The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: QLS Decade In Review ft. Wyatt Cenac

Episode Date: December 25, 2019

Questlove and Team Supreme recap the 2010's with special guest Wyatt Cenac. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio. Here we go. Suprema, Suprema role call. Supraima roll call. Supriama. Why about you? Role call.

Suprema, get it together a mayor. We lost our heroes. Yeah. We lost our leaders. Yeah. We lost our minds. Yeah.

And I'm so happy. Roll call. Supremma, Supremma, Supremma role call. Supremma, Sub prima role call. Merry Christmas.

Yeah. My name is Sugar. Yeah. Happy New Year. Yeah. Motherfuckers. Role car. Suprema.

Suprema, sub, sub, subprima roll call. Suprema, sub, subprima, roll call. Season's greetings. Yeah. Goodbye 2010s. Yeah. Peace out to my 30s. Yeah.

Hello to my 40s. Roll call. Supremea. Supraima, sub, sub, subprima, role call. What you all know? Suprema, SETA. SAC. It's why I am.

Yeah. Y'all know what it is. Yeah. Don't know about Christmas. Yeah. But happy quinds and kids. Roll call. Suprema.

Suprema, sub, subprima roll call. Suprema, sub, subprima, roll call. Oh, is it my turn? Yes. I wasn't prepared. I'm just reading Ralph reviews of McDonald's. Roll call. Roll call.

Suprema. Srema, sub, subprima roll call. Suprema, sub, subprima, subprima. Suprema. Suprema, Subima, Subra, Suprema Roca. Suprima, Subrima, Subrera, Roca. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Questlove Supreme, the year-end edition. But of course, being as though we are facing 2020, we decided to up the ante and make it a decade-end addition for Questlove Supreme.

Let's welcome our very jovial, festive. The whole decade? I can't. I'm supposed to remember what happened. Dude, you got a fucking excellent job this decade. No, that was like a decade before. I remember. You got to produce your hero highlights.

But how am I supposed to remember all the movies that came out and all the songs? See, I'm, anyway. So, ladies and gentlemen, welcome. You already know what we're hitting for, y'all. So just, you know, praise yourself. Yeah. Yeah, Sugar Steve. Hello, how are you?

Happy Kwanza. Happy, happy. Happy Chaka Khan. Yes, you see what I'm saying? I love you, Steve. Happy Chaka Khan. Thanks so much. What you get this morning?

The deposit set. Okay. See, you got money for Christmas? Yeah. Or Chaka Khan? Yeah, you just get a statement. Okay. That's cool.

How long has this been going on? As long as I've known you, you're the happiest during this time of year because you get a big-ass check. Going on for 5,000 years, my man. What's the increase on that thing, Steve? Like, as you get older, because it ain't the same for when you was young. Like, does he do it, like, so it'll last you for the year? Well, that's what it used to be when I was broke.

That money would be for the year. But, you know, like you said, now that I got a good job. We're just putting it away for the future generations of the Jews. Okay. Oh, shit. That's how you're going to do that. That's dope. case, yeah, he's saving up so he can't leave us?

Well, you know, can I brought $5, Steve? I don't have any kids, so my nieces are going to get everything. Oh, okay. Cool, cool. Okay. A lot. And this is the same, five figures. This is the same for your siblings?

Yeah. You got siblings? Yeah, an older sister. Oh, yeah, man. So Uncle Steve. Like, his one of your nieces goes, yeah, to school. Peace. Yeah.

Yeah. In my neighborhood. Wait, what is the? What is this check? Yeah, he gets a Hanukkah check every year. Oh. And it's so, it's, it's the happiest you'll ever see him throughout the year. Oh, okay.

Jewish thing, strange voice. In the memo on the check, my dad writes, guilt. Oh. Are you serious? You serious? His guilt, not mine. We believe everything you say, Steve. Anyway, we also got boss Bill.

Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. And how was your Christmas? That's good. I'm actually broadcasting to you guys live from my mom's couch. Okay. So I see that. Laia, happy Kwanza.

Wait, do you celebrate anything? What? Do you celebrate the holidays? Yeah. Okay. I'm on my mom's couch because it's Christmas. I'm not in New York. I just feel like it's one of those things.

You don't have to play with the people like that day. They're smart. No, we got TikTok. Dude, we got eye heart level. Merry Christmas. That's right. Yeah, anyway. So, yeah, how are you?

It's called Skype. Exactly. I'm great. I'm great, y'all. I haven't done Christmas since I became of age, but happy holidays. Okay. Did you buy for a lot of people? No, I only buy for the boo at this point.

Oh, how's that going? It's going good. Oh, I know. Me and you, buddy. I know. We booed up, not respectively, but I mean, yes, we're... A hit song in the 2010. Yes, we're respectively booed up.

Let's welcome our special guest, ladies and gentlemen. Friend of the show, even though this is the first time he's been on the show. but I actually consider this person a friend, not just a peer of mind that's also in the same industry that I'm in. Wyatt is a very kind of a guy full of wisdom. And, you know, kind of my go-to person when I have questions about... Anything? Well, I mean, the few mistakes.

Why do babies come from? Well, I don't get existentialist. I did answer that. question for Amir. Anyway. It was a long day with a PowerPoint presentation. And we got there. Let's welcome Wyatt Cynic to Questlove Supreme,

ladies and gentlemen. He didn't say your last name right, did he? No, he did. Are you a CNAX? Cinnac. Cinnac. Oh, I messed up the Annunciation of it.

Sure, yeah, you did. But we're good friends. It's the announcement. You always got a connection. We're such great friends. Sinek, I Merry Christmas, good friend. God bless us everyone.

Where's that? It's in me now watching, you and Bill have a very eerily. You're very similar. And your face area. Your face areas are a little similar. So even the demeanor, like both of you are dressed alike. Did you guys coordinate this? No, no.

No. You both have black hoodies on. Bill always weird. You guys are kind of like the black version of the trench coat mafia. We got a lot. That's funny. But we're just going to walk up into a place and make music. Spread cheer, exactly.

I got tons of beats. I got so many beats. We took a picture like 10 years ago. It's just to prove that we were two separate people. Because, like, yeah, I kept getting, you look a lot like Wyatt, you know. And that was from his family members. Speaking of pictures from a long time ago, I made this weird discovery.

Only if you are kind of a day one, well, I don't want to use a Drake term, but if you were a day one... You can use a Drake term. Okay. If you were day one of OK player, whom I call vets. Oh, no.

How is this for the strangest turnaround possible? Bill, do you remember Stalker of the Month one okay player Yes All right So Oh wow There's a situation where like

I don't know Maybe I handed out my My beeper number out To you know To a few people But you know Not thinking anything of it You just give your beeper number out

Not your personal Beeper For those that are listening That were born after 1990 Or that aren't doctors Yeah That was Do Beaver still exist?

Yeah. Okay. I have three. But you're not a doctor. You don't know that. So anyway, the point being, this is starting to feel like an NPR. This feels like an NPR episode already.

Because y'all ain't had a sip yet. That's all right. Yeah, can we have some duce? Yeah. Oh, look at you. I'm so proud of my baby. He comes so far. Y'all don't know.

Remember he used to just drink Framois? I'm just, y'all don't understand. This is just so big. Anyway. Okay. He was on that lambic. Yeah. Anyway, all right, so check it.

So there was this person that just kept calling and calling and calling and calling and calling the phone. And it was becoming problematic. And so this is like, you know, the earliest, 1998 during the age of the Internet's, kind of early years, formative years. Anyway, so we were building OK player and my partner, Angie, Nissel, and I decided to start something called the OK player stalker of the month.

So this guy used to leave these long message about how the roots were, you know, these angelic heroes. So long story short, I changed the beeper number and I decided, I guess, for my safety, to sort of put these messages up on an okay player to sort of deter or just in case something happened. Yeah, in case something happened to me. I have the strangest feeling that I just hired that person to be in my band.

What? Wait. Wait. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. There was an opening in the band? Breaking news. Breaking news. There was a new band member.

Yeah. Wait, this is all I'm saying. This is all I'm saying. This is all I'm saying. One of the old administrators of OK player hands me this old-ass photo of me at a record store in Canada with a guy with the afro and it's in its Stro-Elliott. What?

Oh, shit. And I was like, wait a minute. That's the OK player stalker of them. Way to go, Stro. Oh, that's good. Now that's evolution. That's good. Yeah, so anyway, that's how.

all my years going. Yeah. That's a good one. When someone stalks you and waits for 20 years. Yeah. Then you hire them to be in your band. Stro, I admire your long game. Chicken.

Well done. That's also a very different ending for misery. Or we're not there yet. It could be. It's just the beginning. Yeah, this is just the beginning. If you see a sledge hand. A lock of wood between

Between Amir's feet and Stro just taking a sledgehammer to him Until you finish those beats I don't know Kathy Bates hasn't been around the NBC building lately has she No she isn't I wouldn't mind if Stroh murdered me you know Like if anybody's gonna murder me I'd be cool with it

Let it be Strow Yeah if it was Stry I'd be like whatever He probably had a reason Oh that's sweet Probably make a fire beat out of it too We already We're doing y'all We tease Strow a lot because

Well, because show kind of looks like Like the black version of Dexter Not Dexter's Lab The Murderer? Dexter's Lab, the cartoonist Oh, okay. Yeah, so we always joke that You know.

You thought the murderer, right, Wyatt? No, I said Dexter, you didn't think murderer? No. Not Lumberjack, Dexter. That was also something that happened in 2010s. Yes, it was! We need to get to that, because that shit. Are we talking about Dexter?

Are we talking about what you're talking about? I'm talking about Showtime Dexter. Me too. Yes. Yeah, that's what I meant. I was saying that, not Showtime, Dexter. So, all right, here's the thing. All of us are supposed to go in. Showtime. Dexter is a guy who just hangs out on the queue train and dances. You need to clarify. You mean the Showtime. TV network, Dexter, not showtime Dexter, who dances. Different guy. Yeah. Yeah, different. And tries not to kick people in the face. Yeah. But he always does. Yeah. Well, I know, I know this conversation is going to take a term for the worst. what I would like to do at least is to start of the bright spot. Now, I told everyone here to at least come up with things that made them happy during the decade for, you know, between TV, movies and albums and whatever forms of entertainment. So in compiling my list, I realized that I've consumed a lot more, way much more television. than any human being probably should have.

Me too, Amir. And it's in your period. I think TV has become my records. Yeah, it's becoming that way for me too. Can I have your records then? No, absolutely not. But yet and still, I've consumed a whole lot of music, but not in a tangible way where it's like,

you know, I didn't invest in these records. Like, I just heard them and streamed them. So, I mean, this is the first decade of really, like, full streaming. So it's... Remember when you used to go buy, like, 10 copies of people's records? I remember when you used to do that. I still do it. I mean, but it's just hard as hell to do it.

