The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: Jenifer Lewis Part 1

Episode Date: August 24, 2022

Actress and author Jenifer Lewis gives Team Supreme jewels of wisdom from her life, career, and travels. Listen as this queen of multi-hyphenates commands our QLS stage. Questlove calls this a top-3 a...ll-time guest interview, and you'll hear why.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.
Starting point is 00:00:12 Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clivert Show on the I-Hard Radio app,
Starting point is 00:00:27 Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that Trust your girlfriends
Starting point is 00:01:31 Listen to the girlfriends Trust me babe On the Iheart radio app Apple Podcasts Or wherever you get your podcast I got you Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio
Starting point is 00:01:48 Put him right now for a moment In his room Give him a treat And put him in his room Little shit You got me by the nose Smusk-fucker Everybody else
Starting point is 00:02:05 scared of me. This nigga don't know. Niggas. Don't make no fucking attention me because he's so pretty. Motherfucker. I can't already tell where this episode's going. Nice.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Class having already. I'm not going to cuss. I'll be a good girl. No, no, please. Cursed. We're super real. That's what we're in for. Yeah, I'm pretty.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I'm playing them games. Okay. Let's get in it. Ladies and gentlemen of QSology, okay, based on that energy, people warn that this episode, just might top the Deezes and Mero episode as the most realest in Q. Most problematic.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And the most realest in QLS history. And I'm here for it. I'm manifesting it. Again, this is Quest Love Supreme. Your nerd paradise of sometimes awesome and occasionally useless information or eddimication. Our two brethren unpaid bill and sugar Steve are, I guess you can say they're holding down their, illustrious careers right now, so they won't be joining us.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So this is going to be a powwow with, hello, Laia, how you doing? You're in LALA right now. I was waiting for you to say with the blacks. Come on now. Fonte. What up? What up? What up? We're the OJs. We're a trio today.
Starting point is 00:03:25 We are. And oh, what a trio. With that said, ladies and gentlemen, I will say that our illustrious guest is indeed, Okay, so since the title is somewhat self-proclaimed, it was the title for her first memoir, which was the mother of black Hollywood, I would like to say that probably that title for her might be somewhat reductive because I feel that she's more than just the mother of black Hollywood, you know, for a woman or human of her stature. And I don't believe in numbers sometimes, especially when Lai is trying to remind me how.
Starting point is 00:04:05 old I am, but I will say that for over four decades, our guest has been going strong in ways that, you know, her contemporaries can't even compete with. And I will say that she is, she is conquered and taken every medium by storm. I'm going to, I had to write them all down. So let's go with it. U.B. Let's go. Musical in 1979, pre-Broadway Dream Girls, where she was the title of F.E. White. Bet Midler's background singers were called Harlets, right? I believe so. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:42 She was a harlot in Bet Midler's show. She's landed many a scene-stealing moment and practically every show that she's ever, be it TV or movies. Name them. Murphy Brown. Dream on. I love Dream one. That's one of my favorite shows.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Me too. And live in color. Rock hang with Ms. Cooper, a different world. She was on Helen on Freshments of Bel Air. Come on, she was Dean Davenport on a different world. Tina Turner's mom and what love got to do with it. Yo, she was even in friends. I didn't know that more than three black women.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Right. I didn't even know that black people were in friends. Lucky's mom in poetic justice. Yo, the way she tells him to shut the fuck up. And poetic justice is my favorite. That is my favorite use of shut the fuck up. I ever heard. Anyway, name it. Deb presidents. Girl six, the preacher's
Starting point is 00:05:37 wife, the temptations, castaway, strong medicine, Pixar's cars. She was Tony's mom and girlfriends her family reunion. Right. Peter Browns, Juana, man, Bass O'Raven, Boss illegal, Princess and the Frog, think like a man, Baggots claim, a gazillion animated voiceovers. Yo, she's
Starting point is 00:05:55 even Erica's mom in the On-N-On-N-On video. She's so... Wow. Yeah. Yes, and I'm wearing my bodew shirt right now as we speak. Yo, she was even in this unknown local syndicated production of some show called Blackish. You guys might have heard of it. She has written two very informative books on her life.
