The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: Paradise Gray Part 1

Episode Date: January 3, 2024

Questlove Supreme sits down with a keystone of Hip Hop culture, Paradise Gray. In the first of a two-part interview, Paradise revisits growing up in the Bronx backdrop of Hip Hop. He recalls his time at The Latin Quarter, a legendary New York City club that birthed the careers of Rap legends and more. This is an insightful, informative, and entertaining in-studio interview.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Suprema, SUPREMA, SUKREMA, ROCALL, SUPREMA, SOQA. No, not a GM. Yeah. Jones creep into my DMs. Yeah. I represent freedom. Yeah. Hey, Steve, what rhymes with?

Latin quarter. Ha! Roll call. Supremma. My name is Fonte. I got my moisturizer. Yeah. What time is it?

Yeah. Gran verbalizer. My name is Sugar. Yeah. Where's my per diem? Self-sabotage. Yeah. You an asshole.

Hey Bill. You're number one supporter. It's time for tails. Yeah. For the Latin quarter. Yeah. Supreme. Moro.

I am. Yeah. It's so nice. Yeah. Been talking about the Latin Quarter. Yeah. Finally we got Paradise. Role Call.

Supremea. Subrema, Subrema, Role Call. Supremma, Subrema, Subrema, Subrema. My name is Paradise. Yeah. I'm twice as nice. Yeah. Like skating on ice.

Yeah. Can't say it twice. Roll call. I'm Joe Supremma. Hey. Subrema. Subrema Roe. Subrema Roe.

Subrema Roe. That's what I meant. Let's go. We care. This is what they call the, when you have like a long... Very special episode? Well, no, no. This is the longest stretch of finally getting to the tail ends of what this show has been about for the last, what, seven years?

Seven years, good luck. Yes. Okay. Okay. There we go. You know, we've been talking about or joking about the Latin quarter with every hip-hop luminary that has made their mark in this culture in the late 80s, early 90s, and we've heard many a tale of the Latin quarter.

But as a walking Smithsonian pack ratter, pop culture hoarder, of course, you know that I easily got excited about doing this particular episode of Quest Love Supreme because you can't have any tales of the Latin Quarter without our guest today. And, you know, for damn near five decades, our guest has been preserving, building, shape-shifting, many a career in hip-hop. But more than that, he's embarking on what I would deem probably his most important project which is a proprietor of the Universal Hip Hop Museum.

Yeah. And, you know, not to mention he's an author. Currently, your show about your collections in hip-hop on A&E. Yes, hip-hop treasures, which I, the fact that you just had to wear with all to know that this stuff is going to be value speaks of your character. So, and also welcome Team Supreme with us. Yes. People. What up?

What up? Hello. Hey, Bill. I'm back. Yeah, you're back. Where you been, bro? Sorry. Went to get cigarettes.

Okay. Nice. I'm glad you're back. No, for real. Welcome Paradise Gray. Yes. To Claude Paradise Gray. The man that holds our history in his hands to Questlef Supreme.

Van Glory. So, sir, have you ever heard of the Latin Quarter? No. How are you did that? I'm absolutely fantastic. Okay. Well, real. This is a great, great pleasure. Thank you. Thank you. You look amazing. Well, thank you. You're welcome. Let's just begin. Where, where does your hip-hop journey start? Your very first moment in which you're meeting the elements of what hip-hop is. I don't know if it's hearing Apache for the first time or... My journey in hip-hop started in my mother's living room. You know, my mom was a super mom, you know.

She was the curator of all culture in our household. You didn't touch the TV knob unless she did it. You didn't listen to the radio unless she programmed it. She was my program director. And every Friday, she would come home from work and go to the record store around the corner from my house and come in the house with a fistful of brand new 45s. And she introduced me to James Brown, George Clinton, Sline the Family Stone, the last poets, Gil Scott Heron, Marvin Gay, and goes on and on and on. And then she used to play those records and cook and clean the house.

I meet my brother and sister sang and dance with her. And then every Saturday morning we would watch Soul Train. And after it went off, we would do our own Soul Train line in the house because we had all the records that they just had on TV already in the living room. So she prepared me to be a DJ. and a selector. And the first two crates of records that I had, when I started DJing in the streets,

I took it from my mother's record collection, you know? Really? Yes. What were those two records? Oh, no, my other. What were the names of all the records in those? I mean, I had a lot of the break beats right from the door. You know what I mean?

Because my mom, she listened to every genre of music. You know what I'm saying? So she prepared me well. So one day, growing up in the Bronxdale Prize, I was going to the store and I heard this music coming from beyond this door. There used to be a laundry room, but a DJ that lived in my building, his name was Disco King Mario. Oh, Disco King Mario. Yes.

Okay. So this was another address that should be remembered with 1520 Sedgkin Cedar, 1715, Brooklyn Boulevard in the Bronxdale Projects. And I heard the music coming from the door. I cracked the door open, and there he was. Disco King Mario with two turntables and a bozac mixer with a knob. And he was playing a song, I think, called Gotta Get a Nut. Oh, by a New Birth. Yep.

The infamous, Yeah, La Soul, Can You Keep Your Secret, Drum Break? And then I was standing there with my jaw, like, oh, wow, what is he doing to those records? Like, you know what I mean? Right. And he was like, man, come in and close the door. I came in and I sat down and I was surrounded by stacks and crates and equipment and speakers and records. And, you know, he had a bad habit of when he DJed. He didn't put the record back in the cover.

