The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: Jason Sudeikis

Episode Date: December 30, 2020

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From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.

Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio. I like the way them, I like the way them fingers tickle. That's a mirror. Wait. Wow. That was in the most.

Wow. Well, Bill, I like the way your fingers. I know. I mean, thank you. What? I'm honored. I think, you know, I play a little song. I do type like a person that, like, went to type in class.

Dude, do you do ASDF and J.K.L. Yeah, SdF, H.K.L. And Coney-Ell and Semi-Cole. Yo, that shit, one of the best things we ever learned in school. Oh, my God. I know. Digisto. My children have computers to run their lives, but they never learned how to type.

So, like, they can do it, but, like, it's, they do this. They type, like, police officers on television. All right. I'm going to bring Jason in the place. All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we've come to that time of the year again. You know, guys, we're creeping up on our fifth year as a family, I believe. That shit is crazy.

It is crazy. 2016, that was when we started, right? 2016. Yeah. I kind of feel like, it's always weird. Like, I always feel like we're on our proverbial,

like, second year going into maybe the third year. Like, but we're, we're about to be half a, half a decade, uh, deep in this.

We're no longer the, the bell of the ball, you know. Oh, I know. Straight up. I feel like someone's going to be like, newbies anymore.

I can't believe you're still doing this after. I know. I didn't think I would be doing this for five years when I agreed. When Sean called me, it was like, hey, you want to do this? I was like, yeah. I didn't think this is going to last five years. A couple months.

Right. I was the pilot episode. And nobody can find. It's the same way Alec Baldwin felt about playing Trump. It just sneaks up on him. Man. Yeah, he's been doing that joint for like, yeah, for the whole four years. The fact that no one's like, why Trump didn't like look into Alex Baldwin being the one

that would have voted multiple times just so he wouldn't have to play him. It seems like that's where I would have gone immediately. And if anybody's pulling those levers and making those, you know, connecting those dots, it's going to be Alex Baldwin just doing that gig. Like, what's next? You know, all right. So I was about to say that it's, it's our, this is our year-ender episode. And as usual, we bring in a spirit, a very special guest with us to sort of trade off the review of the year. this year of course being unlike any other year we've ever had so this will probably be less about movies TVs and and you know records that we've got into even though we'll talk about it but always good to have an outside voice into our circle it's one of my favorite cats of course you

know is legacy from SNL and of course I mean it comes from the school of second city we've seen all of his films name them from horrible bosses to to haul past a colossal. I'm like going off the top. I was like when I'm trying to shout them out. Yeah, I was going to say like when it's like real friends, I don't do the preppy thing. But I appreciate that. No, that actually says I'm lazy. You know what?

That actually says how lazy I am because I someone, a friend of mine who I knew for, seven years hits me last night at one in the morning and she says, oh my God, you're the group that does, you got me? Wow. And I was like, wait, we've known each other for seven years. What exactly do you know me for? You play it on that

band on a tonight show? Well, yeah, she said, like, I know Jimmy Fallon, no, no, no, no. She's trying to blame it on it, but she's like 30 something. And, but no, no, no, no. A humbling. No, no, no. But there's this thing we should all everyone in this room has some sort of new variety where you have that one person that just wants to go the extra mile to neg you you know like act like they don't care like oh i know you as a mirror that's i get that more than anything in life like i used to have that role but my thing is that is not humbling like that that that's not like a goal you're not getting a gold star because like you're not going to

figure out who I am. But anyway, I digress. My whole point was that I should, even with friends come on the show, I should prep and have their history ready and treat them as regular guests and not just go off the top. But, you know, I'm a fan as well. Anyway, please welcome Jason Sudakis.

Yes, sir. Well, I wanted to give you to Jason simply because when we get to the TV portion, yeah, the one show that I did, did not expect to be on my

wow, that was cool. Bingo 2020 list was definitely Ted Lassow. Like I had no idea how cool gotcha. That show was, was good. Very amazing.

Hey, if I hadn't, if I hadn't been there the whole time, I would have been with you. I'd be like, what is this piece of dog shit? But I had a, I had a good view, soup to nuts on that whole thing.

And I was kind of, this motherfucker might sneak up. Yeah. No, it's, thank you. No, it is. It is, man. All right. So, okay, what I want to do is some rapid fire.

I know we usually have our list ready and we go in a circle, but, you know, some of us can answer these things. Some of us don't have to answer these things. But I will start with Lai. Damn. Ain't that some shit? Ladies furrow. Ladies furrow. Did you see me lean back?

I lean back. Like, I know I'm going to be in the cut. I'm going to wait. Okay. Okay. Here I come. All right. Okay.

So we'll start with an easy one. give yourself some props. In 2020, I I got two more jobs. Yes. Yes. You did.

I did. Just trying to be like my brothers. Well, all of y'all actually, motherfuckers on here. Yeah, from Steve to Ramere to Fonte to Bill. Yeah, I'm the only. Even Jason has various jobs. In Jackson, yeah.

Like, yeah. Jobs. Next. Bill Sherman. I became a homeschooling, almost alcoholic. Hey. supposed to be positive. I think that's what, that's positive.

Wait a minute. Bill, you don't know what it's like. Bill, guess what? Same? I don't know what that means, but I don't with it. Yeah. But who's schooling who? Okay.

Hey. you know same. Nah man. You step dad now. Fonty- Oh God. Can you Can you remember

like thinking about like July, August how jingly all of our recycling bags were taking them out to the tracks. It was, clank,

clank, clank, like it was dude, it was not recycling. Like, don't even start

or recycling. I was like, what is, what is, going on. I'd pull it out of the thing. Because normally there would be paper in there. They're like Amazon boxed is something to cut it. No. Just glass on glass on glass.

Jingle-dangle. Shit sounded like the warriors. Right. Exactly. I'd say what big up to box wine makers. They stepped it up this year. I just wanted to also say it's nice. Oh, yeah. Boom, box wine. Turn homeschooler.

I don't know if I could be on the geographic spelling bee, but shit. Here I am. All right. In 2020. In 2020, I think I just, I got to the root. It was just a lot of stuff. I finally had time. I think a lot of people, I finally had time just to really sit still and think about things.

And so I just cleaned up a lot of stuff in my life. Just a lot of things that, a lot of old behaviors, a lot of old, you know, thought patterns, a lot of practices. I'm in the middle now, in the process now, like selling my townhouse. Like I had like rental property. And I was like, yeah, I'm got rental property, this and that. but not realize, I don't want to be no landlord, dude. Like, fuck this shit. You know what I mean?

Anything that gets in the way of me getting to the chair and working on my craft, that shit got to get the fuck out of here. Yeah, it's goals. Good for you. There you go. That was a big thing for me. Okay. Sugar Steve.

Got a haircut. Yeah. Sugar Steve. Man. Sugar Steve came in with the number two on the barbershop chart, right? Oh, man. You know, man. What's up?

Wait. Can we ask about this haircut, Steve? He got confident. But people are fascinated by haircuts. Yeah. Dude. I'm way back. You know what I'm saying?

You bring back the Tom Hanks' bosom buddy 83 look. I think that's the cut-up haircut. No, that's the Uncle Ned. He bringing back the Uncle Ned, Tom Hanks from family ties. No, y'all are hearing me. That's the cut-up haircut. Oh, I see. You understand what I was saying?

He got new sugar. You're some in the building You sugar I'm going to get laid or something or just going to Yeah

Look at me Steve Anytime a woman enters The stratosphere Everything changes We start shaving We get a haircut

We got sexy As lights in the background Look at red light Pistick Shut up Here It's a haircut At the end of the day

So Yeah You look good, Steve. It looks good, man. You look younger. Well, the real story is my dad. It's who apparently still thinks it's 1962, and it's okay to tell your son to cut his hair.

This is what he wanted for Hanukkah. Oh. Wait, was it conditional on you know what? On your own gift. No, this haircut is a five-figure haircut. Yes. So it worked out for everybody. It was a good time.

He really made him happy. So whatever, just hair. So what's the question? Yeah, in 2020, I, I didn't drop dead. That's good. There you go. Yeah, that's good.

There you go. Knock on wood. More goals, more goals. You live. Okay. I didn't start drinking. And, uh, And I put out a couple records

and most importantly was able to continue to work and go to work. Yeah, man. That's real. Word. You know, well, yeah, continuously working, but then being able to go back to 30 Rock around when, shall I or something like that?

When did we go back? Is that it? That's it? Because that was a long answer. Well, half my answer, half my answer, you guys we're talking. Yeah, Harrogate, you know. Yeah, Harrison.

Okay. Well, great. That's great. All right, Jason. Give yourself some props in 2020. In 2020, I put on 30 pounds and then I took off 30 pounds. Hey. Nice.

For real. Because I'm saying, you're looking pretty good over there. I appreciate that. But no, I mean, it's something. Yeah, because it was a slow, it was a slow march towards it. And then I stepped on a scale. And I came in, I was coming in at 205, which is, you know, outside my comfy zone. And yet I was, I was rocking, you know, mostly shorts and hoodies.

So you can, you kind of don't feel it. But I knew that I wasn't feeling myself. And then over the last like, yeah, over the last, you know, six weeks, I just kind of like got, you know, got after it and was like, let's, we got to end 2020 on a make. And so, yeah. But it wasn't like, it wasn't a con. It was, it was more emotional stuff. And, you know, like, I mean, yes, a little bit of diet and a little bit of being active, but it was mostly just kind of like, just, yeah, just like, you know, like you were saying another about, you know, turning off some of the noise and just kind of like, okay, what's, what I got doing? Get back, get back to feeling yourself. And then, you know, not soon after that, you can actually see yourself again. That's what I'm sorry. Good. Did you take, when y'all were tape and Ted Lassow, did you, did you take the weight off before then or prior to then? Like, when did it happened? We shot all that last. We shot all that.

last fall like basically you know mid like August to mid-November so it was pretty much a steady a steady in into this you know because because you know having a regimen you know where you wake up you know you have your yogurt you know then you drink a bunch of water to the day like it's when you know it's when I started go off the clock and you know then it was editing and then it was you know the writer's zoom you know which I'm less inclined to you know fuck around snacks when they're right in front of me but then when you're at home then it's like been putting the kids to bed late and then

eating until 10 o'clock and just on and mother up and on. It all compounds. Oh my God. And it's just like a pound a week and you don't even realize it, you know, because your pants are kind of like going with you. Just like, I'm like, oh no, like, you know, like between my like, like my body and the like, yeah, I was just like, no, this is this, this cannot continue. So yeah. So our Peloton is making a killing.

Yeah, exactly. Who this week? Somebody knew this week out of Pelotime. Yeah, exactly. 10%. Okay. So from a 1 to 10, Laia, how much did you change in 2020? From 1 to 10, how much did you change? What's your number? My inner self? Like my inner inner self? Just in general. You know what? I'm going to say, I feel so bad in saying this in this whole COVID life is a five. I'm going to say a five because my change is more of being physical and being still. So it's more, so I'm going to say five. Yeah.

This is the first time I really felt like I lived in California. Wow. Because you weren't traveling so much. Yeah, because I was always traveling and going back and forth to the East Coast and whatnot. So, but, you know, yeah. Do you miss traveling or, well, I'm sure now. Hell yeah. I was just thinking the other day.

I was like, I miss us in a room recording together. I miss my parents. I miss people who I miss East Coasters like that. But love, I just miss, yeah. All that. I see. I miss, I miss like airplane Wi-Fi, you know? Like, or watching a movie you never would pick normally because, like, it's your only choice.

Jason, I was going to tell you, that's a good way to pick what you, some of your favorite movies of the year. It was like what we said. 100%. Yeah. And yet, and yet I haven't been on playing. I think, I, like, I went back to New York from, you know, to play, you know, the last time I played Joe Biden, like in whatever it was January, February, right before the COVID, you know, the lockdown and I can't tell you what the hell I did on that. I probably watched cuts of Ted Lassow because I was in the middle of editing.

Yeah, I was looking at my, I opened my Regal app the other day and to see, because I was thinking like, what was the last movie I saw on it? Dude, I literally could not remember. Yeah. And the last one we saw, we went and saw the photograph, the, the, the Eastaway. Yeah. Which is, you know, your top ten list of the best movie for 2020, yes. Probably not.

You said, oh. But I saw it. I mean, I just thought that on cable the other day. The cinematography is beautiful. No, it looks great, but yeah, but I saw it. That was the last one. And I really had to look that up because I could not remember for shit what it was. Yeah, I was going to say, I do miss JetBlue movies.

Yeah. You didn't answer your own question, Mr. Love. Oh, yeah. Oh, me? Good catch. Yeah. In 2020, I. Oh, I changed.

Okay, college I changed A lot How did you change? How did you change? I mean, we see the weight, we saw the weight loss. Congrats on that. Just in general, man.

I never slowed down. You know, I was challenged to just Like, I'm the king of no, which is also makes me the king of certainty. Like, if there's something I want in life It's certainty, which is why I like, oh, three jobs, I'll take that. Wait, 10 jobs, I'll take that. 19 jobs, I'll take that.

So that should tell you my whole life is based on certainty and survival and that sort of thing. I just, yeah, I believe people will call that a trauma response. Yes, there. No, no bullshit. No, no, no, you're right. Okay, A.A. the hustle, yeah. You're right, which is, okay, so here's the thing. So we learned that word this year.

With one of the records that I listened to this year, you know, Prince released the deluxe edition of Sign of the Times. And so I have a different relationship with that record because there's a period between 9th and 11th grade in which my parents either had the option to have gas on in the house. or I go to this particular school. Wow. And they sacrifice to put me in a particular school. So to not have hot water and gas and all those embarrassing things that teenagers go through, like, let's go to your house.

