The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: RZA Part 2

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

In Part 2 of Questlove's one-on-one with RZA, The Abbott speaks about his latest release, the Classical album inspired by adolescent lyrics, A Ballet Through Mud. Quest' also fans out with RZA, with both artists highlighting some favorite songs from the Wu-Tang Clan crew catalog, discussing some under-sung affiliates, and addressing why Bobby Digital is focused on evolution, not chasing his rich legacy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To our second part Of our conversation With the prolific Masterful Riza A.K.A. Prince Vakim, the Abbott, Bobby Digital, Bobby Stills, The Scientist, Prince Delight, Prince Dynamite.

Williz Zig Zig Zig-Zagalah. What's up, brother? How are you doing? Thanks for inviting me back. I have to tell you that You know, when they initially told me that you were coming out to do the ballot through mud project. Just based on the title alone,

I didn't know what to expect. And for those that don't know, it's out now. I mean, this is as straight ahead as classical music as I've heard it. I knew it was classical music, but I thought it would be risified, but you kind of went straight ahead with it. Can you give me the basic genesis of how this project came to be? Yeah, I mean, it started,

from finding one of my old lyrical notebooks during the pandemic, like a notebook that had my lyrics from the age of 14 and 19. And in that book, it's like all type of stories and ideas of being young, or first time smoking, drinking, sex, et cetera. And certain lyrics in there, you know, back in those days, was writing three-page lyrics.

So certain lyrics had these long stories and these ideas. And I was like, I should record these lyrics. and write music to it. You know, I'm busy doing my TV show. I'm doing posing that. So my brain is in composer mode. And I said, I want to actually try to write an opera or something with these lyrics. And as I started doing it, first of all, somebody corrected me.

It was a guy named Evan Lamberg. He was like, operas are usually an Italian wizard. So I don't think you're going to be able to do that. So, okay, cool. He said, you know, ballet or sweets or like the Nutcracker or Peter in the World. that type of thing. And so I said, okay, let me take that approach. And then I did.

But when I started writing the music or playing the music and composing it, it all started to not need lyrics. It started to not be something that would just be a continuation of what I'm known for without the show an evolution of my creative mind. And yet still to me have the story in the spirit of what I was trying to.

say in the music. You know what I mean? You said something that you're a scientist, your historian, all that, but I'm going to correct you on one thing. You said it wasn't engrissified, but if you actually take a listen, right, and you hear the cicadleness of triumph,

bun, bun, bun, bun, bun, bun, bun, bun, a lotus arriving. You were here, like, the Bobby Digital, like on a song, the type of track of ballet, do much. The flute is asking, where he comes, where he comes, Bobby is it all.

So it's like the cadence of how I would rhyme or the cadence of the vibe that I bring like emceeing shows up in some of the melody lines. And then the keys of which a lot of my tracks come out in, right? You know, or the sample heroes like, you know, Maricone, I'm a hero.

You know, it's one of my heroes. Quincy Jones, of course. Best in peace. Isaac Hayes. Like a lot of my heroes and how they would do something, even though they did it with soul and the rhythm, right, music, right? I removed all the rhythm, all the percussion, all the lyricism,

and then left that as the ballet. Well, when I meant Rizified, like for me, your relationship with dissonant chords sort of clashing, I mean, it's something like knowledge God, which to me, it's the type of composition that, I guess the term is with synesthesia, like where you can see, like, you can visualize. You can see the notes. You paint such these pictures with dissonance minimalism that that's what I thought.

We're based on the title, the ballet through mud. But this isn't the first time that you've done kind of full circle, fully realized thing. Like, if anything, I mean, you're in full Renaissance mode, like, be it. you know, directing your movies, your various projects that you've done with other artists and whatnot. If anything, I think you're probably the most prolific figure that we have as far as someone actively putting creative prints in almost in every creative medium. For you, though, what was the story that you wanted to convey with Bellian? Well, one of the lyrics that it started with, right, is called Joe is a nerd.

And in that lyric, I can do a few bars of the lyric, right? I don't think I did it last time I was here. You didn't. Oh, okay. So, Joe was the nerve. I started part in the cadence and part in the lack of MC level. You're the risen, man. You have to apologize.

It starts off like Sue was this girl who was really quite fly. Brad was real cool when he was her guy. Lisa was freaky. She loved to have sex. Her brother name was Dexter, but they called him Dex. His sister name was Monica, and she was a verge. Joe was just their friend, and he was a nerd. Brad bought the beer, Sue bought the smoke.

Lisa had sheets. Dexter had Coke, but Joe was the type who didn't get high, nor did it, Monica, but she was willing to try. So Brad did a joint and passed it to Joe said, Come on, man, smoking. And Joe said, no. What's wrong, are you scared? Was asked by Sue?

Oh, you're just a nerd. Joe said, that's not true. Monica said, come on, just have a taste as she popped on the joint through the smoke in his face. Now, on Monica, Joe had a crust. He didn't want to smoke the weed but felt that he must. And like many of you, we know, love made him a fool. So he pulled on the joint to prove he was cool. And Lisa was like, yo, forget about Joe. They said, yo, Dex, where the heck is the blow? He pulled out two grams and said it's all that I bought. Well, it's more than enough.

And they proceeded to snort. Now, at this time, Joe had finished three beers. And Brad was like, here, have another, you queer. And Joe was like, no, while holding his stomach and while They said, Monica, he suddenly vomit. She screamed, oh, my God, shit, how absurd. And everyone laughed and said, Joe is a nerd. Joe is a nerd. Joe was a nerd. Joe felt embarrassed, so he did the bird.

