The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: Erika Alexander Part 2

Episode Date: April 27, 2024

Erika Alexander continues her incredible QLS interview with a candid conversation about how executives treated Living Single as compared to other popular 1990s sitcoms. Erika also speaks about her astonishing recent run, including a dazzling role in American Fiction and memorable performances in Get Out and Wu-Tang: An American Saga. This conversation is pure joy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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with the incredible Erica Alexander. If you have not heard, part one, please check that out before this. In that episode, Erica spoke about her upbringing, living in Arizona and New Mexico before moving to Philly. She really opened up about her experiences playing Cousin Pam on the Cosby Show and Maxine on Living Single,

two very memorable roles. One thing I want to add, too, is that you won't hear me. One thing I want to add, too, is that you won't hear me or unpaid bill in this part, too, because one thing I want to add, too, is that you won't hear me or unpaid bill in this part, too, because they're... So here's the thing.

When, of course, it's revealed that, you know, living singles' main sort of influence, of course being right and you've talked about this time and time again about friends

but I do want to know because here's the deal I had to go to the Warner Brothers lot maybe like a month ago I did a cameo on Abbott Elementary which I think

might be on right now as we speak and I remember seeing an interview where you were like yeah you know we were on the same lot you know both shows

Warner Brothers shows and I I go there now and of course, you know, you'll go past the, the, wherever. What do you call it like the buildings that they build sets? Like, oh, the house. The sound stages. Lord have mercy. We got to do it away.

Right. You know, I always wanted to know what soundstage you guys were on because they now mark off like, this is where Ozzie and Harriet and da-da-da-da-da, and friends and da-da-da. And I wanted to know where the living single one was. But. But we weren't there. We were on the ghetto lot. I'm not kidding.

Right. So not even in that whole area, a whole different area, location, address, you're saying? Yeah. It was something called the ranch. And they had all the big shows or all the shows with light casts on the big lot. And we were on the ranch lot. We didn't have air conditioning. What?

No, we had to, we staged a walk out. because we didn't have craft service correct or, you know, those types of things. Yeah, we were hot at sale on that stage. So, okay, I add, when I asked the ABA of people that, like, okay, so where is this in proximity to where friends? They were like, we are right next door to them. And they were like, that's a big deal to be right next door to where they shot friends. And I briefly mentioned the whole living single thing, but then I got distracted and never

got the answer but obviously to shoot anywhere in proximity to where friends was means that you're going to get treated better like your things work and so you're saying that a lot of those things you actually wanted to stage a walk out that's crazy we did stage a walk yeah really yeah I was very political even then I wrote a letter and I said that you have to understand I've come off of the biggest show in the world right I understood that we weren't going to get those types of nice the Cosby got. But I understood when we were being treated like niggas. Say that.

So wait. With the number one show in America, black and Latino household. We didn't have any air condition at the time. We need to. That's crazy. Advocate for it. Now that they wouldn't do those types of things.

And it's nice to be in proximity to power and things that are, you know, in the zeitgeist. But we were over there building still for the black people were on those sets. That's the sad part of the stories that I wish you would have been able to finish that story. So they understood how much of a real big deal it was

to be there in that moment. Who fought for them to be there? Because that's fucking ridiculous. Everybody put in. Yeah. And real quick, what other shows shot at the ranch? The Wayne's brothers. Oh, wow.

Damn. The way brothers. For a long time, it was mostly us. And then season, three or so the Wayans brothers dropped in. And we had a good time with those young fellas. And then the Walton's actually came to do like a limited series. And I had done a series of something called Common Ground

with Richard Thomas. And we had already been friends. So we said, oh, there goes in the neighborhood. Look at all these white folks. We all got along. We all joked about it. They got it. But yeah, that's who was on that lot before they fixed it up.

We were on the ranch lot. And you know that's the air conditions. That fountain. That fountain. It's on our lot. That wanted to film around that fountain, but they didn't let us. That's why we're behind the couch. Ain't that some shit? Wow. That's, I. The things I learned.

Oh. Was there any truth to the rumor that initially NBC was going to pick up the show initially before it went to Fox? Never. Because we are a Warner Brothers show and we played on Fox. Okay. So Warren Littlefield, the story goes that when we made our first debut, they said, is there anything, there was any show that you saw that you wish was yours? And he said, they're single. And he was the head of NBC.

And then the next year, he created with a different team, friends. I've never heard of the cast member's response to Jay-Z's moonline. video. Jay-Z, infamously, Alan Yang, who directed with the Z's and sorry. Master of None. Yeah, Masters of None. And also, Maya's current series, Lute. Jayze got Alan Yang to basically get the friend set to actually recreate. Do you remember this video?

I remember this. No, I did. Yeah. It was, it, was it, was it, was it four, four, four? was it? Yeah, the moonlight song on 444. What were your feelings of that? I guess once that story broke out and then Jay-Z also gave a statement on it as well.

