that only a certain few people could have gotten, but you nailed it.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Like, what made you go there? This is, this was interesting. So this is what made me be comfortable. And did you see the retweet of the actress that? Yeah, I've probably posted it. Oh, okay. Who's Jamee? Chamee?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Yes, we didn't talk this big, and she's so sweet. She's so nice. She's dope. And so I've three-stayed out of the whole set. So whatever happened happened. What? Yeah, I didn't, I didn't have time to go on the road. I've been shooting fucking movies, man.
Starting point is 00:48:29 So I just did the show. I literally showed up, did the show, didn't know what the fuck I was going to say. That's what the fuck happened. HBO was scared the whole time. Oh, so that's a protocol. Like HBO has to know what you're going to do ahead of time? Most networks want to see the set ahead of time.
Starting point is 00:48:44 It's for legal purposes. It's for a lot. It's all the right thing. It makes sense. Yeah. But I'm like, fam, I've been doing this 20 years. I know what I can't say. I know what I don't have to say.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And if something needs to be paid for, I'm going to pay for it. Because I had to pay for that Lino meat bit at the cost. Really? Shit, I got to go back and hear this joke. I forgot. Oh, my God. You must.
Starting point is 00:49:05 It is funny. It was like, I had to pay for everything musically. Even the bone thugs, like, well, that was your made-up joint. They tried to charge my ass for that. I said, it's not even wild song. Legal's like, well, but it has to be. They don't know if I was like, that bone and slow-song. It don't fucking exist.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Right. I got to tell you, we've been, I've been singing that song like five days in a row. Like, I can't wait for you to come on this show because that's going to be your walk on song. Can I tell you some funny shit with that, too? So I was trying to figure out who I was going to make mad with that particular bit.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I was there. That's what I saw. That's what it is. I'm like, well, busy bones are going to be at the means. A little blah, no, no, no. They're scared. All the cats from 3-6 mafia, the friends.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Uh-huh. Oh, they was like, yo, I'm like, I can't go to Memphis anytime, so I'm not going to Memphis, maybe for the next- Wait, really? I'm not. You didn't even, you didn't even, oh, with his hands. Yeah, yeah, oh, but he, he ain't mad.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Yo, did he just, yo, when Gasey Boo hit me here, that's my home girl. She's like, real, look. She posted it, but she didn't realize us. They, the homies, Paul, he probably cooed, well. The mother, they're all mad.
Starting point is 00:50:32 And I'm like, damn. But you gave him props. I know. I'm basing it when I saw, right? It wasn't like I was trying to, like, be a jerk. I'm like, I mean, even we watched the video. We all saw it. But guess what? At the same time, like, I, well, you all watched it and I respect that.
Starting point is 00:50:54 you know what I mean but I was there I I bought my ticket that's the only versus I went to was the I didn't even know that was going to happen but I was like this is the greatest I always show people it was in LA if it was any other city like Memphis or Cleveland dude that would have ended way crazy yeah and Lee literally was watching that on stage why they all fight like this because there was a bunch of young people there all the older people my age that know the groups from because I, we was all in the back. Them kids were up front and they was watching it
Starting point is 00:51:28 like for the YouTube video. If you want to use this platform right now to set it straight because I watched it, I absolutely didn't think that you were saying anything disparaging about 36 mafia. You made it you made it absolutely explicitly clear
Starting point is 00:51:46 that you were a fan of theirs and, you know, you didn't diss them. I love it. you said that. But we got to realize, right? These are like... Right. They said anyways. Based on the fight, too, the crews
Starting point is 00:52:01 don't do what they're going to do. This is one of those crews with like, only three people or four people did something. And the other 80 niggas... As a comic, I'm like, stop inviting me to shit. Because if I keep seeing these niggas doing this weird shit, I don't know how to not say shit.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Right, right. I'm just being honest. Like, look, man. Yeah, now, come on now. You know, I'm fine with trauma, but I also feel like there's a responsibility. Like, I can't but so long get on this platform and tell you all like, you know, I'm working on myself and da-da-da-da-da-da. Like, I'm going to do it. I'm trying. I'm about to do it.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Like, there has to be a point where you just jump in the pool and just do it. Yeah. And do it. Yeah. Of course, so many people skip. We're scared to really deal with really what hurts them. You nailed it because you said emotions. And then I've explained on the show that since slavery,
Starting point is 00:53:05 African-Americans have not been allowed by law to express any emotions. If you angry, you're going to get lashes. If you start crying, you better not cry if I give you something to cry about. You emotional, yeah. And if you're happy, then you just a bitch-ass motherfucker. And that's like questioning your manhood. So as a result, again, we invented cool. Cool is the idea of holding emotions back.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And black people invented cool. So we made, and just like soul food, like we made cool, we made not having an emotion sexy. Oh, he's cool, man. He's just laid back. When you put it that way, though. He's mysterious. Cool is not being happy, not being sad, not being angry. not being angry, it's just laying in the cut.
