The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: Brittany Howard

Episode Date: March 6, 2024

Brittany Howard sits down with Questlove Supreme to discuss her new album, What Now. Howard also reflects on her upbringing and the formative years of the Alabama Shakes and discusses making a new hom...e in Nashville. The vocalist and guitarist also reflects on the influence of Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Pink Floyd, and David Bowie.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.
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Starting point is 00:01:12 My dad gave me the best advice ever. He goes, just give it a shot. But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises.
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Starting point is 00:02:50 Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio. What's up? What's up? What's up? Ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:03:15 This is Questlove Supreme. I'm your host, Questlove. With me, Team Supreme. Lai'ia, hello. How are you? I am well, excited, friend. I know, right? Long time coming.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Long time coming. What's you up to? What's going on out there? Right now, it's not raining. So that's a good thing. And that's what's going on. It's been raining since. I mean, I was there for the Noah's flood of Grammy night.
Starting point is 00:03:43 It's still been raining since. I guess so I wasn't. I left and went to Brazil on Grammy night. But I heard it. You heard that flaws? You got to drop it. I went to Salvador. I went to Salvador.
Starting point is 00:03:52 So, you know. You went to Brazil for a carnival? For the best carnival. Yes. Yes. What the hell? Flex is that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:01 What? Y'all flex all the time. I flex once a year. What was it like? Give me your. 45 second report. I mean, Salvador, if anybody doesn't know about Salvador, Brazil is beautifully black. It's the second
Starting point is 00:04:12 largest black populated place outside of the continent. So it has all the flavor and all of the ways and just a lot. It was just beautiful. It was beautiful and fun. And the food take that better there. Yeah. They say, just for you, so you know, the three different cities, you party in Rio
Starting point is 00:04:28 and the people in Sao Paulo work so the people in Rio can party. And then, yeah, the black folks are in Salvador. Okay. Right. You didn't go to Rio or the other cities? other spots? No, I was where you really want to be. I literally, Amir, Salvador is the best place to go for carnival. I said it's where the black people are who started it. Oh, I, hey, I didn't know. I'm a product of the Philadelphia High School public curriculum, so. Yeah, but you're a world traveler. I know. I just
Starting point is 00:04:56 go to my hotel, eat my, I'm sorry. We got some things to do. We got them all. I would love to take all the honor to Salvador. Well, yeah, you got a last known. Next time you go You're right, you're right, you right, you right, you right, you're right, you're right. Yeah, we gotta go there to do the author Veracai episode. That's what? Tell me Fonte, what now? Oh, the author, Veracai. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Do the author of Veracay episode. That's what we're doing. By the way, how, you know, I didn't get to Pete Hiddy's Coyote's collaborative album with him. Is it, or is it? I haven't listened yet. I haven't listened yet either. Okay. Uh, what's up, Steve?
Starting point is 00:05:29 What's going on, man? How's life? Great. I'm currently imagining a vacation with Laia to salvage. I know you need it. Yeah, I need a bad, real bad. Everything is great. Looking forward to this interview.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Here's a dumb question, Steve. I got to ask you a work question. Who's on the show today? Jennifer Lopez and Alan Richson and Gary Clark, Jr. But we had a great musical guest yesterday. Who? Brittany Howard. Oh, I was, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I was not. at work yesterday you can't get mad at me brittany i was not at work yesterday i i had to take a day off things were happening uh fantigula what's what's good man i'm good man i'm excited to have brittany here today man i can't wait and talk about this new album hell yeah shit is hard it's hard it's got me sweating already wait are you in california bill sermon no i'm in new jersey also California. Yes. I mean, you're usually in the basement, so I was throwing on.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Yeah. So I, yeah, I'm not in Black Brazil. I have a house in New Jersey, and this is what it looks like from the kitchen. I see. All right. That's what's up. We got to teach Bill about light. You're supposed to be in front of you.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I know. I like being in shadows. Bill's flexing of his window structure actually made me think he was on vacation somewhere. So I didn't realize that was just Jersey. Ladies and gentlemen, our guest today, as Laia, well, as everyone said, pretty much we've been waiting a long time for this one, and it's finally happened. She is a five-time Grammy Award winner, and she basically pours her entire life experience into her songwriting, her music, her production. And, you know, she's just a star-rah with an AH at the end of the word star. She's practically worked with everyone, name it, from Prince to Verdeen White to Liminwell, Miranda, John Legend.
Starting point is 00:07:34 The list goes completely on and on and on. She has formed several successful bands, including one of my favorite Alabama shakes, not to mention she's here today to talk about her journey through life, her journey through love and music. And we're celebrating the release of her sophomore album entitled What Now? And welcome Brittany Howard to Questlove Supreme. Yes, sir. Hey, thanks so much for having me. I have to do crystal bowls.
Starting point is 00:08:08 At long last. Yes. Hey, everybody, good to be here. At long last. Where are you right now, Britt? I'm in the city. I'm looking out the window. Lori, you sat.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Obviously, you're on the promotional run, or are you on an actual tour for, your album. I'm doing both at the same time. I'm on the promo run. I'm doing tour. Yeah, that's what I'm out here doing. As Fonte said, congratulations on the record. Like, it's really awesome to hear your artistic growth and, you know, just the risk that you're taking. The album is incredible. And, you know, all the accolades that you're getting on it, congratulations are in order. We love this record. Yeah. I want to personally thank you for to be still like that man like thank you for that record and shit is beautiful
Starting point is 00:09:03 thank you thank you thank you yeah i really appreciate it yeah there's a level envy i have when a person releases a new record maybe because i'm constipated 10 years in holding my own record hostage that was like everyone like you know Gary Clark's record's record's coming out Britsmanich is coming out we just had Kareem Bailey Ray like all these albums are coming out and I'm like still holding my join hostage and like so what what is the feeling you feel when it's when it's over and you know it's ready we mean like when it comes out how's that well yeah when you're done because for me like albums are almost like your kids I hold this close to the chest I don't play
Starting point is 00:09:50 demos for people I don't you want to hear a bit of that like I'm so anxious feel on letting it go and then there's a point where like whenever I always master a record maybe like two weeks before it's really supposed to be turned in because I almost have to have a morning process in literally letting your kids go and I want to know do you go through that or is it just like hey here are my 12 13 songs and I'm ready yeah I feel like I'm understand where you're coming from but for me it's kind of opposite I'm like I can't wait to get this out in the world because you know how it isn't in in in
Starting point is 00:10:33 this business you have to do the whole album cycle you know the touring and you have to promo and you do and you do and you do all of this for this album and it's like as soon as I finish an album I can't wait to get it out it's like a gestation process and what I imagine a very pregnant woman feels like it's like I'm ready for this thing to get out of me you know so I can move on with my life. And it's kind of what it's like. I'm very proud of this project. But I'm also very excited to start a new one as well. Already. Are you a song cycle person or are you an album cycle person? Like, do you just write enough songs for the album to come or is it even as the album is
Starting point is 00:11:14 done, you already have songs in the stash or still writing? Like there's still some on the cutting room floor. I just, I think I still had like six or seven that didn't make the album and it was it was just because um it was taken too long like i was like all right i got enough here i don't i don't really want to spend any more energy working these out i'll do this later and i'm definitely like an album cycle person like uh as soon as it feels like it if it has to feel done it has to feel cooked and i feel like once i have that feeling it's just like an intuition thing then i'm like okay here it is this is it's now let's do the sequence What was the period of time between knowing when it was done, like just knowing like that feeling you were talking about,
Starting point is 00:11:57 I'm like, okay, I feel like this is complete, this cook, the time between that and it actually coming out and being released? Sure. This time, it was like 10 months. Oh, wow. That's a long time. A long while, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, like post-pandemic, things are still just taking a long time to create because we like final.