What were your, did you have a response to that video at all? No, I was unaware of it. Oh, okay. Basically, when that story got out, Jay-Z made a video in which Tessa Thompson, wasn't Issa? Lisa was in it. Tiffany Haddish, Hannibal, and Gerard Carlinckle.

Yeah, yeah. Basically, if I think I did see that. Just wanted to know if you were aware of it, not aware of that. I understand, and I understand that in marketing, that you want to also speak to a wide audience. If you have this huge part of the world that understands that friends is this juggernaut, I'm sure that Jay-Z who understands that you stand next to things you want to shine on you and vice versa. I don't think he needs to stand next to living single.

Okay. And I'm not that he needs to stand next to friends, but I get it. I get it as a branding sort of thing. But was that his homage to living single in a way? Like, was it supposed to feel like, okay. Yeah. It was supposed to feel like this is, we know what the real truth is. Right.

I guess so, but it could also be seen in the opposite. Yes, it can. You're right. You're right, you're right. Yeah. So, but I get it. You know, at 118 episodes, I mean, I mean, that's nothing to sneeze at for, and most shows, basically, if we're really being honest with ourselves, most shows are at their best during a five-season arc, and then it gets a little shaky with season six, seven, eight, you know, they force.

Frazier, Frazier is great. Fraser was consistent all? Pretty, I didn't watch. Yeah, I watched. Yeah, it's pretty consistent. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, even.

I mean, I agree with that five season art, like the favorite, like, I mean, breaking bad. or like the wire like five seasons is kind of it's perfect yeah yeah but we're greedy and so it's like let's ring it for all right like right now fell down a suit's hole and now i'm a little upset that it ended at eight seasons even though oh wow two said it should end it ended at season five or whatever um but are you satisfied with that particular arc like those 118 episodes or do you feel as though And because I'm not too sure by the time you guys ended. Max was pregnant, right? Isn't that how to end it?

Max pregnant and with her going to kind of going to get together. And then Codizia goes off to another country to be with Scooter. Yeah. Well, that was just them wrapping it up. We didn't even really have a cast together like it was. You know, T.C. wasn't really there. That was my comedy partner. That's like I'm dancing with Brett Esther and Ginger and suddenly I got nobody to dance with.

He has loved watching your dance. Yes. There you go. We had a Dallas and we had Mel Williams and things like that. We're starting to be incorporated. I think that it was, again, it found its peak and was starting to round over. You need everybody to be engaged. We're saying very intentional words of writers and they are there building these characters

in these worlds. and if they're not as engaged, then we can only do so. We're like puppets. We can only do so much. I have one last living single, which is totally just off of the character, but I got to know.

One of your directors of the show, John's his first name, J.D. Lubb? That sounds like a weird porn name. I said about it. That's a real name. Are you familiar with J.D. Lubb, L-O-B-E? No.

Okay, see, I would imagine that. on a sitcom, there are a gazillion directors or whatnot. I wanted to know, I know you're looking like, who about? Well, no, no, he, J.D. was sort of the longest director of Soul Train, which I'm absolutely obsessed with. And so the moment that I felt that Soul Train jumped the shark-ish, he had left to go do living single, but, you know, I always just wanted to know what was he like as a director, but you don't remember. Sorry, we ruined your show.

You got a right to go on, quest. So listen. But my question is actually, in sitcom world or in television world, can you explain? To me, it's weird that the director isn't consistent from soup to nuts. Like in most comedies,

they have different directors come in and direct. One, do you know generally why that's a rule? Like, why isn't there just one director and one writing staff? I know staff writers can change throughout the seasons or whatnot, but what does it deal with, like, having multiple directors for a series? Like, why is that? Yeah, I'm not quite sure, but I would imagine that it keeps the show from getting stale.

They're also performers favorites. Some people don't gel with the performers. And if they notice a change or they might want to mix it up so people don't get disrespectful and start just doing what they want. Sometimes it keeps you on your toes. It depends on your cast. If you have a problematic cast or somebody at the lead that's a tough when you mix it up,

I don't know. I just think that that energy, that new and that energy is important. But our shows were mostly directed by Ellen Giddleston. And she knew us very well. So I actually've seen it both ways. I've always been happy with new directors sometime, because I know people are getting a chance to build a resume.

I'm really relieved to see somebody have worked with over and over again, because I don't explain myself. And they know what you're capable of. So they also pull you back if they're saying, oh, come on, Erica, like I wanted to do a whole scene on the floor and they wouldn't let me. And I said, why? You can hear me. But, you know, fine, I'll sit up. I was pissed.

But that was a director I knew. So I kept, I didn't feel like I was pushing it. It's just that these things happened. So I think on a drama, I would say it's because you get burnout. You can't be the same director. You have to prep and do each show. And each show you have to prep. And so it's tough.

But I think with comedy, you're more likely to get returned. directors who are for the most part doing most of the shows because the cast and the writers know that they can pull it off sometimes for you as an actor is there a particular like in terms of comedic acting versus dramatic acting is one more exhausting or kind of strenuous than the other how did no I never thought about that I never have I haven't again I don't have the luxury of choosing my roles And I think that people think that you can. I took the roles that I got.