Starting point is 00:06:22 She's the reason why I believe in audiobooks before. I'm not saying I was one of those snobs that was like, you know, you know those people are like, Oh, the book is better. You know, you see the movie and they're like, oh, the book is better. And then there are people that book shamed me because I don't have a tangible thing to read. And they're like, well, you're not reading the book. You just listen to the audio. But no, during the pandemic, I've read like 70 books.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I'm more edumicated than I've ever been. Ladies and gentlemen, this introduction has been 10 minutes long. Please welcome. And we still haven't finished with her discography. Yeah, dude. Is this too much the name? Even Disney rides with her voice in it. Please welcome to Quest Love Supreme, Jennifer Lewis.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Thank you for coming. Hi, everybody. Hello. Welcome. Welcome. Yes. It's great to be here. It's great to be here.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I'm loving all of these conversations about the book and my career. Might as well get it out of the way. I just received my star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Yes, you did. I am still flying high from it. Right before the Hollywood Walk of Fame, I went on one of my trips around the world. I went to Ankhawat in Cambodia.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I took a helicopter through the Himalayan mountain range and set my eyes on Mount Everest. I'm trying to say that without crying. What was that experience like? Well, let me give you this. story. Hit me. It was one of the most beautiful moments of the trip. The captain of it's a private jet Abercrombie and Kent. It does these trips around the world and because I only get so much time free, I have to get on a jet like that, you know, and go and do as much as I can. I'm trying to see the
Starting point is 00:08:18 entire world before my knees give out. I don't want to go to Machu, Pichu and say, oh, the Incas were up there. No, bitch, I'm climbing. It's my mother. motherfucker. You climbed? I just. She will. No, I climbed Anchor Watt just now.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And I had this little Jordanian boy. Take me up Petra in Jordan. The hills of Moses. Most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. You understand me?
Starting point is 00:08:48 I have seen the cultural treasures of this world. The Grand Mosque in Abu Dhabi. I just took a, I just played Camel Polo in Dubai and took a helicopter over all those islands, the palm trees and the crowns. And I also, this is what happened. The captain of the pilot said, ladies and gentlemen, if you'll look off to the right of the plane, I believe I see the peaks of the Himalayan mountain range.
Starting point is 00:09:22 and there was Everest sitting above the cumulonimbus clouds. And I said, as I was filming outside of the plane, I just was saying to myself, there was a yoga teacher right next to me, one of the passengers. And she overheard me say, Dear God, I've wanted to climb to the top of that mountain
Starting point is 00:09:51 since I was 13 years old. And she looked at me and said, look at you now. You're above it. Shit. Godden. And when I saw it with my own eyes, you know, they put the helicopter down at 11,000 feet. And we only have seven minutes to take pictures of Everest and that whole world of the base camp at the base of Everest. It was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:10:21 It was it was stunning. It was majesty. It was God itself. You understand me a little colored girl from Kinlock, Missouri, who ate dirt as a little girl and set a little booty on a wooden hole to shit in 19 below zero in St. Louis, Missouri.
Starting point is 00:10:44 We went on to India, Kathmandu, and I stood in front of the Taj Mahal. It was an unbelievable trip and then to come back to the United States and become a part of a cultural treasure in Hollywood. It's been a ride, ladies and gentlemen, and let me tell you, I walk around in a state of grace. I never gave 100%, y'all. I gave 2,000 because I didn't know how not to. I was born with this charisma and this gift, and I have tried to. to honor it all my life.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It's been a hell of a ride with my bipolar disorder, but I contained it. I stayed, as I said in the ceremony, accepting the star, it was not the work I did on camera and on stage that has put this broad smile on my face that defines my success. It was the work I did off.
Starting point is 00:11:50 It was the journaling. It was the therapy. It was after five years agreeing to get on medication. I don't want to ever push medication, but I take it. And when I talk like this, I tell everybody, this ain't the truth. This is my truth. This is my story. This is my song.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So if you ask me, I'm going to tell you this is how I did it. And look at me now, I did it. This is already the greatest episode of... in the five-year history. So when you were talking about medication with your bipolar disorder, what led to the decision to get on it after years of not being going? How did you make that decision? Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Human beings change for two reasons and two reasons only, because we are habitual creatures. One is a deadly disease. Two, you just got to get tired. sick and tired of being sick and tired. It wears you out, right? It will wear you out to continue a habit over and over and over again. And see, I had a sex addiction.
