The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: Sam Jay

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

Comedian Sam Jay joins QLS in New York City for an elevated discussion about Boston being the white Atlanta, getting onto Saturday Night Live, and her upcoming standup special. This one is a lighthear...ted hang between friends who love to laugh.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.
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Starting point is 00:02:39 Listen to the Cino show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio. Oh, we're ready? All right, here we go, kids. Sub, Suprema, Roll Call. Sub-S-S-S-S-ROM. Suprema, Roll Call.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Suprema, Sub-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-Prima-R-R-R-R-R-R-A. My name is Kwestlove. Yeah. This is the morning. Yeah. I love making our guests do the theme. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:22 With no warning. Roll Call. Suprema, S-S-S-S-Sprima role call. Suprema, Sub-S-Sprima role call. My name is Fonte. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And I'm going to speak my clout. Yeah. With my girl Sam J. Yeah. And her titty's not out. Roll car! Supremia! Supremia!
Starting point is 00:03:42 Supremia Roll call! My name is Sugar. Yeah. I'm never boring. Yeah. So why don't you call me? Yeah. At 3 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Roll call. Supremia, sub, sub, Supremia, Supremia, Subprema, Subprema, Roca I'm unpaid Bill.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah. No time to play. Yeah. Let's talk about white folks. Yeah. With Sam. Roll car. Suprema, son, sub, sub, suprema, roll call.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Supremma, sub, sub, sub, suprema, roll call. It's Laeam. Yeah. With Sam J. Yeah. Um, I've met her girl. Yeah. So ladies, y'all need to stay away.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Roll call. Supremma, Supremia, Roecah, Supremma, Roecah. Supremma, sub, sub, suprema roll call. My name is Sam. Yeah. I came to jam.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Yeah. I'm from the bean. Yeah. And don't give a dance. Damn. Role call. Suprema. Subrema.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Role call. Suprema. Subrema. Supremea. Role call. Suprema. Suprema. Role call.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Suprema. Suprema. Superma. Okay. Boom. Wow. That was pretty good. Woo.
Starting point is 00:05:06 She's right in. You fell right in with it. Would you like to join the podcast? Yes. That's how I got in. This is literally how we get our guest to. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Questlove Supreme. I briefly forgot for the way I looked at me right now is like, wait, did you forget the name of your podcast?
Starting point is 00:05:27 The answer is, yes, I did. Wait, where am I? Not a nice show. Oh, okay, yeah, Quest Love Supreme. A lot of jobs, bro. This is weird. This is like a novel idea of us being in person. We got to do this more often.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yeah. More often. Fondekal, a little. What's up, man? I'm cool, man. So I didn't get to do much. small talk the last time we were together for, you know. Yeah, we had to keep it moving.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah, but with the Charlemagne episode, but tell me how's it been going. Like, how's been tour life going? I don't like it. Wait, you literally don't like touring? No. Are you surprised? Part of me wants to know if Fonte just plays, well, he doesn't play the grumpy. I don't have to play anything.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I don't feel like that's like life. That's your true feelings. Yeah, that's just really me. I mean, I just really... Like, what is your dream scenario? Kitchen counters. To make money from my house, which I've been doing for the last three years. That's pretty much it.
Starting point is 00:06:25 So you just never want to leave North Carolina? I mean, yeah, man, it's just... I mean, listen, I'm just at a point in my career where I'm not going to be inconvenienced. Like, if you're going to... If I'm going to have to leave the comfort of my home, and I've even had this talk, like, with everybody. Like, listen. All of us. I'm not a broke rapper.
Starting point is 00:06:45 So I'm not going to go out and cosplay as one on the road. You feel me? Like, I'm not going to, you're not going to have us staying in some book. No, fuck that. Like, either we go first, top in line, or we just don't do this shit at all. Because I don't have to, you know what I mean? Like, if I'm, I mean, you've been, well, you haven't been in my house, but, you know what I'm saying. But you've seen your house?
Starting point is 00:07:03 You seen my phone? I've seen it on the videos. Yeah, I have, like, you know. You got eggshell finish. We know what I mean? Yeah, I'm not going to leave my house to go live at a standard that's less than what I got at my house. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So if you can't meet or exceed that standard, I'm staying the fuck home. Damn, Fonte just took over it. Sorry, Sam. We'll have you at next month. That's all good. I'm like, that's class. The touring, like the performing I enjoy, like that hour, hour and a half on stage, whatever is great.
Starting point is 00:07:29 But everything else around it, like the travel, the food, the all that other shit. Yeah, they can have. So I just, but the shows were dope. We did San Diego, Santa Ana, Brooklyn, and Boston. And Sam, she pulled up on us in Brooklyn. Brooklyn. You know what I'm saying? I was there too.
Starting point is 00:07:46 It was amazing. We did shrooms? Yeah, yeah. You pulled up too, yeah. You did shrooms? Yeah. Fuck, I shouldn't miss the show. Before or after?
Starting point is 00:07:52 After. It was after. Oh, we need to really get into this story because I need to know how much. Did you a team? Wait, wait, wait, wait, look, time out. Ladies and gentlemen, look, my fellow 30 Rockian is here. So this is just going to be, you know, I've rather just introduce you now. You know, for real.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Like, you're, first of all, the tragedy of why the world does not know. and I know you're known for many of things, but for me, the levels of bust down. It's a tragedy that the world doesn't know this comedy, like this show more. And more than Detroiters, more than Southside, all the other shows that I've loved and then got thrown under the bus. Like, that is one of my favorite things ever. But, of course, your history at SNL, your stand-up specials 3 a.m. So many of that you've done, yes, ladies and gentlemen, please give it up for CMJ. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah. All right, now, tell me, Sam, how you got, let's get into it right away. Fonte aboard for this. How, I had some shroom gummies, and I was like, you should do them. And he was like, no. I was like, but they're fire, I promise. And I think I come off pretty trustworthy.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Yeah. So he was like, I'll do a couple. I was like, I promise you going to have a smooth ride. Which I like some now? Yeah, because I never had the gummies, and I always have to eat them or make a team. I was like, it's going to be a small ride, you know what I'm saying? All right, yeah, let's go. Oh, yeah, let's go.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Why not? Yeah, let's keep it. Everybody on board for the ride? All in together now. I have to, Steve and I have to work after. We're actually going to 30. You can't be the pusher man and not and be like, but, um, but I got it. Oh, no, I'm probably still one to two pieces.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Oh, that's, that's baby. Three to five, three to six. It's the same as the shit I gave you. That is literally. God mode is seven to ten pieces. Yeah, that's God mode. God mode. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:09:38 That's Shirley Temple. Three. That's like a half hour of... Three. Y'all I'm so jealous, y'all. I'm still out here actually chewing on real mushrooms, and y'all got them in dummies and chocolate. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I don't like the taste of... Nobody likes the taste of mushrooms. In the world? Like, just the raw dog? They tear my stomach. Yeah, you're just drinking in the tea or you don't really mess yourself. I was, like, being dumb. I was just, like, put it on top of some pizza and bite it.
Starting point is 00:10:02 It was giving me a bad time. How long have you been doing it? I would say six years now. Oh, you're very. advanced class. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like I still haven't tripped yet. I feel like I'm doing something.
Starting point is 00:10:13 You haven't gone to the desert yet? No, you gotta go to the desert. Like in my mind or? So you've done it for real. No, like physically. You have to go, like, trip somewhere that's trippable. I mean, I've done like an island, but not yet, no. Like, I'm still in the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:10:27 microducing phase of just, like, shallow water. And city tripping, like, you're not, like, stepping out. I don't even do it. Yeah, I don't understand people that can do it and function outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'd be like pulling outside. So you're an outside person? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Oh, we say? Wait, outside sets, city tripping? Yeah. Yeah. The first time I heard someone really used their creativity for it. Steve, were you with us when we were working on the, what's Ferrell's movie with the, about the, the, the, the women who, uh. Hidden figures. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:59 When we were doing the Hidden Figures. So I heard the engineer tells us a story about their clients that were coming in to do a session. I remember the engineer saying that it was like a, they're going to make a jazz record and everyone's going to do streams first and see what happens to it. And at the time, you know, I was in my old state of mind like, you guys are doing drugs? But, nah, it's...
