The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: Hannibal Buress Part 1
Episode Date: November 1, 2023Hannibal Buress and Questlove Supreme get together in Hollywood for a two-part episode that's honest, hilarious, and historic. In Part 1, Hannibal recalls his early days of comedy, his passion for rap...ping, and his formative years in Chicago.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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You're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore.
It's okay to quit.
If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.
It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat.
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Right, it wouldn't be that.
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Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio.
Yeah.
We're writing our roll call.
Oh, man, I think at one point in 2020, I just went through a bunch of episodes and only
listen to Road Calls.
Let's see how he did.
Okay, let me see.
They're good.
Bring everybody together at the beginning.
Not yet.
Not yet yet.
Not yet yet yet.
Okay, now yet.
Supremar, sub, sub, sub, supremer roll call, supremo.
Quest love Supreme.
Yeah.
With a nice Keannie.
Yeah.
And Fama beans?
Rolla!
My name is Fonte.
Yeah.
And I'm feeling free.
Yeah.
Rapp for 14 minutes.
Yeah.
Kept about three.
Oh, ah.
Supremma.
Subrima, Supriamma.
Subrima Roe.
My name is Sugar, yeah, and on we go.
I'm from New York, where they film the Cosmic Show.
Rolla, Supreme Court.
So I'm a paid bill, yeah, and I think it's clear.
Yeah.
I'm a ditch this life for a rap career.
Roll car, Supremea, Supreme a Role.
Fly ya, yeah.
That's Hannibal Burris.
Yeah.
Right in front of him?
Yeah.
Got me Storres.
Roll car.
You got me nervous.
My name is Hannibal.
Yeah.
Don't call me Lector.
Yeah.
When I make music, yeah.
You call me Escher.
No car.
Supremia.
Subrima.
Supriva Ro.
Oh my God.
Yo.
That's the first.
Already out of the gate.
That's the first.
Between Q-tips, adloves.
Yes.
Charlie Wilson, this might have.
Top five.
Nah,
nah,
straight on it.
You just happen
to be in his pocket.
You don't travel with her,
Monica?
Thank you.
Shit,
this is another episode.
What the fuck just happened?
Yeah,
right.
It was another episode
of Quest Love Supreme.
Team Supreme,
hello.
We are in Los Angeles.
Woo.
Having,
that's not,
when I say Los Angeles,
oh,
woohoo.
Yeah.
No,
that's the end of living single.
Oh.
Oh, are you talking about the production.
You are such a deep dive.
Anyway.
Like, he's talking about after the dun, dun, da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then the production.
Come up.
Yes.
Anyway, I will implement sound effects, claps or whatever.
Anyway, Supremeers, how's life going out here?
Good, man.
We've been trying to make this one happen for a long time.
Oh, yeah.
We've been trying to put this one over.
It's been a minute.
Wait a minute.
Yes.
This is his first episode.
In my mind, Hannibal was like a repeat.
Have we had them on the books before?
Yeah, well, yeah.
I just never wanted to do the Zoom one.
And yes, and then we were supposed to do like Roots Pygmic and stuff.
But this is, it happens when it's supposed to be.
Nice, okay.
That's what's up.
Well, you know, it's kind of weird because I really, unlike our other guests,
I truly, truly, truly, truly know our guest today, of course.
I guess I first met you walking in the hallways of 30, right?
Yeah.
And I believe I saw your first ever.
late night stand-up.
You're talking about the...
When I did Fowler?
Yes.
I had done a couple before then, but that was one of the most impactful ones,
because it led to me getting Saturday Night Live from there.
Yeah, I was going to say that was, you know,
I know many of stars born moments when it comes to the music acts on the show
that were like, you know, Arna Grande's first time or whatever,
like people that are going to be, like, impactful.
But I definitely remember in the comedy world,
if you make Higgins excited, which Higgins runs SNL,
like that's the first time I heard him, like, give feedback on a comedian.
So I was like, oh, wow, that's important.
But, you know, I will say that that's how I first met you.
But, of course, you're listening out there.
You're familiar with our guest, of course, as be it on the Eric Andre's show or in Broad City
or any of the Spider-Man franchise movies.
Tag.
Yes, tag.
That's my tag.
I love, it is unhealthy the amount of times I've committed to watching tag.
If it's on, you watch it.
Yeah, that's, for some reason, I want to ask you about that because my fear is running,
especially where I'm there.
I want to know what the audition was like.
But not to mention, you know, of all the pivots that we talk about on the show, he's had the most interesting pivot as an
emce, Lord knows, I did not see that coming in the beginning.
At first, I thought you were trying to troll us, but then I realized, like, you are dead
serious about this new craft of emceeing, which I wasn't familiar with before, and we're
going to get into that.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Hannibal Burris to Questleps together.
Finally.