Starting point is 00:13:03 And little girl, there's only so much sex you can have, for God's sake. But here's the thing about the medication. It took my therapist five years for me to come to that decision. because I thought it would take my edge. I told, I said, look, I'm Jennifer motherfucking Lewis, bitch. I don't need no goddamn medication. Ain't nothing wrong with me.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Well, Ms. Lewis, yes, there was something wrong. I was not happy. The mania of bipolar disorder is dangerous. You understand? I do. You do dumb shit like speed in a car, and you're not thinking that you could hit a whole van full of children.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Come on now. I don't do road rage no more. Because a friend of mine said to me once, when I flipped somebody out, I flipped somebody off when I was younger. My friend turned to me, Jennifer, and said, Jennifer, oh, what if that person's mother just died and they just heard about it?
Starting point is 00:14:08 And you telling them that go fuck themselves. What's wrong with you? I never, I, now, baby, I let people go. Somebody's got to say something to stop you from ruining your life. And I say to everybody with 7.6 billion people on this planet, you've got to ask for help. Somebody's there. Don't you dare spend your life in those dark rooms like I did.
Starting point is 00:14:40 You wake your ass up. Sometimes when I wake up, I have to pull on soldier in a skirt. Sometimes I have to say, Harry, where you're at. Sometimes I have to pull up Mandela's photograph to remind myself of how fragile his shoulders were and that I'm standing on him. You don't go to South Africa and go over to that island and see that cell and not walk out of there
Starting point is 00:15:15 and come home and say, I, oh, you don't get to do, you got to give back, Jenny. You got to tell the world what you've seen. Don't you dare. We are as sick as our secrets. So don't keep none. God damn it you tell somebody. I don't get what it is.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And if they don't listen to go tell somebody else. Go ahead, baby. Another question I had in regards to you talk about your sex addiction. how did you determine what was the line of demarcation between okay i'm a person who enjoys sex versus okay this is an addiction child when you start picking up men i was so bold in my shit and i was so well i know i still am but i was knock honey i was a brick house a motherfucker couldn't touch me in my 20s i was so pretty i got this skin like you're talking about okay i'll take it but i have skin like a baby's
Starting point is 00:16:15 ass and I was honey I was at the top of my game I was on Broadway I was gorgeous I had that thin ass waistline I still got it but I needed to come down from those Broadway shows when you get a standing ovation you think you you you think somebody wants it to end no so I went and so I went and did another show in my bedroom you see with more adoration let me yes and tell you something you get tired you get tired i didn't think about because of the mania i wasn't thinking of the dangers of that taking a strange man to your house i don't know if y'all might be too young to remember mr good bar the movie with dion keith's too much it's when we first got cable my parents would whenever that came was like go to your room of me i'm like
Starting point is 00:17:13 What is it? It's a good for it. I'm thinking it's like, like whatever. Yeah. Well, it was dangerous. And let me tell you y'all something. I never thought I'd run around quoting the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:17:26 But I understand this. And it is my motto. We all have a right to the pursuit of happiness. I wanted to be happy. I was depressed for many years and didn't even know it. They didn't have words like bipolar. Shit. I went on Oprah. A long time ago, told him 60 million people out by a poll. I lied. I'm tripolar in these streets. Okay. New shit. I am dry polo. New shit. There's another poll over there.
Starting point is 00:18:01 But listen, you have to be in it to win it. I gave up many times in my career, but I didn't quit. You hear me? I didn't quit. Yeah. I tell these kids, you must dream the dream. And focus only on that so that you can be well with your soul. You know what? I'm glad you said that because, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So I too was trying to figure out. And here's, you know, the disclosure is, yes. I mean, I've been in and out of, not in and out of. I mean, I've, you know, I've had a therapist. I guess you can say in and out I've been doing therapy for like 30 years but you know
Starting point is 00:18:49 the thing is when the pandemic came really you know again like I don't feel like I feel like a person shouldn't have to be at rock bottom to make the change so that's why I'm really glad the pandemic happened because it wasn't a rock
Starting point is 00:19:05 bottom moment but that was definitely somewhat of a paradigm shift for me and taking mental health seriously and all those things. But you mentioned something. And I noticed that probably the time that I might be liable to get in an argument, I mean, not a fight, not like pugilism or anything, but there's a moment after I get off stage where I can't describe the feeling.