Starting point is 00:11:22 Who did that to you? Like, what? Because I went through a face of believing in drugs and, like, believing in everything. Oh. And then I was like, no, people have been lying. Are you like a dare kid? Were you a dare kid? I was absolutely a dare kid.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Oh, I was past dare, yo. Oh, yeah. You didn't have weed smoking parents? No. Oh, my mother was like, don't. do none of that. And then I believe DARE and I was like everything leads to crack. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Oh, dear. But you from Baltimore or Boston? Boston. All right. Well, don't disrespect. I mean, let's slow. Let's say, everybody relax. I didn't know which one of disrespect.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah. I mean, there was a period where literally, I think, and all right, I'm not throwing my mom under the bus. I know she's listening in this episode. But I'm, no, I'm just saying that. I think there's a generation of people who, were hip in the 60s, Vienistic in the 70s,
Starting point is 00:12:14 and then something happened. I believe that Reagan's speech at the Republican National Committee, like whatever, his version of Obama's, Yes, We Can't speech in 2004, like he gave a speech in which really just people believed in it. Like, the original Make America Great a Grinch,
Starting point is 00:12:32 which literally that was the first time. Yeah, that was one of his things. Yeah, Trump stole that, no surprise here, from him, make America great again. And it was just a period where, like, in the 80s, people decided they wanted to atone for their sins of the hedonistic 70s in the 60s.
Starting point is 00:12:50 So everyone became like born again Christian. And then, like, Donna Summer started doing. I was thinking about crack. That's what I was about to say. Like, crack had to also be, because that was just like watching people. Like, I feel like heroin was like, people went to the war.
Starting point is 00:13:02 You kind of knew what was going on. They came back. It went fucked up. Right. But crack was just like watching a bus driver become a goblin in a week. And it was like, yo. And crack, too, it took the mothers out of the home.
Starting point is 00:13:13 So it was like, you know, like, there was always drugs in the community. Like, even if your mom, like, might have a party, did a little Coke or whatever here and there, she was still coming home doing homework. She was still cooking for the kids. Crack came and it took the mothers out of the home completely. By the way, I'm a late binger. So I just watched the last episode of Snowfall. Snowfall last night.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Yes. Oh, God. And watching Franklin Sing. Don't deteriorate. You just did. I said deteriorate. Phenomenal. Yeah, that was phenomenal, right, the way they're phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Now I've realized, and, okay, for those that didn't see it. Boyd alert, spoiler alert. Once they happened to walk past the set of you know what. Right, seeing that, you know, that made it, that even brought it more full circle for me. It's like, wow, this guy, like not even seven months ago was. was Franklin St. like the powerful, whatever. You know, and now he's
Starting point is 00:14:14 one of the, now I wonder, like, how many other people I've dismissed as like, oh, 100%? You crack it. Oh, yeah, for sure. Not knowing that person had a history. And that was alcohol for Franklin. I don't even think he hit, was, what was that crack with him? Yeah, it was alcohol.
Starting point is 00:14:25 It was alcohol, but, you know, you know, you know what we're going to lead to. People were like, yeah, people were definitely debating the alcohol or, like, did he do crack it? Like, I was like, nah, I think that hit with the Wanda. It's like he, I think that was a part of the psyche is like he still thought he was better than them. Then to do the crack.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Yeah. It's like, oh, those are, I'm not that. You know, like he still had a disillusion man. But you're in a, but you're an addict nonetheless because, I mean, the way you begging your mama for money, the way you begging your homie. Oh, yeah. Just get that three million. Just let me get that.
Starting point is 00:14:56 The money was the crack. That's what I was saying. Because when he went to Leon for that three million, it was very feene. It was very feeney. When you brought the gun out, you're like, you won't give me that. Or just the way he was sweating and then I'm going to just go do this. And then I'll pay you back and make you an officer to come here. I was like, oh, my gosh, speak out.
Starting point is 00:15:12 This is crack-haired shit. Damnton Idras, we're coming for you. That mirroring of, like, what a drug addiction and him and his addiction and, like, how they perfectly, like, that scene with his mom in the jail. Yeah. When he's, like, raging and screaming. It's like, yo, that looked like pooky when they was putting them in the joint in New Jack. You know what I'm saying? So that said, yeah, it was just in the early 80s, you know, starting with Little Richard, start with Donna Summers.
Starting point is 00:15:38 It's like all these celebrities started being like born again Christians or whatever. And I guess when you're 40 years old... Little Richard stopped suck a dick. He did. Well, he stopped. Well, he did. And he was like, don't even put that all my life. Like, when people were still trying to put that, he was like, no, don't bring that devil stuff over here.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Right. Black people have always been super conservative. And they demonize weed because only black and brown people were doing it. Don't forget about Freddie's documentary, the grass is greener. Exactly. So that said, yeah, I was just taught that all drugs are bad. all da-da-da-da-da-da and then once the pandemic came you know I started microdosing which was necessary because like microdosing weed or microdosis shrooms shrooms
Starting point is 00:16:18 he went on there was no gateway drug we're from tasty cakes to shrooms that's what I'm like talking about in my personal opinion shrooms are like the Shirley Temple of that's the second Shirley Temple reference you made today no I'm just saying like Like I was waiting for like, all right, when do I become a crack kid? Yeah. And the only thing that started having was I started crying, but I wasn't sad. You got feelings. Yeah, but I realized that as a person who you never saw me cry, like I've told this story.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Even at Dilla's funeral, my most shameful moment was I'm never going to let Tariq see me cry. So I had to run out the funeral service, cry, come back in and kept running out coming. Yeah. You needed drugs. I did. Yeah, he's been there's a thing. Like, I've just been taught like that whole Tony Soprano
Starting point is 00:17:12 if you're a leader, never let anyone see you in a vulnerable moment because they can use that. Like, they get happy if I drop a drumstick. So what's going to happen if I start crying? Did you know that, Amir? Did you? Was running from crying in front of him?
Starting point is 00:17:26 He just found out now, but he doesn't listen to Questlove Supreme Show. I can't imagine he's one of our biggest listeners. So your first drug is pandemic. Well, I mean, there was the time. I accident. At Amsterdam.
Starting point is 00:17:38 So in Amsterdam, I didn't know about weed brownies. So, you know, I was like, I'll join you guys and see what it's like here. It was the first night there. And I sat at the bar and I saw a whole bunch of brownies. And I was like, hey, I'll take that. And I took three without knowing. And immediately the bar guy was like, wait, whoa, you just took three of those? I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:58 He said, oh, no. And I was like, oh, what? And then we found out later. You ended up in. Come me chasing like, he's sweating silk all through the streets of. You should have micro brownies. Okay. All right, but that was it.
Starting point is 00:18:13 And then shrooms. Yeah, so true, yeah, I'll say that. Contact, just contact in between. Just contact. Right. I did it. No, no, no. I did a very small microdose of it.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And I realized, like, I was just in a great space where I felt, I was like, wait, why am I crime? And this is during the pandemic. Yeah. During the pandemic. So Sam and Fonte did Brooklyn's rooms. What happened? We did Brooklyn Shrooms. No, it was great.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Well, we, I did them. We was in the dressing room. She had them. I was like, all right, fucking I'm doing it. So I did them. And afterwards, we went, you went to the city. You were going to hang it. I went to the stand, I think.
Starting point is 00:18:48 The stand. You were going to the stand. I went to the day-law party. Which was fire. Which was fire. That shit was fire. I went to the day-law party. Shout, my girl Tara and my brother Don Will.
Starting point is 00:18:58 He was spinning. And there was a light, like, wall behind them. And so I was just watching the lights, like, kind of blink and shit. how long. And they was playing much more. That shit sounded amazing. Who knows? Yeah, it was great.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I was so happy. You text me and you were like, these shrews, they're nice. And I was like, yes. Nah, it was a cool little ride. I'm so happy when I get people like good high and they're like happy. No, it was cool. I mean, because drugs for me, I mean, I always grew up around drugs. And I think the DARE stuff was like looking back on that shit, like people don't understand just how insane that was.
Starting point is 00:19:33 They had police officers. Yeah, it was terrifying. loaded weapons coming to talk to fucking third graders about drugs. Like, get the fuck out of here. And they would show you crack. Maybe they would open up that thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:45 This is crack. This is post officer friendly. Oh, it wasn't. These niggas wasn't friendly. Like, I mean, they were, you know, cool. But it was still police officers with fucking weapons and you're a kid. So, yeah, it was some bullshit. But I'm definitely pro-drugs now.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Hell yeah. Mostly we read-in-truth. Yeah, we're in-truth. Yeah, we're in-truth. Now, that other shit, is that other shit? No, one day I'll try. I would like to see what Ellis... No.