So his records was all over the place. They were dusty. Sounds familiar, Amir. Shut up. So because my mother had conditioned me to wipe the records and put them back in the sleeve, I systematically started organizing Mario's records. I was seven years old, and I wiped them all clean. He lets you touch his records?

I grew up in a, you better not touch my record. The floor. Okay, I get it. You know what I mean? Right. In horrible condition. I see. I came in with the kit, you know, they had the alcohol in it.

You remember that? With the velvet thing. He wiped the record. So he loved it. I organized his crates and that began my journey as a real DJ. I want to do a slight sidebar because, okay, so as a family, we've been together for seven years. But I don't even know your actual journeys. If we can keep it under three minutes.

Like, what was your first hip-hop moment, Fonte? I would say my first hip-up moment was my uncle taking me to the Fresh Fest at the Greensburg Coliseum and like 80, this was 85, 86. I was like six years old. Did you not hear rap music before that? Yeah, I heard rap music before that. Okay, so what was the most impact, like your first impactful, like me hearing rappers delight was like, what is this?

I think probably the first, we're talking just hearing the music, it really wasn't rap. I mean, it was like records like, you know, nucleus jam on it. And like, it was those kind of records. My mother would take me with her to the park, and DJs would be out playing those. records. You know he should have went last, right? But seeing it.

This is some bullshit. But not seeing it, that was like, that was, it was the first one. I agree. Run DMC, fat boys and Houdini. And that was just, that was it for me. It was done. I knew what I wanted to be. All right.

So, Laiae, you next. Now, first of all, were you in D.C. Or were you in Philly? I was in Atlanta. D.C., that's where I worked the first 15 years of my life. But, I mean, I feel like mine is more disconnected through TV because I was babysat by the TV. So it was through movies. It was Beach Street.

It was Breaking one, breaking two. Breaking Booker, I'm going to tell my truth. Breaking Boogaloo was my shit, man. Lecture, too. I'm saying it's right. I don't want to be judged. Okay. I saw the movie three times when I went to the theater.

All right. Steve? Yeah. Besides, you know, smoking with Snoop Dogg at the studio. Well, no, because further back. Wait, did you once tell me you stole weed from Snoop? Yeah. Okay.

But. Are you still smoking it right now? I think I told that story when we interviewed Snoop. But it was the fat boys and that first run DMC album, Rock Box. But the thing was, I heard all this stuff at my Jewish summer camp where there were no black people. So I didn't know what was going on or what I was listening to necessarily. But then, you know, everything happened in, I guess, high school, break dancing. I mean, you can tell me what year was that first run DMC album?

83. Wait, this is weird. I'm noticing now, and, you know, we should probably try to get Cool Rock Ski on the show, that the Fat Boys is actually a lot of people's first introduction to hip-hop, which is kind of crazy to me. But even Jay-Z said the very first hip-hop tape he ever brought was the Fat Boys. So it's almost like, because hip-hop was kind of contraband. You know, again, my parents went through that.

Yep. That Christian period, like, yeah, you ain't listening to that, whatever. But they had no problems with me having the fat boys. Because they were too funny. It was funny, yeah. They were too funny to be threatening, you know. Whereas, all right, I'm Pay Bill. Yeah, I think the fat boys, I think heavy D in the early days.

And then like, and then like I came up in like the fucking vanilla ice teenage mutant Ninja Turtles era. But then. Ninja, right. I did. But then I know it's hard to say out loud in this fucking room. Listen, wait, time out. The entry point is an injury point.

I don't want to dismiss that because L.L. and I were talking about this on tour, concerning Hammer and Vanilla Ice both selling 10 million units. Like between Lices to Ill, Hammer's second album and Vanilla Ice, like those three records were the first three albums to sell more than 10 million units. And for a lot of people that are in the hip-hop now, like, that was their fat voice tape. Which then led them to everything else. So I can't even be dismissive. I mean, I don't like the magnetness of vanilla ice.

You want to hear some craziness? What? X-Klan's first tour was with the ghetto boys and vanilla ice. What? How did that work? What was that like, man? One day I was in my room, we were going on stage, rock, and bounce. You know, so we didn't know what was going on with the other group.

We know, you know, Scarface and the ghetto boys was one of our favorites. But the first time I even heard the name, this beautiful girl was. was knocking on my hotel room after the show. I opened the door. I was like, wow. She was like, where's vanilla ice? I was like, I don't know, but chocolate is right here, baby. Now I can use the booing thing.

Because I know this is actually a subjective fact, if there's such a thing. thing. In your opinion, when did hip hop start? Because I keep hearing from many a person that, no, no, it wasn't August, 1973. It was da-da-da-da-da-da. Honestly, who's going to win this tug of war? I have no idea. Okay. But I will be honest, August 11th, 1973 is an arbitrary date. Okay. But we had to say it started somewhere. But I believe. believe that hip-hop started when the first man walked, hip-hop started when the first person rapped, hip-hop started when all the elements were developed hundreds, maybe even thousands of years ago by our ancestors. For us to say that we created hip-hop from

nothing in the Bronx in 1973 is totally disrespectful to James Brown, George Clinton, Slying the family stone, pig meat, Markham, you know what I'm saying? It's disrespectful to Al-Hadale Malik El-Shabazz, to Muhammad Ali, to the Black Arts Movement, Amiri Baraka, Sonia Sanchez, you know, the watch prophets, the last poets, Gil Scott Heron, you know, the Jubalaires, Pigmeet Markham, you know. Come on, history. Can I ask you, so when I was a kid and I was a kid and I was, was eight years old when rapper's delight came out.