And if I didn't do well, I tried to do better the next time. So I got dramas at first. And I was known as a drama girl for a very long time. Excuse me. And then I got comedy. And suddenly people are like, oh, you're a comedian type. And they didn't know I did drama. They were surprised.

I'm like, are you kidding? That's what I grew up in. And then I do podcasts. and I do this or that. But what I'm really trying to do is make a living or make a life. Let's talk about it. Preach. I do remember you in the book that Alex Haley didn't get to finish.

Mama's. Mama Flores family. Yes. Okay. Sorry. I got a black Emmy for that, you know. Remember those? There was a black Emmy.

There only had one time ago. And they gave me and Cessley Tyson a black Emmy. And anybody that has it from that award show, it never was done again. I have an Emmy. It's a black Emmy. But it was a black Emmy show, right? Not a black Emmy section. It was a black Emmy show. It was a Black Emmy Award show because they weren't even Black people's awards.

I ain't BeGot. Wow. How come I didn't know this? No, I didn't know anything. I remember. It's a real thing. It only happened once. I'm sure they got sued. See this letter.

But I got one. See, that's why we got to keep telling him. and telling these stories. No, for real. Yeah. You said that. I thought you meant like, yeah, yeah, NAACP award. I didn't realize that there was...

The great Felicia Rashad has no Emmy. Eight years on the top show in the world. Created, helped create must-see TV. They weren't giving black people any awards. They complained now. I'm like, it was a drought and a dirth. So they created the black Emmys and I have one. Yeah, not to move fast forward, boss, but in my mind, I'm like,

So when somebody said to Erica, we got this role for you and get out, she must have been like, a hell yeah. Like, just, no. We get all this. Like, oh. I like to choose great material and then you find it great material chooses you. Uh-huh. So I read the part and thought, oh, this is lovely. But frankly, I thought it was a college student's film.

Okay. So, second, so listen, I often wondered more with us. then get out i obsess with how something looks on paper before it even gets to the screen fonte and i sort of had this debate before especially with us yeah i wasn't big on us i didn't right i liked us but i also chose to invest eight watch-throughs and if you have to watch something eight times to see it's probably a time easter eggs or whatever i still enjoyed it because you know i like looking for Easter eggs and mystery and whatever. No, 100%.

But get out to me on screen was amazing to be whole, but I always wondered what did that script? How did it look on paper at the time and did anyone see what was coming? And the fact that you played such a straight

role in it, I was like, I'm glad she, because when you came I was like, oh boy, it's about to turn up now. But they didn't let you really put your teeth into it, but I don't know. If if you were fine with that. One thing, I thought it was a comedy.

In some ways it was. I did think it was. Remember, my scene is only between me and Little Rail. Right. He comes and tells this outrageous story and I bring in my team and we laugh at him. And that's it. But at first, I am supposed to look like I'm about to get into it. We're going to ratchet it up.

Yeah. Jordan always told me when I came on a screen beside people going, Hey, that's Max. Oh my God. They were like, okay, now something going to happen. Yeah. Right. That's going to happen.

So he would joke and say, we need to make a detective of the Toya movie because they love that character. And that's when I started thinking about the Pink Panther, somebody who is a hapless person who stumbles into success. But it's not because they're looking for it. So, no, on the paper, it looked exactly like it looked. Only Jordan knew how it was going to go. And unless you were part, imagine, you know, there were fantastic actors they had all around.

And they were cutting people's brains open. And you know what I mean? And replacing them. So I wonder if they thought, hey, this is an interesting thing. Let's go do it. He's a great guy. That's what I thought. I love Jordan Pill.

But I can assure you, I had a call from a friend, my co-founder, Ben, at, color farming here and he says, yo, E, I just saw the trailer. Didn't you say you were in a comedy? This is a hard film. And I said, it is. Wait, even then, you didn't realize where he was going with it? Nope. Because you didn't get to read the whole thing.

Did you just read your scenes? I read my scene, but not only that, it was during the election. And I was Hillary Clinton's most traveled surrogate. That's right. I was on the road with my sister. And so. Thank you for your service. And I was doing all.

also at the same time, Queen Sugar. And I was playing there a bipolar character. So I had flown in from Baton Rouge, straight to Alabama, in one night, did all of those things, then went to Harlem for a rally for Hillary. I did it all like this without even looking. Sometimes you just have to go forward. And that was one of those moments. Man.

Tea driving you always. But wait, wait, wait. So did you ever go and sneak into a theater and hear the reaction of people when you come on the screen? Did you get to feel that? Yes, I did get to feel it once. And it was really it. Once? Oh, okay.

Once. Yeah, my first time of seeing it, I saw it in Detroit. So it was all the way live. Very different. Very different. Yeah, I was going to say, I think I watched that film 12 times and purposely chose various. I chose the widest theater in Denver, Colorado, where the film was absolutely silent in parts that.