Starting point is 00:53:53 And but it affects you. You know, it affected me because shit, I was struggling with lymphedema for 20 years. So all those tears I didn't cry, them shit swelled up in my legs. So I finally had to do some about it this year. But basically, that's the thing. Like since slavery, that's epigenetics.
Starting point is 00:54:17 That's what I'm talking about epigenetics. Like since slavery, we have not been able to express ourselves. And, you know. Well, think about that with education, too, right? When you think about it, like, I think about being picked on in school for just knowing a little more. Being smart. Well, because we, we want, it was illegal for us to read.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Yes. Right. So knowledge, it was a liability. Like, being smart. And it will beat you for literally having the book in your hand. We just still, we're still literally recovering for. things that that's dramatically instilled in that.
Starting point is 00:54:53 And I feel like I love the fact that we're the first generation to, like me and my girlfriend were just talking before I got here talking about. Like I give myself for real, for real, sometimes like 20 minutes like complain. You know what I'm saying? Like for real. Like I get myself like just a hard 20 and then think about the realistic part of, okay, brother, you didn't get through this before.
Starting point is 00:55:18 relax, it's going to be okay. Right. Yeah. Because I don't want to sit in it no more. And I realize a lot of my family, my friends, they sit in pain. Just because we wasn't permitted to figure out how to get out of that shit. We were going to deal with pain, not recover from it. Not only that, but, you know, we're going to self-sooth. And I'm going to need a drink.
Starting point is 00:55:47 I'm going to smoke something. need to fuck something I might need to cut something mutilate something or eat something yeah there's there's ways to self-soof and which is why
Starting point is 00:56:00 you know a lot of people don't make it to 75 80 sometimes you need a little self-send amen I feel like the most of the way
Starting point is 00:56:12 of the show is always me Laii and Fonte but what am I supposed to say at this moment. You say how you feel. Like, like, Stephen Bill.
Starting point is 00:56:23 You say how that. Say that. Let's talk about it. You're raising two girls, Bill. Let's talk about it. I am. You raising, like, how do you deal with stress? You've had some
Starting point is 00:56:32 divorces. You, you're raising an angel and a devil. Still, you can't say that. They can say that. Don't. I make them run around the house until they get real tired and I laugh at them.
Starting point is 00:56:43 So I'm a mind game. I'm kidding. I don't know. They can. They suck every once in a while. Whatever. But like Stephen Bill, do y'all do therapy or like, oh, my mother's a psychoanalyst. I've been in therapy for a long time.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, but like panic. Your Jamaican, your Jamaican mom is this? No, my real mom, not my stepmother, not by Jamaican step. Rell, want to hear a good story. So my dad, my parents got divorced. Right, right now. Run it right now.
Starting point is 00:57:15 My parents got divorced when I was in my mid-20s. And my dad married his, his, his like head nurse, my dad's a doctor, and she's a Jamaican and so my stepmother is Jamaican. And to add on to that, there really isn't anything else. And that's just a funny fucking story. My stepmother's Jamaican. There you go. Actually, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:35 I don't even properly introduced Roel to everyone in the room. So Bill Sherman is, well, maybe, have you done Sesame Street before, Rao? Rell's not been on my show yet. Wow. Why haven't I? Well, well, we can fix that. I mean, just so basically stand by. When you want to go on Sesame Street, Bill Sherman's your guy.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Amongst other shows, but that's his calling card. Bill is the man, but Bill, I want to be on Sesame Street. Okay. All right. Well, we'll see what we can do. Damn. That's not. I wish, guys, I wish I had any clout, like at all, because I would like, I,
Starting point is 00:58:16 I don't. I have none. But I appreciate that you think I do. I really appreciate that. We should say Bill's like real tight. Just like Steve's real. Like, Bill, you are, aren't you music director of Sesame Street? I always say that. Is that wrong?