And you know for a lion's share of America, rappers delight was for a lot of us, our first hip-hop experience. We never heard of anything beforehand. Even though I lived next door to a DJ, so, you know, I would hear, like, let's dance to the drummers beat, and he had, like, two turns a,

but I thought he was a disco DJ. Right. Although he wasn't scratching. Before 1983, every DJ was a disco DJ. Okay. If you was not a disco DJ in New York, you wasn't making no money. And hip hop is the bastard child of disco, funk, R&B, gospel, jazz, and everything that came before it. But it's closest related to disco. Think about it. First rap record, you said was important was what? Rap is a delight. It was a sample. It was a disco record, good times. You know what I'm saying? And matter of fact, every record that came out. in 1979 was a disco record that people was rapping over,

with the exception of Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five. Freedom. Right. Freedom, and wait, freedom wasn't the first. Right. Even Super Rapids, all of those are disco beats. You know what I'm saying? Rapping and rocking a house.

That was a disco beat. Or, you know, King Tim the Third. That was a straight disco record. If you look at the video to the sugar Hill Gang and you turned the volume down you would not believe they was rapping right they got silk shirts on right with big old collars you know what I'm saying they wearing dress slacks and slippery bottom shoes they doing it wasn't no Adidas right it wasn't no pumas it wasn't you know no Nikes no

gazelles no can go's none of that if you went in a club our elders was in the club with slippery bottom shoes jackets and hats on. That was it. The question I'm asking you is that I'm under the impression that this culture got its name only because it's the very first two words that Wonder Mike says on the very first hip-hop record that anyone ever heard. I would agree with that. Yeah, because my parents used to always be like, you better hip-hop your ass in bed.

You better hip-hop the dishes. Hippity-hopping hip-hip-hip-hop. My dad used to do exactly the same thing. So what I was asking you was, were you guys even calling it hip hop? No. Okay. I get it. No.

More than likely, the first two words. And that's the thing. Even I didn't know the song was called Rapids Delight, the first day I brought it. I thought it was hip-hop. I went to the store like, you got hip-hop. And he has me a, you know, roulette record. What were they calling it then? Well, we was calling it jamming.

We was, you know, yeah, we're going to jam today. You know, we're going to go out. We even calling it rap music. We didn't call it rap music either. Well, because they called the song Rappers Delight. Right. Then it's like... Oh, my God.

Yeah. Like, Rappers' Delight contains a lot of the elements that we still use now. Like, the boy band, gross writing, biting. The label, ripping off the artist. Right, exactly. He said label ripping off the artist. Yeah. The foundations of hip-va.

But you know what, though? Sylvia Robinson does not get as much credit as she deserves. Yes. You know, she was the one that saw a high. Hollywood and Love Bug Starsky in Harlem and say, yo, this is important. You know, do you know the little known fact? First of all, Sylvia was the first hip-hop mogul. Yes.

Period. You know, and second of all, she engineered this song and mixed it. I heard she played bass on it. She probably did. I heard she got so much skills and talents. Yeah. And are we to assume that her business acumen came from like the men and the people that came before her, the motown?

No. A business acumen came because. she owns seven labels. Okay. I was just thinking in my mind, I was like, it was a blueprint. She ran with Morris Levy. Ah. And if you know about Morris, like Morris Levy was the Jewish Shug Night.

Wait, let me just say the word first. YouTube was like, huh? What? I heard Levy and I was like, hmm? Bill's too young. You got to hit Steve with that. Yeah, Morris Levy owned, you know, roulette records.

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It's Will Ferrell. Woo! Woo! My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch. with them one day and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't

worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah. It would not be. Right. It wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Can you just describe as visually as you can what an average jam was like? in the Bronx, like sound-wise, because, you know, we'll see, you know, sort of like not

revisioned or, you know, like people will give their stories or tales of it. But I want to know. I have my shoe footage from 1983. Really? Of me and my crew, DJ Playboy Paradise and the Brothers Three and my other rap group to throw down four in 1983. And we're dancing, we're doing graffiti, and we're DJing and rapping. organically without Beach Street you know without Hollywood and one of these days I'm

gonna screen the footage that we found and then interview almost every single one of my homies in video is still alive that's a miracle yes sir but guess what the miracle is called hip-hop every single one of my homies that rap dance did graffiti except a few, very few of us perished by natural causes or by murder. But the friends of mine from Highbridge, who didn't rap and wasn't in hip-hop, man, decimated. Is what you witnessed in terms of any park jams you went to, was that the only existence of that culture in that particular thing? No.

No. Could there be nine block parties happening? And you just go to, well, the first block parties were live bands. We had a lot of live bands in Highbridge, which is where I moved after I moved from the Bronxdale projects. I lived less than a mile from 1520 Sedgkin Cedar. Okay. And quite honestly, in the early years, there was a lot of other DJs that were rocking simultaneously with Cool Hurd and before Cool Hurd in my neighborhood. We had a DJ named Pete DJ Jones.

