The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: SiR

Episode Date: May 1, 2024

SiR joins Questlove Supreme to share a story of tenacity, self-growth, and personal discovery. The Inglewood, California singer details his years in the wing, working with others (including Jill Scott) as an engineer, writer, and producer. However, as SiR asserted his self-worth, he soon became an in-demand artist who eventually found a lasting home at TDE. Get to know an artist whose HEAVY story matches the title of his new album. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I assume that a brand new bill is on the streets right now. Oh, he's in the water. Okay. No, he's on vacation with the girls. He's on vacation. He's on vacation? He's on vacation? He's on vacation?

They're on a boat somewhere. They're on a car. Damn. Okay. He would say I'm with a bunch of all the girls, though, so, you know, it's kind of vacation. That's what Ben was in. Quality time. That's what's up. We got Fonticolo. You're in North Carolina, I assume?

Yeah, yeah, man. What is that artwork that's on the left side, your left side? I always wonder that when you're interviewing from this place. What is that? We did, a artist did that illustration for us. It was like a card. Okay. It's one on top.

You want me on top. You want to Bob like a playing card. And, yes, I just framed it. I put in my studio. Okay. That's what's up. Laya? Yeah. How are you doing?

We are good. I'm sorry, y'all, for giving you all this. After looking at Sir's album cover, I realize I need to put my workout clothes on every day and act like I'm a workout. So that's what I'm going to do after this is done. You're inspirational. Come on, man. Come on. Get your physical together.

In your post-pandemic physical together. We all here. hear you loud and clear, but, you know, someone's coming up, you know, give my Sarah on. Steve, how's it going? Good morning, everybody. Good afternoon. Yeah. How's the network doing? I'm not sure if it exists anymore.

No more network? Oh, wow. I don't know. There was some tumultuous season seven, now we're in season eight. I'm not really sure who's in charge. And, you know, we're moving forward. Ah, damn. You got mutinied out of your own network? Kind of. Damn, Steve. It's okay.

We got to do a network episode. Yeah, you're right. You still got my Quest of Supreme Family, though. So basically, I will say that this particular episode, this is one of those practice what you preach moments. Because I think around October of last year, I kind of put a note out to the producers of the show, Laya, cousin Jake, Brittany,

that, you know, I didn't want to get too, comfortable. Like when you get way too comfortable in your comfort zone, that could be to an easy downfall. And I was noticing another podcast that sort of stayed in their comfort zone. And they had a really great run. And now they're kind of running out of ideas because they're not pivoting and getting out of that comfort place they like. And of course, when you come into Questleaf Supreme, nine times out of ten, we're talking to veterans that have put like, you know, 20, 30, 40, 50 years in the game. And, you know, it's always fun and very easy to go back and sort of marvel on someone's legacy. I gave a note that I really, especially after the Dave Matthews episode,

that I wanted to talk to newer artists, younger artists that maybe I wasn't that familiar with like the back of my hand. You know, it's not like us doing a Narder Michael Walden episode or us doing a Quincy Jones episode or, you know, something of that level. And so, wait, we did a Quincy Jones episode? Oh, believe it or not, Steve. Don't talk about it. We did a Quincy Jones episode, believe it or not. Actually, Laia can tell us about it, me.

Oh, God, yes. We've done a Quincy Jones episode, so anyway. That said, I kind of said starting in 2024, I want to switch it up a little bit and start connecting with tomorrow's legends. You know, people kind of 10 years, maybe 15 years in the game, younger than your 30, your 40-year-old veterans that will be tomorrow's legends. I think it's rather apropos that our guest today is sort of running on an ongoing theme that we've been having with a lot of artists that we've been speaking to in that what their

lives were before the pandemic has sort of pivoted and moved into another direction. And basically, this artist, of course, has Grammy recognition. he has a new album entitled Heavy, sort of making the rounds as we speak, getting a lot of accolades, and along with his collaborations and his previous records. I'm kind of liking this new place that artists are in right now in terms of putting their heart out there

and showing their vulnerability and showing their journey, which is needed. So pretty much the ongoing theme to me is rather apropos and our guest is no exception to it. Please welcome to Questlove Supreme. Sir. Sir. What up?

What about you doing? Where are you talking to us from this morning? 84th. I'm over here in Englewood, man. You're still in Englewood. Yay. Of course, of course. Yeah, I can't leave, man.