You know, I'd purchase, like, 20 black massized. Oh. But I bought three. But that's like buying $20 now. So you think you're interested, like, why do you think this is? As a DJ and a member of the Tonight Show, I'm very much aware of what's happening in music, but it's so much overload that I'm a little dismayed that my,

not to mention all the deaths of my heroes at alarming rates. So I just have this, I don't know, this, I think music is now sort of like, to me, what bread is to us or water. There's a lot more to watch also, you know. Yeah, television, they really up their games these last in years. Well, television is like the new movies, too. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know if it's fair of movie stars. Like, for Murrell Street to come to, what's the HBO show? Big Lies? Yeah, big little lies. Like, I think that's so unfair. Like, it's like, okay, you know you're going to give her the Emmy.

Well, but it's funny because you say that's unfair, but there was a time in, like, the 80s and 90s where for, like, movie star to wind up on television. It was like something bad happened in their career. It was, you know, the equivalent of like going and playing Las Vegas or something like that. But everyone's, but that to me is also, that is what's happening. Everyone, everyone's plan B winds up being their work, you know, no matter how much into

now I am. Like, you know, I'm now 10 years into the tonight. show game. And it doesn't... You don't have to brag. Yeah, that's your humble brag for the It doesn't... No, it just

it doesn't sting as much when like people yell hey, that's Jimmy Fallon's drummer as it did during the first four years. As if, you know, the first four years,

I felt like that's like a person going under the Michael Jordan be like, oh, you're the actor in those Haynes commercials. Or like, Oh, you're Phil Jackson's shooting guard. Yeah, sort of like that.

Yeah. Sort of that way. Like Jimmy is the Phil Jackson of the 94 Chicago Bulls. Let's go with the Haynes analogy. I liked mine better. I'm with why, but that's not because we look alike. Okay, so I know that we said one thing of each, but. No, yeah, no, I didn't work with me.

I did like that way. I got a list. All right. A few of us. I forget. What is it? Delia, what's your, what was your five TV shows?

So here's a deal. I did TV shows, but I also think it's weird because now we're in a decade where we have all these streaming services, right? So if you just shout out Netflix, you got to like just give honorary to like master. I said master's of none Netflix,

Black Mirror, Orange and New Black like things. Yeah, I consider those TV shows. Right, they are. But I don't want that to be a part of my list. I just want to be Netflix and subgenres. All right. So go ahead. Start with.

ATL. Of course. Atlanta. Atlanta. I agree with you. Game of Thrones. Yes. Yes. Walking Dead. Really? All right. Do me a favor. Sell me on the Walking Dead. That's a powerhouse show that I made a decision to not invest in, even though America's obsessed with it.

Yeah, I skip that one too. And shout out to AMC. I still love you. Don't drop me yet. But if not even just for the fall in love of what's my girl, deny, because, you know, Black Panther and evolution of her in the last 10 years. But no, Walking Dead is like dope, especially if you're a Game and Thrones Watcher, you like a long kind of show situation because you become loyal to the characters. And you know it's such an amazing ensemble of actors that intertwine and change around. That is just dope. It's like, and it's like, of course, what would happen to us if all of a sudden it was a disease

and the whole fucking, you know, world turned to zombies? Do they explain why they're in Georgia and all the zombies are white? There are no black people There are black zombies Blombies Let me know You know I audit for that They're just ashy

Yeah they just ashy Thank you Sheree Steve They're very ashy Blombies I said Blombie Blombies And there have to be Black zombies

Because there are black Like celebrities That are in the show Like the girl who now Has her Star Trek thing From Oh dang I forget her name

Senequa Martin Green Yeah you better know You do know You do know everything Why it's Sennack Sennack What is it Amir? Yeah

Amir Tell her. Cinco. Wow. Yeah, that's me. Why, why Cinco? Just go full on disrespectful. Do I go on?

Child of Norman Reedis, by the way. Yes. He is a cheese expert. Hmm? Yeah. I didn't know about the motorcycles. Okay. We, for some reason, we frequent the same cheese spot.

You have the same cheese monger? You have a cheese spot? You're older. You still eat cheese at your age? Because, you know, we lack of it. No, we are not lactose intolerant. Shit. I shop at Murray's Cheese, by the way.

Okay. And I give a lot of my friends who like fancy cheese stuff. Like you can send them, you can go to Murray's Cheese and they have classes and teach you on to make molds and stuff. That's fascinating. And so you've sent a gift to friends to go make cheese? Yeah. Okay. Uh, Zara's almond.

Okay. Cheese expert. I put her in the cheese of the month club for a birthday once, and she ate three months worth of cheese in about a week and a half. Wash it down with a quart of lemon juice. Exactly. And you're sure you're not lactose intolerant. She's very rare.

It's very rare. No, I'm not. Because I'm just saying at night you might not know because I bust shots at night. Go ahead. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me.

Cliver Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life. mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told,

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There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man.

A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.

Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wodom. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live and the Big Money Players Network,

It's Will Farrell My dad gave me the best advice ever I went and had lunch with him one day And I was like And dad I think I want to really give this a shot I don't know what that means But I just know the groundlings I'm working my way up through

And I know it's a place that come Look for up and coming talent He said if it was based solely on talent I wouldn't worry about you Which is really sweet Yeah He goes but there's so much luck involved And he's like

Just give it a shot He goes but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be.

Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. TV. Yeah, yeah, TV shows. I just also wanted to Ryan Murphy should be mentioned in the 2010s. I could not narrow down to just one show because it started with Glee.

Then it went to American Horror and then it went to American Horror. The first couple seasons, I was on board. And then it just got progressively worse. Oh, no, it's awesome. What do you talk about? Now, here's the weird thing. What are you talking about the witches? I thought American Horror Story and Walking Dead were the same joint.

Oh, my God. Amir, you're missing so much in life. Like, I'd rather you watch American Horror Stories before you get to Walking Dead because that's a commitment. You know what I'm saying? American Horror Story is different every season. What say you, Wyatt? Yeah, Wyatt. I've never seen either.

What? Do you have seen any Ryan Murphy programming? I think I saw some of... Pose. Did you see Pose? No, I saw the O-Jour show. I want to sit down and watch that one. I've been meaning to.

Pose is the kind of the... It's the Balls. Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, the Balls scene. Do one for best supporting... Billy Porter. Yes, he did.

Yes, he did. Yeah, no. I haven't. I have been meaning to, but my, where Amir apparently has all the time to both watch all of the television by all of the records and be gainfully employed at the Tonight Show. This staff is large, honey. You want to know what I did for the first time in the 2010s? What? I watched The Wire.

Oh, my God, Bill. You completed the Wire? I started it and finished it. You even got past season two? It took me a while, but you. Yeah. Season two is hard to get by. Season two, it took me forever.

Yeah, that's hard. Quiet? No, you're not even? No, I saw the first two seasons. What? See? You didn't get the three, four, and five? No.

It gets better after season two. Yeah, I was working. You know it's better? Oh, dude. See, the thing is, is that these shows I watch, I download on my phone or on my iPad. and I watch on the plane or watch backstage at the show. So that's how I have time to do it.

Which, by the way, life hack that I think I might have, for anybody that wants to cut chords, just figure out what shows you watch regularly and buy the season past and then cancel your cable. That's hard to do. You know what I did this? Not this Christmas morning. You know what I did last week?

All right. So I, because I have Apple TV. So once you have Apple TV, you don't have to also have your cable and all your backup plans either. But, yeah, I think I might have to do that. And that scares me to cancel my cable. Like, I canceled cable and I got with, was then direct TV now, and it's now ATT, or AT&T now or whatever.

They send another message about a channel they're losing. They keep losing channels. But hey, you can have that about you. Right. The reboot. Wait, wait. Wait, what happens? They keep jacking up their prices, too.

Like the whole selling point of that service was supposed to be. It was supposed to be cheaper than regular cable. Now it's about the same damn price. Yeah. They get you. I mean, they're all just bundling it into new cable packages. Like, that's, I feel like that's my conspiracy theory, not just mine, but like, okay, the cable model is a successful model. All of these bundlings, whether it's Disney Plus or, you know, Apple TV, like, they're just,

just finding new ways to be cable. And so at some point, they're going to offer you like, okay, yeah, we can give you all of these things. And then here are the special things. We can give you the, we can give you the Mandalorian or, as it should be called, the Baby Yoda Show. Oh, my God. I would like to also mention when they see us.

You know what? I didn't finish it. I couldn't finish it. I watched, I think the first part. Dude, episode four was hard, like, 12. years to slave hard. Wow. I skipped that one too.

I skipped that one too. I both of them sorry. Yes, she did. Yes, she did. Yes, she did. Wait, you just did a legit spit take. He said to be the slave. That was.

No, it was hard to stomach. It was. I just forgot about it. But that's weird. Wait, slight confession. I have no horses in the Disney race whatsoever. You sure? Well, here's the thing.

It's like I missed whatever. whatever Disney stuff came out when I was a kid Marvel though No Well here's the thing I didn't finish I wasn't

All right Like I didn't watch cartoons As a kid So all the Marvel stuff I wasn't allowed to watch You already know the Hawaiian punch Story already All right

You know Because you know there's a whole bunch of people That don't know that story So we're ahead and say it So basically When I was three There was a Hawaiian Punch commercial in which I think was culturally racist

where like the Hawaiian native guy named Punchy will go up to the white tourist and say, hey, how about a nice Hawaiian punch? And he'd be all annoying like, duh, sure. And then he beat the shit out of him and then sell you a fruit can of a wine punch.

Please tell me you didn't beat the shit out of some random white person on the street. No, I did it to my mother. So. Miss Jackie Price kicked your ass. Exactly. So then I say, hey, Mom, come here, ask me, say sure when I ask you for a wine. I remember this now. Right.

And then I said, Mom, I'm going to say hi about a nice and wine punch. And you say sure. Right. And then I cold clocked my mom and they were like, no more television for a mirror. So thus I missed out on the Disney train. Like I didn't see none of the cartoons and didn't watch Marvel. I was up on the Muppets. But basically when Disney Plus came,

I was like, that's a joke, let me. And then I realized never seen Bambi, never seen Dumbo, never seen Beauty and the Beast, never seen Lion King,

never seen Song of the South. Wait, here's the deal. Here's the deal. What's that? I've seen one Disney movie in my life and guess what it was?

Song of the South? That's a real Disney movie. Yeah, that's the one Disney movie that they do not want you to see. What is that? I want them to own their history. It's the racist as fuck Disney movie. The Disney movie.

The Disney movie. They basically did all of, it was like Uncle Remus and all of the Bray Rabbit stories. And they do a mix of live action and animation. And so it's this. In 1946. Yeah, it's this young. Uncle Remus was an old black man who befriended these white kids and told them stories of Brer Rabbit and Brayer Bunny. Sometimes it's better than that.

And they were like black-faced. Has anybody actually seen it? Has anybody here? Yeah. I've seen. Oh, other than you. Yeah. You can find it on...

