The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme Presents First Musical Memories Part 2

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

In Part 2 of this special look-back series, Questlove Supreme examines guests' first music memories. Questlove shares another memory from his life and drops some anecdote. The second set includes memo...rable reflections from DJ Premier, Sananda Maitreya, Steve Ferrone, Adam Levine, Tevin Campbell, Brittany Howard—and more. As we celebrate these early impressions, please consider writing a review or drop us a line on socials, and let QLS know your own first musical memory.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.
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Starting point is 00:03:14 Welcome back to Part 2 of QLS musical memories. I'm your host, Questlove, and I've asked this questions to hundreds, truly hundreds of people. If you haven't checked out Part 1, now's the time. But right now, here's part 2. This one has a series of unique answers. Also, every one of these episodes are available to stream, wherever you get your podcast, and on the IHeart app. Right about now, we're going to start with one. one of my musical heroes.
Starting point is 00:03:41 All right, this guy, man, drummer of the average white band. He's drummed on so many records by Shaka Khan and just the god. This is Steve Farone. He shared a story about tap dancing. Ironically, that's all I also got into drumming. You know, I had to learn to tap dance first, coordinate my feet.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And he taught us also about how tap dancing taught him about racing culture, living in Brighton, England. So let's go back to 2022 with the great Steve Ferroni. Can you tell me what your first musical memory was? Well, you know, what I was told was that I used to sit in a high chair, and we didn't have TV back then. We had radio. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And I'd sit in a high chair with my spoon eating, and then some music would come on, and I'd start banging my spoon on the high chair, the table there to just keeping time with whatever music was on the radio. And that was when they decided that my grandmother and my mother decided that I needed to channel that ability somewhere. So my grandmother was a big fan of tap dancing. She loved Fred Astaire and Jean Kelly and Tick-Tac-Ttoe and those guys.
Starting point is 00:05:06 she was aware of them. And so she sent me to tap dancing school, when I was about as soon as I could walk. I was about three years old. Yeah, I was going to say, I just discovered that about you maybe a week ago when I was doing my research. And that's kind of my entry into drums.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I went to perform an art school in the first grade. And it was one of those situations where you go to your drum lesson and the drums are right there. And you're sort of like, let me at him. let me at him. And they're like, nope. And they point to a practice pad on the corner.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And you got to learn like your room that's like, it's almost like I had to practice to work my way up to the drum set. But even before I got to the practice pad, yeah, I had to take tap dance. So, you know, all that bojangles, me and my shadow. Like I was a hofer. Like, were you good at it? I was pretty good at it. Yeah, I was pretty good at it.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I won medals and stuff. Really? Can you steal a hoof now, or is that, what's the last time you did? No, I had a knee replacement. Okay. I got that light on my feet anymore, but I can probably, I can do a time step still. Okay. Yeah, like around maybe nine, age nine or age ten, I kind of eased out of that and just became
Starting point is 00:06:31 strictly like music. Well, you know, I have to say my first. first, like my moment that you had, that you said that you had with average white band, I had, when I was about five years old, my parents used to take me, they used to take me, we had this, I guess you'd call it vaudeville or something like, it would be vaudeville. There was a theatre called the Hippodrome in Britain. And the Beatles played there actually, so it's kind of bingo hall now, I think it is, but it's this nice, one of those theaters that got sort of neglected and sort of let go.
Starting point is 00:07:05 little theater. And they used to take me there to see these shows. And, you know, usually it was comedians and the Pia Pantamine at Christmas and stuff. And they took me there to see this show. And there was a band, a close harmony group called the Deep River Boys. Deep River Boys. Yeah, from Brooklyn. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Okay. And they were very, very big on Radio Luxembourg. was where you would where people would go to to listen to something other than the BBC because the BBC used to just play classical music and it was that they didn't play anything at all you know so you got a radio Luxembourg and you tune into Radio Luxembourg and they had a show on there and and and I guess they also would it was also a show that was that was that was good for like the the American forces were all over Europe at that point they had a basis in France and Germany and and and and and.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And so they used to be on the American forces broadcasting, but they had a regular show on this, on Radio Luxembourg, and they appeared at the hippodrome. So my parents took me down there, and they did my, it was kind of like gospel music, but I'd never heard anything like that. And I got really excited and started dancing around in the audience.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Right. Listening to this music is like, what's this, you know? Oh, wow, okay. When you find vanilla ice cream, you give a vanilla ice cream to a baby, first time they have it, they're like, why didn't you give me this before? You know, you got to build this baby food. Where was this vanilla ice cream? Well, that was what I got from their music.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Okay. And they sent their manager, their tournament, and they brought me backstage and befriended me. They made the Deep River Boys No, 6. And that was the time. That was when I found out that I was black. Oh, word. Okay. Yeah, I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I had no idea that I was black until I went and saw these guys, and they took me back back to my parents, my mom and my grandmother took me backstage to meet them. You know, they had been invited back. And I looked at these guys and they were six foot tall, which was back then, back then was gigantic, was a giant. And I said, wow, I wish I could be black like you guys. back then we never said black was colored because it was respectful it was disrespectful to say black back then yeah i know i wish i was colored like you and this guy harry douglas who i stayed in touch with for years he passed away some time some time ago oh you maintained a friendship with him yes all through the
Starting point is 00:09:53 years yes just amazing and uh and these are the first americans that you interacted with as well Yes. How weird was it to hear, did they have an accent to you? I didn't even, I was just like, I was just so thrilled. I mean, that's how they sang and they sang like they were a minute. We heard, it seemed like, we sort of heard about America. I think we had TV by then, so there'd be a couple of TV series that we'd seen. Not much of a TV, little thing like this, black boy thing.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Right. But Harry Douglas looked at me and he said to me, he says, you know, tonight I'm going to cast a spell. And when you wake up tomorrow morning, you go look in the mirror, and you'll be, you'll be colored like we are. I went to sleep, and then I got up, and I went to the mirror in the morning. And I said, yes, it worked. That was it. I haven't got anything more about it.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Oh, God, that's a great story, man. Yeah. All right, that was Steve Ferron of the average white band. He's played with so many giants. Next up, there's another great storyteller. You know, we gave our flowers to the one and only, Kevin Campbell. What was your first musical memory in life?