Starting point is 00:20:11 LSD I can't. Molly is nice. You get Molly in here? I'm starting to think you do drugs. Who are the person? Right. What are you? I'm starting.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I did. It's not the subtle. The evidence is it jigs. Here's the change. He's going to go from 19 jobs like three. Or like none. No, no, no. For real.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Here's the scale. There's mushrooms. There's weed. Molly's in the first. family. There's ayahuasca. But again, it's, it's, I don't do it for party purposes. Like, yo, let me get fucked up and, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:43 go to the club. No, I do it when I meditate, I do it like as self-realization. Really to get in touch with my emotions because, you know, it's, if you don't express your emotions, yeah, well, again, again, it's been demonized
Starting point is 00:20:59 so much that we think that, and also people abuse it. It would be like me going to like a church and to get fucked up or in communion wine. Like, you're not supposed to... Right, right. That's not the purpose of taking communion wine. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:21:19 It helps, too, I think, when it comes to drugs outside of weed, but you definitely helps me you have black people, like, to introduce that to you. And, like, Sam, you know what I mean? Yeah, oh, for Sam to introduce that to you. Yeah, it's like, I'll fuck with it because it's... You have to have people you trust. Stephen. And Phil...
Starting point is 00:21:34 Listen, I trust. If they introduce, I would, but... I get what you're saying. I feel like I could... White high and black high. My first Molly was with my black lawyer friend. And I was like, you're a lawyer. You go to work every day.
Starting point is 00:21:47 You care about your life. Your shit is together. Hold on. If I gave you drugs, you want to take them? No, I absolutely would fucking take them. You said there's a white high and a black high? Yes. Let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Have you not heard the Richard Pryor-Asset sketch? Bro, like, I went to high school with the motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? So I saw, like, these motherfuckers, like, the shit that we would do would be, like, go to the store. There was a store called Gus's. The way we're talking about white people and they're not these motherfuckers. We're talking about, like, aliens. Like, y'all, I wouldn't part of you.
Starting point is 00:22:20 It's different. It's just different. And I just had to see that for myself. They huff. Yo, for us, it was like, we would go to the store. There was a store called Gus's where you could, they would sell, you could get, you know, liquor or wine or whatever. So we'd go and get our little booms farm or some bullshit, right? We was on Boone's farm.
Starting point is 00:22:36 The white boys I played football with, these niggas was on acid. Like in high school. You know what I mean? Like these niggas was like 16. Like their parents leave and shit, these niggins, like any drug. Those are chemically. I will say this. I don't trust that shit.
Starting point is 00:22:54 All of the Wyoming's that I had that I did drugs with, I super trusted because, like, not for nothing. White people like be knowing, like, what the shit does. Like, he's like, nope. this goes to this part of your nervous system and what it does is it releases a chemical it's the same chemical that releases when you pee and you're like, all right man
Starting point is 00:23:13 you've got a lot of information, brother. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clever Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball
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Starting point is 00:25:01 I'm John Green. I know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars, and now I guess also as the co-host of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since. Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, it's hope, it's heartbreak, and above all, it's beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Auerkone and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like it's going to be interesting. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real House Wise franchise. the drama, the alliances, and the T, everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game. As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this.
Starting point is 00:26:45 At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. On a recent episode of the podcast, Money and Wealth, John Hobriant, I sit down with Tiffany the budgetista Aliche to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money. What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they're no longer here? We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset shifts. Too many of us were never,
Starting point is 00:27:23 ever taught. Financial education is not always about like, I'm going to get rich. That's great. It's about creating an atmosphere for you to be able to take care of yourself and leave a strong financial legacy for your family. If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more. Listen to Money and Wealth with John O'Brien from the Black Effect Network on the I'd Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:57 All right, so there's a documentary out called Fantastic. fungi. Okay. Ooh. And I highly... This is fantastic. No, no, I highly recommend it. It's a documentary that came out in 2019.
Starting point is 00:28:10 And it literally explains the benefits of mushrooms, not just hallucinogenic mushrooms, but the purposes of mushrooms on Earth, which literally nature takes some mushrooms. Like when mice or animals decomposed in the parks or whatever, it's mushrooms that, even mushrooms growing inside the body. once decomposing process happens when you... Ew. Mushrooms growing inside. Our bodies?
Starting point is 00:28:37 Yes, dude. Like, literally, watch Fantastic Funga. It's... I don't want to because now I'm going to think the Last of Us is real. It could be. I mean, I believe it. Oh, no spoilers.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I didn't finish the last three episodes. Oh, you haven't? No. Well, you ruined snowfall. Yeah, we ruined snowfall. And that ended way before snowfall in here, so... So, Sam, talk about comedy. Sam, say something funny.
Starting point is 00:29:01 We talk about being black in Boston outside of new edition I'm very proud of you Fonte I know we planned well you guys had the first QLS play date
Starting point is 00:29:14 well mine is being a bill To Tomorrow Well right I can't do it tomorrow Because I have to work Right But you know
Starting point is 00:29:23 One day Unless you're tripping balls You might just stay home Which would be awesome To call into work Tripping balls No, we should actually do it the right way one day and do a retreat. Do a retreat.
Starting point is 00:29:36 You should work your way up to that. What do you mean? I did much. What I need to do, Molly? I can't trip with Lai. Do you just do the mushrooms right now? No, no, no. I've been doing them.
Starting point is 00:29:44 They just, I have a high tolerance. You have to feel what mushrooms does, I think, before you can ayahuasca. We just like smoke weed and sit on the side because I got kids, man. I can't go too far down. What's your fear of? First of all, I did a lot of drugs in college. They're great. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I just feel like a lot of, not that a lot of people don't depend on all of us, but like I have kids that depend on me. It feels like a whole lot of responsibility. And that just fucks me up. And I think it would fuck up the, you don't want to be out of control. I mean, I love being, we've met. I love being out of control. But like that kind of out of control where I literally can't control it, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:30:19 You don't think you would come back? No, I think I would come back. I think I would just, at this time of my life. You think you'll feel different about your family. Yeah. I mean, I'd freak out. They're 10 and 12. You'd get some phone call on the middle of us.
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's a weekend. Oh, because you're saying you could unlock something in your brain, and then you'd be like, oh, I actually hate these niggins. What I really need to be back and forth. I already do that. I assure you a lot. Yes, I assure you that once, the first thing that you do when you start, because the thing is, is that I've conveniently managed to avoid issues,
Starting point is 00:30:53 people, things in my life as a means to just survive. and once this forces you, now I feel like I'm old, Damon Wayans and a living color. The proclivity. Right, wait, how did you know a motherfucker state? I watch it in the color, though.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I watch it every day. Yeah, I don't want to sound like Oswald Bates, but the first thing that you will probably reassess and reevaluate are your relationships. Now, for me, I realized, I realized, I realized in 2020 I don't need that shit Who needs that?
Starting point is 00:31:30 Yes you do Come on man I got divorced I'm good about my relationship But the thing is I know some shit We're so I think one of the biggest fears
Starting point is 00:31:39 We have in life Is advocating for ourselves Just to keep it on This morning I was a half hour late to this podcast Mainly because I was literally On the phone Trying to manage
Starting point is 00:31:51 expectations Of certain industry professionals That felt left out But those aren't your expectation to manage, though. Right. But previously, I would have been crying to Kara Lewis and calling up my manager like, hey, can we include that-da-da-da-da-da-in this project and da-da-da-da-da-da-in this project and done-a-da-da-da-knack.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Right. And the thing is is that, no, no. Well, I also said, like, my favorite line from Ring, Ring, Ha-ha-A-Hae is Macy O-G, Pasa's doing the problem to producing. Right, meaning pass the buck to someone else. But once you get to a place where you decide, you don't want to manage other people's expectations of your life. And that's like, what will da-da-da-da say about me,
Starting point is 00:32:34 what a da-da-da-da-da is going to not like me because I did this. I don't want to disappoint, blah, blah, blah. And sometimes the people that you have to do that with might be your own flesh and blood. And that's a hard, like advocating for yourself is such a hard place to get to you. When does this come about therapy for Bill? I like it, though. Let's get it to it. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:32:53 The main reason why I stress this. is because if I don't realize it, my body already knows it. And like, imagine carrying Michelin man levels of water in your body, swollen, like elephant man level. Like, technically lymphodema is like kind of a cousin to elephantitis. So all those tears, I'd never cried, all those, I mean, I joked about the hip-hop 50. the first place I went to when I landed from Hip Hop 50 in the Grammys, I had to go to Dennis because my tooth fell out.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Why? Because I let seven weeks go by without me, you know, people pound. How come this has more verses than me? How do no, no, no, no, no. And all that anxiety of me just taking it in and not, like, in freezing it, cause my body just go, my tooth fell out. So I'm just saying the best thing you can do for your kids, You know, Bill is really like, why me?