Thank you, man.
Thank you, man.
Rapping, rap, rap, rapping, because I'm rapping.
I love it.
Man, excited to be here with y'all, man.
Yeah, I was about to say, this is a new...
glowing Hannibal that I see.
And I want to figure out the secrets.
Like, I guess I want to start even before your life.
I want to know what did you do in the pandemic that made you almost this new
enlightened Hannibal 2.0?
It was just, I think it was what I wasn't able to do.
Okay.
Because stuff being shut down.
So stand up was shut down outside of the terrible drive-in tour that I did.
And so acting was weird during the time.
When projects did start up, you had to get COVID tested multiple times.
Oh, yeah, we're about to film, but you're staying in this hotel and all of this.
And so I decided, do I want to do that to go not be myself?
Do I?
And so a lot of time, the answer was no.
But the studio process and that energy, you can still get that no matter what was going on.
So I just kind of enjoyed recording a lot
and had a lot of fun just being in the studio.
Like he would be like three in the morning.
Hey man, I did this.
Check this out.
Yeah.
But that's what I want to know.
Like, were you, was I late to the train?
Like, were people aware of this other talent of yours
or was it just like something in the pandemic
where you're just like, all right, I rhymed a little bit,
but let me really.
Yeah, it was just where I was able to do it.
and focus on it and having a lot of fun.
And then also just send it to people
because people were bored and available.
So I remember when I did,
and when I recorded the first version of Kept About 3,
it was really 14 minutes long.
And I was so hyped about a couple moments of it,
and I sent it to so many people,
which I wouldn't do now.
I wouldn't send it rough like that.
But at the moment, I was just really, really proud of it.
It was the end of the world.
And we were in the space to receive those things.
And so I had been dabbling.
I started out.
Actually, I did music before I ever did any stand-up comedy.
I recorded some songs with my homie Dave.
Video Dave?
No, my homie Dave that I grew up on my block in Chicago.
We recorded some songs probably in 2001 or so.
I started comedy in 2002, and then I was always adjacent to music.
I even battle-wrapped in college just to get stage time because battle-wrap is about
getting reaction from the crowd and everything.
And yeah, it was doing, you know, hosting hip hop events
and, you know, a lot of my early stuff references,
references music.
So I was always around it, but just, you know,
started doing stand-up, less friction in stand-up at that
because you just show up and do stand-up too.
You know what I mean?
You ain't got to go to the studio and all this.
You go to open mic, you sign up.
Boom, you're doing stand-up.
What's more challenging for you?
Stand-up is more challenging.
Yeah, stand-up is a little more challenging,
but easier to execute because you just show.
So, yeah, stand-up as a performance is more challenging.
And then creative music is really fun
because you don't have to do it in front of the crowd there.
You can kind of create to your taste and tweak
and make it in this bubble.
But then performance stand-up is tougher.
performing music with the band I really enjoy because you can kind of take breaks and be a fan of music while you perform in music.
So you know what I mean?
You let the solo go off and you can just kind of vibe.
And it be sometimes when I'm up there with the band and I'm like, you hear something like, damn, what?
What?
That's who rock it with me right now?
Right.
What did you just do?
Like, whoa.
And so those moments is really cool because you don't have to be on.
every single second and just, you know, figuring it out, man,
and figuring out just getting the show better.
I think you can make jumps in the music performance.
As far as making your show better,
you can make big jumps in a short amount of time.
I feel like as a comedian, you can make jump,
but they take a while.
But as far as music, you can kind of, you can do your show
and then you go watch a few folks
that's really doing that shit.
You're like, okay, we need to rehearse more.
We need to get our visuals right.
We need to bring our own sound guy.
We need to bring our own monitor guy.
We need to get the visuals on point.
We need to all wear the same shit.
We need to do to da-da.
I need to work with a movement coach.
I need the motherfugging running.
Well, shit, you're more advanced than me because I'll be honest with you.
After enrolling in Camp Cool J for seven weeks, I've realized that we have yet to
even scratch the surface of what our potential is.
Because L.L. is just such a forceful being on stage.
It was almost like the equivalent of someone waking us up for McCorma,
where I realized, like, I've never like, you know, you see rock drummers doing like
smells like Teen Spirit, like that sort of thing.
Like, I've never done that in my fit.
Like, I craft roots music, so I could just chill, eat a peanut butter sandwich,
sandwich, you know, my phone and all that.
And suddenly, like, I became like, this drummer.
And I didn't realize, like, how much...
He's he's hell of present.
He attacks the stage.
And it's weird, like, you know, maybe the first week and a half, like, we got jokes
and that stuff.
But then it becomes, like, osmoses where suddenly, like, what we were once mocking now we're doing.