Starting point is 00:11:11 My aunt giving me the Amazing Grace album, the Reefranclaim Amazing Grace album on the vinyl. She gave that to me when I was, I think, that was the first album that I listened to continuously. I think I was maybe eight or not. She gave that to me. So. Her version of Holy Holy is just like, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:11:35 What we're talking about? Well, her version of Amazing Grace is incredible. I mean, though the song was written by Slot Evil, and I didn't know that until years after, like a couple years ago I learned that. But anyway, she seems like, no. Yeah, yeah, it does. It does.
Starting point is 00:11:51 What was it like for you to see the film version of that after having lived with it so long? You mean the, you mean the... Her? Aretha's film version, she, you know, when she was alive, she, they tried to bring it out maybe like, you know, like 20 years ago and because of some sort of contractual dispute. She didn't allow it. So, of course, she had to pass away. Were you able to see the documentary or the concert, the film? The Amazing Grace, the live. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was beautiful in a point in her life where she was very happy. Not that she wasn't happy at any point in her life, but she was. glowing and she was uh she had this afro and it was just beautiful man and you know seeing her in
Starting point is 00:12:37 her element i think is what's the most beautiful thing i think that people were touched by seeing that film because you don't a lot of people don't know that she sat and played that piano a lot of the songs that she did and a lot of songs on amazing grace album too so to see her sitting there in her element playing a piano and singing it's just amazing all the time so that was that was Most people don't know that she's like just as good as a piano player. She is a singer. Yeah. It's important for people to see that.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Here's Bernadette Cooper of Climax. Can you tell me what your first musical memory was? Wow. When you say musical memory, like band that I... No, just from as a baby, like what... Like the very first musical memory as a child. Aretha, of course. You know, and Aretha Franklin was my, played in my household when there was happy times, when they were sad times.
Starting point is 00:13:37 So, Ritha was a person that I used to listen to and follow her lyrics and her and her vocal movements and her hooks. And it made me a better writer by the Aretha Franklin songs. And then, of course, moving on, Diodato. Remember Diodato? Yeah. Yeah, it was a little bit of all those guys, Jeff Beck. You know, I really got into that scene and kind of in the high school, junior high school era.
Starting point is 00:14:08 But, yeah, I would say I read Franklin. What was your first musical memory? My dad, my father, we were in a yard, in the backyard, in Outland Halley School, small little town. And it was like 5 o'clock in the afternoon. everything's kind of gets gold, you know, when the sound goes down, everything looks golden. And my father, he was only teaching me how to read and wanted me teaching me how to play the violin. So he opened up the violin case, grab the violin, put it up here like this, and then he goes,
Starting point is 00:14:42 Mira, which means look, Mira. Then he went, and I'm like, what? And then a bird comes over. Didn't a little lance on this street, and he goes, he goes, best? Do you see? He goes, Otra best, one more time. Bird. If you can talk to the birds, you can talk to people.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Get it? And I was like, and that was Carlos Santana. And you can add bird calls to his many talents. Oh, speaking of which, here's Morris Day. Morris, what was your first musical memory? It went way back, you know, because I, I kind of just came into the world with the notion that I was going to be involved with music, you know, born in 56, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:45 And I can remember listening to the Beatles on our little AM radio that we had. And, you know, then later I remember doing, you know, the James Brown running around my, you know, the house in the projects and Fruit of the Looms on, doing the splits, trying to do James Brown. and all that. And then 64 comes around. We were one of the first, you know, let you know what priorities were back then. But we had one of the first color TVs in the projects. Oh, wow. Back then I was watching bandstand and I'm watching the Supremes, the Four Tops, you know, all these Motown acts on bandstand. And I was like, that's what I want to do, you know? So those were my early memories, you know, of music, but I just, it was just in my blood. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:16:38 A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversation.
Starting point is 00:17:01 with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clivert Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream,
Starting point is 00:17:27 this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. What's up, everyone? I'm Ago Wodom. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network, it's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with him one day, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:17:59 And dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.
