The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: Jill Scott (Part 2)

Episode Date: June 17, 2020

One of Questlove and Team Supreme's most anticipated interviews, Jill Scott, is finally here! Her relationship with The Roots introduced her to the world through a Grammy award winning song called, ��You Got Me”. Hear the story of how a talented girl from North Philly joined forces with some of Philly’s finest to stake her claim in this world of soul music and take it far beyond expectations into the lands of television and film. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Questlove Supreme is a production of Iheart Radio. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. My name is Questlove. Last week, we had this long overdue talk with our friend,

our love, Jill Scott, coming up, without further ado, part two of our exciting interview on Questlup Supreme, with one and only, Miss Jill Scott. It's like our first real extended conversation that's lasted more than an hour in our 20 years of knowing each other. Now I understand why she ended up working with Jazzy Jeff. And even that was just about this. Let's talk about it. I was trying. I called James Poyser because I knew him from the Jam Sessions. I called every producer that I knew of, every studio that I knew of to find out if they needed a writer or a singer.

And for six months, nobody said anything. And then one day, I saw Jazzy Jeff on the street talking to Rich Medina. And I was like, what's up? I'm just annoyed, you know, heading to the theater, go sweep floors and clean toilets. And I walked away. And Jeff was like, who? Who was that? And Rich told me, that's Joe Scott. He was like, that's Jill Scott. She calls my studio every day. Wow. And then they called me in to see if I could write a song, but I, you know, still lying. I was like, yeah, yeah, write a song. And I tried it and it worked out. It just, and it kept working out. And it just, until an album happened, just kept working. What was the first song that you wrote. The first

song, I had a touch of jazz. The first song that I ever wrote, well, the hook I ever wrote was, you got me. Wait a minute, dog. That's what she said. She said she faked her way through. I know that, but I still was hoping to get clarity that my song wasn't your first.

You got it. That's my first. You got it. That's my first. Vanessa. Yes. Oh. What kind of artist is you?

That's what you get. Mm-hmm. Are you serious? I am. For all listening to this episode, that's a life lesson. You stepped into some shit into an opportunity. I would have thought that by that point, I mean, you handled it like you've been doing this shit for seven, eight years.

I've never once heard you say, this is the first song I ever wrote. Wait, also, how does it feel to be Drake famous? Did you like your shout out? Yeah. This is his second one. Oh shit, I missed the first one. Yeah. Oh, wait, we got two

Drake icons on the line. What he said to you, Jill? Huh? What did he say to you? I'd have missed it. He talked about his question on Jill Scott on this new album. Yeah.

Okay, I'll go listen to that. All the kids are listening to it. It's very sweet. You're banging. I mean, okay, yeah. She got. Thanks, ma'am. Thanks, love you.

Yo, but Jill, weren't you one of the rare artists that actually got the whole touch of jazz involved in your record because it's not like too many artists that have everybody, right? Yeah, what was it like at the point where they were together? Like, as a unit. Magic. Magic. I miss that.

I think, I mean, that's the thing I missed the most. We had so much fun in every room they were working. Every room, five rooms, four rooms, or whatever it was at the time. You just walk out of one and go to the next. A totally different energy. And then you go in the next room and laugh hysterically.

Vidal, of course, was hilarious and still is. And Dre is learning how to play the guitar at the time. And Keith is straight out of church. So all of his stuff, everything that he puts his fingers to on the keys, it just feels like old soul. Because the church that he was in, his father was a pastor, and it just felt old and rich and everything.

It was, we had fun. We didn't have any money. We shared cheese steaks. We cut out the McDonald's bag. to go to great not great adventures all rode in Dre's car it had a hole in the floor

if you sat in the front seat and you had to not fall asleep and let your feet fall in the hole because it was a rap it's a rap yeah it's a rap we were broke and it was fun and it was probably still

the best time I ever had like recording you were working on the album or what would become the album this was before Hidden Beach even came into the picture. Yeah, I had been calling Jeff, and finally he'd see me and he said, okay, you can come in. I called again and said, oh, why did you come down? And none of the guys wanted to give me any music. So I kind of hung around, stood around, hung around.

I was like, well, do you have anything that I could take? And they were like, oh, no, no, we're working with Will Smith. And we worked with, you know. And I was like, well, this studio. I got to find a way to come back here. You know, the lobby, the wood is exposed. Can I stain in polyurethane the lobby? So it'll look nice.

My girl. Stop playing, Jill. Seriously? He's so serious. I'm very serious. And Jeff was like, oh, that wood looked nice. And I said, well, you know, can I do it? And he was like, all right, I give you, you know, I'll give you the money for supplies.

and I stained in polyurethane the lobby. And so that I could hear what was going on in the other rooms. And, you know, they would come out and lead a door open and let me hear sometimes. Or I would, you know, go in for a minute and to say, oh, I like that. And then eventually they gave me a tape. And they had seven songs on them. And those seven songs ended up being on who is Jill Scott. And the rain was after that.

right? I'm sorry. You said Will Smith, so I just automatically went to the rain. It happened later. Okay. After they started letting me write and then sing because I had to let him know. I wasn't planning on singing, but I had to let them know how it went. And they were like, oh, that was good. Wait a minute, you sing? I was like, yeah. Yo, can I do. Jill, would be ready in one of them seven songs?

Be ready came later. Dang, okay. We ready, came later. I love that song. Oh, my God. Please use that for the battle. That's the most amazing story I've ever heard, Mom. One thing we never talked about, like, your voice.

How did you develop your voice? You said you didn't, like, really sing in choirs or church or whatever. How did you develop your style? I did sing at Girls High, but we sang classical music primarily. And that just, it just felt nice to me. And then they sent me on some school trip and I saw Kathleen Battle sing and was like, oh my God, I didn't even know there was a such thing as a black opera singer. Like, this is dope. And then mostly, honestly, I just started being a mimic.

I mimicked Anita Baker. I mimicked Phyllis Heimann. Kathleen Battle mimicked her. I think this is where it started. You know, I didn't have any plans to. to sing at all. I'm still amazed. I'm still like, what? You want me to what? Okay.

Word? All right. Okay. Yeah, Jeff, he said the same thing about he said, like, when y'all first started working that, and you can, you know, tell me if it straight out, he was saying that they kind of had to convince you, I guess, to sing. Like, you know, they were more so

interested in doing the poetry, but he was like, yo, what the hell? Like, nah, you need to do that shit. You know what I'm saying? He was kind of pushing you to do it. Yeah, yeah, he was definitely a motivating force. And then I think when I started singing in front of people, this was before that. I mean, yeah, this was before a touch of jazz or hitting beach or any of that. Rich Medina and I, we were sitting outside my house in North Philly and things had gone real bad. I knew all the junk dealers, I knew all the crackheads, nobody ever bothered me.