I've studied here. I was going to say, it's on archive. I think it's archive.org has it. And you can watch it. I just found the 35 millimeter scan of it. When I last went to Disneyland... There are a lot of tiki tortures who are like, more people need to see this movie.

There are some really scary corners of the internet. When I last went to Disneyland, and it's a small world, you could see where they put a new page job where brayer rabbit and brayer bunny and uncle splash mountain is splash mountain is tied to all of that stuff really yeah yeah yeah oh so they just got rid of they got rid of brer rabbit i mean the interesting thing about brer rabbit is like all of those stories are like it's just like african folklore right that got co-opted by this white guy who then sold it and

as like books that, you know, sold it as a book of like, oh, these were stories that our old Negro told us. Right. And, but they're all based, like, Breer Rabbit is supposed to be, like, when you didn't, when you were on a plantation and you wanted to tell a story about how you maybe got one over on the overseer or the slave master, Brer Rabbit was the stand-in for black people. and Breer Fox and Brer Bear were plantation masters and overseers

and all these stories are rooted in telling these things. Slang encoded language. And it's like, and so there's this very weird thing of like, oh, there is something that's amazing about these stories is just a shame that it got co-opted. You know something? It's really like Brer Rabbit? That's weird.

It stands for, is like, short for Breyer. Oh, they said brother. Or brother, yeah, yeah. You know something? I was doing some research on, all right, this is going to sound weird. I want to step and fetch it. Oh, that's not weird. Well, okay, because the thing is, is that most people know that step and fetch it is sort of associated with like coonery and.

Not sort of, she's very much associated with it. You know, not many people know that Step and Fetchett funded one of the first black Shakespearean companies. that Paul Robeson and Harry Belafonte came from. And subsequently, Sidney 48 as well. And if you sort of look at the history of slang, it's almost... Slang was crucial to survival. I mean, it's a deep rabbit hole

because not many people know that. Sure. Laughing was illegal on the plantations. That's where Barrel laughs came from. We got to get Amalia in here. Yes, we do. which I'm going to get you your recommendation letter. Yes.

Shout out to Amalia who taught us that the idea of the term barrel laughs came from that laughing wasn't loud on the pill. Anything was sassing, getting angry, crying, talking back, laughing, talking, which is weird because the only thing that was allowed was singing. And so, you know, that's all the coated wade in the water and all that stuff to run away and escape, but people don't know is that slaves built a barrel and put water in it so that if you felt frustrated or angry or wanted to, ah, or go out your mind, you would have to dunk your head in the water, and that would suppress the sound, and you wouldn't get lashes for sassing back

or talking back. Right. So slang, to some port, slang was basically a way to survive, like humor. slang was for code talk, but humor was used as a weapon to sort of kind of put people at ease, the overseas at ease from killing you or slashing. So it's almost like I see Step and fetch it in almost a... There's a trickster. A different light now that I've realized that he might have been revolutionary.

Well, in some way, yeah, you could argue that he is a trickster in that he's presenting as one way to have a different, to have a different outcome. If he's presenting a subservient to white people, but then using his resources to help fund things that push for the advancement of black people, yeah, that's sort of a trickster, that's sort of a trickster role. So, yeah, I mean, are you pitching this to me? as the HBO documentary that you want to make. Step and fetch it, the trickster. You're giving away money, Amir. You should stop. You already did it.

Yeah, also, I don't work for HBO anymore, so I can't make it. Well, let's do it what? I mean, I have other things I'd like to make, but sure. But what you're saying, though, I mean, there's even something interesting about that, like thinking about how, like, Bill Cosby produced or gave money to sweet, sweetbacks. like he helped fund that and helped give Melvin Van people's the money he needed to make that movie

and yet at the same time was like forward facing was Mr. Holsom you know backwards facing a different a different dude yeah it's very hard to let him go now that I discovered that reruns are on Amazon

I still watch a reruns I yeah But I mean There's there are you know Other members of that family Of the Huxibles Exactly That's true

There are There are other members of the Huxtables All right So what else was your Your TV list Oh this is us This is us Are you

Is it as sad You know what I'm on season two I'm way behind Is it as sad as everyone No no Everything's not sad A lot of things are joyful

And some things are joyfully sad. You know, it's like, it's... But do you faithfully watch this as us? Fucking right, man. Ever since the first season, dedicated, man. Really? Yeah, because the writing is, like, amazing. Sterling Brown comes from there, like, hello, you watched

the evolution of him for the last 10 years. He's fucking dope. Yeah. Even in predators. Sterling Brown was in predators? Yeah, he was the bad guy, didn't. I pronounce it predators. You're going to fit right in around here. Oh, good, okay. And just in case you're getting bored with me, can I just do one more last final TV mention?

Sure. Anything that Kenya Bear has touched. I had to skip Grownish. Because we're too, some people are too old for Grownish. I had to skip Grownish because I remember college, I do not want to deal with that shit again. And it's like dirty different world. I like it. Like, that's why I skipped Dear White Hill as well.

Dirty different world. I don't want to deal with that shit again. Somebody's pregnant this season. What? Shit is real. And what? On Grownish. No more spoilers because I'm still watching that.

I love Grownish. I think I love growing this a little too much Like I just watched that shit It was like, oh, you dumb motherfucker You talk at the screen Yeah, yeah All right, so let's get to go I'll be shouting at the screen

And shout out to mixedish Shows to Angelina Who's had a great issue I love that shit I love that shit All right so what's your five joins? It started in the 2000s In the 2000s

But most of it was run In the 2010 So parks and recreation Of course, yes Might be one of my favorite television shows of all time I told you was the new Wu-Tang.

Yeah, it's probably one of the most perfect TV shows ever. I agree with you. Number two, and only the first season, true detective. Oh, of course you're right. Well, the third wasn't dead. What was the third? I didn't see the third season. I didn't see the third season.

I was going to say third. After that, weird-ass second season. Yeah. I didn't go back. I didn't go back. Number three, the leftovers. God, yes. Justin Thoreau.

Anything that Regina King was in, I just want to mention that? She did a great job in that. Hit me to the left. I've heard of the leftovers. I don't know what it is. What I loved about it is that it didn't really give the audience satisfying answers. And I just, that's what I loved most about it.

Because everybody was like, yeah. It's like a Spike Lee movie. Like, you know, everybody's watching the shit and you're like, oh, yeah, we're going to find out what happened. We're going to find out why all these people are left behind, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you don't really get the answer to that. And I think that's great that that answer was left kind of, kind of, kind of, kind of there.

And the concept alone, because these days, you don't get different concepts like that. People just, 10% of the population just drops out. Yeah, like, you don't, you don't get all the answers in that show. And that's one of the things I love most about it. So, you know, my imagination gets to fill in some of the blinks. Okay. What was that? Two or three.

No matter. That was three. Okay, three. Number four, Mr. Robot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's getting complicated.

I'm way behind on this last season. just going to binge a whole bunch of them because that's the show that I hate waiting week to week to watch. Wyatt, that seemed like you would like that show. Mr. Robot, you don't even have time for that one, either? I feel like I watched the first season and then I didn't pick up on the second season. It didn't entice you or you just like, I don't have time to...

I feel like it was maybe a mix of things. I think one of the challenges with television in this past decade, there's something that's very nice about shows not having to be sort of boxed into like a 22 episode season. And I do like that. I feel like 22 episodes, oftentimes, not every show needs that. Right.

Yeah, BBC gets that. Yeah, but the challenge is the television, the U.S. television sort of market it hasn't fully built itself to accommodate those shorter season shows. So if I watch 10 episodes of something, then it's about tracking when is the thing coming back. And when it comes back, is that the thing? Is that the thing that I want to re-engage with?

Is it going to be on the same night? Yeah, is it going to be the same night? Is it? And so I feel like that's one of those things that I don't think American television has done very well as far as trying to figure out like, okay, do we just make like a fall season and a spring season and a summer season? And we all as networks and streaming services kind of agree to that. They're not going to do that. No. And so I think that's where it's, it's tough because like the one thing they have agreed to is, okay, well, when September hits, you got new shows

coming out and there's all that excitement. But then, yeah, if some show pops up in October. It's kind of like, oh, wait, what? And don't forget, in the 2010s, we discovered the mid-season. What the fuck? Like, the mid-season finale the mid-like, what power did, and they split it out and half.

Damn, I just realized I forgot another show that I was supposed to call it. Power? No. Well, damn. Can I have like three more? Go ahead. All right. Scandal. Fuck it. Oh, look at you. I forgot about scam.

Yeah. Keep it in, good for you for keeping it real. Scandal, that was, I guess you could say that was my guilty pleasure. That was my guilty pleasure for the decade. But I actually thought scandal was good. It started out good. It ended, where, yeah, it went a little too long. It was like how to get away with murder.

But it was one of those shows that I had to. Yeah, I had to step off. Wait, what joins did you step off the train on? How to get away with murder? I stopped during the first season. Me too. Yeah. I stepped off the train.

Yeah, it just, I couldn't get into it. Like the characters, I didn't give a fuck about them. I didn't care what happened. It's Sean DeRiams loyalty. I wanted to. What? Oh, wait, wait. I got two more.

I got two more. Sorry. Y'all going to think I'm crazy for this one. I watch everything so. Dr. Pimple Popper. Oh, I've heard people like, too. You crazy for this one. Dude, she was in the hallway a month ago.

and Tarek and our makeup lady lost their minds. Yo. The Asian lady, whatever her name is. Sandra Lee. So people, do you know what this is? I do. I can't watch it. Do you know what this is?

I do. Steve? What? Are you reading? Dr. Pimple Popper Steve? Are you reading McDonald's Yelp reviews? So all you do, it's a television show of a sexy woman.

It's not how they sell it? She's just a dermatologist. Just a dermatologist. Why do you have to put your male gaze onto this? Let me tell you something. Dr. Pimple Popper is one of the most feel-good television shows you will ever watch in your entire life. Yes.

Like, she's out here changing people's lives. Like, you watch the backstory before the, you know, the patient comes in. And, you know, these people are having, like, serious problems, you know. They're like, you know, I've got this big thing on my neck that, you know, it's really affecting. I can't do such and such and such and such, you know, normal shit. And then they get this shit taken off their neck. And they're just, you know, they're crying, tears of

joys because they can do... They're like, now I can stalk a mirror. Before, I didn't want... So how they do a close up of it? Do they do like slow motion? You see anything. Isn't it just botched on people? I've never watched. No, like you see like she's either, you know, she'll sometimes

you know pop blackheads, which is some of them like the most satisfying shit to watch. Yeah, because I do like the pop shit. Yeah. And then like, you know, sometimes she, you know, she's removing cis from people or, you know, ever met a pimple she couldn't pop? I feel like there has been a couple of them, but like they weren't exactly pimples. All right.