No, no, no, no. You can't do that. How can we never get to go to your house, Amir? Let's go to your crib. You know, that sort of thing. You say you had all the soul trees. No, I don't. Just anything.

anything to not show you how much, you know, because those, you know, they were like not snobby rich kids or whatever, but they were like, well. They had gas in their house. I was about they had kids. Right. At the fucking minimum.

They had that. Snobby, snobby middle class, motherfucker. With three square meals a day and shit. Yeah. They got one extra roll of toilet paper under the sink. At least middle class. Yeah.

No, the day that sign of the times came out in March of 87 was the day that we got our gas back on. So to go from like 84 to 87, like not, that taught me such a lesson. But the lesson I learned when we finally had like hot water on and the heat in the house, like there was a never again chip that just set off in me that I never let go. Never go through that. Yeah, yeah. Never again. Like I don't.

care like even like before you would ask me like what are your life goals in me and I say like okay I like to do to do this project if you would have asked me like maybe four years ago what's your goal it would probably just been never to go back to life on O'Sage Avenue which I think I think never again is a big motivator like like if you when you hit that like I know I'm dealing with a never again personally. I know, and I can think of the immediate never again that's never allowed me to take a job just for money. I remember that clear as day. And it was like, never again will I do that? It was, well, I didn't mean to cut you off, but I just, I was, I could, I'll tell you that story. Of course, off Supreme. Let me, let me take it from here. Let me show you. But I believe that. I think that never again is

a powerful thing, even almost more so than like when you achieve a dream. Like, I'm never going to go back to that again. I'm never going to go back to those patterns. But for me, the never, the never taking a money gig. I was doing comedy sports in Kansas City. I did this thing called, like an improv thing. And my buddy, Corey, ran the, you know, ran the office. And he gets a call from like, you know, a company to do a corporate gig where it's like, hey, you know, you'll dress up like, you know, Egyptian pharaohs and you'll, you'll carry in the person, you know, like almost like Cleopatra style, like, you know, the CEO or whatever. And it's like, okay, great. And it's like, it'll be 200 bucks for like a half hour. It's like, oh, that's great.

I live with my parents. So that was all CD money, you know, and DVDs. We show up there and they give us a costume. And this is right after I was playing college basketball. So like I was in, you know, about as good as shape of I've ever been in my life. And it was like, it was like a loin cloth and like like a, you know, like a, you know, like a, you know, necklace like Ruth Peter Ginsburg kind of thing. And then like these things and basically had to be like half naked, you know, in the middle around all these people and walk in. And I was like, I was like, I hated it. I hated it. I hated it with a passion. And I was like, I am never like, because I, the whole reason I do is because it's 200 bucks for 30 minutes. And I was like, I'm never doing that

again. I am never taking a job solely for the money. And that was my never again and that happened at age 19. I think with me though and even with the premises of like my earliest book, or at least with two of them, I know that I've stated

especially in the creativity book where I talked about deciding what you wanted to be in life is first like David Byrne gave me advice where he says well first of all decide what you're not. And I used to go by that but I think deep-seated that was there.

That was my glass half-empty approach because I'd never asked myself once what would make me happy. Hmm. You know, so, you know, I, I knew y'all tired and I roll in every time I'm not. Now you left us on a cliff. Now I want to know. Nah, this is really.

I'm like, what? Did you come to a conclusion? Did you come to the direction? I know that you're all tired of me always like deferring the grace. Like, you know, because you have to make the change. You just can't say like, right, right. My girlfriend made me do this.

No. But no, she just challenged me. She's like, you, you live, you live your life by, I don't want to get canceled. And I don't want to fall off. And I don't want to be broke. It's fear. I don't want to be ignored during a war season. She's like, what do you want to do?

Like, if you're living by defense, you can't fly. And then once, once I felt it was, once I felt it was safe. enough. 2020 provided the time period where I felt it was safe enough to because we were all in the same time and then it's like okay well what would you like to do and so that's that's where I'll say that that's where I changed that's a great way to go into 50 yeah I said this recently when we were just talking about like like the concern of like me dealing with with with love and I'll get into this when I get my answer but like the notion that you can be afraid of that making that choice of going for what you want because like the you know fear of success and you know is just as scary as a fear of failure right and so at some point I thought I thought okay if I was completely vulnerable if I completely gave over to to something to love you know specifically it would feel like I'm falling but with just with just a little bit of understanding and after you've fallen for for long enough I was like oh no no no I'm not falling I'm actually flying I'm flying

I'm flying. And I was like, and that, I mean, I said that for the first time like, you know, four days ago. And when I said it, it just spilled down my mouth. I was like, I was like, oh, I mean that like crazy. And I had no idea that I was going to say that. But it makes all the sense in the world to me because it was a 100% fear of falling. And then you're just like, no, I'm not falling. It's like, I'm not going to land anywhere.

Yeah, I'm flying. It's just, you know, same sensation, you know, just. Right. Just a different way to see. Yeah. So what number would you give your, yourself from one to ten how much did you change in 2020 me personally yeah me Jason I mean I would say I would say you know ending ending here at the full

extent of the year attend whoa total 10 100% 100% 100% it's very scary very scary thing at some point you know the universe was that was encouraged me to do it and given all given all the indicators you know and I was you know just you know like Wonder Woman, just blocking them all, just ding, ding, ding. And then, and then at some point, they just found the gaps. And they're like, no, you're going to have to fucking deal with this. You're going to have to deal with this in a real, real way. And both the highs of it and the lows of it, you know, internally externally,

like from, from, you know, on a business, you know, side of things and how personal I, you know, take my business. And then also the business of my personal stuff, you know, which, which, you know, came home to roost. And it's like, yeah. and I'm better for it and glad it happened. But I'm still on that hero's journey. So it's like, yeah, bring on 2021.

I'm ready for it. 10. Awesome. Yeah. 10 straight up. Fantigula. What's your number? Man, I say probably, I say probably, like seven, eight, probably.

It was not so much, I don't know if it was so much. Well, it was a big change. It was a big mental shift just in, you know, just things that I, you know, just kind of uncovered in therapy and just, you know, talking through. stuff but it wasn't so much a big shift as much as it was just really just settling into myself and realizing what was really important to me and what I really like you know I mean and uh there's one of a big kind of revelation I have like when we talk about movies and stuff you talk about prints you know um I was watching I was thinking about Jazzy Jeff and he has this

thing he always says where he says to die empty where he talks to creators and he says yo die empty die empty you know what I'm saying like all the stuff you do you know write some songs for yourself give some songs away, produce something for other people, whatever. But whenever you go, make sure that, you know, you empty, right? Die empty. And I always thought that was amazing.

I was like, yo, that's great. I believe that. But then I kind of thought, you know, just during the show, I was like, you know what? I'm with it. But to die empty is to die early. You know what I mean? Like when I looked at all my people,

like when you look at people like prints and like when I watch like the Zappa documentary, you know what I'm saying? The other night, you know, these were guys that were incredibly prolific. but them niggas died in they 50s bro you know what I'm saying and it's like I just had the realization of like

you know there is no way with the way my mind works and just the way shit is just always coming to me there is absolutely no way that I could die empty because I'm always having there's no way I can write every song that's in my head like it's just no way possible in order for me to fully give myself over to that

I could do it but literally every aspect of my life would fucking collapse you know everything else will collapse and, you know, and for what for? So for me, it's just a big shift of just realizing just to get out what you can, but always make room for the things that are really important. And, you know, it ain't cool to die at damn 54, 55, you know what I'm saying?

And that was just kind of the big thing for me of just realizing what was important and just understanding that if you don't write every single, if you don't develop, every, you know, 400 voice note ideas in your phone. It doesn't mean you're feeling as an artist. You know what I'm thinking? What was I thinking at the time period? Yeah, it's like, dude, you're never going to, you know, just do the ones you can and then just keep it pushing.

That's a goal too. Die empty feels like, like, you know, like seize the day. Like, it's a great idea on paper, but like sees the day, hanging out with someone that's like Carpe Diem, I feel like would be exhausting. That shit is exhausting as fuck, bro. It's like Andy Kaufman's stand-up gigs. It's like I'd rather hear about it than be there for the whole thing. Right, right.

It's like having Tony Robbins as your friend. And she's like, nigga, I don't need to be this motivated all the time, dog. Yeah. It's just like what's your inside voice. But understand, fellas, in this moment and what you're saying, Fonte is so beautiful, but that is like a goal. Like what you're saying, like to be able to actually sit and say, you know what?

I feel like I've done this and I've done that. People know and I'm fulfilled. and I'm about my family. That is like, that's the goal. I want to drink. And to do it as a young age where you are, when people are usually still in the midst of the struggle of still trying to get to a one dream done.

Like, I just want to say in this moment, like, what a blessing to say that. And let me say, man, and let me say, like, because I think it goes, it would be kind of tone deaf to not say this. I mean, listen, we are all of us on this call. We are all, you know, what most would consider, you know, financially successful people. You know what I'm saying? Only this shit.

I'm two years off the couch. I'd like to remind people. This is why the first thing I said was I have three jobs because I don't, I never want to go back to the couch three years ago, Jason. Yeah. I'm new money. New money.

Hey, I love it. I love it. But even still with that, but even still with all that, though, like just hearing all the stories. I mean, I guess the thing that I just always stress is like, the biggest thing I learned because I mean, we all have a never again story, right?

was, you know, the couch and, you know, the gas. And I've been there, too, like having to heat up, you know, water in the, in the morning to take a wash up before school and having the oven, all that shit, you know what I'm saying? But the thing is, and when you grow up poor, you think like, okay, man, when I make money, then I'll be straight. All I need is money, money, money. And then you get the money and you still realize that you got to work on you. And so, you know, a lot of times I think that it, the one of the thing is that it, the one of the thing

that gets missed is like that the conversation you don't hear is like yeah you can make money and it's great to have money and it's fantastic and I'm thankful for the money that I make but your money can't save you from yourself you know what I mean and well I'm about to say you know what those

conversations aren't heard a lot especially in around with black folks because we just get into the money part. We're just getting right. We just getting to the money part and we see more money more problems because we just thought it was a song. It was like let me get there first. All right. So Steve, what's your number?

How much I've changed? Yeah, one to ten. Well, the haircut gets me to a five right off the bat. Yes. For real. Big facts. Only up from there. I don't, you know, beyond, in all seriousness, I don't. It's okay to not have a life-changing experiment.

There's some people who still live their lives the same way every day. I mean, I changed not much, but. From the deaths, I'm in New York City, and that whole early period was rough. The whole 7 o'clock people going to their windows and balconies. That was all, that was all very, so I'll say, I'll say seven. Oh, also, I think this is, this change too. Like this wrinkle here is moving to the right over here. See it?

Making a right turn. That's a 2020 thing right. Interesting. It's moving, it's moving across. Yeah, these two here, which I call the 11, which we all kind of get.

But then this one kind of, kind of making a right turn over here. And I think that's new from this year. Downhill. All right, Sherman, what's your number? I don't know. I guess I say a six or seven. I turned 40 this year.

I think for the first time, like I've been running. in my whole life. Baby. What a life, William. Wait, I'm 10 years older than you? Yeah, motherfucker. But I don't have red lights in my room. But I'm, you're old.

Phillips Hugh. You know, Phillips Hugh. Anybody can do it. I turned 40 and I stopped because I've been running so long. It was nice to like stop and look around and like, I don't know, focus on shit that wasn't working and hustling and da-da-da-da. And it was just nice to just take a break. break for a minute. Like, I've been spending a lot of time just about me, which I never do.

Like, it's just work and work and working and work and now it's just like not. And it kind of feels good about that. I had to like, regroup, rethink. Stop drinking at 11, like, ready to go. Yeah. Fucking mad. Oh, okay. I'm, I'm childless. So can you explain to me what is, what is the daily, what's the daily grind of a homeschool parent, especially one in New York? Up at 730. breakfast, close, 8 a.m. First Zoom call. At 8.30 to like two, the kids are on Zoom. Your school zooms you first or you Zoom to school?

The kids zoom to the school. Okay. My kids. They work, they break for an hour for lunch, but at a different times, like the devil has lunch at 11. And the other one has lunch at like one. So it's like a whole. Jason, he has two daughters and one's the devil and one's not the devil. That's not going to.

You got to stop. You got a six and a half year old boy, Otis, and a little girl, Daisy, four. Are they totally different? They are pretty different, yeah. Like, Daisy's like a puppy and Otis is like a cat, you know. She jumps right. She jumps right in a pool, you know, he'll take 20 minutes to get in like me. Exactly.

You know, but yeah. Not just me, what I'm getting to. And then like, Daisy and Odis, not the devil. Daisy's the devil. Oh, okay, okay. She will be. I know how her mom was as a teenager, we can already, we see that coming. Yeah, no, it's clear.

It's in our essence. Okay. 233 school ends, homework, hang out, dinner, shower, bed. That's the day. Monday to be. Really? And it goes that way perfectly without any like. Fuck no.

Fuck no. It's a disaster. Every day is a disaster. But that's just what it's supposed to be. Yeah. That's, that's, yeah. Those are, those are cords. and you solo around those.

Yeah. It's like there and C, and we're playing in like D minor. Like you dig, like it's close, but it's not like real close. But does that allow you to do? Because, I mean, you also work at Sesame Street full time. I do.

So how do you balance both? Full time is a loose. Relative term. It's all very, you know, metaphoric and... The artist workshop, maybe. My essence. My essence is.

So you're basically winning a lot of reruns right now. Okay, I get it. I get it. So anyway, there's a lot going on. Just trying to, you know, keep my head above the clouds. I see. All right. I give myself a six as well.