Starting point is 00:12:20 We like the objects when listening to music. It takes a long time to print those things. Everything's just slower. So it took a long time to get the whole the whole shebang ready, really. If this was like a meal, then how long was your meal prep and what was the preparation for this album in the sense that this album is going to say this. Do you even do all of that in your head? No, I don't even think about that. It was just, I started this in March of 2020.
Starting point is 00:12:49 So that's pretty much like shut down. And I didn't realize I was making an album. I would just go in and just make songs for fun because the world was terrifying. And we were all scared, so there's really nowhere to turn to. So it's just like I used music as my outlet once again. And when I was making this album back in 2020, I didn't know I was making it. I was just like it's a journal entries, you know? And I told myself, I'll just go in there.
Starting point is 00:13:16 No matter what happens, it's okay. It doesn't matter what it sounds like. It doesn't matter the quality of it. It's just something to do. And so it's been cooking for such a long time. The meal prep has been insane. I had walked into the kitchen, cut vegetables, walked back out. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Well, let me ask you. How close to March 13th, 2020, did you start the record? So I had just finished a London tour, I guess the UK tour, I flew from London, got to New York City. And we had Fallon lined up and we had different shows lined up we're going to do. And I was just looking at the state of things. I was like, I don't think, no, this is going to happen. So I actually flew home, what, like on the 12th or the 13th. Like, I got to Nashville.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And then everything shut down. And I feel like I feel like I started tinkering with things, maybe like a month later. I just know, like, I finished Tiger King. And as soon as I finished Tiger King, I was like, I don't have around stuff to do. like I guess I'm going to make music because I'm a musician. What did you think of Joe Exotic songs in Tiger King? Oh shit. I thought here kid a kid it was a jam.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Hey, fuck that. Hey, but it wasn't even him, right? It wasn't even him. It wasn't even him. Which makes it richer. He just wanted to act it out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:44 What do I think about the song? Honestly. as a body of work, like as a body of work, I'm going to give it a six. Okay. A six. A 20. No, I'm going to. A lot of these albums that I'm hearing sort of got their genesis or they're beginning in 2020,
Starting point is 00:15:05 and they're just coming out now like four years later. I don't think it's a coincidence that for a lot of us, a lot of our art that we started creating in 2020, in sort of the, the midst of panic in the apocalypse air quotes the apocalypse i don't think it's a coincidence so i guess i'll ask you how hard was it or what was your relationship to creativity in the apocalypse you know because like people are dying in real time family members are getting sick in real time and like all these things are happening but for you like were you like fuck singing or like
Starting point is 00:15:46 And I mean like more like July, August when we don't know if we're coming or going. Yeah. I mean, my relationship creativity was definitely difficult during that time. I was seeing like friends, especially on Instagram, just like having output, output, output, output, and I couldn't believe it. I was like the last, you know, kind of where I was, like I said, I was going in and out of making little songs. I mean, they're like 30 seconds. They're just little ideas. And I push myself to do that. But honestly, it was like doing anything creative was a survival mechanism for me. Couldn't go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Couldn't see my friends. Was always concerned about getting sick. Was concerned what was going to happen next because not only didn't we have the pandemic, but back in Nashville, we had just had a tornado that had kind of devastated the area where I was living. And it was like one thing after the other. And a lot of people, like, they didn't have roofs on their house. So people are trying to help each other out at the same time. It's an extremely stressful kind of like position to be in.
Starting point is 00:16:47 So to me, the creativity was my lifeline to any normalcy whatsoever. And it wasn't like I needed to have output. And it wasn't like I needed to make anything great. It was just I just needed to have any type of like control at all, really. Another commonality in the pandemic was a pivot. Did you discover another talent that you had in the pandemic that you didn't realize you had? man um i think you know listen i kind of rediscovered my love for fishing me and my dad used to fish when i was a little girl and during that time because i lived i like lived in the country i could just go
Starting point is 00:17:25 by myself and go fishing and um i kind of got good at that i guess if you can if you can say you can get good at fishing yeah got good of standing there and you she got good patience that's what that means yeah she was a leber and a good fisher Oh, Libre. Okay. Libra, yeah. October. October 2nd?
Starting point is 00:17:49 See, I was going, oh, God, you're October. Just like everybody you know. Wait a second. Wait a second. We can't be friends. I'm sorry. No, not me. There's no room in the end.
Starting point is 00:18:01 My life is sort of bombarded with everyone that's a result of post-valentine Day activity. Oh, that's that man. Good man. Yeah. Okay. You looked into that, huh? Hey, man, drunk in New Year's, Valentine's Day, early, literally, last of September, early October. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:18:26 A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
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Starting point is 00:20:37 It's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day. And I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really close. give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're
Starting point is 00:21:09 banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right. It wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the sports. Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar, this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:21:58 If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so-ins, correct? I doctored the test ones.
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Starting point is 00:22:54 This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice has served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped Podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Where were you born? I was born in Huntsville Hospital.
Starting point is 00:23:28 That's Huntsville, Alabama. I was raised in Athens, Alabama. What was that town like? It's changed a lot now, but back on those little, lots of fields, cows, pastures. It's pretty flat where I live. It's got tornadoes. Lots of country people. We had good diversity, though.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Good diversity. Lots of rich people, poor people, black folks, white folks, Mexican folks, all the folks. You grew up on a farm or like a city escape. I'm asking this because I have ties to Alabama, so I'm trying to learn other parts of. You mentioned that to me before. Yeah. But where I'm from is rural. It's pretty rural. I live way back off the road in the woods and I grew up like kind of like in a farm setting. But also my father, my father was a tow truck driver and he had a junkyard. So I kind of grew up of like amongst junk like a junkyard aesthetic and also had like this beautiful animals running around. So were you a loner or you know, did you have a community of friends or?
Starting point is 00:24:30 So I just played with like there was like little boys like the neighborhood little boys because I live way back in the country off the road. So they would literally just drive their little tractors down to my house and we would just play in the creek and stuff like that. Like it was like country country. Yo, is it just me? I just had this conversation with somebody the other day. You just made me think of this. Tomboys. That's not a term that's used anymore. It's not. But back then it was. It was. I was a tomboy. I mean, yeah, but I don't even know if it's politically correct anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I don't know. I haven't thought about it a long time. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. But I definitely was one of those. And like my, you know, it was interesting. Like my upbringing, like my dad, you know, he's a car salesman. And he did, you know, the toe jobs and stuff like that. So he knew everybody in the community. So he would always do what we call horse trading, which is just when you trade this for that. And I remember one time he brought me home a pony and I'm going to be so excited about this pony. I was the only girl on the street that had a little pony. And the pony wasn't right in the head. So the pony would like try to attack us and chase us and bite us. It was eating meats. It was eating what? It was eating what? He was eating meat. It was eating birds. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, witnessed it. Not your
Starting point is 00:25:45 dream my little pony. No, it was not a dream, but all the kids would come down and kind of check out the pony, you know. Yeah, so that was my claim to fame. Now I'm going to ask you a round of dumb questions that I never asked a person that was anything close to equestrian life because I don't know that many people that have owned horses or ponies or any of those things. And I hear this all the time where like one day I came home and my dad surprised me with and usually a pony. What is the general like maintenance of owning one of those things like i have a farm now do i plan on owning and my farm actually comes with i have like a barnyard that's a stable that can hold six of them if i chose to own them right now it's for storage but what's what's the the daily care routine
Starting point is 00:26:37 for that uh the daily i mean honestly like when it comes to upkeep for a horse You're talking about you got to have your like regular vet visits. You got to keep up with the vitamins. Definitely take vitamins. Yeah. Well, it goes in their feed. Why are you laughing at me, Laya? They're beings.