The neighborhood actually got better since they did the stadium. And they're working on Clipper Stadium over here. If you know anything about the city, it's been a lot of changes over here. This gentrification thing is real over here. It's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing. For somebody that still lives in the city,

people that held onto their houses and didn't stop to sell and move and stuff like that, they're up right now. The house I'm in is up right now. So I know everybody around me is happy. It's something special about L.A. people. They really hold on to their homes in South L.A. I live in L.M.R. So I'm just saying, yeah, these people hold on to their homes.

You know, for sure, if they know any better. Because the property value is just going to keep going up. The center city of Los Angeles, including like Englewood and Cowell. and the inner city is flourishing. You know what I mean? And the people that own homes have been there 30, 40 years. So my neighborhood is the same people. I run into the same people I grew up with.

They still live in their mama house. And thank God, Amir is funny because the landlords around here are old and black, too. So they just as discriminatory. So when I got my place, he definitely looked me up and down like, okay, you fit. Like, baby. Yeah. That's weird. I went back to my old neighborhood, my old house that you remember, Laya, in South Philly.

St. Albans? Yeah, sad to say that I'm the last owner of pretty much of that block. And sad to say, I'm the last black owner. Like, it was a black neighborhood when I moved in. And now I didn't recognize that shit. I felt like Marty McFly walking through 1950, like, we got a Starbucks on the corner. That's hilarious. It's crazy because for reference, sir, you should know that, like, Philadelphia is probably in stage eight,

gentrification of it is a one to ten i always say like dc and harlem are in stage 15 past 10 but la is probably in a five or six so i know you're saying what you're saying yeah i do y'all just got the you just got the stadium we just get in the train stations it's you know they're jogging they're jogging they're jogging wait so you're saying to me because the thing was i went to that stadium on not opening night but like opening month now the stadium beautiful where I park though that you park at the forum probably trying to get you over the stove I you know that was a couple years ago I hope it's gotten better so yeah you know

it wasn't it hasn't it was a little weird so sir said nah no no it's still a hectic now mind you I'm not I'm not a I'm not a football fan so I don't care about the stadium It's not my thing, you know what I mean? But it's done a lot for the city, you know what I mean? And having met the mayor and talked to him about it and seen, you know, all of the businesses that have come up and, you know, it kind of, it makes you look at it differently. You know, I definitely was thinking about protecting, you know, the people that were getting displaced because people got displaced. You know, we ain't going to talk about that, but, you know, they tore down homes and stuff like that to move things in for the Clippers Stadium. And, you know, that was a big thing.

But once you start to see the benefit, you kind of look at it like, okay, this can work, you know, but it's all about the community coming together. And I, from my perspective, I don't see Englewood ever being completely gentrified. You know what I mean? I see it as it might end up being a melting pot, which it already kind of is. There's a huge Asian community out here. There's a huge community of Samoans. There's a huge, you know, Mexican community as well as all the black folk out here. So, you know what I mean?

You're going to have to kick out a whole bunch of different people. before you get to straight up just gentrification, you know. And I don't think, I don't think we're on that route. I dig it there. Were you born in Inglewood? Inglewood adjacent. We're Los Angeles, baby. So me and my family were all born in like South Central.

But my dad was born in Englewood. Okay. And the house that we grew up in, my grandmother bought in 1964. So we had been in the city my whole life. But, no, I was born in a sheet. I think I was born a Killer King. I know my mom was. Okay.

Killer King, is that what you said? Killer King is the hospital in L.A. It's famous. What is it known for people that aren't... It's in the hood. So when you get shot, they take you to Kill a King and nobody survives the Killer King. Like Brady.

Where a shady? You were going to say that. Okay. Everybody said he got one. You're going to go at Killer King. You're telling them, take me anywhere but they... In Philadelphia, that would be Mizzacordia Hospital.

I get it. I got you. That makes sense. We called it Miserable Codia, Cordia. Yeah, it makes this. Yeah. I'll ask you what I ask all of our guests. Do you remember what your first musical memory was in life?

Great question. Okay. I would have a piano roll on me because I don't have perfect pitch. But let's just give an example. My mother would be at the piano and she'd be like, this is sea if you have your fingers here you're hitting the note

if you go down here you are flat if you go up as you are strong but you know what I mean that's my first musical memory is my mother teaching us how to sing or trying to teach us how to sing and my first

musical performance I was five years old in front of the church and we sang Oh Holy Night and so I you know I grew up, I grew up in a house where music was everything. You know, I don't remember my life. I don't remember a time of my life where somebody wasn't creating or somebody

wasn't performing. And, you know, I'm blessed to be in a musical family. Your mom, she was a singer and I read she sang for Steve, not Stevie, uh, Shaka and Michael Jackson, like she did backs for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Miss Jackie? Miss Jackie. Yeah.