So can you explain who PJ Jones is for our audience? Yeah, Pete DJ Jones was a mobile DJ. He was one of the top two mobile DJs in New York City, period. The other one was Grandmaster Flowers from Brooklyn, hip-hop's first Grandmaster. And a lot of people may say, well, I never heard of him. Yeah, right. I got 100 flyers with him on the same flyers with Hurricane Flash and bam and all of them, you know, and he opened for James Brown as a DJ at Yankee Stadium in 1968.

Oh, wow. So, you know, hip-hop just crushed August 11th in the Yankee Stadium, but Yankee Stadium has deeper history in the Bronx, you know, and there's a lot like a lot of people who say, Well, Pete DJ Jones, he was a disco DJ. Once again, we can't do that. He mentored Hollywood, Love, Bugsarski, Curtis Blow, and Grandmaster Flash. Get that man his hip-hop credentials. Is he still with us today, or?

No, he passed away a few years ago, but there's some footage on it on YouTube with him still in it, speaking with his own words. He was an amazing DJ. He was great at mixing. He did not cut. He did not scre. He didn't do any of that, but he played break beats too. And he ushered in Hollywood of Bugsarski, Curtis Blow, and Grandmaster Flash.

I wanted to ask, Paradise, how does the DJ somebody like Larry Levan, how did they, someone like him that played at Paradise Garage, was that in y'all's kind of radar at all in a time? Well, it definitely was because we, we love disco music and dance music. And actually, you know, disco to us, that word is what stops a lot of people from understanding what we're talking about. Okay. Because when we say disco, it wasn't a genre of music. It was a place to be. It was a discotheque. It was a place where they played music at.

And when we went to the clubs, the discothex, they a shout to D.C., we played go-go-tec. too in the beginning of hip hop. And a lot of Chuck Brown and the soul searches and a lot of those EU and all of those guys, they contributed to the creation of hip hop too. You know, a lot of people from Philly contributed greatly to the creation of hip hop. And they don't get the credit for it. You know what I'm saying? The juice crew and cold chilling records that came out with Roxanne, Chante, Bismarck, Big Daddy

Kane and the juice crew that we know. that started as pop art in Philly. Right. You understand? Goodman Brothers. Goodman Brothers. Exactly. There's so, you know, we migrated from the South, and we brought a lot of these things with us.

There's a rap group that was a gospel group in the 20s and 30s named the Jubalaires. Yeah. Who rap with the same cadence of the Sugar Hill game. Yep. You know? So if we ignore our elders and ancestors and don't. speak of their contributions, they taught us hip-hop. We learned hip-hop from our elders and ancestors.

And if we eliminate them, then we got a right for young people today to not remember us or attribute our accomplishments to us because we disrespect our ancestors. We deserve to be disrespected too. So I'm trying to think of the proper way to ask this question though, but is it because disco was the current music of the time? Is that why it became, you know, let's say a beginning of hip-hop? Was it because disco was funky and dance music? Disco was that shit, man.

Are you kidding? Come on, one of the biggest, greatest break beats in the world, Frisco disco. Yeah. Come on. Right, come on. Right, come on, Bra. You know, Bra. You know what I'm saying?

Come on, where would hip-hop be without the Isley brothers? You know what I'm saying? We, what would we be without Motown? Stacks votes. You know what I'm saying? McFatt and Whitehead. All of these guys were geniuses. We learned hip-hop from them. And we remixed it. We sampled it.

Hip-hop is a sample of Afro-Indigenous culture worldwide. It's the best of everything that ever existed. If you make a beat that we like, we don't care if you're a corny white rock. group with long hair. Walk this way! We didn't let it go that far. But we love, puss, puss. Give me that. It's hip hop now. Hip hop is a cultural and musical version of Star Trek's Borg. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. That's my shirt. That's a T-shirt. That's a T-shirt. New Generation and after you. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Damn, the things I learn about you, are you? When do you say that hip-hop started making it

sort of its trek into nightclub culture, where it starts as block party culture. That's where Kool hurt the Zulu Nation, Grand Master Flash, the L brothers, Grand With the Theodore. That's where the disco twins come in. These guys took it to those places. You know what I'm saying? And we use

disco records as breakbeats. Come on, where we're here? Hip-Hod V without, I want to thank you, Heavenly Father. You know what I'm saying? I mean, there was just some amazing music being made by some of the greatest cultural geniuses who ever lived. And we got to call them out and give them credit for what they created. Bob James, are you kidding me?

You know, we had amazing the meters. You know, we had amazing teachers. church who taught us the beat and thank God Jane Brown put it on the one baby can you talk about any historic first that you've seen in the first phase pre pre pre latin quarter of your hip-hop experiences as far as like shows are concerned or nightclubs you've been to or any of those things um we hung out at the fever the disco fever, Harlem World, the Rennie, which was called the Renaissance, Harlem World. Where was the disco fever?

The fever was in the Bronx, right, down the stairs, down the Joker stairs from my community, Highbridge. Okay. It was at around 167th Street, not far from Yankee Stadium, right, by River Avenue. So that's where you had to go to hear those particular non-mainstream. Well, if you was old enough to go there, we got... everything we needed right in the street for free. You know, we...