Starting point is 00:33:56 The best thing that you can do for your children is to... Drugs. No, the best thing you can do for your children is to ensure that you will be here to the age of 90. To see your great, great, great-grandchildren is to literally be here in the best mental health and the mental state that you can be in. And... Ooh, that's heavy. You just pushing up.
Starting point is 00:34:18 No, we just got scary shit. I assure you, no one has a scary life than I'm. I do. And the fact that most of this nice guy and this whatever, Questlove, nice guy shit is really a mask of, like, the nicer person is, I assure
Starting point is 00:34:35 you they got more anger, pain. It's like Nate from, it's like Nate from Ted Lesser. Yes. Yo, I love you for saying that. Yo, for real. Like, that's what you don't want to be. Okay. That guy. Okay. Damn.
Starting point is 00:34:49 So let's talk about comedy. Yeah. This is a hilarious conversation. I'll do drugs. Fuck it. Let's do it. I just want to do it today because I have to drive. That's responsible. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I'm walking. Just a weekend. I do want to do it. A weekend retreat, though. That would be nice. Yeah, I think we should. Isn't it a little frustrating, though, to go to that world and then see it and then knowing you have to come back and live most of your life in this. But you come back a changed person.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Yeah, I think the idea is that you go to this other place and the lessons you learn there, you're able to apply. Yeah. Yes. I only recommend this for people that are actively trying to improve their life. You know, I wasn't the world's best communicator. I was not the most emotional person on earth. Like, I was a technical person. You're still a work in progress.
Starting point is 00:35:36 We all work in progress. We've been patient with you. Yeah. So all y'all need must be just pretty damn face. Yeah. That was beautiful, guys. Thank you for bringing us up, Sam. I like this.
Starting point is 00:35:47 I like you for him in a circle. Thank you for me. Yep. Time that Sam gave fun. drugs and now Bill's got to do high waska. Fuck all this shit. All right, cool. Who was a unit? So this is what I always wanted to know, Sam,
Starting point is 00:35:59 because, you know, I came to 30 Rock University, like, in late 2008, early 2009. I already had my preconceived notions of what it was. And being as though, okay, for some, I can't explain why,
Starting point is 00:36:16 but I'm literally going through every episode of SNL. So right now, I'm in 1983. Oh. I'm literally watching the evolution of the show. Yeah. And of course, I'm asking myself like, yo, how do, well, one, how do they get away
Starting point is 00:36:30 with this, but just like the mind state of what comedy was back then, I'll say that, thanks to our benevolent leader, Steve Higgins. Steve Higgins, for those that don't know, yeah, he's the sidekick on the Tonight Show, but Steve Higgins runs S&L. He's the main producer. So he's allowed me all the time to just go to the show. I like going to the show just to see how it runs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Because that's fascinated to me. But to also watch its evolution to where it is now, I was like, wow, like someone's really in the room now saying, like, no, we need to be seen and those sort of things. And I, you know, attribute, can you tell me how, because you're definitely part of that paradigm shift. Like, what were your expectations coming into that building? And are you allowed to talk about?
Starting point is 00:37:28 Because I also know that I've talked to many a person that had disdain or that sort of thing, like, about changing the culture there. I really had none. Like, I'll be very, like, honest about it. But I really didn't have any. Sometimes I feel like the people who did are, like, coon. But I did it. I really did it.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Because what I came in and my expectations were just like, I didn't really have any. Like, I knew I never, I had never written on a show ever. Really? I had never been in a writer's room. Isn't that it was your first writer's room? Yes. Who recommended you? I went through the audition process, but I believe it was Doyle who saw me at Just for Laughs.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Okay. I didn't really, like, I was going in like, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. You know what I mean? I'm like, I just hope I survive this thing. Because I have no idea I've never written a sketch. You know what I mean? So I'm just like, all right, let me just get in here and like try not to drown. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:30 So I didn't even have any like, I'm going to be like getting sketches on by this time. And I'm going to be like saving the show. And like, no. I was just like, I hope I can become like competent at this thing before I get fired, you know? Does the average writer have expectations like, I got to create the next cowbell sketch or the next double downer. I would imagine why wouldn't you like be ambitious in that way if like that's like you're a fucking jam, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:57 Because I know like when I got into stand up, I was like, I want to have an hour special. You know what I'm saying? So like I think for sure I just, I wasn't granted like having those thoughts for that space because it was really far into me in every way. What did they tell you about why you? What did they tell you about you? They just thought I was funny. Okay, I know if they told you about a certain bit that you did, and they were like, okay, we need...
Starting point is 00:39:21 Did you have a package, or did you actually audition to be on the show? I auditioned to be on the show, and then... All right, what was that like? Because I know Jimmy's version of it where Lauren doesn't laugh, and there's only three people in the room, and... So tell me about... Walk me through your audition process? Oh, yeah, you just, like, you go, and you're, like, waiting, and it's like... You're just down there on age, and it's weird.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So I kind of dipped out because it was weird, and I was just like, yeah, kind of like, text. me a little bit before my time. I asked like, uh, I'm in a room with other people like waiting. No, they have you in your own. Like, you're, yeah, you're taking up a dressing room.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Okay. So you're just in it by itself, but you can like hear it through the walls or the people auditioning in it. Yeah, you can just feel the stress, you know, you're just like,
Starting point is 00:40:02 oh, it's so tense in here. So I was like, I'm a dip. So I was like, I can't perform well this way because I was just doing like a stand-up set because I didn't have characters or anything like that either. So like, this really, this world is not on my map of things.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I don't do characters. I don't write sketch. Like, you know. So I left and then the person who was there, she called me. She texted me. She was like, yeah, it's about three-year-turned-turned-old. So I just came down, like, regular comedy club night and just kind of just went up. I'm curious, when you left, what's the thing that you did until you got the text?
Starting point is 00:40:38 I was some sad shit. I went to a bar in 30 Rock, the bar downstairs. Right. And I just sat there and did shots with these old lines. So you kind of nervous. With these old black women. I was just kicking it with them. They were nice.
Starting point is 00:40:52 They prayed over me. Oh, wow. I love when old black women pray on you. It was kind of like right. Come on, man. It was pretty rad. Like, not like a heavy, but just like they gave me with the blessings real quick. That shit worked, it worked.
Starting point is 00:41:05 It was nice. So when you got in, when you, I'm curious when you get in, is it something like? Yes, of course I was nervous, for sure, for sure. It's a nerve-wracking situation. And when you get in, is it somebody to kind of walk? you through. Like, what's your first day? Like, oh, the first day, you know, after audition? No, you just go to go to work. You just go to work. You just go to work. They say, write something, write something funny, and we'll let you know if it makes it. How many people were in the room
Starting point is 00:41:28 doing the audition process? It's just, it's Lauren. It was like Lauren calling, I want to say Tucker. I want to say Ken word. And I want to say. And Higgins, right? Kent and Higgins. But they were like sitting in a row, like, in the back. And it's like kind of dark in their The studio is not, like, fully lit up. How jarring was it to do comedy without having... Very. And a slew of white dudes, right? Very.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Like a slew. And you just on the stage by yourself, just like, I would do my act. Okay. But at that point, it's like, it is what the fuck it is. You know what I mean? Like, ain't no really reversing the thing. So it's like, whatever. They wanted you.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Are they looking for someone that could be confident in the face of tension? I don't know that that's always what they're looking for. I think they're just looking for different shit. Okay. You know what I mean? I think it all. comes together. It makes the thing. I think it's everybody coming from different walks of life, people coming from just, you know, different parts of comedy, coming into comedy, different
Starting point is 00:42:25 way, all of that. I think it's just like... Now, before I ask about what happens after you get the green light, how many years before SNL was your comedy journey? So at that point, it had to be, or about to be 11, I think. So at that point, it had to be about five or six or something. So like 2007, 2008? That I start comedy? Yeah. 2013. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:53 So 2012. At what point are you like, okay, people say I'm funny until you first went on a stage to do a tight three? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh man, I mean, maybe like years, like eight years or something. You know, like people. So can you talk about the process of? of from where you were in life until like I'm going to go on that stage
Starting point is 00:43:20 and day jobs and talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like it's like, you know, I feel like high school people thought I was funny. I feel like, you know, you really set to understand yourself
Starting point is 00:43:29 around that time at least certain parts of yourself. And I thought about it. And then like when I was 20, I did it once. I got, I did a show, I did a show at Dick's Comedy Vault. And I remember getting off stage
Starting point is 00:43:42 and I was like, this feels fucking icky. It just didn't. I don't know. It just felt incorrect. I was like, I don't know. That's not how that I was supposed to feel. Where's this located?