And prayers up for my mom, man. She was in a car accident a couple days ago. So she's got surgery today at 12. And we're just prayerful, man. She fractured her second vertebrae. And it's been, you know, this last couple of days been really tough on us. But she's doing good.

She's in good spirits. But she's a fighter. Yeah. Raise up. How long was she singing? She grew up in a church, too. Her grandfather was a pastor. Her mother's singer in a church.

You know what I mean? Her and her brothers were raised in the church. So my mom doesn't know anything but music. She started playing piano when she was six years old. And my uncle Andrew started playing bass when he was 17 and never looked back him. You guys know Andrew Boucher. If you know anything about gospel music, you better know Andrew Boucher. He's the God.

Yes, yes. Yeah, the godfather of bass, you know. And my mother was blessed to have a brother like Andrew. I can say their dynamic kind of creates the dynamic that you see between me and my brother, D. Smoke, and my brother Davian. They help each other when they can. but they're individuals and they're very powerful on their own. So, you know, it was always a, you know, just a joy to watch my mother work, you know, being the minister of music at church, you know, she was out there every Sunday.

Well, let's be honest. She was there Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, Sunday. Every day? Yeah, Bible study, choir rehearsal, Friday service, Sunday service. You know what I mean? My mom was a workforce, you know. And still to this day, we was with her yesterday. And the only thing she was worried about, you know, when they're talking about surgery, she's like, can I play the piano?

You know what I mean? Like, I don't care about nothing else. Right. I need to play the piano. You know what I mean? So that's the type of mother I had. Were you seven day of Venice or? Oh, no, no.

We're now in denomination. Okay. Oh, damn. Okay. It was just real Christians that did the thing. Like, you know, it's just different church days. Well, often when I hear every day, usually it's seven day of Venice. But, and it's weird, non-denominational people always thought were the more lenient, not too super strict on things that are normally, you know, the law.

Right. Right. Okay. So non-denominational. Do you remember, like, your first creative project? Like, what was the first thing that you remember doing creatively? Or was singing in that church, your first? Okay.

So when I was younger, my mom made us do music. and as a kid I didn't appreciate it, I didn't understand it. I shunned away from it. I didn't like it. So when I was about 14, 15, we sat down and had a conversation about what I wanted. And I was like, I want to play sports. So I stopped doing music. Didn't do music 10 years.

I didn't even come into the game until I was like 23, 24. My brothers were writing. 24? Something like that. Yeah, I was 24, 25, something like that. Yeah, I didn't write my first song until I was 26. Wow. Yeah.

If you don't let me ask you, how old are you right now? 37. Wait, when? I got to know, I'm here. Well, I'm sorry. I think when you're my age, 53, hello. But everyone to me is just 19. Yeah, we got to work on that. Yeah. You thought you talked to a kid, man.

I got kids. Yeah, man, this young kid. Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, don't my knowledge on this young boy. Oh, man. Okay, so it's just a hands up. You know, I started off my, because I'm the type of person I am, my thing is knowledge. When I like something, I got to know how to do it right.

You know what I mean? So I went to school. I went to Los Angeles Film School. That was my first step when I started writing songs. I was like, oh, I stuck. Let me figure out what's going on. I was terrible at it. You know what I mean?

And my brother was kind enough to show me that there was potential behind it. But I was like, nah, this don't sound like what these niggins is doing. So I went to the L.A. film school, to, to, years of my life and really focused in on trying to just become a better musician and engineer. So I'm a recording engineer by trade. That was my first, you know, thing. And from there, I started to just develop my sound and my songwriting and stuff like that. And this is all while I was just working as an engineer.

My first big gig was working for Tyrese, which, yeah, that was interesting. Yeah, I like that place. And that's course, love, Supreme. I'll see you guys next week. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me,

Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.

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It's Will Ferrell. Woo. Woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day. And I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through.

And I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you. Which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.

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On our new podcast, the away end, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.

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of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Auer Kohn and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Shout out to Tyrese. It taught me a lot about people, taught me a lot about the music industry, taught me a lot about independence and how much I wanted it. At the time, like, I'm showing up the sessions. I'm his head engineer in the house.

I got six people working for me. You know, and I'm just watching all these other songwriters come in and try to bless him. At the time, I was writing songs and I had found a little confidence, but I wouldn't have said that because it was my job, my day job. So I wasn't even trying to like get in the mix. But I played a couple of records for one of the other phone writers one day and they were like looking to me crazy. You know what I mean? We were at a camp for his last project called the Black Rose album. That was a good album.

