The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: Organized Noize Part 2

Episode Date: December 14, 2022

Part 2 of Questlove Supreme's Organized Noize interview in Atlanta continues with a discussion about OutKast's progression as producers and the dispersing of the Dungeon Family. Rico Wade, Sleepy Brown, and Ray Murray revisit favorites from OutKast, Cool Breeze, and Curtis Mayfield while uncovering major plans that never came to fruition.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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with organized noise, we discussed how the gods, Rico Wade, Sleepy Brown, and Ray Murray got down together. We also heard how they changed the game in terms of sampling and really gave Atlanta a musical identity and rap. Please make sure you check out

the first half of that interview, and now will be back with part two. This discussion is going to be just as rich and even better. I know y'all are going to enjoy this one. I enjoy this one. These brothers are legends and gods to me. Only on QLS. Yes, sir. Peace. What happens when suddenly the student wants to become the teacher? Like, what's the division of labor in terms of, you know, I'm sure that you guys are a tight three, a tight unit that handles the music. Organized noise versus earth tone three. What was what was the, what was the

We wanted them. We wanted them to learn. You know what I'm saying? If we wanted them not to learn, they wouldn't have been sitting there next to us why we're doing it. Yeah. So we wanted them to learn how to...

But how are you guys as friends and as business partners when it's time for bad news in production? Who's the person that has to... Like, can you talk about a song that almost didn't make it like... Well, to be very honest, without our dynamic.

Because it was a parliament type of family. So it's like you had a George Clinton, then you got boosty, you got all these different people who came from this that was great. Everybody did legends.

But they all rock with somebody because that person had the thought process that they all agreed upon. Ray and Sleepy's thought process musically. Hipop, drums,

rawness, and music. Vocals, harmonies, being live, organic. Who's not using that now? Right. Who's not, who, it's like we got,

not thinking about the brakes as much, all he's thinking about is the brakes. Like, so you, you got a marriage of like something, like a sound, that becomes a sound. Me, the competitor, we're going to compete with whoever else doing it, because we got it. I got the, so we're going to compete. Whatever I need to learn or to bring to it

as far as musicians, as far as, the lane part, what key we're in. Who cares what key we in? I need to know what key in, so I can make sure everybody knows what key, you know what key, you know what key, you know what key, but like, but like,

They're just doing it. So Big and Dre, C.Lo, Gilt, anybody, P.A., Reese, anybody who was around these two people when they were making music,

me, us. It was us, but just how hardcore they were about their things. Like, if he didn't care if none of his beats came out, we're going to make them every day and just throw them to the side.

So you're around people who's acting like that. You might think like, God, that's so dope. He just turns it off and went to something else. I want a chance to do it. You want to follow into it because you want to do it your way. Nobody ain't going to do it the way these cats doing it,

but you're going to learn so much. Kanye West, any of these producers. Like what organized noise did wasn't one person, you know what I'm saying? And while they was working, I might have been at the store buying sounds. You know what I'm saying, or whatever. Like, whatever it took, budget was like, someone who can be like, that's pay for it. Yes, we could pocket more money.

Like, we learned a big lesson from parental advisory with pebbles. We used a lot of samples. and she told us she was like well you got like $90,000 left in your budget and you guys get the remainder of the budget but you got to give me all the samples first let me clear the samples first

then we end up getting negative $3,000 right you know what I'm saying so from that point from that date we started working on Outcast like that's when we had found Outcast so we knew it's going to be hip hop but we're going to get better so I had started incorporating what Sleepy knew with live

musicians I wanted to ask you all too about some of y'all such a musician like Chan's Park and some of the guys like, what's y'all's relationship? Yeah, Preston Crump. Preston. Kenneth Wright. Kenneth Wright was one of the first ones when we did Outcast. Okay. But he ended up kind of drifting to the church a little more, but great.

Who is playing piano on probably one of my favorite productions y'all ever, growing old? Nigger. That's chance. That's chance. When you hit piano, it is on that one. Okay. There's an A.T. Alien sampler that came out, and it has a version of Growing O on it. I think it's an early version.

Ray, look at that. Tid is turning, 10 drops. Fat ass is turning the flag. Yeah, it's before I guess y'all played the version. I like the ATLE's version. The one that came out, that's the one. But was that the reason why y'all took the sample out? What sample was it?

I don't know the sample. Well, it was just a different version. I don't mean, yeah, because I'm trying to think what sample was, because I don't remember when the sample being, I know. It was a different version. I'm baiting. I'm bait because I know I don't. I know I duck this one out.

I know I don't know I don't. Maybe this is a piece thing. drink gray you have a piece out I don't know it was just a different version it was a different version

this song had no samples in it this is why I said this but no that's like just a gorgeous fucking song yoga has spoke

I was just I was thinking it was about that Markquez Markquez wrote that hook or whatever like and Marquois that just did

waterfalls so like we just wanted to sound we felt like we owe outcast a record that sounded more like something

even if it wasn't if it wasn't a third single or whatever. We felt like since we produced them, we got to present some of the kind of music that we've done on other artists. And that's something else I want to say too quick. It's like why we never had that problem with Big and Dre?

Because we was going. Like we had waterfalls out before they second album. They thought we would have. These are the guys whoever they put out, they didn't know Outcast was going to end up being 20 million sellers. And it's like, but they took, they had a like in vogue. Like even the fact that we did sell therapy

It was a rock New York. Like this, this song and Watch for the Hook, we moved. Really? I have a watch for the hook. When we did the tunnel in New York City is the night that I knew New York loved us. Oh. Watch for a little of the night. The high hat is in Philadelphia, right.