And so, yeah, I mean, the fact that you have the wherewithal, because for me, it was just, like,
getting through a show without getting booed was my goal.
which is why like every root show that like we've never end I don't have an ending for any root song whatsoever like literally I attach songs in just because I never wanted to end the song whew and hear like
everybody just yeah right you know so I mean the the fact that you at least are watching the playback or not watching the playback like looking at the highlight reel to see how it can prove like that's how the grid
Prince recorded every show,
and then we'll make the Revolution sit in his room,
watch the show that night,
like that three-hour show they just did.
And be like, all right, see, here,
you almost fell off stage.
That's 50 bucks, and, you know.
So I think that's awesome.
And you just started combining the two, right?
Because you weren't always doing them together.
Yeah, I just started.
I'm a subscriber on your page.
I thought you're asking us.
Yeah, last year, I was in my stubborn music mode
where I was, I'm only doing music.
And I'm only doing, people were coming to me
with comedy gigs, I'm like, pass.
Can I rap?
You know, I had to fund.
Yeah, now it's just like, okay, I got to be more practical about this.
And, you know, I can't just quit like that.
And it's been fun to just really give that full show like that
where I'm doing the comedy set and then doing the music after.
How do you sort of present that two promoters that want Hannibal to come to this particular venue?
Right.
And then you're like, ah, ah, ah.
Yeah, I think it's just if I'm doing, I'm giving them what they know.
That's the thing is that they, Hannibal sales tickets and I'm also doing this.
So it's not people still getting the hour, 15, hour 30 of stand up.
And then I'm doing our music afterwards.
So it's a full, it's a full show.
It's the first time where I'm after I'm really just really tired.
Like, man, I really did it.
Before doing standup, I wouldn't be.
Maybe if you did two or three, I would be like, oh, man.
But now I really feel spent after the show.
So it's been, it's been dope, man.
It's not a lot of people.
I was trying to think outside of you, in my lifetime, I'm like, you, Jamie Fox.
I remember when Jamie Fox did a whole tour like this.
Edward Reagan Murphy, the last, oh, one of his last.
Because I don't know if you guys remember, there was, when that, what's up with you album,
The Motown record, Loves All Right.
Right.
He did some spot dates, like, at stadiums,
like his very last run of doing, like, stand-up comedy.
But, yeah, he would open his own shows and, like, Larry Graham.
And that's get serious?
Yeah.
Like, even to this day, like, I've gotten calls to, like, you know, come drum on this thing.
Like, he'll employ the best musicians to come.
I mean, he did that song with Snoop Lyons.
That was all right, then that was all right.
That was all right.
That was really kind of suspicingly.
Right.
Suspisingly.
Suspisingly.
Yes.
No, it goes right there in the bloticious.
I'm not saying.
But, yeah, like Eddie would do a half hour with Larry Graham as his band leader, and then he would do some stand-up.
Gambino, his 2011 tour, the I Am Donald, he opened with stand-up and then.
and did music.
Believe it or not,
like,
I'm actually glad you're doing this
because the thing was,
when Dante...
Yassin.
Thank you.
I was about to say, yeah,
but...
I didn't even know you was wrong for a minute.
It was like a Y word,
like, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Yosef.
When Yassine first came on the scene,
As Most Deaf,
that was the first time
that I saw an MC
really have communication skills
to that of,
of a stand-up comedian.
Like, he was literally, like, working this crowd.
I mean, he was doing crowd work.
And, like, to watch him in, from 96 to about 98 was, like, just a thing to behold.
And then he kind of morphed and sort of lost the, you know, and I don't know that's the thing that rappers go through was, like, I got to lose this happy, go lucky perception of me.
And then I got to be serious.
Oh, serious.
And then I'm angry, then I'm hardcore,
and then I don't change my name, whatever.
So, I mean, it happens.
But even with Tariq, like, Tariq got really made a mark
at Performing Arts for his ability to play the dozens and freestyle.
So, you know, as long as there's somebody's shoes to talk about
or a hole in their, you know, jeans or whatever,
that enabled me to be cool because I was this guy.
Yeah.
While he was just freestyle and talk about people.
like, you know, so I think that actually those two things go hand in hand with each other.
A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying.
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The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects.
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What's up, everyone?
I'm Ego Vodom.
My next guest, you know from Stepbrothers Anchorman,
Saturday Night Live,
and the Big Money Players Network.
It's Will Ferrell.
My dad gave me the best advice ever.
I went and had lunch with them one day
and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to
really give this a shot. I don't know what that means,
but I just know the groundlings, I'm working
my way up through and I know it's a place that come
look for up and coming talent.
He said, if it was based solely on talent,
I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet.
Yeah.
He goes, but there's so much luck involved.
And he's like, just give it a shot.
He goes, but if you ever reach a point
where you're banging your head against the wall
and it doesn't feel fun anymore,
it's okay to quit.
If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.
