The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: Jimmy Fallon

Episode Date: December 4, 2019

Host of The Tonight Show, and Saturday Night Live alum, Jimmy Fallon talks with Questlove about the joy of sleep, being raised on doo-wop music, making mixtapes, their favorite musical performances fr...om Late Night With Jimmy Fallon and The Tonight Show, plus some once-in-a-lifetime encounters with Prince and Stevie Wonder. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:21 the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed, I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe.
Starting point is 00:01:40 On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio. Ladies and gentlemen, we promised you all freaking summer that we'd be back. And I told you, I was told the next. never ever make a promise I can't keep yet still we're back and we're better than ever I've gotten rid of the dead weight no more boss bill and unpaid bill and sure Steve and like I'm kidding of course the family's still here but we're going to do a little bit different right now this is officially the return of quest love supreme shout out to our new family on iHeart
Starting point is 00:02:30 radio hello to our new our new listeners on youtube title apple Spotify wherever you Pete your podcast anchor. I will say that right now we are worldwide for the first time. A lot of you, we've heard your cries. Yes, we are officially worldwide. We're not just U.S. and Canada anymore. Another cause for celebration is our guest today. Five-time Emmy winner.
Starting point is 00:02:54 People's Choice Webby, Writers Guild, Critics Choice, and Grammy Award winning, which I try to make a word out of it, but it's just... Too many consonants. Exactly. about. Most importantly, our guest today is a comic student. He is a Saturday night live legend. Still the coolest late night talk show host and New York Times bestselling author. My bud, please welcome back to the return of West Love Supreme, James T.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Just call me Jimmy. Just call me Jimmy. Wait, time out. What the hell is T stand for? T is your middle name, right? Tiberius. No. Wait, I was like, what? Captain Kirk. No, no. T is Thomas. James Thomas, Fallon.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I never knew that we shared a route. Thompson, Thomas. I did not know you were Thomas. Okay. Do you have a middle name? You ready? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:55 So it's the pronounce, the way that you say it is, Khalib. Khalib? K-H-A-L-B. Amir Khalib. Khalib. Khalib, yes. Kalib, wow.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah, my parents were on some next-necks when I was born. Khalib? Caleb Thompson, yes. Wow. That's wild. Which made me all the more just wanting to have a question mark for my name all my life. That's what you want. That's the heck.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Exactly. But we went through your names once before. Like you've had, was it always Brother Quest? All right. So when we first, when the group first started, I was Oh God Just say it
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah you have to Dude that's we all came for somewhere Yeah man You all started somewhere I don't want to admit this all right Okay So Oh man
Starting point is 00:04:55 Just say it dude Oh man It kills me This is like therapy dude What All right When you first started My first name
Starting point is 00:05:06 Was a deaf dough money I want to do something that I normally don't I never I never do like rapid fire questions on this show like it's always like you know the conversation
Starting point is 00:05:22 yeah like oh so you were born in prola yes I know you're born in Brooklyn I'm pretty sure that everyone pretty much knows your backstory so this is a question I always wanted to start with what did you have for breakfast this morning I had pancakes
Starting point is 00:05:37 you have in syrup you cook them or you No, I had a meeting this morning. What time do you wake up? Man, I don't want to wake up, but the kids wake me up. It's insane right now. I have a 6-year-old and the 4-and-a-half-year-old, and they get in bed around probably 4 in the morning, usually.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Wait, what? I know, and I'm just like, dude, I got to sleep, but my wife. I don't want me showbiz, kids. My wife is like, no, no, they go to sleep at like 7 or night, but in their room, but then at 4 in the morning, they walk into our bedroom and come into bed with me and my wife. and just want to sleep in the bed with us. And I was like, we got to just tell them no,
Starting point is 00:06:15 and they've got to go back to the room. My wife's like, they won't do it forever. There's no, you know, 30-year-old kids sleeping with their parents. So, like, eventually they figure it out. She goes, one day we'll be wanting our kids to come in and sit in lane. So anyway, so they come in around four. I try to, I toss and turn until about probably seven, and then we wake up around 637.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Wendy's not at a school age now. Is she in first grade yet? She's in first grade. And she still wants to get? up at six in the morning? Oh, yeah. They got up at six in the morning. They play for like...
Starting point is 00:06:44 Like they're excited and they love it. They play for an hour, like all their toys. And then we brush your teeth and we have breakfast. We usually make them breakfast. But I didn't eat with them because I had to... But normally what I would do is... You know what I've been doing? Is the gross apple cider vinegar, uh, lemon hot water.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I love that now. You do? And I'm used to it. Oh, I'm still not used to it. It's like, honestly, painful for me. Really? The drink vinegar every morning? It sounds like torture.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Why would we do that to you? other or do you put a little bit of honey in it yes and it's still a hard it's getting better a little bit for me but i'm i think i was maybe i was putting too much vinegar in mine oh okay i was just drinking like hot vinegar it was pretty gross but but you do it every day i look forward to it you do yeah and i put cayon pepper yeah i do that and every now and then i throw that in there but i anyway so that's normally i would not have breakfast i would just have that but uh i had a meeting about the show today so i had to go order something to just be rude so your morning routine
Starting point is 00:07:41 uses starts at seven. Yeah. And then, because the thing is, is that sometimes, I'll say most of the time, unless we're talking about a sketch or some sort of, whatever,
Starting point is 00:07:54 the format of what we're going to do later, I'd never see you. So I'd never know what your morning routine is from nine in the, from eight in the morning till three or two. Yeah, because usually I'll say that I used to, probably up until like a year and a half ago, I used to go to bed at five
Starting point is 00:08:15 and then wake up at nine. But now I'm on a whole new regular schedule. Like this is the most regular I've ever been. And, you know, my girl won't allow me to go to bed at five. She wants it light till at 11 o'clock. Yeah. And no soul train on loop either. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I don't know why soul train. Yeah, because usually when I walk in and see, when I walk in to your studio, you got Soul Train on Lou. Dog, she asked me one. She asked me one like, maybe, I'll say like, I could probably do three episodes a week, a week. That's it. I used to do 300 a day.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Gosh. Like, it just used to be my jukebox or that sort of thing. I go to bed as soon as I can. I go, I'm one of those people now. I go out to dinner. If I go out to dinner with Nancy, I'm there at 5 o'clock. So you're like, I can't wait to go to sleep?