Speak on it. There was the P.A.L., the Police Athletic League. Denzel always talks about that. Yeah, there was a lot of venues. We even had a disco called Burger King, which basically was a Burger King restaurant at night. One of the brothers that worked there would move to tables and chairs. And we would charge 25 cents.

And we would do hip-hop parties in Burger King. And nobody would be the wiser? Nah, he cleaned it up. And in the morning, you know, nobody knew anything about it. You know, we used schoolyards. We used talent shows. We was in the streets, you know. We did Cedar Park.

You know, there was hundreds of parks all over the city, from Brooklyn to Queens to Manhattan to the Bronx where, you know, DJs would just come bring their equipment out. set up and get it cracking. And it was illegal. Everything about hip hop was illegal. We stole most of our equipment in the first place. The Black Island 77?

We were stealing shit way before that, but that gave a lot of people who wasn't as bold or as good thieves like we was, an opportunity. But, you know, we brought our equipment out in the park and we partied without a permit. When you say we, are you speaking, were you associated with black spades or like? I was a baby spade when I lived in the Bronxdale project. Can you explain the crew culture?

The black spades, a lot of people say they were a black spade, but the black spades is from the 60s. Okay. Have you ever seen the movie A Bronx Tale? Oh, yeah. That was the story of the black spades and the Bronxdale projects. Wait, so who were the black? Wait, who the black? The black kids that were mad at the...

They organized very similarly to the Us group on the West Coast and very similarly to the Black Panthers. It was out of necessity. The white kids used to live right above where we was in the suburbs. There was a couple of blocks that separated the projects from the suburbs. And the white kids were sons and nephews of Italian mobsters. and they wore the leather coats like Fonzie with the collars. You know what I'm saying?

They had the grease hair back, and they had revolvers, chains, bats, and switchblades. And they would come down into our community and pray on us, beat us up and rob us and do whatever they wanted. So the black space... How can we never hear that part of this story? My dad is from New York, and he's about 10, 15 years your senior, and it was different for them because they used to throw bottles off the top of the buildings. And hitting the kids on the ground. Wow. And he grew up in Manhattan.

So it was interesting to hear the Bronx versus what was going on in the other boroughs. So the black spades fought back against these white gangs and pushed their butts way above us. And the crew got so big that it became the biggest black gang in the Bronx. In Brooklyn, they had the Jolly Stompers. Okay. And the Tomahawk. And they were represented by the black gang in the movie The Warriors. Okay.

That group at the end, that was the Tomahawks and Jolly Stompers, which later were organized into a black movement by my elder Sonny Carson in Brooklyn. To your knowledge, because to my ears, when I'm listening to Just Ice, doing going way back, or listening to Karras I won. do the roll call of like with the South Bronx like all the names and all the things. And M.C. Shan who did the roll call from Queens. Well, that's what I was going to ask you. You know what? Do the other burles have their own tails held to the year?

That just didn't have good marketers. Yeah, as the Bronx did. Exactly. So who was first? Chicken on the egg. Well, I'm asking like, you know, because I hear of Queens having a history that we don't hear about. I don't know much about Brooklyn's history.

I know about Grand Master Flowers. Maboya. And there was a bunch of them. And there's a DJ that moved from Brooklyn who used to DJ whip flowers to the Bronxdale projects who actually predated Mario even. But he wasn't a cutter or scratcher either.

But they play breakbeats and they blended and they did the things that were the predecessor. The DJ culture is the foundation. and the predecessor of hip hop and rap music. And we really have to really do a better job of shouting these people out and researching. Me and my partner, Prime Minister Pete Knights

from third base, my co-curator at the Hip Hop Museum, we found the earliest flyer that we could find with the words hip hop on the flyer. And the flyer was from 1979. And it was from Brooklyn. So you see what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Another battery and they back.

Exactly. I see you now. There was many DJs including Eli Tubo, the great legendary hip-hop producer that produced Eric Me and Raq Kim, you know,

and engineered those sessions. He was a popular DJ in Queens. Russell Simmons was a popular DJ in Queens. He actually knew how to DJ? Yeah, he was a cutting and scratching, but they were deep. Ralph McDaniels from Video Music Box,

very popular DJ from Queen. Was Hollywood's terrain in a nightclub only, or was he also a street DJ? And is there a difference between street black party culture versus nightclub cultures? Yeah, most of the time, street DJs didn't make no money. We did it for the popularity, for the culture, for the love. But we spent way more money than we made, you know, buying big speakers and records and turn-table.

That was crazy, expensive on young people. That's why I was telling you it was illegal. You know, those that didn't steal, we pieced our sound system together. I had one turntable. He got one turntable. He got a mixer. He got some records. This guy got a speaker.

Somebody else had the power amp. So we were formed Voltron to even create hip-hop. How are those speakers being built? Do you have any knowledge of... Like, is it as loud or as... In Queens. Because I hear Herc's speakers were. Yes.

Herc had some monster speakers. Okay. And he was running through people in the Bronx until he ran into breakout and Barron. Oh, really? With the mighty Soskwit sound system. So Hercke was killing him with the Hercler sound system. And then he ran into the mighty Sasquatch. So the louder your system, the louder your base that, like, you would win?