Fucker, I give you 104. No. I give it a six. Like in every way for the past year. What do you go? Six, man. There's still other lessons. There's like Captain Avi's lessons.

that I'm learning in front of the world in real time. Yeah. And then there's still some shit that I'm stubbornly dealing with, you know, like when good things happen, I find a way to fuck it up and I got to stop doing that. So can we rewind, can we rewind to our year and review from last year? Was nothing like our year review? No, it was not like this. And the fact that I can't remember that lets you know is different.

Amir, you were not this like, zen. Oh, man you are now. Oh. Yeah, dog. We were just friends back then. You had like the grace plus 12. Like if you're at a six, that means an 18. Because Grace had 12.

I feel like a six. No. Grace is like a 97. She gets up at 5 a.m. Already jumping on the trampoline. Yes. Her. I'm not doing the trampoline dog.

It sounds to me like everybody feels you've earned your Rick Rubin merit badge. Yeah. Yeah. I'm on the way there. I'm on the way there. He's got a white room. He's got a red. It's something.

Yeah. I'm on the way on the way there okay so real quick kind of rapidly when did you realistically think quote that this would be over I thought this will finally be over October I thought around Halloween we'll be back to normal yada yada yada yada when did you think that did you think that in March I thought that in April oh hell no yeah yeah I'm not I on my card I was already looking at 22 22. Like, that was my thing. Because the thing was, damn, bro, Fonte. No, because, man, because the thing was, like, just a bunch of conspiracy theory. I mean, like, dark shit, go ahead. No, I mean, because the thing

was, I guess, you know, because when we did our last shows, it was like March of this year. We did Philly and Baltimore. Those are the last two little brother shows we did. And we were even a little skittish about doing those, you know what I'm saying? Because it was when it was kind of starting, but not really. But we was like,

I think we can pull these off. We had our sanitizing everything. So, you know, we checked in the hotel, we wiped stuff down, and it was cool. And you're doing that already and everything. Yeah, we was doing that in March. And so then when we got, we finished that, um, they called, well, they didn't call, but that's when they announced that South by Southwest was canceled. Yeah. And when they canceled South by Southwest, I said, if they canceled, if they canceled South by Southwest, Coachella is next. And if, and if Coachella gets canceled, 2020's a fucking rap, dog. It's over. You said that. And then, and then, He did.

Yeah. He got to mark. I was like, yo, it's a rap. And then the fucking NBA can like, a billion dollar business and they just going to stop that shit. Yeah. It's a rap because it's deuces. So, so for, so I, in my mind, I was thinking of that.

And then I just thought, well, okay, if this is all a 2020, 2020, 2020 is going to be the year of like preparation. Like, you know, it's just kind of the what the fuck year is what happening. Then 2021 will be the year where we kind of start to, you know, emerge and, you know, and then 2022 is finally when, you know, things, I don't think will be normal, but there will be, yeah, maybe, but even then with that, for me, the mask ain't going nowhere. Like, we, I'm about to be Michael Jackson with my shit. That's right.

It's shining up a life. No vaccine, whatever. Yeah, it's like, and that's what I think just for me this year was just a lesson in whatever. And we talked about this on, on Jill's podcast. Like, yeah, like, whatever lessons that you learned in 20s. 2020, these are the lessons and the practices that you're going to need to carry you out for the rest of your life. You know what I mean?

Like, this is, this just ain't no shit. Oh, 2020's over and we back. Nah, if you get back out in the world trying to do the same shit that you was doing before Rona, you're going to be fucked up, cah. Yes. Wow. You're right. Mine kept sliding.

I just, mine just kept sliding with, like, I thought it was going to be a few weeks. And then, but I mean, every single benchmark that you just spoke about, I, I, I, I, I agree with in clock. And I was just like, oh, oh, oh, and I just sort of just kept going with it. I, but I, you know, but I was also, like, the day after Trump, you know, got elected, I was like, oh, he's going to get that manila folder and he's going to rise to the occasion. Like, I'm an internal optimist, you know, I literally did. I remember it was, it was, I know. I mean, like, so like, like, when I saw, like, you know, Chappelle do, you know, right after the election, I was kind of like, I'm feeling that. And then once the, you know,

and then it was like a day later, I was like, oh, wait, no, who am I kidding? But just got that a little glimpse of hope. I just thought he was going to, you know, I just assumed they give you a manila envelope that you read about who killed Kennedy, you know, who made crack, you know, like, and it's just like, and you're like, oh, my God.

And then you're like, okay, this is humbling. I understand now. Yeah, exactly. Area 51, like wherever really is. But he has the folder, but he has the folder. That's the scary part. He got the folder. You know that. He's like, yeah, no, I get it.

I get it. I get it. I get it. And then he gave it away. Yeah. But so I thought this. I thought every, I thought, you know, I thought every, you know, a couple months. And then, yeah, somewhere around the mid, mid, yeah, it was probably around the NBA for that same reason.

It was like, oh, this is a, this is bad. Like, if they're going to shut this down. Yeah, man. It was like a, it was like a whiplash effect. Like me and my cousin, we talked about. And she had like the most like beautiful analogy for it for COVID. She was like, you know, years ago, her and her husband, they lost, they had a kid and they lost the kid, her ex-husband.

And she said in therapy, a therapist told her that the reason why a lot of couples don't make it after they lose a kid is because their grief never sinks up. So like one person will be in bargaining, one person will be in, you know, acceptance, one person being in anger, you know what I'm saying, whatever. And it's like, and it's like, you know, It was like the same thing. That's what we're going. Because it's like, yo, it's because everyone is at a different point of understanding where we are, where we are.

And that's really something. Yeah, man. That's very heavy. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Steve, when did you think this was over initially? I mean, I can't remember what I was thinking. But I definitely thought I was going to go on.

for a long, long time. I mean, I'm really surprised how quickly that we may be able to come out of it, even if it is by, you know, next summer. I think that's pretty incredible if that happens. Yeah, I'm not right. Right. You don't trust by you?

That ain't happened in my next one. You ain't gonna take the vaccine? Oh, no, no, we jump in there. I think a mirror has an order of, no, But don't ask me that question. Really? Jay McCarthy and COVID, are you? Please don't.

Hey, McCartney. Hold on. No. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got an official answer. What?

I got an official. Here's the thing, man. Bill, this is a lot of my white friends aren't really getting why black people are so untrusting of vaccination. Tell me. And listen. And let me say this. I had to explain it to a girlfriend who's a doctor and works at the FDA who's

been in this struggle and is black and still like what the fuck is wrong with y'all? Who didn't know who Henrietta Lacks was? No, she knows all that is just her point is is that they've been putting in the work and she's like I don't believe that you know some black folks still think like this and I'm like a lot of black folks still do. Breaking down, Amir, Henrietta,

because it's not like this was a long time ago. It's not like we're talking about, you know, something that happened into 1700. Like this shit, yeah. From the Tuskegee experiment to what happened to Henrietta Lax, uh, the initial ringworm experience, experiments that they did on black people beforehand.

To the diseases that we have that they still ain't found cures for, Matt Wrecking. Yeah, just in general, black, there's a deep distrust. Like, I'll put it this way, Bill, and I'm as middle class slash 1% whatever it comes without being Carlton. A hell of a middle, yeah. I know, right? No, I will say that before

my cushy NBC insurance included job and this is not to say I didn't have insurance in the roots there was a 30 year gap before I finally went to the dentist so I went to the dentist in 2009 to get oh shit we're about black people and doctors wait oh no black men and doctors this is deep we're about to do that oh god my last my last time was at a at a, what you call it, like a student, a dental school.

Oh, like, NYU. 3rd, 1979. Oh, wow. Like, Chris Rock isn't joking that you have to be way past robatessen for, you know, even with, like I used to, I mean, Steve knows, like, Zero would get the sniffles. My now managers, uh, zero, be like, get the sniffles and be like, I'm going to check, go see the doctor. I'm like, wait, you go to the doctors because you might have a cold.

Like, that happens. Like, uh-uh, man. It took me 30 years. Imagine April of 1979 to, to, when my teeth about to fall out, like May of 2009, I finally went to the dentist. Finally. Like, there's just a deep distrust that we've had. And yes, I believe in science. Yes, I, do I personally feel as though.

there is a conspiracy out to get us and da-da-da-da-da. No, I don't believe it, but it's going to be a hard time. It's going to be a hard sale. It's going to take more than Barack Obama getting it himself. No, he's going to have to go down to the clinic

and he's going to have to stand next to Auntie, whoever, and I need to say that he's getting the same bio. Right. A very simple question, please. Yes, sir. Why don't you all just go to black doctors? Oh. It's black doctors, but it's still white medicine.

Yes. Believe it or not. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. You made that so simple. Thank you. Thank you.

Black doctors, but it's still, we have black doctors, but it's still white medicine. Black scientists, too. For the record, for the record, for the record, the, the woman,

who's the, the woman on the team? Which the company that Dolly Parton gave a million dollars? Madonna. Pfizer? Was it? No, not Pfizer, but Moderna. Okay.

It's an African-American woman who is helming the lead into the vaccine. You know, Biden is, we're in there. We're in there. That's not the point, though, Steve. I'm sorry. It really is well down to kind of what Fonte said. And then what Amir said about the history. I'm not saying I'm 100% distrusting, but I will just say, like, I want to see what happens

maybe the first two months. Exactly. It's like we, for me, I'm going to take it. I'm just not going to be in that first round. Yeah. It's like, it's like the first generation. You don't get the first Apple. You never get the first phone.

You never get the first laptop. You never get the first iPod. Never, ever, ever, ever. You never do the first update on your phone. Never get the first update to Big Sur. Don't do that. Don't fuck yourself, big sir. What the fuck?

Now we get it. Now we get it. Now we get it. Now we get it. Yeah, Bill and I get it now. We get it. Yeah. Thank you, Jason.

We were on the not knowing, angle. Now we get it. But can I just tell you that I am happy that 2020 is the year that America is finally getting to know black people. And I am excited about that. It's nice. Whatever it takes. Yes. I've been on a podcast for five years and I don't know shit about black people.

And that's saying a lot. I mean, I've been given a number of lessons and I still don't know shit. I don't know if that says about you guys or me, but either way, it says something. Yeah, you need to go to Strong Black Lead. It's already there on Netflix. That's why they got them. Okay. Just strong out now.

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Color, yeah, that's very necessary. First choice, huh? First choice, sir. I know, not a good choice. You were in a bunker right now, Jason. Yeah, it's like the, you know, we live in Brooklyn, but we've been out here the whole time because of this. And so, like, this became our communal office. But then when I was editing, I let Liv take this so she could do pre-production

for her movie that she's shooting now. And then I went to like a real, like a, like I just found a, this post-production house that let me even darker than this, exactly like it came with like wood paneling behind. and I would just sit at a screen and edit remotely and then get in the car. And I was like, you know, nine to five, you know, almost wearing a mask and sanitizing. We have a few people in that office. Then here that, you know, that's a TV there and that, you know, early and early, like probably like April, I was playing like, I went through and finally played GrantDOTO 5 just to drive around LA.

Just to be like, hey, it's nice to be outside. And then, I mean, that game is incredible. Seven years old and it's still like incredible. And then me and guys from the show, like writers and cast members of the show, we started playing FIFA. We created an AFC Richmond team on pro clubs. And then would just be here, hot. A little pad right next to me, jotting down ideas and lines.

And it became, you know, a sanctuary. Otis and I played, you know, the Spider-Man game up in here. You know, it was like- You on PS5 or you Xbox. Which one? Xbox. We have PS4, but I haven't got PS5 yet. Okay, I ain't out of a PS- Okay.

Yeah, but that Spider-Man game was incredible, and we can't wait for this new Miles Morales one. So, but yeah, we just chipped away at things and just like playing, like, you know, it became a place to hang out. Right before I, when I was hitting that 30 pounds, I was drinking like three Micheladas on Saturday, three Michelados Sunday.

We started writing three Buffet songs, you know, Meet feeling fine after Michelada number nine. I'm sure the lyrics of those tunes are in this notebook. Yeah, this is it. It's just like a little office right out of the thing. Yeah. All right, Steve.

What was your room of refuge? Well, I only have one room anymore. Yeah, we walk right into that. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, yeah. Just go ahead and skip me. No, I got one room too.

And then I guess I say my man's bedroom because that's my room of refuge. There's a meeting My family Fonte Golo I feel like this this This couch area is I don't know what this

switches Three light switches Yeah This is all I'm in your house Fonte so Yeah I'm in my living room This is just like a corner I mean because we had to kind of

You know rearrange some shit So we ended up having to put My son's desk For his for his schooling. So we had to buy him a new desk and then put it over by the window.

And then I'm kind of just in the corner on the other side, just in my little corner. But my place of refuge is actually, it kind of became my dick, man. Like I would just... You've never shown us anything but the switch, Fonte. You know, we did Questla... I mean...

We'd been doing this shit for a year and we've only set here and... Did you do a video in that house? Yes. No, that was my buddy's house. That wasn't my house. That was my buddy's house. He's never shown us anything

with the switch. I would show you, I will give you the MTV Cribs tour of my house. Right, yeah. Yeah, she's always, because I'm right next to the kitchen. I'm right next to the kitchen. But yeah, it was the deck. It kind of became my spot, man, because, I mean, you know, we couldn't really go anywhere. And, you know, during the, when the weather was good, I was just grill, you know,

that kind of became some of my therapy. I would just cook and I give food to my friends, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I, you know, I do ribs or whatever. And I give them a slab away, you know, I mean. And, but I just cook. And so I just be out and just, you know, just on deck might, you know, smokemeal or something. Just, you know, just enjoying the air. And that kind of became my place.

Okay. Oh, the dispensary. A place of, the dispensary was a place of refuge for some of us. Come to New Jersey, 21. True indeed. Okay. So in terms of panic purchasing. which I'm sure we did a lot of between March and maybe kind of cooled out in July once we realized the world wasn't going to come to an end.