Starting point is 00:27:00 We all need nutrition. You knew this? I mean, I'm not surprised. I'm not like an equestrian person. I didn't think so either when he said. But I remember what we used to do. You got to take care of hooves. You got to take care of.
Starting point is 00:27:14 When it's cold outside, you've got to make sure that everything's right for them. When it's hot outside, you got to make sure everything's right for them. Like, I think they're pretty high maintenance, really, and they're also expensive, expensive creatures. You got to buy it a trailer, a mirror. Like, if you're going to take it to the vet, you got to take it to the vet. Okay. Yeah, I just never understood, like, the casualness of friends of minds like, yeah, I brought my kid a horse or whatever. But, you know, I have anxiety trying to consider should I get a dog or not, let alone.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And then that's your answer. A horse is very different things. Yeah, I start with a dog for sure. I'm not even starting with a dog because I travel too much. But, you know, I just generally wanted to know. And the neighbors that I have on both sides of the house, they have horses. I go up and pet it. And part of me thinks like, oh, it's not that bad.
Starting point is 00:28:04 But I know that there's some real shit that I don't know. And Brittany ain't say if she kept the pony until it turned into a horse. Did you, did you? That's the part I wanted to do. That's the part I wanted to do. Those are two different. Oh, wait, dude, I did not know that. I thought that ponies were puppies to horses.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Nah, no, they're not. They're their own thing. They're their own thing. Pony's do not turn into horses. Wait, wait, wait, what? They do not turn into horses. Ponies is his own thing. And they stay that size?
Starting point is 00:28:38 They stay that size, yeah, they stay that size, that's right. Yeah, and they're kind of mean, to be honest, honestly, the ponies are not like super nice. Really? Yeah, attitudes. All the ponies I may have attitudes. Even the Shetland ones like real cute. Oh God, this is about to be our animated.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Okay, sorry. Advertis. National geographic with Questlove Supreme and Brittany. Yeah. No, I do this, this platform is more for me to learn shit more than with their records. I already mentioned the record. I want to learn about this shit.
Starting point is 00:29:10 How long did you keep the pony before it was like, okay, no more? not long a trade you know we we we kind of traded things up so like and that's just common there's common around where i'm from yeah and so we had traded like we had a quarter horse at first and then we traded the quarter of the quarter horse is like it's like 25 years old so like i couldn't do anything with it so we traded it for the pony and the whole reason we got the pony because the pony would mean to bite you so then i traded the pony for a go-cart and then we were cool from then on Yes, that's an awesome trade.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It's a good trade, yeah. And what's this level of trading called again? It's called horse trading. Horse trading. Okay, that's the term I never heard before. So is it a thing where like once a month you take what you want to trade to a place and you trade it? Or you just go to your neighbor and be like, yo, what you want for this? It's a lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:30:04 It's a lifestyle. Okay, okay. Yeah, it's like, I haven't noticing that you have this in your yard. Does it run? Someone's like, well, it could run. I just ain't took it in. It's like, well, I got this. I'll trade you this for that.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And then it's your job getting running. And then you take that thing that now runs and trade it for something else that you want. You know, you just trade up. I got it now. Can you tell me what your first musical memory was? Oh, man. First musical memory. My grandmother had like one of those big consoles that has like the eight track player
Starting point is 00:30:38 and the record player and the speakers built in. And I remember being really young, maybe four and messing around with all the vinyl. Yes. And pulling out some of the albums and had them all on the floor. And my grandma was like, what you're doing? You know, like, don't break them and all this. And I remember her putting on the Thriller album. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:01 But I remember hearing the speakers because it was like a tube system. Remember them warm up. And then I could hear, you know, songs of Thriller coming out with the speakers. and being like what the hell is this you know kind of amazed in a name about a whole thing not just the music but just all of it you know the warmth of it coming on was that your kind of i don't mean come to jesus moment but for you was that like the moment where it's like okay well i want to also express myself in this way through music or No, so no, not really.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I mean, I had that kind of moment when I was 11. I was in middle school. And am I middle school? I don't know, whatever grade 11 is, 50, 6th grade. And there was a band from our school that had rented out our gym and they were going to put on a show. And I remember all throughout the day, everybody was asking, are you going to go to the show? I was like, I don't know. I'll see if I can get there.
Starting point is 00:32:08 And so I get to the gym and I'm by myself. and I remember being like super anxious because I didn't really know anybody well. And the band plays and me seeing them play on stage and kids I went to school with. It was like I didn't know these kids could do this. They were so talented. Look at the effect they're having on people. It was songs that I liked and I knew. And it was like the coolest thing I had ever seen.
Starting point is 00:32:29 And it was in that moment standing in the gym that I knew I wanted to be in a band and I wanted to make my own music. And I wanted to be up there like they were. Like I think that was a come to Jesus moment for me. Okay. How long before you found other people that sort of had a common love for music? Like, was music something that you kept close to the chest or like how big was the music community down there? It was it was so small I had to teach people how to play music to be in a band. Wow. So I would go teach myself to instruments and then I would go back to school.
Starting point is 00:33:09 and I would just try to find a kid with some sort of musical talent, like rhythm. And I'd be like, okay, hey, do you want to learn how play bass guitar? I'd like, do you want to how to play drums? And I would, I would tutor them and see if they'd get to a point where we can make music together. Some, some yes, but a lot, no. Like, it just didn't happen. Right. I was trying to make it happen.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And it wasn't until I was probably like 16 years old that I finally met some kids who also were interested in making music. And that was Zach, Jack Cockwell, bassist for the album of Shakespeare. And then Keith Fogg, who became the guitar player. And it was them. So this whole thing really started from my school. Was guitar your very first instrument of choice, or did you play other instruments as well? My first instrument, I guess technically is like piano and then drums. I'm a drummer at heart.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And then bass guitar. You've never shared that with me. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, a lot of my, yeah, a lot of the drums on my new record, I programmed those drums. Okay. I'm not saying I can play them like that, but I can hear it, you know. And yeah, then I learned bass, and then I only learned guitar because I had to. I didn't really want to play guitar.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Really? No, I want to be in the rhythm section. I just want to play bass. What is the gap, though? Wait, the gap in between you knowing you wanted to do this and you teaching folks the music, like, how are you learning? You never kind of said that yet. You just. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:38 So at first, I didn't have those instruments. Like, drums, I could have access to drums because there were a set of drums at our school. So I could go play those drums after school. When it came to bass guitar, I would just borrow one from one of the rich kids. Because, like, I don't know what it was about school, but all the rich kids had a bass guitar. I said, let me borrow it, you know, and they let me borrow it. And so I taught myself how to do that. And the guitar, my sister had a guitar, like, tucked away back in the closet.