So Steve, Steve knows Maria. I'm sorry, Rick, I can't help you. You're just going to have to kill yourself. I'll leave the room. Steve knows Maria at work. Now, my job, there's a woman that does our makeup and glam. And like, she lives for popping pimples, which I was taught in the beginning. Yeah, never pop a pimple.

It's a way. Dr. Oz says there's a way if you're going to do it. Yes. With a needle. Well, and a son in your heart. Yo, like, there's all the shit that she, you know, you just got to watch this shit.

It's just fascinating. Like, do you eat food when you watch this thing? Okay. Let me tell you, don't eat cottage cheese. Don't eat oatmeal. Mashed potatoes. Don't eat mashed potatoes. Collie flour.

And buffalo. Do not plan to handle raw chicken afterwards. What? Why does chicken? Because she also removes these things called lipomas, which are basically like fat deposits under the skin. And when she pulls them out, they basically look like raw chicken.

Like a raw chicken breast. Fat deposits. Yeah. You got to have a show or? Yeah. Jesus and Meryl. On showtime or on advice? On both.

Okay. Here's my confession. Since the move to showtime, I've been very slow to keep up. Really? I actually feel like the show's better. now that it's on Showtime. Really?

Yeah. All right. Well, I just miss the daily updates that I was... Yeah, I miss the daily updates too. I like it when it was like Talk Soup. But, you know, the level of guests they have now are higher. Like, just seeing Jesus and Meryl in a room with Elizabeth Warren. That's cool.

That's just weird as fuck. Well, not weird as fuck. It's just crazy as fuck. You know, or who else did they have? They have a lot of, the guests are a lot better. Okay. Now they're on showtime. So, what?

Are you a, are you a TV connoisseur or you're one of these Brooklyn cats that don't own a TV? I do own a television. I do watch television. I enjoy television. I feel like on some level because I work in television, I try to watch television when I can. But yeah, as far as shows. So here's the thing. You texted me and you were like, just pick a show for the decade.

Yeah, you're cool. And so I didn't necessarily see it as what my favorite shows were. I was looking like, what is a show that to me best defines the decade? You're so smart. Amir was right about you. Well, no, this was just, he was vague. Yeah, but did you remix that in your mind? Like, you, that's the way out.

Yeah. No, I mean, there are a lot of, like, Atlanta is a great show. I think, you know, there are shows where I think about, oh, for what they're doing as far as the culture and storytelling, the idea of... I was going to say, insecure. Atlanta, like, there are shows that are pushing what, you know, what television can be for both black creators and black viewers and hopefully, you know, all viewers. Somebody else is really blackety black and I am loving it. I just got to say.

Blombies. But if I was going to, yes, Blotianz. But thank you. We finally, we finally come together on something. Wait, what did you say, Blotience? Yeah, Blotianz. Isn't that what you said? Oh, I said Blombies.

I was talking about the black zombies. Oh, you're talking about black audience. But now you just coined a new phrase. Turn up Steve on the headphone station. No, I'm just going to turn Steve down. So I was thinking of shows that define the decade. And so to me, a show that defined the decade to me was breaking. Yes, yes.

And the reason I feel like it defined the decade is because there were a lot of shows in the last 10 years, not even say the last 15 years, that all kind of had a similar thing, which was like suburban white guys who aren't happy. just in their lives so let's give them some nefarious shit to do. So you look at like the sopranos and it's like oh here's a story about like a suburban dad who is works in construction

but it's like oh no that's not enough let's make him a mob boss. I mean if we really want to keep it funky Breaking Bad was just a gender flip version of weeds. Wow deep deep. But I feel like as a genre the last decade has been about like

all these beta white people trying to feel special. Like, there's nothing wrong. Like being a science teacher is like, oh, cool job. This is an amazing thing. And it's like, oh, no, let's make him a villain. And it just seemed like, oh, let's celebrate the worst in these people. And let's not like, there was a time when TV was like, oh, it's the white shadow. And it's like Dragnet where cops actually like, you know, talk to people as opposed to like,

cops who shoot up like, you know, just like, as opposed to cops, the TV show. Well, but it's, but it is this weird thing where I feel like this has been the decade of villainy and like, let's make regular people, like let's, let's normalize villainy in this way that it's not just the worst of the worst who can be villains. A science teacher can be a villain. Is it really normalizing villainy? I think that it is. I think that I was watching college basketball the other day

and there was a commercial for a lawnmower and it was a lawnmower called Bad Boy Lawnmowers. Bad boy. And there's just something about like... I mean, well, we had Bad Boy records in 94. Bad boy. But I think that was like slang-wise. It meant a different.

I think on some level, I'm not, I think it was different in a way that it was still counterculture in a way that was like, when you look at like these commercials, it's like, oh, here's some person in their khaki pants and their lawnmower. And it's like, I'm a bad boy with my lawnmower. Like homey in office space driving down the street listening to ghetto boys. Yeah. But not to mention like hot topics of like the decades or whatever, but you all remember the 2010s, but that goes. back to like the Esquire cover. Remember that? The Esquire cover with the American, what's it called?

An American boy with the white boy in danger and stuff. It all goes back. Never mind. Y'all don't remember this cover right here. Like this, the American boy was? Yeah, that little last thumbnail I can't see from 15 feet away. Shit.

Shit. It was, ah. Now my point is going to, people who are listening know what I'm talking about. Many way. No, I don't remember. I don't remember that. You don't remember this? As a conno.

What is that? What is that? This was, I'm sorry, here you go, Wyatt. Where you are? This was... Into the microphone, please. 2018, and the cover said an American boy, what is like to grow up white, middle class, and a male

in an era of social media, school shootings, toxic masculinity, hashtag me too, and a divided country. This was like a very controversial. We definitely need to talk about social media tonight. That was like that. You don't remember this? I remember that, yeah. But it is a weird thing when you look at television,

and it's like, it's kind of surprising that with all, all of the sort of villainy that has been presented that there hasn't yet been a show of like of a school shooter. Like that. Like you think about like what was the. I don't think of comedy. I don't like a comedy. Like I'm thinking about what was the show. American crime story, something like that to me?

Well, but what was the show that Claire, was it Claire Daines? No. My so-called life? No. Homeland. Homeland. Like that show. Like thinking about like a show like that where it's like, okay, what if we take a terrorist and we know.

normalize this white terrorist and we make them a flawed character that you should feel love for. And it just feels like, oh, okay, Dexter, let's take a serial killer and make them this flawed character that you should feel love for and breaking bad, like all of these shows. Brody became a billionaire on the ASEO. Isn't that kind of a trope that's been used by writers since day one? Brody became a billionaire. I was just saying Brody from that show is just interesting. that guy who you, they hear on the Claire Dane show.

Remember the first two seasons about Broiland? Homeland. Homeland. Brody became a billionaire, HBO. No, he's, that's billions. Billions. Yeah, that's completely unrelated. It is.

I'm just saying it's funny. So, um, but, um. Let me have my joy. Go ahead. I forgot what I was trying to say now because of, because of that. She's smoking her joy. No, but you were saying, you were talking about, because I was, I was saying all these villains.

It's kind of like a trope that writers have kind of used from day one, but by putting people in disparate situations. Sure, but I don't think it has been as focused on humanizing villains in the way that it has today. I got another one, Lucifer. I mean, Scarface. Lucifer, that was a good show too. I did watch. That was my guilty pleasure.

But Scarface, okay, name five more. Like I feel like so many other movies, Scarface, to me, Scarface stands out on some. level because it's uniqueness of that time. I feel like so many of the other films, like... I mean, that could just be the... That could just be the... What's the word I'm looking for? Well, does the wire count or is the...

I mean, the wire could count, yeah. It could count in that too. I mean, because you talk about Scarface, but I think about like, okay, like, something like the Tegan Appellon 1, 2, 3, like, it is about these guys who are trying to rob a train, but it's really more about

you know, Jerry Stiller and Walter Mathau and these people who are trying to who have been terrorized by this person. Let's be real. New Jack City. We were all kind of rooting for Nino Brown. Sure. Sometimes they write the villain more interesting.

But I think that... To a point till Christopher Williams' hands got fucked up. Pretty motherfucker. Never liked you anyway. But I also think there's something different when it comes to movies and television that were created with black leads because there's also the part of it where it's like

if you go back and you think about like the Cosby show what made the Cosby show so unique for its time was like okay here is a middle class black family where they humanized black people yeah but it was like it went the other way where it was like, they can be doctors and they can be lawyers. As traditional black people. Because everything else had been,

oh no, you're crooks, your criminals, like, you know, you, like, and so I think there's something that for so many movies, for black people,

and I think even thinking about like bad boy or something like that, so much of black culture had been placed as you all are the villains in white society. You agree with me, right, Steve?

Yeah, you are. You aren't the fucking guns. White society. I love the way you whispered it. And that's Sugar Steve, you can reach him at... Sugar Steve at Earth Lake. God now.

Earthland. Wow. Assaulted him. Wow. There's fighting words, Sugar, Steve. All right, Steve, what did you watch, man? I'm sorry, do you...

Am I done? Breaking bad? Is my dissertation? Yeah, yeah. Breaking bad. Breaking bad and what else? I mean, And so, yeah, that was with that idea of, like, I think the last decade has been the decade of celebrating white villainy.

But what did you laugh at this year? But what did I enjoy? Yeah, what did you enjoy? There are definitely things I enjoyed. I said Atlanta. I enjoyed Atlanta. I mean, I still enjoy Atlanta because they'll be making new episodes. Yes.

Godfiela Keith, yes. I enjoy insecure. I've been enjoying Watchmen. Yes. Talk about it. I haven't gotten that we talked. Listen, y'all. It is so.

And who knew that they were going to start off? I'm sorry, I didn't read the book series. But when they started it off so black with Black Wall Street. No, but there's nothing in the book. There's nothing in the book that is that. And honestly, I never gave a shit about the book. Right. Because I didn't feel like I, like, it was just like.

No connection. I didn't have any connection to it. And this. And it just felt like, oh, okay. Like, I've heard tons of dudes. tell me like Watchman is the best thing and it was just like

it's fine like I get it it's flawed Superman and flawed Batman It's the beginnings It's the foundation All right so if I'm gonna watch that Do I need to watch the movie first?

No no I will say this though why I keep absolutely funky You do need a sort of a guy Like you should Google Who the characters are So you can understand Just read a Wikipedia

On Watchman Like honestly if anyone was like Hey should I read the graphic novel I would just say read the Wikipedia. Like that's just, that's honestly my review of the... They're fucking employing Louis Gossett Jr.

Like, and he's fucking dope. Lou Gossett Jr. is still working? Yes. That's what's up. Yeah. That's what's up. Again, anything that Regina King touched in this decade is gold.

But also, you talked about the leftovers, Damon Lindeloff who... Anything that he was also in the... Did she want anything for American Crime? Yeah, she did. She won a Emmy. That's what I thought.

Yeah. She's our Merrill Street. Lindo Hoff, is he? Brenda from 227. Damon Lindo Lof did the leftovers. He also did Lost. Yeah. Oh, okay.