What was the item that you panic purchased obsessively? Ring lights. Ring lights. Wow. Ring lights is right. Gotta get the right one. Got to get the right one. Ray lights.

I had to buy a little laptop stand, like with you, you know, the little mic. I bought a bar from my garage. There you go. Really? Really, Fonte, really? Really, Fonte, Bill? I bought a bar off Etsy for my garage because I needed a place to hang out. So my garage is now a fully fledged bar.

I know this podcast has made me look like an alcoholic. Yeah, Bill, this is. Well, no, mostly your content, not the, not the podcast. Yeah, thank you. You're Fonte of this year-end episode. No, for real. You just got to, you know, go up to the goods. You bought a large item from Etsy.

Can you talk about that? Because I... So I bought a bar from this guy in Florida who clearly only makes bars for people in Florida. And I said, hey, will you ship it up to New York? And he said, oh, man, that's going to cost a lot of money. This is all in Etsy, right? And I was like, oh, really?

How much? And he was like, $200. And I was like, oh, okay, cool, we're good, $200. And they, like, bring it up in one huge piece and they place it in my garage and it's on wheels. I can wheel my bar places. It's all, I'm in sight.

That's a good bar. That'll last post-COVID. Yeah, at least one year of COVID. Yeah. Yeah. Where did you see this bar to make you be like, I need this? I typed in bars for your garage, I believe. Shut.

Oh. Are you saying? Yo, not for nothing. That's how. That's how people started making. I don't even think I'm lying. I think that's actually what I typed. Some people start what?

Some people started, you know, in the summertime because people didn't realize they didn't have pools and they were stuck in COVID. Remember everybody was taking the bins, the color bins, and they were making their own pool? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. No, I remember, no, you're right, you're right. I'll deal with showing me that.

I want, I'm sorry, I don't know what that had. Okay. Good segue. Yeah. Anyway, I didn't do any, I didn't, I didn't do any, like, toilet paper or any of that. stuff. I don't think I got caught that wave. Like we didn't as a house. Oh, you know, we got, um, Liv did get us, you know, like earthquake, you know, a couple of survival kids, like Judy kids and stuff

like that. But, but I think I think it's called Judy. What is Judy? Judy. I don't know. I just know it says the word Judy on the side. I don't know. Let me look it up. It sounds like something I should have a beret. Well, I think, oh, in LA, yes, yes. Yeah, not sure out here. Yeah, I think so actually. It's, let me, let me look it up here. But I think it is. I'm pretty sure it's Judy. Is it like J-E-W-D-Y? Nope. Good old-fashioned. Judy, Judy, Judy.

Wow. Thank you, Jason. Hey, thank you, Olivia. I would, you know, I just have a bunch of double-A batteries. Like, that's going to do shit. You know, I don't know. Jason, do you know any celebrities that have bunkers, like those really fancy bunkers? I've seen, now, you know, when this happened, I looked up.

Like area two, area one? Like a panic room? Yeah. Like the hangers that you can buy. Like, I'm just curious if I, would you tell me if you did? Besides David Giffman? I would tell you if I knew, if I knew of them. But I don't know.

And baby man ain't got no. No, he's good. They got a hell of a tree house though, I believe. You know. I think I got, I think if memory serves, I haven't been to his place, but I remember him really loving like that tree house like, reality show and him, him being like, you know, won that for his daughters, which I'm super envious of.

And I mean, it was like a child. We never, we never had a tree. My dad, my dad grew up in, the south side of Chicago, like on a high rise. So he barely knows that of a change of light bulb. He's a great dad, but he always had a super. You know, someone, you know, he's Schneider always came down and fixed the locks. Snyder.

Snyder. Yeah. Yeah. Like my dad. I love that you didn't say Bookman, but you said Snyder. It's one of the other. I could have gone. I could have gone.

I know, hey, Raj and rerun. I could have gone, you know, I could have gone book. Right, right. I know. It's not my default guy, though. No, but I'm, you know. Dude, we watch one day at a time. I know she was one day at a time.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, the best. But I, yeah, the vet, the gene vest and all that. So, yeah, so yeah, I think your baby's got a treehouse. I don't know if it's, if it's ready to, you know, for nuclear fallout or anything. Damn. Panic doors and stuff like that. Amir, Dave Chappelle got one.

He got one. He got one. Not really. Okay, okay. Not really? It's not, it's not an underground. I mean, no, I mean, but he has acres. So.

you know, but it isn't like, he just turned that town into one science-believing blue town. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, the cops wear masks and they, hey, how can we help you, sir? Like, that sort of thing. Wow. I play Lawrence, Kansas. It's like the one, Douglas County is like the one blue county in Kansas, you know,

like where the University of Kansas is, like the bottleneck and the Granada. Oh, Lawrence. I know. Yeah, exactly. Is that why I always played Lawrence, Kansas? 100% yeah I mean Kansas City But yeah

That was like that was the that was the joint I mean I mean this year you know Last couple years maybe you know The Kansas City Kansas side like Wyndott County We'll have will be blue but but But as far as like internal Kansas Not like the you know our biggest city That's Douglas County

That's the university of Because we would always There was a We would always start A tour Like a major tour Like a major tour like with Beck or the Fugees, whoever.

We starred in Lawrence, Kansas. It was like a theater. It was sort of like a movie or used to be a movie theater. The Granada. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think I saw you guys there. You've been to some Granada shows? Oh, yeah, yeah, Granada, the bottleneck, yeah.

No, I mean, that was, that's where you would see folks, like, when they maybe had, you know, one radio hit on, like, the alternative. Yeah, like, I saw, like, cake there were, like, Benfold's five, like, in our first tour. Wow. know like when they were still when ben was still lugging around a piano in a you hall you know it's like yeah that's where you go the bottle neck oh damn yeah that's my spot all right what did you what did you purchase uh panic purchase lyia oh no i i i really met the ring like you know i got to tell you oh okay and and not for nothing i'm still getting fighting through

my broke mind my my boyfriend keep reminding me of that he's like you got three jobs now so you can actually buy things because yeah i still i'm just as hard it's It's hard. It's hard. Okay. Yeah, what you buy a mayor? I brought a ranch. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Like, you're in area 51. Like, you live in white peopleville. Like, you protected on all the clad by white folks. Yeah, man. I was like, uh, this is never happening again. See, there goes certainty. Never again. The never again thing.

I purchased, I purchased a bunker so that this will never happen again. All right, wait, so real quick, what's the maximum amount of people that you were quarantining with? Wait, I didn't. I didn't know a question. You got to jump in when you're getting. What did you panic by?

I couldn't buy anything. You need to pay me more. Good answer. Good answer. Good answer. He just was waiting to use that punch line. Yeah, I didn't panic. I didn't panic by anything.

I panicked gave, I think. I like, I just donated a bunch of money, like the different organizations. like I gave money to my school and shit I was just, I was just thinking I was like yo, no, it wasn't even it. It was just, I was thinking, because I mean, I kind of knew how we lived and I was like,

all right, I think, you know, we'll be cool, but I know some people that ain't going to be cool. That's a real thing that Olivia had the foresight to do of buying gift cards from, you know, restaurants that we went to in the area a lot knowing that they would be shut down, but buying like $1,000 gift cards. Like, like just literally

going here. Just like, here's some money just like, you know, I mean, you know, like, you know, Like, because we, because, you know, any given month. For the restaurant. Yeah, yeah. So, like, here's the money up front and we'll catch you on, you know, on flip-plup. But also then they did honor them, you know, when they started delivering meals and stuff. But that, you know, just helping small businesses in that regard.

That's what so. And they remember when they started seeing y'all, they was like, shit, they already paid. Yeah, yeah. All right. So speaking of food. What kind of dickheads tip with a gift card? Right. Right.

Must something for yourself. That's something nice for you. Okay. So what new item or food was your friend in 2020? Man, the undisputed heavyweight champion of the Coleman household of the 2020 pandemic is the motherfucking air friar. Listen. Really? Bro.

The air fry, it is, man, it gets it all. It damn near pretty much replaced that microwave. Like, it just everything. I mean, it'll read stuff. Bro, the air fry is a game changer, man. Like, I mean, it's basically just a fucking easy big oven for adults. But I'm not going to say, it ain't a lifestyle change but so much. But yeah, it does help.

Yeah, deep fried. Yeah, deep fry without, you know, without oil, you know what I'm saying? But it just gets your stuff crispy. Like, if you order, you know, fries from somewhere or whatever and you got something left over, you want to heat them up, they'll work. But yeah, we use it for everything. My son, he used it. He'll make his breakfast in the morning full school for you,

you know, for you jump on his laptop. And, yeah, the air fry, it saved us for real. Yo, have y'all had Jenny's ice cream? Yes. Oh, my, mother fucking, who is this bitch? Who is this bitch? She's a wizard. She's a witch.

Is that the one with the salt with like the salted peanut butter with the chocolate flecks? Do they do that there? Yes, they do. Yes, they do. And they make the really thick waffle cones where you walk in there and they just, they deliver. So is this a store?

This is a spot. This is Jenny splendid ice creams. It is all across the country. But here in L.A., they delivered during the COVID times. And that was my answer because the salted caramel, the almond butter, brickel. They have one ice cream with a kettle corn. It's just, it's a lot. And it's really good.

And I'm an ice cream aficionado. I am. I am. I am. You know what I miss from. I miss from our neighborhood in Brooklyn is Ample Hills. Ample Hills.

What is this? They crack ice cream. It's like. Crack ice cream. Come on, man. Can you only get it from New York now? Is it like? No, no.

I think they have it out here too. But they do. But, you know, that, um, you know, what was another thing we used that? Gold, gold. Gold belly.

Gold belly. Gold belly. We hit that place up, you know, a few times. Like New York. New York meals, like, you know, getting Russ and daughters, you know, sent out here. Yeah, I did that. Yeah.

It was good. You know, that was helpful. Yeah. Let me, let me shout out Halo Top ice cream as well. Oh, and for the grocery store, Ron. That's your grocery. Halo Top. Yeah.

It's, you know, I can partake in stuff that's under 15 carbs. And so Halo Top is definitely. Yo, you know what else is a great substance. You heard ice cream. No. Why are you looking at me like what kind of black person is not lactose and tybal? Because we all are all in the night. It makes us all fart and I don't know why we lie about it.

No. I love ice cream tolerance. It mess me a lot. Sure. Go to bed on some ice cream of mirror and then let me talk to Grace the next morning. Sure. I'm serious. Dog, I'm cool with it.

Another for those that are looking ways to cheat the system as far as like getting your sweets on without having to partake in the carbs. One thing I discovered this year. Cool whip. Cool. Cool. Almond milk. Is it almond milk?

No, just it's, it's low in carbs, low in sugar. You put it in in the freezer. Like that you're talking like you just invented cool whip. Cool for hours of like a hundred years ago. I know,

but it's cheating. But not like this. I mean, it's a way for you to have some heroin. It's a way for me to have some heroin without getting high. I don't know. Oh, God. It's my near.

beer. You need to check the cholesterol. It's your old duels. It's your old duels. That's hilarious. Yeah. It's my near beer. You need to check the cholesterol content because that should be

greasy. There's sugar-free cool with by you. I said cholesterol. All right. All right. Go ahead. Do your thing, Brad. I'm just saying that they also make an almond milk.

Look at me. I mean, something's working. You're right. You're right. Look at him. Look at him. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

Anyway, shout out the hail top. You're right. I'm both. Sorry. Whip. Anyway. Whip. Yeah, cool whip.

Also, shout out to Lynn's lifestyle. She's the lady who has invented miracle carb items like cornbread and cinnamon rolls. Oh, you put us on her early on in the year. Yeah. Lynn's life. Yeah. Definitely.

Her cornbread, definitely. That's. everybody going to buy somebody else's cornbread but that's good well I mean look it's not cornbread in the life sense of the term of cornbread but you know for someone that's abstaining bread

you're playing what you're talking about yeah what a big part of my life is also abstaining from bread and other white foods like rice and potatoes and all those things so can you do sweet potato can you do sweet potato I can do occasional sweet potato matter of fact when I hang up

I have some sweet potato tonight So basically she had a is it celiac? I forget something like that. Yeah, the celiac disease. Yeah. Yeah. So she had like if she looks at nuts or seeds or anything, she'll break out. Like that's how bad this woman's allergies was.

And her husband was like, I hate seeing you miserable like this. Like, you know, figure out how to make what you like out of seeds. like purer away the seeds and all those things so she would take seeds and start making bread and muffins and her name is it's Lynn's life like she makes it in her crib

it's a very small business but she's going to love this commercial yeah she's going to love this commercial how many what's the maximum what's the maximum amount of people that have been quarantining with you just three for me

it would include myself a question about what food I would eating. Come on, man. You ain't got to jump in. I want to hear it. I want to I'm very sure. I do want to hear it because I, what are you doing now that Starbucks isn't as it used

to be? Starbucks. Starbucks is, they're pretty open. There's still some of the beginning. They weren't. So how are you coping without Starbucks? When weren't they open? I told told that story back back when it started. I

I bought the type you make at home, you know, with what's it called instant, instant coffee, where you just stir it into hot water. Okay. But the crazy part was I accidentally bought decaffeinated, and I was drinking decadentated coffee for like four months without realizing, and I had gotten off caffeine. Wow. Starbucks opened up, and it's too. Back in your bag on.

Were you having headaches? No, no, because I didn't I didn't know that I was placebo. Cibo, yeah. Pacebo, man. Pacebo myself. But in answering your original question, I went back and pretty much tried

every single type of breakfast cereal that exists over the however many months between were quarantined. Really? Damn, Steve. I want to figure out. Is that bad for your sugars?