Starting point is 00:09:13 I love sleep. I started, ah, I hate, I mean, I'm afraid that sleep is, I feel like me is saying like, oh man, I can't wait to go to bed. Waste of time? Well, no, I just feel like it's me admitting that I'm getting up there. Like I used to be proud to like, ah, five days in a row, I've been up. I know, dude, we had, remember Grace Jones just came on the show, and she goes, I go, she goes
Starting point is 00:09:39 What are you doing tonight I go this is it I mean I'm going home I'm probably just gonna eat something Go to bed she's like Oh man I go you're not doing this She's like no I got a I got a show tonight
Starting point is 00:09:48 And then after the show We're going to some club I go you still got to clubs She's like yeah Oh yeah I go what time do you get home She's like I don't know Four or five she's like
Starting point is 00:09:57 I don't know what's wrong With this generation No I go to bed too early I'm like Grace Jones Still goes stays out to 5 in the morning Yeah I go oh my God
Starting point is 00:10:06 I wouldn't even know what to do I would have no clue. Well, yeah, I'm just, I love sleep now, and I hate to admit that I love sleep. That's the greatest thing. That's the one thing you can get me for my birthday or for Christmas or anything like you can get. Sleep? Oh, I would love sleep, man. That would be the best.
Starting point is 00:10:22 You got to, you know, there's coupon. One time I thought Tariq was joking, but he had these coupons made for like uninterrupted, no Tariq fixed this or dad, I need help with that. like that was his birthday gift like yeah yeah yeah I did that with my parents when I was a kid I made them coupons yeah or I'm like oh so they can leave you alone or I can leave them alone or help them out like you use this coupon whenever you want me to go like I'll you know watch the car I'll do whatever or I'll instead of just regular regular chores yeah exactly like that all right so you of course mentioned your dad's affinity
Starting point is 00:10:59 and love for um doop music oh yeah yeah we I grew up with it loved it What's the first single do you remember purchasing? Oh, man. Non-du-up? Or just in general? First 45? So, like, his record collection was your record collection? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I remember that, yeah. All right, so what was your favorite of his record collection? I remember trying to learn harmony to the song called Zoom. It goes like... Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Ditt-da-da-d-d-zoom, zone, zone, zone. Whoa, whoa, whoa. The same format.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I never heard that song in my life, but I knew what the song was going. So he would try to teach me and my sister to sing Zoom so we could harmonize and be like, you know, I don't know, the Osmond's or whatever. Which one were you, Jimmy Osmond or? I was Donnie, man. Oh, okay, Donnie.
Starting point is 00:11:58 No, I was Marie. But I was like, so my sister immediately was like, I'm out. I don't even, I don't get harmony. I don't like this. I'm out of the group. But me and my dad could sing. Glory the Rebel. Yeah, Gloria was the rub. So me and my dad could sing Zoom pretty well. And so that I was just, I would just start learning all these harmonies and then getting the trickier harmonies and trying to like, I mean, I just loved it. I just. So would he, would he go to all those like Dick Fox productions of like at Westbury Music Fair, duop stuff? Yeah, kind of. Yeah. I grew up in Sogaret's New York, which is upstate by King
Starting point is 00:12:34 in Poughkeepsie, Woodstock, that area. So there was a place called Ulster Performing Arts Center, U-PAC. Yeah. And they would have oldie shows there. And so I would go to see... My first concert concert was Weird Al Yankovic. But my first kind of venture into concert was with the whole family.
Starting point is 00:12:52 We went to a du-op show, and I saw, like... Oh, gosh. You know, I... Chances are it was a Dick Fox production. Yeah. Larry Chance and the Earls were there. Yeah. Remember, remember, remember.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I saw Joey D. And the Starlighters? Side note. All right. So, not many people know that Hendricks used to play in Joey D and the Starlighters. What? Yeah, Hendricks. Joey always tells that story, like, when I see him.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Joey D had a son that was in the Starlighters. It was my age. And so at one point in 1985, My dad had this idea like, okay, we're going to get Joey D's son, Gary U.S. Bond's daughter. But my middle name is Mr. Oh, right, right. His two nieces, my sister and I. It was like an eight kid group of all duop legends.
Starting point is 00:14:15 and they wanted to call it Ubi, the next generation. Oh. Like 1985. Like re-re-do-du-du-up called Ubi. I don't know if we were redoing du-op, but it was just a thing like, let's put a super group together of all like the legends. We did one session at the studio that's now,
Starting point is 00:14:36 that used to be Sony on 54th and 11th Avenue. So somewhere in their files in 1986, there's like a four song oldies duop demo from the legends of doop I think that was like my first studio session ever no way yeah was it a cappella was it doop or is it no we we play
Starting point is 00:14:58 like I drummed and see I could see that working but that's because I think I grew up brainwashed that doop was the only music out there they thought right right my parents tricked me as well because well my dad was in Vietnam so he would like he had these real to real tapes of him and his group on the ship singing duop so I always thought that Vietnam, everyone sang duop songs. And then I'm watching these movies. I watch Apocalypse now or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And no one's singing any duop. And I'm like, I'm hearing like the doors. And I go, what is this music? I know for a fact, people sang duop. And she turns out my dad was just like a nerd. Jimmy, no, we got tricked, man. We got a trick, right? Because in my first grade class, my first homework assignment was
Starting point is 00:15:39 bring in your favorite 45. the next day everyone came in with contemporary stuff. Andy Gibbs, I just want to be everything. Disco Duck. Rick Dees. Yeah, Rick Dees, all that stuff. And I came in with Why Do Fools Fall in Love? And my teachers were like, oh, this is from my era.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And none of the kids knew my record. And... Wait a second. Right, my teacher explained like, well, Amir, like, when I was your age, this is what I listened to. And I'm looking like, how come this isn't resonating with you guys? This happened to me, but it's such later in life. Yeah. I was like, I was actually in high school or college.
Starting point is 00:16:44 People do that now. I remember at one point, Kamal decided that he was going to make his kids think that Michael Jackson's off the wall was a brand new album. So I don't know kids that do that now. Like just put their kids in a time warp and don't listen. You know, there's nothing can do it. Yeah. Did it work? For a little bit.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Well, it's weird now because I'll say that of all the roots kids, Kamal's kids are the weirdest. Yeah. His daughter. Now, as of this taping, your grateful dead experience will be over. but Kamal's oldest daughter is, and she, I think she just turned 20, she's like a total deadhead. Like, she knows American Beauty. She went to college one year.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And then they just put her on to like the first four Grateful Dead records. Because she had all these quotes on her social media. I'm like, wait a minute, what do you know about Cherry Garcia? Dude, I think it changed my life a little bit. I've never listened to him at all. And I'm really into it. I dig it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:17:57 All right. I totally get it. And then Kamal's son is straight up country. What? Yo. No. I think your kids are going to be the total opposite of what you are, which explains it because even Kirk's son is into the hardest trap music of all time. Really?
Starting point is 00:18:21 Like when certain acts come on the show and Kirk's son doesn't show up, I'm like, yo, you didn't want to see da da da da da da da da you'd be like nah that's too commercial for me i'm like what like underground stuff he if it's if it's if it's too mainstream he won't he won't mess with i just realized i got to teach you when he had to dance because we went to this Halloween party and they're like first grader dance competition who wants to dance and she goes well i have to go dad it's first grade it's a dance competition i'm like do you really know how to dance and dude they played like everybody dance now and she just stood there and kind of like walked back and forth.