Starting point is 00:19:36 And you said that. And I was like, oh, so I'm not, you know, I just thought like, Well, Amir, sometimes you're just an asshole after the 30 minutes after Root Show. It's almost like after a Root Show, I purposely look for a place to just sit silent and literally come down. And I can't explain it. And the thing is, it's like right after a show, that's when people were pulling for you. And Amir, let's talk. And I can't explain.
Starting point is 00:20:04 And the thing is, it's like, because these people aren't entertainers, it's hard to really explain to them. the process I go through, which is kind of why it's almost like that feeling of when you're done a show and that high you feel is such a descriptionless addiction that I can't describe that I figured out that for at least the last 30 years, I've been doing DJ gigs after the Root Show because I love music and because I love DJ, but basically I need to slowly come down off that high into normalcy. So usually after Root Show, I will DJ for three hours. So that way, I don't have to talk
Starting point is 00:20:49 to people, I'm playing music, and I come down. But and sometimes when I'm not DJing, I wonder what that is. And I thought I was the only person going through that. Because again, if you, I feel weird in talking about the
Starting point is 00:21:04 mental health space thing and have my occupation, because I always feel like people look at me like, oh, here's world's tiny's violin. Like, if people are in a certain profession, they might not, they might feel unworthy of having problems or whatnot. Like, people might not. At this point, the world knows entertainers have trauma, right? I'm just, let me interject here. Yes, yes, please, please. Yeah. First of all, we are not normal creatures. Yeah, man. Right. Right. We are artists. We are different. Are we better or worse than anyone?
Starting point is 00:21:42 No. We just are who we are. And we form who. We form the artistry. It's like Lena Simone said. An artist's duty is to speak to the times. Nina Simone didn't hide her pain. And either Simone laid it on the piano.
Starting point is 00:22:12 We have to learn what to put that quest. You have to put that somewhere. You have to compartmentalize that. You expressed it beautifully. It's called a glory train, love. You hear me talking to you? It's a glory train. And nobody can stay on that train too long.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You got to come off. You got to get in the grass and you got to surround yourself with nature and have that gratitude. It is a gratitude moment. So use it for that. You don't have to go crazy. Most people go and get drunk and party and carry on. Okay, you get a couple of those a month, but then sit the fuck down and talk about those feelings. Write them down so that the next time you feel it, you have something to balance it. Nobody's coming with the answer. Nobody's coming with a recipe. You got to pay attention to the self. It is the journey within that will get you where you need to be because what you will discover is how short life is.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Yeah. Listen to me. You want to know how I live. I live like I got five minutes left. What if? What if you had left? Who would you call? Think about that shit. What if? And I live like that. I ain't gonna lie to you.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Sometimes it's something as, like when my assistant leaves, I want to swim. But the shadows have come over the pool. So it gets a little chill. and I stand there and go, I don't want to get in this pool. Jenny, get in the fucking pool
Starting point is 00:24:19 and relax yourself. You got to talk to yourself, but guess why I got in the pool? Because when I woke up, I wrote it down. You will swim today. See, you got, that's what living on purpose is about. You can't go willy-nilly through this bitch. It'll eat you.
Starting point is 00:24:40 a lie. You gotta know that you are in charge. Write the shit down. You write your story. Instead of like I said, going willy-nilly, skipping, tiptoeing through the fucking tulips.
Starting point is 00:24:56 That's what life is. Look, life is not a rehearsal. Live this bitch. Can I just say real quick? Excuse me. Let me just say this. And I hate to be all corny and go to the book that you have out, The Walking of Your Joy. but I just realized, am I saying that right?
Starting point is 00:25:11 Walking in your joy? Yes, walking in my joy. It's my joy. But it's so interesting because a lot of people write books and they say things, but I like that you have some real practical things like what you just said to Amir about living in those five minutes. And then you wrote something else that caught me and you said when you're feeling down, you come up with a song about just how much you love yourself or how much people love you.
Starting point is 00:25:32 That's right. I'm realizing although I haven't finished a book, can people like depend that like you pretty much got little workable jewels in here, not just like, girl, live your best life. It's actually like, no. It's actionable advice. Exactly, exactly. But here's the work. The work is, how am I going to live my best life? Right. And that's what I'm saying. And that's the work. That's what you write down in the morning. Y'all, request, I don't know if you know, but when I wrote the mother of black Hollywood, I started writing in a journal in the seventh grade. You want to know what?