Yeah, yeah. And my brother Davion was one of the songwriters. I got him in to write songs for Tyrese. and he just wasn't having it. He was like, fuck that. You know what I mean? You're going to play some of these fucking songs for Tyrese. So they had this big meeting where everybody would sit down at the end of the

week and play two, three records or something like that. And I had like a batch of like five ready. And I was the last person to play records. Everybody played records. Like, Darryl got records? I come in, I play my songs. And everybody lost their shit. It was like a big, this was probably the biggest music moment for me at today at the time.

But Tyrese runs up gives me a big. hug, I didn't know, oh my gosh, I didn't know I had this talent underneath my wing. You know, I just, you know what I mean? And like two weeks ago back. Yeah, you know, I just, there's so much going on, man. God is moving in his phone. Yeah, people. Hey, look, look, yeah, can't nobody do Tyreece like me.

I'll tell you, but. Did you make Black Row? Did you get on the record? Yeah, yeah, I got a couple songs on there. I can't tell you the names of them because I, forgot, I don't remember, but I definitely made the project for sure. But, you know, having that big moment, this is a lesson for a lot of musicians, just because people look like they fucking with you or they look like they rock and don't mean they got

your best interest at heart. You know what I mean? Even after that incident, you know, I kept working for Tyrese. He just, our relationship didn't like progress. It seemed like he was trying to like, he's trying to sandbag me, man. He wasn't trying to let me shine. He wasn't trying to put me out there to where he wanted me to be his engineer. And there was a day where Jennifer Hudson came to the house.

I don't know if she remembers this, but, you know, she came in and meet him. And I let her in the house. You know, I'm like, hey, she, you know, knows narrative nonchalant. And he, you know, was introducing her to everybody in the house and just didn't even say my first name, bro. Like, it was a, this one, I don't know if Tyrese knows this story or remembers this, but couldn't say my name to Jennifer Hudson. Jennifer Hudson did look me in the eye. And I took that very personally. I quit that day.

I walked in a room. It was like 10 niggas in that room. writers, producers, Jennifer Hussinson, right there, Eric Bellinger was there. I forget who else was there, but oh, Tydala time was there, I think, but I walked in there. I was like, hey, Tyrese, hey, pay me for the day, bro, I quit in front of everybody. I was like, what, what do you mean? Hey, hey, hold on, y'all. Let me go out of him and talk to me outside. And there was no convincing me of that. And I think after that, I probably was signed to PDE,

like after like six months or something like that. Or I, you know, I was already like popping. I put my own project out. Woodin'Hoodoo was the first thing we dropped in seven Sundays. And it was over after that. And I've never looked back, you know what I mean? And I thank Tyrese for that experience because it taught me a lot about how to treat people, you know, first or four months.

I want to ask you about your first, about seven Sundays and the label you put that out on Fresh Selects. Talk about just that period in your life, man. I love that record. I played it, you know, all the time. Not, man, I just wanted to talk about that time in your life. Man, shit. I was broken homeless.

I just put Tyreef, and I didn't know what I was going to do with my life. I was trying to figure things out. And we had just put out this tape that had like 21 songs. It was called Wooden Voodoo. It's my first tape if anybody really looks for it. It's on like Feltclaw. Is it on YouTube? It's on what again?

How about it? Wooden Voodoo. Wooden Voodoo? It's got some stuff on there. But Kenny heard it. Kenny Fresh from Fresh Select heard it. And he contacted me and was like, I want to put this project out. I was like, okay, I'm already working on something.

And we started the playlist for Seven Sundays. And Seven Sundays is what introduced me to top and got me. in the room with TDE. So I look at that time as like this, that was probably like the highlight of my career because it, it opened so many doors for me. And I did that all by myself. It was just me and Kenny. And he really didn't even do anything. He just suggested like, like this song. I like that song. I did the mix. I did the master. I cut the vocal. You know what I mean? And yes, I said, I did the master myself. Like I was engineering back then. I don't do that shit no more. I got help. But I engineered that whole. Wait, even now as, as an artist, you

I mean, you're an engineer, so you would know how you want the song to sound. Yes, yes. Oh, yeah. I mean, I still cut my own vocal. I can't let go of those reins. Like, I've hired engineers. I've sat down. But imagine this.

You're in the booth, guys in the chair, and you cut a vocal, but you just want him to nudge it. You have to say, I need you to nudge this to the left. Now, imagine I'm sitting in the chair. I cut the vocal. I need to nudge it. I can nudge it. I nudged it. You know what I mean?