You know, somebody would like try to run up on me or whatever. and they see me like, oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Jill. And if they were real hot, they'd be like, Jill, Jill, you know. Right. You know how to, you know how they got to give you a double name. A double name. That's right. Right.

What's on, Miriamere? Then some guy pulled up on us and tried to rob us sitting in front of my house and shot at us, actually. Richard pulled off and the guy shouted us. and everything I think was different. We had a poetry reading the next day, and I went to it in my pajamas because I couldn't figure out how to put clothes on.

My safety was gone. Everything I knew that was my own, this is my hooddies or my crackheads. This is my drug dealers. This is my block. You know, I'm safe. It was gone. And I, instead of writing or reciting the poem,

I had written, I just started singing. and that was a beginning. What year was that, you remember? Must have been two, no, couldn't have been 2000, probably 98, 90s. Yeah, probably like 98. Gotcha. And that's when I was like, I think I could do this, you know, I probably could do this.

I'll just try to be a writer because Lord knows I don't want to be famous. Wow. So what was that like? Well, first of all, wait, there's a question I had about your block. The house that the video to Long Walk is connected to, is that your childhood home? Yes. And the same house is getting in the way? You're just sitting in front?

The one that I came out of for getting in the way is across the street from my house. I pass my house. Right. And the one that I was sitting on the steps for, a long walk that's a neighbor's. I got to say, uh, the intro to long walk. Not really strong. The intro. Yeah, well, no, no, no. I don't even mean the, the, the video. Of course, the video, too,

because you're smiling all that stuff. But that, that, the 10 second, the first 15 seconds of long walk, the song is probably like, I have like my top five happy adrenaline moments, Like things I have to hear if I need to like get in a mood of happiness or whatever, Long Walk and Herb Alpert's Route 101 are those two songs. Which is weird to connect. Don't look up Herb Alpert's Root 101. People associate that with the dentist office happy song. But yeah, man, it's something that like, do you ever get tired of

people's fandom of because I feel as though they don't give your entire catalog a fair shot only because I think that sort of like your association with the whiz I think the sentimental attachment to discovering you as an artist as a fan discovering you as an artist and what the soundtrack of that album for everyone in 2000 like it was perfect because no one saw it coming. And nobody saw it coming. Like literally on, I'll say the soundtrack to the voodoo tour was like just playing it every 24-7.

If I'm not playing it, Anthony Hamilton's playing in the back. Even DeAngel is so retro. Like he wouldn't dare listen to anything older than like 30 years. Like even he's rocking that shit because no one is expecting it. Like how, how was it the first go-round in your taste of celebrity and your relationship with your family, your relationship with your friends? And I might have to move out of this neighborhood. Like, separation. Can you come back?

What's Thanksgiving like in Thanksgiving 2001? Like, what was it like the first year and a half that after that album came out? well I could say there were a lot more people at the family reunion than I ever showed up for sure you all have the story yeah man I didn't expect anything

so I got way more than I expected because I wasn't expected anything but Lysel and I were living together and our little second floor walk up and people were riding by playing the music at three, four o'clock in the morning, you know, just highest capacity, just so loud.

And I, at first, honestly, I was blown, I just was blown away. I didn't expect anything. So I was really, didn't know how to take it. Didn't, didn't know what to feel about it either. Oh, it just started to hurt. Mm. In what way? In what way?

Because people, there were the presumption that they knew everything. thing about me or who I was instead of just meeting me. And that hurt. It hurt me. Like I've got over since. Right. Hmm? I heard she.

I heard she. I know her from this to do that. She's like this. So she's like that. I'm like I'm still growing. I'm still figuring shit out. I don't know. I'm out here trying to live.

And you still had. And they gave you the earthy label too, which for us at Black Radio trying to play you're ready to play a song. We were trying to make people understand the difference in earthy and neo-souled people and regular old folks and the fact that they were regular old folks. She wrote a song about beating the bitch's ass. Like, why can't she just be?

Yeah, there's nothing conscious about this. Yeah, no. No, but they put you in that bubble. They put you in a box. Bubbles happened, you know. I didn't like that either. I just didn't like the world thinking that they knew who or what or why I was even here

before I did. You know, I'm still figuring it out. 20 years later, you know, who is Jill Scott? So much has changed, you know, it's way different than it was last year. You know, I'm a mother of 11-year-old now. That's way different from 10. I don't care who you talk to. Hey, you're glad you taught now, aren't you?

Them teachers are coming into handy. They have to. You know, we're in the middle of a pandemic. What does that mean? Who do I? come in the middle of a pandemic or who does anybody become? You know, I'm, I still like simple things, no matter how fancy my life may appear. I still hug trees.

I think they're the bomb. I do. You just erase my whole argument about you being earthy, but that's fine. I flirt with them. You know, I, I'm still very, very simple in these ways. And I treasure that about myself. And I just take it all with a grain of salt all the time. all the time.

I don't need the athlete so much. What I need is to be able to pay all my bills. I need to be able to go on vacations and enjoy them. I need to be able to help my people where I can. I need to be able to not worry that I'm headed back where it came from because I don't want to go. I don't want to be shot at. I don't want to have to fend off, you know, crackheads trying to shoot at me. I don't want that like.

So you have nightmares of one day this could be over and I'll be back at 23rd and blah, blah, blah. I have nightmares of not having food in the pantry. That is, that's a big one. Where do you know that comes from? It comes from quite some time where neighbors, Jehovah Witnesses, particularly were coming by dropping off baskets of food because we didn't have any. and I'm you know it's not like I'm really pulling out of violin for sad songs

this is my existence this is my life and these are the things that it keep me grounded I know that it only takes one wrong phrase or one wrong song or one wrong role or you know to have

to have a society cancel you or or sue you away and not value you know what you bring to the table I don't think that I'm the greatest singer. I think that I offer a lot of spirit. I think that whatever, if it's passion or lust, if it's fear or pain or happiness,

simple joys, whatever they may be, thought process, when I sing, you can hear that. And that's my gift. I'm able to convey emotions well. And I'm aware. No, you do that well. And you, I always wanted to tell you this, like, you really played a big role, probably unknowingly for me.

I was doing a session with Jeff, like, some years ago. And it was a Little Brother song, and me and Poo, we were driving up to Delaware, and we had in our mind, okay, it's rap-de-rap rap time. We bought the damn rap this nigga under the table, you know what I'm saying? And so we just like, all right, this rap-de-rap, rap. And so we get to the spot, and Jeff is just playing like all these kind of online. R&B records, you know what I'm saying? And they were dope.