Starting point is 00:58:28 I am, but I'm freelance. So you know how that goes. There's a whole other world. Anyway, he wanted his jobs, bro. Yeah, I got jobs. I got jobs like Questlove got jobs. Like 17 different jobs.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Bill's a second way from an Egot. Right. You have a Tony. You have a Grammy. you have an Emmy? I do. And you're working on your Oscar. I am. One day I'll be Questlove
Starting point is 00:58:51 Thompson and I'll win Emmys for making documentaries about black music festivals. You should have all this stuff with your background. I was thinking about that because there's awards behind you, I believe. And I was just like, fuck it. The next time we do this, I just got to hang them from the ceiling and make a necklace and do whatever the fuck. I do.
Starting point is 00:59:07 I don't. I have them. They're somewhere. There you go. See, that's the next level shit. Look at that. MTV movie popcorn. I see it.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Nice. Amir, where's your Grammy at? You know what? It's in all the awards are Are in my fame corner I had a Funxway I had a Functuary um expert After after I saw this thing Talk that rich nigger shit
Starting point is 00:59:33 I like it when you do that it make me shimmy Say it again Amir He was a feng shi expert No Say it again This is what I saw the dismal I saw the design of David Geffen's crib and successful people.
Starting point is 00:59:51 I'm a person that I need good energy. I need to wake up in the morning feeling good about myself. And, you know, previously, I mean, Laiaia, you've been in many houses of mine and you've seen how cluttered and fucked up my house has been. I have. And congratulations, La Jaya. That is, that is reflective of a person's life. So, yes. I there's there's there's there's a woman who is like she's like one of the top world uh function
Starting point is 01:00:21 expert she travels the globe world y'all she on Netflix she travels she travels all right shaking all right lie yeah no but that's she basically travels uh to offices to you know and basically reads the energy of the room and says okay you know various corners of degree and, you know, I had to do that. So is that the same? So I had a person that's like a clutter specialist, like, yeah, that's different. To organize everything?
Starting point is 01:00:56 She's not a clutter specialist, but I mean, she deals with functionuate energy. And I'm just. Same thing, right? No, that feels so different. A clutter specialist is like someone who's going to like, hold on, hold on. The clutter specialist goes to the container store and gets you the right goddamn containers. The fact shui person, like fucking, fucking, like, goes like crisscross applesauce, reads the room,
Starting point is 01:01:16 gets in the vibe, and then moves a piece of furniture and collects her money and goes to fuck home. That is a fake, rakey, rakey, rakey, rakey, rakey, rakey, I want you to see it. This is what... Are those CDs? Yes, because I love CD. He almost everything perfectly...
Starting point is 01:01:33 Is it alphabetical or autobiographical? That don't make no sense what you just said. Yeah, why did you even... That was a long... That is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter, and on my podcast, 2%. I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world. I'll be speaking with writers, researchers, and other health and fitness experts, and more
Starting point is 01:02:11 to look past the impractical and way too complex pseudoscience that dominates the wellness industry. We really believe that seed oils were inherently inflammatory. We got it wrong. Many of the problems that we are freaked out about in the world are the result of stress. Put yourself through some hardships, and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person. Listen to 2%.
Starting point is 01:02:37 That's T-W-O-Persent on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, can we just go in a circle and just say what we would like our 2023 to be? Like, I'm going to skip the albums. And it's a shame we didn't get to talk about Renaissance or I don't even know. Was there a movie that was amazing? Yeah, what was the 2020? I kind of shed a tear.
Starting point is 01:03:09 I shed a tear at Black Panther. Yeah, okay, okay. No spoilers. Okay. I like Woman King, too, actually. Women King, thank you, Ray. I got to watch that. Women King was amazing.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Black women, their skin has never looked so glowing. It was more to the movie, but I'm just saying no light, no lighting has ever lit up brown skin people like Woman King. I'm just. I finally watched everything everywhere all at once of the night. I liked it. How did you feel? I liked it, man.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Who's in that? That's my favorite movie of the year. Now, I did the opposite of Fonte. I've watched it 15 times. Michelle William? No, no, no, no. Michelle Yo, is I saying her name? Michelle, yo.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Is it that good? I predict that it's going to win the Oscar. It's, I think she, I think it's going to win, probably win Best Picture, but I think your girl going to get it. Jamie Lee Curtis will win Best Supporting Actors. Jamie Lee Curtis is in this. Okay. Yeah, she's in it.