And that's it. That's the whole thing. Steve, no, I'm playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Amir is much more, for people who don't realize, he's much more of an engineer than people know. Oh, really? He mixes more than I do most of the time.

I mean, I'm recording because he's, you know, playing and producing a lot of times. But when it comes time to do rough mixes and certainly in the final mix stage, Amir has got his hands on the dial since I met him. since Electric Lady in 96, he's been, he gets right on the board. It's easier and quicker than to try and explain what you want. If you just know the basics, you know,

and Amir loves plug-ins. So he just loves playing around with toys, essentially. But yeah, I'm sure there's a lot. I mean, DeAngelo was recording his own vocals. Yeah. And things like that. But, yeah, it's certainly helpful as an artist to know how to engineer it. I would think from a singing standpoint, which is such a vulnerable thing to do,

are you the type of singer that needs pretty much your space? Like, are you the singer that can turn it on if five people were in the room watching you, the engineer, your boys, your family in there watching you, or is it like everyone get out the room, engineer too? I could do this myself. No, no, no, I'm concerned. You go watch. Especially with this out.

especially with this album? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, well, this album was different. I was high most of the time. So that wasn't nobody around. Okay. No, no, you can stay in the room. I don't mind people being around. Just shut the fuck up. I got to cut the vocals. Be quiet. I don't want to hear you on my track.

But, you know, these last few years, I honestly don't know how these songs came. I can't explain it. I don't even remember most of these sessions. I don't remember a lot because I was just related. You know, a lot of people have heard the story a million times about me going to rehab and all that, blah, blah, blah. You know, I'll beat that story into the ground. So if we can just swing by this real quick, you know what I feel you. I'm sober.

It's been a year and five months. Yay. You know what I mean? I found sobriety my way. You know what I mean? I still smoke a little weed every once in a while. I was going to ask you. I was going to thank you for saying this.

Thank you. Yeah. You're going to say space. No, sobriety is different for everybody. You know what I mean? Everybody has, if you're an addict like I was, you have a DOC. Now, your DOC, your drug of choice is your drug of choice. That doesn't mean that everything will affect you like that will, but you got to stay away from that thing.

And, you know, I found my way through depression because, you know, people don't just do drugs. There are root issues to, you know, there's reasoning behind it. And I had root issues that I had to find. So therapy, rehab, family, everything that, you know, all of the love I had helped me kind figure out what was going on and it placed me back in a position where I could fight for my life, you know. I've been somewhat transparent about my journey. I'm now like three years removed from the path I'm on now, but I can definitely acknowledge that year one of this new paradigm shift quest love, the first seven months, I was actively subconsciously and consciously trying to

sabotage it because it was just a very fearful place to be in. Could you talk about your experience behind that? Yeah, of course. Yeah, and I like what you said about, you know, there being a fear of success because I think, like, there was never down in my mind that I would be good at music. You know what I mean? But there was, I'm a married man.

I've been married 15 years, been with my wife at 20. And, you know, the type of music I make and the artist that everyone wanted me to be, me being a married man, those two things didn't mix. So, you know, there was always this push and pull of, you know what I mean, I want to succeed, but, you know, I don't know what it's going to look like. You know what I mean? And as I started to progress in my career, I started to notice that, you know, people didn't

give a fuck about my marriage, you know what I mean? And that made it very hard for me to enjoy my career, you know what I mean, and enjoy the successes of my music. And then on top of that, the attention that you get when you're in the position we're in makes it very hard for you to be, you know, to see things how everyone else sees it. Let's say it like that. You know what I mean? It's use your view on, you know, relationships and people. And it really kind of like set me back because I didn't go about it the right way. You know what I mean? I wasn't doing a good job of just taking care of myself first. You know what I mean? I was so concerned with what everybody thought about me and what everybody wanted me to be as an artist and stuff like that.

And I was people pleasing and things like that. And then I was just neglecting my relationship with my wife. You know what I mean? For this image of sir that I thought I needed to be. And then I got sick of him and, you know, it had already caused problems at home, didn't want to go back to who he was and found this middle place of like, I'm just going to silently like self-medicate. You know what I mean? Because I'm depressed. My home life is messed up. up stirring who I want to be, but niggas love him. They love that guy. You know what I mean?

And I just, you know, I started to self-medicate and, you know, didn't tell anybody until it was too late. And once I decided that it was time to tell people, the pandemic happened. It's all piled on. You know, but, you know, as someone that, you know, doesn't give a fuck about like fame or like, I don't do this for the accolades.