That's another guy for the hook. That's another guy who's favorite. My theory would watch for the hook. I thought that was like y'all's answer to Benjamin's. Like it's that, you know what I mean? Just the 16th hats. to the like, it felt like that, like, y'all's answer to, like, what

an East Coast club record was. It's the foundation of hip-hop. Yes. Break. Break down. Raise my favorite dude. You got to, you got to understand the science.

I'm going to do like that show to all. Raise my name. But you got to understand the science. He's tipping us to that. He's tipping his hat. Just just listen. We're paying attention. You all right.

Listen, I just want to say this. This is hip-hop. from the South, right? What song do we sound? Yo, Southern Man, come on. Yes, all. I always thought she said Brother Man, too. I was like, it said Brother Man.

To you and everybody else. But if you dug in the crates, you'd be like, man, this song called Southern Man. Right. Come on, man. Oh, yeah. Kilt that. No, East Point's great listening, man.

Like, that record, I remember reading, I think, but just all the stuff that happened with Interscope and everything, like y'all's production on that album, man, Like, witch doctor and Cool Bree's, like, man, y'all was in the fucking zone. And, like, that shit is... And really, we were just giving back. I'm talking about, we, I'm talking about him.

Every time we was in a position to do what you said, keep it rough and raw, even if we sacrifice having a commercial, bigger success, we put some... A swat-healing ritual. Swat, yeah. A witch doctor. Like, you know what I'm saying? And Cool, dude... It was like... It's like you...

It's like... Coopreeze is dirty south, for one. It was on the Goody Mob album, but he's the one who said what you really know about the dirty sound. It's his song. It was his song. It was his song.

It was his song. Oh, wow. But it was on Outcast album, but it was his song. See, that's what they did as a family. Like being around, it was like, it was our... Wu-Tang, other people, they were setting their people up. You know what I'm saying?

And not doing it too commercially like... You know, like it's BBD, Boys and Men and ABC, but doing it like that because we come from R&B. You know what? Me and Reek always talked about if that first OutKat's album would have been called Dungeon Family. People would get it more. People would get it more and we would be in the same thing as Wu-Tain.

Yeah, because I'll put everybody on it. Everybody, that's what that album was. It wasn't just Out-Kat. It was everybody. Working on it. It was Out-Kead songs, but everybody was around there every day, like literally. Because these kids was kids, 15, 16, 17. By the time we worked on that album, they was 17, you know what I mean or whatever.

So at that point, we put them first. But at the same time, we all knew it was all our opportunity. So I need your best. I need your best. They got to do their part. They got to do their part. But everywhere where there's a little spot, sleepy, I'm going to need you to do funky ride.

Yes. Big Rube, right on to the real. Death to the Fakers. Yeah, yeah. Question. Free. To open the album. That really could have been an anthem.

At no point where you guys like, let's make this a song. like a full-fledged song and that name with the drums yeah free and you may die which is like my favorite intro of any album ever i'm gonna say this about free first because because this court this this thing been happening all day okay philly in alana got that soul we got that soul you know why because my um when our um big brothers mckinley horton he came down here just jumped on to mckinley Harden from Philly. Yeah.

Philadelphia, like Philly. Mick, my figure, Mick, he just jumps on the, um, the wordlesser or the, whatever. C-Doh.

And Ciloh just started singing. It was church. I'm like, man, it was not put together type of thing. Like, like, Mick. For y'all was just like,

interlude. It was like, album opener. It was a flex, it was another tool. It was like, Cilo is raw. And you see,

and you see where he is now. We was letting you, like, we wasn't holding him back. But we was making a, a street rap album. These cats, a lot of the peers that just had died, like from school.

It was very, and we had the power to not make them the, like a goody-ma fun group. Even though that was obviously what you're supposed to do after Outcast. You got this, you got this parliament type of funky music. I know he could bring these guys out funkier and this and stuff, but we were like, nah, we wanted to dig deeper into hip-hop and make them see that. We respect it. We know we got the gloss on us or whatever, but we're serious about this. That's why the next Outcast album, we dumbed it down.

with singing hooks and tried to make it more rap hooks or whatever, ATLians or whatever. That was dumb in the down. Right. Yeah, that worked. No, for me, like, the genius of elevators was the whole Greek chorus. Yeah, yes. That was very parliament.

George Clinton. Yes, that's what we made sure. You want to, you know what I'm saying? It was their hook. It was their house. To make it sound like an old parliamentary. Where they're on states. Yeah, we want them to be able to perform the hooks.

So, Reed reveals to us the process of speaker, and the level below and the fact that speakerbox was just his solo record and then he says dray called it was like when is this shit coming out and reed was like uh you know in five weeks he's like if i if i finish my thing like when i had to turn in he said what three weeks yeah that's what he's so for 21 days he brushes this are you guys even aware that dray now creates that or has been creating that record and and has a 21 day dead line to finish everything. Big boy and Dre were going back and forth with that for almost a year before. It's like, they said they weren't going to work again. This is when they told us that

this is their last album and we might not, and they want to do it. At that point, and I mean, I know Antonio probably said it, but the guys, and that's where he does get credit. He gets a lot of credit because he saved, outcast the brand and that's something that he was invested into from day one. Like he knew that this is big in this Aster world. This is like a, this was huge. like this is a Whitney Houston, this is a Tony Braxton, this is a big group. Like, that's right. Like, that's when he uses business skills

and didn't let them sabotage their own selves, you know what I'm saying? By looking like... Doing the soul, just going on. Yeah, just... So, he was like, man, put him out together. But the fact of whatever deadline you're talking about, I know that I'm lucky,

I'm happy that Big Boy had the way you move because I think they doubted Andre's album. Oh, hell yeah. They thought... He didn't want to put Andre album out because he didn't think that shit was right. Wow. I'm going to say,

I wanted to make sure that big. Because, like, you know, we knew with Dre it was going to be different, but it was going to be fly. And thank God that, you know, we came up with the way you moved because I ain't going to lie, man. I was nervous for Big. You know what I mean? Just because, you know, not saying that the popularity was with Dre more,

but people were actually waiting to hear what he came. Whatever Dre did. Whatever Dre did is waiting on it. It's funny how, like, you know, I'm sitting over at the house. at a cookout and Big has his CD player that has 200 CD changing. And I'm sitting in the boom-mo room and all of a sudden this beat comes on

that he had this song for like three years. And it was the way you moved but it was broken all the way down. Then it had the horns. It just had a little did a little keyboard because I little buddy Carl Mo did the beat. Carl Moe, yeah, yeah. So when I heard that beat, it reminded me of Marvin.