Starting point is 00:26:12 Because I knew I was going to be a star and I would need my book. That's seventh grade. Continuously. I am 65. There are 67 journals up there. Oh, I'm so jealous. That is, oh, why don't we do this? Why do we start and stop?
Starting point is 00:26:31 And I got about six. God damn it. So the details. Oh, she's so right. The other black Hollywood is so good because of the details. I can tell you that I had hot apple pie a la mode with Shirley Ralph on this date. Damn. You see?
Starting point is 00:26:50 You see? Yeah. So nothing is wasted. Live your life. And when I got into therapy the first time, my therapist looked at me when I told I had written all those journals. She said, that's what saved your life, little girl. I believe it. I didn't know I was saving my life.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Yeah. But that journal served in me learning at an early age. I didn't even know I was doing it to be in charge of me and leave other people alone. Child, people come and go for a season. Let it go. When they're no longer of reflection, of you, you're not going to be comfortable around them. If the toxic shit is going on, the lies and the chaos,
Starting point is 00:27:41 child, get the fuck out of there. You ain't there. There are many rooms to go to. There are many cities. All you got to do is lead the room. Fuck out of there. Shit simple. Don't sit there with all that drama and shit.
Starting point is 00:27:54 See, practical things that you can use. It's so boring. It's boring. I said the greatest sin is somebody to say, oh, I'm bored. Bitch. that I have my money. A win is a win. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.
Starting point is 00:28:47 The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl.
Starting point is 00:29:21 You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield. And in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no, I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe.
Starting point is 00:30:02 On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, It's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar, this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slice of Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Okay. So, of course, like in the last two years is the most that I've heard black people speaking on
Starting point is 00:30:59 finding joy, finding their mental health and all those things. Because previously it was a secret. I would never, like in 2011, I would never share with nobody that like, I'm a serious. I'm attached to that too.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Right. Because you don't want to share like, oh, people think I'm crazy or whatever. The thing is that I know that for black people, their go-to answer was always the church, especially of an older, you know, I was born in 71. I know you were born before I was. 57.
Starting point is 00:31:37 For a lot of people in, you know, pre-80s people, whatever. Like, their thing is always like, I'll find God or I'll talk to my preacher. So this is almost an denominatorly to hear of your generation, of your experience, really not even diving into the pool of mental therapy, but I mean, you're going to be abyss of it. You're going to the deepest level of it. So what was it, what was the moment that told you that my mental health has to be addressed in, and handle this way as opposed to.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Right away. I do consider that I do consider organized religion as a vice akin to gambling, sex, drugs. Let me say this to you. Yeah. There's a line in the movie I did, Karina Karina, where the, where the little, the little girl says, these people believe, I'm paraphrasing, but they said, these people believe in God and the people that somebody that said it was Jewish. And the question that was asked by a child was, she said, why do these people sing about this?
Starting point is 00:32:55 And the mother said, because it makes them feel good. And the little girl said, what's wrong with that? Mother said, oh, I guess nothing. Look, if you want to be an organized religion, that's okay. Let people do what they want to do. That's what gets me through life to allow, allow others to be where they are. What you're going to do? Go and make them a Buddhist.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Go and make them a Muslim. You're going to make them. What are you going to do? Once again, once again, pay attention to yourself. Everybody on this planet has one job and one job only. Self care. And if you need to cry to Jesus to do that, then you go on and cry to Jesus. but allow other people to cry to whoever the hell they want to cry to.