They chased them. He ran inside a whole shack. And there was this sound of crashing glass. It was dark inside, so Brad had to get a light. And they checked to see if Joe was all right. But when they found them, he had quartz of red blood spreading from his head. And Monica said, oh, my God, Joey is dead. and they all started to run and never mentioned this incident again to anyone.

So, anyway, I'm amazed at anyone that's able to sort of retain that amount of text in their heads. When did you write this? What year? I probably was 16. So, yeah. Wow, man. Okay, so you actually quoted a good friend of mine, Jazzy Jeff, when Jeff once famously said a quote to, like, leave nothing behind.

A lot of our hip-hop generation, we know that like a figure like Tupac leaves Earth, but has, you know, so much product left over. Figure like Prince has over 5,000 songs in his arsenal. but for you, you said that you subscribe to the theory that, you know, get it all out, leave nothing behind. Like, just on a daily for now, assuming that you're not in the fight or flight hustle mentality that you were back in 92, 93, when you were putting the clan together, you know, trying to shoot your shot.

How is just your daily creative, muscles flowing at this stage? It's like creativity is the energy, right? It's the flow. It's almost like we're breathing in a way, right, in the sense of it's just in you, right? Even how we talk, it's just, it's a creative cadence or flow to that.

So for me, you know, to say that, how do I take that energy and put it into a structure let's just say, right? Yeah, daily, you know, I make, I'm either making music or writing down, you know, ideas or a film or writing lyrics or making beats. It's like, I never stop creating. It's like I can't stop creating, to be quite frank with you. Like, you know, like, not to get too personal here, but, you know, my wife, she made a joke.

So the guy from Supreme, he rebuilt it one day. on Instagram. He was talking and he kind of quoted me on something. But he came to my crib and, you know, you know, I was showing, I don't know why I ended up showing in my crib, but I don't know what was, what got us in every room, but we ended up, you know, in the bedroom, because in my bedroom, I have beat machines. I got it, I got my bed and I got my piano. You know what I mean?

So my wife, you know, she sleeps beside the piano. You said, I was just saying, she called that? You know what I mean? Yeah, she's cool. That's my wife, right? So she's going to roll with me because that's what she's with, right? I get it, I get it.

Right, so the point being made, I'm just saying that to say of how much that creativity is around me and in me. So talking about it through mud, a lot of it was written right in front of my wife. Like, when I found the book, I come tell her. So she became my first audience, right? Then I'm playing something,

and she could be sitting there watching, you know, like I said, started during the pandemic, so she might be watching the news. and she's watching the news and me scoring or writing something to this story I got and I'm scoring her world. You know what I mean?

I mean, at the same time, you know what I mean? I got it. But creativity is like that for me. And even for whether it's lyrics, I got a phone full of lyrics. You know what I mean? And Jeff gave us some wisdom. He said try to die empty,

but it's probably not possible. I don't think it's possible for me because at the end of the day, the book that I'm talking to you about, it's 400 lyrics in that one and I got two of them. It's just like if I didn't say Joe is a nerd

nobody's going to hear Joe was in there except for if you was hanging out with me back in high school. Right. So that's just how it is, right? But that's the art of growth, art of creativity. It evolves, right?

In all of us. And at the level that, at my level of creativity, it's like I understand more about what inspired me, right? You mentioned knowledge guard or if you mentioned anything from the Cuban, from the purple tape, right?

It's almost like, even my experience then was more darker, more gritty, more aggressive towards the world, you know what I mean? And not saying that I couldn't get like that any time you stuck on my feet, right? Like I said Mike Tyson slap Jake when he stepped on his feet, but Jake should have stepped on his toe in the ring.

Right. Oh, yeah, woke him up, right? I don't know what I'm saying. I was just saying. You're the stuff on this toe that been deep. Right. My point made is that, you know, that energy will always want to exist. But we've been blessed to put that in our back pocket and put in our front pockets.

We could wear our creativity, you know, where our chief, where our positivity. And not to ship this to you, but it's just like, yo, you know, you get up there every night at any moment, you're going to catch a wave. You know what I mean? You know, thought might go into something. you know what I mean you might you know it ain't that be hurt like that it's just like you might you may start going you may go you may bung-bunk count the band and the the dudes may come in on the one may come in on the three you may whatever it's right you can't you can't get rid of it you know what I'm the same and so I'm the same a win is a win a win a win I don't care what you're saying yep that's me

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Don't call it. They've got two of those. I got one in my office that, uh, with the floppy disks. Yeah, with the floppy disk. I got one dog. To this day, DeAngelo, you, you must have said something to DeAngelo back in 95. To this day, to this day, still uses that in Sonic.

And I don't know how he finds floppy. discs and scuzzies. Like, for, for listeners out there, you know, this is, this is pre, pre, pre, pre, pre, pre, pre, MacBook pre gigabytes, you know what I mean? Like, and but to this day, he still has his original 1995 and Sonic and Scuzzy and the floppy discs and he said that like you said something to him about that machine and that's been his inspiration since and like you know it was a powerful machine and it still has something you know I think yay still got a couple a lot of mathematics you know a lot of the mathematics actually

did something really cool a few years ago we did an album for the soccer continues but he had the musicians play and then he just ran everything through the ASR and it should sound like it sounded vintage. Like, you know what I mean? It wasn't totally, totally bungedong, but it was over 80% closer to what a vintage sample would be, but it wasn't the sample. It was just musicians playing through the ASR. So for anybody out there who can't find the ASR, there's another thing called the DP4, which is Sonic Made, which has a lot of the effects of the ASR. So the ASR had like 50 built-in effects that you can add in one of your sample through, right? Vanderpoles and it would have a low pass.

filters and et cetera, et cetera. But the DP4 was the flagship effects model for it. So if you can't find an ASR 10 or EPS 16 plus, then you can find a DP4, you can actually still get that ASR sound by running your new equipment through that. So that's one of the to share that with your viewers. Okay. My listenership. Thank you.