Some of them are very bad, yes. Some of them. A lot of them. A lot of them. ahead, Steve, you wanted to figure out. I wanted to figure out which was the greatest breakfast cereal of all time by revisiting all of them. Okay, all right.

I'm here for this. And there were, you know, clearly a lot of possible winners, but at the end of the day, it was... Prosser... Pops! Pops! What you say? Frosted flakes, Steve? Frosted mini-wees.

Yeah, crossed the mini-weets. Oh, wow. The little guys. Yeah. No way. I'm not mad. No way. Yeah, because it was the perfect balance of sweet and, you know,

health. In adult. Sweet and adult. But you can't eat it without milk. That's your next book. Sweet, the adult. Yeah. I'm sorry.

All right. So Fonte said three. What's the maximum amount of people you quarantine with? And it's three including myself. Just me and my wife, my son. It's just three of us. That's it. Okay.

Laya? Like, Quarantine, I mean spend time or you just came through. Okay, no, that's true. Not come through. Quarantine, I've quarantined two. Because remember, I was calling you out on social media. Yeah, but the thing is, I think one is hard to, I think it's hard to quarantine alone.

I think it's hard to quarantine with two. I think three is the perfect number. What about your 15? What about your 15? Huh? I said, what about your 15 at the ranch, the party? Yeah, but I was also on acres in a farm, but Grace and I were in a house. Of course, if I'm DJ and yeah, my motherfucker's going to come up.

But, you know, look, just everyone at ease. Steve and I regularly get tested. Yeah. So we've been pretty much 100% with our negativity. Not the rapid test, though, because you can't trust those. Sorry, yeah. You get both. Okay.

Well, I get both. Okay. You know, all right. I do combinations of both. Okay. Unpaid. What was your maximum number? me, my girlfriend, and her kid, or me, my ex-wife, and my kids?

So a combo of four to three? That's high. Wow. Based on that smile, I'll just skip this. The less we know, the better. Numbers. Numbers ain't nothing but a number. You know.

Yeah. Yeah, no. Good point. Well said. Jason, you should write that down. next to whatever Jazzy Jeff said, then whatever I said. Die empty.

You know, numbers or numbers. There you go. Numbers and numbers. Deep shit. Go ahead. Amir, you have 30 people at your Karen ranch. No, in the beginning, when I went to the farm, yeah, it was me, Grace, heard two kids.

You ain't got to do the road calls. We're going to be here. You was doing the road calls. Like, there's a lot of people. You ain't got to do them all their names. Shout them out. No. Look, we were in Grace, me, Grace and her two kids started off in our guest house.

And we were socially distanced and all that stuff with the other people. I mean, we were on a farm with a total of, at its minimum, seven people, at its maximum, sometimes 11. How old are Grace's kids? Oh, they're adults. Leaf is a Leaf is 20

oh wow she's 25 26 and um riding he's black Jesus he's like oh yeah they're beautiful

they're both like some beautiful 23 what's that like we've never talked about this ever they're cool but they're not like her kids like they're fellow adults

you know what I mean like they're um Leaf is probably the most resourceful human being I know. Like if you go to her Instagram she'll love this shout out.

If you go to Leaf's Instagram, her name is Leif, L-E-A-F. Like she does all of her, she shot her own ads that are hanging in a, like she models a lot for like a lot of these companies that are on, are in Times Square right now. So like

she'll shoot our own Times Square ads for the companies that she's modeling for. She sells. Generation Z. They're resourceful. Generation Z. Yeah, she makes, like, she has her own, like, garage sale, like, on, on the, like, I sound like an old person trying to describe this,

but she's managed to. Yeah, sorry. Well, like, she's just the most resourceful human I know. Like, if you tell her, like, I need $20,000 right now, she instantly knows, like, how to. organize and come up with it. And it's just her just L-E-A-F on Instagram. Is that her?

Okay, I'm looking at an artist as well. Her, they're both Lee from Rodin's father. He invented like the idea of the street team, like the first time you saw that. The idea of like Puffy having these like protest signs, the advertising bad boy and like stickers that you see like all over the place these rap artists or wraparound vans. Like he was with the SW1's the first street team. I think I think you're wrong.

Yeah. They just have a rest of the guns. The original street team. I don't know. I don't know, I think you've got to do your research here, but that's the actual street team. That is one of those things.

It's hard to prove, but I believe them. It's a family of hustlers. Riding, riding to me, riding right now is, I think the hardest part of life, the hardest transition in life

is somewhere between 19 and 23. Shit. So that's where you really have to push yourself to realize who you are and get into it. You don't believe in that? Fuck no. Who pushing you?

Why you got to know? At 19? Yeah. Well, I had a son at 21, so I had to figure out. You had to know. 19 to 23 is a transition. It is a big transition. It is, but it's usually it's a transition.

It's a transition in the sense. Because that's when you realize, like, or at least for me, when I graduated, you know, I was 21, I graduated in 2001. So I was like 21, 22. Yeah, like, that's when you get out and you realize, okay, whatever I'm doing now, this has the potential to be my life for the rest of my life. And that's some sobering shit. You know what I mean? Like, I was working at like a call center and shit. And it's just like, nigger, is this it?

Because it ain't no more school. You know what I'm saying? There's no more, you know, all. the whatever the rights of passage were up until this point we're done. So you can fuck around being this yeah, you can fucking around being this call center for the next damn 30 years you know what I'm saying? I was like oh hell no.

It's a good it's a good stage to find your bliss to find the thing and you're like oh I'm going to go after this regardless you know that Joseph Campbell you know say follow your bliss because that's when I like after I leaving college I play basketball in college for a little bit just community college in Kansas but when I left I was like oh I love this

and then I've moved to Chicago and that's when I officially I'm like this is me trying to be an actor. I mean, I'm going to live in my grandmother's house and drive my uncle's car, you know, but still, I knew the choices I was making was all that. And like, you know, nine to five job was just for gas because, you know, I did charge rent, like, really. Damn. Jason, how long was that life for you? How long was that? I mean, in many ways, it's still going on. Like, you know, like, you kind of, well, I mean,

that, that was, oh, it wasn't until SNL, but even SNL is not a great television, I mean, you know, I love pointing out to people, you know, that like, just for people to realize, you know, what George Carlin got paid in 1975 on October 11th to host SNL, five grand. Wow. You know, you know, Tim Chalely got paid last week, five grand. Now, I don't know how long I just pulled that off, but it is a thing. All right. So, you know. How much you can pay to be on Sesame Street?

Yeah. I mean, five bucks. How much do you think, you know, Harry Belafon, they got paid 30 years ago. Five bucks. Wait, Bill, did I get paid for Sesame Street at all? Exactly. Exactly.

Probably not. I did, yeah, I did an offshoot. I did, you know, Elmo up all night. I mean, that's late night. That's late night money. That's 350. Is that your show, too, Bill? Yeah.

Jason did Elmo's late. night talk show and it was fucking hilarious. Yo, that's hilarious. It was great. It was great. Yeah, Living and I both did it. No, it was, it was, that was, it was awesome. It was a joy.

What I was saying, like you, was that when you're, when you're crossing that bridge where you're not just under your, you're, the tutelage of your mom and dad anymore and you got to be your own person. That part, yeah. That's the transition between 19 and 23. Yeah, that part, yeah. What I see for her son, I believe in my heart that her. son um and this is crazy pressure to put on him i feel like him as an artist like he's he's to me

like he could be the next bosquiat and in terms of like the art community has like the same way that i had a circle with like dilla and erika and you know like the whole black lily collective and all that stuff he has an art community that and i almost feel kind of guilty giving my unsolicited capitalist you know snake oil salesman advice like wait if you guys all gather together this this a billion dollar

art art community right I'll be the person to end their community like right now it's just very pure and very for art's sake so yeah let them fucking up on the all yeah right it'll stick more if they put it up on their own exactly had it's been so much more

Sam Sonoma, don't do it. Yeah. You teach a kid to fuck up, you know, but if you allow a kid to fuck up, he'll fuck up forever. You know, it's like, yeah, it's like that. Give a man a fish. Yeah. Fuck up a man's fish, you know, that's one thing. Fuck of a man's river, you know, like, you know.

That is. Okay, so I'll go to entertainment. For those of you that indulged in television. Okay, what's the TV show that you are ashamed to admit that you indulged and watched? Like I said, I was going to watch a whole bunch of Criterion Collections education movies. And then the same opposite. Ain't got time for all that got them learning. Exactly.

No, we ain't here for that. Subtitles, no. I'm not here. Yeah. I was on 90-day fiancé pretty heavy. And then I just got on there. Yeah. I was on 90-day fiancé.

The other way. The other way? Yeah. Child. That's some good stuff. That shit is a mess. Wait, what's the other way? The other way is when they, oh, Amir, the other way is when the American goes to the other

country. So you got like them going to Ethiopia and all. So, yeah. There's the American version of the Russian mail order bride that I hear about in every sitcom. A hundred percent. It is the, bro, it was this white woman that was going to marry this dude from Qatar. man listen like there is no punchline what are you saying

like bro you already know man look yeah so I know what Americans have been sold about the Russian male order bride like you know and I guess we sort of see the first lady is that somewhat but what I'm saying is oh no not somewhat what is how how how is the American sold

as a prize to other countries what you mean? Man, I don't, I think it's just, I don't know if there's a surprise. I think it's just, I think in the Qatar with the lady that was going to Qatar, I think it was just, they were looking at it. The guy was looking at it like, well, I can basically use you. I mean, it was, I mean, it's all like kind of a scam, really. They all, like, trying to just use each other for money or for citizenship or something.

But it's just, it's all, like, dysfunctional and hilarious as hell. But that's kind of, that's what the sell is. It's a lot of other franchises that branched off because you got the house of Shantel and stuff now. Because Chantel had married the Dominican dude and now they live. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Chantelle is a black girl that's real pretty. Her whole family is kind of good looking until they're getting their own show. It's a lot going on.

Sorry, I watched a lot of TV. So 90 days, you know, about this, you know. Yeah, and, yeah, my mom watches this. So if I visit, she always has it on, but that's all I know. It's education. But the story's always like some greasy looking guy and, you know. Yes. like how long

do they stay with the storyline until it ends or man they stay with it like well I think this year and I think this is kind of why I got out of it because COVID shut a lot of shit down so what ended up happening is like they you could tell

they basically they were stretching the dope too far you know what I mean so like they didn't really have a whole lot of content I'm like y'all couldn't too thin because y'all coming back y'all ain't got but about them 15 minutes 20 minutes worth of damn content stretched out over a fucking hour. And it just, it was bad.

So that's why I got out of it. But they'll follow people. I mean, if they get spin-offs and stuff. And basically the more dysfunctional, the better, like, as all reality shows, the chick Darcy, who has a twin sister. They have a show now called Darcy and Stacey, which I just, I have not watched. I forgot about that. She won't. She goes with the big duck lips.

Bro, you, yo, they show the commercial like every, yeah, every, every, every, every, every, every, Discovery, you'll watch it. P.S. Can I just say one word and I would just like to know because people are in the closet about this show but I think all of y'all watch this show. What is it? Cheaters. I haven't watched Cheaters.

Wait, is Cheaters still a thing in 2020? Peter Guns is going to be hosting it in 2020. Oh, I thought y'all was, all right. I was talking about. I remember Cheaters back in like the 90s. Yeah, that's the last time I watched it. On the weekends. Wait, Peter Guns, New York got crazy games.

Vita polygamy guns Now hope you Never mind I thought we had a tribe And I'm sorry I thought Wait has it been on the air Yeah yeah Peters

Peters has it But old episodes of cheaters Because you know It had different holes And the last host Who was the grandson of Clark Gable You know

He died this year in 2020 Yeah I know Yeah Clark He was Clark Not Joey Greco After Joey Greco Was Clark Gable's

Okay grandson, yes. I did not know this information at all. I have no idea what you're talking about. Cheaters. I remember cheaters, but like, yeah, and when I was at Central, Nick, I didn't watch that forever. Was cheaters like an ambush show, like where you would catch people there to?

No, well, it wasn't necessarily an ambush show. It was a show where people came to the host to find out if their loved one was cheating, and then they had detectives, and that detective would actually go. And then, yeah, then you would ambush once they found out the, Yeah, there we go. Okay, all right. That's what, yeah. An ambush was forthcoming. Ambush.

Third act ambush. I got it. All right. Amir says we're embarrassed about, and now I'm back to being embarrassed. I'm never mind. Too hot to handle. Netflix.

Too hot anyway. Man, I tried to watch that, man. I couldn't. I couldn't get into it. So the premise of too hot to handle on Netflix is you put, you know, 20 beautiful people on an island. And you're like, if you win. And they can't have sex.

And they can't have sex. They can't touch each other. They can't do anything. If they do, like, the money starts to go down. And so, like, they all try to, like, sneak off fucking and, like, you know, crazy under the cover shit. And they get caught every time. And there's like a, there's like an announcer robot. And it's a whole price to pay.

I'm so putting this on my list. Like, if you fuck, it's 20 grand. If you fuck, it's 20 grand. If you, if you kiss, if you make out someone, it's like five grand. Yeah, like, if you hold hands. They start with, like, 250 grand. And at the end, they're down like, five grand. Right.

If you have a meaningful conversation. And they're like, here's 200 bucks. I would show up on that show and just like, just masturbate like crazy and just leave there just flush. Oh, you're not allowed to do that either. You can't masturbate? You can't do that either. No, no, no, no, no.

You can't do anything. And then this is what they do. Watch me. No, I mean, right now. Watch watch. Watch me. That's the commercial right there for this show. Joe.

Tubin. Oh, tubin. Too bit. Too bin. Two. Two men. Too man. Wait a minute.