So I started humming to it. I was like, oh shit. So I ran out of the bus. I said, Big, we gotta go to studio tonight. I got a crazy hook for this one. And the way you moved was actually going to be my record. We were going to do a whole new record for Big. And Big was like, yeah, we could do that.

But when L.A. re-heard it, he was like, fuck no. That's your record. Yeah, yeah. So I'm happy that it did because I didn't hear Hey Y'all, bro. I did not hear Hey Y'all until I saw the video. Wow. How perfect was it that y'all had like Big Boy, it was great because he had the fucking radio hit, right?

Because the black radio hit, whereas Dre had the time timeout, they was number one at the same time. As a fan, we were happy. So, all right, for me, probably, I'll say the end of, you know, no rap work day, whatever. Every major cosmopolitan city with the black radio station still had their like, you know, more music, less rap, you know, whatever.

That kind of died. down and maybe 2005, 2006. But for me, all right, so WDAS, which is the not the conservative, but the older. It's not the high 97. Urban AC. It's called the Urban

Adult Contemporary. Do you realize that for at least half of the radio stations playing the way you move were playing a big boyless version of that song? Yeah. Yeah. Like, I was literally waiting. Like, where's the verse?

Yeah. And I was like, yo, they actually made a whole ass song of, they would play your bridge twice as the verse. I heard that when I was in L.A. after they came out and I was playing pool somewhere. So did the label do that, or did you guys do that? No, no, what happens is that in order to get your spins up, you can't turn down.

Like, do you know they play waterfalls without left eye on those same stations? Uh-huh. They took a verse out. Yeah, I'm saying. But it was those stations that we don't listen to. Right. We don't listen to them. But those stations generate so much.

You still need the BDSs. You need the spins. It's like if that's what y'all need, then fuck it. You need the spins. So it's disrespectful. It's disrespectful. So they don't even tell the artist because it's rude. I ain't gonna lie, I'm kind of fly, though.

You know what I said? You had your boy on that. Sleepy brown, perj. No hating on my brother big. I love him. You know what I'm saying? It felt kind of good. It worked.

It worked. It did what the supposed to do. It did. It didn't do it was a win. A win is a win. A win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying.

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So any point between like the first momentum of organized noise, let's say, when does Sox and Jaws come out? 92? Sox and Jaws. The original player ball. Oh, Christmas. That was, yeah, 92, right? Yeah, so between 90. All right, so speakerbox is 2003.

So that's in your period. At no point were you guys just like, hey, let's do, like, let's really be a group now, or were you just like, no, we'll be the pilots of the ship and just produce all their stuff? Man, I used to beg these fools to be a group, man. They never want to do it. So was the closest. Well, I'll ready to be back. Was that the closest y'all came with, like, Society's Soul and Sleepy's Thing?

That was the closest. Well, not Sleepy's Thing. Because they ain't want to be a part. Yeah, well, society. Society's soul, they was apart. Yeah, but what was the resistance? We didn't want to be a part of the society. They didn't want to be a part of it.

But L.A. Reed said he wasn't going to do the group unless all of us in it. So it was like, it would literally be like they were going to road, big group and Esperanza, me and Ray would pop up whenever, whatever. We just looked at like, we just going to be the producer. They never, they never, as bad as I wanted to, you know, I wanted to be a group with them. You know. You got to realize, like, we had took on something very,

like, what we were doing for our own little family, but what we did for the South, how we had inspired. Like, we really, we were, like, and where I was battling Puff with these weekends and shit, like, we was important. That was the problem. We was important. Oh, can you explain that, please?

With the problems? Talk about it. Talk about it. Okay. Now, talk about it, what we're too. No, I was just saying that, like, Puffy is the king of marketing promotion. Right. And he was a part of, you know, you know,

they were brothers. You don't want this bad boy shit coming in your city just taking over, but it was coming. And they postering up. They posted it up. It was coming. So it was more like, everybody just wanted me to kind of like be against it, but I'm like,

this nigga's coming. Like, right, right. This man got a service outside the club. Yeah, so we're gonna play tough, but at the end of the day, we gonna, we gonna work together. We're gonna work together because it's respect. And that's the way that God bless

Kim Porter, you know what I'm saying, has passed away. But Kim would call me and be like... Oh, because she's Atlanta, yeah. Yeah, Kim would call me and be like, he wants to show respect. He don't want to do that with Jermaine and that, you know what I'm saying, and not show no respect to Dungeon families. There was more of a... Puff knew how to talk to people.

He knew how to trick you to do what you want to do. So, but that was important, but it was also like a hassle a little bit, even though you forget how important marketing is or whatever. You forget how important the promotion is, but really, you know, we really just wanted to make music and really figure out other ways. of getting more, like, different stuff out. Because Atlanta was with India, IRE, with these, it's such a while.

It's like, we didn't set this hip hop off, but we know R&B and soul music is here. So we're thinking about how to make soul and R&B cooler. And it's gotten that way now. So we did society or soul. It was us trying to find, we was pushing the edge on what, it opened up the door for the Neo's soul.