And then I'll say right now for me, I think what MPC did, right? I think MPC has, for hip hop and for creativity, mastered the way the new NPC, the MPC, I guess, the throwback joints, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, but it's a software and it's a hardware all in once. You know what I mean? Right. And so that, to me, is my favorite piece right now because at the end of the day, I could put it at the center of everything and then have the simple knowledge of how to work the NPC, right?

And then run all my shit through it without even looking at my pro tools. Speaking of leaving empty, what becomes of all the residual risabits that were not used between when you first got your machine? And this is even dates back to the Prince Rakeem days of 91. What becomes of the volumes and volumes of just leftover beats and whatnot? Well, for what people will consider, you know, my prime time, it's not a lot because I had two floods. You know what I mean? That's my worst nightmare. Yeah, I had two of them, though.

It's like, it's like, how do you get two? Right? And you say left on the floor, yeah, because I'll be making beats and the floppy disk being those little cases, 80 in the case. And if you didn't mind you said it on the floor, under the keyboard. I never expected that to be an issue until it was, until my shit was floating, right? And then I built my shit differently, and the water can't come from the bottom, motherfuckers comes from the top. But I laughed at it, right, because at the end of the day, I had a flood right after 36 chambers,

right, before we get to deck, then I had a flood right after liquid swords. And then I moved to another studio, build that up, and had another water issue. And that's to run it all together. Here, go the funniest part. And while we're filming the Wu tank series, and I'm composing the music for it, and it's an episode that Mario Van Peebles is directing, which is about the flood. It caused me that morning. And I'm talking about in my Cali house, water is coming into my house.

We got the street line backed up. And I told him, y'all, gee, this shit is real. Are you a water sign person or like... I'm a cancer, so I don't know what that means. I know it's a moon, but I don't know if it's water or mud. But I will say that at the end of the day, though, it means sometimes you got to reset. Noah had to get in that arc. You know what I mean?

I had to close those doors and move. I mean, so... Are your archives protected now? No. Not like that. I'm going to say this... You didn't learn. No, I'm going to say, no, I don't think you can protect what's going to go.

That's just my opinion. So I might be too philosophical there. But at the end of the day, you know, you're going to get it out, what you get out, for the time you have to get to do what you do. And don't be shy to get a lot of it out if you can, right? I remember what I saw what I was talking about to do on that versus. He was like, girl, drop that shit. You know what I mean?

So get out what you can. But of course, some of it is just, existed for the moment, it still there's in the universe. It's still there. Even if you only played that track one time, it's still captured in that cube of time. But yeah, my archiving, I've never been good at that. I'm saying, I will say that.

I never been good at archiving. I feel you, living in the moment. Yeah. I always wanted to know what your feelings were of your level of soul, kind of having two Renaissance periods one could say that the

quote unquote chipmunk soul movement like 2000 2001 to two you know like basically I will say when just blazing yeah kind of with Justin and and and with Kanye as well

but also I definitely feel now especially like post-Graselda stuff your old droog and you know rock massiano your old droog i mean just there's like almost a second wave of it how do you feel and have you ever got the itching and i know like most creators don't want to go back they want to push for it and you're definitely pushing for it but is it a part of you that when you hear your ideas still resonate in 20 30 40 years later does that give you the itching to

reaching your stacks records power tricks to come back in and laces again? I don't think so, to be quite honest. It's almost like... Damn, okay. No, seriously, I don't think so. It's more like for me,

if something happens naturally, right, then I'm just going to do it. But I'm going to be like, if everybody starts wearing shelltoe or Ditas, am I going to throw one of those shell toes? Nah. You know what I mean?

One of my blessings and my floor, is kind of, you know, probably a personality thing. Pretty self-centered on me. Pretty sure that, you know what I mean? Like, I'm me. You know what I mean? Pretty, like, you know, and strive to. I'm not even said because as I'm older,

my humbleness is here and my humility is here. And I say, all praise is due to Allah. But I definitely came from that personality, the jest of like, you know what I mean? Like, like, dude, this is, you know what I mean? We're kind of, like, my humility, but that he said. You were feeling some sort of way? It's almost like, I'm Bruce Lee, yo.

They doing what they doing? I get. Yeah, they can't break. Like, yo, you know what? Let me do a little ego in it. They break in boards, and you got to respect them. They train themselves to break a board. But I'm breaking bricks, yeah.

All right? I'm breaking bricks. And so, if you wanted me to come back to the gym, and break some bricks for you. You know what I mean? I'll do that. But I don't need to break bricks no more, right? It's like I don't need it for the external. I better now be in the internal. So if we go back to the ballet, it's

like, yo, okay, do that, kid. Right? I get it. Then when you do that, okay, now you're doing that, cool. Guess what? Okay, you did that? Now watch watch me do virtuoso shit that you can't do because now you got to pin it in the $10,000. You put the 10 in? So that part of me is a thing. So let me just say, though, but it's a,

but it's flattering too and it's complimentary because at the end of the day, and I said this to, I think I said it's to Kanye doing Twisted Dark Fantasy sessions. When I said Wu Tank forever, I wasn't just talking about us as the figures of it.