So the thing is, is that Jason, what they do is they even turn the heat up more. Like, if you seem to be mastering, nice choice of words, Amir, the game too much, then they start important in even hotter people. That's right. They try to see you. They're like, you don't want to fuck that? Like, I'm fucking this. And it's like, okay. And their goal is to literally bring people on to seduce you.

Yeah. So it's like, like, it's the best way to lose a game. It's like going to Russia on business. Like, they're going to twiddle your knob. They're going to dial him. They're going to calibrate. It's like, real boobs and fake boobs. There's no ambush.

It's all fake boobs all the time. There had nothing real on that show whatsoever. Like, no. No. You know, another show that, like, I watched that was, I didn't, I wouldn't say I felt ashamed about it, but it was. Please say it's like I feel good about, you know, say I can feel good about myself. Cobra Cye, doc. Is it good?

Cobra Coy, dog. Is it good? Nigger. Cobra Caj is lit, Cubs. Cobra Caj is great. Yeah, Cobra Cies. Just old nigg is getting active because I'm here for it. The niggas is 60.

It's on my list because Rob Moshel still looks great. Yeah. Yeah. And you, and you know, if you know the original, you know, the original crowdy kid. Yeah, well, yeah, good. I mean, the way they start that show is so great. Like, when it jumps to, like, that other angle, like, that you normally, you know,

I was just like, oh, it, like, my brain fried a little bit. I thought it was, I watched it was on YouTube. Is it like Wicked where you see from his point of view? Yeah, so it's like, yeah. You see it from Johnny Lawrence from his, you know, what he becomes. Oh, man. Wow. Like, that joint is real.

That's a great show. Like, I did not expect to enjoy it as much as I did. And season three comes back to January. A reboot can be good. I can't think of any other ones, but that's good. Look, I know everybody liked it, you know, but, but like, we, I mean, I just don't watch too much, you know, junk. Liv was watching some early on, but I can't remember, but I usually, you know, wasn't, wasn't into it just, but Tiger King, you know, like, Tiger King, you know, was great, but like, but also like at the same time, you're like, why am I, why am I fucking watching this dude? Like, and I'm watching her and I'm just like, you know what, this?

Why am I giving him this energy? Yes, that's how I. I gave up after the third episode. I couldn't take that. Man, I, man, I was in for the long haul. Then he started singing his jam. When Joe, when Joe Exha started dropping records, man, come on. Telling all the hunters to put down their guns.

He started singing, he's right. He didn't even sing him. He's a tiger. Understand. So does he have a chance with Kim Kardashian arguing on his behalf? No, he's white. He's white. He's white.

Right. But he did say to her, you know, you don't have to tell anybody that you help me. Did he murder this woman? No, no. The big question is like, we don't know if he murdered her. She's alive. She murdered her. She murdered her.

That's right. That's the big. Well, wait, what's he in jail for? For attempting to get her. Yeah. Oh, okay. So he's definitely guilty of attempted murder. Yeah.

of arranging her murder. He didn't even try to do it and say, try to pay somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see. I see. Yeah, Venmo. He'd be dead somebody. He's a good murder, you know.

Very backwards folks of $1,700. Baskin. Carol Foyne. Which got her on dancing with the stars. Yeah, no. Yeah, she's on dancing with the slurs now. She was. She was.

Yeah. Yeah. The best character in that show is Doc, whatever his name is in North Carolina. that guy like the four wives talk about polygamy like that guy

with his wives and his tigers and the fucking ponytail and his tigers and his breeding and all that they ran up they ran up in

they ran up in this shit though they shut this shit now yeah yeah yeah cult leaders had a real

comeback in 2020 cult leaders yeah yeah the nexium did you watch that shit the

the vow and oh they showed up the vows whatever the vow was yeah that was cool the one

it's seduced is seduced on Showtime. That shit is all smoke. It's only four episodes. It's like four hours. That shit is all smoke. Oh, my God. I just watched the Epstein thing. That's enough for me. So that was good. I watched Epstein one too. That was good. That was good. That was good. Disturbing. There's more there. There's more there. So much. Oh, we, Steve. Like, yeah.

And I see your girl. The other day, she posted. 30 million. They're trying to post a 30 million. I'm like, dude. I'm no legal expert, but she's about to go. I'm thinking anyone that could post 30, billion dollars you probably shouldn't let them post bail i mean i'm just i mean that's probably not the best idea no that's like come on and that's what is that a 10% of her like right is 30 million oh shit is it 10% of her bond wow 300 no is that bond bond is 10% of like your bail it's like i don't know that's your bond hey guys i just did you guys know i just heard this today and it's going to change life as we know or forever did you know did you hear about the big porn hub news you know i

about this. Did you hear about what happened at porn? No, what happened? What did they do? They took like 80% of their content down. They've taken everything and I didn't know until after I went this morning for my thing, you know, for my session. And no more movie scenes, no more like,

there's nothing. It's just ugly people. And I'm not even trying to be funny. People that have contracts with Porn Hub can retain their it is so. I think, sex work. Sex work is changing. Actually, I think that's a good thing.

It is a good thing. I mean, I know it is, and I'm not sounding. Power to the artist. Power to the artist. Power to the artist. Power to the art.

People, power to the porn artist. But where else will I find my favorite movie sexy? Right up here. Yeah. No, not here, Jason. Not here.

There's red tube. There's X videos. There's more for you. Trust me. They're coming for everybody. Their end of the year thing is always fascinating. When they tell you, like,

like the most Googled, you know, the key word for different states or different kinds. Like, I'm all fascinating. Fascinating. They're not doing that this year. I wonder who won this year. Yeah, you're actually, yeah.

They did release a Christmas album, though. Poeh-Hop released a Christmas album? Yeah, they got a new album out with like select like ASAP and some people. I don't, I feel bad that I'm the way to deliver in this news. I'm sorry. Jingle balls. You're right. You know,

you know, hip-hop and porn hub or like Santa Claus coming all. over the time. Yes, Jason. Yes, Jason. You know, Dick the halls. You get easier.

All the classics. I saw Mommy kissing that in Santa Claus. You know, that one just straight. Yeah. The hits continue. Kissing on his dick, though. That's what that's the truth. That's the, Jason's the deck as I love.

Steve, I know Cobra Calf was your jam this year, so your fire got stolen. That's, well, might have been the best thing I saw a year, I guess. Wow. Hey, be cool, Steve. One of the, you know, we have a TV show out too. You know, my friends. So just be cool, man.

Yeah, that's where I want to come in. Guilty pleasure. So we're now talking about shows we love, like that are great. Yes, yes, I'm transitioning. I'm transitioning, yes. Transition. I liked the crown. Good for you.

Is this here good? I hear a lot of people talking about this. They're all good. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This bitch Camilla is gangster. Go ahead.

I'm sorry. I like Queens Gambit. I love Queens Gambit. I still got to check that. I heard it's good. I love Queens Gambit. It's the white girl version of, I can hear Fonte right now saying that this is the,

what was, what was fresh? Yeah, it's the white girl version of Fresh. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Okay. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. It's a chess movie, a chess series. But it's rather engaging and charming.

And I can't believe nobody's brought it up yet, but I watched that Hugh Grant joint. Oh, but the undoing. The undoing is, yes. Man, I still, I got a peek. Yes. Yes. Is it good? Yes.

Yes. So, two five are fantastic. Episode six. Anything else, Steve? uh, porn hub and before they took the, the,

uh, the, uh, 80% of the content away. Yeah. And, uh, I have my own network on social media on

Instagram, so I'm usually watching that. I don't, the show of the network. He only got time for that. Okay. I don't watch a lot of the crap. You guys were talking about.

Um, I fell into selling sunset. Oh. Which. Why? Okay. Uh,

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is I really, really loved Ted Lassow. And I almost feel like we would have to, I'd have to share like our text history as I was watching it more. Because you could feel me getting, I felt like you manipulated us, Jason. Absolutely. I feel like you manipulated us.

All right. So this is, the last time I heard this, this even brought up in this way was with Spike Lee and Annabella Shewell. and Jungle Fever in which Spike accused Annabella of like really changing the character

to be more likable than he wanted her to be. And I felt like, okay, you're trying to show me from the pilot, I was like, okay, I'm not going to like this guy. It's going to be like Michael Scott on the office. I get what I'm about to watch.

And it's totally not that. Like how did you even sell this concept to even work? Yeah, I mean, we had the commercials that the characters is based on that did well, like in 2013, 2014, we're trying to sell the English Premier League showing up on NBC sports, and it was all about a way to get American football fans into British football, soccer. And so it had like a little bit of, like, you know, heat with that.

But the character was totally different with the whole style and the ethos and the philosophy of the show was going to be a little bit more lived in. and you know almost like a we always sort of use like you know like nora effron or or um ron sheldon you know who did you know bull durham and tin cup and he got game not he got game too but white man can't jump you know uh you know and blue chips you know he did all those movies ron sheldon and so i just was like oh it's going to be it's a little bit more lived in it's it's more sincere and it was tough though i mean i think they bought it thinking it was going to be what you thought it was going to be and then as it as the scripts started to come in

And then as the, you know, daily started to come in and, you know, we just kept bumping it into what it was supposed to be versus what people thought it was going to be. But 100% aware of the fact of what people thought it was going to be. And so, yeah, through our text history, I mean, I gave you all like the, I'll give you the, you know, the criterion collection, like audio commentary of like, yeah, here's what we're doing. And because I think that's one of the neat things. You know, well, I mean, because the whole concept where it came up in 2015, you know, pre-Farguson, pre-Trump coming down the thing. pre times up or you know like hope and empathy never goes out of style and it probably would have benefited then because the same vibe and i think i bet am here part of the same vibe that you might not even be aware of that you loved about detroiters is is crossing through this it's about you know it's about

sort of seeing the best in people and you know and that was all about tim and sam seeing the best in detroit you know and i'm just doing like the you know eight mile or like you know you know burnt out you know christler you know factories it was like yeah the captain obvious right yeah And so like, and so we, we did that with this, but using years of exposition of sports films to, you know, to our benefit that we could twist things and flesh them out. And then you and then a lot of the last 10 years of like, you know, you know, white dude anti-heroes, both, you know, like whether it's Don Draper or Walt White or Tony Soprano. Tony Soprano. I mean, Michael Scott, David Brent, you know, and just sort of like flip it on its ear and just come at it, you know, like sincere. And let people just as soon. Like, did you watch that, that, um, the documentary about Mr. Rogers?

You know, you know, won't you be my neighbor? Like if you watch that like in modern, even if you watch it now, you will watch, it's two hours long. You will be waiting. You're going to be like, okay, when does he touch a kid? Like we're just like condition. We're so cynical that something going to have. Hey, here it comes. He's going to cheat on his wife.

All right. And like nothing. And he's just pure. And it's just like, yeah. And so Ted is just like this. He's not. perfect by any means, but he's, you know, this eagle-less thing that people put their shit on. And we did that as viewers and we all, you know, we're, we're messing with it.

It was a unicorn to me because I'm like, really like this guy knows how to up rock like a B-boy and quote, fight from a trap called Quest. I broke that all down to you. All right. I'm going to get this whole free trial of Apple TV, Jason. I got to get it now. There you go. I y'all make me a way.

Come here, go back and listen to this whole podcast. Yes. You know what I mean? Like when you were like at the unicorn, I was like, I was like, yeah. No, it's, that's my. I'm telling. Yes, like. The fact that you had low expectations or whatever, it's like.

Oh, I didn't have no low expectations. I just wasn't ready for another streaming service. I wasn't ready for Apple TV. No, expectations. It's not having any expectations. It's about. And I thought with Jason. So I follow you pretty much where you go anyway.

and I know it's going to be good and funny, but now that y'all broke it down, I'm like, all right. Oh, but it's like, it's a whole vibe, and the cast is incredible. Like, we got so many good people and, like, the writer's staff, and everybody just gave it damn. Like, it's, it's a really neat thing, and it's something really fun to be a part of, much less, you know,

like Ted Les, it's a show. It's a character, yes, but it's mostly a vibe. And, like, when you watch it, you're kind of like, oh, yeah, yeah, this is, this is specific. Jason, I'm on it. Yeah. Okay, since you quasi I mentioned it,

I'm also one of these people that gets emotionally attached to a series and if the series ends prematurely before it's time, I will slow down. Like, I still haven't finished the last four episodes of Detroiters yet because I know it's, that's it. Is there any way

possible another network another or the guys are just like we tried no golly I I guarantee I mean I can't speak for them but but I mean that thing deserved a third season that thing deserves like they

never loved so so much man they they're so Tim and Sam are so special as like individual performers and then their chemistry together and they're you know they're really that they're like that in real life you know and we and Joe Kelly, who was one of the, you know, producers and writers on Ted Lassow and one of the original

creators of the commercials with me, that, um, and Zach Cannon, you know, like they, they were, they were finding their group. They were finding their group with that show. And, you know, it was a bummer. It was a real bummer. Uh, but I'm glad that those two seasons exist at least, but I don't, I don't blame you for taking your time with it because it's, it's, it stinks. We tried. We tried, you know, all sorts of ways, you know, and Ken Alterman, who was in charge of Comedy Central the time was really big fan of it too and you know it's tough it's tough you know

I think it would have found its audience in that third season because it just you know right yeah I was going to say if anybody out there that needs new content of like anything they overlooked or they're like okay what else is left to watch that's a great one it's like for me

I'm still amazed there's one particular episode that is such Detroit inside speak that's what I knew I had to pay attention. Many people don't know is that Stevie wonders my eyes don't cry.