Starting point is 00:33:47 That's what I don't like about religion. Everybody think their religion is the best one. So I don't believe in that. Leave people alone. Leave people alone. If they want to work, you let them worship Jesus. Let them work a Buddha or Muhammad or Allah. Let people do what the fuck they want to do.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I know who I am. I searched every religion in this. world. I have been down the road less travel. And when I got to the end, that wasn't up but the big ass mirror.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You cannot run wherever you run. You will meet yourself. There's no running, and I told them on the breakfast club, I got money to run. And you can't even run. You can't run. Don't ask me
Starting point is 00:34:44 Don't ask me for now I'm like what's his name The baby I love Dave Chappelle I'm rich bitch But don't ask me for shit All right There you go
Starting point is 00:34:53 What do you say to Even like to what On Amir's question Like you're leading the pack Of your generation in that way Like he said Like you're It is kind of special
Starting point is 00:35:03 Do you see In the difference In the generational How we're now using words And it had vocabulary For things That we didn't have before When I
Starting point is 00:35:12 I got you. When I went on the road with the mother black Hollywood, because it was my journey through bipolar disorder, I was able to feel not only the temperature, but the temperament of the United States. I went all over during the Trump era. People are starting to wake up. I was very pleased. They're starting to get counseling in churches. They are starting to put more counseling in youth centers. Our children are falling apart. And I'm not the only woman in the world that cares. People are coming together. We are getting better. Everybody wanted to talk about the stigma. Yes, there is a stigma. But we are getting better.
Starting point is 00:35:58 You see, my mother didn't have the Oprah Winfrey show. Okay? That's what I'm saying. My mama didn't know nothing about mental illness. And yet, if someone were to ask me, I would say, absolutely she was. I do believe that she was depressed She had me when she was 26 years old And I was her seventh child
Starting point is 00:36:17 Whoa And she was scrubbing white people's floors You think she had time to give me affection She was exhausted by the time I came along Listen Eve Insler who wrote the vagina monologues She went all around the world She went to Africa with the women
Starting point is 00:36:38 that we're having the clitoris clitorisism, if it's clitoris, I don't know if it's plural. I only have one. All right, I used to have three, but I just got one now. Now listen. Remember what are those first porn stars
Starting point is 00:36:59 that bitch had two? When we just had, listen. Vanessa, don't, God damn. Keep going. That's real. You just to have two. Wait, that bitch had two clitoris and she was the first. Why do I know that?
Starting point is 00:37:13 Rio has two, she can't see a real? Something like that. Something like that. It was funny, but it let me get back to the serious shit. Okay, sorry. Focus. No, let me get back to the serious shit. Listen.
Starting point is 00:37:26 All I can say, I know, didn't I go into three clitoris, honey? Got lost in them clitoris. I did too. I need to find somebody to tell me whether clitoris is, is it's clitoris, says, says, Come on, Jennifer. If you don't know. Clitory, clitori.
Starting point is 00:37:41 The clitori. The clitori. I have no idea. And that is our promo for this, Jennifer. You know, I'll come out of the bag with anything. I don't care. Multiple clitoris. We love it.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Thank you. Did you look it up? No. No. I was in, when I was in the Sarangetti, two little baby rhinoceroses thought I had some food. So they came over to me. And they just going. like this, just a donky don'tky don't.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And when they saw I didn't have no food, they kind of don'tie don't away from me. And I started screaming, I never heard of Jenny Craig, badass, anybody got no food for you. I'll cuss out a rhinoceros bitch. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:38:28 And then I had to look up whether it was not rhinoceride. Because most of my friends are, wait a minute, because wait a minute, listen. because most of my friends are major intellectuals. I keep smart people around me, honey. You got to. Listen, I can feel enough for everybody.
Starting point is 00:38:46 You just tell me what the shit is what's going on. But here, but if I, listen, if I'm going to stand in the serengeti and cuss out two baby rhinoceroses, what do you think I'm going to do with the story of the clitoris? Get the fuck out of it. Let's go. What's next? Who cusses out?