I was just talking about we bought to the game, yo. That energy, man. That energy ain't going nowhere, you know, somebody's going to pick that up. I don't care if you pick it up from Old Duty. You know, I mean, in my analogy, and this may sound crazy,

but in my analogy, you know, dirty helps the South. You know what I mean? Dirty helps another energy expound is expand. Dirty helps Missy Elliott, right? In my analogy, right? Right. So it's just like, because I'm seeing him as, I'm seeing one artist, let's use him as an example,

I'm seeing that artist able to inspire other artists. You know what I mean? to make them, like Buster once said to me, he was like, yo, when he heard his album, they freed his brain. You know what I mean? It freed them. So somebody may get that from meth. They may get it from Ray.

Like, Rizalda, they're ripping it. I love Wizard. He put their shit on, you go listen to that shit for two hours. It still will be zoning in with another joint, right? Because the catalog has grown like that. But yeah, but do I hear ghosts? Do I even hear when maybe an unknown emcee? like Isloid in the cadets of their MC who took and who it might whether he did it

consciously or subconsciously is able to see that she be inspired and then put it back out in a different way and I'll just end with this. So they say Bruce Lee is the father of M.A. You know what I mean? He makes G. Kondo, right? So G. Kondo was talking boxing, fencing, judo, juxto, juxto, juxto, juxto, winger, chung, Choy young fat, you know what I mean, Hungar, you know what I mean?

He put all that, you know what I'm saying? Into one thing, studying Muhammad Ali and studying Japanese Kimbo, right? So point being made is that he's one of the first ones that pioneered that. But as time goes on, maybe somebody else would say, oh, that's the man.

Like Dana White's the man. You know what I mean? Or whatever. Not like that. But point being made is that, so it's flattering it's a blessing to see that that whatever we added to the culture is still there, and that others are able to find their voice. You know, I think Drew did a joint recently with one of my Rube brothers, you know what I mean?

Yeah. I was with Vok a few months ago. Just, you know, just chilling. And he's just like, yo, you know what I mean? He's like, yo, you know, being an habit, can I say this real quick? So, a habit is the one at the temple. He don't fight really no more like that, you know what I mean? He said, and meditate.

though little wisdom out now. He can fight, though. Don't get a twisted now. The abbot is just standing on one finger. You know what I mean? But he should be past that. He should be a spiritual guide, an example. So for me, going back to the ballet,

I'm continuing to show us that there is no limitation of the art that founded in us that started this hip-hop. Hip-Hip-Hop is our entry into art and culture. You know what I mean? And can that same entry, connect same energy, find itself in a classical, place where you sit in there and everybody got on a suit and tie, and there's somebody from our alumni that's presenting that night, can you sit there and watch a film and be like,

oh, shit, that film was done. Like right now, Frank Ocean is about to do his first movie, y'all. You know what I mean? Oh, that shit is, wow, Frank Ocean is, what is this artist who has this hip hop R&B foundation? What is his cinematic expression, right? I've seen Joey Kravitz movie blinked twice, right? I don't know if you watched that one. Same thing.

Like, look at this artist. It evolved, right? With some actors just would never be brave enough to even take that chance. So I'm doing that as well in my travels. All right. I feel you. But I definitely feel as though it's an homage to you in how your, you know, your style is influential. But I definitely see the importance of taking steps forward and not look

back. But sometimes I just get an itching to, you know, go back to the old neighborhood and have a fish sandwich. Yeah, exactly. You know what? But like I said, if you get that it and if I get that it, I do it. You know, there's a couple of joints that's in the oven. You know, sometimes I'd be in the studio or something like, one of my little brothers may pop over. Okay. Just hit playing because something. And it's like, it might just stay in the studio. But there's always something in there, right? And like I said, when I make beats or make music, no, of course there's days where, you know, I'm digging. At our last Vegas show, I had bought my MPC, right?

Because sometimes I like to open the show with just a lot of 808s and stuff. And I got like 40s joints. But in this particular one, there's a vis-a sample. And so since we had some downtime, I loaded it. And they just started and play. and Scratch was there, a deck was their caper was, yo, they was like, give us that shit.

It was, it was sounds and records that dudes haven't stumbled to porch, it wasn't even stacked shit. It was just, you know, whenever you dig, and you sample it and you hold it, right? But I was like, I told a scratch, yo, just come to see you, I'll give it to you. He ain't come.

You know, not that I wasn't moving, but if you didn't got there within that hour, I'm like, oh, yeah, you play with it and do what you're going to do with it. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,

or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations,

stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield,

and in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. They said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target.

He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, everyone? I'm Ago Wodom. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry. about you, which is really sweet.

He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be.

Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East-West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider,

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revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so-ins, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern.

Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Lesbian and Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Maricopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges.

This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So I'll ask you, in your arsenal, can you name five of your favorite creations? I don't know if I could do that, but I can tell you, like, certain ones that I felt very interesting, very, like, there's always a moment when you feel like. That was a moment, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that nobody, nobody did that. And they, I did that, and they can't do it. And they might can never do it.