Yeah, like, no, man, embrace. Like, I ran the fuck out of that record. Yeah. Black Mermaid, Changes. Peaches and Earth. Let me say this. Society's Soul album was actually some outcast shit.

Okay. But Ray was like, they can't go back and do that style. They got to come a little more harder and different. So me and Rood was like, it was shit. Let's do a group because the first record was Peaches and Earth. That was the first record that we did at Curriton. That's the one. That's the one.

You know what I found out that they didn't really want to do it like that. I was like, well, what we might have done? a group. You know what I'm saying? So that's kind of how the whole society's soul came up. Sleepy's theme. Sleepy thing came up when we was with Interscope and we had Doppler Studios. We had all three rooms, right?

And it was also because Sleepy from day one, remember you hear the story, this was his mission. We kept putting it on the back burner because of our success as producers. Even in Players' Ball video, Sleepy killed their hook, but because of the face records, marketing,

he barely was in the video get up get out man they the first person to get up get out it didn't have Cilo rapping at the beginning came right up with Big and Dre I was like this music industry bullshit could have can destroy an artist like I gotta go back and face these people

and say like but I'm telling him like this shit is stupid but but we gotta put big and Dre we got and that's what I said going back going now to the story speaker box love below this is his brand This is his brand, Big and Dre.

And that's one thing I could appreciate about it. Even though you want to, it should have been Dungeon Family Al. Should have been Dungeon Family Al. But he was like, we got Biggie and Dre signed. So when y'all did the Dungeon Family Out of the Even in Darkness, how we all as a crew at that time? Because my record of that album was followed the light. Like that was the one for you.

And that came together, they came together naturally. Like everybody in the studio just singing and they all, it was some real dungeon family type of thing. You can feel it. I love that. But that music industry bullshit. The L.A. do it did. I swear to fourth.

He put Dungeon Family on, when y'all bring it up, those memories come up. He put our Outcast, Greatest Hits album that he never knew, that we never knew about two weeks after he put out Dungeon Family album. He just gave, he literally gave us. Just a slow to momentum down? No, no, he gave us a million dollars just so Outkaz

would be cool with putting out, because they knew that putting out that greatest hit thing was, what we're doing that for? He knew, he was trying to work the Outcats name. I keep selling, I could put our four Outkaz records right now. With them on one song, I can just keep it going, I need to meet a certain quota. The whole world, the whole world should have been the single

on Dungeon family. Yeah, so he's like, it's like, the fact that he was playing, but that's not an Outcast thing, that's not an organized noise thing, that was an LA Reed thing. Totally. Playing the game as far as like, thinking he knew more about, he knew more now. And he saw Master P and everybody was doing it.

With all their? With Dodger family on one side, Outcast on the other. Now, if you were fair, which side are you gonna hang up? Oh yeah, that's on the back, yeah. That's on the back. I was pissed with I saw it. I was living when I saw that, man.

Man, we would show up at certain places. And this was like I didn't have any more control of the business part because we had the Interscope deal. So now we still accrued. How are you talking about how did things go between us and them? We all stayed a family. The problem was when we wasn't in control of the business, yeah, things broke up.

Everybody broke up. I mean, everybody, because we wasn't in control of that's what's the word, translating some of those conversations. Like when somebody say, Oh, Big and Dre, they're not stars. I didn't go back and tell them that. I know you know what you were talking about. They were fucking.

Yeah, you know what you're talking about. You know what I'm saying? You're telling me I'm the star. I should be in the group. And I'm like an R&B. I'm like Big Daddy Kane. Right. Like, you feel like up the whole pie.

Right. I'm going to put Big Daddy Kane in the Outman. I'm going to work. Worker, dude, dude. Worker. I'm going to have this bitch. You try to get, that ain't going to work. No, by record on that.

By record on that one, it was six. Of course, it's the single six minutes and white guts. White guts was crazy. Bubba Sparks came off. Let me give it up, though. Big Boy, General Patton, man. On God, y'all, every world hit is. This man hold us down better than anybody.

Better than anybody. He is a true leader. He's a true leader. I wanted Drey to be the leader, and Drey told me you're the leader. Like, I'm the leader, and that's right, but he's right. But Big Boy, is the general patent, man. I love him to death.

That man, like, the elevators, that me and you ain't no, it's like, big boy, his, that is, that is what Outcast is. Andre is where Outcast became as far as like the fact that his creativity was, it's a, it's Prince. Then he crazed, yes, the fact that he learned good guitar. He showed, you start off as a rapper, just rapping and not making beats and become a person that's writing your own songs and records. Like you play every, play, every, you play instruments, you play whatever you want to do if you love it. And that's all music ass. You got to put back into it. He's on the flute now, right?

Man, he's on the flute. He's popping up in people. Man, he ain't just... I want to see him and Ligo battle. He's always in Philly. Yes, man, he's just walking around playing flute and stuff. In Philadelphia, in all places. He's hard.

Filling the movie. Drey playing is more like a Kung Fu movie. Yes. Did you? Lizzo twerking. He's twerkling. Yeah, I had a question... I had a question about, so, Curtis Mayfield,

the New World Order album. Oh, man. Was it true that y'all recorded his vocals on his back? Yes, we did. Talk about those sessions. The first, well, the song that we did was Ms. Martha. Yeah, yeah. And we were sitting there, and they brought him in,

and he had to sing the whole thing on his back. So when he was singing, sometimes it was spas and his note to go up or whatever. But basically, he really sung the song in, like, maybe two takes, bro. Like, he really killed it. It was really amazing to actually work with him before he passed. and because I'm sitting there, you know, players ball is out, and I don't know how you feel about it. So I'm nervous as hell because I'm sitting there,

I'm like, oh, shit, I'm about doing Curtis Mayfield vocals. Damn. So he's in there, and the first day he said to me was, Sleep it, I really like what you did on that out. Can I play his ball? Keep it up. I was like, oh, holy shit. Because at that time, everybody was comparing his vocal to Curtis Mayfield.