Starting point is 00:35:08 like one of those JCPenney guitars that looks like a Les Paul and it's like it's like 150 pounds and that's what I learned on was that guitar so I was teaching myself how long did it take oh I mean I haven't mastered any of those instruments okay no no no no honestly I was just learning as I went so if I pick something up I would make something with it I would just learn as I went so from from the very beginning I wanted to make my own music that was like the whole goal there's like the whole purpose but um when I was originally learning I had to learn other people's songs so I just started with stuff that was easy like like blinkerate 2 and all those like kind of things like that they're pretty easy power chord stuff you know so where I'm gonna ask you my only one that goes through this like sometimes when we'll ask people about their childhood you're thinking about your childhood too but then you realize that their childhood is actually your adulthood like she's just talking about her childhood and I'm like
Starting point is 00:36:12 wait a minute I was 33 years old when that came out like what the fuck Britney how don't do the math don't do it
Starting point is 00:36:19 don't do it it hurt I know I get my feelings hurt I guess when we first played together was at the rock and roll hall of fame in Cleveland
Starting point is 00:36:28 and we were doing a tribute for a big mama Thornton in your childhood was there did anyone ever put you on to her or was it like later in life when you discovered it? I'm for a so-called music historian I you know I admit and I'm ashamed to admit that I was probably in my mid-40s before someone explained to me who Big Mama Thornton was even though
Starting point is 00:36:52 like I've heard hound dog and all that stuff all my life but um I remember doing sister Rosetta Tharp though oh my god I was thinking you was talking about to say that's just you know what I don't even want to edit that Yes, even Questlove makes mistakes. Yes, I had a brain fart. I'm sorry. Music Astoria, Questlove. We need to know both names. We definitely need to know both names. I'm sorry. I meant Sister Rosetta thought. Yeah. Were you at all familiar with her in your childhood or did that come to you later in life? It definitely came to me later in life. Maybe mid-20s,
Starting point is 00:37:27 mid-20s is when I started getting curious about these women blues players. Right. And then I had started hearing about, well, there's this woman that kind of inspired Chuck Berry and inspired Elvis Presley and had the electric guitar. And someone told me about it because I played an SG. And they're like, oh, that's like Sister Rosetta Tharp. She also played a SG custom and white. And I was like, oh, I've never heard of her. So I started looking into her stuff. And I was like, the stuff she's actually playing on the guitar is so unique.
Starting point is 00:38:00 It's her voice on that guitar. nobody else is doing it. It's crazy. It's actually hard. It's hard to play how she's playing. And so that's when I kind of started diving into her stuff and her story, which her story is really interesting as well. In your childhood or in your teens, who was your North Star by that point as far as like singing was concerned as far as like who's just like your go-to artist that you loved?
Starting point is 00:38:29 In my teens, it was David Bowie. Oh, wow. Yeah. Because it was like the whole aesthetic and the songwriting was like it had like a lot of different mixtures in it, which I really liked. It had like some show tunes to it as well. Like you know what I mean? Like I can hear his inspirations being like from Broadway. And then like also he was taking things like from Kabuki Theater.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And he was borrowing rhythms from R&B and he was doing jazzy things and it was just fascinating to me And I liked his voice. I thought it was really interesting how he used his voice to he wasn't trying to be like a professional singer A technical singer. It was just he was just like giving like he was giving vignettes. He was giving like small scenes from a movie or something every song I thought that was cool so I became obsessed with it. Okay Obsessed to what levels I had everything had everything he had ever done you have Labyrinth? Yes, I was I love this context. Yes. I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I was like, okay, what era of boys this, you know, early? Is this 84? Literally. Like, oh, I was listening to like 10 men. I was listening to all of it. I didn't like it. Oh, 10 men? I listened to it.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Yeah, I was. Yeah. You know, it's weird. All right. So I worked in a record store. 88, 89, when the first 10 men, the album came out. and okay so we traded in the record store for the internet but if you hang out in a record store long enough you're going to meet two or three know-it-all snobs that have their like unsolicited opinions on stuff
Starting point is 00:40:11 and suddenly their opinions become your opinions and working in that record store and like think of jack black's character and uh yeah half a devil yeah like i had like two of those guys and You know, we had to put the 10 men display up and all that stuff. And they were just like, ah, man, this shit sucks. And of course, you know, everyone wants you go back to, you know, your first seven years when you're blowing everyone's mind and when it was just your secret before the world had you. And it's so weird because I'm working on this doc right now and Timon's performance, I will say that if you really give and if you can find any of their performances online and I don't know how much they. did I know they did a few promotional shows and whatnot but I would almost say that Timman was almost like a precursor to grunge yeah I mean if if I can borrow
Starting point is 00:41:09 from Gen Z it was it was giving down it was it was given Soundgarden it was giving Allison Chains it was borderline it was somewhere in between like early smashing pumpkins and I know when we say grunge you just automatically non-grunch heads will just think like, oh, smells like teen spirit or, you know, that sort of thing. But I mean, yeah, like, I realized that, oh, Bowie's fan base had the younger generation after the same thing with Prince. If you remember that Prince got booed at the Rolling Stones, opening for the Rolling Stones
Starting point is 00:41:48 back in 81, like baby boomers were not Prince's audience. Prince was the older brother of Gen X. So, you know, some three or four years later, that audience is going to grasp the prince. And yeah, it's weird that even I would say that all Bowie fans should probably revisit 10 men or at least try to find them in concert. It was actually awesome. Like if you're a fan of grunge, I would say that they're the precursor to that. So, but that's my opinion. A win is a win.
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Starting point is 00:47:29 And then I found out about Pink Floyd. I hadn't heard Pink Floyd before. I remember being like, oh, it's like 15, riding in the back of my friend's car, and she starts playing, what is it, dark side of the moon? Yeah. And I was like, what the hell is this? This is so many different types of music. This is like jazz.
Starting point is 00:47:53 This is like, I never heard any type of music like it. I remember hearing it in the back of a, it was a Buick LaSalle. I remember hearing it, and I remember getting so excited. Because I didn't know you could do music like that. know you could take everything like that and mix it together without psychedelics no psychedelics i just i'm just getting a ride home from school oh wow that's what's that have you have you ever done the wizard of eyes test to it no i've heard about have you heard about it i've heard about it yeah yeah yeah it's a up until maybe the end of money it literally it really does if it's perfect is the
Starting point is 00:48:30 reason of all that's essential is it i thought that was for the wall and not dark side on the third line war you're supposed to start you're supposed to start the record on the third line war of mgm and literally it plays perfectly even when it turns into color that's when the uh the bells and money starts money yeah they start doing the dance and all that stuff and then towards the end it's like okay now he definitely did it up until money i'll say that much have you ever watched the wall Oh yeah. I first saw the wall in the, like the wall was the first pandemic film that I watched before I started obsessing over Fantasia.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And I don't know, man. I, it's almost like we, we owe Roger an apology letter because I know that, you know, for all intents and purposes, like we credit Michael Jackson for video innovation. but for that thing to come out in 1979 which is basically pretty much you know if you were to take like the 15 best videos you've seen on MTV for the first
Starting point is 00:49:40 four years like between 81 and 85 then I would say like the wall was all that in 1979 and he just never truly got the credit like again I discovered the wall in 2020 like long after after that fact.
Starting point is 00:49:58 So I, you know, I highly recommend it. But I mean, yeah. And when I was in high school, I was like a cult classic, like you had to sit down and watch the wall. We all knew it was something special. And everybody was, you know, trying to experiment with drugs and watch the wall. And we're at a party the walls on. Like, that was like the cool thing, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yep. I recommend it. You know, before 2020, I really wasn't big on drinking or psychedelics at all. like an occasional cookie or a gummy of that sort of thing but you know most people say like you should experience it outside i i'm i'm still not an outside person i want to be inside when i do it because i don't know fear fear of control or whatever but someone suggested to me to watch fantasia and there's two verbs there's fantasia and then fantasia two which came out in 2000. Without psychedelics, you'll see something in that movie. But with it, oh my God, there's,
Starting point is 00:50:58 there's a, it's a whole other level of like I use that pretty much. I'd watch it like once, maybe twice a week while kind of making. And then after that, I would get ideas for Summer of Soul. Like, oh, why don't I do this and that and this, that? And kind of the panic level of summer of Souls editing, I would say was really inspired just by like ideas. I had from doing that. Sometimes you have to get into someone else's art in order to create your own. I want to ask it. So did you start Bermuda Triangle before the Alabama Shakes? No, that was after. Okay, after. So Alabama Shakes was your first, your first group. Can you talk about the formation of that? So I, you know, I was in high school and I had been looking for people to play with.