Oh, maybe they can. But especially technology back then. So when I did glaciers of ice, you know what I mean? I think. Yeah, I was like, niggas. Niggas can't bother me. Right? And I would say that, you know, that feel.

of with that track, and it took a few days to make it. So that's another thing. It wasn't like I made it in 15 minutes, but I made that a fan at 15 minutes, right? But you could tell us just loose drums and fucking actually doing the mutes and solos on the spot. That's what makes it so bouncy. I'm just doing that shit live, right? But on Glaces, it's just like I really composed it in a way.

You know what I mean? And I kept changing. And I was very cool with the idea of what it would be. of what it became. And then I did that, right? I made glaciers before rainy days. And then rainy days set on the grill for three days too. Right?

And what I like about it is just that there was just a vibe, a feeling, right? It's not that complicated in all reality. But everything, from the sample of the intros to the thunderstorm to the girl, I sing for him, but he isn't here. Oh, yo, son. And that fucking, man, that fucking strange. fucking tremolo down

to fucking boom boom the bass, yes. Yeah, it's like, what the fuck? All that shit just came to that moment and then the hook. Like when I told Blue Raspberry, I want you to sing this shit. Yo, can you please tell me

how did Blue Raspberry get in the game? Because to me, like, she doesn't get enough credit or whatever for, like, her ad lives and what she adds to the game. How does she wind up in the click? Well, I think Rayquan met her first early on, too, back in Atlantic City. I think at one of those early rap things, he got contact with her.

She actually sung for us that night. She sung Whitney Houston as good as Whitney Houston. Then she went in blue. She hit that patty note. As you hit that note in places, that kid. Yeah. Right. She was one of the only person I was doing it beyond, you know, in real life.

And so I just always brought her to the studio. And when I would do her, it was just like, I'll just tell her to sing this song, saying this song, saying this song. And she had such a good repertoire, like on Method Man Sandman, right? Mr. She said. That's her again.

I'll tell her, sing these songs. And then I would take them and then put them in the ASR and chop them into something else. And I just thought it was as unique that she was like a living two box. So her name was Candy, of course. But let me say one thing, about her that I'm proud to say earlier this year, January of this year, I did a concert in Colorado. So I'm part of this imagination artist, so I have, I owe them three concerts. This is my

second one. And I did Cuba Links orchestrated, you know what I mean? So we trotted it out, we got the orchestra to play. And I bought Blue Vasbury to do her parts. And bro, she got a stand in ovation, she just was, and she came out like she was, she was like a, she came out like a rethink gladys. She had this dress on. She, I mean, she felt so good that night and I was so proud of her. And yo, she was flawless. She's like a celebrity, you know, one of those, every celebrity don't make it, but you know what

mean? Some of our greatest, it could be in a mental asylum. Some of our greatest are stuck right in that home because maybe from pregnancy or, you know, or from something in life that turned that role a different way. And not saying that, you know, she didn't get some accolades and she had some success in her life. But for her level of talent, the crowd, like, they just, they, I didn't tell them to stand up.

She just was killing that shit. Was there ever going to be a Blue Raspberry album? Yeah, I wanted to do a Blue Raspberry album. I had to assign the foundation the fourth disciple. Okay. But he, you know, he was kids and shit, kids and kids being kids. All right.

So you said Glaciers of Ice and... I mentioned rainy days. I thought it was special. I was just saying special. I think Brain the Rock is special. Really? Right? Yeah, I'll tell you why they're bringing the workers is special.

Follow it, right? It's so hard to follow it that... That's what makes it special to me. I don't even count that as the first song on 36 Chambers. Like for me, like, same on a new. is the first. It makes it. Shame is contained.

But even though shame goes a little bit off the rails, it is pretty contained. I'm going to challenge you. Okay. No, to go ahead and follow it because

it actually, and I didn't know that, right, but it's actually a composition, almost like an orchestrated composition. Yes. It starts one way, it builds up,

it gets to this. So I just think that the part of beat making that I feel confident in, if I want to say, you're asking me about what I think is dope, I think that when I'm able to tell a story

with the music before the MC even gets on it, like, if you take the rap walk and just listen, it's still shit happening and the shit is going. It ain't just like a four-bar phrase that I'm just dropping the snare, dropping the drum, adding the high-hats, and doing the one on a four-drop.

It ain't that. It's a lot going on to that motherfucker, you know what I mean? That, to me, it's my my thoughts, when you're actually like, what impresses me, when I'm able to do that. You know what I mean? Got it. For me, I'll say that, I know you're always tired of Katz asking you, like, if you were to pare down Wu tank forever to a single album, would you be able to?

For me, deadly medley, I want to redo that joint because that to me is one of the heaviest. I don't know. That was a crazy. That was a very, it makes me want to car drag a garbage truck and just ramming in a wall.

Oh, it's good. See, now you see, so I'm glad you respond to stuff like that. So some stuff is for the aggression. It's straight up for fuck that. We kick in it. That's my walking music in the morning. When I do my 5,000 steps in the morning,

Nelly Mealy is on that mix of it. It just makes you walk different, man. That's crazy. That's my shit. You know what I like on that album? Doo. Bell's a war. There we go, bum.

Yes. The track like that, I like a track like that because, once again, if you don't have the lyrics, it's telling you a story. Lloyd, now as you open up that record,

I got to ask you, man. First of all, let me finish my other four. Stroke of death on Ghostface record with the backwards record shit. If, yeah. Oh, God, yo, almost, I literally almost crashed my card that shit. Like, you know, I just, like I said, that was aggression. But it's like, yo, it's like, remember, I don't, I know you remember this. Look, sometimes at the block party, the DJ throws

something on and somebody get punched in the face. That's how it was. That's how hip-I-was. You know what I mean? For this podcast, a lot of those that have been privy to going to Latin Quarter would tell me that when Stessasonic's ghostetka comes on, that meant, yo, run. Run, right?