I'm glad I could commit to one. Yeah, I skipped Lost. I just started, I was going to skip the Watchman. Don't. No, no. And then when I saw the Tulsa story. And that, I was like, oh. And then.

That's how I got. your parents are getting in on it. And then when they send me a note about... It's like taking them to the Black People Museum. Yes, that's Blacksonian. I'm sorry. Wait, this might count as my... This shouldn't count as my humble brag, but I got note that episode three was inspired

from my discovery of my ancestry. You didn't see that, did you? I saw episode three, but I'm trying to... Oh, wow. So, yeah, the director emailed me and basically said that I wrote this episode kind of inspired by your, if you look up Questlove and Watchman, it basically, the director breaks down

that my episode discovery of my Benin ancestry. Yeah, because your folks was on the last ship. That would be season four, episode nine of finding your roots with Henry Lewis Gates Jr. Who is the secretary of state in this alternate universe where Robert Redford is the president. What? I don't know.

I wonder if that's why they, I wonder if that's why they made him the, put him in the episode. Right. Because they were like, you know what? He's a stronger actor than Amir. No. And in this tribute.

I mean, he did give Amir the information. Let's give Amir credit. He did great work because he did corpse in that Law and Order episode. Yeah. But FYI, just the cheater for everybody who hasn't watched, watch, watchmen, or are confused. You should know, I just read this, that it's based on

if America, damn, was it that we lost the Vietnam? No, we won Vietnam and it became a state. Right, yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, can I do another show that I like?

Yeah, sure. Hurry up, black villain. I'm running out of time over here. Oh, it looks like we're out of time. Sorry, you see you. I guess you'll have to tell us your favorite shows on the next episode of... What's up with that? Yeah.

It'll be in the... It'll be on the extras, which will have left the room, and you can record those. I mentioned this show. to Amir recently. And I really like this show. It's an animated show called Craig of the Creek. Yes. Introduce me to this show.

Yeah. Let me write that now. And it's on Cartoon Network. And it is... Adult Slim or a... No, it's regular Cartoon Network. But it's all about this little boy named Craig who hangs out in a creek.

with all, like, all the kids in the neighborhood all hang out in this creek. And they have their whole, like, their own, like, sort of laws of governance and their whole, in an economy. And it is. It's like, Lord of the Flies or? In, like, in like a nice way. And it is the most diverse cast of children I've ever seen. And like, Craig is a black kid?

Craig is a black kid. He said to Creek, man. Like, the whole thing. but there are all these like subtle like subtle jokes like there's it's a very funny gift you can find but there's a clip you can find of Craig and his dad are trying to have a barbecue and they Craig tries to help and some stuff catches on fire and so he and his dad are trying to put it out and it's going horribly wrong and there's a moment where uh Craig's older brother shows up with his girlfriend who's white and she walks in and she's like

hey I brought potato salad and the hose just splashes her and the potato salad and they're just like all these jokes that are like clearly like above children's heads but are so like perfect and wonderful and it's like when I watch animaniacs now as an adult yeah and you see the subtle all the adult humor that just went over my head But it's such a good show. Craig of the Creek. They did a Thanksgiving episode. How many seasons?

I think they've done... Two seasons, 60 episodes. That's what I was going to say. What's the difference between Adult Swim and just... Oh, Late Night. Yeah, Adult Swim starts after 10. Yeah. Oh, and that's where the risque jokes coming to...

I'm a addict. Shout out to Robart Chicken. It's everything. Eric Andre. Rick and Morty. This was the decade of Rick and Morty. Thank you, Wyatt, for saying... Steve? Thank you, I.

Are I free to go now? No. Oh, okay. Steve. Steve. Yes. Tell everybody what your favorite show is. Steve, I feel like it's a 90-day fiance type of person.

No. Steve Lowe's hit me. Seinfeld reruns. Oh, stop playing. No, last 10. Come on, man. Come on, man. You know the homework.

Do it. You know good and well the show you love. What show do you know about more than any show? Tokyo Tony's Finding Love AESIP? Shut the fuck. Tokyo Pauldies. China, Mama? I don't know.

Designated Survivor? I've never heard of that. Actually, I have heard of it. I don't know what it is. That's my guilt. Steve's trying to mess with me right now. My guilty pleasure, but I don't know. I'm not sure what you're trying to reference.

What the fuck is a show? Steve, you know every iota about watch what happens. What happens right? You've been there. You said in the audience. I remember that. Many times, yeah. Many times.

That's fascinating. I don't watch it, but. My girl does. That's what he's making. So you're a fan by default. Yeah, I mean, Andy's cool. You know a lot about it. We should have a joke about it.

Andy Cohen, that would be awesome. Going back to my Jesus and Mero. Jesus and Mero had Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper on at the same time, and it was probably one of the best fucking interviews. They do a tour. Yeah, they do a tour. All right, I'll tell you my, you know, all the white shows you missed. Yeah, that's fine.

We'll take it. But House cards. No, what you watched. Yeah, this is what I watched. You watched the Robin season by herself? That last season was pretty shitty. Like, I didn't, I haven't watched the last two seasons. I didn't watch it.

I couldn't get through it. I couldn't make it. I'm a complete. I'm just saying, gotta give that show props. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, the first few seasons were great. Orange and new black, obviously. Did you finish it?

Yeah. Rest and peace, pussy. So I'm just realizing they're all like Netflix shows. The Crown. Oh my God, Steve. Take a moment for the Crown. Because are you like it? Yes.

Who's in it? Who's in it? Well, Claire Foy was in the first. Come on. You know you have to talk about this, Steve. I'll talk when there's a break in the talk. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

Tell them who's in it. It's all good. You've got the floor, Steve. Okay. I'm going to continue. No, no. Tell me about the show. I've never heard of it.

I've heard of it, but I don't know about it. Oh, all right. Mind hunters. They're all Netflix shows. I'm trying to make a point. The crown is. It's about the life of Queen Elizabeth in the monarchy. Okay, number one.

And Claire Foy is the star of the- teenager, right? Right. And Claire Foy was initially the star in the first two seasons, and now they've changed, she's age. And my girl from, ah, what's the movie where she was the queen? In two years, now the queen is old? Yeah, they've aged her.

They didn't even let Claire Foy cook a little bit. It's fine. She got other shit to do. I think there was some issue. Like, there was some problem. And she, uh... Like she was 25 and then son... No, now she's playing out 57. She's 40.

I'm saying like a legal problem or some dispute between her and the, that's what I'm, I'm not sure exactly what happened. But the chick who won the Oscar for that movie where she was the queen and she was having an affair with the two women. Yeah. The eight, you know what I'm talking? I know. She plays Queen Elizabeth. Anne Helen Bonham Carter plays Queen Elizabeth.

Helena. Thank you. Plays Queen Elizabeth's Sister Princess Anne. It's really good. Sorry, it's like a soap opera. No, no. Can I add another show? Sure.

Sorry, Steve. Mm-hmm. The favorite. Yes, thank you. Fargo season two. Is that Carson Dunst? That was the, yeah, that was the one with Bocheme Woodbine, cursing Duns.

I didn't finish that season. Season one was excellent. Gene Smart's killing the, she killed the decade. Yeah. Shout out to Chris Rock who's doing it this year and. He's doing Fargo? He's doing Fargo. You, dog.

Like, he's in character. He has to be in character. and like when I'm seeing him, I just died. Like Chris Rock has to, his hair looks like it's like a kunk. Oh, yeah.

Like David Ruffin Temptations era. Oh. Yeah. Like, and I was like, what the hell? He's like, no, I'm not aging. And I have to do this for Fargo. So, all year, he's been rocking. Like, Chris Rock looks like. I can't wait to see him not play Chris Rock. He, yo, I didn't even recognize him. Wow. He, you know. Steve hates us. I'm sorry, Steve, good.

I don't hate anybody. Do you have more shows? Who's got more shows? Give us more TV. Well, I'm saving the best for last. Is it Fargo season two? No. Do you want to talk about Fargo season two?

I don't know what that is. I saw the movie Fargo. They made a TV show out of it. On USA, it's really good. There's a really great TV show out of it. I don't know you guys watch for all this stuff. Yeah. So.

I never saw the Americans, but people were like that. I didn't see that either. I heard it was great. Steve, do you want to talk about the Americans? I don't know. I don't know what that is. The Russians. It was on AMC.

No, it was. It was on FX. Oh, shit. All right. Anyway. Y'all forgot about Mad Men. I never watched it. Actually, I don't say never.

I loved Mad Men. They weren't. I don't want to say never watched it. I just couldn't fit. finished the first season. Okay. It's like I wanted to. I just couldn't get into it.

I love Matman. And Bill Maher wasn't in it, so you guys can watch it and enjoy it. I'm with you on Bill Maher, Steve. I get him. I mean, he's pretty spectacular figure from this decade. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Was that your list? Is that what?

The end? Yeah. Yeah. I watched a whole lot of television. So I'm just going to pick five. because I literally looked down the list and I was like, yo,

I watch a lot of television. I could get so much. I could go back to 21 jobs if I stop watching television. I need a staff. I'll say that, yo, my favorite regular network show

was the good wife. Skipped it. I don't know anything about it. I don't know anything about it. The good wife was awesome. You just love what... Julianne Mark Gilli is. I know, well, I loved, what's your name?

Christine Vrancke? No, well, her too. But I enjoyed the good wife because I loved Archie Punjabi's character in that show. And also, Josh Charles is our boy. Especially Julia, though. Yeah, well, I love the show. We did mention last week with John Oliver. We mentioned Masters of None.

Wait, hold on. Last week with John Oliver, it's just been too much. Like not him just has been too much going on that that having him, you know, just reiterate. Reiterate everything has just been kind of just a lot. But they also like delve into stories that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that should be news, but we're so preoccupied with the political cycle. I'm just at the point right now where I'm just fatigued with everything.

Right. And I just want everybody to shut up the fuck up and go away. Great contributions. Yeah. Dog, I miss my boy, aunt, parts of unknown was also a favorite of mine. Yeah. Vinnie Bourdains, parts of known. I love drunk history.

Yeah. Oh, hey, Derek. Oh, and you did drunk history. Did you do it? Yeah. Oh, can we move on from television? Wait. He didn't do this.

I didn't do it. I didn't get mine. I know I did too many. It's fine. Go ahead. I'm just saying that, all right, I'll just go down the list. I actually kind of like Marvelous. Mrs. Navel?

Didn't watch it. You couldn't fit everything. Even though it was short-lived, I loved Tremay, too. I didn't watch that. I didn't watch it. I missed all of that shit. Really? I didn't have HBO for most of the decade.

David Simon's Tremay? I know. It's one of them shows you're like, you're embarrassed if you're kind of artsy that you didn't watch it. Okay, so speaking of I'm embarrassed, there were like slight... I mean, I didn't watch most of the Sopranos. What?