I mean, the shit was dope, but it was not what we expected, you know what I mean? And so we ended up doing a song where poo rhymed, and I mean, I ended up singing on it. And so I was just singing because Jeff had to catch a flight and stuff. And so I'm just kind of cutting vocals, not really thinking about it. And so I came

out the booth and I was like, Jeff had this look on his face. I thought I had fucked up. I said, man, what's wrong? He was like, man, you need to be singing all this. You need to be singing. I was like, Jeff, dude, I just kind of did it because that's what we had. I don't really want to do it. He was like, man, you know who the same, you know who else said that?

You know who else said that same shit? I was like, who? He said, Jill. And I was like, damn. Like, word. And he said that time, he told me, he said, man, sometimes people can see things in you that you don't see in yourself. He was like, bro, you got something. Keep doing. And that's something that I always, I always just wanted to share that with you. You know, you really, when I heard, when he heard, when I heard him say that

Jill Scott didn't think she was a good singer. I said, well, nigger, goddamn. Turned on the mic, nigga. Everybody must hate their voice then because I love your voice, you know what I mean? But that was really inspiring to me. So I, Jill, what is your preparation for acting and how different, how does it differ

to your preparation for singing and songwriting? Like, what's your creative process? Are you meditation? Is it like what's your creative approach to it? Probably terror is the first step for me. Like I just don't want to fuck up so bad. I don't want to be the weak link in the room. I don't, that's like I just don't want that.

What was the first one, Jill? Was it? Why did I get married? Yeah. Yeah. And the first TV show was girlfriends. And Mara, Mara Brock, I killed gave me an arc. She had never even seen me act before and gave me an arc.

And I was like, come on, God. Like, I'm just, like, out here blessed, like, crazy. And it's like ridiculous. Goodness gracious. Anyway, how do I prepare? Like, first is terror and then there's homework. So I can be prepared. And I study a lot, a lot.

I try to take walks where I can and be still where I can. And then I need to move my body, you know, so that I could feel that person, you know, in me, around me. And then the famous line is to be that guy. That's it. Be that guy at all costs, whatever that means. Who challenged you the most in this acting journey, like, as far as, like, direction? Anthony Mangela. he was he um he directed the talented mr rippley okay uh i think in the piano lesson cold mountain

and he developed your HBO series correct yes he auditioned me six times for ladies detective agency yes for hours it was the most gruesome experience at some point i was like fuck you either you want me or you don't. Like I can't keep coming here. Oh, I need you to come tomorrow. Come to New York tomorrow. Dude, like, I have other things that I have to do. Seriously, you got to know by now if you want me or not.

And his auditions were brutal. Okay, say the lines and now your left rib is cracked. Go. Okay, say the lines and now you have something stuck in your right eyelash. Go. Now, say the lines and you can't stop. stop, you can't stop drooling. Go.

Wow, that sounds awesome. Yeah, obstacle after obstacle after challenge after. Was he doing anything? See how well you take instruction or? I don't know what he was doing, but being Anthony McGuella, the man won like eight Oscars. Exactly. And you were the first black woman to help to lead a HBO series. So shit, yeah, it wasn't going to be easy.

Yeah. I was, I was really hurt when I didn't win. NAACP Image Award for that role. I was really hurt because I shot that shit. I was, I left there seven months pregnant. We worked in 117 degrees casually

and on location, right? On location in Botswana for seven months. And yeah, three months the first time, four months the next time. And I was just like,

I shot a show about Africa, you know, even though it's fictional in Africa. What's more colored people than that? In Africa. And you've lifted and reversed it and now you're playing them where they usually play us. Exactly. Well, if they get the opportunity, which is a real trip. That's true. I'm thinking of Black Brits. How long did it take you to have that accent comfortably? We, they, I was studying an hour a day every day for two months. And then, um,

When I got there, it was all wrong. They gave me a Zim accent and not a Mutsuana accent. Whoa. So I had time. Unlearn everything? Unlearn everything. And relearn it real fast. And the Mutsuana women, the elder women, would sit around and if I got something wrong, they go.

Yeah. Ha! And I was like, that's not the sound that I wanted to hear. I did not want to let them down in any way. And then when I got stuff right, you hear them go, my gal! an amazing experience you you'll live for my guess that was what happened

what happened with the show why did they only do one he passed away right yes he did yes he did he was so brilliant and I thought that he was a flirt I didn't know what was going on him so touchy like stop touching me all the time

I don't like it and I smacked him because I was like it's too much I don't know what you're doing and then his wife came and I had an opportunity to see them together. And I realized, oh, my God, he's not flirting. He's Italian. He's just loving an Italian.

And then after that, our relationship just, you know, flew. You know, he was brilliant. And it was Sidney Pollock, who was the executive producer. And Harvey Weinstein was, uh, ta-da. Yeah. So Sydney passed away first and then Anthony passed soon after. You know, I tried to get the show to continue, but nobody was really interested. I don't know.

I thought it was because the show was too positive. You know, there wasn't a bunch of disease and murder and, you know, war and AIDS. You know, it's just people being people in Africa. You know what I'm saying? Like it wasn't enough death and destruction. It wasn't enough death and destruction. So, you know, this sweethearted show couldn't continue. A win is a win.

A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clipper Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new. podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream,

This is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.

And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands.

I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Ago Wadam. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live,

and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet.

Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be.

Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to thanks, Dad, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are there any ideas that you like to develop for future projects? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. There's one lion knows.

But I've had my finger on one for quite some time. after a few times trying to get somebody to pick it up, but it looks like I'm going to have to make a phone call to your ass. And I'm working on it now. And it's the right thing to do with all my heart. It's the right thing I do. Wonderful story. How is this involved like yet?

How is it what? It doesn't involve me. She just told me. It's involving you because I'm going to call you and ask you for some money. I'm also going to call you and ask you for some insight. Laia. No, Amir, you know, she ain't calling me about no money. I don't know.

I thought you had some trust fund money or something. Like you. Yeah, I'm talking about. You're sitting here with you right now. I don't think so. Yeah, trust for the money. She wouldn't be on Questal Supreme. You never turned her.

At least not as often. At least not as often. It'd be a special guest episode. Like, you know, like, The cigarette. I don't know. It's a very special project, and I know that I'm going to

have to put in a lot of guts. A lot of guts. Amir's ready to do it. Is it TV? Is it movie? Like what kind of project? It's a film. It's a film. Yeah. Amir is ready.

He's receiving well these days. Look at him. He owes you for keeping you in Paris in a fucking hotel. He left you in Paris. That's a thing. You're staying in a half a house. Fouet house. I didn't know.

They was at the damn. They was at the Ritz car and they had you in a Lekinta and shit. And you know he didn't call you for a year after that. He was like, oh, what happened? I mean, what? I'm trying to tell you in that Detroit Hotel. I was so scared. I was so scared.