Starting point is 00:18:25 If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get
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Starting point is 00:21:24 On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right. So, you know, last. episode in part one of this compilation, I gave you one musical memory. Part two, I'll give you another musical memory. Jimmy Jam would make fun of me during the pandemic when I was like DJing online and you can read the comments as you DJ. Jimmy Jam always noticed that I would let the listeners know when a particular song scared me in my childhood. And I realized that I never like songs that had a modulation in it.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Like whenever there's a dramatic key change, I was never a fan of that. Like it just sounded scary, real scary. And that's how it's always been. Great example. Aretha Franklin's classic covering of Bobby Wormack's, I'm in love. There's like a moment where there's like a bridge and then they go to this modulation key change and then Arith Martin and Jerry Wexler
Starting point is 00:22:38 put extra extra reverb on Aretha's voice and you know, like I now know gospel singing sort of comes from pain and whatnot but yeah, I don't know just to my four year old ears man
Starting point is 00:22:56 I don't know if it sounds like she was being murdered or whatever so that's like a scary moment to hear but also the beginning of me not like a modulation starts. Once again in my childhood, three years old. Yeah, someone called child services for all the shit that happened during
Starting point is 00:23:15 my third year of life. My sister and I are staying in Altadena, California in my aunt's house while my parents are recording the Congress Alley album, the same Congress Alley album that Dr. Dre used on a nothing but a G thing. I mentioned that a few times my parents being a sample
Starting point is 00:23:36 of those voices in the hook. Anyway, so again, in a bathtub, taking a bath, get out the bath, and rambunx is two-year-old. I'm just running around, running around, and I slip and fall, and I land kind of on my left side on a hot radiator,
Starting point is 00:24:00 and the radiator has to be, and especially like back of the day radiators, Like now we have like, you know, thermostats and usually the heat comes from, you know, like ventilators that are in the sky. But back in the day, man, they used to be on the ground and they used to be burning and hot. Like, the thing would be equivalent of like an iron. Just put an iron on and then just touch an iron. Like that's how houses were heated back in the early 70s. And I slipped and my entire leg hits the radiator.
Starting point is 00:24:31 And according to my sister, I think I had like second degree burns, but I was just screaming in pain. But right when this was happening, Soul Train was on. And Curtis Mayfield was doing Freddy's Dead. And there's a part in the middle of Freddy's Dead where they just briefly go to C-sharp minor and a bunch of trombones and trumpets have the plunger. You know, like when New Orleans bands uses the plunger, like that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:25:08 And they're doing that line and Freddy's did. And, ah, man, I was never a fan of C-sharp. C-sharp minor is one of the keys that I don't like. Like, when something scary happens in the movies or whatever, like, that's the key I don't want to hear for some reason. But any song that had a modulation after that I was not a fan of, maybe with the exception. The only one that passed that test, I'd say, was Stevie Wonder's Golden Lady,
Starting point is 00:25:40 which used to, you know, at the end of the song, every four bars, it would just go higher and higher and higher. So that's another distinctive memory from my childhood. What was your first musical memory in life? The Beatles. I was two years old, and it's the first not only musical memory, is my first memory I would imagine
Starting point is 00:26:08 I almost vaguely think I remember a picture of my father being banished from my life, my biological father. But obviously I would suppress that if it was a negative emotion. But at the age of two, I remember she loves you, yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:23 yeah, yeah. And oh, you, don't know you something don't know if you understand. I want to hold your hand and she loves you. that that is the earliest memory I have and I just think it's so awesome that it was a musical memory as well because nothing you know that that was the music that woke up my consciousness to the fact that I was existing in that life
Starting point is 00:26:46 so that was my first memory I also remember seeing breakfast Tiffany's on television when it came on in 1964, I think. It was also two or some the way around thereabouts. And I remember my mother buying me some Batman cards because that was my first hero was Batman.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So those memories around the same time, but they were all East Orange New Jersey memories. And that was the great Sonata Matreya from our 24 one-on-one interview. And this is John Oates back in 2022.
Starting point is 00:27:24 with a really touching memory of my father's music. Hope you enjoy it. Do you know what your first musical memory was? I sure do. I absolutely do. Right after we moved to Pennsylvania, there was a place not too far away called Willow Grove Amusement Park. Okay. And now it was an airbase as well.
Starting point is 00:27:46 But anyway, at the time, it was an amusement park, and my folks took me there, and Bill Haley in the Comets were playing in the beach, band shell. And I don't know if you remember, but Bill Haley was from Camden. Of course. And so I was like, I was probably four maybe. And of course, you know, I had this musical sensibility at the time, even though I was a little kid. And I remember running down to the stage. It was the band shell. So the stage was only maybe two feet high. And I remember being this little kid and I ran right down to the band shell. And I remember the bass player, the upright bass player,
Starting point is 00:28:23 at one point in the show, he wrote his bass like a horse. And I thought that was the most amazing things I'd ever seen. And that was actually the first live music I ever heard was rock around the clock and, you know, Bill Haley in the Comets. Really? So they were just performing at the... They were in the... They were performing at the amusement park, yeah. I was going to say, I think I believe that I too saw a latter day Bill Haley perform at
Starting point is 00:28:53 Then we used to, we had something called the skill pier. Oh, yeah. I played at the steel pier. Yeah, the skill pier in Atlantic City. It was in Atlantic City, right? Or Wildwood? Yep, no, it was in Atlantic City. And when I was a really little kid, around five or six,
Starting point is 00:29:08 I sang at something called Tony Grant's Stars of Tomorrow, which was a kiddie talent show at the Steel Pier. Am I dating myself? I mentioned the word Al-Aa Alberts, do you remember the Al-A-Albert showcase at all? Yeah, yeah, it was around that time. And there was a guy, and it was actually before Dick Clark took over bandstand. And it was, what was his name?
Starting point is 00:29:33 There was a different host before Dick Clark. But it was during that period of time, it was the mid-50s. So you were there for like the Duop era of Philadelphia? Yeah, Duop and Jerry Blavitt and all that stuff. Jerry Blavitt was a big hero of mine. Oh, snap. The radio show that he used to do. do from, I think it was from Trenton, where he'd play all B-sides. And, man, I heard, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:59 songs like Baila by the versetones and, you know, and guided missiles and, you know, these songs that were just unbelievable. And, you know, your father, man, Lee Andrews and hearts, man. I mean, you know, tick, tick in the clock, hey, Lee, you got to call my name. Can you tell me what your first music? Can you tell me what your first music? musical memory was. Oh, man. First musical memory. My grandmother had like one of those big
Starting point is 00:30:33 consoles that has like the eight track player and the record player and the speakers built in. And I remember being really young, maybe four and messing around with all the vinyl. Yes. And pulling out some of the albums and had them all on the floor. And my grandma was like, what you doing?