Starting point is 00:18:56 It was really stiff. And the dude next to her was like doing back spins and flips and like moonwalking and I was like, oh my gosh, my kid does not know how to dance. I got a teacher. Have your kids discovered YouTube yet? No. Yeah, it's like they got it. I mean, YouTube's a slippery slope because you don't want them
Starting point is 00:19:14 controlling like what the search option is. They were watching one thing and I just said, hey, maybe no more YouTube because it was no, it was like adults moving toys around and doing voices for dolls. That's it. dude and they were obsessed with this show and it's like any parent out there knows what I'm talking about it is the creepiest thing ever there's like a hand will hold like a Paw Patrol doll and be like hey what are you doing oh I'm bow and they play with dolls
Starting point is 00:19:38 and the kids just watch it like it's them playing with dolls and it's the it goes on for hours on a loop on YouTube and kids like it I don't know how they found it but they loved it and I was like oh dude we got to take this we got to watch something with the beginning middle end a plot anything you can watch any thing, but not this. What's it called? I have no idea what it's called, but I almost want to sue these people.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I was like, I don't like it. I don't want it in my house. No, you just got to show her a bunch of dance clips on YouTube. I don't even know how to play music for them because it's just like Alexa or, you know, show them soul train. I should. I got to get. Put it on, trust me, a good soul train clip, they will emulate it. That's how everyone in America learns how to dance. That's it.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yes, that's how they learn. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
Starting point is 00:20:57 One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told,
Starting point is 00:21:11 and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, Follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:21:32 There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all
Starting point is 00:21:57 dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target.
Starting point is 00:22:13 He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everyone, I'm Ego Wood. My next guest, you know from Stepbrose, Others Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network.
Starting point is 00:22:40 It's Will Ferrell. Woo. Woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up-and-coming
Starting point is 00:22:57 talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but they're so. much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right. It wouldn't be that.
Starting point is 00:23:28 There's a lot of luck. Listen to thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or we're wherever you get your podcast. Hey, do you remember the first mixtape you ever made for someone? Yeah, yeah, it was a big deal. How long did it take you to craft it? Oh, I mean, plusing play, record, and pause and having the record start up.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And it wasn't even a great mixtape, it was just my stuff, which is all weird stuff. And I would take, because I had this thing when I was a kid that I didn't, and you could ask my sister, I wouldn't let anyone copy my music. Why? Because I thought it would affect the record industry.
Starting point is 00:24:04 wait what because I must have seen someone talk about it on TV or something so I said you're going to ruin the record industry if you record a song if you take my song you have to buy the record you can't just take the song off of my record that I bought this is going to ruin the industry
Starting point is 00:24:20 and my sister was like you're the worst you're the weirdest kid and so I would have to take my music to the party I play my mixtape then I take the tape home I would own my mixtapes you wouldn't give it to no one no no shut up bill no one boss bill's on the other room like yes
Starting point is 00:24:40 i agree with you right right i wouldn't give it to anyone not even my sister i'm like man i was the opposite i feel i am spotify like the the the amount of work i don't have to do now in the age of streaming is mind-boggling because back when you had to make mix tapes and mix You'd have to listen to the whole song. I was the guy you had to come to make whatever. Like, I was the king of mixtape making. But you never made a mixtape for anyone. Well, I mean, I might have done, like, earlier because I remember I used to listen to the radio all the time.
Starting point is 00:25:18 That was like, I loved it. I had a boombox. And I try to think of the brand, the brand name of my boombox. I forget. I mean, I remember it in my brain looking at it. I used to listen to this radio station. I have play, record and pause, just there. just in case.
Starting point is 00:25:32 A song came on the radio? Ghostbusters was my jam. I was like, Ray Parker Jr., Ghostbusters, if I heard that... And you could get... I would run over and, like, try to record it. And I was like, oh, and then, like, I remember listening to another... Like, my dad would play radio, and I would bring the boombox over to his speaker so that I could record the song from his speaker onto my cassette player so I can tape it that way.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Like, if there was, like, a special Beatles thing, I was really into the Beatles at one point. Right. So I had those kinds of... type of mix tapes. And then I remember listening to Dr. Demento. Did you know him at all? That's how Weird Al got his start, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Okay. He's this DJ. What was the legend of Dr. Demento? He played novelty songs and novelty records. So any comedy song, there was a whole mess, a whole different. They don't do it anymore as much. But in the 70s, especially in the 80s, it was all comedy joke songs. Like that was the birth of Weird Al, but it was like Steve Martin, you know, doing King Tut.
Starting point is 00:26:29 That was like a charted that song. Oh, yeah. I had that record. Yeah. Disco Duck was a hit song, but that's a novelty record. All these, like, but do you remember?
Starting point is 00:26:37 So he would just play novelty records? Do you remember the coasters? They had that song, While driving in the Cadillac. What, da, it was called beep, beep beep.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And then by the end of the song, it gets faster. So it's like, um, da, da, da da da da da da da da da. Beep, beep, beep,
Starting point is 00:27:00 the horn went, beep, beep, and now I'm going on a hundred and a, so it was like a song about a race, but the song, it was not a real, it was like a novelty song, but it was a hit. Really? And it was, yeah, so all these songs, so he would play all these kind of weird songs like that and very, it was very more 70s than anything else, but I would listen to that Sunday nights and just try to record all these funny songs and then see if I could start writing them myself. So you write them down and perform him and school the next day? My first parody song I ever wrote was awful. What was it? What's your defto money? Oh, this is bad. Do you remember King Kong Bundy was a rapper? He's a wrestler.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah, King Kong Bundy. So I did, I wish it was King Kong Bundy instead of Maddoch Monday. Like, I wish I was King Kong Bundy. Oh, that would be a fun, whatever. And it was like, it was awful. And I remember writing it like, and I had my eraser, my paper mate, eraser mate. and like rewriting the lyrics I was like oh my gosh I'm writing like I'm gonna be Weird Al and that's what I and I remember writing it was just
Starting point is 00:28:07 I thought it was so clever and fun then I was too embarrassed I couldn't play it for anybody what year weird out did you see what period? It was a Dare to Be Stupid The Dare to Be Stupid tour I had a teal concert tea no sleeve concert tea
Starting point is 00:28:20 that's what I bought what was I doing I just I wanted to be you know this is pre-Zack Morris but I was like I would have that or gosh my wardrobe i was trying to be as fashionable as it could as a kid and you know grow up in sargities new york was this you and gerard together going to this concert or no was he
Starting point is 00:28:39 in a picture back then or droward was there he was but he was not no he wasn't he wasn't my best friend yet okay but now jurray he's talking about gerard bradford who works on our show as a producer but i i we we started hanging out more i'd say probably end of high school when we getting into the beastie boys and started like we had a bad we had a fake rap group that was terrible. What was the name of the group? We were called the Minuteman. And I don't know why. And not even knowing there already was a punk band called The Minuteman, we
Starting point is 00:29:09 were, we just thought, and, oh, I can't even tell you. It's, honestly, this is worse than Def Diff Doe. Dude, my name was Jim Hat. The room is exposed to back there. I was like, Jim Hat with that B-boy style. To the let me go wild. Dude, it was awful I thought
Starting point is 00:29:33 Jim hat What am I No Like that makes logical sense I wanted to be Colgate I thought that would be a cool rap name Colgate Yeah
Starting point is 00:29:42 Like I thought people could You know Have the logo on the shirt Like the toothpaste Do they still make Colgate? Yeah they have to right Is Colgate still a I don't
Starting point is 00:29:50 You know one day Like whenever I land in LAX The first stop I make is that I go to pharmacy To do the trial size stuff Like things I need Tooth toothbrush toothpaste And I was just noticing like
Starting point is 00:30:00 brands that only exist there well no brands that I thought were out of you know like safeguard or like prell
Starting point is 00:30:12 like 70s brands yeah camé they still they exist in trial size so what other what other concerts did you go to when you were
Starting point is 00:30:23 younger weird out I saw oh gosh it was at UPAC so There was that group that sang, ex-posé. Come go with me.