Starting point is 00:43:52 Boston. Oh, you're from, oh, God. I'm from Boston. Okay, so I've heard Patrice O'Neill's stories about Boston. Yes, so Boston, and it was underneath Emerson College. Okay. And then I got sick and I was in the hospital for a while. And then after I went down to Atlanta and I kind of just started doing other shit, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:12 I was doing a lot of bullshit, jobs, a lot of day jobs. And then I started it. What's the Sam J. Day job? What was you doing? Atlanta. Oh, my God. I worked for the Irish, like in the mail room. Wait.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Didn't see that coming. I worked. You had a communications job on the phone. I worked. Yeah, I worked planning on just, like, call centers. Yeah. I worked at this office building. I forget what they did.
Starting point is 00:44:38 But I worked at this office building and doing an office shit. I worked at Starbucks. I worked at Starbucks. Yeah, I had mad jobs. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clever Taylor the 4th.
Starting point is 00:44:59 You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite
Starting point is 00:45:17 athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:45:49 And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters
Starting point is 00:46:07 when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcasts
Starting point is 00:46:24 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault in Our Stars, and now I guess also as the co-host of the Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game, and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.
Starting point is 00:46:59 For us, soccer... Football is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, it's heartbreak, and above all, it's beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a recent episode of the podcast, Money and Wealth with John Hope Bryant, I sit down with Tiffany, the Budget, Let's Nista Aliche to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money. What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they're no longer here? We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset shifts. Too many of us were never, ever taught. Financial education is not always about, like, I'm going to get rich. That's great.
Starting point is 00:48:06 It's about creating an atmosphere for you to be able to take care of yourself and leave a strong financial legacy for your family. If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more. Listen to Money and Wealth with John O'Brien from the Black Effect Network on the I'd Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, You already know, there's a lot to break down.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Georgia accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like it's going to be interesting. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances,
Starting point is 00:49:03 M&T, everybody's talking about. executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game. As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this. At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So for you, was there any fear the first time you stepped on stage to? I feel like, yeah, the natural fear. of like, what if it, I don't know. What if it just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:40 You don't connect with it while you thought you would or something. Which I think is how I felt the first time. I'm like, it felt icky. I don't know. I'm asking one in this therapeutic way, one, because we're all quasi-tripping right now. But mostly because... Yeah, you hear that laugh.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And he ain't. Mostly because I always see comedy almost neck and neck and, with songwriting. Except with songwriting, I think the rejection isn't as hard as it is. You have to learn the lesson via silence. Failure. And the only person I know that actually reveled in bombing was Norm
Starting point is 00:50:27 McDonald. Like the way that he just embraced. It's almost like I want Norm McDonald to not be funny. Kevin Barnett was like the RIP. Kevin Barnett. Really? Kevin Barnett was like that of our dinner. Like he loved to Bob.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Kevin, it was fun watching Kevin Baum. It was a great time. And heckled a heckler. Was it for him? Was it just something? I guess you think it was like therapeutic, just kind of like facing your worst fear as a comment, just kind of leaning into it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And I think also a little bit like, man, this is who I am. Like, I can't really change that. This is really how I think about these things. This is actually with my brain. Like, so if you just don't like it. It's like you just don't like me. And I... And that's okay.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah. I don't know. I can't really do much about that. Oh, we didn't ask you that, Sam, who you kind of came up, listened to comedy-wise. Like, who were your... If there is such a thing as comedian and saying influences, then that's bad, I know. A little bit of everybody. I just really liked comedy.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I was, like, consuming it in all forms, you know, like, watching Darya, watching views in butthead, watching the state, watching kids in the hall. Okay. Watching Mr. Show. Okay. Oh, you was on Mr. Show too? Yeah. T-O-M-O.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah. My friend Patrick put me onto The Vista Show, and I was like, I'm into this. You know what I mean? Yeah, I need the state to have a proper box set of their... The state was the shit. Yeah, it was. And, like, the fact that they can't do it because of all the song clearances that they did on their initial MTV run. But I am also curious to see how black comedians that aren't...
Starting point is 00:52:05 under the direct umbrella of Pryor Murphy or Rock. Like for a lot of 90s comedians and the 80s comedians and 70s comedians, there's like one North Star. Like every 80s comedian, like Richard Pryor. For every 70s comedian, Bill Cosby was a North Star. For every 80s, it was Richard Pryor. For every 90s, it was Eddie Murphy. Early aughts was like kind of Chris Rock. But then in seeing how comedy was post, I'll say social media,
Starting point is 00:52:35 especially with what was the original TikTok the seven seconds thing Vine Vine. Yeah like Oh yeah Vine Vine like I would talk to those
Starting point is 00:52:43 Vine stars that were hilarious to me for those seven seconds Yeah And then You know I mean There's like King Back Like all this guys
Starting point is 00:52:51 To them prior and rock And Murphy are like Oh like they respect them Or whatever But their level of comedy Like I think there was a level Of black generation Comedy like
Starting point is 00:53:03 Post 2004 2005 that wasn't directly influenced from those three North Stars. So for like, what is... There's a woman come in the conversation. There's always those male North Stars. Nobody ever gives moms Mabley or somebody else. God, damn. Yeah, I don't think we're big on history in general.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Like, it's with rappers and... I mean, that's true. You know what I mean? That part of it is like I can honestly say, like, I learned about Moms Baby League after the fact when I grew up. My household was like a Red Fox, Richard Byer. Eddie Murphy
Starting point is 00:53:35 You were allowed to listen to those records? Because I had to sneak to listen to those records. I wasn't allowed to do that stuff by myself. But if I happened to be in a room and it was on, they weren't like get her out the room. So you didn't grow up in a fire and brimstone house? No, no, no, no, no, no. My mother was very much, like, she was very open-minded
Starting point is 00:53:56 about shit like that. Like, she always say, like, religion is the opiate of the masses and stuff like that to me. What is that like? Like if you're raised by a black parent in the 1900s, that's not cloaked and trapped by... Oh, shit. No, by Christian imperialism.
Starting point is 00:54:16 You're right. Because a lot of us make our decisions based on, like, fire and brimstone. Yeah. Wait, what is that like? I don't know. I guess I felt like I was taught a lot to think for myself. It was big. My house was big on, like, thinking for yourself.
Starting point is 00:54:33 And like, you didn't get no weapons. I didn't get a lot of weapons now. Talk to. You're actually able to express yourself. What a noble concept. But just like, you know, I very much are like, what do you think? And like, if I would just like divert to a question, it would like, did you think about that? Did you try to go up your own answer?
Starting point is 00:54:54 So I was just very much like. Wow. That's amazing. That. But also, you know, that's, it has its own shit with it. Yeah, because sometimes you're just like, I'm a kid, man. Just tell me what the fucking do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Right. Just give me a line. Well, she would, not to say there weren't no lines, because for sure there were, but sometimes you just didn't want to think, you know what I mean? You just... Not to discredit black parents out there, because I know a lot of them made their decision on our survival, fight or flight. I was told that parenting is sort of like you get 300-page manual,
Starting point is 00:55:32 IKEA manual five minutes before you know, hand and you don't know what you're doing. Like you learn as you go along. And my mother's was an extreme reaction to my grandmother's. He used to beat the shit out of them. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:45 So I think my mother was like, was just like, I'm just going to try to do something else. You know what I mean? Like, because I didn't like that and it didn't quite work for me or whatever, I think. And I'm also her third child.
Starting point is 00:55:58 So I don't know what she was like with my brothers and stuff. They don't tell you. They don't tell you. damn you got it easy. Yeah, but I feel like every younger sibling hears that to some way. Yeah, there was an article I was reading that day and they said like no siblings, no two siblings have the same parents.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Right. Like, because you're at a different stage. Your parents are different people. So she could have easily just saw how she fucked up on my brothers. Exactly. And they're like, man, all right, well, we're not going to do that. Right. We're going to try.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Whatever. What did your mother do? Did you just mention that? She was a physical. therapist. And your pops, was he around? Was he? My dad died when I was young. Oh, man. Yeah, but I was like a baby. I had a stepfather, though, and he worked in computers. He used to just, like, work on servers for, like, UMass.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Had of his time. Okay. When you were younger, like, what was your aspiration? I don't really think I had one. At some point, I convinced myself I was going to do political stuff or I wanted to be, like, a lawyer. You're kind of doing political stuff now. So that was, like, kind of like, I was like, I'm going to get into politics a lot, and I would, like, shadow politicians. and participate in, like,
Starting point is 00:57:03 mock government and Mark trial and shit like that. Because I thought that's what I was going to do. Mark trials were real? Mark Charles were real. Yeah, I'm sorry. I only know it because of the rest of development. Mark trials are real. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I love when other black people get that reference. Yeah. I wanted to ask you about, I'll jump in the head. We was talking about it outside. Pause. Oh, yeah. What's going on? that experience like you told me it's not coming back.