And then I saw, I went to Magic Johnson to see an evening dog. That's when I was like, oh. Now that's where it's a comedy. Like that's a totally different movie. It's a totally different movie. Yeah. That's hilarious. A win is a win.

A win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

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Oh, my God. Yeah. Let's go. Can you just talk? I think that was maybe the last time. Like, once you're in the industry, you just watch things different. But I do remember, well, one, I was happy because if you were around in the 90s, whatever, Bryce Wilson's groove theory.

Kind of, yeah, Bryce Wilson, his, and I'm understating this, his adoration for Tony Braxton, was well known throughout circles. So the fact that he got to play. in that video like I was like yo he like he he he's made his crush in love for the stalker one right exactly very very much known and so when this sort of came to fruition in a video whatnot like I actually found myself watching the video as like a fan not an industry person even though I experienced everything listening to records watching videos whatever you do like you see it different once you're in it. But to me, that looked so much fun. I was like, wow, like they were

having a talent. What was it like? I was pretty intimidated. Really? Yeah, because, I don't know, Tisha Campbell once asked me about this. She said, Erica, we don't see you out much. You don't go out. And I didn't have, I came in the business when there were no ingenues. They were no going out. there were no young women yet performing and they didn't have many roles for young women. So I didn't come in hanging out. And even though I came up in the hip-hop era and there's Wu-Tang and this and that and I'm in L.A. It was dangerous to go out. You get capped in the ass.

Yeah. So you just didn't hang out. And so that was the first time meeting those people. And so to me, I was a fan. and not something like here I am and they're like they want me to be in that video with Tony Braxton and next to Vivica Fox and blah blah and I get I kind of shut down a little bit when I'm intimidated and so I tried to just do what they told me to do I didn't necessarily know how a music video was shot. It was a learning experience and I was

glad to be there but for the most part I was um if you didn't know I was in there wouldn't know I was in when I think of it I think of you first and maybe I think of Tisha Campbell like but yeah no when when you're there we notice see me always yeah we notice I wanted to ask about Queen Sugar you talk about you know shows that didn't get Emmys or recognition what was it like working on that show because that was just such a beautifully shot show and beautifully lit like you know it was just a beautiful show to watch and why do you know it's just a beautiful show to watch and why do you Could they not announce you? Oh, wow. Ralph Angel. I blame Ralph Angel for me now having subtitles on my title. Ava does everything with intention. Ava Duvinae came in this world with a black power sign stamped on her breast in the front.

It's her shield and it's her mantra. And I think that you see that as an expression of love. And she wants to rebrand black people. That's what I want to do. She wanted to show a family that had land. We came in and we worked the land, but we didn't own that land. And once we owned the land, we were sharecropping for that land. And then we were thrown off the land, and now they say we're not country, and we are country.

So there's all these things mixed in to Queen Sugar. She's talking about money, ownership. She's talking about family. She's talking about generational trauma. She's talking about politics. She's talking about real estate. She's talking about all these things. And she did it.

So I bravo to her. And that's what it was like. You knew when you walked on that you were contributing to something that had very little to do with you, but more to do with how could we tell this story about a, generational family that owned land. Did you see your work in American fiction? You mentioned like re-kind of rebranding black people. Did you see American fiction as an extension of that? For sure. I mean, core Jefferson is made for the moment. I mean, you have to understand. American fiction is a satire. Okay, let's mention the great Jeffrey Wright. You just got one of the

best actors of all times to do it. But that character wants to be free of a narrative that's been keeping him in the cheap seats. He's a spectator in his own life. And his reality, our reality, is much more complicated and complex than the narratives that drive the market. And so we have a problem with these stories that endure because black people have been amazingly successful by catering to those forces. And they've successfully produced, they've supported, and these impoverished narratives.

But this very durable and very self-sustained universe is rejected. So that's the question. Why do we see black people locked in these stereotypes and has blackness become a victim of its own success? And that's what that movie is about. When you're playing a narrative that you don't own and yet you, you know, push it out. so you can be success for you.

I'm surprised we have it all gone. Bad shit crazy. Who say we are? Yeah, I think we have. You right. Yeah. We have. But I also feel like, well, I'm under the impression that the reset of 2020

is what actually allowed us to recharge and come forth. But yeah, I too wonder that. Can I ask you something, though? because it's it's been a minute since a movie sparked any type of conversation especially with me like I'll see a movie like okay it was dope or whatever you know the ending of American fiction or at least I would and we should probably have cord on the show yes we should have court on the show so here's the thing with the last 15 minutes of the show without spoiling the movie for people was talked about

And the thing was, I told the group of people I went to see it with, I said, look, they could easily did a Hollywood ending where all's well that ends well. Now, for me, the ending of that film was much akin to, like, you remember, like, maybe the first seven Spike Lee films really never ended? Right. Right. Yeah, but even think of, do the right thing. Like, it wasn't happily ever after Mo Better Blues was quasi.