I was like, oh, they fight. They're out there. Overtchaise that nigger for what he did to the cold crush. Yeah. Here you all. It all works out. It really does. That's going to work out.

That's going to work out. It all works out. One thing I always wanted to ask you, some of my favorite songs are yours. I always just your short kind of interlude songs like Crown Royal. Yes. Hear my call. I think that's the right. Those are just gorgeous fucking songs.

Like what's your thought process and just making them short versus like full, you know, I guess, verse, chorus, bridge, whatever kind of songs? I think when it's done, it's done. I just feel that way. Like when it's done, it's done, I could, you know, keep forcing the issue. But, you know, when you bust a nut, it's, you did it already. You don't necessarily have to go back for more. It could be like.

That's what it was. No, I get you. Yeah. Is it, all right, can I ask for hear my call specifically? Uh-huh. Is. Yeah, that was you. That was your idea.

Oh, he was searching for credit. Go ahead and get it. Not even. That was totally right. No, no, not even. Is it still draining and emotional for you to sing it? Yes. Or do you have a she's out of my life relationship with it now where it's like,

you can phone it in if you want to? Like, what if there's a night where you're just not in the mood to rock that song, but you know that there's expectations to or I've just never seen a song in which people are boohoo crying anytime. And I've seen you probably like seven times. Yeah. In concert. Yeah. And mostly in the back row now, because I'm sorry about that. Somehow they placed me like dead row, front row center like Jill's first Philly show. That's horrible. I'm sorry. I didn't choose the seat. No, I'm just saying I won't do that to you. I'll try to make sure that let them do that too. No, no. I went to the back row because it was like. You don't want to be in the front row.

I was in the front road dead center in front of you. And I was like, oh, God, why am I right? My point is the reason why you're such an amazing performer is because it's, it's heartfelt and it's believable. And it's authentic. That song in particular breaks people's hearts so much every time they hear it. Are there times where you're just like, nope, no more. I'm not doing this anymore. Like smells like teen spirit.

they well the audiences in Europe they typically won't leave until I sing it they will not leave no matter what I say no matter how many lights come on they will not be waiting for it and I died ridiculously I could barely finish the dance you know I go over the time I'm why did you write that why did you say that why damn it and then record it and have the audacity to put it on a project so other people can hear it. But I feel like that's the work. You know, you want people to smile randomly or, you know, flirt or be, or feel in love. Feel it, you know. And if you need to mourn something, there should be music for that too. There's music for cooking. There's music for cleaning. You know, there's all this good music,

luckily for us, you know, humanity and music, we're so connected. And I struggle with that. You know, I typically sob myself. And then, you know, it's a whole audience full of tears. And it just is what it is. And, you know, that means there's hugs to be given because I need to feel better. And so do you. So, you know, I typically come out.

And then, you know, before COVID, you know, we help each other. It just, you know, it's not my favorite to do the sad songs, but I'm here for it. And apparently the audience came forward to. Man. I think it's well written. I have to give myself some credit on that. I think that my pen definitely poured out my heart at that time. Can you only sing your songs, Jill, you think?

I can't sing everybody's songs. No. I mean, a song written by someone else. Yeah, I can sing a song written. by somebody else. For me, if it's for me. If it's someone, got you. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I have a question.

Okay, first, let me give you a flowers for Rolling Hills. I love that song. Me too. I hope that's one. Maybe it'll be one of the ones for verses. You know, we'll see. We need to talk about it. I love that fucking song.

I love that. It's so hard to choose because they're, you know, they're asking me for 20 of my favorite songs. And I'm like, my, my favorite. are kind of obscure. Like, I don't know. Don't go into the artist's danger zone.

The danger zone. What's the danger zone? When the artist picks out all their songs and don't realize that these have nothing to do with people love. But the people want. Oh. And then you realize there's a reason for the record label.

You go, oh, yeah. I don't have one of those. I'm just saying. What you're thinking, Jim? And I own my masters. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Amir's on your masters. That's dope. Wow. dope. Oh, okay. Another question I had. So hate on me. Yeah.

Was that song about okay players? Oh, oh, oh, oh, yes. It was. Yes.

Shut up. I'm about to say, we have confirmation. No. No. No. Damn, Jill Scott, the turmoil and danger

I've brought to your life, man. No. It's not true. It's not true at all. Surviving the mere. Thompson. You know what I'm saying?

That would be hilarious. It would. It would be such a mild, like, no-seat inversion. That would be hilarious. Survising a beard Thompson. All right. Chicken.

Jigua right. New Ron. I'm just, I'm just joking. Oh, God. Now you go. Just joking. Did you say new rock? I just, I just, I just, I just,

I just, I just, what? What? What was her guitar player's name? We're in the heaven. Dan. That was. Don't.

Dan was the guitar player. Wait, you're you telling me she married Dan? No. She does not marry Dan. Somebody else. Oh, I was like, Lae.

I believe new right now is in Brighton, Brighton, England. Last time I spoke to her, she was dating, um, all right, who's saying that duet with Nana Cherry, seven seconds?

Uh, the African singer. Yusua and doer Yassu and Do like Nenna Cherry's last big hit in like 1998 Yossinu D'Nor Yusin Duan Ossu Endo

Oh that's what you're saying? Yeah I said Yusu and do it That was your caricature moment I didn't know You're speaking of tongues That was amazing Yeah it was you so endure Yeah she was dating him

I don't know like the last I heard she was doing something with Spike, maybe a commercial with Spike, but I don't care who she's dating. Yeah, no, no, I haven't heard from, I haven't heard from new, probably since Rich died. New, I think that's the last time I talked to her. Come on, man, where's the Black Lily world in town?

You loved her. You know we need one. That was a great experience. Black Lily was awesome. Why do you say, no, we could use a Black Lily? What's my girl? You just need a sign that says all ego. at the door. All egos at the door. Same rigs, same position,

out loud. Everything and all egos at the door. If Jill can check her, it'd be great. Dude, I mean. If Jill can check hers. I know. I'm fucking Tracy and new, I mean, Tracy and Mercedes, like, I see them all the time. Yeah, we do. I do. It can happen. It can be so great. There's some lilyites that. Oh, you know, they might wrap nothing. Okay, all right. I'd just be throwing names out there. I'm gonna stop. Yeah. Okay. Jasmine down, no.

Asian Fatian, they down. So, I mean, dog, we good. But we're talking about Black Lily. That's what I'm, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Jasmine is Black Lily. Asian 15, that's Black Lily. Yeah. Agent 14 performing the Black Lily?