Starting point is 00:30:52 You know, like, don't break us. and all this. And I remember her putting on the Thriller album. Okay. But I remember hearing, I remember hearing the speakers, because it was like a tube system. Remember them warm up and then I could hear, you know, songs of thriller coming out with the speakers and being like, what the hell is this, you know? Kind of amazed and enamored by the whole thing, not just the music, but just all of it, you know, the warmth of it coming on. Was that your kind of, I don't mean, come to Jesus moment, but for you, was that like the moment where it's like, okay, well, I want to also express myself in this way through music or?
Starting point is 00:31:39 No, so, no, not really. I mean, I had that kind of moment when I was 11. I was in middle school and, am I middle school? I don't know. Whatever grade 11 is, 5.50. 56th grade. And there was a band from our school that had rented out our gym and they were going to put on a show. And I remember all throughout the day, everybody was asking, are you going to go to the show? You're going to go to the show. I was like, I don't know. I'll see if I can get there. And so I get to the gym and I'm by myself.
Starting point is 00:32:07 And I remember being like super anxious because I didn't really know anybody that well. And the band plays and musing them play on stage. And there was kids I went to school with. It was like, I didn't know these kids could do this. They were so talented. Look at the effect. they're having on people. It was songs that I liked and I knew. And it was like the coolest thing I had ever seen. And it was in that moment standing in the gym that I knew I wanted to be in a band
Starting point is 00:32:32 and I wanted to make my own music. And I wanted to be up there like they were. Like, I think that was the come to Jesus moment for me. Okay. How long before you found other people that sort of had a common love for music? Like, was music something that you kept close to the chest or like how big was the music community down there?
Starting point is 00:32:56 It was so small I had to teach people how to play music to be in a band. So I would go teach myself to instruments. And then I would go back to school. And I would just try to find a kid with some sort of musical talent, like rhythm. And I'd be like, OK, hey, do you want to learn how to play bass guitar?
Starting point is 00:33:14 I'd like, do you want to play drums? And I would tutor them and see if they get to a point where we can make music together. Some yes, but a lot, no. Like it just didn't happen. I was trying to make it happen. And it wasn't until I was probably like 16 years old that I finally met some kids who also were interested
Starting point is 00:33:33 in making music. And that was Zach, Jack Cockrell, bassist for the album of Shakes. And then he fought who became the guitar player. And it was them. So this whole thing really started from my school. Was guitar your very first instrument of choice or did you play other instruments as well?
Starting point is 00:33:50 My first instrument, I guess technically is like piano and then drums. I'm a drummer at heart and then bass guitar. You've never shared that with me. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, a lot of my, yeah, a lot of the drums on my new record, I programmed those drums. Okay. I'm not saying I can play them like that, but I can hear it, you know? And yeah, then I learned bass and then I only learned guitar because I had to.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I didn't really want to play guitar. Really? No, I want to be in the rhythm section. I just want to play bass. What is the gap though? Wait, the gap in between you knowing you wanted to do this and you teaching folks that the music, like, how are you learning? You never kind of said that yet.
Starting point is 00:34:35 You just... Yeah, so at first, like, I didn't have those instruments. Like drums, I could have access to drums because there were a set of drums at our school, so I could go play those drums after school. When it came to bass guitar, I was. would just borrow one from one of the rich kids because like I don't know what it was about school where all the rich kids had a bass guitar I'm like he let me borrow it you know and they let me borrow it and so I taught myself how to do that and the guitar my uh my sister had a guitar
Starting point is 00:35:04 like tucked way back in the closet it was like one of those jc penny guitars that looks like a less paul and it's like it's like 150 pounds and that's what I learned on was that guitar so I was teaching myself how long did it take also I mean I have been mastered any of those instruments. Girl, stop. All right. That's what we're doing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:25 No, no, no, no. Honestly, I was just learning as I went. So if I picked something up, I would make something with it. I would just learn as I went. So from the very beginning, I wanted to make my own music. That was like the whole goal. That's like the whole purpose. But what I was originally learning,
Starting point is 00:35:41 I had to learn other people's songs. So I just started with stuff that was easy, like, like, Blink One A2, and all those, like, kind of things like that. easy power cord stuff you know so where I'm gonna ask you my only one that goes through this like sometimes when we'll ask people about their childhood you're thinking about your childhood too but then you realize that their childhood is actually your adulthood like oh oh they're just talking about
Starting point is 00:36:07 her childhood and I'm like wait a minute I was 33 years old and that came out like do it don't do the math don't do it Matt I don't do it hurt I know I give my feelings hurt i guess when we first played together was at the rock and roll hall of fame in cleveland and we were doing a tribute for uh big mama thornton in your childhood was there did anyone ever put you on to her or was it like later in life when you discovered i i'm for a so-called music historian i you know i admit and i'm ashamed to admit that i was probably in my mid 40s before someone explained to me who big mama Thornton was even though like I've heard hound dog and all that stuff all my life but um I remember doing sister Rosetta Tharp though
Starting point is 00:36:56 oh my god I was saying that's just yeah you know what I don't even want to edit that yes yeah yeah Questlove makes mistakes yes I had a brain fart I'm sorry music a story in quest love we need to know both names I'm sorry I meant sister Rosetta thought yeah were you you at all familiar with her in your childhood or did that come to you later in life? It definitely came to me later in life. Maybe mid-20s, mid-20s is when I started getting curious about these women blues players. Right. And then I had started hearing about, well, there's this woman that kind of inspired Chuck Berry and inspired Elvis Presley and had the electric guitar. And someone told me about it because I played an SG. And they're like, oh, this is like
Starting point is 00:37:44 sister Rosetta Tharp, she also played an SG, she put an SG custom and white. And I was like, oh, I've never heard of her. So I started looking into her stuff and I was like, the stuff she's actually playing on the guitar is so unique. It's her voice on that guitar. Nobody else is doing it. It's crazy. It's actually hard. It's hard to play how she's playing. And so that's when I kind of started diving into her stuff and her story, which her story is really interesting as well. And that was Brittany Howard. And here is Ellie Reid from part one of our epic three-parter. L.A., what was your very first musical memory?