He got this Curtis Mayfield vocal on the, that's what the writers were saying. And at that point, I was cool, because we kind of had a relationship with Curtis Mayfield's son. It was kind of like a family thing or whatever to where we knew them. We were going to buy Kurtzum. And we actually, we was going to buy his father's studio. But we didn't want to take it from him.

Is it still an existence? No, no, no, no, no. They made to a, museum? Oh, damn. Wait, so can I ask you, Sleepy, how do you feel, do you feel you got your just at this point as a solo artist? With all these stories? Hell no, man.

I can say this. I've been very fortunate to meet all my heroes. I'm talking about everybody I used to sit down and look at the album for hours and just Earth went and Fire. I had a chance to walk in that big but did not tell me that Earth Went and Fire because I had met George

and George became like a father to me. So, but I met all the original members of Earth Win the Fire. We walk in for the Grammy rehearsal. And I'm like, that's right. I said, bro, they go Marie's. Hold on. Wow. He was like, yeah, they performed him,

but I was like, man, get, what? You didn't find out you performing them until that? Didn't check it up. As soon as I said, what? They were in the circle. They said, Stephen, come in and sing the verse. Oh. Wow.

So, Irwin, the fight is doing the singing. Man, come on, bro. Yo. I was there that night, man. I was there in the artist. Man, my heart was, man, I could not believe it. Yeah. So I've had a chance to meet all my heroes, man.

Everybody in the music business that I always looked up to, and they all adopted me. And I'm more happy about that than my career. To tell you the truth. Because as a solo artist, it's been I. You know what I mean? The way you move still does great for me. I love it.

We can perform any time. My dad always told me, said, Patrick, you're going to have one song that you can perform until you die. And dance is for him. He said, the way he moves is for you. Wow. That's a good song to be trapped in.

Listen. You know, my career's been great. I love it. It's some stuff that I wish could have happened better, but that's only my problem. Margarine and shit definitely happened. That one is a thing. Nargarita.

But you know what? My thing on that album, my record was, I like Margarita, one of them nights was the one for me. One of the nights, yes. I was like, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I did that with, um, that's a big out of peas,

with black eyed. Blackout peas, I did that with them. You did that with, with Blackout peas, man. Oh, Will? Yeah. Prince and, yeah.

Yeah, Prince and those guys. Yeah, we did that Kelly. Oh, man. Can I ask, give me a close call story. Who did you guys almost work on and didn't work on? You talked about producing their record and didn't.

Kendrick, right? Well, Kendrick, it was because he just didn't pick the right. It was just timing. I'm saying? At the time they was moving. But he just came to us with like, without kids. He's like, what you got? Wait, pre-8 or new Kendrick?

Oh, well. Or he wanted the classic organized noise. Yes, right before he put out all this stuff that he put down. Oh, okay. Right, right. But, um, okay. Oh, so this is for good kids. Let me think, let me think, let me think.

So it's maybe around like 2013, 14, something of that? I know for, I know one story, which is, I mean, I think of another one. But jagged edge, like jagged edge was supposed to be signed to us. I kind of like, during that time, because I love them twins. The twins can really sing. They come around and they was playing the song. But I just felt like it was the Interscope deal. We had just kind of messed up.

So instead of like looking at God, looking at the gift, and I'm saying like, okay, this is another group. It was more like we just want that. I think, kind of build up in-house or whatever. And their stuff was kind of already done. They had everything written. It was just like one of those, you just need to go in and touch it. or whatever, like putting, or whatever, get it right.

And I remember saying, I'm going to let your man out. I should have did that. That's all good, bro. I know there's no way to ask this question and not be whatever. But, like, as far as the different family members, because we just got done talking to Keisha Jackson, and she's speaking of, like, you know, there's the social deaf crew and there's organized noise crew,

and there's, like, so many crews of race. and she was speaking of basically like being a freelance background singer and she in the beginning didn't know if motherfuckers would feel a certain way of like she's singing with y'all one moment and then over here sing with them another like kind of like an apollonia prince mars thing but is there a friendly rivalry at least between hey never tell you something i'll tell you something off the real Atlanta germany dupree dallas austin organized noise all right So we Because they were already kind of getting it

Dallas is the king You know what I'm saying Dallas was the king Dallas had you know what I'm saying Not only did he have ABC He produced boys to men He produced boys to men First Avenue or whatever

Like he did Madonna He was Fishbone He was just like We got to remember All this Fishbone I forgot

Yeah Dallas that guy Like Dallas the guy So he on the show So Jermaine Was that guy Independently Closer to what we can touch

Like he was working with Itchy Bun He had a couple of Javierna straight jackers. He had Silthown leather. He had a woman in me. Yeah, his version of El Coo-J, his version of Salt and Pepper. His version of, uh, that's what he would do. Wow.

No. Brat, that was his version. I'm just, I'm just telling you how I saw. How I saw it. But I still admired him because his father and what he did, that was our close to connect. Jermaine was our, he was tangible. Jermaine was friends with KP them.

Like, like we could. So it was more about, we didn't, When Chris Cross came, he figured it out. He did his version of a kid. Actually, me and Jermaine kind of grew up backstage together because his dad was the role manager for Brick. Of course. So with that being said, when we go in the studio,

when we're in the studio, I remember the first time we was like working on Outcast and working on some, I heard him starting to do, like, he started trying to use that person on Brett. Marcus. Jefferson. Marcus Jefferson. We ain't worked with Mark for about 10 years after that. Oh.