Starting point is 00:51:47 and I've seen a couple of guys in my school that were interested in music, playing music, and they were dedicated to it. And so I really wanted to meet them. I was trying to figure out some younger than them. And me being me, I was like, why would they want to talk to me? Like, I'm younger than them. I look different than them. We don't travel in the same groups.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I don't know how I'm going to have my end. So I went and made a little demo like by myself. And I used to use like audacity. So it was like super easy to record with sounded terrible back in the day. And so I brought him a CD and I was like, hey, this is to Zach, bass player, who later became the bass player of Alabama Shigs. I was like, hey, I made this music. I don't know. I just wanted if you ever want to come like jam on me sometime, play music with me sometime.
Starting point is 00:52:30 He was like, yeah, let's go listen to it. So we go to the parking lot at high school, sitting his Honda chord. And he plays it. He's like, oh, this is cool. He's like, yeah, I like to come over and play. So that's a spot when I was like 15, 16, and me and Zach started playing every day. And we were learning how to play, like, at the time, it was like prog rock. So we're, like, doing yes.
Starting point is 00:52:49 And King Crimson. We're, like, learning that kind of stuff. This is new to me, but I'm fascinated by it because it's all really technically difficult stuff. And we started writing together. And we made a demo. And Heath, who later became a guitar player for the shakes, heard that. And was like, I want y'all to open, like, can y'all open for my band? And I was like, man, we don't even got a band.
Starting point is 00:53:10 It's just like us. So we went down to the music store. and the best drummer in town worked at the music store. We only have one music store in town. Hey man, you want to come play with us? He's like, I don't know. We showed him our demo.
Starting point is 00:53:23 He's like, I'll check it out. I'll come by. I'll see what y'all are about. So then we start playing together. And then we opened up for Heath's group. And honestly, that's like what did it. The first time we played together, we knew that we had something.
Starting point is 00:53:36 And so we started them working on our own material. And that later became Alabama Shakes, the four of us. I got hip to you guys via Jack White. It was pretty much like, you know, screwing from the mountaintops about you guys and whatnot. For you, did you have any expectations of where this journey was going to take you in terms of like... I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:54:00 From the time we started a band, which I'm saying we started a band when I probably had just graduated high school, 2007. I'd say like that's really when we started playing our own shows with our own music. And then I feel like whenever boys and girls came out with like 2012. It's like 2011. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't that long, but we played all the time and we played for no money. And all we did was get together Tuesdays and Thursdays and write new music, write new music,
Starting point is 00:54:27 write new music, work on the set, work on the set. And to me, it was like miraculous that anything happened at all. Because at a certain point, I just, I just like accepted that I was going to be a mail carrier. I was going to deliver mail and I'll play music on the side and that was going to be my life. I was okay with that. Well, let me ask because I'm curious about band dynamics, like anyone being a band or unit in, you know, post-millennial times, it's almost like a, it's like aliens landing because, you know, pretty much life is built for the solo artist post-2000. And when the ban is forming, is there a general agreement like of who the leader is? Or is it like a thing where it's like, okay, is democracy and we all have a say or like, how do you handle banned decisions and whatnot?
Starting point is 00:55:25 Like how do you deal with those dynamics? For us, it was a democracy. We honestly communicated a lot why or why not we shouldn't do something. right and the better you were and just talking about your feelings usually the more what's that the more it will go your way because the better the better you were communicating why you didn't want to do this it was it was almost like in a court of law but it came from an emotional place I really don't want to do this because X, Y Z this is cheesy this is that this is yeah yeah you know if you were quieter you didn't get as much as your way because
Starting point is 00:56:06 Like nobody's hearing what you have to say. But we would all sit down and talk, you know. Okay. I would assume that the reception of boys and girls was not overwhelming, but it was definitely, you know, to come out the gate. And I'm speaking as a person that took four attempts to finally come out the gate. What is it like on your debut to come out the gate and instantly become critical darlings? What is that feeling?
Starting point is 00:56:39 Surreal. So absolutely surreal. You describe like the first moment when you realize like, oh shit, we're, we're really going to be a thing? Yeah, I do. I do remember it. It popped in my head as soon as you said it. I remember it was in Nashville. We're on Broadway.
Starting point is 00:56:57 And there's like the secret club. I don't know. I don't know anything about that life. We had just got through playing the Blue Room with Jack White. Jack White invited us to play his third man records. And I was excited to me Jack White, because I love the white stripes. And then there's Kings Leon is there. And I, at the time, like, I had like the first two records that loved Kings Leon.
Starting point is 00:57:19 And they're coming up to me and they're like, oh, you know, I think you're going to make it. Like all this stuff, you know. And I'm like, these guys tell me I'm going to make it. And so I remember going to the secret little bar after the show. And, you know, it was kind of fancy. I'd never been in that environment before. And I remember there's a balcony outside. It was me and the drummer Steve.
Starting point is 00:57:41 And I go out there and Steve was crying. And I was like, I looked at him. I was like, why are you crying, Steve? He was like, I just think, I really think we're gonna do something. And I was like, damn, you think so. And then I started crying. And we're just out there. Having this emotional moment that's like,
Starting point is 00:57:57 I can't believe this is happening to us. It was just all of our circumstances. It was just like such a miracle happening in our lives. It was just like, it's like Superman came in to save you, you know? Right when you needed it, huh? Yeah, it's like right on time. So much in my life at the poverty line. And now I had an opportunity for the first time ever, you know.
Starting point is 00:58:15 So that's what it felt like. You all collectively moved to Nashville or? No, I was the first one to move to Nashville. And that was later. It was like much later. Yeah. I say Nathans for a long time. I'm being told that Nashville is pretty much the last bastion of hope.
Starting point is 00:58:33 for the serious musician. Is it that like every singer-songwriter I know, especially now, like I peep one person's Instagram feed and suddenly, you know, like when you peep one Instagram feed, your algorithms were suddenly, I didn't realize the staggering amount of songwriters. And I just thought like, oh, it must be just country. No, it's every musician is like,
Starting point is 00:58:58 I got to go to Nashville to make it. The way that an actress is like, I got to go to Hollywood. What is it about Nashville that just calls out, not even a musician, you? What is it? What is it? From me, it was a practical thing. Nashville airport goes a lot of different places.
Starting point is 00:59:20 That's really all it was. And I had, you know, when I moved there initially, so I'm from a small town, Nashville was kind of like, besides Birmingham, that was the next biggest town. That's where you could go see the band you want to see. You could go see live music. So I was always going up there to go see bands. And so I made friends up there. So naturally I wanted to go to be where my friends were.
Starting point is 00:59:40 So that's how I ended up in Nashville. But I stay in Nashville because it's practical. Like my family is an hour and a half away. The airport's 15 minutes away. Now I have good friends in the city. And that's, I mean, I'm not going to say I get up and watch a lot of music. I don't. I'm kind of a homebody.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I just want to say congratulations, Brittany Howard. You've continued a long tradition. of Questlove's Supreme Antics where I will romanticize something. And then my interview subject just takes this and does this. But there is a beauty to Nashville. I've only lately, I had never been there in my whole life up until the last five years because of the whole, because they have the Black Music Museum now in Nashville, which I'm on a small board for. But also witnessing like Black Americana and some of those bands and the rise of like Black folks
Starting point is 01:00:30 claiming their country again is a beautiful. It's beautiful. It is beautiful. It is beautiful. And I do love that about Nashville. And I actually love the younger people that live there now and the music that they're doing. It's actually really exciting. We got like house clubs now.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Well, I don't know if I should say that. But like, we have house parties now. Y'all know what else? Brittany is something? Not house music, but actual house. Yeah. Joint meaning or? Well, it's like, you know, everything they do is legal.
Starting point is 01:00:59 That's what I'm saying. I'm saying. Okay. No, no, I thought you meant house music. I was like, oh, club culture is coming to Nashville. I get it. No, that is what I'm saying. That is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Oh, okay. Yeah, and they get their own speaker systems together, and it's cool. It's like really cool. It's really lively. I'll go out, I'll go to that, but not for long because I like to sleep nowadays, but like, I'll go for a couple hours. You know what I mean? And there's that happening in Nashville.