Starting point is 00:38:25 First musical memory ever? Like, ever? Your first thought of music? What, like, what's... It might be a little hazy, but I think that it was growing up Cincinnati, Ohio, in the kitchen, small kitchen, transistor radio in the window. and I think it was, it's my party and I cry if I want to.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Leslie, I think, yeah. Yes, I think it was that. Because for some reason, I remember that name Quincy Jones. Don't know why, but like I knew that name as a baby and it never left, you know. I think it was that or it was something from Motown, right? Like one of those dancing in the streets or I can't exactly. I was very young. But the one that the one that got me, though, the one that like the life-changing moment
Starting point is 00:39:17 was when I heard give the drummer some and cold sweat, James Brown. That moment, like that was, the world stopped. So speaking of Cincinnati, oh, by the way, our kids are listeners don't know. Not many people know that Quincy Jones produced Leslie Gore's. It's my party. That's his very first. Very first sit. as a pop producer.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I was going to say that I noticed, at least from what Butti told me, and just from observing that anyone who's in proximity of King Records and their whole operation had their life changed, either as someone that works inside of King Records or the studio or the factory or someone like Bootsie Collins did, hung in the alleyway and just hoped maybe one day we'll get used or something like that. Yep. But because there's a five year, a five to 10 year age discrepancy of you and Bucci's generation. Right. How did the James Brown Ohio effect?
Starting point is 00:40:29 And plus, this also explains why Ohio is the funk capital of the United States because, I mean, basically King Records moved their operations to Cincinnati. and basically at a time period in which the ripple effect started happening, even in other cities, like funk just spread throughout, Dayton, Columbus, Cleveland, and all over. So just as a 10-year-old, were you aware of James Brown's presence in the city? I feel like I didn't know it officially, but I felt the presence. Like, the first concert I ever went to was a James Brown concert at the same. Cincinnati Convention Center and I hung outside and I met Macy O. Parker and that was that was a big deal for me like literally walking down the street outside the convention center and also King Records was
Starting point is 00:41:23 like a few doors down from like my karate school as a kid right so I would go to karate school and when I and wait on the bus right take the bus home afterwards and I knew that that was King record. So I never saw a soul, but I was just stare at it. I felt drawn to it. But then as I got like slightly older, all the musicians in Cincinnati were all so impacted by Bootsie and James Brown, but more Bootsie, to be honest, right? James was like the godfather of soul, but Bootsie was our local superstar. So everything that Bootsie did, we all, you know, aspired to do. Bootsy holds his base this way. So you hold your base like Bootsy, right?
Starting point is 00:42:10 Or Bootsy wears these kind of shoes. Or he has these. Everything was about whatever Bootsy did was the magic, you know. And he was like a god to us. James Brown needed Booty more than Booty needed James. Even though Booty needed that guidance. Right. Yeah, James Brown needed that validation of, you know, the next generation,
Starting point is 00:42:33 respecting him. And what was the first song? Super Bad. Very first song was sex machine. Sex machine was Bootsie? Very first one. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:43 You got it. There's an amazing. All right. So they did that song in two takes. And there's a really amazing rare dialogue for James. Like if you listen to James's outtakes, normally it's sarcasm or, I mean, not like mean spirit, but like if they mess up or whatever, you'll, you'll hear them like chastise, the engineer or something like that.
Starting point is 00:43:07 But when they do the second take of sex machine, there's like a 45 minute conversation of James just like, you hear him walking in the studio and tell them like, like being encouraging, almost like, which is rare for James Brown. But he's like, obviously knows like these,
Starting point is 00:43:25 these 16, 18 year old kids are really, really scared right now. And he's just, oh, no, you got it, man. Like, you can do it.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Like, which is, oh, wow, compared to the rest of what James, does like on the other takes or whatnot. Like, it's almost like he knew that he was dealing with children. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:46 So he had some sensitivity. And he was, yeah, that's great. All right. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,
Starting point is 00:44:08 or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform. became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that
Starting point is 00:44:23 not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told,
Starting point is 00:44:40 and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:44:59 What's up, everyone? I'm Ago Wodam. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and The Big Money Players Network. It's Will Farrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're bang.
Starting point is 00:45:40 hanging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:46:04 podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for, to the biggest mistakes franchises make, to the players
Starting point is 00:46:25 flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Tim B. Slica Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:46:46 In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so much, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, the lesbian, Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield. And in this new season of The Girlfriends,
Starting point is 00:48:16 Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target.
Starting point is 00:48:36 He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Right, here is DJ Premier. Premiere. Fun fact about Premiere. Secret comedian.