Run, exactly. My third joint, probably my all-time favorite Wu-Ten. Canon song is the stop by ODB. Mm-hmm. Mm. To this day, like. He started the foundation of that beat, though.

He, so ODB, he bought that beat to me. I got him an A-S-R. Right. He made four beats in his life. Okay. Right? Or four that he played me. And this was one of them.

You know what I'm saying? And I was like, all right. And all I did was after Bats. and, you know, a few sounds for it. But that groove, boom, doom, doom, doom, I just put the bread,

doom, doom, doon, the brother got the bread. I put that little thing in there. That's the add to it. But that was his total groove, its total rhythm. And Brooklyn Zoo as well, people don't give ODB the credit for that either

to mask and most of the credit. And I get some credit for it too. But, no, ODB, he only made a few beats. Even though he was in a human beatbox, he could have made a hundred beats. But he just used the equipment, you know what I mean? And shit, but that's one of them. So, man, glad to hear that.

That's one of your... My last one, and again, it's only because when we were living in London, broke, hungry, borderline depressed. We have a way different relationship with Ticala than you did. And I know, Metha always says, like, I hate that album, but that album kept our sanity. Like we were living in London at the time when just like all you had, there was no internet, no streaming. So you were forced to listen to against your will like, I'm a scat man. And like just all of whatever was on pop radio at the time.

So we just always kept. But PLO style on Cal was like. That was, you know what? Actually, you know it's weird? There was one time, I'll say like maybe around 94, 95, we were basically pick a Western European country and stay there for a month and just hit every city, every club and whatnot. There was one time when we played in the south of France,

and this is how sneaky pre-internet life was. there was a crew in France that basically committed the entire Tical, the entire Bill for Cuba Links, and the entire return to the 36 chambers. And we sat backstage, we're like, yo, these motherfuckers are actually doing the whole entire dirty album from start to fit,

as if it was their joints. I know these lyrics from somewhere. and, you know, they use other instrumentals and try it, but the audience did know any better. I mean... A win is a win. A win is a win.

I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way,

this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered, conversations with some of your favorite athletes,

creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest

conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the Eye Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield. And in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man.

A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.

Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wodom. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers, Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and The Big Money Players Network.

It's Will Ferrell. Woo. Woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place they come.

Look for all. up-and-coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.

It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat, just hang in there. Yeah. It would not be... Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest.

The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the Iheart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth.

You doctored this particular test twice in so-ins, correct? I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Lepin and Michael Maranini.

My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Two of your most eccentric creations.

I'm obsessed with. First one. How did black shampoo come to be? Fucking, I think that's the Cursewell machine, right? Right. So I think it was, I think the machines, but you know, I knew the lyric. He had the lyric. And so I was like, fuck it, let him loose on it.

It was definitely very, it was that, to be honest with you, it was black shampoo. And there's another one that wasn't on the, the American album for a sun shower. Wait, sunshowered from, wait, that ghost released? No, no, not the sun with slip wick and all that. Okay.

No, no, no, I'm talking about sunshowers the power. Nope. Because there's a ghost version. Okay. It's one, it was on a Houtang Forever album, but only on a European version. Okay.

I'm not only saying, that in black shampoo were two of the last tracks, and it was kind of, at the time, I think I was really thought it to Bobby Digital creatively, right? You know that we recorded Houtain Forever and the Grave Digger's second album at the same time. You know that, right? I didn't know that you did it.

I had everybody live in L.A. Well, for at least two months, music ping pong. But we had to stay in L.A. for two months, the Grave Diggers came out. We had American studio, had the whole shit locked down. I was just going room to room. It's making both albums. You know what I mean?

Okay. So I think, and then at the end of the day, day, Bobby Digital was coming. So I think that I started, like, stop sampling and started playing more of the machines and Blackpool was a result of that. And you got lyric, you know, some baby oil shit, you know. Got it. Okay.

Yeah, I was going to say, in your second most eccentric beat that I'm obsessed with, how many people ask you about the guitar center commercial? Oh, shit. You don't understand, yo. There's an obsession with. with trying to figure out. Like, it's so wild and crazy. I don't remember it totally.

But I don't remember. I knew you weren't aware of it. There's an underground society of beatmakers that, like, I'm trying to get my boy Strow Elliott right now who's in the roots to, like, flip it. Like, you remember, you were doing a demonstration beat. On the spot or some shit on that. Yeah, on the spot.

Yeah, on the spot. Yeah, I remember Dallas Austin had made this machine called the beat thing, right? It was the first machine that I saw that had a battery power for two or three hours, meaning you could make the beats on the plane.

Exactly, right? And so, you know, I bought it just for that. I've never released a song from it or nothing, but it's just like, I'm on a plane, I'm not wasting my time. Just messing around, right, I get it. And then at guitar center, I remember him talking, I said, you don't got to buy that shit.

You can just have this shit. And you can just do this. shit. Yeah, but I don't remember the beat at all. Nah, bro. There's a whole underground society trying to figure out, because, you know, the crazier your beats are, it's like we just sit and try to analyze that shit, like, try to figure it out. Even if it's ugly, I appreciate it. No, when it's ugly and stinking and unorthodox,

it's even better for me, you know? I don't consider, like, oh, good song, bad song. It's just... Like Rufus Thomas doing the dog, right? Yes, absolutely. Monkey Paine. Of the many disciples that also, like, co-produced, which you, who's the disciple of your arsenal of, or your generals of producers that you work with, that later went to, you know, helm for the projects and not, like, which ones do you feel, like, really?