I didn't have HBO. Oh, well, okay. Were those the Harlem years? No, those were. the bet style years those were the the bill is still trying to be in the record industry years so bill has absolutely no money you know you know what all right here's the deal i emotionally invested now it's weird that you think you're and i agree with you to a point that uh breaking bad probably did sum up the decade but when i was thinking of what really summed up the decade for us

my assessment was girls motherfucker how dare you I didn't say I liked girls. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But just see how you're reacting right now? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'm with your quest. Listen. You know I'm with the quest.

No, no, no, no. I'm not, but I'm saying that, I'm saying that also like police brutality was the thing in 2010. I'm thinking. Did that what happened on that show? I didn't want it. Dude, I'm telling you. Did you watch it, why? Did you watch girls?

Oh, you meant the show. I saw the first season. Yeah, I hate watching. the first season. Well, wait, here's the thing. Oh, my God. Who was the, which, which, uh, which website? Shout out to Tessa Thompson.

Would, which website would analyze each episode in the snarkiest, most delicious. It could be one of many. It was either A.V. A.V. Club probably. Yeah, that was one of the ones I probably read. Their snark was so awesome that I actually had to watch the show and read the snark. And they went episode by episode. Girls. Would never, no, no, no, you're missing the whole point.

I'm hearing you. I'm listening to try. I feel as though that show represented what happened in the last 10 years. Damn, was it really that shit even, think? Yes, but I would say, I agree with you. And then where I would, I see you and I would raise you is keeping up with the Kardashians as another, as basically like girls, with shittier writing. Yeah.

And more black people. You're right. More black people owned by white people. Oh, yes. Oh, damn. Oh, God damn, Lamar. Here's what I really got drawn in.

My favorite, the only part I genuinely liked about girls was the cold open because for me... We're going to have to talk about insecurity for like 20 minutes. When they go to there, again, I'm not saying this as an endorsement.

I'm saying this as an observation of what the city last 10 years we've been living. Okay. Which you're not listening to me. I could use walking dead for that analogy. No. Well, as a person who watched the show. Okay. That's what the Kardashians call all the black people on their show.

Walking Dead. When you said girls, I thought you meant actual girls. I didn't know there's a show called. No, Lena Dunham. No, I just felt that, you know, just... Chimitisma. With gentrification and sort of, I guess you would call it entitlement and slackament. Yeah, you're just, again, not listening to me.

I'm not listening to you. I'm listening to you. They're a white woman's world. I'm saying that, yes, that this show probably best describes what the last 10 years have been, at least from my observation. High maintenance. That was a good show. Yeah. I tried to get into that. I don't want to say it was bad. I just couldn't finish it.

High maintenance on HBO. The couch joined, too. What's the stand-up show? Oh, boy, that was moving to couch to couch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, crashing. Crashing, thank you. Yes. You know what? I'm really angry that they got rid of Detroiters, but I've never Billy laughed harder at a show than Detroit.

troiters and I really wish you introduced me to old boy too um to sam or to tim at tim at s&L back when he was all right is sam the guy from v yeah sam is oh my god he's a sleeper like he's really talented yeah he's funny him yeah tim tim tim's uh tim's great tim and i watch tyson chandler break his leg in front of us at a nix game no he's so far at uh and then the next day the back pages were pictures of Tyson Chandler like holding his leg on the court and all you see is me and Tim

just both like ooh looking at up none of us mentioned Handmaid's Tale either yeah I didn't watch it I did which you know

there's so much you know we can I ask a serious question you guys ever watch stuff besides shows like sports or C-SPAN I watch sports. MSNBC and CNN a lot.

I watch a lot of Jeopardy. I mean, I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of news. You mean just the sports? CNN and MSNBC and, you know, Rachel Madder. I'm watching all those Trump-related shows. I understand why people watch them or don't watch them at this point. But, like, that's why I've started to watch C-SPAN more. Just for the...

I can hold you? That holds you? It seems almost... It seems more normal than watching the news. Just because there's a straight feed. Yeah, and it's just, yeah, there's no commentary. It's more mellow and... Do you ever watch PBS News Hour?

No. Give that a shot. It's an hour. PBS? PBS News Hour. They still Channel 13? Yeah. I mean, I don't know your TV.

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Can we just, all right. I got an artist of a decade. I'm not even an artist of a decade. A album. Can we just do one album that you were a ride for, one album? Okay. One album. When I'm not a ride for, I got it.

Michelle and Degeotelo, Devil's Halo. Really? Yes. Okay. I love the one afterward more. Comfort. No, not comfort. Weather.

Yes. Yeah. But, yes, you're right. Devil's Halo was the one for me. Michelle, come on the show, please. Yeah. dog i beg her all the time why yeah

what was your what was the album I'm sorry it's just going to have to be anything Anderson Pack related outside of Oxnard but Osnard it's growing on me over Malibu? Malibu?

No I'm saying outside I said but Oxnard I said anything Anderson pack Just name the album Just say Malibu so we can move on All right But I like this What was the last one with Andre

Ventura? Ventura You just like what which one Fuck Pick one Ventura Fuck it. You know good and well you like Malibu.

I like it all. Next. I must go pink t-polo. I got a tie. I'm going to go to Pimp a butterfly. Yeah. And a seat at the table. If I had an honorable mention,

my dark horse honorable mention is 1999 by Joey Badass. Just because I thought it was like, an interesting see like an interesting album seeing somebody who is this current generation of a rapper embrace

a sound and a style that harkens back to hip hop of like my time and so it felt like it was a nice sort of bridge between between the two and also it was just very thoughtful I can appreciate what you Joey Badass is doing, but I much preferred him as a cast member of Mr. Robot.

He was in Mr. Robot? Yeah. Wow. Okay. Have you ever seen his rendition of When Dubs Cry? No. Yes. No, I haven't.

Didn't you send it to me? Oh, my God. I'm scared to see that. You sent it to me. Who is it to When Dubs Cry? No, Joey Badass. Yeah, I don't want to see that. He sings it or he rapes it.

Because I'll have a negative opinion. That's what you call it. He's like, he's sort of taking the song and reinterpreted it. Yeah. He didn't even do that. And it's very, like, it's very creative and interesting because he's got, like, a live band behind him. That doesn't make him special. I'm a tree.

Okay, build an ended. There's, like, a whole thing on, uh, there's this Australian radio, uh, thing where they do, it's called like a version. Oh, yeah, I'm familiar with that. And so, yeah, they have, like, an artist do one of their songs. And then they also do a cover of a song that they, that they like. I've listened to a lot of those and a lot of times I find them quite regrettable

and this sounds like one of them that would be quite regrettable. I feel like you'd probably hate it. It's called When Thugs Cry. Even worse. Still the same song. Steve, your favorite album of this decade? Nothing.

Not even your own? You put out albums this decade. Not even Elvis Costello's wake-up ghost. Or you put out your own? Or not even James Poyser's intro to why it's an ex-problem areas? Wow. Wow. Aw.

Oh, look at that. Shout out James. I got to say that this decade, I've listened to more comedy albums than I've had regular. Like, I'll listen to, I'll stream records and, you know, I'll get records for DJ gigs but won't listen to them. But as far as, like, from beginning to end, comedy albums were probably the album that I consumed the most this decade.

And I kind of have a tie. Our neighbors, How'd you know? Tignitaro's live where she does a bit where seven hours before she just got diagnosed with cancer.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it's probably one of the greatest recorded moments like to hear her in almost real time process being handed this death sentence. in front of an audience

and still trying to be funny like the whole, you know, what's the rule wide of what comedy is? Like, tragedy plus... Tragedy. Time equals... Yeah, plus time.

Yeah. It was comedy. Like... You just agree with it every day either. No, is it true? No, that's true. Yeah, time plus tragedy. Yeah, time plus tragedy equals comedy.

And so I felt it was that. However, um, probably, yeah, the album, that shout out to Mark Twain had me

jaw dropped like is this still allowed Jamar neighbor's America's nigga was I don't know it's

like we were listening to it like it was the the new tribe called Quest record like it was like two in the morning

me Neil Brennan Dave Chappelle sitting in the car listening to Jamar neighbors like jaw dropped and it's just a mix tape

but to me like and I feel like it's the last bit of comedy that got created before the Me Too movement like none of none of the contents and don't take my endorsement as you know

shitting on women or whatever or the movement or progress yeah everything that he says do you know Jamar neighbors at all Wyatt? I don't know it's kind of down he's friends with Jamar I know who he is. I know who Jamar is. I don't think we've ever actually met face-to-face,

but I know Gerard and we know a lot of people in common, but I don't think he and I have ever connected. I just literally thought that everything that was taboo and couldn't be said on record was done with and over with, and we were just like beyond it all. Like everything was normalized, but yeah, like he found a way to fuck us up even more. So, yeah. Shout out to. Putting that on my list. Thank you. Germar neighbors.

Yeah, it's a mixtape. You can find it on SoundCloud. Because I love you so much, Laia, just give another album. Really? Okay. I put, don't judge me, but I put Jay. Oh, you know what?

I put 4-44. Really? Jay-Z? I did, and you know I don't do that. I don't ride for him. But I did love 4-4-4. It was the black as I ever heard him. I kind of loved it.

I don't, all right. I might go to hell for this. Uh-oh. We still want Jay on the show, So don't burn any bridges. I did enough of that way. I don't know if I believe lemonade or 444. I did have lemonade on you.

I don't believe them. Oh, you think the lemonade was a dramatic production? I mean, it could be. I ain't sleeping on it. Well, I think that they know that we like to be on our own heads and sort of assume what we think it's about. I just, I can't fathom a world in which these are the two most. watched people ever.

Like, how's he going to find... But it doesn't even matter anymore to me if Lemonade is real. It doesn't matter. Even if it was a dramatic production, it was worthy. Can I ask you something? Has anyone heard... Because, you know, both Beyonce albums

are in everyone's decade in the... And, you know, the first album... Although none of those have mentioned them. Yeah. I feel like... I was going to. I feel like the first album probably did more for the business

we're now more than radio heads album which they allowed you to determine how much you want to pay for it. You know, the idea of like releasing the album. She just threw it out. She just threw it out. Like that started. So that's more of revolutionary.

She stole that from Prince. As Prince ever successful? The Black album was supposed to be done that way. Oh, damn. It wasn't even supposed to have his name attached to. It was supposed to be released as something by somebody. Oh, damn. I never knew that.

But have you heard any of those albums without its video counterparts? Yes. I have. I've never seen the videos. I've never seen the videos. I've only heard the songs. Oh, to be y'all saying join is banging, yeah.

I've only consumed those records as videos and not on their own. Blow and the railo skating, yeah, like, she's got to. Like, Blow was the only song that really kind of resonated with me from just only hearing the songs and not seeing the videos. The rest of them was just kind of. I got to say, that song creeped me out a little bit. I mean, it is kind of creepy. Because, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But. I don't know. Mostly it just, it just, it's, you reminds me like some kind of shit, you know, might have roller skated to back in 1980. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So, who was your person of the decade? Your artist of the decade? Oh, damn. We supposed to do that? That was on it. Well, you said you, I had my hours in the decade. Well, it was Anderson.