Starting point is 00:49:00 See, that was Premier playing piano right now. So, to be fair, when this episode aired in 2017, I didn't ask the question. We were just in the studio talking. And Premier shared this, but it fits. You know, whenever the two of us get to talk. We have a lot to say. So, Premier. For me, it was, my mom, it is an art teacher,
Starting point is 00:49:25 and she just had so many records in the house. You know, the rules where don't touch the top of the record, only hold the edges, or you get a, a, we call it a whooping, not a spanking, a whooping. I touch the top because I just wanted to see what it's touching the top do. She goes, you got your fingerprints on, you dumb motherfucker, smack, smack. You know, like, and then, but I mean, I got plenty of weapons because, you know, I, I looked at records as a toy because the labels was what attracted me.
Starting point is 00:49:57 The way they looked when they spun, I was really attracted to the labels. You know, it was like, wow, Motown, the way it looked in Tamla. Dartskin Motown versus Lighten. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I thought I was the only one that made that. Oh, like the blue versus the yellow and the brown. Tamla was the yellow and the brown. Harry Wagner once at Universal explained to me that because Motown used 18 different factories across the United States to print their, like they didn't do their own pressing.
Starting point is 00:50:28 It was never consistent. So the ink would be consistent. So you would have some Motown print that had a very dark hue to it. And then you had a lighter motel. But sometimes even the Tamila would be a very dark label versus. as a light one. Like, it would just Gordy.
Starting point is 00:50:49 It would depend on, you know, what pressing plant you used. Yeah, but the label's always fascinated me just the way it looked when it spun. And then on top of that, you know, you had semi-autom, you know, they went to semi-automatics, but it was almost like a gun,
Starting point is 00:51:03 but they were fully automatic turntables, which at that time, my mother called it a record player, not a turntable. So seeing her stack the spindle with the, that looks like a bottle rocket, whatever and stack that and then put five 45s on there and let the arm hold it and then the arm
Starting point is 00:51:21 goes up, touches it, goes back, the record drops in it. I'm like, how does it know to land there? Like, you know, so I took hers apart which got me a... Oh shit, I'm going to say, what did that get you? Because I wanted to see the mechanics of what's making it do that and know where to land. And then on top
Starting point is 00:51:37 it when you put a you know, an album, it knew to start at the album where it's like, how it's not go here, but on the 45 it goes all the way and Tine lands right on the tan. I was into jukeboxes, too. I would just stare at the jukebox because almost any restaurant back then had a jukebox and I would just stare at and watch it shuffle the records and then, you know, like that.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I know. I'm like, that's why he's like happy days, you know, because I don't feel crazy. I used to do the same stuff. I do not feel crazy. I used to the same stuff. Happy days, man. Would you rotate records without even listening to it just to see what it look like spinning? Yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Were you biased against labels that you didn't like copy-wise? Even if it had good music. Did you judge it on the label? The judge is on the label, like I do now. Like, I never liked Capitol. So, thus, it took me a long time, like, especially old-way of purple capital or orange capital. Like, Nat King Cold Capital. Okay, the black with a rainbow around the rainbow.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Yeah, that's why I never touched my dad's Capitol records. Right. It took me wrong to get in the Beatles and Beachport, like, all that stuff. Wow. Who had the same one? Who had the best label? Who was the, like, the one? I used to like Warner Brothers. You know what?
Starting point is 00:52:42 Scary labels used to scare me. I never liked Buddha. Yeah, with the little band at the bottom. I like Kurt Tom. Well, here's the thing, though. You like Kurt Tom? Yeah. I scared as shit at it.
Starting point is 00:52:58 We literally fixed out of mouth to say that at the same time. I had two figures. I would never, to listen to if there's hell below, we all got to go. We're all going to go with all that psychedelic echo effect to it. In the dark as a three-year-old watching that Kurt-Tom label, In the, nah. You really going to go.
Starting point is 00:53:17 But I'd be obsessed with it. Like, I make them put it on. Then I run upstairs and hide under the covers. I only, I hit under the covers when Jaws came out because I thought the shark could come in. But I'm like, and if you think about it, the shark can't swim without water. Right. But I just remember going to see Jaws with my family and just that tune, doon, doon, doom, doom, doom, I was so scared of staying by myself. You know, my parents let us stay by herself at a young age because it's just like that in the South.
Starting point is 00:53:45 You know, you leave your door unlocked and people just walk in, you know, like, I'm from that. Like, hey, hey, hey, hey, you're dad at home. It's not, you know, unchained five, I learned that when I came to New York. And my mom's from Baltimore. So even when we used to stay at my grandmother's house, same thing. They had all these locks. And you just like, damn, you know, what's the, you know. But then you see the corner store right outside the house where everybody's fighting and screaming.
Starting point is 00:54:15 and breaking glass and I'm like oh I want to go home I want to go back to Texas you know and then you get to the teenage age where it's like I love all this violent stuff you know and that's when the changes started the change started to come your uh shop Sam Cooke your father he was a professor at pre-review yeah yeah and he was my dean yeah imagine that so you went for free no what well I mean yeah he paid for it yeah what was your major what was your major computer science but I'm not and no of those languages exist. You know, I took Fortran and Basic and Cobol. Yeah, yeah. None of them. And now, you can't get your receipt back. Nah, no, no.
Starting point is 00:54:56 So wait, if the, if the turntable was such a sacred holy ground in your household, what happened the very first time you ever heard the adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the wheels of steel? Oh, man. Did you hear it as a youngster? In Texas? No, I was going back and forth because my grandfather lived in Brooklyn. That's how the first Brooklyn connection happened because he lived in Brooklyn. So being staying with him, he and I used to always go to a, I was really in the pinball games heavy as a kid.