It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat.
Just hang in there.
Yeah.
It would not be.
Right.
It wouldn't be that.
There's a lot of luck.
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The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring, incontinent.
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I doctored the test once.
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Two more men who'd been through the same thing.
Greg, a lesbian, Michael Marantini.
My mind was blown.
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Are you from Chicago?
Yeah.
Okay, can you explain something to me?
Why is Chicago the epicenter of American comedy?
For such a place that is also perceived as one of the most dangerous cities in America.
Which I don't even know if that's true or not either.
segregated as fuck.
Why is Chicago?
It's, I don't know, man.
The city itself is the organization of the,
city of Chicago.
In my experience, it's just a
petty place that's always
taken from you, so
it gives you an edge earlier.
Taking from you in what way?
How's it?
It's just, you know, through ticketing,
through all these different
taxes, and
I'm still scarred because
they took my car because I had parking
tickets, and then they booted it, and then they just
took it, and then it was just, and then
I still owed the parking tickets, but they had sold
the car, but it's just the car.
So they sold the car?
They disappeared my car, man.
And so...
Wow.
And you still had to pay it.
And I still had to pay it to get my license.
So it's just, you know, that is every...
There's a lot of aspects of the...
That might be every city.
That's crazy.
Is that every city?
It might be.
I think so it happened to me.
I don't know.
Oh, we're...
Are you?
Yeah, if you just, like, build up a lot of tickets, you know.
Yeah, but I feel like you just going...
How you go...
It's the logic on it.
It's like, you know, I use that to go get the money.
money. Right, right, right. So now you're making it real tough for everybody. Now I got to have a
hope. Now I got to go, I got to get SNL four years later just to fix all this.
All right. Damn. First of all, where did you grow up in Chicago?
The west side of Chicago, North Austin. Finally, not the south side. There's a lot of south side.
Yeah. Okay, so I feel like Chicagoans, some of these Chicago luminaires have been on the show,
might be slightly exactly.
I'm not looking at you, Sally Richardson.
I definitely believe you from the south side of Chicago.
You showed me that shit.
You cleared that up.
However, similar to Detroit.
Like, sometimes, you know, every Detroit
claims the east side.
And then a friend of mine is like,
everyone's going to claim the east side
because that's where, like, the realness is from.
But no one wants to admit that they're from the west side of the,
you know, where Barry Gordy lives, like that nice part of Detroit.
Is Chicago, like, is the South Side supposedly, like, across the tracks where you're not supposed to go?
Or?
South Side is a big place.
So there's hood neighborhoods on the South Side.
And then there's also Bronsville and High Park, which is where Obama's house is.
That's kind of the Harlem of Chicago.
where, you know, you got nice houses and stuff.
So the south side is just, is,
it's pretty much a city in itself with other areas.
And you got white neighborhoods on the south side.
You got Latino neighborhoods.
You got, you know.
So it has, yeah, it's some tough spots on the south side.
And there's some nice ones too.
But they kind of bought, you know,
and that can change in two blocks.
You're like, whoa, it's nice over here.
Whoa, okay, I'm not safe.
In the beginning, like, I, well, you know,
Big George, right?
George.
On the record?
George's music.
George's music.
George's music. Right.
George Daniels.
George Daniels.
Okay, we say, big George.
George Daniels.
Like, when, in the beginning, when you would have to, like, do in-store appearances
and whatnot, and he would take us around to these various record spots, like, literally,
he'll be like, oh, yeah, there's Oprah's Condos over there, and then literally will be, like,
Cabrini Green, like, in mere seconds.
Yeah.
The projects and the condominiums are, were in proximity, 3.96.
Yeah, Cabrina Green was really close to downtown in a few minutes.
Okay.
Super close, yeah.
So, like, what is the west side like for you?
My area on the west side is my North Avenue and Austin.
So it borders Oak Park, which is a suburb, but it's a suburb that's,
there's suburbs, there's outer suburbs
where you got to get on the highway
and drive 20, 30 minutes,
and then there's suburbs where it's like,
this side of the street is Chicago,
this side of the street is Oak Park.
So my area had Chicago influence,
but it also had part suburban feel
because it was adjacent to that.
So that's where I was at.
So North Avenue and Austin.
Y'all were like middle class family.
Yeah, but it still had
it still had bullshit going on occasionally.
But it wasn't like you didn't feel
like unsafe all the time.
It's just like,
watch yourself.
What did your folks do?
What did your people do?
My dad worked at the railroad,
at Union Pacific Railroad,
and then my mom worked at mental hospital for a while
and then worked at my old school,
St. Paul Lutheran School, as a teacher's assistant.
Oh, God.
So you had to go to school while your mom was there?
She worked there after I left, actually,
after I left that school.
Because that's too much pressure.
Yeah, I would have been.