Starting point is 00:57:34 No. What's going on? You did have your own show and that's a big deal. Yeah. So. Yeah. I did two seasons of it. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I got to rock out with my friends. Damn, it was too. Yeah. I got to, you know, Jack Knight was a part of that show. Zach Vox was a part of that show. Lankshuterman was a part of that show. It was like my homie, homies. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:57:52 So it was so fun to make a show with my friends. It was so fun to make a show I believed in. And, like, that was like, true to some shit that I wanted to talk about and I wanted to say. And I love that show. I mean, I would text you and stuff like, no, that. It was a really cool thing you, too, and I'm glad I got to do it with HBO. Was it too ahead of its time, in your opinion? But I also want to know how black.
Starting point is 00:58:14 I don't want to be one of those people. All right, I don't want to make it awkward. No, well, it's a middle in there, though, though, right? Yeah. Because this was, like, a whole experience, and, like, you did some dope shit. So it's like how parts of it were out of its time, I think, parts of it were, like, hella nuanced. You know what I mean? Very much so.
Starting point is 00:58:31 And it was just like. It wasn't a show. If you get it, you get it, if you don't. But I like shit. Like, I grew up and I loved Liquid TV. Yeah. I love shit like that, you know? Like.
Starting point is 00:58:42 It didn't tell you how to feel. That was the thing I liked in this part of show. Yeah, I am like that type of person. But when you, but not hearing your childhood talk about how your, you know, your mom would, you know, challenge you on things and, like, encourage you to talk. Like, it makes sense that that's kind of how your comedy is in that way as well. It's not, it's not preachy. It's just, look, this is just another way to think about. something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because no one knows what the fuck they're talking about, man.
Starting point is 00:59:08 I had to let that sit for a minute. So when you, when you create this projects, and this can also apply to bust down as well, when you create projects that wind up being a sacrificial lamb on the altar of mainstream, right, exactly, then how do you not take it person? Like, for you is it a shrug thing like, okay, do you mourn it and then move on? Or yeah. Yeah. But also it was so complete. Like the last episode where I did my mother's funeral, it was such a complete journey that I was like, okay, a whole story got told here, and that's nice, you know?
Starting point is 00:59:47 And like, I felt good about it being that. And maybe some of it is like how about I look at music where it's like, yo, you get to put out an album and you're like, here's the whole story. I got to tell the story. And then you just hope I get to put out another album And I'll tell another story So that's kind of out
Starting point is 01:00:06 It's not something that got truncated Like you got to express the full idea Yeah, so it's like all right It's like a thing that gets to live on its own thing And then like hopefully I get to make other stuff You know Can I just ask? I'm gonna zoom out real quick And act like I'm a whole civilian
Starting point is 01:00:18 Don't really know you see you on paper And on paper you've done some like really remarkable things Like we just talked about you doing SNL Not really even Karen That wasn't even something you pursued It happened for you right Then we talked about, you know, you had your own TV show, HBO. Kind of dope.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Also, from afar, it's like, then you end up in a movie with Eddie Murphy. So is that journey, if you zoom out and look at it? Can you give us detail on that journey in that way? Like, do you feel, do you see the things that you've achieved in that way? Are you always just like, what's the next thing? Because I hear you in your voice kind of like, hopefully I get another opportunity. But in this moment, do you understand that you've done some already remarkable things?
Starting point is 01:00:55 I mean, yeah, I guess I feel like I got to do some really cool things. And, like, that shit was, like, really fucking dope. I don't know if I look at it from a lens of, like, remarkable. I'm just like, that was really dope that you got to that, like, opportunity lined up. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, what I got to learn from that even more so, you know, is, like, dope as fuck and, like, take that and just, like, move it to the next.
Starting point is 01:01:25 To the next joint. I thought about you the other day when, um, when Elon Musk. he sent like a rocket. He sent another rocket that like fucking exploded and shit. Did he? Yeah. You try to play it off.
Starting point is 01:01:36 The shit exploded. A couple of people tweeted me like Space Day is Saturday. Right, right, right. No, straight up. But I had to, until you made that joke, I, because I, too, I thought like NASA was the space niggas.
Starting point is 01:01:46 I thought they had space on lock. I didn't think. I did not, yeah, bro. Other people could do it. I didn't either. I didn't think he'd dabble in space. Like, it just didn't seem right. It was like you didn't.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Like, we read enough comic books No, you don't just let individuals start fucking around in space. Now we know. Nah. Or now they know. Like, that's not. Because he tried to send, he literally, like, his SpaceX was like size of like Empire State Building. Like, it was the tallest rocket.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I mean, again, you know. All right. So you are from Boston. I know being from a territory doesn't mean that you have run with anyone. But did you know Patrice at all? No. He went to high school with my brother. Really?
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yeah. But he's a whole other generation and you never been in comedy houses with him. No, no. That's like 20 years, right? You think of me? He would be like... Well, I'm just saying that... Sam is actually much younger than us.
Starting point is 01:02:42 We owe... Yeah, I'm like... She got a three. I think. I know, but I don't like Stevie Wonder. So, you know... True. Bird to bird.
Starting point is 01:02:50 But I'm just saying that, like, the way that he described being a comedian in Boston, there was just a different level of tension there. that really informed his opinions in life. And he mentioned a story one night. I guess if you guys remember the story of the woman who, I guess she had murdered her kids, but she blamed it on black people. In Boston's like in the early...
Starting point is 01:03:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't remember her name, but I know you. In the early 90s, like she got rid of her baby. The water? The water? Not the water. They didn't she put them in the water. No, that was someone down south. Susan's right.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Someone in Boston, like... Damn, that was an era. Or you talk about the dude killed his wife? It, yeah, or something like that. No, no, but it was, yeah. The guy killed his wife and left her in the projects and blamed them. Right, and blamed black people. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:42 And Patrice was one of those, well, all day, they were just stopping any black person. Yeah. This is like early in his comedy career where he was leaving, like, leaving, he was one comedian leaving that night. And then after his altercation with police, like he came back, asked the Patrice O'Neill that we'd know. And he said that just living in Boston did that to him. And I want to know, like, was that your experience in living there?
Starting point is 01:04:07 You're not polarized in Boston. Not to the extreme because I'm also not, like, I'm not living that experience as a black man, which has to be a whole other experience. And I have to respect that. You know, like, I don't know. But so not to that extreme. Did I understand, like, racism?
Starting point is 01:04:24 Yeah, was it? Well, not that. I just don't know. But, like, Boston got a different reputation. I understand what you mean, Amir. Like, Boston, as far as a northeast town, it has a different reputation. It has a different reputation. It's, thank you.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Right. Yes, there is new kids on the block, and then there is new addition. But it's black folks there, too, though. Like, is black folks there too? No, we know. We know, but we always thought it was kind of a separation. I mean, but I don't get why it has this reputation. Like, Ben Affleck, Goodwill Hunting.
Starting point is 01:04:50 I don't know. I don't get it. For more perspective, goodwill hunting. Talk to Kyle. I go to Philly and I don't feel like the white people are particularly. not racist. You know, I'm not like, oh, there's so much nicer here.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Wait, you're being serious right now. Yeah. Oh, okay, so, okay, so granted, a lot of our education, and I'm willing to admit that a lot that we learn, we also have to just sort of analyze.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Yes, I've learned a lot about the idea of Boston based on, yeah, based on night-hand information and what I see on TV. All the things. I was just led to believe that, like, that Boston was more akin to, like,
Starting point is 01:05:27 what Bensonhurst, 89, was there's certain places that you don't go. And I was just taught early, you don't go to Boston. It might be wrong now. I was just taught that. I just feel like, yeah, to some degree, is very territorial in that way. And, like, it was southy, like, where the white boys lived. And it was like, you don't really need to be out of the southeast. So there's a certain hour because they're over there drunk.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I mean. Right, right. Big facts, it's late. The boy, they're tumbling out of their drunk. We all know white boys like to fight for no reason. They hit themselves in the heads with bottles and stuff. So it's just like, bro. That's what I like to do after.