I'll tell you why. There was a DJ by the name of DJ Smoke or DJ Smokey in the Bronx, not far from where Hirk was, who was DJing and popular at the same time Herc was. He played breakbeats, and he had his version of B-boys, which were called Smoketrons. Had DJ Smokey been able to defeat Hurt, we would be calling B-boys and breakdancers, smoketrons today because it was the same thing, right? Smokey battle with Hercke on numerous occasions. He lost every time.

Because every time he'd set up his equipment, Herc would turn the knobs on him and blow him out. You couldn't even hear him. So what constitutes a battle? Like, do you guys choose a ground? And then this guy sets up his speakers over there. This guy says speakers over there. Is it Jamaica style?

Is it like five minutes of you? Is there a referee in the middle? It depends. It just depends. Like, Hirk and them, they ain't have no rules. You be in the park jamming, and they come and they set up their shit right across from you. Oh, and disrespect you. They just turn the knobs up, and you can't even hear your headphones. And you got to pack your shit and leave. I love it. With your tail between your legs. Yes. Oh, so that's what you mean by battle. You got it. You got it. You're going. When Herc started battling Grandmaster Flash, Flash had a great sense. sound system too, plus he was a way better DJ.

So, Herc had to recruit one of my favorite mentors and DJs of all time, the Grand Imperial DJ, J.C., which most people never heard of. Never heard of. Because he left the Bronx and moved to Yonkers at an early age, but him and Grand Mixa DXT were the two best DJs back in the day, period, hands down, no question. That was literally what's going to be my next questions. Like, you know why? What?

Because they're related to you. Oh. What do you mean? They were both drummers. Oh. For live, I'm going to dance, more kids off the books. I'm like, wait a minute, daddy, let me. A win is a win.

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My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings.

I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up-and-coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.

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By that point, how did you bring your vision and mission to the Latin Quarter Nightclub? First of all, I never met Lou Walters. Oh, really? Barbara Walters' father. Okay. Right. I know he owned the spot, so I didn't know. Right.

But the guy that bought it off of the people that bought it off of them. Okay. Is my people. Okay. I first went to Latin Quarters with The Awesome 2, DJ Teddy Ted and Special K. Yeah. And actually, Donald B. The Awesome 2 was Special K and Donald B with DJ Teddy Ted.

Okay. So they were on WHBI, the same radio station made popular by the Supreme Team, and Sir Juice, Mr. Magic. And they would have a show that they played rap music Saturday nights, 4 o'clock in the morning, and they would play anything. Demos, mixtapes, they didn't care. If you send it to them, they would play it. So I went down, I was promoting records at the time.

I was working with Russell Simmons and Rush Productions and early death jam and I would promote records and I would listen to their radio show and they wasn't playing the stuff that I was promoting. So I was called a request line over and over trying to get them to answer and they never answered the request line. So me being me, I got on the train and went up there, knocked on the door, introduced myself. And I said, why don't try to answer the request line? They said, oh, well, because we ain't got nobody to do it. I rolled my sleeves up, went and sat down and said, you do now. It is. You do now?

You organize their records off the floor? No, but I organized. I organized the call to people who were calling in. Right. And what we did was we were able to filter out all the horrible stuff that they was playing and started playing the most requested stuff. But anyway, they got a gig working at the Latin Quarter's on Tuesday nights. And they called it Celebrity.

Tuesdays and they invited me to come to the club to be a judge it was like showtime at the Apollo for rappers you know you get stuff thrown at you you get booed right on stage you get a bottle like Harris once said so but the thing is is like how open is the establishment to this culture coming into to play because well um a very interesting interesting and wonderful Jewish man bought the Latin Quarter. Okay. His name was Mike Goldberg, and he was a hustler. You know what I'm saying?

I'm going to say, Steve. Sorry, everybody. Mike Goldberg. The Latin Quarter was Mike Goldberg's train set. It was his play thing, his playground. You know, he was a multimillionaire that managed the magician. David Copperfield, who would make $20 million a year on Vegas alone. So this is just a side thing?

Yeah, okay. This is a side thing. And Mike would just be all up in it. He would go stand in front of the box office and collect the money himself. Don't even let you put it in there to the lady. He's standing and give me, you know, and he'd have fistful of money. Sorry, everybody. And he just had so much fun doing it.

You know what I'm saying? So one night, I just, you know, I'm saying? One night, I decided, like, the Celebrity Tuesdays that the Awesome 2 was doing was cool, but it wasn't packing the club. You know what I mean? And it was nothing like what was going on at the club on Fridays and Saturdays. So we used to go to 42nd Street to the Kung Fu House called Sini 42nd. And we used to get three Kung Fu movies for $5. You know, and you get like three movies, popcorn, hot dog, and a drink, $10.

You know, so we all hung out down there watching Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, you know, the Shaw Brothers movies. And that's why hip-hop became so synonymous with Kung Fu movies in those early days because it was all concentrated right there. So I come out to Kung Fu movie and I said, let me see what's going on at the club. Because I've never been there on a Friday or Saturday. So I go to the club. There's a Jamaican after-work dance party. And it's so packed that you can't even walk around in the club. And the floor was undulating with sex and bass.

The bass was turned up so much that if you stood on the dance floor, you would probably be dancing without moving. It was just undulating. It was like watching The Matrix, you know, that scene in Zion at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it looked like to me. I was like, there's no place in hip-hop that you can go and have this experience where everybody's on the dance floor and all the dudes are dancing with women.