It would have been not.
Way too much pressure.
During that time period,
like, were you,
Chicago has so many luminaries from like past, present and future.
Like, were you in proximity of anyone that was Chicago-based?
And just socially.
Socially?
Hey, in my high school, there's common or, you know.
In my high school?
No.
Well, fifth or sixth grade, we played against, we played basketball against this kid.
It was a kid of Mari Sawyer that ended up going to DePaul, and he cooked us, man.
He cooked the hell out of us, man.
You know, because the 56th grade basketball,
there's no scouting report.
You just find out on the court.
In real time.
There's no like, yeah, we got to watch it.
We just get out there and he's like, what was that?
And he starts cheering for his side.
What was that?
And it was a play.
Right.
It was a play where the ball was going out of bounds off of him.
He saved the ball.
jumped midair, threw it off of me, out of bounds.
But that was not a fifth and sixth grade play.
You were just confused.
I remember, like, ref, give him a tech right now.
Get him out of here.
He's a grown man, let us kids enjoy ourselves.
Get him up out of here.
A grown man.
Dominican birth certificate.
So that was an early encounter with greatness.
In 56th of sixth grade,
well, he's seeing somebody really different from us.
So in general, did you,
What were your aspirations as a kid?
Like, it's hard to figure out where comedy enters someone's life
if you had another talent or if you had another dream for being an electrician or, you know.
I didn't have any specific goals, man.
I was a smart kid, you know, tested well.
And so I think even going into college, I played, you know, I played football in high school.
I was okay.
I was on a debate team.
I enjoyed that.
Are you the only child or you had siblings?
Not the only child, but I'm the youngest with a decent gap.
So maybe I think, yeah, next sibling is 10 years older, I think.
Is anyone saying the temptations right now?
No, no.
Just what the Rolls the old is though?
Yeah, I was just thinking you were spoiled.
Okay.
So you're the baby and your siblings are decades older than you?
A decade, yeah.
So it's kind of like you were the only kid.
Yeah.
And I mean, I guess my sister kind of took on more.
of a motherly role
before she went to college and everything.
Like, Sally.
Like Don.
Anyway.
P-T-S-D.
Exactly.
I love you doing.
Getting a time machine.
Yeah.
But going to college, I think I just went
just because that was what you was supposed to do.
It wasn't with a real vision.
It was just kind of, you're supposed to go to college.
Where did you go again?
Southern Illinois University.
Okay.
Major?
My age changed.
My first major was business, and then I failed finite math twice, and I said, I guess business
not for me.
At least their idea of business ain't for me.
Can I change the education for a little bit?
Actually, time out.
I know many a business major, but literally doesn't know what that entails in college.
So what classes are they?
I didn't make it until where you took the actual classes.
I was still in the, you know, in the freshman level.
So they had general ed, the general.
I didn't get into that.
Like biology if you're a doctor.
Yeah, so it wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't there yet.
Because you didn't stay, but for how long?
In college?
Oh, no, I stayed there the amount of time, four years.
But you finished?
Well, I decided I was finished.
You gave them four years of your money?
And then?
Yeah, I mean, you know, state school, so it wasn't super-jew.
You were smart.
Oh, I started out of state school, Amir.
If you go to your state school, that's, for instance, I want.
went to Morgan State for two years.
My tuition was like $1,500 a semester.
I was stupidly transferred to Atlanta.
Really?
Now, oh, $100,000 on $30,000.
Yeah, that's what...
Still?
Oh, yeah.
You're paying off now?
Oh, $155 on $30,000.
Loans.
Oh, wow.
Really?
You didn't get to...
And see how that works, all that money?
And people be like, you got your degree?
Yeah, I did.
Yeah.
I don't know where it is.
Okay.
Yeah.
Where did you graduate?
Like, I'm sorry?
99 is supposed to be 98.
Okay.
Clark Atlanta University.
I'm sorry.
I know you went to college,
but for some reason,
most black people
I know go to college.
Like, they just like,
then I dropped out my junior year or whatever.
I didn't see that.
We're finished.
We're very proud of you.
Don't you,
no one.
No, I finished in 01.
I came in 97.
Damn, two degrees in here?
Yeah.
I mean, three degrees.
Well.
Ours are a given, right?
Yeah.
Wait, Steve, you finish?
That's just what happened.
Wait, everyone in the squad, I'm the only one that's not edgimicated.
Yes, the richest.
Yeah, we didn't have a wreckage deal.
Learn from this, y'all.
Yeah, no.
Damn, not really, I feel horrible.
You aren't doing this.
No, you should be proud.
Like, you know.
Unless you want to put some on, it's 155.
Oh, yeah, you can end up.
55.
Damn.
Shout out to Joe Biden, I'm waiting.
Well, there was a second.