Starting point is 01:01:23 That's cool. And there's a part of me that almost wants the gatekeep it to keep it, to keep it pure, because Nashville you have to keep in mind. It's also tourist town. but we also had to live in a tourist town so you don't want me coming colonizing your precious national Amazon already moved to Nashville
Starting point is 01:01:37 honey it's official it's gone it's over it's over oracles moving in it's over it's over we got top golf hey don't front on top golf what you know about top golf Amir yeah I'm a human being like you
Starting point is 01:01:51 I do what do I know about top golf what do you what human being do you know what human being do you know will invite every walk of life to game night. That's true. I'm Dr. Game Night.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Of course I'm not top of all. We used to do the bowling 20 years. You got to keep the going. I got it. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,
Starting point is 01:02:44 and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes,
Starting point is 01:03:08 follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man.
Starting point is 01:03:38 A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? I'm Ago Wodam. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot.
Starting point is 01:04:34 I don't know what that means, but I just know the grand. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.
Starting point is 01:05:01 It would not be on a calendar of, you know. The cat, just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest.
Starting point is 01:05:25 The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. from hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Listen to the Sports Slice Podcasts on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a
Starting point is 01:06:05 The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in someone's, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfectant. They would uncover a disturbing pattern.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Gillespie and Michael Maranini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges.
Starting point is 01:06:54 This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I will ask at its height, was there a moment when, and again, my obsession with how people can create and do bands together, the same questions I ask Fonte with little brother, is there a moment where it stops being fun or, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:29 when you, when you released your first solo record, I was like, oh oh, like. Because often when people release a solo record, I'm hoping that they realize that you can go off and do separate projects, but you can always come back to home base and keep the brand alive or keep my dream alive. I won't say the dream, but, you know. Yeah, because I want to see more bands in existence. So in a way that you can express it without it being awkward,
Starting point is 01:08:00 what was the decision that led up to breaking up the band? We have been working incredibly hard for a long number of years. And it came to a point where people got to go home and live their lives, but I had never really got to live my life because I was working on the next album. Or I was doing this. I was doing that. And it's like I was just tired. Just tired.
Starting point is 01:08:28 And it was like a hard decision because those are my brothers. You know what I'm saying? And like we, all of our lives experience this miracle at the same time. We saw the world together and we created beautiful things together. It's really difficult to choose myself. I'll be honest. It's difficult to take care of my own mental, spiritual, emotional health. But there's a choice I made because I wasn't enjoying creating.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Nothing was coming to me. I was kind of tired of the whole business. I was, it was like I didn't even like music no more. You know what I mean? It's just like, I think it was just overworked. And it was the, it was the kind of situation where it's like, even if I took a break, I don't know if I would come back. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:09:11 There's nobody's fault. It's just conditional. Yeah. I would think that would actually be more of a business or more of a burden now that everything's going to fall on you. Like, I'm certain that as a solo artist, yes, you could complete autonomy in terms of how you sign. want stuff to sound or songs you want to do or whatever control that it is that you want
Starting point is 01:09:35 or musically how you want it to sound but i would figure that it's even more of a burden that way for you was it a matter of like song choices what you wanted to do or how you wanted some of the sound or arrangements or level of musicianship like what was it about being a solo artist that made you say look this is the end of the road and i i have to do this now. I think what you're saying is part of it. It's all kind of part of it. Wanting to hear what it sounds like if I create something without anybody editing it is part
Starting point is 01:10:11 of it. Like what if I can just do this on my own? What if I can just write music like this on my own? I need the right recipe. I need the right parts. You know, it's like it's just a freedom, a creative freedom. And I thought life is short. I think it's worth giving that a shot, giving that chance, see what I can do with it.
Starting point is 01:10:27 That's part of it. And as far as having a burden being a solo artist, I just feel like there's not as much of a burden as you would think. Because at the end of the day, when I don't want to do this anymore, I'm not having to affect other people's lives as much as I was in the shakes. Like if I said I don't want a tour this year, that's affecting all of them. And what if I don't want to go back out? That's affecting all of them all of the time. So you're kind of tied together. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:55 And when you're on your own, it's like. the ship sinks or the ship sells like and it's all up to me so it's a different type of fulfillment you know what I mean I'd like to know because you are you were an intersectional and interracial band how hard is it to get people to understand culturally where you're coming from when you're kind of a kind of alone but still in a crowd of people like is it easy to explain things? Are they sensitive to these things? Or was it always a teachable lesson? And not even with your bandmates, but just as you guys are operating as a band. I think that's a good question. It's like nothing we ever really had to talk about. It was just, this is me. This is my expression. This
Starting point is 01:11:46 how I feel about this. We never had really have, we never really had to have conversations. because by the time, like when we're talking about the band, by the time the band kind of concluded, we had all grown a lot in a lot of different ways. And it kind of got to the point where I was just like, well, I don't want any of my expressions to affect you or vice versa. How I feel about something shouldn't affect you and how you feel about something. You know, it started to become a little bit more like, how do I say? like some of us were different that's all yeah we just grew into different people
Starting point is 01:12:23 difference yeah you worked on sound and color with one of my favorite uh producers uh blake mills can you describe what that process was like working with him sure yeah there were there were some songs um so usually when i come to the studio i have everything already demoed out like how i wanted to sound and it don't sound good yet but it's just the ideas there and i'll have all the parts laid out and there was um a few Two songs I just couldn't seem to get finished. Working with Blake was cool because we both just put our heads together and tried to figure out where we can take this thing.
Starting point is 01:12:58 And one of the songs, you know, I had like a song called The Greatest. And it was like a slow kind of ballad thing. And he was like, oh, I just speed it up. There you go. There was. Now it's like this punk rock thing. It was really cool. It was like a Ramones type thing.
Starting point is 01:13:11 And I liked that. And then there was like obviously getting the sounds and tones and we're working with Sean Everett. And we were, all of us were like a part of that process, especially like the mixing and the finding the different sounds. And then I think for like the final song finishing some of the lyrics to the thing was Gemini, song Gemini finishing lyrics to that. And the process was like having Blake work with you is like it's nice to have someone like light of fire underneath you and keep you on task. Because I feel like sometimes as songwriters, musicians, having an idea of
Starting point is 01:13:47 finishing it is a whole it's a whole thing yeah yeah could you talk about what the process was like producing your own records like being in total control of it and and kind of using that as your not soapbox or pulpit like that being your confessional kind of project can you can you explain just the process of making the Jamie record yeah it was actually kind of a supernatural process, to be honest with you. I went to Panga in a, you know, it's like that mountain outside LA. And it's got like the hip, they said there's hippies there. I didn't meet any. But I rented this house and I had like three songs. And I knew that and three, I think
Starting point is 01:14:38 was like three weeks a month. I had to go into the studio and I had to record and I didn't have anything. And I wasn't getting anything. Like I don't smoke weed, but I like went by some And I sat down and I was like I got to connect with the muse. I have to get inspired. I don't have anything. I called a psychic and the psychic was like, oh, you already got, she's like, you already got it in a bag, the record's already done. I was like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:14:59 She's like, you already have the songs. You just got to find them. I was like, that doesn't make any sense. So now I'm miserable because I don't waste of money on the psychic. But I have four songs and I go to the studio and I tell Sean, I don't know, is what I got let's get the band in here let's do these and maybe as the days go by i'll find time to create some new ones i don't know as we would sit down with the band have lunch we'd have these conversations and then they would just say like a particular word like one of the words was jehovah's
Starting point is 01:15:31 witness and i had remembered right when they said it oh my god i have a project and logic called jehovah's witness and it was cool because i've been named my projects like whatever because i have to I have to name them before I can save them on my system. So I had to get someone all the way back in Nashville to send me entire projects. And that's how I got the album together. It would be every day going in and someone would just say a phrase. And I'd be like, that's a song. Now I have the song Baby.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Now I have to song Goathead. And all these things are getting pulled in. And like it just came together like that. It was crazy. It's like I did already have them. So the psychic was right. Like it was technically correct. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:15 What was the inspiration? Because actually, to be honest, I forgot where I was, but I shazam something. I heard, uh, uh, said the kid singing and I shazammed it. And I realized I didn't, I didn't know at the time that you actually remixed the Jamie album or had a slew of people from, Ninth Wonder and Georgia and Bad Not Good and and I think uh Chalda Gambino right yeah yeah Glover worked on the join too right so I got deep into that what was what was the process of doing that because it was almost like a whole new
Starting point is 01:16:57 album yeah I mean the process was like first things first I just want to reach out to people whose music and ideas I really respect what if y'all wanted to remix one of these songs real quick what would it sound like if you did it And honestly, like everybody was super excited to do it. And every time a new song would come in, I would get so excited. And I run out to my car and I just sit there and listen to him, be blown away. Like Little Dragon did some stuff. Fredigan did some stuff.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Michael Kalanuka did some stuff. And this is like people I've always kind of wanted to work with. And this is kind of an easy way to get to work together. The overall is the song and the material is already there. Just rearrange it. Like, how would you have done it? And it was so interesting to listen to. It was so cool.