Girl, yeah. Well, you know what you had already hit by then. They, yeah, they, they were the ones. They really, like, Asian Fatigue, like by the time, the first draft of Black Lily went on to like get record deals and stuff they were like the they were like it was like toy story they were the broken toys

left behind and they all grouped up the superpowered it and then became oh what a way to put it a monster and I was like yo what the fuck happened like they started kicking our ass they were who you look forward to singing every week and next thing you know you're amazing they're amazing yeah they just

big up to Kendrit the family soul they're amazing And they went to Hidden Beach They did go to Hidden Beach, man They did I was supposed to say, Jill That's what they followed just on. Yeah, so what happened with Hidden Beach

From your perspective because just from a consumer side, they had you And we were like, yes, Jill, like that was all Jill to Jill. Then they did the, it was Brenda Russell. They did that Brenda Russell album. They did the rain thing. Yeah, it was Paris Rain.

That was right. And then, Unwrap value 19. Unwrap volume, yeah, one through eight. Yeah, so like what was your experience with them how that relationship, I guess, kind of deteriorated on your side? To be perfectly right. It did.

I thought that they had some really good artists on there. Kendrit being one of them. They, you know, that's Kendrick. And they're so talented. And the songwriting is so good. And their stage performance is so amazing. Like, you need to put more money into Kendrick. But I didn't have a set.

in what Hidden Beach did because they're the label. I'm not the label. And I didn't like that. I didn't like that. That didn't feel good to me that I couldn't be of service in that way. You know, I watched them sign a lot of artists. And it was like, what are you doing? What are you doing?

And I thought that we had a friendship. I thought that we had this family thing that was happening. So when I realized it was just business, you know, I was really disappointed. And then President Obama was working on being in office, and everything was about the election. And they weren't being supportive. And I didn't feel like they were helping me at all with radio. I didn't realize until later on how much everything that occurred had to do with my effort.

So, you know, I'm coming up with the album. I'm working out the images. I'm, you know, handing out flyers. I'm, you know, I did a lot coming up with every idea. I designed the videos, the first, you know, three videos. I was like, I'm designing what I do. I'm tired. Can somebody help me?

Right. You know, like, I can't do it all. And then, you know, go to these. I had pneumonia, I think, like, three times in two years. Because I toured that first two years without balance. that's one of the things with young artists. I'm like, yes, absolutely go out there and do the hustle. But you have to have a balance or you will lose your mind and you will lose your health.

And the goal is longevity. It's Frankie Beverly, that Midler longevity out here. And that's what I'm saying. That's what I want. That's what I want. And I thought I was killing myself trying to make it work for the label. And I was like, ah. So I left.

And, you know, I think the last number was like they tried to sing me for like, oh, 19 million. What? On what grounds? That I left, that I was leaving. And I had a couple of records to left on the contract. Left on that, yeah. And yeah, I was like family, huh?

Yeah, because I saw, okay, yeah, okay, yeah, Nick, let's talk about it. Okay, so that shit they put out the, um, The Jill Scott. Oh, when they start putting out the duets and shit. The duet. Like what was, I mean, that felt kind of just as a fan. I'm like, yo, this feels a little shady. But what was the story behind it?

The albums that they put out, the Hidden Beach records that they put out. It certainly didn't feel good to me. And it wasn't like I had anything to say. You know, I had no say-so in them. You know, so, you know, moving on. So technically, if we're a real, I'm just saying, I just want to know I'm doing this right. So technically if I'm a real Jill Scott fan,

I buy it up into the live album and then the rest of, no, that's all right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Wait, I like, you know, the son. Anyone.

I like, like, yeah, J.R. Hudson, that's my nigga. Like, he's fucking dope. I love that record. Yeah. Yes. You're talking about Crown Royal? Crown Royal. Imagination.

I love that song. And the song I did with George Benson, whenever you're around, I love that song. Like, I'm going to need somebody to call me because I just love what I love. I can help you.

I can help you. I can, I do, this is what I do. I mean, it's just battle rap. You know what I mean? What about the four hero song?

Y'all thinks you should include that in there because I do. I love that song. I was about to ask you about that because Mark Mack, that's my nigger. But I love that song. I love that song.

I love that song. I'm going to stay home. Man. I think the way you plan your verses is first off, you got to think of what the other artist's biggest songs are. And think about how you're going to counter that with. What you're going to counter it with? Yeah.

That's how you start. Okay. So if you already know her haymakers, if you already know her haymakers, then you know I, then what's what I can do. And you've got to think of your songs that you can use to pay.

My own haymaker. To get her to drop some bullshit. You know what I mean? But you've got to understand that I, I'm thinking about my audience, like the people that come to my shows. Like they know shit. They know shit.

And can't wait for that moment. But this though, I would say you can't think about your audience. You kind of got to almost think of the demographic that's going to be on IG live. And it may or may not be the same people. So it's like you got to think about it from the standpoint of like, all right. Because I was talking about this on Twitter the other day. It's like who picking a winner. and I put that in very loose quotation marks

because, I mean, we love both of y'all and so there's no... Thank you. You know, I mean, no one loses. I mean, this is a celebration. You know what I'm saying? The culture wins. The culture wins.

Yeah, it's for the culture. Word. I love the way the Risa and DJ premiere did theirs. I think that was my favorite one. It's all about not being Teddy Riley at Jill. Right now, it's all about not being Teddy Riley. And so what I want to say to Jill is because I don't know if she's aware, but you do know that Erica is up on her tech shit right now right like she's got her own streaming service she's performing in bubbles and shit like that and wait wait wait like the energy you bring right now is like instigating no no no no this is fuck I love both them I love both me I mean I'm my sister but I love both of the music whatever what I'm saying is that I just want her to understand who she's playing against because I don't know she's been you know paying attention she's been in her COVID world so I'm just saying that Erica's going to come with technology and do you think amir fontet bill Steve that Jim

She'll fight back with the simplicity. No. What should she do? Oh, yeah. Listen, all you have to do, Jill, listen, here's the thing about versus. All right. Here's the mentality of versus. And this is where Teddy fucked up.

Right. Here's our unsolicited corner. We're your corner people. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you need a cut man. Right. Yeah.

Okay. I'm not Freddie Pacheco out this bitch. Yeah. So listen, here's the thing. The thing that makes verses work, versus is all about. Yo, these rich niggas are stuck in their crib, looking at their phone just like us. That's what makes it work.

Like, that's the draw. The draw is we're looking at celebrities and people who have done all these great things. They're stuck inside their homes, and this is entertainment for us just as it is for them. I love how Ponte is making the same joint. I'm not fucking famous, dude. I'm just, I'm regular. But anyway, so that's the thing.

Hold on today, br. Hold on. Well, I certainly will. So the thing is, you can take it to your car. Like, you can play records in your car if you want to. Anything that makes it look more intimate and makes it feel more like the audience is... You're like us. Yeah, you're like us.