I feel like Anderson is a definitive. Of the decade? Of the decade? For, because, like, he didn't really, more than Kanye, more than, More than, he didn't. Yeah. For me, Anderson, Anderson become one to my race.

my radar until like 24th, in the 2014. Right, but I'm saying like those people that you named, they're also of the previous decade. So if I was going to say anybody else, it would be Kendrit Lamar, right? But I just knew everybody else was going to say Kendrick Lamar. So I just went with Anderson because I think he's going to be time on us. I think he's going to be one of those artists that will last. He will last.

He will be a legend in his own right. I hope so. I think so. And I'll wake up on this show. But also, just because you had mentioned, like, Kanye, there's a part of it that I will. wonder, like, the music he's put out in the last decade, is that the music that we're really going to remember him for?

No. No. I hope not. For his sake. No. Actually, you know what? I think you're right. I think you're right.

That's what I remember. Remember him. I think you're right. My preference, no, it's, you got to separate your preference for what facts are. Like, you get mad at me for choosing girls. Isn't saying that I chose girls, but it's like a fact. And I feel as though Twisted Dark Fantasy

was the Mason-Dixon line that separated through the wire, soulful sample Kanye, old Kanye. From overblown, talking out of my ass Kanye all the time. But if that's the case, and not to do a plug on you,

but like then why do songs that shook on Jesus walks? Like Jesus walks will stand the test of time. Will it not? That was 2004. That was pre-Dark Twisted Fantasy. But that's right. But that's, like that's kind of the question I'm asking is what will define Kanye in a way what will define him but also

like I think Pablo defines Kanye really that's I you know what it's I'm saying like 30 years from now like like when you think about musicians like you think about somebody like Marvin Gay and it's like okay nobody thinks about the albums of the 80s like they just think about like the early 60 Motown, Tammy Terrell stuff, what's going on. Like it kind of stops at a certain point. And those were the most successful albums for him. I don't know as far as like numbers sold where the 2010. The difference between Marvin and Kanye is the prevalence of celebrity and society.

And cocaine. And well, I'm pretty sure there was pretty about. about the same amount of cocaine on both sides. That's just my belief. Cocaine for Marvin and whatever pills Kanye said he was addicted to. I'm sure Kanye was sniffing because a lot of that shit sounds like cocaine music. Like dark twisted fantasy sounds like a cocaine album. Do not reflect the opinion.

But anyway, I digress. Yeah, I think it's just the level of celebrity that's like, you know, if Marvin had been as much in the press as Kanye in the 80s, it might have been the same story, you know. Social media. Okay, if you're asking, like, when you look at a person's, what's the word, the canon? Yeah. Like, we see like, okay, well, we will take Stevie from music of my mind up until maybe hotter than July.

Like, that's our canon for him or whatever. Right, right, right. Damn me, give me skeletons. I feel, no, no, I mean, Stevie had jams afterwards. So, for me, I would say that Kanye's canon will probably, be from college dropout. To Twisted fantasy. Twisted fantasy, however,

okay, maybe, all right, think of Sly. Jesus. Sly had from a whole new thing to like, to, I mean, a whole new thing to, there's a ride going on, but then we'll take

there's a ride going on, fresh and small talk. And then anything after that's just bullshit. So I think that the train stopped riding for him after yay. The, uh,

I really think it was after Twisted Fantasy. You don't think Pablo is this small talk? Yeez has happened. And I know you like Yeezes, but you know. I don't like it, but it's been critically claimed and millennials swear by it. Do they really swear that by that shit? Oh, Millennials has been an interesting decade with you people.

No, like, all right. So has anyone seen or heard of Waves, the movie? No. Y'all need, Sterling K. Brown. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You must see Waves. What is this? The preview so undersells it that it's necessary because I feel like that's the movie that, what's the, oh, God, I don't want to slander a film.

But I feel like Waves is the film that will floor you in the way that Queen and Slim. Oh, Slam. You must see waves. I feel like that will be this year's moonlight. Is it an indie joint? Yeah, a black indie joint. You must see it. A blendy joint.

But they use I Am a God in such a way. I am a God. That's a song on Jesus. Remember, you didn't listen to it more than once. You're right. Because neither did I. No. After I saw the Kardashians dancing a new slave, I was done.

Like, that shit just did not beg for more than one listen. Because it was just so abrasive and... and not enjoyable. I saw Yeezus the way that I saw Old Dirty Bastards' Nigger Please album. As a crime for help? Yes, yes.

Or something you listen to and then you enjoy and then you feel bad for listening to because you realize that the person behind it needs some fucking help. Yes. But nobody around them wants to give them any fucking help because they're all getting paid. Yes.

Yes, that's exactly right. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. So, and that's why I say Pablo is really that record. like Jesus What I will say about Pablo Like I What I found

It was the true cry for help record What I found What I found interesting about Pablo Was not the music Was the fact that he was willing to To edit it in real time Like as after it goes on right Like I thought that was interesting

I thought that was an interesting approach Like I don't know if it was intentional But I thought that was definitely an interesting way To approach You know releasing an album as something that was, you know, once it's out in the market, it's not necessarily finished. You can still keep working on it.

I thought that was interesting. It was. I can't either because I can't fucking stand Kanye. How are University going to talk about and we ain't going to get caught like the rest of them slated? Oh, I can't fucking stay Kanye either. I wish we were talking about something else too. But everybody likes talking about kindness.

This was your fault. Did you start it? This is my fault. This is the one who passed me the question. Oh, my God. His family dressed in white, walking down. But you can't, let me finish. You can't talk about this decade without talking about condo.

You can't. They can't. Again, this is not about your preferences. This is about what happened. It wouldn't be thorough. I have a theory. I have a theory about, that I shared before,

which is basically, I think he had a plan to troll us and everything. You know, he put the Instagram out with his hat on. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. And he thought he was going to be slick with it. He didn't, he didn't figure.

in that he was going to get schooled on TMZ live. He definitely, Van what's his name? We with you in the struggled, son. So yeah, Van school. He got fired as you know. He did? Yeah.

For what? Because he got into it with the white boy at TMZ. You ain't heard about that, John. I don't watch TMZ like that. So, yeah, Van School and Kanye like that. Kanye was totally unprepared for that shit. And Kanye also wasn't prepared

for, Donald Glover to host SNL that Saturday and release This Is America on Sunday which basically just turned all that pooh-a-scoop conversation. It just washed it out and then suddenly

This Is America became the conversation of... It all sounded the same to me. It all sounded like poohy-scoop to me. It was. Remember when we discovered that like Donald Glover don't be saying shit in his music? I'm sorry, but this was like the decade when we realized.

I did. I'm sorry. I heard my feeling. Do we not remember this? Like, this is America? What the fuck is he saying? It's the video. Like, remember?

And then it was the other song. That was some of the most emperous, new clothes. Oh, I'm so embarrassed. He really got us, y'all. He got Chia. I love Atlanta. Atlanta is great, but Childus Gambino is so bullshit. I love Kauai.

That was my shit. So movies, ladies and gentlemen. Did you see any movies, Leah? Yeah, and I saw all of them. And I just did, come on, just get out Black Panther. Brides made. I still haven't seen Black Panther yet. There you go.

You have not seen? I haven't seen Black Panther yet. But remember, it also took me like 10 years to see The Wire, so. Yeah. I see it. But what movie resonated with you? I did them. Black Panthers, Bridesmaids.

Get out Black Panther, Bryce Maids, Moonlight. There you go. Okay. I wanted to keep it. Keep it short and succinct. Yeah. Sugar Steve. I'm sorry.

I don't know what that snort is. That porn hub movie you watched last night does not count. They do, though. From the whole decade. Wow. I mean, I got a list. I can go while you think about it. Yeah, why don't you keep going?

My list. The movies I enjoyed from the last 10 years include titles like Bridesmaid, as Laie mentioned, Attack the Block, I thought was really good. What was that? John Boyega was in it.

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, it was really good. It was a UK film. This is the end, I thought, was really fucking excellent. A movie that I had forgotten about until it actually came out. Boyhood.

Yes. That was dope. I love boyhood. Yeah, the concept was dope. Do you remember that, Steve? Come on, this is dope. Yes, I remember that. Good concept.

Two movies that somebody I saw on the internet recently said that were really good, but they never really feel the need to watch again. Birdman and Whiplash. Birdman was good. Really? Yeah, yeah. I enjoyed both films, but I really don't feel the need to watch them again.

Like, I really didn't. enjoyed them. Like, I thought they were excellent fucking films, but I don't think I'll ever watch either one of them again. The comeback of Michael Keaton was really cool. Yeah, I'm always a big Michael Keaton. I'm a big Michael Keaton. Like, he's still my Batman as far as I'm concerned. Mr. Maugh. Oh, shit. Mr. Mom. I'm just going to keep going. John Wick. Which one? The first one. I still haven't seen the other ones. Which one was common in? He was in the second one. I've only seen the first one. Okay. Okay. So John Wick is good? Yeah, John Wick was the first one was rude. I haven't. I haven't. I haven't. I saw the third one. I've only, I

watched the other ones yet, so I really can't, you know, so whether they're eating good or not. Top five, I thought, was fucking excellent Chris Rock's movie. Yes. Oh, yeah. Selma. Salma was great. I thought that was good. Get out, of course. And ex machina.

I used to call it sex machine. Matter of fact. What's ex-Machana? Matter of fact, whenever they were, like, four cast members came on to promote it, We would just do...

Sex machine. Sex machine. Like an ex-marketna. That's a real title, though? Yes, it's a real marketer. Look at it. It's a really good movie. I think it came out like 2011.

It's about a lady robot. Yeah. And guys who want to control a lady robot. Came out in 2014. I'm jumping in line. Turning me on. I'm jumping in line. I enjoyed...

I enjoyed Gone Girl. Yeah. And I will also say that Tyler Perry did a great job. I like Tyler Perry as an actor. Yeah. You know, I felt that. He wasn't great as Alice Cross, but fuck it.

No, I'm just saying that as an, I want to see more of Tyler Perry being directed by other people. By other people. Yes. I hope I don't go to hell for that. You know what? For all the talk of the Irishman,

I haven't watched it yet. I went, I, oh, you, you got to see it in the movie theater. Like, you owe it to yourself to see the swan, I see it as a swan song, so it's almost like putting thriller on your. Swans song for who? Yeah, for Joe Pesci. I feel like it's, it's going to be the swan, first of all, De Niro don't want to act no more. For real? No.

He's, yeah, he's speaking of like, I'm retiring and all this stuff. Oh, damn. But this is, I mean, this is really the last time you're going to get those, a mob film from Pesci, De Niro. Right, right, right, right, I got you. So, I can't even include that. So that said, I feel bad. I really liked Wolf of Wall Street. Oh, it was good.