When Swizz went to Harvard, there was a second.
a brief moment where you could take like
a Harvard, yeah,
business thing, but that,
nah, I couldn't do it.
But I want to do it before I'm 70,
so.
I want you to go to Harvard.
Just finish up somewhere else.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, you can,
you can go to the Vry?
You know, I mean, it's a lot of, yeah,
the Phoenix, Nick.
Yeah, there's a lot of.
University of Phoenix, yeah.
Yeah, you jumping way out there.
Yeah, all right, we'll do that.
Take like two weeks.
Hey, gentlemen, pay somebody $500 to film the classes.
you know what?
During the Black album, period,
there was a moment where
I think I had him on the fence
where I was like, yo, you know, it'd be dope
because this is the point where I realized
that Jay had put the Mitchell Ness out of business
when he started like, hey, I'm wearing buttons now.
Yeah, I didn't really realize.
Right, so when we were rehearsing,
this is before that album came out,
before that album came out,
do you know a boy who was like,
Like the...
Big Roob?
Yes.
Thank God you.
I got you.
Because I literally...
And she went to college.
Sorry.
Big?
All right.
You get that one.
No!
Oh, dude!
Rock!
Oh!
Finally, we've been here for two days.
I got my fucking theme song.
The longest one.
Extra echo.
With the dove.
All right.
There's so awesome.
You're just so awesome.
Yeah.
So the whole point was that I was like, whoa,
if you're this powerful
if you're this
because Big Rube actually
hit them up
and said hey
help
like can you let me know
the exact date
this album's coming out
because
I feel like
that's going to be
another 4.6 situation
where you shut
Jay had a history
of shutting businesses down
and they were like
yes the album comes out
and da da da da da
and they just had like
a fire sale
yes they literally had a fire sale
and then of course
the shirt
went down for a spell
and then everyone's buying buttonups.
I was like, wow, if you had the power to do that,
I was like, if you went to college,
everybody would follow suit and go to college.
So I was like...
I thought he was going to get him to teach a class.
He needs to teach a motherfax.
He's how he did these things.
I mean, yeah, but I, you know, I was,
I had hope for us.
So...
A shirt is an easier left.
I'm about saying.
A shirt in college are two different...
Shirt is a...
Boom.
Go to Rosses, 20 bucks.
I got a shirt.
I'm Jay-Z.
Yeah.
You tell me I got to fill out a FAFSA and shit.
It's like, what?
What?
I got to stay in a room with a stranger?
I don't know.
I don't know, hove.
I still got hope, man.
I still got a hoop.
Do you remember your first, like,
the first time you got on stage and did comedy?
Like, what was that first time?
Where was it?
What was it?
It was at SIU and the Student Center.
It's called the Big Muddy Room.
They had open mics.
Did you put that, was that footage of that at the end?
I feel like I saw you put it online or something.
Oh, it was at the beginning of Miami Night.
That's what it was.
I was like, I feel like, so that was the performance?
That wasn't it.
That was something in the first year or so, but that wasn't the first one.
But that was the tape at the first.
That was the same place.
Okay, got you.
That show, it was an open mic.
And I went the month before my home boy, Cheedy was performing at the same open mic,
and I just kind of, I was watching folks.
And it just kind of, it demystified stand up for me
because before that I was seeing everything televised
where people was polished, killing it.
And so then that showed me that,
oh, I could try this and it's low stakes.
If it goes cool, it goes cool.
If it don't, it don't.
And so then I wrote some stuff
and went back to the next month and tried it.
And it went all right, but it was enough to kind of, you know,
to keep me going.
I remember my leg just shaking afterwards.
Like, oh, shit.
Were you generally known as the funny guy
in the crew or were you the class clown or like
were you generally known as funny or were you just observational
humor guy? It depends. Sometimes I'll, you know, in the right
group I would be funny and over the top or
roasting and what but some people if you ask him, I don't know he quite
he seemed, I know I thought he was quiet.
I'm like, because we probably weren't that cool.
But the folks that knew, you know,
thought I was funny and uh, but yeah, after that I caught the
bug and was just really locked in.
Just appreciated that feeling.
And being on campus, too, that was the cool thing about doing it in a college setting
was that there was this bubble on its own.
So, you know, after my first show, it was another show that I did on campus.
Actually, Little Rail was on that show.
And Wildcat, Two-Face and Shady.
It was, you know, they were bringing down comics from Comic View.
and I, Kevin from Triple Team promotions,
let me get a spot, even though I only had,
my only experience was one open mic before that.
And so I did my set,
walked out to actually all I need by Jay-Z,
and it went cool.
And then the next day after that,
because it's a college campus, you run into folks,
like, yeah, you did stand up, oh.
And so it was cool to do it in that setting.
And it also was easy to relate
because you could do, oh, the lunch, the cafeteria food,
campus security, what's so what?