Yeah, do it in your kitchen. Yeah, do it in your kitchen. And that shit is going to be like, nigga, why are you in the bubble on a mountain top? You know what I mean? I have another thing to add to it. Sensing you might need... a quasi haymaker that isn't

below the belt I would actually have ah this is bad I say it I say that when she hits you I think when she hits you she has three haymakers

Tyrone's one of them I feel like on and on is one of them yeah the other side of the game now I was okay I was say I don't think other side. I think other side is one. I would say more so next lifetime. Like that's probably the closest thing. Right. Yeah. So my thing is when she hits with Tyrone, whatever you play next, I wish you had a TV track version of it.

And you sang it live. Here you go. It's too much. Too much. You're adding elements. Technical elements. She can see. She writes with paper. You're doing too much, bro. She's writing on paper. Bill said it. Paper. Yeah, they're doing, you doing too much.

People just want to see you drop the jams. They want to see you drop the jams. But I will say if you pick up your alleged teddy rottie guitar and just start saying, doing things with your voice outside of adding technical things. Because, yeah, but you will kill. That's a fucking haymaker. Your voice is the, I'm saying, but that's the thing. If she just, whatever device, if there's Fender Road,

if there's a Fender Road's version of, he loves me and she does that shit live. Oh, okay. You're saying, I will throw my phone right in it. No, because that's the thing. Like, because when I was doing, I kind of been doing like cards for all these battles. The thing with Erica. Damn, okay.

Erica has to survive Jill's first. If she can survive Jill's first album and Golden, she might have a chance. The only problem is that Jill, your first album, and I said this on Twitter, your first album is a fucking mind. field. Anything, you can drop something off that shit. She can drop the entire album. Nne. Like, for real. But strategically. You can drop honey molasses and just be like,

you know what I mean? Like, for real, for real, you know what I mean? So the thing is like the big ones you don't have to worry about Erica. Yeah, Amir is right. Tyrone is her haymaker. Tyrone, I think Tyrone be that on and on next light time. And Baduism, as much as Baduism is a classic and I love it. And I still, you know,

But Baidu is very top heavy. All the smoke is on side A. Like side B is, I mean, there's nothing bad on it and it's good. And it's good. You got me remember. Nah, naga, side A is where all, that's where all the smoke is.

That's where I smoke is at. But who is Jill Scott? Like, nigga, that run. The entire album. Nigel from one to goddamn slowly, surely, it ain't not one miss on that hole. So she better get a damn. So Fonke, let me ask you this.

What are the outside of album? cuts that Jill should be including in the version. Like, okay, this is what she, and okay. Does Jade, she asked. Nah, fuck, no. Don't play Dave. Don't play Dave, don't finish. You too, Bill, if you end up. Don't play Daydream. Nah, don't do Daydream.

Because, because to the audience, one, that wasn't like a, I mean, it wasn't a big record. Like, so it's like this. You okay with this show? And then you got jams. I'm listening. I, the best in the work. I, I, I have tried my best to stay out of all of this.

And so. Yeah, but you win it now. So this is the best thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you in the thick of it. Oh, better get a grip and get it on, that's my... Let's see your corner, Jill.

I love you. Look, okay, here's your non-album jam. All right, listen, you better hit them nigs that got them crying roy. We need that down. Because the thing is, hear my call, that could be a haymaker for you. Like, I think, if we're talking haymakers, like, golden, I think it's probably like the haymaker, like, you ain't getting up from that whenever you drop that. because that's just that was a monster record but don't waste golden don't know don't waste it

nah no no so you got to go hear my call you got uh crown royal you got rolling heels you got damn um uh what's on the second album um uh golden i like no no no but it's another what's the one um i like spring summer feeling i don't know if i would use it but i like that one uh whenever um yeah whatever whatever whatever my love is sweeter tighter like yeah nigger yeah you got bed. Better at home, Fonte. Don't sleep on bed at home. I did like better home.

I love better. It's terrible. Sweet summer feeling. I'm sorry, we're being real honest about your music right now. You're okay? You never wrote that. Oh, God. Really?

So in love. That's so in love. So in love. You got that. You got rock. So in love. Because here's the thing. Here's the breakdown.

And you can just use this information however you want. This is the thing with between, like, with Erica and Jill battle. So like, Erica is more so like your career Jill you've kind of leaned more

into like the adult like contemporary what would be like urban AC kind of lane Erica's records over the last couple years, her last few records, she's kind of gone deeper more just into hip hop and kind of being I think a little more experimental but the thing with that is it just kind of depends on demographics so to

the contingent of people that I refer to as the Ascot Battalion. you. Erica's last two albums yeah, the Roland Martin like them the Boolet niggas

yeah Erica's last two records didn't really connect with them like I think they don't know them they don't know like New America phone call you on

the fucking gone them niggas lost in the window seat from the video they know just but that's it but that's it but that's it

there's a lot of people in the world there's a lot of people listening period you don't know who's what It don't matter.

But for versus. But for versus, that's the thing. Right. It's the, it's one thing if we fight and it's, it's nigga. Yeah, I was going to say,

Jill, yeah, it's nigga. I'm sorry. And Bill. It's bigger. Because even Steve doesn't make an attempt. So I,

anyway, that's our unsolicited advice. Yeah. We will give Erica the same advice to. No. Just to be equal. Yeah. Because you,

like your catalog, you got, I think you have more in the tank than she is. And if you can get her to play her big cards early, I think you're just going to win just off being able to go to distance alone. I think Erica would actually try to play her eccentric cards. I don't think she'll play the obvious cards.

I bet you on and on won't even come until, like, Leighton, Leighton. Yeah. That would be smart. I mean, you know, but then, but what's she going to play before that? I mean, like, she's going to play Gone Baby, Don't Be Long, which I love that song, but, I mean, You're talking about one of my favorite artists.

Okay, but y'all battling. And I'm gonna battle one of mine. It appears to be the case. Where's the North Philly? Can I talk to North Philly Jill? Where she is? Hello? Listen, listen.

Listen, this is the right attitude. We don't want to, we don't even want to imply that we're leaning one way or the other. No, it's not a cat fight. I don't want to turn in. I just wanted to be an equal playing field is all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. That's what I'm. It's going to be a great.

We're here to celebrate both of y'all. If you start to sing in live and shit, it's a win. I'm just going to tell you. But the thing is, you know me, I'm really organic about all the stuff that I do. You know what I mean? Like, I want to be honest. And if it comes to that and I feel like, I feel like singing, then that's what's going to happen. Miss Sipia, it feels like singing.

That's right. Oh, I feel like singing. However. sang you know really be dirty you know really be there you know really be dirty what you sing an Erica song oh why you got to hold up damn a beer your Erica song what's on which one I mean I'm trying to think Erica would ever play a next lifetime she wouldn't if she's smart she will she better play that shit but certainly certainly oh you think Jill singing

certainly because that ain't a song technically so you can Certainly is not her song. No, I just meant certainly is a sample. I don't know you can't. I don't think you can't think that's. I'm bored. I'm in a house with with, with beams and in a call.