You know? So it gave me the idea of Piphany that this could be an actual hip-hop dance club. You know, we were going to those clubs and my man was talking about Larry Levine and those DJs and stuff. There was another movement of freestyle dancing that was going on in New York at the time, around 85-86. People wasn't breakdancing in New York no more.

The rock steady crew, the dynamic breakers, all those dudes was on tour in Europe, China, Japan. They was rocking over there, but nobody was in the club B-boying no more in 1985-86. So the new style was the style that they was doing dancing to disco. and dancing to club music. They went back in time to when the Latin quarter was the Cotton Club,

and they borrowed the old dances from Sammy Davis Jr., the Nicholas brothers and Cab Calloway, and they modernized those dances and danced hip-hop with it. If you look at the way Salt and Pepper danced, or if you look at EPMD, you got the chill video. You know, if you look at Big Daddy Kane and see Scoob and Scrath, you know what I mean? You look at Houdini and you see Dr. Ice and the Cango Kid

and young Jermaine Dupree. Those were the dancers that were being done in the Latin Quarter's. The ghosts of the Cotton Club was reborn in the dancing at Latin Quarters. And we had a group called the IOU Dancers and the JAC dancers. and the J.A.C. dances was Buddha Stretch. Yeah. Who went from dancing at the Latin quarter to choreographing Michael Jackson's Remember the Time video and being the lead dancer in that video, you know,

because those doing that Egyptian style, all those interesting dance styles were coming out of the Latin quarter, you know? So 15-year-old Queen Latifah was working at Burger King in New Jersey when she decided to go to the Latin Quarter to do dancing and she saw MC Light for Fun and was like, oh my God, I want to do that. So that's how the club was.

When do you mark the grand opening of the Latin Quarter? Well, in my era, the one that I did that's called, you know, that made it be renamed. Yeah, let me just not call it to the Latin. I know it's a history. I just meant, like the name of your parties was called. It was the LQ. Well, I'll just say the LQ.

When do you consider the LQ period of the Latin Quarter? I say no tricks in 86 is time to build. Because by 86, rap music had blown up internationally. And if you went to the Latin Quarter on a weekend, Curtis Blow, run DMC, the fat boys, Houdini, all of them would be hanging out there because they were my friends. And I would let them in free and give them drink tickets. You know, so all the hip-hop would convene there. But I couldn't put Melly Mel on stage to do a show.

He would get on stage. Even though. Right, right. He would get on stage and do a little impromptu stuff. And he was actually the catalyst that helped turn it into the golden era of hip-hop because he was the filter. If these legends and, I mean, you know, I understand that one, you're here also to represent the opening of a museum, which is like, hey, preserve the culture. But, I mean, even you have to admit that hip hop is very big on this sort of disposable adult culture and, like, the youth run it. And once you hit a certain age, then it's like, all right, well, that was then.

Well, that's because of the record labels, man, and the music industry. When black artists and hip-hop get older, you got to pay them. They know the game. They're not 17, 18 years old. You're not going to just run some bull crap contract on them no more. Damn. I didn't even think of that. Yeah, it was all economics.

Like, you know what, y'all? Oh, we're not paying, y'all. You know, kick rocks. And kind of the way that I really transformed hip-hop at the Latin Quarter was for the same reasons. It was economics. I had Melly Mel who Deney run the MC in the club, but I couldn't put them on stage. So if Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five wanted to perform at the Latin Quarter, I would have gave him the stage. Great, gladly passed him the mic.

Okay. You know what I'm saying? No, you got paid $10,000. Yeah, yeah. They're getting arena money now. Okay. They won't no club money no more. You know what I'm saying? So I put Biz-Marky on stage, Roxanne Chonte, M. Cyan, Big Daddy Kane, Salt and Pepper, Kid and Play, EPMD, Eric Van Rock Kim, Stetsosonic, Justice, KRS, They was all hungry.

Okay. And they didn't have record deals. You rocked the Latin Quarter on a Friday or Saturday. You had a record deal Monday morning. Shit. Not the A&Rs was in the crowd. Russell Simmons is in the crowd. Tom Silverman is in the crowd.

Fred Maneo is in the crowd. Aaron Fuchs is in the crowd. You know, they knew where the bread was buttered, and they knew that if they did not show up, that they were going to miss out, on the next big hit. Okay, without the threat of getting hit with a lawsuit anytime I mention these two names.

Can you clarify to me what exactly is Aaron Fuchs' role in hip-hop? Because I know of him only when I see a litigious situation happening. Right, well, he owned tough city records. He was an independent record owner. At the time when we started Latin quarters, the majors hadn't come in and dominated him. by all the independent labels.

Right. But because all these new artists were emerging every week, the majors was getting wiped out. And they said, you know what? We better get in this game. So you had Jive, RCA, Fourth and Broadway, Columbia, you know, start to actually recruit and sign these artists. And we replaced the whole generation of artists

because of economics and sound. You know, the new artists at Latin Quarters, they started making hip hop dance music. And if Red Alert, who was my DJ on Friday nights, or Chuck Chillout, who was my DJ on Saturday nights, if they played your music in the Latin Quarter and the IOU and JAC dancers didn't rush the dance floor and start tearing it up, you might not hear your record again. So people change the sound. They've made it more up-tempo. We went a little more James Brown heavy, a lot more boomed back.