Starting point is 00:30:37 You saw an expose concert? Expoise, yeah. They had a song that was really, I loved it. It wasn't, come go with me, but it was. Point of No Return? Yes. To the point of No Return. Ah, oh, you're taking me.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Right. And they had seasons change. Seasons change. I love that song. I was a member of Columbia House. Me too. But I would never return the... All right, so for those that don't know what Columbia House is...
Starting point is 00:31:14 Oh, your kids, you missed out. If you... Yeah, this was our Spotify. You would basically... They will offer you 12 cassettes or CDs for a penny. You would tape... Scotch tape a penny. Scotch tape a penny to the order for them.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Pick your 12 CDs or cassettes you want it. And then... Then for an extra three, for an additional three records, you had to, I forgot what the check was, like, for $1.98 more. You can get three more. So you can get 15 altogether for under the low, low price of three bucks. Some of that, yeah. And then you were part of this club in which every month they would send you product. And you had, yeah, like two weeks to mail it back.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Not even, yeah, like something like that. Yeah, either liked it or mail it back. If you kept it, it was like 20 bucks a record. Yeah, if you kept it, it was definitely like 1799 or something like that. But if you mailed it back, and I think between that and the first two years of trying to catch Michael Jackson videos on MTV was how I developed my vocabulary for pop music. Because I would never mail back Debbie Gibson's out of the blue or, or Tiffany's first record. I think I got tricked into that one too, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I know. You know what? I think she thinks I'm being sarcastic. Like, I'm cool with her now. But in the beginning, I think in her mind it was like, what, you're trying to troll me? You're saying that you had my first. I was like, yeah, I had out of the blue.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I had electric youth. Electric youth, that was going on. I was named her first four. Right. I was like, no, I was a fan of yours. And she was just looking like, okay, where's the, where's the asking? No, yeah, exactly, right? She's cool, though, right?
Starting point is 00:33:10 She didn't believe it for the longest, but then I think she realized like, oh, you are a dwe. But every album back then, I loved it, even if it had, like, one hit song in there. I remember I was trying to, I didn't know what music I was going to be into. Right. So I tried every type of genre and going like, oh, maybe I'm into metal. Is it? Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I was like, dude, maybe I should, like, worship with the devil. And they're like, what am I talking about? I'm an altar boy. I think it's, I think the weird thing is that I think between 12 and 17, you're open to anything, which, you know, I can't, like, now I really have the patience to, like, sift through records and see what I'm into. And the way that I used to back in the day, like, I would listen to an entire Miami Sound Machine record, whether I like the song or not. too. Because you didn't want to go up to the cassette and fast forward. Okay, I don't like this song.
Starting point is 00:34:06 What else is, like you would just play the whole thing. Yeah, exactly. Like, yeah, I don't want to step to. It's easier to lift a needle and move that back. But no, I would listen to the whole album. Then I'd like the B-sides. I would know what song follows what song, too, in order. See, that explains why sometimes when an artist comes on and then you ask for the deep cut,
Starting point is 00:34:26 and I'm like, wait a minute, what about the hit join? And you're like, nope, I want the... Yeah, that's this. secret one that you go like, oh, like, if you buy Cindy Lauper, you sing she bop, you know, it's like that's the, that's the secret song off of, uh, right, the girl, uh, what's that? She's so unusual? She's so unusual. Right, right. Do you have a top five like performances on the show? For us, God, there's so much now. We've been done, we've done so many shows now. It's crazy. I mean, you, I have a top five,
Starting point is 00:34:55 I have a top five of me performing and a top five of me watching. Was one of your top five, Recently? Dog. Dude. Steve Miller? I almost, sometimes it's hard not to, because I'm so connected to music and the memories that it brings on.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Because whenever I hear fly like an eagle, I instantly think about the first month of school. And I'm thinking of like, my parents, not conning me, like, okay, we're going to take you to this brown building and you're going to stay in here for the next seven hours, and then we're going to come and get you at three o'clock. and, you know, like, I was just never explaining the concept at school.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It was just like, huh? Wait, I'm playing with them. And so I think during, like, one of those explanations, it was, the radio was just playing like Billy Davis and Merlin McCuse, you don't have to be a star. Oh, yeah. I love that. And then, like. Were you AM radio at this point?
Starting point is 00:35:53 It's FM. You know what? So, Philly was really good with FM radio. On the weekends, though, FM radio turned religious, and then you'd have to listen to AM radio. So we'd have to switch a Wizard 100. And the thing is, is that I lived in a don't touch my stereo household. So, again, a big part of my palate is the fact that I had to listen to
Starting point is 00:36:22 what my sister wanted to listen to and what my dad. I didn't control the car radio, nor in my bedroom that my sister and I shared. So, like, I just remember, like, I remember pressing, like, being able to press the button in my dad's car. That would be a plastic hard plastic button that you would actually switch the station. You would see the piece of plastic zip to the one side. Right. And I actually tune, I mean, this is pre-digital, you know, scan and seek for stuff. It was actually you press the button and you would feel like gears moving.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Right, to the radio station that you want to. Yeah, and I was like, oh, and I just. just to hope to hear like the Rolling Stones or something like that. And yeah. So fly like an eagle was definitely... Dude, you crushed that one. And I was like, dude, I actually had to look over to see what your face was doing. Because usually I can't see the drummer.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I was doing every... I had two moments in which I kind of had a... I might cry moment. It was awesome, dude. It was honestly, it just clicked. Because you did the first, like... Yeah, the space. I had to beg for those extra...
Starting point is 00:37:27 Because at first they were like three minutes and 30 seconds. you know and I was like, wait a minute, guys not for this one. You don't understand. Like, the most important part of the song is like the beginning. We got to do that.