I actually like love music. It's very hard to appreciate artists. and everything it comes with when, you know what I mean, people don't like respect it or respect you. They don't respect your humanity when they see you as an artist, you know what I mean? And I had to learn that the hard way. I was just going to ask, what else did you have outside of rehab coming out of COVID? You also, it sounds like you also have people around you that you may have had to shuffle a little bit, change.

Oh, for sure, for sure, for sure. I got friends I can't see. You know what I mean? My family was very hands-on in my health and my health. my recovery, you know what I mean? So me and my family, we were already tight-knit, but this kind of just brought us closer together. But yeah, I definitely like, my whole circle is different.

I've got, like, two friends that I call, you know what I mean? For the most part, I speak to my mother, my father, and my brothers and try to keep it like that. We haven't talked about your dad. My dad, he's a, yeah, you haven't talked about it. My dad is a funny guy. His name is Ron. And he's going to be happy that I said his name on the interview. Oh, it is.

Yes, Ronald. Yeah, my dad is the oldest of like six kids. He's one of the most gentle people you'll ever meet in your life. And he don't sing. He don't do music, but he loves my mama. He loves my mama. You know what I mean? Sir, talk about growing up in that, like being a married man and growing up and having that.

Because a lot of people don't. Oh, I had a great example. Now, mind you, my father, when I was growing up, he spent some time. 10. He had two strikes before I was, you know, thought of. So when I was, when I was six, he got out of jail and never looked back, you know, and took care of his family. And I've seen him struggle so hard. You know what I mean? You know, I have two strikes in the 90s. It wasn't too much work for him. He, you know, he was a limo driver. He was a chaplain. He's done so many different things just to provide for us and give us opportunities to be great. And we love him to death, man. And he's still, you know, just, hands on in my life and you know I talk to him all the time but I think he's a funny guy because my dad's getting old like he's an old man now what is old sir oh my god she's an old but what's even more what's even more funny is my brothers are turning into old men too me and me and me and me and my brothers we wake up in the morning with neck pains and all count 37 you know I ain't

no spring chicken man are you the youngest of you at three yeah yeah wait how was dee smoke he 38 about to be 39 oh y'all was youngans, man. And your parents was moving fast. See, this explains it, because again, I'm thinking like, damn, man, for a 24-year-old, this guy got a lot of wisdom under his belt. Now, now I get it. I get it now.

A win is a win. A win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clever Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.

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We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands.

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advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.

If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat, just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to thanks, Dad, on the IHeartRadio app,

Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, It's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East-West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar, this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode.

Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slice of Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault in Our Stars, and now I guess also is the co-host

of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old.

I watched every game, and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international All leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer... Football is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.

Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, it's beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As far as your pin game is concerned, how hard is it to use your music to express what you're feeling inside? I wouldn't say it's difficult. It just hurts when I do it.

This is like a superpower I've developed over years of trial and error. just pulling from emotional places. You know, I'm really good at it. And, you know, the poetry comes from pain. So it's kind of a second nature thing for me now, man. And like right now I'm sitting in my house. I haven't written a song in like probably three, four months. I'm like an out of practice musician, it feels like.

But I know as soon as I sit down to do it, I know my process. I know what I want out of these songs. If I hear the music and it's there, the songs damn near already written at this point. You know what I mean? But that comes from years of, working i put so much time in that people don't see you know what i mean with songwriting writing

for other artists writing for myself i got a pile of probably 500 songs that ain't never going to see the light of day but i go back and listen to them and examine and pick them apart just to you know try to find too my craft you know um but i'm proud that people like know me as like a songwriter like they they actually like the lyrics and shit like that because i you know i don't put you know i I don't want to like ever, ever, you know, assume that people listen to my shit and, and they love it. You know, they love what I got to say. You know what I mean?

Frashing down. That's my record, man. Yeah. Yeah. I'm blessed to be in a position I'm in. Like, a lot of people just, they try to say cool shit. You know what I mean? I'm trying, I'm trying to dig so deep in that it's relatable to the outer world.

You know what I mean? I think that's my secret. When you sit down to the right, are you? like a lyrics got first or melody got first? It depends. Yeah. It all depends. You know, people that try to say they're one or the other,

don't, to me, I ain't doing it right. You know what I mean? Because, you know, this is, this is, I don't know, it's like basketball. In a basketball game, you're dribbling down the court. You're not going to shoot the same shot every time. You know what I mean? You got to have some kind of, you know,

knowledge of where you're at and what, you know, what the court is dictated. So my songwriting is dictated by the court that, I'm standing on. When it comes to your songs, is it more of your writing songs and artists or A&R are picking the songs or is it also too,

your writing songs for certain people? No, I just write now. I don't write for anybody. I have a pile. And, you know, even when I was writing for other people, I never really wrote for them.