Starting point is 01:04:10 And I think your girl, Kate Glanchett, is going to win for Tatar for best actors. I will say what Fantasia was for me last year. Everything all at once was for me this year. But, you know, I already told you, I microdosed. So, Amir, what's the correlation between your microdosing and your fang shuang? Say it again? What's the correlation between your microdosing and your fang swing? Well, I'm microdose because I, you know, I didn't, I didn't know how to cry.
Starting point is 01:04:42 And, like, seriously, when I talk about lymphodema, to be, I'll say that a typical moment. between 1997 and June of this year, I'm basically, when I wake up in the morning, I might have 40 pounds of extra water weight on me. I might have eight pounds of extra water. Like depending on what the day is, what the emotional thing is, what the, what the air, the flight is. But, you know, some days I will look like the Michelin Man. That's why like when you Google, photos like you're like oh man Mir put a lot of weight on it and then some days I'm skinny and some days I'm big
Starting point is 01:05:25 that's lymphedema and that's because So proud of you. Talk about that. I got it's time. Yeah it's time. What it is is I think I definitely lived in a you better not cry before I give you someone to cry about.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Like I was really sensitive about when I was talking about the bitch ass nigger shit you know always crying to your mom. Mama's boy that sort of thing. So I learned kind of like at 14, never cry. So I'll say that when I started heavy in therapy and I said, you know, someone asked like,
Starting point is 01:06:03 when's the last time we cry? I was like, well, maybe I cried like 10 or 11 times in the last decade. I thought that was some normal shit. And the person was like, that's basically like you telling this, that you only urinated 10 times in the last 10 years. That's what that feels like.
Starting point is 01:06:18 And I didn't realize that was. such an odd thing. I thought the average person maybe cries like once a year. And so once I decided I'm going to learn how to get angry. I don't you know me I want everybody love me I'm agreeable. Like my last fist fight my only fist fight in life was like with tarique back in 94. I'm 51 years old. I only had one fist fight in my life. Wow. That's because I'd rather be agreeable. So I get angry by a lot of things. But you guys also know there's another side of me where I might be passive aggressive. And no like there's nothing worse in the world than a passive aggressive person. I'm rather you just directly say what's wrong with you. Like I hate passive aggressive people,
Starting point is 01:07:04 but I also know that because I'm afraid to show emotion, anger, sadness, all that stuff. So when I started microdosing, that instantly water just comes out. I won't even say, it's not even like I'm sad. Like basically, I'll say like maybe half a pint of water just comes out automatically. So it's almost like another version of water pills. You know, like when you have water pills and you just urinated away or whatever, that's kind of what it is. It's not as extreme as it was when I was first doing it.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Like I started like early 2020. Now, I'm, you know, I'm in touch with my emotions. I can, I've expressed anger. I've cried without, you know, so that's why I do it. I feel. What about you, you, Ra, do you smoke, you do shrooms, like what's you want? No. You drank a drink a little bit?
Starting point is 01:08:10 I'm a sipper, but no, I couldn't I'll tell you some funny like only on vacation is when I do like edibles And so because when I do that I don't know any better about how much doses I should take
Starting point is 01:08:25 Yeah, it's hard sometimes Man, so I remember like we were like we're in a tea good And I was, we did a hot tub the night before I'm just eating all the candy Like give me some food Oh no Man
Starting point is 01:08:36 Bam And I woke up And it's a crazy I sold a show that day on Zoom. I was so fucking high. Nobody did that shit. They didn't know I felt like the flow
Starting point is 01:08:49 kept going up and down. But I was so entertaining. They were like, they bought it in the room. We're, yeah. I was like, yeah. Well, I met him just like, yo, you're okay? I mean, they bought it. Dude, you lose to your shit.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Yeah, like, dude, I'm high as fuck. I eat like 40 gummy beer. I don't think I was supposed to eat them all right. It's fucking much. I don't eat it like in Tandy. I was like, hot tub. It was like, no. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:09:15 I don't forget. But on the vacation, so it wasn't terrible, you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm not that extreme. The keyword is microdose. So, like, I'm talking like, I'm talking like five to 10. Like, Cypress Hill levels, like, they do 200 milligrams. And, you know, like, well, I'm just saying, like, of weed or like. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:09:37 When you say microdose, you just mean, it could be a variety. I got it. General. The second time I happened real quick, I see last through it. I swear that shit up. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I was, I was, I was, at Eric Andre. I know Eric Andre. Yes. So we had, once again,
Starting point is 01:09:52 edible, yo, I did like six comedy club, just showed the fuck up, went on stage, rocked all that shit, showed up at somebody
Starting point is 01:10:02 birthday party, killed that shit, whatever it was. And the next day, I was like, dude, like, fucking amazing last night.