Yeah, he found love, but he lost his gift. Right. And for me, the ending of American fiction was not only I felt the right choice of an ending. But, I mean, as a person, and I know I'm not alone, like, I often find myself in that ending where sometimes you're just like, all right, fuck it. You know what I mean? and even though it wasn't the ideal Hollywood ending, I felt that was the most realistic, yeah. The realistic ending, and for those that were just like,

yo, man, what do you think about the ending? And I felt like... That's how that shit go. That was the truth. And it's the sad truth. Did you guys sort of wonder that, like in the film of how it ends? Because even for me, I was wondering, like, okay, when the big revelation happens,

is it redemption for all of us? In my mind, I started predicting, oh, how's this sequel in? I can't wait for this shit to end. And when it ended, I was like, yeah, I guess that's how it is. How did you feel about that at the time? And was that ever a subject of discussion? Were there alternate endings shot for it?

I knew the one I was in. I was in two of them. The happy ending and the more tragic ending. Wait, wait, time out. You're talking about American fiction? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, because you also, I don't know if you inadvertently know this,

I didn't realize that Get Out also had two endings as well. Oh, yeah. Oh, it did. And it showed, yeah. But you saw, I didn't know this. I didn't know this had. Okay. Yeah, we saw all three of ours in the movie.

In American fiction. It felt like it was clue. Yeah. Yeah. Get Out never showed you other things. endings. But I think we have to just take it from the point of view of an author. Okay. And the author has posited this question that and this can be metaverse, by the way, you appreciate this. You guys are all nerds.

Absolutely. Thank you. Jeffrey starts to sit his cognac and write the movie. He goes into a metaverse and makes me wonder what movie are we watching. Is it still his real life? Or is it something he's writing? Wait, was that an Easter egg I missed? That was the third ending, right? You're saying? That was the third ending that we didn't see the fourth ending that we didn't see. I'm saying that there's a lot of things that switch and start to be different once we see Keith David and O.

to start to perform. We start to get the idea that he can manipulate his reality through his fiction. So I think you need to ask the original source material, Percival Everett. because maybe an erasure exactly maybe that's where the true ending lies but they shot the

ending you saw after we were all gone so I was surprised to see the end oh okay so court needs to come in here and stand and deliver because he confused us all

yeah one of my favorite things about that film was I liked how it showed relationship romantic relationships black romantic relationships with people of different ages you know what I'm saying generational yeah that was so beautiful like you and Jeffrey but then also I forgot the name but the the old Leslie Ugger housekeeper lady Leslie Ugum is a boss listen I mean I'm deadpool alone I'm like the fact that she pulls American fiction of Deadpool she's fucking yeah she's a mac and yeah um I got to share a green room

with her and get all those stories these people are walking around yeah She was such genius inside of it. It's such the blueprints, so our lives into the future. And she's one of them. So Leslie Adams is excellent. And you're right. That was the housekeeper. Remember the housekeeper?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking the housekeeper and the security guard. But you know what is trying to give truth to the lie? That black people don't have generational stories. That we only exist inside of the generation we're in. And we're not having this back and forth. forth communication, wisdom, and also building and architecture in our lives. And it's so normal in that movie. Yeah, I really, I literally got like emotional watching you and Jeffrey because it's just something that we just don't see. That seeing you in that role and seeing you get a chance

to show love in that way, like you, like seeing you as the actors that we know play that role was so important and kind of, I think I'm not the only person that got emotional over seeing you just in that role. No, people have said that. I get to meet cute. I get to meet like Tomlin. Brian, I drop my tomatoes and did we talk over wine. I mean, imagine that.

And you're not jumping each other bones. I got lotion afterwards. After we do our little do, it's a seduction. And you think high enough of yourself to be like, I don't have to be there here. No, go. You confused. Don't bring that chaos. Don't disturb my peace.

She's not pining for him. She just let go of a relationship, and I'm sure it was difficult for her. So what she took to regain that kind of stability, she wasn't willing to give it up for his drama. And that's the self-empowerment. And it was lovely. It wasn't mean or angry.

It was just sort of like, you got to go. Erica, please tell me what it's like going back and forth and playing this game with Jeffrey Wright. Like, what is it like in a scene? I'm like, what? He's just, he's it. He's it. And then talk about Sterling. Okay. Well, Jeffrey is a nerd, too. He only watches documentaries. He doesn't watch TV. But he knows all the references. So he would get along with all of you guys. We got to be from D.C. Yeah, it's long overdue. You know those D.C. Lideskin brothers.