I'm like, what grace saying when you said he made that suggestion? Did she look at you crazy? Y'all looking for a war. She's a sleep. I'm looking for a celebration. No, we still.

It only is a celebration. I want to be clear. We're celebrating both of y'all. Oh, for y'all. It's not a war. Erthy. I'm not.

Erthy. She's hugging. I know you not. You hugging a tree right. Exactly. You hugging a tree right now. Hugging the trees. If you need help putting your playlist together, Jill, hit me up.

I will gladly curate, help you, whatever, like just as a fan. Because we all need it. Like, as a fan, as an artist, like, we have our favorites. But then it's like, okay, what resonated with the people? And sometimes that may not be the same thing. So if you just need an outside perspective, I gladly offer my services as cut man. Thank you kindly. And please.

Can I just add that I know. that y'all are friends and sisters and whatnot, but that don't mean that in this battle, we got to be like, sister, I love you, girl, I love you, girl, I love you, girl. I love you, oh my God, please don't love me to death. Stop calling it a battle. Oh, my God. Yeah, we just want one round of mutual respect.

Yeah, then let's go. That's baby face. You saw baby face, Jill. Baby face. I don't do remix. No, baby face. Well, keep it, baby face. He's shady face.

He had all the shade. He had all the shade. All right. So that's it for our unsolicited advice, too. Yes. Thanks. And we only do it because we love you. We don't mean to pretend this.

It's not a battle. I have Riley and a post game. It's a celebration. Yeah. It's a celebration. Yeah. You said one one round of mutual respect and then war. That's it.

Let's go. It's just, you know, make sure, make sure no one has their phones on using your Wi-Fi. When you do this, make sure everyone goes in the airport mode so that you're the only person using. What about that sound bite of the Black Party when it goes, Jill, are you, um, scared? Oh, come on, like, I'm just joking.

You can just, I was just saying, you can hit it, be like, you know, I'm just saying, okay, I was joking. All right, sorry, all right. Jesus Christ. All right. Jill, no, I, I love you, Jill. I'm glad that we had. You know what, you know what is weird.

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I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up-and-coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on... talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved.

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The fact is I need you. I could remember the second song. The fact is I need you because you said staying in polyurethane. Oh, no, do do do do. Nigger, you start with that, man. Come on, man, it's over. What? What?

What? Well, that was a hard-hitting hole right there, car. But you had no time for no hugs. You bet. I didn't even have a baby then. What? Yeah, you was doing things to make them. And Razul.

Yeah. I'm doing deep cuts. Anyway, Razoo. You would eat my shit. The one in Paris. is my favorite. Live in Paris, Rasul in Paris.

Yeah. That's my favorite. Yeah. Yeah. I love there. I love it. I wanted to go to Paris so bad. I had a residency there and at the Australian Opera House.

It was, it was happening. Wow. I was so excited. Damn, that's what you was going to do? What about movies, Jill? Were you going on, you was in the process of movie?

I mean, there was plenty of things. This was a good working year. we'll see what we'll see what happens later but you know on the other side of that coin this is there's a refresh you know there's a chance to refresh and and get our creativity back and and rest it's a big reset man is a and connect yeah i want to ask you um you're um we didn't talk about your role in the james rome movie um no get on up there so much What about it?

Getting her butt kick back. Yo, Nils-on. Was it a positive experience? Was it in terms of your growth as an actress? Like, do you feel that it was something that you, you know, you had to rise to the challenge or did it kind of feel like, yeah, you got a motherfucker to put his hands on you?

Yeah, like that was some real shit. You didn't see it, though. Wow. I didn't see the movie? No, you didn't. He didn't actually touch boy. You didn't see him touch me. I just made you think he did.

But damn, that movie actually is, this is the one I wish I could do over. I wish I could do that one over. Really? Yeah, I learned after what I should have done. And I'm disappointed by that. What do you think you did wrong? I should have punched him in his mouth.

I should have fought him. I should have fist fought him. him. Is that what she did? Yeah. Damn. I went with what was written. Okay. And instead, I should have, I should have fought him. And I'm disappointed. Like, I really wish I could go back to do that over. So I learned again about homework and how important it is to do the homework.

You know, so even if nobody else understands it, well, you want everybody to understand it. But you have to be, be that guy. If that's the general role is be that guy. I don't think I was that guy as much as I would want to be. So that's the only role I've had as far that, like, disappoints me. Did you think that not hitting him? Do you think that made the character look weaker? Or like, what was your reasoning behind it?

I thought that she was so in love with him. In fact, Dedy Brown is still in love with James Brown today. She was so overwhelmingly in love with him that, you know, that's the part that I highlighted. She was just almost obsessed with him, but she did have some spunk and some fight in her, and I wish she had punched him in the mouth. I wish I had allowed her, you know, in the film to punch him in the mouth. He deserved it. Yeah.

And it would have represented her a little better than what I did. So you talked and interviewed with her and got to know her as to develop? Yeah, beforehand. Was that on your own or like encouragement of the director in the production? That was, that was on my own. I, there was a young man working on set. I can't remember what he did, but he told me that that was his grandmother. And I was like, you got to, you got to get me in touch with your grandma.

You know, because they were on the newlywed game together. So I got a chance to see her ways. Wow. But I didn't get a chance to, they were? It's online. It's on YouTube, I think. I can't find this, June. Yeah, they wanted to meet him with the cards at least like they used to do in the 70s. They were real cute. They were real cute. They absolutely enjoyed each other.

But they fought. They definitely fought. And he was whooping ass. And I got it. Like, I got it. I could see how someone could totally be like in love with this guy and enjoyably suppressed. At the same time. He's powerful. He's powerful man. That ain't for me to deck. I'm bushing in your sleep. Any, any, for you, any thoughts of writing your memoir?

I think about it often. I think people would be completely surprised at how I got here. and how I am able to stay here. Yeah, I think about it often. There's a lot. Good God. Do you feel like the journey is still happening for you to even start writing your memoir? If I just wrote the first 15 years, if I just, I remember being in the womb.

If I could write, I remember being in the womb. If I wrote the first 15 years of this existence, it would be crazy. People would not believe any of it. It's half mythology and folklore with these brilliant sprinkles of simple. It's crazy my existence has been. You got to do. You have to do it like James Taylor. James Taylor worked backwards.