Starting point is 00:37:37 So, it was so, oh, dude, I didn't want it to end. And he was having fun. Yeah. And he was having, and he was so, look at it, because, you know, we have these guys on that, like, they don't play with anyone else but their band. And they're jaded and they're like,
Starting point is 00:37:53 oh, well, look, it's almost feel like they're cheating on their band, but then when they see how much love and how much work you guys put into that song, like Eddie Grant. Oh, I forgot. He was so nervous. I know. He was so nervous.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Jimmy, I don't, I only play with my band. These guys are great, but I don't know them to play with my song, you know, Electric Avenue. And so he goes, do you remember you brought a harmonica? Yes. Oh, did you, wait, when we're sound checking, are you watching on close circuit? Sometimes I'm watching. Oh, damn it. Sometimes I am, but sometimes I'd like to be surprised.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Doing sound check. It was like a 10-minute version and we're like looking at each other like. He was like paying the harmonica to an electric avenue. Like, who is to blame? And I was like, dude, stop playing. So I saw him and he goes, yeah,
Starting point is 00:38:43 I'm just going to bring this just in case. I go, Eddie, you don't need a harmonica. The roots will got you covered. Trust me, man. It's going to be fun. And he did the song, didn't do harmonica. And it crushed. It was great.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And I went over to say, thank you for being on the show. I went to shake his hand. And what was in his hand? that harmonica yeah just in case you know what it is it's also like a big part
Starting point is 00:39:05 I'm always nervous about the legend because one you don't want to ruin like the thought in your head of like what's it going to be or what's it not going to be it's just that sometimes all right I'll admit we had one
Starting point is 00:39:20 guest that walked away do you remember yeah Cindy yeah yeah yeah it's because I think okay in our minds in their minds it's like okay
Starting point is 00:39:34 I'm gonna play with the roots so they think like I'll take my song and filter it through and I'll rootify it like that's the one word I we hear the most inside the rehearsal room like you know don't don't do the normal version like rootify it no and I'm like dude what you don't get is that us rootstifying it
Starting point is 00:39:52 is doing it just like your album version that is roots fight because we we want the I mean we want the exact same We want Eddie Grant to go, out in the streets. It's like, if he, if he, yeah, he doesn't want to do that anymore. He goes, I don't do that. I haven't done that for 25 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Bring it back. That's the part of the song that we love those little nuggets, those little, those awesome little eggs, those Easter eggs where you're like, oh, no, that's the one part you got to do like. Right. Like on the dark side of town. Yeah. I was like, you didn't do that. And he was like, uh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:21 When we have, it was a crowded house or something came on. I'm like, all I want to hear is that bass. And I go, do do. If you don't hit that bass line, I need that, it's part of my whole thing of loving that song. It's like, but we usually hit it, like, 99% of the time. Right. We convince the people who are like, come on, you got to do that part.
Starting point is 00:40:42 And like, oh, I don't hit that note anymore. It's like, yeah, but try it. Just go for it, man, because trust me, we'll get your back. And then they do it and it scores. Well, probably the one humorous moment for us was definitely in the air tonight where that was the only time I saw you being nervous dude twice twice in my life I've talked myself into major sabotage I was I wasn't helping though like I well see I didn't know about meditation back then what I should have been doing was basically deep breathing get out of your head just hit
Starting point is 00:41:14 these three times the way you've always done it all your life in the basement and for some reason right when Phil Collins is like and I remember and I was like don't mess up don't I remember, don't worry. All right, don't fuck up, don't fuck it. How could I ever? I'm looking at Jimmy. Jimmy's looking. The first time.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I went from behind my desk to the front to look at your face. I know. And I'm looking at the bandstander for the Roots members. It's coming. Silence up. Oh, boy. Don't use it fool me. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Camera 3 is looking at me. The hurt doesn't show. And look at the pain still grows. Sustainers a view to me. Here comes. And I hit that symbol. and was just drop a stick or something
Starting point is 00:41:58 no my my ride symbol oh yeah it fell it fell down dude it was the best my ride symbol fell
Starting point is 00:42:09 so the thing was it collapsed broken pieces I was going to let it slide and just be like ah I'm going home I failed and then shout out to sugar Steve
Starting point is 00:42:18 Steve's like no man I can't let this happen we're going to fix this and I was like well we can't go back and tape it like it's over And he says, I bet you they have sound check on tape.
Starting point is 00:42:28 So we basically spent at least an hour editing. Paul Simon. Oh, God, you remember that? He was there until 5 in the morning. We're the only show that gives that autonomy, like gives that power to, yes, to come and edit their own thing and mix their own thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Any other show, like, I've done Letterman, where I'm like, okay, so we want reverb or in verse 2. It's out already. And they're like... It's already in Burbank. Can't touch it. Right. They're like, nope.
Starting point is 00:42:58 That's gone. That's done. It is what it is. We let everyone like go in, listen to it and mix it. But usually we have the right sound between, you know, we have the best sound. I feel like we have the best sound mixing and engineering. Yeah, that Paul Simon stayed up until right before his segment, which is unheard of, right?
Starting point is 00:43:17 We were nervous because we got to deliver the show. And this is when we were doing 1235. Right. So we had an extra hour. but he was like, I think it was up to like, it was actually up to midnight. Right, it was right two commercials before he was actually coming more. He spent, we taped that five or six? Right, and he engineered it like it was a real song.
Starting point is 00:43:39 For five hours. It must be the best engineered song of all time. I don't even, I kind of remember what it was. That wasn't the one with Stomp, was it? We don't even remember it. That's the thing. It's just, now I've got to go back in the archives. But he really spent the time.
Starting point is 00:43:53 time on that one. But then back to the Phil Collins thing, because you ended up nailing it on when you see it on TV. Oh, man, a pack a lot. Yeah, that to me, that was a moment. I mean, I love that. I love Jim James. I was from late night. I love that. That's right. He did another
Starting point is 00:44:13 life. All of his presentations. Whenever Jim James comes on. I also liked when you guys come on, when the roots come on, and we spend extra time like making a production and it's actually it's almost like a music video or a musical yeah musical yeah my three moments from that i don't know why once i realized that we had a lot of i didn't realize the power of how david is as as a director dame de medic and and and directing and doing tricks and all those things so i thought like i wondered how we could pull off a song that makes us
Starting point is 00:44:50 look like we're playing in slow motion. Like the Beastie Boys always do. Yeah. Like, so what you want video was like the, the impetus of it, like, of them performing and you hearing the song in real time, but it's like them doing it in slow motion. So when Usher was on the show, yep. You know, I knew it was going to confuse the audience. Like, we had to do that Usher song like Chipmunks.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Dude, it was like, and he's dancing really super fast. And he caught, and he was dancing. That's the thing. I thought, like, do you need to practice this? Like, do you need to figure out your splits and everything? It looks so weird. And so you're almost laughing at him. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:27 But then when you watch it, it was... Oh, it's magical. Dude, he's like slow motion doing the perfect dance moves and singing on the right key. Singing exactly. Right, yeah. It was insane. That was a cool moment. Yeah, the second time Tyler, Tyler they created did See You Again with Cali Uchus.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And he created this... It was almost like a surreal musical, but it's... to me, that was like a moment. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th.