Oh. I don't be like that. No, no. Mark, no, I mean, I love him to death, but he know I got mad about that. I got mad. But did he step away from what he was doing for y'all to do that? No, he didn't step away. It was just me being like, that nigger biting us.

Territorial, territory. It's being territorial because Mark was fresh. Mark had a new sound. He had the big bass live, but he had put the witness on it. And we had waterfalls with him. And we did something else. Something this way come, the last doing on. So it was like that sound was going to be big.

So it was like, man, he's just trying to, like, rip that sound. But we was wrong, you know what I'm saying? It's like we was right about what he did or whatever. But it wasn't about shunning him as a, it was just more like, it's other base players. We can use other people. You won't be in our sessions or whatever. That's what we did.

That's how Rico felt. Yeah, yeah. That's how he got dealt with. We just kind of, we just kind of. I didn't really know Rick felt like that. No, right. This is what we're saying. This is what we said.

Because you keep the fool, but you take care of that. Because he was one hour, he would have been, he was somebody that we would have coveted it even more. But guess what though? But we had Preston. Guess what? No, not just we had Preston. Preston went and got that little effect and put it on his base.

Preston would have got that effect and put it on Preston, bud. Go Preston. Ray is not his co-signed. This is all we go ahead. Wait, wait. I just want to say, that sound is our sound. Yeah. So this is why Preston.

incorporated that thing into his thing because we still do that. That's why when you hear that... That water base or any kind of... It's funk. It's funk and not. You talk about OutKead sound. You hear certain stuff that you said, that's OutKead.

And it's no disrespect to the homie. To nobody. He's a superbest. He's all good. I just blew him up. Marcus Jefferson. Can you tell the story behind liberation? Man, come on.

Please. That's big and dre again. But Kung Fu is strong. But once again, I can give you this part of it. Okay. How I felt about it. The session two. Oh, no.

No. Go ahead. And then I got a secret. And how I felt about it. Okay. At that time, the musicianship, the fact that we, you know what I'm saying? You worked. We did all of them at Doppler.

Okay. They said they together making the song together. That we were doing all of this thing. All of this was at the same time, right? Yeah. It's all the same. It's like the musicians going room to room. You know, same energy.

At that point, I felt like, right? Big and Drey, like, so that album, Liberation was on stankonia. Right. No, liberation was a criminal eye. Quimini. That album is Big and Dre's complete coming out party.

Like, almost could have been their last album. Everything else was forced that. I mean, I forced me like. For the record, that's my favorite outpass album. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. By that time, parties were free because I think he did gasoline dreams on that album. So, like, they was, as far as, once you worked with musicians, a lot on the album, you figured out that the sonics of being.

able to have these sounds with these sounds and that sound. So by the time they got the liberation, I feel like that's where the poetry, that's when he was talking about, and Spodioteo the dishes. That's why those songs are so special. It's because they produced the hell out the songs. Then they didn't have to perform as rappers. They went and did, like, they produced.

Spodeo. Sporeo is actually played by a band. Right. Wow. And then the horn section, those brothers. So who was the hook? Who came up with the lyrics for Is it a fine line between? That's Andre. We flew to Dallas to record her vocals for You Got Me.

She was just listening to a rough. So I guess Drey left a rough of like five songs there. And Ross was with us, common. And liberation came more. And literally I could say now, probably no group or a collective of producers has ever made us like you know that that kill bill iron side when that shit came on i remember rosh came on he's like yo man how do you feel about that that last song and i was like i said yo man we we got to come

with some shit man like because and i remember to that day when the idea of heaven somewhere That clues you. Yeah. All right. That's Captain obvious. Hey guys. Breaking news. I don't know if you know this.

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Mixo really was a bomb producer that he did too. Bomb producer. He was really, he was really, not bum. Bomb. Okay, he was dope. He was dope.

He was super dope. And at that point, we weren't really giving those sides up. So it was like, when he did the original, we flipped it. Like, like, so he got, like, we might have flipped,

like, whatever he did. But how did they know Mixo? How does Mixo involved? Mixo had did lumberjacks. Right. Which is Kujo and Timo. He was produced, yeah, he had did that, this is how I act, this is how I act.

Before they were the good amount. But these songs had come out, but Kujo and Timo, the Lumberjacks, was on Outcast Hills. As far as the next up-and-coming two-man group in a line of rapping, so it was like, fuck, we got to, let's make them a group. So they were group first and then y'all put,

no, Biggie and Dre were group, but instead of having another two-man group coming after our two-man group, it was better to be like, instead of having Gip's solo and Cilo solo solo, won't we do a four-man group or whatever, like, because these guys were the, were the nucleus. That's where the goody mob came from was Kujo and Timo. Bag. Goody bag was on the album, so Goodybag was like, absolutely, man, listen.

So since you kind of brought it up, or at least pointing the door to the white elf in the room, should call me? I know, right. Here you go. I say, just walked back in. I have a question. No, no, no, no. I'm trying to phrase it in a way where it's just not,

I'm asking a dumb question. But obviously, you guys are now legacy producers because you've been doing this for like three decades. And there's always been talking the internet. It's been happening for the last two or three years where, you know, there's obviously Earth, Earth Gang is heavily influenced. And it's hard not to be, you know, not spoke to them. They were like, yo, we were,

like nine, 10, 11 years old when this shit's coming out. And now, so obviously, you're now seeing the results and whatnot. Has there ever been a conversation about, like, you guys working with them? Like, just from the current crop of today's producers, like who is? Yeah. Oh, man, I got a great story. Lando McGee, that was our intern. That was his group.