You know, you had all these stuff because you're talking to other 18 to 22-year-olds
that's living in the same place.
So I think it was a benefit to.
Was this the time when you and Open Mike Eagle, because you were his,
weren't you his like RA or something?
He was my R-A.
Oh, he was your R.
He was my R.
He was my R.A.
That sounds about right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, Mike was my R.A.
He actually put me on to, once I, I,
I showed him
I went up to this place
Jukebox comedy club
I drove up there to do a guest spot
and perform
and I had a VHS tape
of my set and I was hyped about it
and then I went up to his room
and showed him the tape like
and that was back
it's VHS so you
it wasn't just you send a link
it's like I did this
let's watch it
let's go to the click together
let's watch the shit I did
you just look
And so he, from there, he sent me some, I think the audio from Dave Chappelle, killing him softly.
Just the audio from it, some headberg stuff, but the killing them softly, that's when I heard, when he did the Dave, I'm going to race him that bit.
I knew it was a bad idea, but I was high.
I tried to tell them it was a bad idea, but all it came out was, shit, sometimes you got a race, nigga.
I don't know.
And that was, I rewind.
I just thought it was the time and the delivery on that was so crazy.
I rewind that so many times.
Okay.
When crafting, well, wait.
When I come back, I want to talk about the crafting of a show.
Yeah.
But we're going to take a break for the, you know, pause for the cost.
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So we're back with our guest, Hannibal Burris.
Yes, I'm being professional.
There's a new thing we're doing.
It's called commercial breaks.
I don't know.
None of us knew.
I overheard a conversation.
We take commercial breaks now.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know.
Well, you know, we got to pay the bill.
So it's best to be, you know, professional.
Yeah.
It only took us six years.
Right.
Right.
Yeah, okay, cool.
So, yeah, when I first got my drum machine,
the first thing I did was, like,
well, when I got an SB-1200,
I would remade the entire low-end theory.
I challenged myself to make at least side one of nation of millions.
Like, you got to practice other people's beats,
and then Dill would do the same.
All those Pete Rock interludes, he would redo them shit.
and then try to figure out how to do it his version.
Right.
So for a comedian, though,
like I know, like, you know, Eddie Murphy would say, like, yeah,
I just take Richard Price record and remix his things
were people that didn't hear it in my school or whatever.
But for you, how does that work?
Like, what are the ingredients that you're taken from?
So you're saying that killed me softly from Chappelle
was a seminal moment for you
where you just studied the,
Just that bit, I like that just as a fan.
As far as creating my stuff, I don't know.
I just watched a lot of folks.
I didn't, early on, a lot of folks, you sort of like Mitch Hebburg.
But Mike played me, Mitch Hebburg based on what I had just played him from that show.
And he put me on to Mitch Hebburg.
So maybe I absorb, I'm sure, you know, just through osmosis, you might sound like folks sometimes.
And you just try to, you know, find your own and be as true to your shit as you can.
But, you know, we...
Well, don't we feel like Hepberg's observational road that has been long vacant and, you know, somebody has to walk their path?
Is that how comedians look at things?
Like, okay, well, this guy's the singing comedian and this guy's the, you know, the family storyteller.
and this person's the, you know,
the street community.
Like, is that,
are they compartmentalized like that?
It wasn't, it wasn't that calculated at that time.
It was just really just trying to get better.
Just try to, you know,
just have your, your seven,
that was not bomb.
Really, that was just the thing.
It was just not just how to do a good set.
So do you remember,
what was the first,
the first joke that you wrote that hit?
The first one that I, that hit,
It was one
I talked about
how people just have
just all these different ways
to call you dark skin.
Like, damn, you black as hell. You're so black
if you lay on
if you stand by the wall, it's a cave.
If you lay on the ground, it's a hole.
You're so black, you purple.
African, like, it was just kind of a run of just all these things.
Why is that everyone's entry in the comedy world?
Because even Chris Rock said
he had a good three minutes about miles davis being black and that's what that's what made edie murphy
invited him to you know beverly old scott like it's almost like that's a entry point yeah it was
just you just you just you know repeating things that people said to you like that you didn't
understand why they said it like blackness is the birthplace of that's america what why am i an
African booty scratcher. Right, man.
I'm just existing.
African booty scratching. What?
I'm 10.
Lame boys in the hood.
So, okay, when you're crafting,
don't speak from your professional mind now, but back then,
when you're crafting, like,
pre-roots, you know, there's a point where you,
your eyes are open, you suddenly realize, like,
Like what a hook is, you know, what makes things work on an audience.
Unfortunately, it took me to the pandemic to really learn how to make a song.
Really?
Yes.
Because.
You didn't finish college.
So what do you expect?
We've had records.
We've gotten lucky.
But I never knew the science of songwriting or what makes a song work.