Starting point is 01:17:41 such a cool project. It reminds me of like the Verve remix projects. Like you just did their own thing in your album. Yeah, it's really dope. Can I just ask, you talked about a lot of things self-care wise in this conversation. I'm curious how it's evolved now that you are by yourself and you have to figure out all of these, you know, everything has changed in the dynamic. Although you have this whole next level of freedom, you also have a next level of attention. So what does that?
Starting point is 01:18:09 Yeah. Responsibility. like Ponte said, like, so what does self-care on a daily look for you, look like for you? On the daily, so I do meditation, I do transdital meditation. So I've been doing that for, I guess, a couple years. Yeah. Helps a lot. How much time? How much time do you spend on it? That's 20 minutes twice today. Team small. Yeah. That's why I was late to this, John. Oh, okay. Excuseed, excuse. Well, that create, you know, it's amazing what it does. It creates a lot of space in my life. I got one of minds that runs all day and when I lay down, don't want to stop
Starting point is 01:18:43 running, you know. So that, that's really helpful and gives me patience for anything that I come up against. It gives me space for people who love me and who I want to take care of. Helping be a better performer because I'm not overwhelmed and I'm stressed out all the time because it's, you know, it just can be very stressful. You have anxiety performing? No, I don't have anxiety performing, But, you know, performing to me is really, it's the pinnacle of what I do. Like, I love making records. I also love performing. And when I perform, I really do try my best, man.
Starting point is 01:19:18 And, like, it's just, it's the point where I get to be free. Like, in my physical form, I get to be free. Nobody can touch me. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is my space. This is my thing. We feel that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:30 And I just, I spend, like, when I'm on tour now, I just spend all of my time making sure I'm ready for that. thing you know that's the most important thing when I'm out here I want to ask you work on this new record with a good buddy of mine Nate Smith yeah Nate what's it like collaborating with him and how'd you guys meet and start working together so I love Nate I'm a drummer at heart I love drummers right I've been I've been a fan of you Questlove for a very very long time you and you know all yeah very long time and um course And I had been started, I started to see Nate and I started to see the way he played.
Starting point is 01:20:10 And I thought the way he played was so interesting, but it's so emotional. Of course, it's super technical, but there's also just so much feeling in it when he's playing. And I just started watching on his videos and I thought to myself, before I made the album, Jamie, if I'm going to get any drummer to play on this, who would it be? And I just, because I had just found him and it just kind of broke off into watching his videos, I was like, I'm just going to ask him. It's going to ask Nate. Let's see if he'll do it.
Starting point is 01:20:36 And he said yes. Came to the studio. We made that album together. And then I was like, we go on the road with me. And I had to look convincing. We didn't know each other that well. He said yes.
Starting point is 01:20:47 And now I get to play with him like every night all the time. He's just incredible. He's just incredible. I feel like the luckiest person. I get to be on stage with someone, like a musician like that. Does he only play three drums on the road? He has like a kick, a snare and a high hat. That's like his shit.
Starting point is 01:21:04 It's like the Questlove method. It's like all you need, right? Does he have more drums on the road? Not during my show. We got him playing everything. He got two kick drums, two tombs, two snares, SPD pad. Yeah. Brittany, can I ask you about the visuals for this album or at least for the first, the single?
Starting point is 01:21:23 And tell me about like, I'm just curious too because again, you on your solo, you on your solo join. So tell me about what you, just how it even came to fruition and to the album cover. Because what we're seeing today is not how you perform as well. the whole so for the visuals for the album cover it's I really I really like movies I really like Japanese movies and Korean movies and I like Kira Kurosawa and the Kira Kurosawa's got this movie called dreams and I never hear people really talking about it this most beautiful movie and the things he was trying in that film are incredible colorful unique storylines you kind of show up and you're supposed to just know what's going on it's like all this like focal
Starting point is 01:22:06 And at the same time, he's weaving in his own life story. And it's all just very deep and metaphorical. I was very inspired by that visual, like the visual elements from that film. And so when I went to do my album cover, I wanted it to feel kind of like a dream. Where it's like, you're sitting in a place that is seemingly like very beautiful and very comfortable. But in truth, there's like a storm in the background and there's rattlesnakes and the flowers and it's 20 degrees outside. outside because that was the reality. The reality was that's not AI.
Starting point is 01:22:39 I woke up at 220 a.m. to drive up. That's not AI? That's not AI. That's real, real. And then the video. And then the video for what now? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:53 So the song, what now, it kind of reminds me of like Michael Jackson. It kind of reminds me of like this nostalgia from when I was a kid, like Robocop. I don't know, like like like. Yeah, just like the Vaseline on the lens effect. Like, so that's what I, that's what I wanted to give it. I wanted to give it this kind of like Matrix, like ninja, like robocop, like, like, just aesthetic to it. Because the song to me.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Because you're hardly in it. No, I don't like being. I don't like being in music videos. Takes too long. Smart. Like that's the Aerosmith way. Yeah, it's exhausting. A win is a win.
Starting point is 01:23:29 A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clipper Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
Starting point is 01:23:50 This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.
Starting point is 01:24:15 So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Rule one, never. mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
Starting point is 01:25:02 I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Vodam. My next guest, you know from Stepbrothers, Anchorman, Saturday Night Live,
Starting point is 01:25:38 and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Farrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with him one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up-and-coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to thanks, Dad, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on the Sports Sliced podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko, joins the Sports Sliced podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar, this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 01:27:11 And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in someone's, correct? I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Alespie and Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police.
Starting point is 01:28:02 As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'd be remissive. I didn't ask.