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Starting point is 00:48:09 My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day. And I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through. And I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:29 He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah. It would not be...
Starting point is 00:48:54 Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Dude, we have to talk about Prince. There's two things. There's so many... Yeah, for me, the best part of the craziest memory is definitely the ping pong moment. A ping pong story, but it even goes on before that.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Do you remember bring me on stage at the Garden? Oh, Madison Score Garden. So Chris Rock comes on and he goes, he goes, blah, blah, he goes, well, of course, Prince is my favorite concert. I've never seen him. He goes, never seen Prince? Like, you love music and you've never seen Prince in concert? What are you talking about? How could you even say that you're a fan of, what do you?
Starting point is 00:49:42 I can't talk to you until you see Prince. All right. And so, I go, all right, I got to go see Prince. And you're like, dude, I can't believe you haven't seen him. So anyways, I go to the garden to see Prince And he is unbelievable He really is I remember Madonna was at the concert
Starting point is 00:49:56 In the audience watching Prince Just stone face just going like Wow I gotta up my game He's just so magical And she's great too Yeah He was so he's crushing it And Prince's manager
Starting point is 00:50:07 Or whoever this was Came up to me and said Yeah hi I'm Prince's manager I don't even think it was Kimeron was someone to say like Prince would really love you To get on stage at the end of the concert And dance with him
Starting point is 00:50:17 Like he gets a bunch of celebrity friends and to go on the stage and dance with him at the end. I go, ah, it's not really my thing. I'm not really a big dancer, but thank you. So I'll just watch the concert. Next song, someone else comes out. I was like, hi, how you doing? I work for Prince's management.
Starting point is 00:50:30 A different person. Yeah, different person. They go, Prince would really love for you. I go, yeah, I don't think so. I mean, I was not really my thing. And I don't even think he really wants me to dance with him. Anyways, so that happens to me maybe two more times during the whole concert.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah, they're relentless. End of the concert, I'm like, I see you. Because I didn't see you for the whole concert. I go, what's up, dude? and you go, I'm going to get on stage at the end of the concert. I go, oh, if you're getting up there, I'll go up with you then. So they go, all right, so you get up, I get up, you go behind a drum set. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:55 And as I get up, you get behind a drum set, Prince leaves. His key, he's on a keyboard, and it goes, sinks into the stage. And I could see him down there almost getting in his limousine right there. And I'm like, and I'm looking around, there's no one else on stage dancing. But me, it's just me dancing. And I go, oh, my, this is exactly why I don't say yes to this stuff. So I think it kind of started there. And then when Prince came on the show, it was always fun.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Right. So Prince came on the show and probably is Kieran, his manager. Yeah, yeah. Says, hey, Prince would really like to play ping pong on the show. So we go, okay, we don't really play ping pong. We play beer pong. But if he wants to play ping pong, that's fine. Then he calls back and he goes, you know what, Prince does not want to play beer pong on the show.
Starting point is 00:51:38 He doesn't want to play ping pong. We go, okay, whatever. He just come on and play music as long as he has fun, we're good. He calls back. he goes, Prince does want to play ping pong. He rethought about it. He goes, okay, we'll have it ready to go just in case. Calls back, he goes, he wants to play ping pong,
Starting point is 00:51:55 but he doesn't want to play it on camera. He wants to do it. And I go, what's your obsession with? He just thinks Jimmy would be fun to play ping pong with. I go, whatever, we'll have it ready to go if he wants to play backstage, whatever, man. So he comes on the show, never brings up ping pong. It doesn't even mention it.
Starting point is 00:52:11 All right. Just comes on, plays, he's great, and he leaves. and it was a great show and it was awesome I go that was interesting so I tell the story on the show about the whole ping pong thing and I go by the way Prince if you're watching
Starting point is 00:52:22 I would probably kick your ass in ping pong or something like that just joking around so then I think that week I'm at the dinner right so this is the rare night no this is when Winnie
Starting point is 00:52:34 was winning was being born so I get a call it was around that time I just remember like it was any moment you know what I mean and I get a call at 10 p.m. Now, I think I was sick this night
Starting point is 00:52:50 because this is one of the rare times I was in bed at like 10.30 p.m. Yeah. On a school night or whatever. And they're like, Prince wants to play Jimmy now at Susan Sarandon's ping pong spot. Yeah, spin.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Spin. And I was just like, oh, man, you know, he's about to have a kid, da-da-da-da. So, yeah, I'll let him know. And then like a minute later, they're like, well, he's, you know, he's down to do it right now if, you know, available. And I was like, oh, maybe I didn't get the message. I was like, no, no, no. Jimmy's about to have a kid.
Starting point is 00:53:29 So, yeah, it might, you know, it might be busy or whatever. And then a minute later, says, okay, well, just name the time and place and, you know, he'll be there. I'm like, oh, they're just not listening or not taking a note. for an answer. Yeah. So I was like, I'm not going to answer this. So I went to bed for like 20 minutes. And I opened my eyes and I was like,
Starting point is 00:53:51 I don't know, let me at least tell Jimmy. So then I texted you. I said, hey, Prince wants to play you in ping pong. So I had no idea of this whole exchange that you just went through. I said, for some strange reason, he wants to play in ping pong at Susan Sarandon spot. And I told him that you're tired of with baby stuff. So anyway, just passing the message along.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Cool. I had no idea that you were going to answer that message. Yeah, because I was out to dinner that night. Okay. Because it wasn't yet, it was close to when... It was close to it. I knew any moment. It was any moment.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I had to be on the ready for Winnie to be born. But I was like, out to dinner that night, I'm like, what? And then I got a text from his manager or something. So you gave him... Did it happen that night or the next night? It happened soon. I think it happened that night. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Because I got a text from their manager. Right. And saying like, hey, this is Prince's manager. Prince is at Spin. He wants to play you in ping pong right now. So I go, it's the weirdest thing. I go. So I told him the first time I'm having dinner with him, like, all right, I got to go, man.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Prince wants to play me in ping pong, and I'm going to go meet him at the Spin at Susan's Club. So I leave, you know, get in a cab, and I go down to spin, I go out. I go into the door, go down the steps, and there's a girl working there, and I go, hi, I'm here to see. And she goes, Prince? He goes, yeah. She goes, he's right behind the curtain.
Starting point is 00:55:17 He's in the private room over there. I go, all right, so I go, and there's a velvet. There's a velvet rope and a curtain. And I go past the rope and I open the curtain. And he's, Prince is standing there in a crushed blue velvet suit. We're in the high-heeled shoes. And he's holding a ping-pong paddle. And he looks at me, he goes, you ready to do this?
Starting point is 00:55:41 And I go, oh, my gosh. I go, I guess so. Sure, you go, you want to warm up? I go, yeah, I warm up a little bit. Like, in my head, I don't even play ping pong. Right. I don't even know what he's talking about. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:51 So we start warming up a little bit. I think he had two friends in the room. He goes, everybody leave. Everyone go. So it's just me and Prince. Right. So everyone had to leave the room. So just me and Prince, nobody else.