And, you know, a lot of new artists started emerging. Okay, so we also live in a time now. Now we live in a time where it's really hard to break a new artist out. Like, you know, as a DJ, I'll play, if I think something is dope, I'm going to play it. And you'll clearly see an energy shift where it's like, I don't know this song, so let me go to the bathroom or whatever. And then it will wind up being a hit later, you know. once it goes through the system, if they pay for it, they go through the system.

But, you know, to hear me tell it, a lot of what we consider just the classic bread and butter, basic food groups of hip-hop, nightly are just getting debut, like you play Top Billing for the first time and the audience is going crazy. Which I did. How?

How? Okay, so how, are you telling me that a Def Jam rep can go up to the booth to Red Alert. Hand them there. And be like, hey, rock this join. Like, there's no, because people do that to me a lot. Thank God for, like, the system of Serrado now where it's like, you know, I'm on my hard drive on.

Like, I can't immediately play it. I don't like playing something unless I hear it first. Right. Well, we had a great sound system in the DJ booth. And you could bang something and listen to it. in the DJ booth without planning it out to the house. But what I mean more or less is like, if Rundee MC walks in the club and say,

yo, this is our new shit. You know. Then you're going to give it a chance. But if MC butter butt come in with a rat, you know, whatever, man. So do you know who audio two is? I did. Or is it?

I hated the audio two at the time. But I loved them as human beings as people. But they had horrible music. I like cherries. I was going to say, I was going to say, I like cherries was the A side, and Top B side. No, no, no.

The A side was making funky. That was produced by Daddy. Right, okay. You know, and the B side was top villain. And it was only like about two minutes in the beginning. Right? So what happened was Nat Robinson, Milk's dad, who owned first priority music, record label,

he had every DJ in New York playing Make It Funky, except one, cool DJ Red Alert. Okay. And my partner, rest in peace to Robert Lumumba Carson, aka Professor X, he was Nat Robinson's good friend for years and years. So he would always come in bed in paradise. Please get Red to play that record, man. Red got to play it, you know? Right. You know, they're right there.

They're almost there. They just need Red Alert. And I wasn't feeling milking kids myself, so I wasn't pushing Red. I do not ask Red Alert to play anything because you will get embarrassed. Red Alert is unbiable. I was just about to ask that.

You cannot offer Red Alert, no drugs, no women, no money. Red Alert had the most integrity. But if he said, no if he said no are you right so check kind of live in the era now where okay he don't care he wouldn't play Bambada's record and he was a Zulu okay if he wasn't feeling that he ain't playing it you know what I mean no matter how much peer pressure come so Nat Robinson came one day he was like paradise please get ready to

play it man we got this these people listening for it you know and it'll take us over the hump please i was like i took the record in the in the dj booth before red alert got to the club and i was just dropping the needle all over the record like there got to be something that's playable on this and i flipped it over to the b side and i couldn't believe my ears i was like oh my god this is dope your initial thing was it's dope it's dope okay with time out pause the thing Now, when I heard it, it was such an unorthodox song.

Lady B premiered it in Philadelphia. So I'm certain whatever Red Alert was doing, she co-signed it next. It is an unusual song. Yes, it is. That's why I love it. How did you see the light? You know what made me love that song, Milk is Chilling? What?

Spending uncounted hours in the studio with Rick Rubin. Rick Rubin, if you look at the early records that he produced, It doesn't say produced by Rick Rubin. It says reduced by Rick Rubin. And Milk is Chilling was bare bones, raw uncut hip-hop that I was used to from being a street DJ in the Bronx. That it reminded me of a street jam. And somebody put a beat on and somebody miscellaneous MC came running out the crowd and put it down on the mic. It was so catchy and so sing-songy.

I knew it was a hit the first time I heard it. So I gave it to my house DJ, DJ Roman. He played it about five or six times before Red Alert even got to the club. On the Latin quarter sound system, that beat hit so hard, right? So Red Alert shows up after coming off of Kiss FM. He's headed for the DJ move. I'm like ecstatic. I go running over to him with two copies of this record.

I was like, yo, Red, you gotta check this out. And he snatched it out of my hand and threw it across the room and it smashed on the wall. He was like, yo, this shit is a frisbee. I wish y'all would stop coming at me with these frisbys, man. I told you, I'm not playing it. I don't like it.

I was like, Red, why do you do me like? I was like, dad, I ever tell you to play something that's whack? He was like, no, but I don't like that. I said, you ain't even hear it yet. So when he went to go to the DJ booth, I beat him to the booth and I made sure that the last thing that played was top villain. I put it on and he walked in the booth and the crowd was going bananas. They were bouncing all over the place to it.

And I walked away and I said, yo, that's yours. And, you know, I told the story that after that, we start banging it. It was a big hit. Milk tells the story, Yo, Dice. He still hates it. he still don't play it. He might have played it a couple times for you after that, but he still haters.

Still? Yep. He felt that way. I love that. Okay, QLS listeners, this is where we're cutting it. Please come back next week or check your podcast for you for part two of our in-studio conversation with Paradise Gray. In that episode, he speaks more about the glory years of the Latin quarter,

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