He was somebody that he wanted to work with, but he wanted them to be around us, so we can tell them how not to act like us so much. So we can push them into being a little more real. I love them guys. But I also think that it takes you three albums to get you together. To take that off? Yeah, see what happened to Rory. My cousin, DJ, working with Rari right now.

Rari was a, he was a part of the 20-year anniversary. When they put that stick, that challenge on you, you're the next Outcast. It's just like people. It's a burden. People expect a 10-year line of work. OutKass started with Southern Playlist of Calais for music, where they were just proven to New York

that they could rhyme. Then they had to double down on that with ATLians. Aquim and I, they went crazy creatively because the balls were hanging. I'm saying? We had plaques on the wall.

It was like, it was work. We was dropping when Tupac was dropping. We was dropping when whoever, the Wooten, whoever was, oh, it's going to be big numbers this week. Fuck, Outcast just dropped.

It didn't happen like you wanted it. Words I always say. Words I always say. Yo, Outcast, I don't know if y'all did roaches and rats. Was that y'all? Oh, man, that was a bang. That was a banger. Why did that make the wine?

Oh, God. How did I miss that? That was a jewel. That's a good one. That's a good one. It's only on, like, YouTube. That's a good one. First of all, it's probably 10 years old when it came out.

Yeah, when they had it dropped. But that was one of those good ones like Benza Bemer. Benzabemer that we end up using on the New Jersey Drive. New Jersey, yeah. But that wasn't the original version of it. What? That wasn't even the original version. That was like the original.

That was the original vibe, but it was, yeah, it was a parliament sample. We just learned more about sampling and like, like, fuck, we can't use them. Y'all outcast, the outcast soundtrack game, because like the higher learning joint. Phobia? And that was our, that's how we learned because, like, we went in on a, that's S.B2L. But it was stiff, though, and it was gritty. We was like, it was like, fuck, man, we didn't take advantage of that opportunity. You know what I'm saying?

Like, even though we did, if we put out something with big room on it, it was, we got to, but it was like, and we got paid good. John Singleton loved us from that day forth. Every movie he had, he called us to be like, yo, he wanted Sleepy to be the whole soundtrack for Shaft. Because he loved the Sleepy theme album so much, he flew me to New York to talk about it. I was supposed to be.

I had a meet with Isaac Hay. We're going to do the whole thing, like Shaft soundtrack, going to be Sleeping Brown doing the whole shaft thing. Just straight score, like, the whole. Damn. You know, just, and I had crazy ideas. but... Yep, I'm gonna say, L.A. Reed.

Ah, I'm saying. Oh, wait. Don't worry. I'm gonna say. When the face got the soundtrack. Wait, go ahead, sleep. When the face got the soundtrack, I swear to God,

we got the director of the movie. We got Isaac Hay's blessing. But I do understand the politics of Sleepy's not, this was before I can't wait, I believe. Before I can't wait, so they was like concerned with Sleepy big enough to carry. Yeah, but we knew 70s movies. And back then,

That was my shit. I was so excited to do it. Like, I wish I could play you to some of the songs that we worked on for. It was insane. You got the shaft. You know what? That ain't funny. I got a problem with you.

But that was clever. But that was good. That was good. You got the shaft. With that camera. So, all right, is there truth to the rumor? My manager told me the story, and I didn't believe it, that the way that you guys handled the 20th anniversary

concert because I know the white elephant in the air was whether or not Dre would join you. And the whole thing was like, give him 100% FOMO and then he'll show up. So the whole plan was like, don't say nothing to him.

And then three hours before he's like on the play, oh, I'm coming, I'm coming. Is it truth in the rumor? That's how you all handle it? Like, basically to be real simple with it, we told the promoters, we was like, if Andre has to be here, we don't want to do it.

You know what I'm saying? Like, we want y'all to want us as the dungeon family without him first. Because it was just the fact that we were respecting his wishes. Like, I don't want, you know what I'm saying? Huh? Somebody's the show for them. One music fest when we did it. Yeah, my manager told me that.

How do they do that? It's because, and those guys, they was like, man, we got big boy, got Celo. All right, all right. And then we started rehearsing. We took it serious or whatever. And then we got a phone call, was like, y'all trying to do this shit without me, man. The day before, the day before. The day before.

Y'all, he'd go. He'd go. Y'all could have asked. Hold on. Plan worked. No, no. And we would have asked. No, no.

But the plan worked in the sense of just get it all in place. Like, like, make sure that we can do this. Because Big Boy and Ciloh was killing it already with touring. Like, the way they worked, it was working. So it was like really trying to get. Cool Breezer shot, Wish Doctor shot. So it was like the best part was that those cats took, you know what I'm saying?

Those cats was getting more money to perform by themselves than to take what they took perform with us. Then Andre said, man, you know, I was like, can y'all get some more money? Like he'll say he'll do it. So it's like it worked out for him. It's like we had already got what they said they had. But when we said, well, we had.

He had to do two minutes songs. Yeah. And, you know, he could be cool. He was good. Man, he killed it, man. He came in and like, and honestly, that brought us a sense of family in the sense of like we were seriously like

we got to do it without him I hate it but a lot of this shit is jamming without him but some of this shit is jamming harder with him the tour work that we did. Yeah, we actually did a tour without him and it actually did great but that show that one music fest show wow that's like

that's something more than that that's memorable that's something right now I think we still holding the video I think we still got the video footage of that I think we're speaking I think we got to put we working with I think we're about to try to put that out

so is there a scratch that you have not itched yet, or are you satisfied? A itch that we haven't scratched yet. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I'm bad. I bet. It's your job to correct me.

You did it twice. I don't know. I don't know. You know, I'm struggling right now because, you know, the guys want me to do a new album. Yes. Yes. But at the same time.