I mean, I'm not trying to make you play favorites. I can break those buttons down a little bit from the avid seat. Look, first of all, I think fourth had the most potential. Let me say some of my fourth disciple. You know, for those times, I don't know how as time change, but during that time period, he didn't have a lot of records. He made his collection of beats and songs almost from one crate. Okay.

You know what I mean? This one crate that he had contained, a hundred tracks for him. They have sample Love Story four or five, maybe even ten times for his catalog.

You see what I mean? Because of, the way he did it, the pieces that excited him or the rendition of the version of that song. You know what I mean? So I think he was very special,

but yet don't have a lot of material. True Master, I think, who was already making beats and He was hanging with us, hanging with Premier. You know, he introduced us to Premier. You know, I knew Keith before that. But True Master, I think if you listen to True Master tracks,

I think he's the most consistent at staying at a sound. Right? He stays at that. He did fish, I think. Yeah, fish. I know he did fish on a ghost's joint. You've been warned? And he did Brooklyn Zoo, too, correct?

Yeah, exactly. Got it. So I'm saying. So he's consistent with like, it's going to be hip hop. It's going to sound like woo. It ain't going to sound too far fetched on the left. You know what I mean? But then the brother who I think put the most time into it is the fifth,

the last people, who was mathematics. You know, he came in late, but he never stopped. He's still, you know, even right now. Matha drops some shit on you right now. And it's like, yo, you know, true master sent me a few tracks recently and for something he wanted me to, you know, help me. with and, you know, sounds, like I said, he's consistent. But Math, math can make a Stax album with musicians and make it sound like a Wu-Tang

thing. I believe you said in an interview that trailing Quentin Tarantino for Kill Bill prepared you for your directing debut, A Man with the Iron Fist. What's it like to work with Eli Roth? Because I only know Eli Roth because he makes one of the most disturbing you know, horror flicks of all time. Well, first of all

all, man with the iron fist, man, Eli, we laugh because I wrote the first draft myself but I was still, you know, at the, I'm going to say novice level. I was at the intermediate level. I wasn't good enough to really write a whole movie. I was getting there, you know,

for something with Quinn. So let's just say this was my college sheet. But I needed help. And Eli, you know, he used to always be at Clinton House. You know, we watched a lot of movies together. I consider him a classmate. You know, it's like four of us, you know, like maybe Edgar writer be up there, you know what I mean?

So he, you know, helped me finish, helped me write me on the Iron Fist. And because I got it written, I was ready to direct it. But the funny thing is, as a writer, and we did the film, it was like some of the stuff that is gory, like, he'll, I say, they're going to blame him. for it.

The male guy if it's like they chop his arms off all that shit. No, that would be. And there's some of the stuff that was actually funny and soft, it was him,

which is interesting because exactly, it doesn't make no sense. Right, exactly. Okay. Funny thing is, you know, don't forget I'm a grave did. I got you.

But the thing, you know, studying with Quinn is a blessing. That's got to say that. You know, a lot of people got to go to college and get there

and get their education. I was blessed to get it do, I'm gonna just use this world as a definition of it, through apprenticeship. You know what I mean? I was willing to sit beside great masters. You know, every time I acted in the film, like, you know what I was an American gangster?

I'm sitting beside Willie Scott, yo. And then the Rizza helps, you know what I mean? Meaning like I'm not like some bum, some bad related. Like, you know what I mean? I travel well, you know, not to use money here, but I'm a multi-millionaire, so it's not like I need anything, right? So, yeah, I can meet you in Italy. You know what I mean?

and we could talk about it. So what was Camp Quentin like? Because for me, one of the things I'd like to do the most, if I ever have free time, I love going to his two movie theaters. I always go to New Beverly. Nice.

Like, I'm always, I'm always, because his collection is just the illness as far as, but I know that studying it under him and he's so, like he likes the energy of creative people. Like, what was the whole process like with Kill Bill?

How do they, call you and... But like you said, his movie theaters, before his movie theaters, it was his house. Right. All those prints, he would show him at his home and invite his friends over. You know what I mean?

And I was amongst those friends. And then I was, you know, brave enough or humble enough to be like, y'all, can you teach me? You know, I want to learn. And him also, he doesn't know how to use music or quick. I mean, but he's a very musical guy. He could have been a music producer based on him here.

You know what I mean? So he was like, okay, you share that knowledge. So we share knowledge with each other. Of course, share friendship and spend a lot of time together. But the time is, if you want to make movies, then watch movies. If you want to write books, then read books. Right. You want to write a movie, then study scripts.

I bought 50 scripts just to read them. Like, I'm reading Breakfast to Tiffany's. You know what I mean? I'm reading The Breakfast Club. Fuck it. I read both of them. right? Because these are successful scripts. You know what I mean?

And then at the end of the day, though, I also get to, you know, like before Kill Bill was finished, you know, he read it to me, parts of it. And then when it was finished, he gave me a copy, you know what I mean? You know, Django, I was writing, Mount Diamond is why he was writing Django. He was on page 40. I was on page 90. So I was blessed. And Eli as well, you know what I mean?

It was, you know, that crew, Elvis Mitchell. There are certain crew with people and all that now. And then me, I was sponging the knowledge. I was allowing the knowledge to sponge on me, taken and absorb it. And it's give you one idea how something, like how a day would go. It was like, yeah, I got, I'm doing a double feature tonight.