I enjoyed it. Yeah. Yeah. Have you all heard of the lobster? Yeah. I saw it, but I don't remember. I saw it when I was on the plane and I loved the lobster. Who's in that?

Colin Farrell. Oh. The three people that still listened to. Yeah. And speaking of Pornhub. Highlight. Shout out to you ladies. Google it.

Corn Hub, Colin Farrell. That's so 2000. It doesn't matter. It never gets old. Stop it. Don't still more joy. Don't do that. Anyway.

You know what? You know what? Really shocked the shit out of me that I had to see it twice. What's that? Good time. I don't know that one. All right.

So Good Time is a film that starred. Okay. Is it Jonah Hill's movie? No, no, no. Jonah Hill was supposed to do the follow-up that Adam Sandler is in now. Good Time is with Robert Pattinson. Oh, right.

Yes. It's the safety part. brothers right so their their their their style of filmmaking is so fucking

awesome that literally I did not know I was watching Robert Patterson the same way that you know I'm certain that people will probably be shocked if Adam Sandler gets best actor

talk for this new film that he's in about the jewelry. Yeah, playing a villain. Oh, good for him. A suburban villain. Yeah. Oh, wait.

Shout out. Shout out. Wait, as a comedian, how did you feel about 100%? His stand-up special? Yes. You're indifferent to it? Sandler's special. What?

Yeah, like, it was, I felt like... It was him acting like Adam Sandler? Yeah, like it felt like a kind of like some of the... greatest hits type of a thing. It didn't... You know what? I don't know. It didn't...

I, like... I missed the Adam Sandler train of the beginning, like the early 90s stuff. We were living in Europe and then, so I saw... You weren't listening. They're all going to laugh at you every day. All that stuff. I knew none of that stuff. I knew sweatshirt.

Sweat shirt. Dip, dip, dip. Yeah. Yeah. I knew that, but I didn't know anything. And the only Adam Sandin I like was the serious stuff, like, Spanglish. and punch drunk love Yeah

You ain't even got the 50 first dates yet Brennan Well Brennan hit me up and says I guarantee you're going to watch this 10 times And I was like I'm not even the ad of Stanley Fran Get the fuck it out of here

So I like went to sleep And then like we woke up at 4 in the morning Like let me see what he's talking about And actually watched it I'd I was floored at how brilliant Yeah I was surprised too It's so brilliant

it's so brilliant, yo. Seriously. I actually found myself, you know, my eyes were getting in the water. And tearing up. Oh, by the end, I was tearing up. It's funny and it's sad also. And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention OJ's Made in America documentary. Ezra Edelman, director of OJ Made in America.

Is that the not 30 for 30? That's a day. Yes, that's the 30 for 30. Five part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also, I loved Inside Out from Pixar. Which I recommend. Yes.

Okay. As, yeah, as a guide in that world now, you know, I highly recommend inside out. Disney Plus. Yes, it is. There's so many shows and movies, aren't there? Think about it. There is. We haven't even talked about music yet.

No, wait. We did. Briefly. Briefly. No, we did. We did. We did. So any last words, Lai, before we sign off?

Just get it off all you. Anything that you want to? No, man. I just want y'all to rock with us in the 2020. Oh, what was your humble break of this decade? No, what was your tragedy of this decade? What was the most tragic thing of this decade to you? Oh, I wrote down.

But quickly because we're wrapping up. I'll do that quickly because we're wrapping up because my grandma died, so that was really sad or whatever. All right, keep it moving, keep it moving, keep it moving. And I just wanted to also say the death of black, unarmed black man to police violence. That was pretty sad. You just get one.

You get one. Moving along. That didn't make my list. Okay. Now, what's your humble brag? Chanty's got a man. In the last 10 years, a bitch tried out some stand-up. And then she actually was a talent booker for, you know,

a show executive produced by Questlevin, Tariotter. So that was pretty cool. That's my humble brag. Cool. Yeah. All right. You still sticking with comedy? Can I just be funny?

Do I have to fucking do it? Yeah, man. I peat on myself every time I go on stage a little bit. You got it. You got it. You got to feel it to heal it. You got to fail some more. Take it from a comedian.

Not me speaking, but the one that's desperate to get out of here right now. What? Why? I was promised three hours. Why? What was your... Even once we wrap it up, I'm sticking around. Okay.

Me and James were going to order a pizza. James is... All right, what was your tragedy of a decade? Well, hold on. I never even got to do a movie. Oh, what's your movie? Let's run it back. Let's go to chapter 17 of this episode.

The movie I was going to say, in keeping with what define this decade, and I'm not saying this as a movie that I think was like a great movie for the decade. It's just what defines a decade was Suicide Squad. And the reason I say that is because I feel like in another 20 to 30 years, I feel like we will look at this decade and what it did for superhero movies in a way that we look at how Westerns had like their heyday

and eventually the Western's bubble kind of like burst. And then we all look at them like, ugh, not another fucking Western. Yeah, and I feel like Suicide Squad was that movie where we kind of gleam the cube on superhero movies. and it was like, and not just that we did that, but it now shifted to like, okay, now let's focus on villains. Right, right, right, right. And now we have the Joker.

The Joker. Like, Joker, which is, you know, going to be the- You're really smart. You're fucking awesome. You do not like villains. Well, I just feel like it's a weird thing. Like, Joker to me just feels like porn for incels. I haven't even seen it.

And so it's just, you saw it though, why it feels like these, like it feels like it. feels like there's a part of this that it's like these movies are just like for all the kind of for all the people on four chain for all yeah for all those disaffected bros like this is all just like the things that they jerk off to before they go and be shitty in the world and so that's so i so i kind of see all of these and it feels like oh suicide squad was like okay yeah well we can make a superhero movie about anything, and then it kind of went this way of like, okay, yeah, now let's make Joker.

Why not? Sure. Yeah, I think old girl's probably going to get a movie, too. Joker's Girl. Harley Quinn? I think they're making a movie, yeah. Or no, they already, yeah, I think they've already actually,

there's posters out for it. But, yeah, like, in theory, these are the monsters of these comic books. Like, they're murderers. And it's like, but let's hear, let's hear them out. Like, that is, it is very much the Trump's like, there's good people on both sides. I mean, we have, you know, the entire horror genre,

which is basically built off of villains. Sure. Yeah, but we don't love them, though. Like, suicide squad was like, oh, it is another side. Okay, well, maybe. So maybe we just need to, you know, take a good look at, you know, the way we're, our thought process and how we're looking at these things.

This is why you ask him everything. Yeah Steve Yeah Did you watch movie Steve No I'm gonna go to tragedies for a hundred Yeah The school shootings

The mass shootings Is the tragedies The biggest tragedy for me This decade This year and all that Wyatt we didn't really get yours Sorry because you did the movie thing Yeah I did the movie thing

I don't really have a humble brag. Yeah. Sorry. That's really, really, really humble not to have one at all. That's true. So I guess that's my humble brag. Damn. Next level.

Yeah. Go ahead. Give us your humble brags. Is he capable? I will say that my tragedy was no doubt. I consider Prince Stein more fucked up than Trump being president. Wow. Really?

Wow. I actually think Trump. Who did you vote for? I think. I think. Jill Stein. I think Trump being president was probably more important than Obama being president. Interesting.

And I know why. Because we needed to, I feel like with Obama being president. We got comfortable. Well, it was just a thing of we just swept shit under the, we just swept shit under the rug like shit was on. We swept shit under the rug before. But now with Trump, it's almost undeniable. Yeah, I ain't mad at a shit for that. You can deny anything if you try hard enough.

Does that do so? No, it's diamond and silk. Nice one. Nice one. Nice one. Nice one. And diamonds and silk. Bong, bong, bong.

So, yeah, I, you know, I just think that was. hella. Oh, okay. Tragic. Humble brag is hopefully we'll still be here next week. I hope so, because we've got a good show lined up. That's right. Oh, we're not supposed to.

All right. Yeah, you don't have, you don't have me. The replacement guest. The last minute replacement guest. That's the secret that nobody knew until now. Everybody can, everybody can agree that you've been on our list since this fucking show started. Yeah. Sure.

It's just that Amir text me two hours before and it's like, Hey, common dropped out. You've got a facial hair too. Show up. Wyatt. Look. We will properly have you on the show so we can analyze your life. Okay.

Where are you from? Because it's going to be. I mean, that's, ooh, it's a mystery now. Now you've got to, there's incentive. All right. So what are we? What do we hope for in this next decade? A Ruth's album.

Yo, no more drinking. Why are you pointing at me? That's for real. I wasn't really... You're the boss. Some people do hope for a Root. Well, for me, my hope for the future? Mo money, Mo money, Mo money, Mo money, and Mo money.

Steve. Man, that's a tough question. Wyatt. Steve and I finally buy that boat. It's a speed boat. Liya? In the words of my brother Fonte, I would love to just be able to be in my own orbit. Yeah, because you're definitely in some other fucking orbit right now.

I'm in a lot of people's orbits, a lot of things orbits. There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. The last two hours and 35 minutes is pretty much how the decade's been. Oh, it's not even going to be two hours and 35 minutes because there's a whole bunch of that shit that's got to get cut out. All right, well, I want to be out of. You didn't answer. You didn't answer. What?

What you look forward to in the next? next decade. Dude, this is the happiest I've ever been in my fucking life. Oh, my God. That's so exciting. You guys. He's dating his sister. That's so great.

No, that's not even about that. I'm just dating the most incredible woman ever and we're going to change the world. God damn. God damn right. He's smoking weed, too. And do her mushrooms. Shit. I will say that, yeah, it's been fun.

And I hope you guys have a great new year. a great new decade in 2020. And as we all face our 50s. Who are you talking to? I don't know what. Oh, just me and Steve are in this boat. Yeah. I have just entered my 40s.

Yeah. Will there be a number five on the left digit of both of your ages at all in this upcoming decade? At the very end. Whatever. At the very end. Oh, at the end of the decade. Yeah.

Oh, okay. So you go. 20, 2029. Yeah, everybody's going to have a five at some point in a 10-year span. Okay. Yeah. So I'm the only one facing 50 in the next year.

Okay. You said at the end, though. Y'all got that. That's all right. You also face it 50 billion. It's dope. Yeah, that's right. There you go.

All right, one behalf of Miss Laia and Sugar Steve and Boss Bill. And I'm, where the fuck is on me, Bill? He's working. You got like two plays in Sesame Street, son. Damn. and maybe Fonte will come back from cigarettes at one these days. No, he's not coming back. He's never coming back, isn't.

All right. Well, Wyatt, we thank you very much for filling in for Salinj and for Nalry and for Nalryl. And Fonte. Yeah. Little Brother album. That was a great thing that happened in a decade. Thank you. Thank you, Questlove, for making that happen.

I'm losing a teammate. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Be careful what you ask for. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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