So he just released his life between birth and 21, like maybe two months ago. But, you know, started with the. end of his life once he like rehabbed himself and got his life together then the project before was like the hell he went through as James Taylor and then the real hell he went through from childhood to 21 that got him to be a heroin addict and all that stuff like him telling the story backwards almost is cinematic maybe telling your story backwards in that way from zero to 21 or I mean just in fragments because I think people feel like the need to to release their entire life story.

It's too much. I can do it. I could do it like Maya Angelou. Okay. She gave you bits and pieces. Goods and pieces. Yeah. I just did some pieces at the time.

It's funny we're having that conversation when we try to get like somebody's whole life story and like an hour and some chat. I didn't even start. So, but Jill, I thank you for doing this. And I thank you for having me.

Your artistry. And now we don't even have to call Jill. anymore for that's right I still think she needs to do like a drunk Hollywood I'm trying to say holiday episode or something like in person I just a drunk holiday episode we do those we do oh man

for Christmas yeah man listen I don't want no more drunk no cigarettes I'm getting my happy home no more drunk no more drunk I don't want no more drunk or other things you know whatever yeah we can make it an edible Christmas that's what we do too we do that that's something

Christmas. Nice time. Yeah. That's so mad. That's right. Turned upside down. Oh, man. That sounds like the same.

I just forgot. Last music question, I know you're going to. Jill, okay. It's a shame record. The A group. Yes. Who are they? Is that you under Nalius or are that another group of singers?

It was a group. Aren't they amazing? Yeah. Oh, God. I can't remember everybody's name. It's been so long. I know one was Keisha. Shit.

I feel. bad. The A group, they were singers that sang together all the time and Keisha Renee, Keisha Manette. And I heard them, I was like, would you mind playing with me? And they did. They were,

I just loved them. They were incredible. I can't believe I've forgotten all of their names. It'll hit me later in like, in the middle of them. Three, four. Three. It's three of them. Yeah. They just were amazing. They reminded me very much of

the emotions. And I, it's like, yes. And Aretha Franklin's background singers, you know, they had that, which I needed. Sweet inspiration. You know, since Fonte circle back to shame, I just want to say, you and Eve,

do y'all ever circle back and have these conversations of how y'all are so connected? How they survive the roots. I was trying to be politically. Okay. I was just, we did. Okay, okay.

We did. We shot with this ring together with Regina. Hall and Brooklyn, Saladano. And we had a chance to just kick it on, you know, kick it every day. So we talked about it how that song changed our lives. And here we are these years later. That's what I did, Amir. That's what I was inferring.

But Amir changes lives. That's what the roots do. I mean, without your guidance, I mean, shit. Stop, take this compliment, take this compliment, take this compliment, put that camera down. Without your guidance. your vision, you know, so many artists wouldn't have a career right now. And you've picked artists that all have longevity. Mm-hmm.

Including yourself. Well, when she did the video that was just like a long walk, I was over her. I was over. Motherfucker, that was your one lone mistake. But that's okay, because we forgive you for what you have blessed us with. Hold up. Now, what was just, just on? Yeah.

Yeah. We went to know her and not for Amir and Raphael Sadieck and Amir. If not for Raphael Sadeke and Amir. She did a video biting a long walk. She did? Exactly. Oh, yes. I was like, why?

Why would you do that? Shut up. Shut up. The one that you playing in the drums and the video. Oh, that's because at the time, my girlfriend asked me to be in that video because she was the director. Oh. Oh. Oh.

So now, take it back to that. Take it back to that. Yeah, I don't know. And wait a minute. And she was the director on with this ring. Wow. And she's a director on my new favorite show with Carrie Washington and Reese Ruther Spoon.

I'm watching that, by the way. Isn't it good? It's good. It's scary. I'm watching it. But it's scary. I'm watching it. I'm both of those.

Do you feel like you're both of those women? Well, if I'm lucky enough to be reading. All the time. I'll definitely feel Carrie's pain. But yeah, I see it. I feel like I'm both of them. And that's great, you know, just being able to relate. I can see that.

Both ends. I think it's really cool. I love that show. Don't fuck with their kids either way. Uh-uh. Don't do that. Don't do that. All right.

So for the fourth time. Yeah. Any last questions? No last. I have my. Any last? Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you, Jill. Thank you, Jill. Thank you, Jill. Yeah, that first album. I'm so proud of you. Thank you. It was, it was good time.

I've done. Like the crown of the day and wear my name. Unpaid bell. Yeah. I'm paid bell. Yeah. You all work together. Get her on Sesame Street.

You haven't done Sesame Street? She did. Yes, I've done Sesame Street. She did. She cried most of the time. Most of the time. Oh, so you work with her on pay bill. Okay.

I wasn't there. This was before my time. It was awesome. Bill's the music director. You got to get Jill back on Sesame Street to talk about being in the wound. Oh. That would be dumb. I want to hear all about it.

I saw. If anything, she could probably do the, we try to do a low, bread and stick of butter with salange and it didn't air at all bill it did it did it finally he signed the release yeah it's somewhere yeah it exists oh oh oh oh okay I got a watch that join I don't she's not gonna do shit that she's gonna do her own shit no that song's a staple low for bread container milk and a stick of butter stick of butter at the time I thought I thought salonge exinated so on Sesame Street. It was wonderful.

By the time Mr. Snuffle Luppa gets walked out, I just, I could not stop crying. I was, I could not stop crying. I was talking to, like they were real. What's his name? Jesus, I'm terrible with names. Kevin.

I was talking to Kevin, the guy who was playing Elmo. You got to play Elmo. Yeah. Yes. I was talking to the brother. We were just standing there rapping. He put Elmo on his hand.

I forgot the man was there. started hugging the man's hand in the puppet talking only to the man's hand. I forgot the man was there. That's how magical it was. Just like, boy, it was great. I got in the, I got in the nest. I got in the trash can.

I worked in the store. You got any trash can? I did it all. I hung out the window. I did it all. She survived Sesame Street. Amir, the 50th anniversary on HBO has it.

Oh, sweet. Okay. I got to see it. You think you, You think you'd get married again, Jew? Oh, shit. You think you will? Yeah.

Yeah. Is she joining us? No. She's coming into the compound. Oh, shit. You cannot fulfill. Big love, baby. Big love.

Big, man. You really think you can fulfill. Unpaid bill. Big motherfucker. Angel. Amir Hennrickson. That man living in the house of reclaimed wood. He living in his best life.

My here. Yeah. I mean, he eating it. He eating it. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf. of my Ea, Pontigolo, unpaid bill, and sugar-skine.

And my third wife, Jill Scott. Yes, Big Daddy. Not me. Hold on. Who the second one? Grace. Oh. Oh, son.

Who did that nigga, who the first one? I'll tell you after it goes off the air. Anyway. Change. Now, isn't that so great. I'm your third. wife. Ooh. It happens. Big love. Here we go. I'm living with us life.

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