Me too. They were free of them. There you go. But he from southeast, though. He went to Anacostia High School. Okay. So you know who you are. He loves his mother and he. He loves his mother. loves his auntie who raised him. He's a great lover of women, black women. And he understands. So he's not intimidated by me. He doesn't think that I'm a threat. And in fact, you could feel the-

Yeah. Well, he feels like he's taking care of business. This is a man that's respected on set and he understands what he's there to do. But here's what he's not there to do. He's not there not to make mistakes. So he's trying things in experimenting. He's frustrated, but you can see he wants

a certain result and he's going for it. So I like somebody who was, expectation is high, but he's like, that's your expectation. I came on here to be an actor and make my mistakes like everybody else and put it together. And it reminds you that you have to give yourself grace. Everybody can expect you to be perfect, but that's not what you're here for.

and that's who Jeffrey is and once he gets permission to do those things he gives everyone else permission and then the set runs when you are paired with an acting partner that you know that your your characters sort of connected to are there conversations beforehand

of what the chemistry is going to be because I've heard and I'm asking this as a new director and as a director that hasn't done scripted yet I've heard, I've talked to a lot of directors and they've told me ideal stories of like these actors and the ones who gravitates towards. I've heard nightmare stories of established actors who, you know, this actor will only give you two takes. And if you don't got it, tough titties, that's your fault. I don't give a fuck next scene, that sort of thing.

Is it a speed dating process? Like how long? Because the thing is, is that one with Jeffrey, but also your relationship with, what's his name? Sterling? No, no, no. I'm going back to Bobby, to Wu-Tang. Oh, Rizza. Yeah, who's playing him?

Ashden Sanders. Ashden Sanders is playing. On invasion, too. Oh, man, okay. I'm wondering how long is the speed, quote, air quote, speed day process. between you and the actor to know, like, to at least get to know each other? Or is this just like cold, like you automatically know what to do? So I want to first say something about the bad behavior that they might be speaking to.

I have not experienced that. And I've been in showbiz 40 years. So I've been a little bit, I don't know, I give a little side eye to the stories because I think that people attract certain things because they, they put either, oh, that person must be in that role, knowing that the person is problematic, instead of giving somebody who can do the role just as well and not give those type of problems. And so everybody has a reputation. No one is operating in a vacuum.

So if they're experiencing that, I think it's hard for you not to know where an actor lands. And you have to consider, do you really want that? because that can ruin you. A bad attitude can ruin everything. The crew, everything. So I haven't, but I haven't experienced that. Okay. I've experienced some issue with younger actors

because they haven't been properly trained. And I'm not talking about on stage because I only did a very small amount of training. I mean, no one tells them the truth and they get away with bad behavior and there's no consequences. If somebody did that on my set, I would replace them almost immediately.

Yeah, so when you check after check a young actor, What do you say? Like how do you check them? You take them aside. You don't embarrass them. You ask them if there's something wrong because sometimes they can come to set and there's something wrong. And you ask them if they need help. You have identify somebody they can talk to. It could be another actor who's willing to mentor them and they can be open, honest with and vulnerable. It could be a psychiatrist. They could just be scared and not know how. to say it. They may need help with lines and they're freaking out. Get them a dialogue coach. Get them the help they need. They'll calm down. They also need sleep. And some people are not giving these people sleep.

No, she's right. Wait a minute. Working these kids. Working these kids. They know what's true. They're more soft than not. We work. That is actual and factual. Thank you. Yes. But I'm saying that all those things are playing in part. So that's what I would say. I first maybe see that. And then I might have a conversation outside with their manager or agent and not to scare them. But they need warning.

And they need to know that you're on their side. If it continues, then you need to start looking into it right away and reshift your schedule to shoot things they're not in. Did you have any like any OGs who was, who did that for you? Like who gave you that game when you were coming up? I came into the set, Christine. I'm a preacher's daughter.

I know how to act. And I'm from girls high. I'm studied. I know and I'm learned. And if I was scared, I may not have known who to talk to. That's true. I think I experienced a lot of trauma because I couldn't really tell what I was feeling. But that came later on in life.

But I didn't have problems showing up, knowing my lines, being prepared. We did 26 show a year. Now people do 10 and they freak out. I'm learning a play. a week. No, I ain't got no problem. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to

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It's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place they come look for up-and-coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would

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And I'm realizing it right the fuck now. Oh, yeah. She sends you on on average. Oh, damn. Yeah, you are. You too. I love that voice. She pulled me to a side.

She pulled me to the side. Hey, are you a little nervous right now? And I was like, and just hit me. I got the quasi-defense. No, no, no, I'm cool. I'm all right. I'm good. No, no, listen.

You're good. Just breathe. And say it a little bit slower. And she like, now, dude. it. And I was like, and I just realized, oh shit. I was fucking up. I was that. I didn't realize it. No, you said that. But, but Amir, she did that with respect. What she was trying to do was give you permission. If you said to her, yeah, I'm a little nervous. Then it goes away. You know

how if you say something, you can lean into it because everyone's nervous. But the thing was that in my mind, like when you said that, then I'm like, okay, you're an. experienced actress you could tell what a newbie doesn't know any better or they might be doing something wrong or da-da-da-da-da and I'm now realizing that maybe the first three takes that I did because you know they do shit over there like nine times in a row so now I'm realizing my first four takes were like he's not getting it and they kind of have this magic circle thing you know when people are together and they just look at each other and you know you're being talked about but no one's saying it like I felt like oh maybe there's something on my team

Damn, how many lines you have, Amir? Was it like a lot? It was rather significant. Nice. And so she was the designated. She's the leader of the group chat. Damn. But who better to do it than an elder sister who was like, I got you, baby.