Like, what makes it affect and what makes it non-effective?
And it wasn't until the pandemic in which I'm literally stuck five hours every day going through every song to know, oh, okay, this is why this.
I don't know why I just never studied the science of.
You knew it.
You just.
No, I didn't.
Because the thing is, it's like we would never write songs.
We would never demo a song.
We just jam and sound check.
Oh, that sounds dope.
You know, like next movement was made like a sound check in Hawaii.
It's like, oh, record the tape real quick.
And we did it for like two minutes and then came back and did that jam.
But I didn't realize...
You got me with Scientific.
That's because Scott Storch, not black, Roads, you got me.
No, no, no, but I'm just saying that, you know, all right, when the Motorola two-way pages came out, that's when I realized.
If you can program it on a two-way, that's a hit.
What?
Yeah.
Because you need a part to whistle.
Like, all right, Prince is delirious.
You know.
We never had a, what's the
of the next movement?
That's background vocals.
See, that's background vocals.
Right, right, right, no, you're right.
But I feel what you're saying, though.
I get it.
Like, Prince is the master of,
he'll do the intricate shit that interests, like, all the music nerds,
but he'll have the...
Laman's term thing.
Right, I don't want to say the idiot fact or whatever.
Like, the common man's thing that attracts them to it.
Regular folks.
Yeah, pop songs or you got to have that sticky part that people remember,
and then you window dress it with.
Did you know this with Amiris speaking?
I get what he talking about.
I'm just shocked to hear that he did it.
I didn't know how to format songs or any of that stuff until two years ago.
For you, though, did you know the science of comedy or was it just like,
I'm going to go out here and just say what I feel and then...
Or do you learn when you bomb?
Like, when's the first time you bomb?
First time really bombed.
There was a show in Carbondale that it was a, it was an Apollo-style show with multiple disciplines.
So music, dance, poetry, comedy, and it wasn't produced.
Well, there was no microphone.
And so I was kind of just up there talking, no stage.
A friend of mine at the time was actually the so-called Sandman.
And I was trying to, I was, somebody interrupted me,
and I didn't know how to handle that at the time or control the room.
I'm up there with no mic.
And then, so then he starts vamping towards the stage.
And so then they started getting more hyped.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then he just, you know, Sandman traditionally dances you off stage.
For some reason, he picked me up.
and threw me over his shoulder.
Your friend, your friend.
Yeah, we were in the same performance.
He wanted to make his big fun.
Yeah, and so then, and I actually had somebody,
I got the footage of it.
I'm like looking into the camera like, stop the tape.
Stop the tape.
But that one, that one was a rough room right there.
But yeah, I think I learned, you just, it's trial and error,
and you see kind of what people connect with more.
So I think the first two bits that were really,
that kind of really connected with people in a different way
than the others were talking about kicking pigeons
and flicking pickle juice, we're the ones.
And I think that's also this premise choice too.
Speaking of comedians.
That's a man.
That's hilarious.
Look at you.
What are you.
What are you?
So how are you, sir?
Don't worry about it.
So how are you, sir?
How are you, buddy?
Good to see it?
All right.
Great to see.
How's it?
I heard it's not going that good.
Subpar.
Just tricking it out, you know?
Yeah.
Wait, where's the last time this happened when, uh,
when Andy Patamkin,
when Mandy Patamkin walked in?
Oh, Mandy Patiggan, yeah.
Maybe you want to take one of your famous commercial breaks now, I mean?
Farrell is so hot and tall.
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Give me out of here.
Give me out of here, please.
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Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators,
and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
So let's get to it.
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This week on the Sports Slice podcast,
it's all about the NFL draft,
and we've got a special guest.
The director of the NFL's
East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco,
joins the Sports Slice podcast
to break down what really matters
when evaluating draft prospects.
From hidden traits teams look for
to the biggest mistakes
franchises make
to the players flying under the radar,
this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else.
If you want to understand the draft
like an insider,
you don't want to miss this episode.
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When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
They take matters into their own hands.
I vowed. I will be his last target.
He is not going to get away with this.
He's going to get what he deserves.
We always say that trust your girlfriends.
Listen to the girlfriends.
Trust me, babe, on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Everyone, I'm Ego Vodom.
My next guest, it's Will Ferrell.
Woo, woo, woo, woo.
My dad gave me the best advice ever.
He goes, just give it a shot.
But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.
If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.
It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat.
Just hang in there.
Yeah, it would not be.
Right, it wouldn't be that.
There's a lot of luck.
Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins.
But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax.
You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct?
I doctored the test ones.
It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern.
Two more men who'd been through the same thing.
Greg Gillespie and Michael Mancini.
My mind was blown.
I'm Stephanie Young.
This is Love Trapped.
Laura, Scottsdale Police.
As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.
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