You know, I mean, it could be Paul Mazzurkey's film, right? Fucking, you know what I mean? Chris Pistopherson's fucking four films or something. Like we're going to do a convoy and maybe cast on over one. one of his joints, right? And so I'm like, cool. And so we go and watch him. You know, we've watched so many films.

The Korean was such a film cinephile, right? Yeah. That he had 35 millimeter prince, so you watch it in a big deal. That's one thing. But then he had 16 mill of prints. So now that means you've got to watch it in the living room. Right.

For what? It's four in the morning now. Who tapped out? Who were ready for the next one? Me. I'm like, you know, we hip-hop. That's studio time. I can go to six in the morning.

And then he have all the books that he allowed access to. Like, yeah, we want to take a book, read a book, whatever. You know what I mean? You know? Yeah. Yeah, like, that to me is, that's the dream. Like, for real.

Like, I love old archives and movies. Like, I'm, I was so envious that you had access to that man. That's, that's... I would say someone about them real quick, too. So people would, you know, just for us. Sometimes people like, oh, he says this world and his movies a lot and all that. And it's like, it's hospitality.

It's like, you know, my brother, freedom, my younger brother, you know, there's some time and all that, you know. Even if I wasn't in town and Crayne was showing a movie, you let my brother come and watch it with him. And give him a room to spend the night. And freedom is straight up. And it's just like, when you fan,

Only you family. And that's, so he was the godfather. You know what I mean? He was the habit of film for me. You know what I mean? And I would come with my peoples, and he always has supreme hospitality. And also always would give us a little bit of wisdom.

You know, one day, one of my men that got murdered. And this was the night that we had a plan to do something together. And I was going to, you know, I came to the class. I said I'd be there. So I got there. I see, I'm actually, I don't want to go. I got a problem I got to deal with. So what are you talking about?

Hold on, hold on. We planned this shit like a month ago, right? So I'm like, yeah, so I, hold on. Let me make you a margarita. Let's talk about it. And so we talk about the problem. Yeah, my man, that. And so, you know, maybe, I don't know, right?

Bung, bong, right? Process. Yeah. And also deal with some things, right? He said, hold on, Bobby. Let me explain something to you. He said, you got to understand. You said, you're up here, right?

And there's not a lot of people from your community, from your generation, from your culture that's up here. You're up here just so that you can reach down and pour somebody else up. That's why you're here. So you can always be able to reach down and pour somebody up up. If you ever go down, there's nobody up here

that can reach down. You know what I mean? So keep moving up here. That's kind of what I want to close with. You know, I've been studying you. and this is kind of what I brought up the last episode for you personally. And I feel like there's a few of us that, you know, when we make it, there is a survivor's guilt that sort of overshadows us a little bit.

How do you deal with the idea of survivor's guilt or the idea of like not everyone can come with you? That sometimes you have to save yourself, put your own. oxygen mask on first before you can help other people. At the end of the day, I do help, right? I continue, you know? You know, that's just what we got to do that because that's part of our blessing, right? At minimum, I just use the Bible on this one.

At minimum, you got 10% tides, you know what I mean? So at minimum, you know, so I started to compartmentalize it, you know. I have my wife, you know, who has a good head on her show. and have my older sister. And sometimes we'll choose who to help, who've been helped five times already. All right, though, that's the fifth time. Let them go.

You know what I mean? But we are here to help. Believe that and know that, right? And the blessing, though, I hope you feel the same, is that sometimes you do go out to the world and you see, you know, whether it's homeless people, you know. I remember Ryan with Jay one day and we got to a light and he stopped the car. Oh, stop.

stop, stop. And roll down his windows, it's just poured out a few hundred, just getting some homeless guy, all right, go. You know what I mean? And, yeah, I do the same shit. That's why it's my man. But it's like I've seen the natural,

I seen goals do the same thing, right? Is this how we are? That's how, but the beauty of it is that because we deal with, hopefully, we deal with all the stress and the obligatory thing of helping others, the pressure of family

needing help a lot and not never satisfied because you may help them five times they want to ten times right but then you're still able to go home to your peace if I wasn't able to go home

you know what I mean like if I go back to East and I go to the room mansion that shit is in the woods bro it's quiet so I go back to that temple then I'm able to calm my shit down re-evaluate and go back out again.

So the best way I can say that is that you got to be able to plug them back and see yourself. Right. And the last thing I say is that at this age, I realize that really helping people don't mean give them no money. That's the person that they want. You know what I mean?

That's not what they need. You know what I mean? The money is almost like, it's like food. You want to eat it and shit it out. Right. They need to know how to fast. they need to know something else.

And at this age, I've been doing that more, you know, like striving to like, okay, I'm going to get them a little blessing. But now I'm going to help people. Now let me hit him with this. And if they don't take this after I gave them this, then that means they don't want me. They want this. And they better go find out something else because money is something that.

that you bless your family with, but I will say this too. Money is something that is earned. I mean, it's something that is earned. And if you don't earn it, you know what I mean? You will never know the value of it. There it is, brother.

Bong, bong. Thank you, brother. Thank you. I appreciate it. This is Questlove Supreme, our part two conversation with the Riza, man of renaissance, and, you know,

I'm not even going to ask you, what do you have next down the pipe? because I know you're always going to have something down on the pike. But thank you, man, for just years of blessing us and inspiring us, man. I appreciate that. Thank you for coming on Questlove Supreme, man. Thank you, Quest. Despite.

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