I didn't, like, sit down like, okay, I need the Beyonce song. I hate them, niggins. That shit's trash. Let me write a song for Beyonce. Oh, I'm about to get up, I'm about to get up face me on a Beyonce record. No, no.

I just write music, you know what I mean? Just write a great song. No, I came from that. I came from, like, we were what works first. People don't know I was in, and we were writing songs for other people. My brothers had some big placements. They had usher placements and like Jaheen placements back in the day. And that's what really like sold me on becoming like a musician.

So my first, like, before I wrote my own projects, we were working on like writing for other people. And I was in a songwriting camp of six motherfuckers. So, you know, that taught me a lot about who I wanted to be as a writer. Can you explain to me what those, I always hear about those types of camps, especially from artists that come on this show. Never been a part of those camps because apparently I'm doing it wrong. No, you're doing it right, brother. I don't know, but what are camps like?

Because it's also like, is it every man for himself? Is it like, you're out of blood? Like, I got to get a placement on this record. It's pretty cutthroat at certain points. But, I mean, I'm so displaced from it. I haven't been in a camp 10 years, man. So I don't know. I don't know what they like nowadays.

But when I was doing it, it was tough. It was tough. So what we used to do because we all loved each other and everyone wanted to succeed is we break songs down into pieces. That's how my, that's how woodworks did it. Somebody got the first verse. We're writing a hook together. Somebody got the second verse.

Somebody get a bridge. You know what I mean? East Bill. Okay. Yeah. And that was, I mean, that didn't always work. But that was the game plan. That's how we went into the situations.

And then if you're going into a writing camp where it's like a whole bunch of individuals, writers that are coming in, like, okay, let's say Tyrese sets up a camp where he has producers to writers and come. That is very cutthroat because everyone's writing by themselves on their own little setup to bring to play to Tyrese so that he can choose what records he's going to cut. You know what I mean? And that was a different environment. I can say that the songwriters that I've come across, they're all very competitive.

But, you know, there is a community of like, I'm going to help you out. You know, it was never so cutthroat that work wasn't getting done. I can only imagine that, you know, if it's coming from your insides and it's your song, it's like your child. So I wonder like, all right, well, I got a first verse. You know, and I do believe in that whole thing of how inspiration hits you that, you know, you have to be in the right environment, acquired him. I mean, some people need to be in a chaotic environment. I know people that feel like they need to be in arguments with their girlfriend or, you know, whatever floats their boat to have the ideas come. Quincy Jones on the episode that will never come out, says that all of his ideas come at one in the morning, that sort of thing.

But I don't know. I can't imagine like, okay, having half a song and just in the name of time, like, all right, well, you take it over. Now it's your child. and we're co-parents. Like, I just never understood that process. Like, I always felt like once the song comes out of you, you should see it through soup to nuts. But, you know, I don't know.

Like, do you recommend writers camps or for you, it's better when it's just coming from you isolated alone? Well, as an artist, I don't recommend writing camps, but I do recommend writing with other writers. So, like, for example, there's an artist named Jaze. that is she's a singer-songwriter and she's very popular um i brought her in to help me write uh the song that i have with tie dollar sign on on the album and i did it because you know when creating albums i feel like you need to have different like let's just use the word vibes i hate the

word but let's you you got to you got to have different different this is how i know you're not 20 all right go yeah exactly you got to have different there has to be some type of variety, you know, to the sound, in my opinion, to make a great project, you know, it's really hard to pull off when it's just you in your head. You know what I mean? I feel like I've, I've learned to let people in because people, you know, can improve something for you, you know, can make something better by, you know, looking at it from their perspective, you know, and I can learn a lot still. I, you know, and I definitely don't think. I know everything. So having helped, you know what I mean, to get you through your own thoughts isn't a bad thing. It just depends on how you handle it. You know, and I think I've had years of trial and error with working with other artists. So I know what I like immediately.

It'll take 10 minutes for me to decide if we actually don't do the session. You know what I mean? Like if we're sitting down and, you know, once I'm locked in with somebody, it's going to go smoothly. But this is all trial and error. And I feel like I've learned for me, I need help. And my music sounds better when I have the right type of help. So it's not just about having a whole bunch of songwriters people come in. It's about having the right type.