Starting point is 01:10:09 And I'm, being fully dressed sitting on my couch, like, sitting up. Like, what the fuck happened last? You were off stage. You was fucking crushing, right? You were like, you were on, like, freestyle, and you left. Like, you didn't even, when you said, that's my time, you walked out and just walked out the building.
Starting point is 01:10:26 You did, like, say how did that bad of nobody? You just kept going. And I went to, like, six comedy clubs randomly. Wow. And just kept fucking performing like lunatico. You didn't have any defenses up. You was living in your house? heart. Look, the last question, what do we want for 2023?
Starting point is 01:10:47 They added rabbit holes on Questlove suppression. Well, that's what makes it fun. It is. Apologies to Jake, man. Jake, I really appreciate cousin Jake. Y'all, Jake put together this nice little prep sheet. It's not for you, Ra, because you were just supposed to be here and enjoy all the things we're going to say. About 20, 22. Mm-hmm. But you know, we ain't talking about that. Maybe we do a post-mortem in January.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Bill said it. Bill already said it was ambitious anyway. It was. I felt like it had some politics on it and some non-politics. It's amazing. A lot happened in 2022. At some point I wanted to go. Atlanta was a great show this year.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Y'all, like the best show on TV that I feel like. The most important thing was we finally got back together in person. So we got outside. That was important. We came outside. Yeah. All right. Left the house.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yeah. Oh, you're talking about us, Atlanta. I meant, I actually met the TV show. Oh, you went. Oh, no, I know. I love the show, Atlanta. Like, that Mr. Chocolat episode is one of my favorite. Man, listen.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Ooh, Mr. Chocolin. No, the goofy episode. Like, you ain't going to tell me that wasn't real. I thought that was real. I had to stop. I had to pause it. Maybe. And look it up.
Starting point is 01:11:59 I was like, all right, ma'am. It is not. They bodyed that shit, for real. Okay. I'm sorry, Amir. But, you're sorry. I was. I was enjoying it.
Starting point is 01:12:10 It was brilliant, man. They did a mockumentary on Goofy and his relation to being a black man and it was like, what the fuck is going on? But it was, yeah. That was hilarious. I like the way they ended the show. I thought they ended it well.
Starting point is 01:12:22 It's very, I felt kind of soprano-esque, but yeah, you always want more. It's a rap, see it. Nothing, not the end is perfectly. That's true. Is it true? Nah, the only show I think ended perfectly, I think six feet under ended perfectly.
Starting point is 01:12:39 that was like he took it back I got it at the end of series like yeah it's six feet underdog I never watched that show I hate to leave it on cliffhanger like this what I and I wrote about this in my last
Starting point is 01:12:53 book I have a problem with penultimates in the final chapter I wrote like that thus there's probably every series with the exception of the wire in the Sopranos every major cities I will not watch
Starting point is 01:13:07 the last two episodes because I don't like goodbyes. I understand. As I felt with Atlanta, Atlanta felt like that. It was like, fuck, this is it.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I mean, I appreciate. Thank y'all for your service. Only watched it by accident because other people were in the room watching it. So I watched it, but I wouldn't have watched the last episode of Atlanta just because, you know.
Starting point is 01:13:28 I haven't yet neither. It's so funny you say it because it is weird. But one thing I'd be scared of with where black shows is they always leave with an empty house, right? There's always some diggins just looking around. It's like, what the fuck? And then walking off stage.
Starting point is 01:13:49 And then you never know. That was actually the car michael show. I know. I've seen the got the C word. These textibles. But even with the Carmichael show, like, because I didn't want to watch, I still haven't watched the last episode of the Carmichael show.
Starting point is 01:14:05 You should, but we didn't know we was ending. So that's the thing. It's exactly still an open book. I tell Gerrano all the time, we should do one of those weird, saved by the bill movie. Y'all should. Y'all got to do something.
Starting point is 01:14:22 That couldn't have been the final chapter. Like, especially now. I love this show, man. Now that y'all have both, like, evolved and so, like, y'all got to, yeah. We should do a movie, and Bobby and Nikisha is getting remarried. And this is what the fuck it is. But it may not interrupt with her schedule
Starting point is 01:14:37 on her that show because I like, I watch her on her other show. I forget that. The actress from Carmichael show did. Oh, Amber. Yeah. She's on another dope show. So I was like, don't take away from her schedule. No.