Yeah. Yeah. No, no, I'm with that. But at the same time, I've been through so much with labels, even though this time is us. and that's great, but my heart been broken with so many damn labels that it's kind of hard to get the energy

to really truthfully want to do that. Like, I want to produce people now. I want to produce more than now to be an artist, truthfully. What I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do it. Yeah, man, I did a session with Joy. I wrote a song with her. This has been a couple of years ago.

She came in my crib. She played me some stuff for yours. Bro. Put, let that, I mean, it was jamming then. It's still jamming. This was a couple of years. years back, but nah,

this shit sounded really fucking great, man. They got great. And that itch. But I love, I mean, if I do, I would love to do some new. I mean, me and Ray,

we've been funking with some shit, and Rieke, we're doing some stuff. And it sounds great. I just need that B-12 shot to make me want to go do it. I feel you. You know what I mean?

Look, I'll say this much, and I got to close it. But, you know, we've been doing this for six years. This is our first episode in the flesh. Yeah. in almost

three, damn to three years. Wow. Like, you know, the pandemic basically had us on Zoom. So, you know, for the most part, when we do legacy artists, they're closer to their 60s and 70s, and their memories are old shoddy, and they don't recall that song, or the stories are not exciting.

I will say that I will not take for granted how awesome this episode was. Nah, man. And that you guys really... No, man, like, for real. You know. So it's so little salty that it took me like 30 years to have like a real conversation with you three. I was about to say, will y'all ever work together?

You know, if we see each other and passing, we were touring with each other. I would have. I mean, but, you know, I'm saying, like, what's up, baby, what's going? All right, then, all right. But I, no, no, no. And people always think like, oh, he's so standing in office. But I think in my mind, I want my first, this is always my dream and her action where I get to, because I, look, the first time I messed Q-tip. It was like this episode, and he avoided me for seven years because he's just like,

Amir's like a journalist. Like, just be regular, dude. Like, stop asking me about, like, my drum patches. Yeah. That's regular for me. Oh, so you had to get this out so y'all can be cool. Yeah, because I think I freak people out, like, in the outside world, I'm this person. There's a place for the nerd.

There's a place for that. No, for those kind of conversations, because I'm very, very, very impressed with the wealth of knowledge, with the whole. But see, it's had to happen like this for you to be impressed. Nah, bro. No, we are. We're students. Man, we're not teachers. We are students.

I'm about to call my dad as soon as he said, CECL. And you are like the face, one of the faces of hip hop. How Snoop is, like your face is out there that we're proud of. I appreciate it.

And once again, congratulations on the award. Thank you, man. You killed it with the movie. I love it. I watched it. I told Ray, man, we got to watch this. This is insane.

I appreciate you. Yeah, thank you. It's beautiful. And I just want to say, man, y'all, y'all brothers' music got me through like so many tough times, man. Like, I'm a day one fan to the end.

And like every record. Dead me? We fans. You get all my day. Did you get them on? Love y'all brothers, man. Like straight up. Well, that's it.

Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of the great... You may die. Oh, told you he's coming back. We already talked about you. We talked about you. Or the intro. Yes.

The intro. Just talk about recording that song. We just have to, like, two minutes. And why do y'all give these brilliant ass interludes? Right. They don't make a song out of them? Yes. But that's what make it dope, though,

because it's like, it gives you just enough. Because you want more. Right. The night y'all recall. We just ran it backwards. I think Dre was, that's when he was playing with us, Gilemba or whatever.

But we, you're thinking, now, that's whole don't be strong. We took, I think we took A.T. Lians forward and ran it backwards to make the piano.

Then I wrote, then we wrote the hook. That's the look. That's the look. It don't happen that much. We took something that was on the album that was going forward and ran it backwards

at whatever. And it's so beautiful. Put a piano on. And then we got peach to sing because her voice was such so monumental to us. at that time. Shout out to, yeah,

shout out to Peechus. Thank y'all. All of them, too. It was, certain in your mind, do you think they were having like a seance with a whole bunch of candles

in the night time? You, that joint and the hold on be strong intro with 4.0 singing on it. Yeah, like y'all, y'all intros, man, that was like textbook. It was really a community affair. You fuck with everybody you fuck with.

Yeah, that's what happened. Put them in use, however you can use them, you know what? And that's what you do. And that's what you do me. And that's what, too, and that's what to me, I feel like Big Boy did the most

because with Janelle Monet, he kept that spirit of life. Even when a little wheel, he would take him on tour. Because the purple ribbon? Not even just Purple Ribbon. Okay. His touring, when it was Outcast touring,

they would keep these guys alive even if it was just on the road or whatever. So by doing that, you keep your skills sharp. You write, as long as you stay doing music, you're going to write some music. You're going to come up with something for refreshing. Did y'all ever cut any breakers on Scar? On Bubba Sparks album.

Ah, okay. Scar wrote the Who. the hook for A. Ain't Life Grand. Ain't Life Grand. Yeah, Scott was like my twin at one time. He was totally like- We got songs that we haven't released

that we're going to release. Nah, Scott, he's crazy. So we want to hear. I love that. Thanks. Well, ladies and gentlemen, on behalf. Yes, sir. I got to.

Atlanta thanks you. Shit. Yeah, definitely on behalf of Sleepy Brown and our new Sensi. Ray. Yeah. My favorite dude ever. My favorite dude ever.

Yo, Rico, thank you, brother. On behalf of Unpaid Bill, still on Sesame Street, Fonigolo, Laya, and Sugar Steve. My name is Questlove. Very grateful for this episode, very classic episode. And we will see y'all on the what, Steve? The next go-round. Much Love Supreme is a production of I-Heart Radio.

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