Who was in the mighty queen? You know what I'm saying? Yes, but I'm thinking that a lot of them, I don't know if you did a readthrough and all that. But some of these things helped. I came in cold. Yeah, and that's the issue. You're fitting into their world and you're, trying to take it all in all at once,

and you're also trying to do all this other stuff. By the way, any guest featured performer has that extra burden. So I think that she was just giving you permission, but she wasn't done to sonning you. She was just sort of like a big sister going. Yeah. Oh, no, no, I didn't mean, let me make it clear.

Yes, she wasn't sending me disrespect-ly at all. Yeah, but I think maybe because I only enter situations that I know like the back of my hand. Like if it were music or that sort of things, like, I'm not saying you can't tell me nothing, but, you know, this is definitely an area that is not my expertise. In your world, you're keen. It's hard to come in spaces. Right.

And you direct and you do all these things. And then you're put in a position where suddenly it's like, okay, wait a minute. I'm not on, you know, what, again, you're an artist. So she approached you as one. And that's respectful. And she, and it wasn't a matter of whether you could do it. It was a matter of sort of saying,

Reed, you know who told me that? Cessley Tyson. She'd say her could breathe. When these sisters tell you, it sounds ridiculous. Like I am breathing, bitch. But, you know, but she,

they're trying to remind you to be in your body. Right. Also, to give you permission that you ain't got to be perfect. And she, I've been told that by whoopee. I've been doing it. And these people are, I'm there for those Wooten. kids. They come up and say, you're tired. You're not getting your sleep. Okay. So let's get you some water.

You know what I mean? Stand up. Stand up. Shake your body. Let's go outside and get some sun. And I remind them that they're human. They're not a freaking robot, but they're talented. And that's why they're there. And they need to not think about the talent. Just think about being present. And it's all right to have that. Those young men are amazing. But I do want to say something to what you said. You asked about, you know, how do you... How do you talk to your scene partner?

You don't usually. When I say you don't usually, unless you need to, I'm at a point where, for the most part, if somebody's talked to me, they'll pick your side. So, Erica, I'm not sure about this thing. I don't know where it's headed, but I think this and that, what do you think? And I said, I don't know. I don't know, Jeffrey, but I'll follow your lead.

He goes, okay, we'll work it out. And then it's just one of those things where, in a way, he's just confessing that maybe hasn't settled on how the scene goes. And I know to be ready for changes. And he's just putting me on blast, but also not on blast. He's giving me a heads up, but he's also telling me. support me look out for me and i'm glad when somebody says that because i've said that by the way when i was on queen sugar i had medication because i have colitis and sometimes it's a steroid it can make you feel like really like if you get emotional everything feels heightened like you can

faint and so i told omar who plays ohmar dorsi yeah i'm hollywood i said omar i've got to do this emotional scene and if I get overwhelmed and faint because I said you got to tell them I'm all right but you know what happened he says I got you girl I got you and once I did that I actually calm down and I was able to do the scene because I wasn't worried about feigning that's what it is the director kept sometime give you that kind of confidence because that's the person you want to impress and you sometimes don't want to be too friendly with the performance but you do have to make a connection with him that they're not there to hit a line, a bar,

a this and that, and that you enjoy their mistakes on it. That was fun. Give them encouragement, and don't give them encouragement just because they hit it and cried to say thank you. Each time say thank you for whatever they give you. It's no different thank you for the crying

than if they don't do it. and then they say okay they're not making a big deal out of it I can be whatever and still get approval the actors will do anything for you because they know they can't fail I want to ask about the Wutang show which I love how did you get that role and did you actually meet Riz's mom before you uh no she's passed away oh man I didn't know that so long story short I love the Wutang

But at the time, I didn't think it was a role for me. I didn't know if I wanted to be a mother of all these big ass kids. Well, you look like you could be their sister on the cameras. I mean, yeah, yeah, it's like real. But I didn't know. So I didn't really step up for the audition because there was an audition. And they said, Erica, they keep coming back to you, would you? And I said, all right.

So I did. And they said, well, Rizzo wants to meet you. And I said, oh, I don't know if I wanted to go any further. And I don't want to lead anybody on. But I decided, you know what, Erica? Go on. Do what's in front of you. So I met him.

And Riz is very, you know, charismatic and lovely and respectful. And I did my thing. And he said, after I got the part and I accepted it because I did get it. He said, you know, there's only four represented in the show, but I got 11 brothers and sisters, including me. And they all had to say you were okay to play our mother. Wow. Wait, what?

What an honor. Because the whole real Wu-Tang plan. The Diggs family was the stable. Erica can play Linda Diggs. So then I learned about their mother. And then their mother had experienced abuse. And it's one of the reason why they think she died. She was married twice.