Starting point is 01:14:52 What show are she on? Other four black girl show. I thought. It's not, it's not Harlem. It's, um, run the world. Run the world. Yeah. Run the world.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Okay. Yeah. I forgot. All right. So, no. Nobody wants, we. Yeah, we can do it. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:15:10 No, let's do it. What's your 20, 23, Laia? No, I didn't mean I wanted to start first. I just meant we should do it. My 2020, okay. It's almost like we never did this podcast before. What is my 2020? You look like probably going back to that question that you asked me about
Starting point is 01:15:28 and what I should have been doing in 2022. I got to work on my own projects. And I'm, yeah, and yeah. I'm not doing my own project. Step into your fear. Comedy. Do it. All right. I'm paid bill.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Yeah. I think just trying to push the envelope, trying to do something different. I don't know. Is there anything after, I mean, you did and Juliet? I did.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Which is great. Is there a Hamilton sequel? Hamotin? You're fine for that shitty comment. Hey, nobody got tired for that. That was terrible. You done.
Starting point is 01:16:04 I don't know. Yeah. We'll see. I don't know. I just want to produce more things and make more things instead of just being the random music guy. There you go. Oh, dope. Take a little.
Starting point is 01:16:15 2023. I think just finish it up and getting out this Little Brother documentary. That's the main. And, yeah, I'm trying to find more time to sit still. That's kind of what this last month has been. Yeah, just like just being still. So I try to just sit in that. And so definitely make you more time for that for myself every day.
Starting point is 01:16:41 The correct answer. Sugar Steve. Work, work, work, work, work. You know, more, just make more records. And you quote Rihanna. I was quoting Black Thought, actually. You're right. It's a long story.
Starting point is 01:16:59 You're right, Steve. But yeah, just keep working, keep living. Keep trying to be happy. All right, Ra, 20, What's up? I can make this personal, but Now, go ahead, man. This is about to be your most general
Starting point is 01:17:13 thing in the world. Can we stop listening to dumb motherfuckers? Let's start giving them platform. Let's stop taking this shit so fucking serious and let them weird
Starting point is 01:17:29 motherfuckers do them. You got some stupid shit to say I'm not going to take your energy of your dumb shit. I know that sound vary what it is, but for real. I think... No, no, what are you talking about? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Don't give you. It's so... No, it's the few people. Yeah. It's not even... It's so many. Right. Right. Right. Right. It's so many.
Starting point is 01:17:51 We don't have to give lost people energy. They actually need us to have some fucking sense. Yeah. When we get them energy with that dumb shit, it won't change nothing.
Starting point is 01:18:03 They got to stop making money for people. I don't even know if they do. for real. I just think we just love being entertained by an idiot. And so, like, as long as we stop taking it so serious, fine. This nigga Becky lies, fine. Cool.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Shibidi-dobos. You want to put a mask on? Shibidi-d-d-do-do. Whatever the fuck you on two. Man, like, just, I don't want to, like, I hope people stop listening to fucking people that don't give a shit about nobody but themselves. Right? That'd be
Starting point is 01:18:35 crazy, right? That'd be crazy. That's a quote. That's a quote right there, for real. I want to, I'm going to say mine. I'm going to say mine, but let me, let me think, Ralph are coming on the show. Last minute notice. I appreciate this. I know this is past your personal time.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Yeah. I appreciate it. Oh, yeah, it is. Thank you. Can I say this, though, for real, I appreciate you, Quartz, hitting me up, watching a special, telling me how much you love that shit. All of us with our art that we do, we love. of the artists who respect
Starting point is 01:19:10 tell it to they fuck what I shit to. Well, I'll tell it to the world, man. I've watched that shit three times. It's hilarious. You got it. You guys have to see it. All right. So I'm going to give my
Starting point is 01:19:22 my 2020 manifestation wish. Oh, you didn't call it a manifestation. I would have said something better. Okay, but go ahead. Oh, that's you know, it's what you want to put out in the energy. So I'm a pray
Starting point is 01:19:39 I'm gonna say five words And then I'm closing the episode And I'm saying goodbye Uh-oh, you're dropping a mic 2023, you ready? Five words Wife, baby To be continued
Starting point is 01:19:55 Okay Is that the name of a new movie? Is that the name of a new movie? Is that the name of a new movie? What the fuck just happened? He don't even do that, Bring your ass back. We don't be hanging up like that on this show.
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