Starting point is 00:55:34 So he's always taken me to playland in Times Square. And then we always go to a Yankee game. So I was so used to going to baseball games with him. And so I got into baseball, I played when I was young. and he's the one that got me into that and then he used to tour with his band and he played trombone, trumpet, guitar, and upright bass. So he used to always show me all the pictures
Starting point is 00:55:54 like, yeah, this is when I was in Germany, this is when I was here, this is when I was there. And I remember his wife, Rune, God bless her. She's always going, oh, Bill, there you go. He loves to brag about all the places he's been. But for me, it was like, wow, all this music took you all these places, you know? So I wanted to do that same thing.
Starting point is 00:56:13 landed to see. Yeah, but so. So it wasn't like you scratched on the home term table in... No, not then, but by the time scratching came out, I just wanted to figure out how are they able to bring it back like that. And then my homie, who was still a friend of mine, R.P. Cola, his name is Randy Pettis. He went to my college.
Starting point is 00:56:31 So I didn't really understand the scratching aspect as far as how they're making the record come back until like 1985 when, 84, I'm sorry, 84 when I was in college. because I graduated high school in 84 my freshman year in college I went I went to summer school just so I just wanted to be in college so bad because you know just to get away hang out with all the people and we don't we only live five minutes from the college
Starting point is 00:56:54 but it's still a different word when you live on campus now on the dorms and with the boys we're drinking we're doing all the stuff that you want to do away from your parents and and I just remember man he was scratching and he had these felt pads on there and I was like yo
Starting point is 00:57:09 how are you doing that And he was like, I'll show you. He said, come to my dorm. And I went to his dorm. He showed me how to cut on his old, big Gemini. It was a big Gemini mixer. It was silver with wood on the side. That's all I remember, the big silver, damn, you had to run to get the cross phase.
Starting point is 00:57:26 And he was. Catch the terrain. And the way the dorms were set up, shot to Holly Hall. That was the dorm of all the wildness. The way he had to set up, he had two on the right because he couldn't. That was my next question. He couldn't do left and right. But he cut left and right.
Starting point is 00:57:41 But only when he was doing the gigs at his dorm, he would set him up on the right. So being I got so used to learning it that way, I just stuck with that way. I got better now to cross over and everything, but now I don't want him that way. But if it's set up that way, I'm still nice to do it with him on the right. And then the second thing that led me just keeping it on the right was when Malcolm McLaren and the World Famous Supreme Team came out with the album, Do You Like Scratching? You see the turntapables together. Yeah, the turntables together on the cover,
Starting point is 00:58:12 and the mixer is the GLI mixer in the front. So I was like, I want to do that, but I'm just going to move them back over, like, the way RP taught me. All right, so when anyone ever asked me, like, what is the most exemplary episode to listen to? I always refer them to the great Jimmy Jam. One of my favorite QLS episodes of all time.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I'm talking about musical diversity and is upbringing. my earliest memories were always you know I always loved the harmony groups I loved Seals and Cross America America wow yeah you know that kind of stuff bread that was I mean to this day that's the way I stack my harmonies because of the way they sang those songs back then
Starting point is 00:58:59 a little bit later in life I liked like around the time I met Terry I was really into Chicago that was that was my favorite band ever you know and me and Terry both loved them. And then Terry then turned me on to when I met him, he turned me on to Earth Win and Fire, Tower of Power, New Birth. I met Terry in 72. Okay. Yeah. So we're talking last days in time, Earth, Wind and Fire, and music in my mind, Stevie Wonder, you know, these were the albums that Terry turned me on to those records. So Black Radio, you didn't have a Black Radio
Starting point is 00:59:31 experience at the age of 10, 1112. There wasn't a Black Radio experience for me. When I got into high school I was really into junior high and into high school I was really into gammon huff and everything coming out of Philadelphia Blue Magic was my favorite all-time group I know everybody was into stylistics but Blue Magic was my group but how could you hear it or see it was Soul Train a thing or yes Soul Train definitely was on yes and you definitely would hear it on Soul Train but I I remember I had a friend of mine whose dad was um an executive of Music Land which was one of the big retail stores back in the day so he used to get every single record that came out.
Starting point is 01:00:10 And my thing was I was always a big liner note reader and a big label reader. So my thing was... Wait, we all collectively pointed Fanté and Bill. Yes. So my whole thing was, I remember there were records that would come out. And I would, particularly during the Motown era, because I really love the Motown records, all of that stuff, the Hall of Dozier, Holland. Like, I remember, I remember looking at a Supremes album.
Starting point is 01:00:37 at like a family reunion or something back in 62 or something or 60. I was like three or four years old. And I remember that Holland Dozier Holland. It was the album was called the Supreme Sing Holland Dozier Holland. That gold record. And I, the gold record, right? I had no idea what that meant. I kept going, what does this mean?
Starting point is 01:00:55 What do you mean they're singing Holland, Dozier, Holland? And somebody explained to me, no, they wrote the songs. The girls are the singers, but somebody wrote the songs. And something went off in my head at that point that always made me look, who wrote it, who produced it. And so I remember, like, all the Motown records would be the first ones I'd always go to. And I remember, like, staring at the first time I heard I want you back, Jackson 5. And, you know, Dina Ross presents the Jackson 5.