Starting point is 00:56:02 And I goes, all right, you ready? I go, let's start. So he hits the first. He's like, hits it over, and it goes, and it just, it was a good shot. And I didn't hit the back. He goes, one's it. I go, oh. You're going to talk smack already?
Starting point is 00:56:14 This is going to happen for 21 points. Let's do this, man. Let's go, Prince. So I go, so we start playing, you know, hitting back and forth. He's crushing me. So I think now it's like 20 to 10 or something like that. He's killing me. And he goes, game point.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I go, let's go, man. And he hits his shot. And it's like, beautiful, perfect shot. And the pink stone's spinning. Flames coming off it. And it hits that corner of the table that's just impossible to hit the ball. You know what I'm telling? Like the perfect shot
Starting point is 00:56:44 and went flying behind me and I go Ah, you won, you won. And I go and I'm looking in the background trying to find the ball and I pick up the ball and I turn around and he's gone.
Starting point is 00:56:58 And he's not there and I don't know him that well so I thought maybe he was hiding or something. No. So I'm like, Prince? Prime Prince. Prince?
Starting point is 00:57:06 So I'm like looking under the ping pong table like there's security footage I look like a crazy. I was like, is he hiding behind a curse? I don't know him. I don't know his type of sense of humor. He's funny, but I was like, but then I look and kind of the rope is kind of moving, almost like Batman.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And the door is swiveling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The wind. So I go, to the girl, I go, did he? She goes, yeah, he left. I go, okay. So then I went up and up to stairs on the street. So me being notoriously late for everything, I got back from a DJ gig and got your text
Starting point is 00:57:42 that's about to play Prince right now. I'm on my way over. So I drive to Manhattan to spin, get out the car, and I forget who from the show was outside smoking a cigarette, but I run. And I was like, am I too late?
Starting point is 00:58:01 Am I too late? And she's like, wait, you just miss him. That was him. And I looked in the street, and in the SUV, he was there, and pulling off to a red light. I was like, hey on, wait!
Starting point is 00:58:15 And I run... And straight up, gray Poupon style. I'm like knocking on the door. And the window rolls down slowly. I was like, wait, it's over. It's over. What happened? And seriously, he's like, ask you boy.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And then the window goes slowly up, just like the Grey Poupon commercial. It just takes off. And it... takes off. The only thing I noticed that he had the paddle with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:47 And it was a gold paddle. And later did I learn that he is that obsessed with it. We did a show with him in Carousel. We, I'll rephrase that.
Starting point is 00:59:00 We were supposed to do a show with him. We showed up with him. There's the weirdest lineup ever. Dinah Ross. Toto. Los Lobos. What?
Starting point is 00:59:10 Dude. Dina Ross. Who booked this? God. Diana Ross, Los Lobos. Tell us you see this. Toto. Journey.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Oh. Prince. What? The Roots? Bravo. And Carousel. And he was supposed to do a three-hour set. Then the Roots, right?
Starting point is 00:59:35 Yeah. No. Friends don't play that. Prince is wound up doing a five-hour set. I'm going to say. And no roots. we like defiantly like we still don't you know trying to like yeah we still gonna perform and we did like one and a half we just stopped the song like all right
Starting point is 00:59:51 y'all want the seed okay we'll just do the seed and go home yeah it's like this point two in the morning no the place holds like 8,000 people I swear to god it was like 35 people yeah they all split once prince left like we just thought like y'all the seed okay okay then no but what's the one the the DJ night with prince remember that that one that one Yeah, it was he, he, that's the best story ever. I love that one. I was, okay, so I was on, I was on a blind date. And I wanted to appear cool, to be cool.
Starting point is 01:00:28 And so I asked this, you know, like, I got tickets to Prince. You want to see it. And I had 10 tickets. And me not thinking, I invited. I said, oh, I got 10 tickets. So I invited 10 of my friends. I never counted myself as one of the 10. So when we get there, it was like, here's your ticket, here's your ticket, here's your ticket,
Starting point is 01:00:53 here's your ticket, here's your ticket. And I was like, nine. And this is beyond sold out. So they're in, and I had the number of his assistant. And so I'm like, hey, I'm on a date. And I forgot to buy myself a ticket. So I had to explain the whole. thing. And she's like, yo, man, like, no one can get in, like, you know, Reverend Al Sharpton was
Starting point is 01:01:18 trying to come down. Spike Lee was trying to say, please, anything. Already you're in trouble. So he just happened to be in his own custom golf cart in Philly, doing like 40 miles an hour in a golf cart, like not doing donuts, but like that sort of thing. And I was just like, oh, just tell him straight up. I said, look, I made a mistake. Da-da-da-da-da-da. I had 10 friends. I I forgot to include myself in the 10. Can I sit somewhere, please? And he was just like, all right, cool. You can sit on the stage, under the stage.
Starting point is 01:01:51 So the way that that stage is designed, like his name, like it's a 13-foot-tall stage. And so I'm literally sitting under the arrow that is his name. Meanwhile, my date's like sitting with my friends in the audience. But I'm sitting like under the stage. And mid-show, his assistant comes by and says, Prince wants you to throw him apart. party. And I was like, I have no resource, like right now. He said, yeah, tonight. And I was like, well,
Starting point is 01:02:20 well, I would have to, yeah, you can use our phones. But I'm like, I'm going to miss the concert. And now I'm like, oh, I'm working for Prince now. So I'm like, leaving my concert going into, you got to throw them a party. Right. So I called my friends who I normally do parties with in Philly. I was like, look, Prince, oh, wait, hang on a second. He wants what? Pool table. Okay. Hey, Prince wants to do a party tonight. So in like four hours, can you find me a spot?