That is a step in. That's a ballroom jam. It smells like teen spirit to Detroit. Like I played before I let go at a black Detroit function once. And it was like a middle

sort of like a response. And the guy ran up to me and says, I know what you're searching for. Play my eyes don't cry by Stevie Wonder. I was like, that's all? Get the fuck out of here. I'm playing superstition. And I let the, by the end of the night,

he says, I'm going to tell you, I would never steal you wrong. Find a way to get into Stevie Wonder's, my eyes don't cry and see what happens. And I put it on. Dude, even the garbage men outside ran in to start doing line stepping. I'd never seen such like chaos

over a song that I, I was like, why this song was not a hit, was not like, yeah. Is it even a jam? But the fact that they managed to play this seven times on that show, knowing what I know about song clearance and whatever, I can only imagine the love letter that somebody had to give to the Stevie Wonder Estate to be like, this is an inside joke. We're going to play the song seven times.

I don't even know. Yeah. I don't know how we got it. That's the first question I asked Stevie Wonder when asking for permission, permission for clearance for my own project. I was like, forget all that. How did you clear that song for Detroiters seven times? Like, that's how much I love it.

So I'm just saying that. Yeah. That's how much I love that show. The most, yeah, I mean, the fellow directed Parasite, you know, when I was watching that, you know, the Oscars that he said that Scorsese didn't score. I forget how you say his name. actually didn't see Parasite yet, but like, I know, I know.

I just, because I've been editing. I've been like, okay, okay. I've been just thinking of, you know, fake world the whole time, not having the chance to dick around and others. Was Parasite 2020 or was it 2019? 2019, but it won the 20 in 2020. But when he said, you know,

the most personal is that, you know, the most personal is the most, what do you say that Scorsese said? Like, the most personal is the most original. Oh, okay. No, I think it's like, most personal is the most original. And it might be, I should look it up.

I apologize. All I know is that phrase reminded, reminded me of what we were trying to do with Ted Lassow, but in the same way that I loved how specific, you know, we call them two percenter jokes on Ted Lassar where it's like, we know that the reason we got to do the show is because the soccer community embraced those early commercials. And so we put little jokes in there that are only for the, you know, the like the big soccer football fans. And Tim and Sam and Joe and Zach did that with Detroiters all the time for Detroit specifically.

And it was just, yeah, it's just love. It's just love for what they're doing and no judgment. And that comes across. And then you feel like you're in on the joke. Even if you don't get the joke, you feel like you're in on the joke. You know, like that's one of the things that we talked about, like, with the Alan Iverson speech and the Ted Lassow thing, was like, if you get the joke, that's the reference, that's great.

But if you don't, it still plays. And they used to say about Monty Python all the time. It's like, yeah, if you know, King Arthur history and, like, you know, folklore, then, yeah, Holy Grail works on. those levels. Otherwise, it's just really good jokes. You know,

it's like, you know, and Detroiters, yeah, was a definite version of that. Ted does a, a brilliant reference to practice. Oh,

he's talking about practice. You're talking about practice? Exactly. Not a game. Not a game. For practice. Come on, man. Not practice.

Yes. He does it. It's brilliant. So did you guys lose friends or did you gain friends in 2020? Oh. I didn't lose friends. I don't think I lost anyone. I think it just, again, this was, to me,

2020 was just a year of revelation. And I think this was just the year I didn't lose friends, but I really realized the importance of my friends. And I really saw, like, who was really down for you. You know what I'm saying? Like, and, you know, and I think for a lot of people, a big thing for me was just looking at your life and realizing that if you have people in your life that can't serve you now at a point in time

where things are at this most uncertain, you're at your most vulnerable, you know, you're at your, you know, your most just kind of crazy, if you have people in your life that can't serve you in this time, then they never served you at all. You know what I'm saying? Like if you can't, you know I'm saying, if the people in your life ain't showing up for you right now, then it's like, well, what did I ever need you for? You know what I mean? And so that was a big thing for me. Just, you know, I don't think I lost nobody, but the ones that, you know,

was really being my day ones, like they really showed up for me in real, real ways. And, you know, we showed up each other in real ways. And it just strengthened that bond even more. Okay. Anyone else? That is so perfect. Oh, yeah.

I mean, I wish I had that. No, I feel like I gained friends a little bit like when you, like, when you look through the drawer, that has t-shirts you haven't worn in a while. And you're kind of like, oh, right, I love this shirt. Or you look through the back of the closet. Like a little bit like that where you, you know, you know, revisited friends that maybe I, you know, forgotten.

But again, I think it was more about losing, going to my own, going to my cave and then coming out like a little bit, like, bleary-eyed and then realizing, oh, here we are. And, you know, allowing people to see me again versus maybe, you know, they were maybe there the whole time. So I think it was a little bit of almost the inverse of what you were just speaking about. Do you think with this year and with COVID and everything, do you think that played a role in you and Olivia choosing to split?

Or was that something that was kind of coming anyway, you think? No, I think that had a lot. I think I had a lot to do it. I think, you know, I mean, you know, I, we'll see. We'll see, you know, life is long. I, you know, I feel like all sorts of stuff would still happen, you know. We live in longer and longer every day. That's true.

That's true. Always time to start new chapters and new errors. Yeah, and when you have, when you have children, there's that, you know, we're going to be, you know, we're going to share grandkids. Oh, yeah. We're assuming our kids fuck. Yeah. Thank you, Jason. Bad boy from like, we ain't going nowhere.

So we'll, you know, we'll see. know, but we'll see. Bill. Liz, you know. I don't know. It's a real hard thing to pass the ball with Bill. Jesus.

Have I lost to gain any friend? I don't know. Status quo, I think. I live on, like, my own island and do my own shit. I think Jesus, it's right. When you have kids, like, your life is different. It's not, I don't know. My life is about my kids pretty much all the time, all the time.

So they're still my friends, I think. I hope. Sugar Steve? I'm always making new friends. People really love me. This is true. That is true. That is true.

I was saying you're shaking that works rolling, rolling tight. Yeah. Like a Maypole. You're just slow and steady and people can just like wrap their love around you. You're just like, boom. You know, the masthead. I haven't been dealing with a loss of friends, but I will say I miss, I miss touch. And for me,

It's been real deep. Like, even when I was talking to y'all, I was like, not for nothing. I miss, like, coming into a studio and hugging all of y'all and pushing Steve away. And, like, I just, I mean, it sounds so simple. Don't say that with that red light on, Questlove. Don't do that. I'm trying to go, wow, wow. But how about you?

It's true. I went months without, without eye contact. I missed eye contact. We were doing, writing our whole second season, like, in a Zoom room. And then I remember getting a pair of headphones from my buddy Brendan, who plays Coach Beard as like a gift, you know, so that, you know, for playing FIFA together. And he drove by and I was just joking around and I'm going to throw it in the car, you know, like that guy and still wrap some plastic. And just seeing him in person, I was like, hey, he was like, right. You got emotional.

You're real. Three dimensions. I was like, are you kidding? Yeah. I was like, I totally forgot about that. Like, by, you know, August. You know, you're just like, they didn't even register anymore. Yeah, you don't realize you have not been touched by like,

I've been touched by like one, two people. Don't happen like that. Hey, Jason, can I ask a question? Did you know Hal Wilner over at SNL? Yeah, very, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, he's the closest, you know, the person that I know that has, you know, died from COVID. Yeah, I mean, one of my favorite stories about how, you know,

my first year at SNL was 2003 and I was a writer. and in between dress and air, you know, all 50 of us, you know, all the cast members and all the writers are all packed into Lauren's room and people are sitting on the floor and they're sitting all over the place. And I'd seen that, Hal, like walking around and I knew, you know, he has a very conspicuous look. He's one of those guys that looked like, you know, their Muppet would look identical to them, you know? And he was sitting Indian style or cross-legged.

I'm sorry, I don't think that's what you're supposed to say now. And I was sitting on the floor too. And he was just rocking back and forth. just like this, just rocking back and forth. And I was just kind of like looking at him. And I knew he had been around the show for, you know, since, you know, earlier, early on. And he just kind of looks up me, like, like the camera here is my eyes.

He's just rocking back and forth. And he just looks at me and goes, I remember when this whole room was filled with pot smoke. And he went right back to rocking. It was like, it was like, it was like, Laslo from real genius. It was just this story. And then we just hit it off from that. What a reference.

What a, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, he just had all these stories and he just really took a shine to me. He, you know, I know, other people in my generation like Mullaney were even closer to him or like Fred, obviously, they could, you know, go hours talking about music and deep cuts and stuff. But he was always encouraging me to like watch weird stuff. You know, he wanted me to host like a Playboy After Dark kind of series with them. You know, he'd always ask me to do like side gigs that he was doing at Town Hall, you know, like Lou Reed stuff. And he just, he was really, really amazing.

And that one hit, that one hit me hard because I was like, that's, that's the closest I've had. And I, so I can't, I can't remember when I saw him last. I mean, it might have been actually in like the beginning of the year, beginning, like, February, whenever I last played Biden. Yeah, how, how was our, our guy at a 30 rock man? He'd always have some trivia I didn't know about, about music. Yes. I'm just now discovering the second time that we played SNL was because of how we did a project with Tuts and the Maytow's and I don't realize that how was the one that organized like how was the label and and the one that put it all together. I didn't know who he was back in 2003 when we did it.

Oh wait. Do you guys played with Toots? Yeah, we did, we did SNL twice. I forgot about that. Yeah, we did. I forgot about it. I was there was that show. Yeah.

And then the, yeah, the, when Tits and the May Talas was on the show. Yeah, that was my first season, yeah. Oh, wow. We, we were as well. I don't think I realized that. Yeah, man. So, you know, what, well, okay, that leads to, what celebrity death hit you the hardest this year? I think for me.

Black Panther. Chadwick. Oh, God. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Because that one for me, that just came out of nowhere.

I was like, what? Like, what? Yeah. Because no one knew he was sick, so that was, and it was crazy. So, it was a buddy of mine was his producing partner, my homie, my homie Logan, Logan Coles, and who, wow, to really bring four circle, me and him hung out together at the block party, at the Deshafell Block Party. Really? Yeah. And so Logan, he just, it was, it was the crazy shit.

I've known Logan since this guy, this probably since like 04 so this is probably like 16 years I've known this guy and Logan would always tell me he'd be like yeah so you know I'm working man and you know me and my producing partner Chad

me and my homie Chad we doing this and me and my homie Chad and he would just always just mention his homie Chad and so it wasn't until I think like last year I think it was last year for last he had he did a movie called 21 Bridges

it was like he played this cop it was just like this cop joint and it was actually pretty good but Logan was on Twitter he was like, yeah, you know, I'm producing this movie. You know, he was big in up the movie. And I hit him, I was like, hold up, dude. You mean to tell me all these fucking years,

the homie Chad you been talking about is fucking Chad with Bozeman? He was like, yeah, I said, holy shit. I didn't even know. And so, I went and saw it and I hit him. I hit Logan, like, he was the first one I hit when I got the news. And I just checked. I was like, bro, you good? Like, how you are?

And he was just, like, devastated. And he said, man, you know, he said, crazy he said because you know the next time you was in la i wanted to link y'all look because he was he fucked with your music i was like were he's like yeah man you carolina like he's like you know he was south carolina you know you north carolina he's like man yeah he fucked with little brother all that shit he said he wanted to fuck with you i was like damn i had no idea but um but that was super that was just super sad for me like that it was just a sour note on top of an already sour year yeah cobi yeah covey definitely that feels like it was

two years ago. Right. Exactly. Like it happened before March? I'm trying to remember who happened when because I still feel like I didn't even give Ali her goodbyes and she was like a guest on our show.

Yeah, for real. When did Ali Willis pass away? I guess maybe that was the end of 2019. Okay. Yeah, it wasn't during okay. You know, it wasn't during COVID, but we lost

the folks. I lost an aunt from this thing. Really? Mm-hmm. Wow. Yeah, for me, I think, like Bill Withers. Oh, yeah. Passing, like, I always dreamed of getting him on the show. Yeah, yeah. He was one of my booking this people, too. Yeah. Yeah. And so that kind of threw me for a loop. Oh, what?

What? Nothing just got sad. It was like, oh. Yeah, Ali died last year. She got 2019 on Christmas Eve. Whoa, okay. As it was like right before. Right around that time. Steve? Herman King. Good answer. I think that's a good answer.

Well, he's still tweeting now, so you can holl at him. For real. Oh, yeah, they still, they still tweet. Herman Kane. Oh, you didn't know that? Oh, you don't be on Twitter like that. Oh, now, Herman Kane, the cane trains, they're rolling, baby. What?

Still giving talking points, even despite. How he died? Steele on Twitter, Doc. Still. Oh, God. Why? Yeah, I was, for the answer for me is how. And I would encourage our listeners to check out all of his amazing albums that he put out over the years,

tribute albums to everybody from, from Monk to the most recent one, which was tribute to T-Rex. So that came out right after he passed away. So streaming or stuff. I mean, you guys are giving ads. for ice cream. I can house right. Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. Anybody interrupt you? Yeah, ain't nobody saying nothing. All right. Shoot, show shot.

Thanks. Oh, then, you know, download them. What's yours, Bill? People who died

the best way? Yeah, which one hit you, rocked you a little bit hard. Dave Van Halen, Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Yeah. Wow.

Damn. Oh, I was just going to say, I remember making a mix tape of just Eddie Van Halen's guitar solo. Just only the solos, like one after another. And I would, you know, ride my bike to go play basketball,

you know, this place called the athletic club and just be just furious. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're ready to rock. Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. Just, you know, eruption over and over. Yeah. To be, okay, I was going to ask, what was the most 2020 thing ever?

Probably for me, the disappointment of the amount of, the amount of peers that I have in this industry how they disappointed me politically just one by one mega man

I wasn't I wasn't ready for that at all how about how you got Karen the first day you moved into your mansion that story that's it's a farm sorry you know what we actually I'm straightening it out here's a Here's the deal, though.