Starting point is 01:01:24 And I thought, oh, wow, that's cool. And I looked down the record. I'm like, well, I don't see Dina Ross's name anywhere on here. There's some dudes called the Corporation. I got to find out who the corporation is. You know, so that was always my thing. And I knew that because what I learned was there were certain, there were groups I liked, but it was all about who produced them.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Like it was like, you know, like Eddie Kendricks could come out with a song and I would be like, yeah, that's okay. And then he'd come out with a song. I go, oh, I love that song. Okay, who did that song? Okay, Leonard Kasten and, you know, Frank Wilson and okay. And then I'd hear another song that had nothing to do with Eddie. Kendrick's, but I'd go, oh, I like that track.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Who did that? And it'd be the same dudes, right? And that's when I got, that's when I started going, okay, that's my thing. And so for me, that's what always excited me. And that's what, you know, ultimately made me want to become a songwriter and a producer. We're going to close with Adam Levine. This is from an in studio in 2024 episode. And it really just captures the rabbit holdness of QLS. us. Eddie Grant and the Cat Stevens and everywhere in between. And we'll close this and we'll
Starting point is 01:02:40 catch up with you guys soon. All right. Thank you. What was your very first musical memory in life? I mean, I know the first record I bought, other than my parents playing music in the car. Right. Which is probably always the Beatles. This is so funny, but I remember very distinctly buying the Eddie Grant Electric Avenue single. Electric Avenue. But it was like a tick I played the song.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Like my parents were like, I never need to hear the song again. So what it's not unusual is to John Malini. That's what Electric Avenue was to use the kid. It was like ad nauseum all day long. Please God, I don't ever want to hear it again. That was a fun song. That's a great song.
Starting point is 01:03:24 That song comes on. That song holds up. Dude, Jimmy wanted him on the show to do Electric Avenue. And the first thing he wanted him wanted to do you know like artists might have that smells like teen spirit moment where they don't want to do the song that they're known for like Bobby McFerrin like like yeah like I won't do like don't worry happy like like I play that like play that
Starting point is 01:03:48 listen to the song and realize what it's about and then realize you should play it okay when he came on the show you remember this Steve he wanted to do like a different version of it he wanted to mix it with I don't want to dance like the other minor hits that he wanted to do the B-side Time Warp. Yes! Yo, wait! So do you know about Time War? No.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Dude, so Time Warp is... I didn't even notice this, but we've all heard Time Warp. Which Time War? So Time War is kind of a song of his that was like a B-side that wound up being... Not him going rogue.
Starting point is 01:04:22 The only way I can describe it, you know, like, Dog was a donut on Kat Stevens''s record? Wow, that's a good metaphor. That is a deep cut. It's like an instrumental, right? It's an instrumental. Okay, so.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Mr. Encyclopedia. Yeah, right? No, no, no. In 77, Cat Stevens had a synthesizer endorsement deal with the company, of which he promised, like, okay, one of these songs, I'll play your instruments on the record. But Cat Stevens ain't necessarily a synth-based artist. He's like acoustic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:51 You don't say. Right. And so, basically, the penultimate cut, like the song before the album ends, he did a quick little four-minute demonstration song of this new drumming. drum machine and whatever and it actually fucked around and wound up being like a B-boy classic Who you talk about right now? Kat Stevens. Which we're getting back to.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Thanks for asking Adam. Let's get to Eddie Grant and then back to my mind just exploded. Welcome to Questlach room. No, this dog was a donut by... Boom, boom, boom. Oh, okay, yeah. Right, which is basically like... So this is Kat Stevens.
Starting point is 01:05:30 That's what you went. Adam's like, where did we start with this? That's not Castile. It is. It is. Because he contractually had to make a song up with all this drum machine. That's a weird contractual obligation. 1977.
Starting point is 01:05:44 He was the first with a lindrum and all that stuff. So he made this shit. And, of course, the B-Boy community... Crap work. Immediately picked up on it, and it became a classic, unbeknownst to him. But the same with Eddie Grant. Eddie Grant did kind of an Oberheim synthesizer song called Time Work, which is
Starting point is 01:06:03 he had a foot in that door already though the cast even shit is crazy I never heard anything like that in my life from him like what was that I want to hear it I didn't know that was him right none of us knew it was him you gotta get this this is the side of electric avenue
Starting point is 01:06:19 so basically at Paradise Garage this became an anthem and if it's played at Paradise Garage it also means that at Crocker is also playing it on his radio show. So, Eddie Grant wanted to come
Starting point is 01:06:36 and do time work. We got that. We got it. Full circle. Oh, I'm very there. I'm very focused in the morning. Fucked you.
Starting point is 01:06:44 And now the show's over. Thank you very much to do it on my show. Thank you, Andy Grant. Andy Grant really fucked us. Anyway, so you loved Electric Avenue.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Yeah. That's the point. That's the point. Bam. He came on the show and wanted to do the B-side. Yeah. Which is crazy.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Jimmy is always, watching the music guests from his dressing room or his office, because he has a monitor in there. And he tries not to come out and freak out the people that early in the morning. But that's the one time in which, you know, we're like, okay, so we'll do one verse of Electric Avenue, then we'll do Time Warp, in which you're not singing at all. And then Jimmy ran in and it was like, guys, no,
Starting point is 01:07:23 I need you to do Electric Avenue. And then at that, he wanted to do like a blues harmonica version of it. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, it's hard when that's like So we had to wrestle him Right, we had to wrestle them out of that And just do regular ass Electric Gavin.
Starting point is 01:07:40 You guys had already like sample all the weird little samples And all the little Yeah, all those little Burbs and Sprangh all that's like Ray Parker Not doing Ghostbusters, some shit like that. True. Yeah, true. So Huey Lewis not doing Ghostbusters. Deep cut.
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