Starting point is 01:06:08 You're doing it right now. That's why I get to say. I was going to beat my ass up. It's like, bro, you just don't go over there like that. There's really no business over there. Well, I'm glad you just know that myth. Because literally any black person that I know that says I'm from Boston. inside my head, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:06:27 life was hard. You've seen a lot. Right. Exactly. It's so crazy to me. It's not playing like taps in my head. It isn't, but I just don't understand what people think is happening. And it's like, it's not like,
Starting point is 01:06:37 bro, it's not like you walk in school and it's just like throwing tomatoes. Yo! You're just like, like, nobody. Dude, all I know, black people in Boston's, is guru, uh, the almighty bar. Yeah, shout out of my man, daughter Adams. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:51 But no, there's black Bostonians and like, It's a black Boston. There's a black Boston culture there. It's a city that's been black for a long time. I mean, Malcolm X started his first independent mosque in Boston. Tell us more. Yeah, come on. Malcolm X talks about all the dope shit that he saw in Boston when he went to Roxburgh and Fort Hill and how the black people were living there and black doctors and shit
Starting point is 01:07:13 that was over there. And OK, he had a crib in Boston. Like, what do you talk? People say that shit about. Okay, then. We need it to be a song. We are all going to move to Boston. We're all collecting.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Thank you. We're going to collectively move to Boston. Mine's a changed forever. We're going to do mushrooms in Boston. I'm saying. It would be great. Fuck it. No, I'm glad you dispelled that myth because I was just taught to be afraid of Boston.
Starting point is 01:07:33 But, you know, I also agree that everything I was taught that I have to unlearn. We have to rethink everything. It is a very segregated city. The black people are where the black people are. Like, we live in Sherport, Dorchester, Roxbury, Matapan, like the South Bend a little bit. Like, yes. What was your section? Doortchester.
Starting point is 01:07:51 So, you know what I mean? Like, yeah. and we party where we party because, like, you know, just like a lot of, like, cities. Every city. Yeah, bro. Did you go to Rochbury, 11 p.m. tonight? Yes, especially now it's all gentrified. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Oh, 1988? They ride unicyclists. Depending on where I'm going. Where am I going? What's my purpose? You know what I'm saying? What's my purpose? That's my purpose.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Yeah. You know what I mean? And so if you go to downtown and shit, you ain't going to see a. like that. There are a lot of black clubs, no, because Boston is like white Atlanta, you know? Like, it's where white people come to be. They're white itself, you know what I mean? So,
Starting point is 01:08:33 I don't know. Like, it's, you're not going to get, you know what I mean? You just said a mouthful right there. I'm over here learning. I'm over here learning. I got to, wait, I got to marinate on that for a second. People from Boston say that all the time. Shouts about Murrido and Jason. It's not an original idea. We've all said this.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Like, it is, though. It's like, a last time I'm going to say it. It's like, white Atlanta like I got it now you know what I'm saying it's so no you know when you call something white Atlanta it's different it ain't like every town downtown is like they'd be like yo no hats no timbrelith that shit yeah that type of shit type of rules or whatever if you could get into places it did do this it does that little bullshit so then you know niggas get to a point where it's like I'm just party in my neighborhood or throw parties or go where I know I'm wanted because I'm not I don't want to go spend money and be harassed and shit.
Starting point is 01:09:23 You know? So it is like, yeah, like that. Like, they'll tell you no hats and then let a white boy walk in with a hat in your face. Yes, Boston do shit like that. See, now you tell us it. I don't know. Because I think that's the shit that people have seen and been like, it's crazy. And it's not just a Boston thing.
Starting point is 01:09:40 But that's what I'm just keeping in real. That's true. It's a downtown thing sometimes. It's a white thing. It's a Boston. It's a racism thing. They'll play that type of shit. They'll do that type of shit.
Starting point is 01:09:50 For a lucky strike thing. Maybe we just don't like the Celtics and we just decided to monolith on an entire city. I mean, and we also got to busing late and that will always look crazy on the city. When you see those new edition stories about the busing images and that looks crazy. You know what I mean? So there is context of some people's thoughts. Thank you, Sam. We also got to take his else where it was wild.
Starting point is 01:10:10 But I'm just saying like, I didn't grow up and it wasn't like, nigger. He's throwing bricks at me, my nigga. That wasn't happening to me. Like, I went to school and it was fine. and like, shit was straight. I played with black kids outside. I wish that, like, John Williams' inspirational music. Like, she really so, like, she really so Boston.
Starting point is 01:10:33 I feel bad for her that she had to sell it to that hard. Boston being the place where white people go to be their whitest, that's it. When you put it in the white Atlanta perspective, I said, I got it. They have a freaknik. It's called the Marathon. I'm sorry. Oh. I was good.
Starting point is 01:10:51 You know, this is the wildest episode. That was like a whole new... My ear, but wait. You need more of busrooms. No, but, yeah, let's give it. Someone is going to... All I know, that was great. That was a joke.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Your presence is bringing out a whole level junior. A whole new liar. But you are going to definitely get some white man comment. Oh, dude, damn, I suspect the marathon. Yeah, you're right. It's going to be in the college. This is why I can't stand like here. No, I feel like white people find this type of stuff to just get mad.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Like, when I be looking at like Talib's comments. Oh, why would you ever? Why would you want to do that to yourself? It's fun for me. It's the funniest shit. I love it. I have the best time. In case you're wondering, during the pandemic, during the pandemic, while they were taping their
Starting point is 01:11:42 episode of their podcast, the first thing that most and Dave collectively asked him, Like, why would you want to subject yourself to, like, just going toe to toe to with every comment person? Every, yeah. That's fun. That cannot be good for, I mean. It's making me laugh, bro. Because the people that be fight is like.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I want to see. They really be meeting. They really be. But it also is like they clearly came here to fight you. Looking for a fight. Yeah. They're like big, like, long beard, like, mountain looking white men. Bar fights.
Starting point is 01:12:13 It's like, it's not like they've been listening and this one disappointed them. Right. You know what I mean? They've come here to fight you, son. You phrased it like online fight club. It's almost. No, like online fight club. It's like, you phrased it like, that's one of your favorite pastime.
Starting point is 01:12:31 I was like, oh, let me see what's in. Yeah. It is. One time I seen the comments, it was like in 5,000s. And it's like, oh, I'm not doing it. I might. Five thousand, yo. It is, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Incredible, I will say. You read it to Bill? I've gone down that right a whole couple times. It is. Sure, why not? It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, It's unbelievable. Like, you can't, it's almost like impossible to believe.
Starting point is 01:12:51 It's so wild. And it just starts with one question. Whose man's is this? Yeah. And I, I'd be all the way down. You, uh, yeah. No, I, um, more power to you, Tyler Kuali. I can't read the comments, man.
Starting point is 01:13:12 That's good to know, Amir. Oh, yeah, I do not ever read comments. Yeah, that's a lot to, it's a lot to take it. Neither, me. Oh, you go crazy. Y'all messed up, man. People, it'd be thousands. You read the comments like, let me find out you read the comments.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I'm still a little. I'm sorry, y'all. I still get like 12. So, yeah, I can read my comments. And like one swoop. Just one. Just one swip. I would say, like, on a post for a show, like come to this show, I'll read my comments.
Starting point is 01:13:39 If someone's like, yo, what about D.C.? If I have a day in D.C., I'll be like, yo, I'll be in D.C. this day. I'll gauge on that. But like, if it's just like my face or something, we're good. There's no purpose here. There's no purpose here. They like, you're cute. I'm not getting nothing out of this.
Starting point is 01:13:59 That don't matter. But as many of those that come, it's going to be like, stupid, ugly bitch. And it's like, I got to go through one of those to get to a, we love you. I'm going to just leave the whole shit alone. For my mental, for my mental certainty. No, I feel you. For my mental sanity. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:16 You don't have to. engage with all that shit. Yeah, bro. You get one swipes worth. That's the rule. That's it. One and you're done. That's it, man.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Poor commenters. Y'all be in them things, rolling up them numbers. I'm just on the impression that if things go good, I mean, if I have a really good meal, my first thought isn't, let me go and yelp and rave about it. Yeah. There might be, I might realize, like, my power and, like, I want to elevate a business and be like, yo, man, these, you know, these croissants are off the hook. And, you know, I'll do that.
Starting point is 01:14:47 But I'm just on the impression that if things go good, you know, then no one's going to really comment about it. But if things are bad or people just in a bad mood, that's what Yelp and comments are. But that's what I mean. That's what you're going to receive. So it's like, that's what I don't like, I don't mess with. I'll be fishing for compliment. Speaking of which, I was three seconds away. I had a very rotten experience at one particular amusement park.
Starting point is 01:15:16 I went to a month ago. I love what we talk about. I try to guess. Right. Okay. Right. The clue should be, I don't want to stop the bags. I won't say their name, but I will notice that as an avid local amusement park person,
Starting point is 01:15:37 like when I'm on the road, whatever, I have a day off, I'm going to. You know, this particular amusement park is not plus size friendly. None of them are. No. Disney has finally made the adjustment this year where they now have certain rides I couldn't ride before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not at all. They're literally not.