The deal is I am the, I'm the youngest person up there. The average neighbor is somewhere between like 70 and 90. Shit. So I would say that maybe that particular person, like we definitely had the conversation. It was a misunderstanding. He was like, no, no, I knew I was welcoming you. But, you know, I was just still a little alarm that just walked into my crib. Like, so you on this place?

You know, maybe he could have chosen a better opening sentence. than that, but, you know, just based on what I was walking into, I wasn't expecting. You should have done that to his house and see how I played over. That I wouldn't be here, would I? Exactly, yeah. We'd be, yeah.

So, sir, I see you own this place? Wow, wow, wow. And we're now back on Laia Supreme. Yeah. Sorry. Wow. That's dark. That one's dirt right there.

Yeah, I'll say that, yeah, they're just, you know, and I know black people aren't supposed to throw each other under the bus and on stuff publicly. Like, we don't do that shit, but, man, when I saw someone give the C. Dolores Tucker was right post, that hit me kind of hard. See, Delores Tucker was right about, like, yeah, just like just the fuckery of, I mean, it's somewhere, somewhere between, you know, uh, black on black crime.

What about Chicago? One. Okay. Hoteap 101 and this like this so-called black contract thing and whatever, like, you know, I just. Oh. Ice cube. Cube.

Cube. Yeah. I mean, it's more than him. It's like practically every political hot take talking point is just ass backwards. And I know people. meant well, but, you know, now's the time to not be changing horses in the middle of the stream. It's okay. It'll all be forgotten in the mirror.

It's going to all be forgotten. Don't you think? You think so? No, man. I'm telling you, like, it's, I don't know. I mean, I have a list. So what was the most 2020 thing for you? What happened the other day that I saw?

And I was like, Did I put it in the group chat? Something happened. I feel like every day something happens that is the most 2020 thing ever. I have to look. I'm trying to think. I'm not going to be on my black shit,

but I do think the world discovering Juneteenth was a pretty 2020 moment. But that's just. That was pretty amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I had never heard of it in my life. I had no idea.

Because in my mind, I was like, so did everybody think that everybody was independent on 17, 70s? No, but Laia be straight up. Like, black people really weren't even celebrating 20 Juneteenth like that. I mean, there's a certain sect of black people. Yeah, dependent. Nationwide.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, you know. They knew about it, but they didn't know about it. You know what I mean? But you know how we are. Sometimes we got to see white people to acknowledge it first. And we'd be like, yeah, that's right. That is.

It's just, that's not, that's a truth that we'll talk about. Okay. Sorry, sorry. I see. Okay, I remember what it was. The most 2020 thing I saw was the advertisement for the Lifetime Original movie with Mario Lopez

as General Sanders as General Sanders Kentucky Fried Chicken. Jason, have you seen this, bro? Jason doesn't know about this. I don't know Jason been doing important things. How many times he got to tell you? He didn't do it. He's been editing.

He was editing. It's a lifetime. It's a lifetime. I want your life for you. I want your life for you. you don't have to go through this. Is it recent? Yeah.

This is old. Last weekend? I think it did. Wait, wait, wait, give me one second, y'all.

Give me one second. You remember how Will Ferrell and, and, like, Rachel. And what's her name? Did,

they did a real lifetime movie. Yes. And they did it ironically. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. This has to be the follow up to that.

And he's playing Carl Sanders? Mario. Mario Lopez is playing Colonel Sanders. Saved by the bell. Got them A.C. Slater. Yeah. He's playing Colonel motherfucking Sanders. How about how about it?

It's a love story with the whole nine with the, with the fucking. It's ridiculous. Yeah, the little string tie, everything. He's doing, he's not, he's not doing a Southern accent. He's like, I mean, he's basically talking like Mario Lopez. But, but they're, and it's a lifetime original movie or it says many, movie. I think it's on like 15 minutes long. Original recipe? Original recipe?

Man, they could have, man, they could have dropped in any movie? It's only like 15 minutes. So y'all, y'all do know the real story about this, right? It is. Yes, we know the real story. And I thought they were going to tell that story. Yeah. No, I mean, the real story that this is actually a Kentucky Fried Chicken commercial alternative

advertising that they're trying out. Like this is- I did not know this. Yeah, they did. Yeah, it aired the 13th. I missed it. It aired the 13th. But it's called a. Recipe for seduction.

I mean, that's great. Wait, okay. Now, now's the time for me to do slight confessional. So in Japan, their relationship with fried chicken is on another level. Christmas time, Christmas time in Japan is more akin to closer to Valentine's Day. So what happens is From December 25th to about New Year's Eve, like December 30th,

you and your loved one, you take a staycation in a sexy hotel And you bring with you for an after An after session snack Post-coitus. Yeah, post-coitus an 18-piece KFC dinner it's like a it's a it's a tradition like there are lines around the corner of every kfc in japan

around christmas time because you got to stock up on your bucket of chicken and you get your love hotel they got little love hotels for couples they don't know about papas though because no no this japan so they offered me so there was there was once uh discussion of putting me in that position as sort of the face of Uh-uh. No. I'm going to tell you what we're not about to do. Wait, liar, this was 2007. Do you think I did it? I know you didn't. Because that was after Mary. That's right.

But they, yeah, but they, yeah. Yeah. I got offered that. That's what we're not about to do. Wow. Both fucking chicken. That's a fucking chicken. Yeah. So that's my slight professor. Anyway, my last question, my last question. what's what's the silver lining of 2020 what's the silver line

Peter Gunn's host of Peters Really that's the silver lining clarity My answer is versus My answer is versus Ah okay Oh you mean silver lining that way

Okay well you know what I would say the civil line If we speak speaking on that On that type of time D nice Like D nice won 2020 He was the winner of 2020 Like to see him level up the way he had. And not for nothing,

D. Nice was the hero of 2020 and the last three months because sometimes they get a little repetitive. So was Night Wonder. I just got to say. Because the records, I'm just saying the records, sometimes they be the same record.

But I love you though. And you and big ups to him from going from a downtown apartment in Los Angeles to the Hollywood Hills with a pool, big up to you, D. Nice because music. Oh, he moved? Child? Oh, yeah.

Yes. You need to look at that back. Watch that background. Watch that background. Watch that background. Change. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. My man is in a different tax bracket with another comma. Wow. Okay. Yeah. He leveled up. All right. Steve, what was your silver lining of 2020?

Wow. Everything and everybody was revealed completely. Facts. And also the thing on Instagram with the new feature with the reals. Yeah, reals. Yeah, that's a... Do you like that? Yeah.

That's your thing. Okay. What? I made it. I can only imagine what your real's content looks like. Okay. Your favorite. Scroll down.

Okay. Okay. Bill, what was your silver lining of 2020? I don't know. I think that we're lucky enough to live in a profession, or whatever, the genre of... Industry. We can still get work done.

we can still get work done. You can still make shit. You can edit shit and I can write shit. Amir, you can make shit. Fonta, you can rap shit. And Steve. Laia, you can have three jobs. We can all still make shit.

We found our way out of the shit. And I, that's cool. And my hope is that we keep using it. I think just 2020 just reveal just how much of the customs we had were just fucking outdated and fucking pointless. You know what I mean? And like, you know, I think now, you know, taking a meeting, flying for a meeting?

man listen you know what I mean it's like dude they're so like I went to like bro one of my boys got married man listen y'all see me on the month's gonna see fonte in real life yeah we didn't see me no yo I went my man my man got married the other day um my homie got married uh Saturday and you know it was on Zoom and you know me my wife we sitting there at the table we watching it and it literally was probably like 20 minutes because all we watched was the vows you know what I mean man, I logged off. I was like, yo, I ain't got to go to another goddamn wedding in my life, because that shit

was great. We saw everybody. Like, the bride came to the camera and was like, hey, thank y'all for coming, guys. I appreciate it. You know, we put something in their little gift registry, whatever. And then my ass was back on the couch. That shit was great. I get that. I get that. I feel that way about press.

Really? About what? About press, you know, just like, you know, having to do junket interviews and just like, you know, being able to do talk show after talk show like in August and September and just doing it doing it like this. And that was, it was great to not have to leave the family and leave, you know, do all that. Much as we were joking about, you know, missing an airport. But for little things like that, you know, don't even wrong. I'd give me the writers room every time. I believe the outcome

of human being in the same space. I believe in that power and that magic, but like for, you know, for press. But for me, my, my, my, the silver lining, I think, is having my, have my heart broken open. That's real long. I think was keeping it, was it when you got it broken open? Was that when you realize it had been closed all this time? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Not all this time, but for a chunk of time. Prior to, yeah. You know, yeah. You know, and that sometimes is, I think that happens a lot with fear. You know, I know, I know, I know Radio Rahim would say it's love and hey, but it would all know that it's love and fear, you know. And, and yeah, and I think that that fear can come and get you. And so it's better to, you know, run right at it.

That's true. That is true. I can double. Wait, what's that M for? No, that was a good. I'm sorry. That was a good. That was a cosine.

No, that was a cosine. Oh, the cosine. That was a hyphen. Sometimes you do it like, listen up, Amir, you need this. And I was like, wait a minute, I'm listening. I also was sitting here thinking. that this is a silver lining too because at the end of the day, Zoom and FaceTime have been like a silver lining. I mean, this is what, as I talk to my parents and I, this is the longest in my whole entire lifetime that I've ever been apart away from them.

You know, every morning, we on the FaceTime. No, this is, it's like, it's been, it's been, it's been the craziest Black Mirror episode ever because what it did, like, you know what I'm saying? With, with Zoom and everything, essentially what is done is it changed? changes the way we process intimacy. So, you know, like things that used to look, that you would look at as trivial, like, if someone texted you, he's like, oh, that's a text, whatever. And in the Rona years, like, you're happy as hell to see a text. Oh, God.

Yeah. A FaceTime. It's like, holy shit, you know what I mean? Like, those things, they take on a deeper meaning. Yeah. Right. So do we assume that, quote, when this is all over, it just basically means when we don't have to wear masks anymore?

That's what it means. We can go on planes for vacation. And not when we don't have to wear a mask anymore, when folks feel comfortable not wearing a mask anymore, too, right? Yeah. You can pass a joint again. Y'all! Facts.

Facts. Wow. Facts. Wow. I never thought about that. Yeah. But you know, that ain't. Which is why I've been spending so much goddamn money, probably, too.

Because I ain't smoking other people's weed. You ain't spoken with other people? Right. You're in the right town now, for it. You know, you're in the right, you know. Am I, though? Oh, maybe not. You know what I'm saying?

No, that's a good point. No, you know. A block away. Am I? Yeah, they've turned up the prize support and demand. No, no, no. I wasn't saying that. I'm just saying that it's here.

And so it's here. And I'm waiting for this to be over so it could be here. Yeah. I know. Why didn't we just, yeah, had we known? We usually do. You know, we would. I just want to say that, you know, you know,

I think the moment we realized this was a real thing was during the Dawn Lewis episode where it was like, oh wow, our lives, like we realized at that moment that our lives were going to change because we kept getting text over like coworkers getting sick and all those things. And so, you know, to where we are now, you know, I'm glad that we are all physically healthy. Although I miss our group pictures. See, Jason. Right now, we'd be impressing you with our nice eye heart studio with the, the lights that click on with the music and stuff. And we'd be, you guys take a picture.

Right. But, you know, it's out the screen cap. It's all good. Yeah. Spring cap. But, however, yeah, you know, may we, may we have a healthier 2021 and a prosperous 2021. Bring no spirits up, Quest, love. We got a whole new president at office at the very least.

We got that. Come on now. Come on now. Yes, I'm not. I'm being sincere. All right. And I'm also being considered that someone's asleep in the other room. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, because she's about to be up at Deb Fai. Exactly. On a trampoline. But Jason, I thank you for joining our year-end review.

Oh, absolutely. Oh, man, and for I forget, dude, I just wanted to tell you, man, I told it before you leave. Bro, my favorite fucking role of yours, man. Shane from fucking eastbound and down? Dude. Bro, when I tell you, that is like every white dude I went to high school with. I bet, yeah.

Oh, my God. Like, you nailed that shit, bro. That shit was hilarious. We shot that in Myrtle Beach. That's, you know, that's like, you know, those dudes, no, I mean, those dudes, Danny and Jody Hill and David, you know, David Gordon Green. I wish I would have known that school existed. when I was, you know, between my 19 and 23,

because I would have gone to North Carolina School of the Arts if I knew I was going to, you know, find fucking guys like that. Because those are dudes that just are fun to play with in the, whatever sandbox they create. So, yeah, man, I'm just good dudes. So fun to play catch up with those dudes. I said, I love when Fonte turns into Chris Farley at the end of the episode. Hey, man, that was awesome.

That shit was awesome. Thank you. I own the DVD. Thank you. Yeah, I was going to say, Jason, yeah, when season two is upon us, or even your next project, we have to do a proper Jason Sudegas episode. Talk about the basketball star. Yeah. Yes.

No, all those things. But, yeah, we caught you at our year-end episode where we sort of neutralize our guest to be one of the, one of the crew. One of us. I'm flattered to get the harm. Alcohol is missing this year. So there's the most sober episode besides unpaid bill. This is the most sober episode that we've had. had so far. But anyway, but thank you for joining us.

Absolutely. Guys have a safe. Thank you for bringing us joy and last holiday. Yes. All right. So on behalf of Malia, Sugarstee, Fonte, Golo, I'm Pay Bill and Jason Sudecas. As Quartz Love, and we will see you next year for the next go-round of Quest Love Supreme. Thank you. Yo, what's up? This is Fonte. Make sure you keep up with us on Instagram at QLS. And let us to know what you think and who should be next to sit down with us. Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast. All right. Peace. What's Love Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio.

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