Starting point is 00:39:08 All right now. So what you need to know is Jennifer Lewis will go anywhere. Ain't no shame in my game, baby. I'll do anything to make people laugh. Is, because I'm also interested in your need to see the world now. I would have liked to have thought that I'm, you know, that I've, I'm well-traveled, at least in my 30 years of touring the world and whatnot. But you've seen the airport, the hotel, and the video.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yeah, I was going to say that. I still, and I know I've done things that are special, whatnot. Like I'm, you know, again, post-pandemic, I am living life like, I mean, not to the five-minute rule. Once you said that, then I was like, oh, shit, I'm not doing shit with my life. For you, how did you even organize or make a bucket list of the things that you wanted to do before you leave this plane called Earth? There was no bucket list. There was purpose. See, when I travel, I go into the trenches.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I tell my private guy to take me wherever they're not going. I want to talk to the people. When I was just in India, there were four people serving me one night. They had on their little beautiful chef hats, little white chef hats and their white mask. and I said to them because I had come through the poverty of Agra, India. And I'd heard the stories of the untouchables and the caste system. So I went over to those four people that were cooking. And I told them that I came from that kind of poverty.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And I looked at them, I said, you do know that you must rise up. Do you understand what I'm saying? I got a little nods from him. And then I said, one of you is Gandhi. And I walked away with my plate of falafel and purposefully went back to them dramatically, pointed to the girl and said, it's you.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I said, and if it's not you, young lady, you better goddamn make sure it's your daughter. and she sneaked over to me at my table. She took her chef at off. She took the mask off and came over to me like she had been invited to that party, which you know was against the rules of the hotel. She stood over me and she said,
Starting point is 00:41:50 I don't know your name, but I want to thank you. I will rise to St. Louis. Because when she said that, said, my name is Ms. Lewis. Oh, come on down, Jesus. You see, I'll call Jesus when it's, because my mama called Jesus when things were good. You understand? So I go into the trenches. There's a video going around of me talking about voting at Hollywood and Vine after I got my star. I didn't know I was being filmed. I was signing autographs. But when I get a bunch of kids in front of me, I'm going to use that time, whether I'm in India or Hollywood or Cambodia.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Show me whether people are suffering. Bring them to me. Like, oh, okay, so I'm in Argentina. And I tell my driver to take me to the real people. He said, oh, Miss Lewis, it's dangerous in there. I said, I don't care. Take me in. I got out of that car. All these kind of people were standing on the corner and everything. They looked over at me getting out of that SUV that Mercedes. But they saw the color of my skin. Oh, oh yeah. And some of them came off.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And I said to them, oh, honey, I'll use that celebrity. I say, y'all know who I am. I said, you watch television? I say, you know the show Fresh Prince. And that's when everybody wakes up because that shit is glow. Right. That show ain't just national and international. That shit's global. I was in a 300, I was in a 350 year old glacier in Iceland and a bitch came up and said some shit about. Really? I'm like, I got that. Yeah, I'm like, goddamn girl, we're in a glacier. Get the fuck out of here before this ice come down. Fuck who I am. Let's get the fuck out of here before the ice come down and keep the fucking voice down before you. You tell her to keep her voice down that ass funny.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I think that's actually I clip. Wait a minute. This was after I sang, this was after I sang Amazing Grace in the wedding chapel that they had carved off in the ice. Oh, I bet that's funny. It's on YouTube. You can actually hear that. That performance is on YouTube. I sang Amazing Grace then.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Wait a minute, y'all. The guy said, does anyone sing? What you say? Men and my friend went, bitch, you ain't said nothing but a word. I went up to an ice podium and blasted that shit out. And I haven't released it yet, but I sang Amazing Grace in the Ankhartan in Cambodia, one of the great old ancient temples. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:52 And then I sang it in the valley of Petra. I always get out and do a little something and leave my singing voice in those canyons and in those mountain range. But I will tell you this, I didn't sing Amazing Grace up in the Himalayans. I got to fuck out of there before my lungs burst at 11,000 feet.
Starting point is 00:45:13 You can believe that shit. Fuck Amazing Grace. I have to fuck out of there. I don't think we've ever had an episode. We're 45 minutes into this episode, and I'm thinking to myself, I don't even want to talk. about the creative side of Jennifer Lewis like this show is more about like the
Starting point is 00:45:32 creative life but listen at it I just I just love quest I love quest I get my own song I just love quest is that like just just him now is that like just him now is that Yeah, I'll share that. That's for you, Pumpkin. Hey. Dante Leia, you'll... I'll get me... I'll think of what rhymes with the quest.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Just. Everyone is what love on the show. Yes. Loveness. Thank you. I shall keep that. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're pausing it there for now.
Starting point is 00:46:29 After that serenade, I, you know, needed a minute. So Jennifer Lewis, you know, lively, real, and raw as anyone has ever been on Questlove Supreme, and I think she may have cussed more than any guests, including Deezes and Miro. All right, you heard me say it in the episode, but you can see why I called this one of the best QLS conversations ever.
Starting point is 00:46:51 So we expect you back next week for part two, and make sure you pre-order Jennifer's second book, Walking and My Joy in These Streets, and I believe that's August 30th. It's like this combo. All right, see y'all next week. What's Love Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio. For more podcasts from IHart Radio,
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