And unfortunately, she experienced domestic. abuse, which is portrayed in there. So I knew that it was something very special that Rizzo wanted me to project. So I said to her, and I'm not very religious, but I'm spiritual, I said, Ms. Linda, your children want to see you. You show me the way. And then I didn't do anything because I knew they'd already seen what they wanted. And I just needed to not perform. I need to just get out of the way and let her be there. And to me, she's a ghost in that series. Rizzo wanted to see his mother, so he wrote her in.

I didn't, I could feel the need. Yeah. Wow. Were you a Wutang fan prior to the show? Did you listen to Houtain? I'm a Wootenang fan, not as much as everybody that knows their music as much, but I'm a Wu-Tang fan because I really love how intellectual they are. I love Method Man.

And I like men who are working it out and they're individualists again. They're individualists. And then they decide to come together to make a supergroup. And then their brand becomes bigger than them all. I'm sorry. I love that kind of story. Did you see? And I'm curious because there's a lot of great actors, great young actors in that cast.

Do you see a couple of them as like leading in the future? Like the next, like not the next because they're doing their thing. But Julian Elijah Martinez. Who plays? He played my son. He played the elder. Yeah, he played Divine. He's on the long order sometimes.

He's divine. He killed it. He looked like Divine for real. He does. He does look like Divine. Yeah, he body this. Yeah. And Sadiq Saunders there.

Of course, Ashton Sanders. There you've got Marcus Callender. They're genius performers. And Elijah is on fire. There is not enough film or television to absorb this talent. And my goal is to find ways so they can

show the world what they can do. We've got more talent than we've got content for them to be in. So yeah, look out. All of them are wonderful. I love them all. I have one last question. Eric, I need the face routine. I need, what's

your face routine? What's your skin? The skin is like you're a bitonic. Juice and berries. No, thank you for that. I had a huge breakout because I came here and started eating stuff I didn't know. But you know what I think? I really appreciate that.

If you saw me in person, you see the lines. No, no, no, that's not sure. I just saw you a couple of weeks ago. Don't tell tales. Don't tell tales. Well, you know what? Black does crack. But I think if you keep yourself smiling and laughing about things, I think people see the

brightness in my face really and the openness. And I like to believe that I can still be. young and enthusiastic and not jaded and not tired. I'm enthusiastic after 40 years to be here, and I know what it feels like to be tired. But Harriet wasn't tired until she was tired. So I'm all right. Damn, you're on my Harriet standards.

Shit. That's what I'm saying. That's in your DNA. I'm good. By the way, I don't believe in all this hustle. I get your sleep, get your rest. It's important. Listen.

Read and go outside and let the sun hit you. And listen to the reads, take off all the things and just the ambient noise get to you. I don't think I've read an episode where I don't want to say goodbye to the person. No, once again, thank you so much for coming on our show. And this is definitely, you know, it's a dream for us. We talked about this for a long time of having you. And shout out your organization, please, because when you say you're trying to uplift these people and these creatives, you're doing it in real time. Thank you.

Please. Colorful media. We call ourselves the hometown of film television and tech. You're trying to change the face of media and rebrand blackness. We produced John Lewis Good Trouble. I co-directed the reparations documentary, The Big Payback. We're doing a Diane Carroll documentary. You're also doing collaborations, partnerships, and the scripted space as well.

So remember us, Amir. And for everyone there, we appreciate your support because we don't have a deal. Just work really hard. And we got the DuPont Columbia Award for something we did called Finding Tamika, which was the top true crime audio series that I created a road. And I really am very proud of that because we were talking about missing white women syndrome. And to do what we used as black girls' light to show Kamika. She was used as the discussion around it.

And we made a neo-noir-noy ghost story. and we thought it was lovely, and their family was lovely to let us do it. But Amir, I want to say something to you. Yes. You are not only a goat, you're a person who is in power to empower. Thank you. I'm very gratified that you're from Philly. I see all the stuff that you do.

And I say stuff you do, the amazing things that you accomplish. But I also love that you have. have the curiosity, intellectual, and the deep dives that most people don't allow themselves to have. And so you're very generous with your mind and your brilliance. And I appreciate that, brother, because all the people all those people would recognize that you're their son.

So thank you all for creating this for us to have these long conversations. Because I think we're also archiving history. 100%. Yeah. You made it. Thank you.

Thank you for making the history. Thank you for, yeah. Thank you for doing your shit. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate you. And that is probably the greatest ending of Questlove

Supreme ever. You can just get that plate of Patty's. Okay, yes. To let the world know, Patty invited me and the guy who sang about her pies and talked about

a bean. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, got it with viral. Right. She invited both of us to her house for Thanksgiving, and I ate my ass off. It was awesome. Oh, this happened.

This happened in 24, 10 years ago. Oh, okay, got you. Yes, after a lot of begging. Erica wants to be invited. I will get invited. You watched 80th birthday. I'm saying we just make it a family of video. Thank you, dollface.

I appreciate you. Bye, Fanta. Bye, love. Thank you. Thank you. Bye job. See all the next go around, y'all. Peace.

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A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes,

follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific corner They take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends.

Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest, the director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players

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