Starting point is 01:28:30 What was it like to record at Sound Emporium? For those that don't know, Sound Emporium in Nashville is like a legend flakendary studio owned by rsea records like all the greats have recorded there i was surprised it's still up in operational and running um and my beat side of that question is how did you wind up with prince's uh board yeah sound important is great you know um first and foremost i want to i want a real chamber, like wherever I'm recording. They got one of those. I want a big room, so I want to be able to position mics wherever I need to, or if I had like a binaural mic in the center room, I want to be able to space things out as far as I want to. If I want to throw my voice,
Starting point is 01:29:17 I can be in a corner room. I got plenty of space to do this. Got plenty space to do whatever you want. So that's one of the things I love about sound and porium. And they already got all the gear you need. They got the tape machines. You know, you're not calling in and they're bringing this stuff. They got a lot of the, they have a great board. I think they just got like a, have a Neve board which I really really really liked but now they got this API board it's it's nice too it's good I like it so soundpoint shot them out I'll keep going there as long as they'll have me I love it there it's like home way from home at this point nice now when it comes to Prince's console yeah it didn't belong to Prince himself this has been getting all over the world it's like
Starting point is 01:29:51 a game of telephone Chris Moon so Prince you know he recorded his first album twice yeah it was like in the Bay area this board had been in Minneapolis but the It's an MCI board, but the fellow who had it wanted to take it to the Bay Area with him. So he took it from Minneapolis to like, I don't know, somewhere around San Francisco. That album got recorded. The first time Prince did he said he said he didn't like it. You know, we all know that story because the other musicians were playing. So then he scrapped that.
Starting point is 01:30:22 And where he went and recorded, the actual album was a different board. So that's just the providence of it. And the fella who had took it to there, then took it to Nashville. And that's how it got Nashville and that's how I got a hold of it. Of course, when I paid for it, I didn't buy it because it was Prince's board. I just saw this like MCI board with the MCI tape machine that comes together kind of moment. And I was like, yeah, I want that. There's, I forget the studio it was, but when Jill Scott first moved to Nashville,
Starting point is 01:30:53 we shot the video for whatever the first single was of her album in the studio. And coincidentally, the API board that recorded the Purple Rain record and subsequently around the world in the day is also in Nashville. And I'm like, wow, why is Nashville becoming the landing spot for all of Prince's gear? That's interesting. Have you ever recorded in Jack White's studio or went there? Third man. Um, yeah. Oh, third man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think. Yeah, I think the shakes did some like singles over there at third man. Okay. Yeah. And also been to his place. He has a studio at his place too. And I went over there a long time ago and did a couple of singles with him. Yeah. Brittany, how much stuff like these days, is it, are you doing that it's digital base versus analog based?
Starting point is 01:31:57 It seems like this, what you're just talking about about chambers and binaural mic seems very analogy to me, but like some of the sounds seem very digital. I don't know. Like where, what do you do, are you consciously like making decisions based on that kind of thing or just kind of all just all, just all, just all, just all a bunch of paint and you're just painting with all of it? Um, so I, so when I start off doing my demos, it's usually digital because it's handy. I can, pull from lots of different ideas really quickly. So I'll start there, but I know ultimately I want to do something analog. To me, and you know, everybody has an opinion about this, but to me, the analog is just more fun because you can accidentally do shit with analog that is just because there's a wiring problem or this one sounds different than that one. Why is that? It's just like there's something to it. There's something in the wiring and the circuitry in the tubes.
Starting point is 01:32:50 And then putting everything down the tape, just kind of is like a nice way of smushing everything together. It's just like so like it's such a small detail, but I really do think I can feel and hear the difference. And personally, when I'm making music, it's more fun. It's just more fun. All right. Before we wrap up, I don't want to be intrusive, but you did bring it up.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Can you share with me what your mantra word is in your TM? I can't. You know, I can't. Ah, come on. I'm not gonna tell you that word. Can you show you what the hell that mean? Yeah, all right. So when you, when you do T.M.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Like, like, yeah, transit, yes. So, all right, when I first got introduced to meditation, of course was in the pandemic. And I felt the world was fucking coming to an end. So I became like a meditation obsessive. I was going about it all wrong. Like I was doing, I would do like two hours to two and a half hours in the morning before I get out of bed of anything.
Starting point is 01:33:49 DMT meditate, like every type of breath of fire, all that stuff. And then I do an additional two hours before I go to bed. And a friend was like, wait, you meditate four hours a day? Yeah, how do you have that time? I was the world's time. Pandemic is. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:06 All I had was DJ for five hours and work on Bitter on Summer's Soul, but I was doing nothing. And I was just like, I need to keep my sanity. I need to keep my sanity. And they were basically like, all right, that's cute, but you're doing it wrong. And you really. And so he gave me a clip. Weird enough, Jerry Seinfeld has a clip on YouTube of all people in the world.
Starting point is 01:34:31 And he's like, the key to my success is TM, transmeditation. And, you know, I met him maybe seven months later. and I asked him about it. I was like, so what did you mean the key to your success? And he's like, well, we were break for lunch on Seinfeld. And instead of me going to lunch, I'm 45 minutes, I'll go to my trailer. And I'll do TM for like maybe 10 to 15 minutes, always. And then I'll go about my day.
Starting point is 01:35:06 And I was like, well, I don't get it. 10, 10 minutes, I do four hours. And he started laughing like, you're doing it wrong. And so basically there's a gentleman named Bob Roth who I got put on to. And what it is is that you're assigned a word and you're supposed to keep that word unique to yourself. I've talked to some people and, you know, we trade it off words, whatever. But yes, you're supposed to keep it to yourself. And you're basically supposed to sit.
Starting point is 01:35:35 So I sit in this office and I sit in the dark and pretty much you say your mantra. your chant if you remember what's love got to do with it um young whole ring and killed right exactly or if you're a fan of what's happening now food so like a lot of right I'm joking about what's happening but yeah I mean even you know that's words but some people just sit in um sometimes I get lazy and don't do the the chant and I'll just sit hmm and And what it does is just basically, if you live a life in which you got to make panic decisions with seconds left on the clock. Like I live in a constant state of panic where it's, you know, this guy deadline and that deadline and where's your notes from da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 01:36:31 And your 10 minutes later, me, and that sort of thing. So sometimes you just got to sit for 10 minutes in silence. It's what keeps your sanity. because if you don't do that, you're going to drink. I need a drink. I need something. So I'd rather when I get to the place. And even though we were talking before we started recording,
Starting point is 01:36:55 I had probably one of the most stressful nights of my life last night. So I had to do therapy and TM like old school with me or like an hour. So it's the thing that keeps you from. making rash decisions that will affect the rest of your life or unfortunately for some people in their life. So with that said, I actually want to, you know, thank you, especially with the way that the album is crafted with the interludes. And, you know, in the same vein as what Andre is doing with his project. Like, I love the fact that post-pandemic times we're getting new versions of black artistry. because oftentimes like we're very close to the chest when it comes to being vulnerable and
Starting point is 01:37:45 and letting our feelings out there and and sharing with people so yeah congratulations on doing that's really inspirational and thank you for doing the show with us brit thanks much yeah congratulations on freedom oh man appreciate that appreciate that thank you we can we can see it and hear it on you your freedom it's awesome i'm taking some of it thank you and i appreciate that because know like this process of people just probing into your life and all those things is the part of the music biz that is the most uncomfortable where we just want to sing and whatnot but thank you it's it's good to give somebody their flowers that's just as uncomfortable as I am with taking it and listen and happy women's history month because you're always making history in my book this
Starting point is 01:38:32 this voice is historic and hey thank you so much thank you so much appreciate it yeah all right So on behalf of Fonticolo, Laiaa and Sugar Steve and brand new bill. That's why I got to give you a new. I got a nickname every day. I'll take bread. I'm sorry, Superior. We got new hononickers on Laia. Oh, for Bill?
Starting point is 01:38:52 Brand new bill and superior. Again, Superior Steve. Yeah, Steve. I love it. Yeah. Bill and Brittany done the day, y'all done the street together? Britney's never been on the street. I don't think.
Starting point is 01:39:04 Bernie, you ain't been on the street. Damn. We got Brittany on the street. She is perfect for the street. She's just perfect in general. I mean, yeah, that's true. Okay. All right, I'll take that today.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Hey, thank you. Yes, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So until the next time, ladies and gentlemen, this was Questlove Supreme. We'll see you on the next go around. Thank you.
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