Starting point is 01:02:53 They said, we found a spot. I said, okay, now he wants a pool table. They're like, well, this is a five-story walk-up. Can't carry a pool table? And I was like, please, can we please just make this happen? Please, please. So they had to find a detachable pool table to carry up five flights of stairs. So then
Starting point is 01:03:12 I rush home, get my records ready Get there You know, Prince is like a late party So this party's not starting to like 1.30 And it's 10 of us And we're inside And basically he wants to control the door And you know
Starting point is 01:03:27 There's a whole grip of people waiting outside But inside there's only like 70 people Club should hold about 300 Anyway so I'm playing like a bunch of like Fala you know West African him funk music. And I'm thinking like, okay, I'm going to educate Prince on Faylai. He likes James Brown. He likes George Clinton. I'm play the
Starting point is 01:03:46 original, you know, West African god of funk and he'll be into it. And Prince wasn't into it. He's just like, what else he got? I was like, okay, I played another Falai song. What else he got? I said, damn. He's like, play some of your music. And I was like, I'd never play the roots in the club. Like, I'm just scared to do that because it's instant club. So, I'm failing and I'm 25 minutes in and his assistant walks up
Starting point is 01:04:12 and says here, play this and she gives me a DVD and it's finding Nemo and I was like the movie. Yeah, the movie. Not the soundtrack. The actual movie. And I was like, wait, what do I I don't, uh, there's not a DVD player here. She says, oh, she comes
Starting point is 01:04:34 back, gives me a portable DVD player. I was like, well, I say it's a nightclub. They don't have a... His engineer gives me, like, the chords. I said, yeah, but there's no projection. There's a projection screen. So suddenly, I put this thing on, but I'm still DJing, so I figured like he just wants the visual of, like,
Starting point is 01:04:54 the fish playing in the background. Yeah. And then they come around and they're like, no, no, no, no. Can you turn the volume up? I was like, wait, we're in a nightclub in Philadelphia. He wants to watch Finding Nemo. And he said, yeah, just, you know, just kill the music and put it. the thing up. And I was like, oh no, you only set me up. So I got the opening DJ guy.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I said, look, in about five seconds, do the transfer and put up the, so suddenly we'd go from like this, this funk music, talking about protesting the government in Nigeria to suddenly like Ellen DeGeneres's voice. He just wants to watch Finding Nemo. Yeah, and it was like, it didn't affect nobody in his crew. Like, this happens all the time every day. And I'm just sitting there dejected. No one has this story. No one has this story. That is the greatest. I just sat there like
Starting point is 01:05:44 you know dude like you're playing Finding Nemo in the club like popping bottles in a and you remember the club back in like in 2004 like it was sexy back then. Nah, he won it. We were watching Pixar in
Starting point is 01:06:00 the club. Are you The club. Did you read beautiful ones yet? Yes. I read it. And it's, ah, man, it makes me so sad. Like, he wrote that. Normally when people write books, you do it with a collaborator. Like, with me, it was like going back to school, like chapter for chapter. Like, my guy would say, like, okay, write about the first time he brought a record.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And then I write something, and he goes and, okay, it's run on sentence, whatever. Or traditionally, you just do a 20-hour interview with someone and then they write the words in your voice. But he wrote that book. He only wrote 30 pages, but it revealed so much about at least up until the age of four, which could have been. But he took a lot of photos. So there's a lot of unanswered questions about his childhood. Maya Rudolph is really going to love this book because there's, I guess, if Instagram were out back then, Prince would have been on. Instagram instead like he just kept
Starting point is 01:07:08 photo books of all the albums he made like the process of making it like my breakfast my engineer sleep on the couch again so there's a there's a picture where he Prince is driving down sunset and there's a big giant ad of Minnie Riperton's new album
Starting point is 01:07:25 stay in love like on sunset Boulevard and Prince is waiting at a red light and flash takes the photo it's a perfect shot like this would have been his iPhone back in 1977 and the caption was like, this woman could cause a car crash. And I was like, oh man, Maya Rudolph is really, really going to love that.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Wow. Did he ever know that she loves him that much? Oh, definitely. I think. Yeah? Because he talks about, even though he only covers the first four years of his life, he often jumps to modern references.
Starting point is 01:08:05 So there is a mental. of him watching the Darling Nicky performance. Really? That is also in my top tip. That and Stevie Wonder. I was trying to figure like what else. Do you remember my Stevie Wonder story with you guys? Remember I opened for you guys in Atlantic City?
Starting point is 01:08:23 I hate you for this, man. I open for the roots in Atlantic City, and we get there and someone forgot James' keyboard. Yes, we forgot James Boyce's keyboard. How do you forget an instrument to a... We renew... He forgot his key
Starting point is 01:08:39 So we get there and James was like I do my set I came back and I go James what are you doing? He's like they forgot my keyboard I'm just gonna watch I go oh he's like Do you want to get a tequila?
Starting point is 01:08:48 I go sure So we get a drink And then somebody comes back And they go hey Do you guys want to meet Stevie Wonder? I go what? He's here. He's also playing a different
Starting point is 01:08:56 venue I go oh let's go So we run over to see Stevie You leave the roots and then run See Stevie and see Stevie Wonder And I go what do you uh it was only like maybe it was a meet and greet with like 10 people he does this every time and it's 10 people and i go uh hey stevie jimmy phallon and james like i'm from the roots
Starting point is 01:09:16 blah blah blah and i'm the biggest biggest fan i start going through all his bits and i start going like ebony and ivory and then he starts harmonizing with me together and the harmony you bastard man dude so then james starts playing the song on on stevee Stevie's other piano. Right. So then Stevie, James, playing piano, and I'm harmonizing. With Stevie Wonder, we sing perfect harmony, Ebony and Ivory, dude. Dude.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Jumping up and down, like, what is just happening? Like, all right, love you, buddy. I talk to you later. We split. We were backstage. We throw down a couple more drinks. We watched you guys, your last song. You finished the set.
Starting point is 01:09:55 You're like, oh, it was pretty good. What did you guys do? We go, well, I can't. I can't wait to tell you what we did, man. You bastards. Dude, we can go on forever with these stories, but both of us have day jobs we got to report to. We do. I know.
Starting point is 01:10:11 We're just going to finish this conversation on way back. I really want to thank you for helping us. Well, first of all, for everything you've done for me personally. No, seriously, dog. Like that was, I always joke that, not even joke, because everyone asked, like, well, how did you guys manage to do the show? and I always tell them that we were prepared in the nicest way possible to say no because we don't want to burn a bridge and be like, okay, when we have a new album out, we can come on said show.
Starting point is 01:10:44 I said, but then you disarmed us in literally 10 minutes, which no human being has ever done. I mean, we've had the finest of women, the finest of models, the biggest of act. I think there was a point where we were supposed to go fishing with, George Clooney at one point. Like, that's a typical backstage thing. Like, George Clooney was like, hey, we're going fishing tomorrow, whatever. And like, we're so standoffish as a group.
Starting point is 01:11:15 And literally in 10 minutes, you had us doing a human pyramid. The 8 is enough human pyramid. At UCLA. And only because Tarreek was on the bottom row, who, you know, his clothes are so expensive. I was like, Tariq is actually getting his job. Japanese denim dirty. And I looked at Rich like, we're not getting rid of this guy anytime soon or he's like, nope. You knew it right there.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I couldn't figure out what you did to disarm the roots in 10 minutes flat. And I was like, oh, this is the next stage of my life right here. I'm watching it. But yes, I want to thank you for that. And also thank you for helping us with our new, our, I'm about to say jump off like it's 2008. our new jump off on iHeart radio thank you very much thank you by the way for changing the whole game and honestly it wasn't for you we wouldn't be i wouldn't be where i am so really thank you another 25 years of magic let's do it yes yo on behalf of the team supreme who's tied up in the
Starting point is 01:12:18 room next door boss bill unpaid bill fontigolo uh laia i love you laia anyway i heart you yes we are i heart oh and sugar steve yes i forgot about sugarstead You can forget about him, though. No, I did that purpose. Steve knows I love it. Anyway, this is Questlove. We'll see you on the next go-round. What's Love, Supreme.
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