Starting point is 01:16:02 But Disney made that adjustment. So shut out to Disney. Oh, good. When I'm not talking about Disney, I was going to say, I love Disney. Really? You all supposed to. I need to go to Bootyland. They're all set up.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Bootyland. A win is a win. A win. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
Starting point is 01:16:40 This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports. in entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind
Starting point is 01:17:15 the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar, this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the IHeart Radio app.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Apple Podcasts for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slice of Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars and now I guess also as the co-host of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist
Starting point is 01:18:10 and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, it's beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the the most important. Listen to the Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:19:00 If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives' show. I think it looks like it's going to be interesting. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King,
Starting point is 01:19:23 recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the team everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game. As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this. At the end of the day, when people are at home,
Starting point is 01:19:45 they want entertainment. To hear this and more, Listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. On a recent episode of the podcast, Money and Wealth with John Hope Bryant, I sit down with Tiffany the budgetista Aliche to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money. What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on wealth
Starting point is 01:20:10 to the people when they're no longer here? We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset shifts too many of us were never, ever taught. Financial education is not always about, like, I'm going to get rich. That's great. It's about creating an atmosphere for you to be able to take care of yourself and leave a strong financial legacy for your family.
Starting point is 01:20:37 If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more. Listen to Money and Wealth with John O'Brien from the Black Effect Network on the Aight Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I too went to an amusement part of my family, like a month ago. Right. And, like, it was great, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:20:59 But it was my first time being there in, like, 25 years. Right. So, like, my last time there, I was a senior high school, and now, you know, clearly not. Your dad, those rides are different. Those rides are very different. I did my last last year. I'm done. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I can't go on. I can't go on. I can't go on. I did the roller coaster. I did the roller coaster. I was still with it. You show my boys, I still got it. It don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:19 You won't get on the Holocaust the same? No. But at the end of it, you're like, no. For what? I mean, it was great. How good was the nap after you left the amusement from? It was, it was great because, I mean, it was a day of walking. Like, I think I got like 30,000.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Yo, your steps was off the hook, right? So your steps were like 1,200,000. You calculate your steps. I do it too. I don't know. I do it too. I'm closing rings. I do it too.
Starting point is 01:21:42 You got a close the ring. I'm not mad about it. I just want to acknowledge it. If you're over the age of 40, you better be, Don't have many fucking steps. I will say that the only reason why that trip wasn't a bust. You got to close the rings? No, you always got a closer ring, especially over age 40.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Go ahead, sorry. I'm old old age of 40. No, you're younger. No, I'm not. You're old age of 40? No, she's not. I can tell you I'm not younger, y'all. Wait.
Starting point is 01:22:04 How are you? Can I ask? What in the black queen? I would keep saying that. I don't know. I was like about you are over 40? Yeah, I'm 41. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:16 She's born this scene. She's born this scene. She's worn right before thriller. We could talk about Saturday morning cartoons. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, also.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Okay. Yeah. Anyway, what the fuck happened to the amusement park? Oh, no. The rides, yeah. Like, the rides are not, they're not made for men of husk. No. But, and honestly, for me, it's just one of those things where it's like, I mean, it was
Starting point is 01:22:37 rides I rode, but, like, for me, it was just a thing of like, yo, do I really want them? Do I really want this to be inclusive? Like, do I really want something that I could potentially lose my life on? No. Yeah, I mean. Like, I'm cool with just not being able. Put high up in the air. It's like, bro.
Starting point is 01:22:53 No. Because it's not about, at that point, it's not about inclusivity. It's about fucking physics. It's about safety and physics and like, you should you be up there, bro? Oh, that's what y'all saying. Should you be up there? Yeah. It's just like, bro, it's like if I can't make the whatever standards that y'all made.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Yeah, please tell me so I could go on and live. It's cool, my nigga. I can just go to little teacups or whatever. Thank you, Lord. I can just go get this funnel cake and just do some whatever facts. shit I was going to do. So look. That's why you got you.
Starting point is 01:23:21 So look. Let me just do the fat shit I was going to do here. Like, y'all know why I'm here. Like, fuck the fuck out of here. Wait. This is, all right. As we slowly start to wrap this episode up, I'm realizing that we are six individuals that have issues with not being in control.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Thank you. Right. Not just me. You've been vindicated. That's, thank you. Thank you. Oh, call back, call back, call back. Call back, call back.
Starting point is 01:23:54 That was nice. Look how that happened. Wait. Look what drugs do. I was going to say, and Steve, but Steve is like our resident we hit, and Steve has to say a damn word. I'm too high to talk. Good night.
Starting point is 01:24:13 This actually might be an awesome day because I've not gotten any notes from Brittany Nor Cousin' Jake Wait, do you guys have microphone access in there in that room? No,
Starting point is 01:24:25 they're very happy about it. You want the drugs too. Fucking hey, cousin Jake, you know what you want. Hey, Jake, like you say me something. He can lose control. Like,
Starting point is 01:24:33 for those that don't know, our parents are in the other room. Brittany and Jake and usually I'll get a note like, guys, let's wrap this up, please. Yeah, you're going off the rails. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:45 But we're doing fine. Like, no one from eye hearts going to Sam, are you coming back to She wants us to wrap up? We had so much fun last year. I was going to ask Sam
Starting point is 01:24:55 about music. I would want to if I'm off, I am going to, yes. Okay, well, yeah, we like to have you. What's coming?
Starting point is 01:25:03 I guess, what's next for you? Is it more shows? Is it more TV stuff? Like, girl, what are you looking to? Yeah, I'm about to film my second special
Starting point is 01:25:10 in June in Brooklyn at Brooklyn Steel. Nice. June 17th. I'm super excited. Your manifestation must be high Because you seem like you get what you want You know what
Starting point is 01:25:24 I just want to keep being able to do Comedy and be funny And create things And as long as that like keeps coming to me I think I'll be okay You know So I'm just excited about shit like that Just like
Starting point is 01:25:37 Got a couple shows I'm working on Two different networks Are you allowed to mention the shows? They really don't like working names in progress But I don't think so Okay Great adventure Right play land.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Got it. Yeah. And I'm just, you know, trying to sleep more and get my mind and body and stuff, right? And, you know, just trying to connect with that part of myself more because I feel like I was running. You know, trying to lay down so much groundwork and shit. And I'm like, you got a little breathing room. You got to also take care of yourself. Just trying to find that balance, you know, that work-life balance and shit.
Starting point is 01:26:12 And I'm just, you know, doing what I do. That's all you can do. And we appreciate that. Wait, before I wrap up, what was your first musical memory? There we go. I've been one. I do like that. That's usually our first question, Sam.
Starting point is 01:26:33 That's what he does. Oh, I can't tell you how much I missed that one. Wait, hold on. Can you just play mine since we're here? What do you got to say something random, bro? I like cheese. No, where did your parents just come from? Where did your parents just come from?
Starting point is 01:26:49 Oh, Jamaica. Great. That damn Fonte boy. This is a good time. My favorite part, here we go. Yes, that mother is Jamaica. Oh, wow. That's true.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Wow, you just fadered it. Shit. Yes, a lot's happened. May you got stems? Right. You see, Sam, the reason we look so excited is because Amir hasn't played these things that Fonte created five years ago in an environment. three years.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Yes. But Fonte made some genius. I'm a high. Anyway. You guys are fucked. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, Steve and I have to report back to work before we get in trouble. What are we doing today at Clintz?
Starting point is 01:27:38 Clearwater Revival. Yeah, John Fogarty. Oh, John Fogarton. This is awesome. Thank you. Sam. I appreciate you. For the drugs.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Thank you so much. This was really nice. Thank you. I appreciate it. All right. Well, on behalf of the team, Straight Lace Bill. That.
Starting point is 01:27:53 You, the way that Steve. Oh, come on, man. Oh, let's thank Fonte. Wait, wait, wait. We forgot to thank Fonte and Sam because this is the reason that you came. Because Fonte, well, I mean, I always wanted to hear it. But, yes, Fonte definitely made it happen. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Oh, man. Thanks Fonte. And Laya and Sugar Steve and Mom and Dad, Britt and Jake. Wait, wait, Jake can't be dad and cousin Jake at the same time. I think Cousin Jake works. Yeah, yeah. Cousin Jake. Cousin'all.
Starting point is 01:28:23 All right, y'all. We'll see. A little light skin to be your father. Yeah. We'll see you next time. Jake, he's a Creole cousin. Goodbye, people. See you next week.
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