Right people. Yeah. Of all the storied clicks in contemporary music, you know, start with native tongues and then start with Wu-Tang and then start with death row. TDE, to me, is, well, one, one of the most ubiquitous, but also on the other side of that coin, one of the most mysterious organizations

that I know of but don't know Jack about. Are we? Yeah. All right, look, when you join this organization, number one, I'm going to be impression that if you join TDE, then, yeah, like, Cizza and Isaiah and Schoolboy and Absol and Doshi and, like, the whole click. are all family,

like working together on each other's projects and that sort of thing. But like what is it? Like, because I know nothing about, about Anthony and. It is, it is, it is, we were just talking about the songwriting camps. It is the songwriting camps at the highest level.

So everybody, everybody is out for blood. We are all hungry. We are all independent. We help each other out where we can, but we all got careers to take care of. Now, mind you, we're family, you know what I mean? And we're very tight.

We're very close-knit. You know what I mean? But, man, TD, they're still a learning curve for me. You know what I mean? All right, so let's take away the music industry. Like, them is bluds, these gang members, you know what I mean? And we're from LA. So I got a first, just respect that.

You know what I mean? Like at any given time, she can go sour and, you know, all hell could break loose on this side. You know, so I just had to learn who I was dealing with and learned that, you know, respect is earned, you know what I mean, before it's given in this circle. And we don't tolerate disrespect. We don't tolerate ignorance and stuff like that. Top is like he's hardcore, man.

And as hardcore as he is, he's also very gentle and very loving. He's a father of like nine kids. He's got a lot of children. Yeah, top is an interesting dude, man. What? And the Charlie Mac. But as far as TD egos, I will say this. I've never been in a place where I'm that motivated to stand out in my life.

There's so many great things happening. It just makes me want to work so much harder to be the best version of myself. Scissors on top of the planet. Motherfucking, don't she scares me. Don't you scares me. Oh, my God. Yes. Yeah, if you're not familiar, go check out.

That's a Florida girl. she she's like you can't tell me nothing I know music and I know what I like I know beyond what I like what is proper like I know I know when it when it hits when it smacks and when when the artist behind it knows how to make it smack this bitch yeah I didn't even know she was with y'all I'm like what and she with y'all that's great look look I met I met dochi uh uh like uh I guess a couple weeks before they announced she was signing TD when they first came she came in so nice and played me some records. She played me the craziest records. What's the song that she has out? You probably won't know anyway, but she played me something that I was like, I was floored.

Flaught. This is one of the most talented women in the game right now. And I know Sizz of, you know, scissors and deserves everything that's going on, but a Dochi is, you could ask this about Dotsie. She's going to say the same thing. I'm scared of that girl, you know, but that's the environment that TDE creates. It creates monsters. It creates people that are so hungry to cheat. Don't get fuck what y'all got going on. It's me. It's this. It's, it's, it's T.E or it's nothing else. You know what I mean? And it's always

going to be that. As an avid watcher of King of the Hill, can you please explain your logic behind John Redcorn? We can talk about King of the Hill all day, okay? Let go on my purse. I don't know you. Okay. Oh, John Redcorn. He was the indigenous dude on King of the Hill.

Yes, that was married to the blonde chick. And he said. Right, right. Yeah, no. John Redcorn was not married. John Redcorn was a woman motherfucker. Right, right. He was the dude on the side.

Dale Gribble is blinding the back and could not see what was going on. He was dirty Macon. Now, there was a boy on the show. His name was Joseph. Joseph was the Dale Gribble's son. Yes. But we all know the truth behind that whole story. Now, now, mind me and my wife, like, we, we, oh my gosh, we, we, oh my gosh, we

and King of Hill into the ground. I've watched the season finale so many times. And I'm a huge fan of John Redcorn in general just because of the episodes that I remember him on. Yeah. And, you know, that song, that song was a happy accident. Let's be honest. Nobody expect, I didn't expect that motherfucker to go as crazy as it did, but it did.

I only asked you simply because, you know, oftentimes artists, especially under the umbrella of hip-hop, and I kind of blame ghost face for this, or they'll just title their song, anything that has nothing to do with the song? Yeah. But when I saw that, I was like, nah,

there's something deeper behind this, besides just naming it, John Redcorn, and especially I know the character that he is, and was curious to how you landed there. And so... I actually started with... I was like,

I was watching King in the Hill. Yeah. And we were watching, I was watching the episode, um, where Joseph was like, it was like a Joseph John Redcourt episode. Yeah. And, you know, he left and was just in his, oh, he was crying in his car or something like that.

And it just, it made me so sad. I was like, oh, my gosh, poor guy. And the first first and the hook came immediately. Alone. Every night alone. And I was like, this might be interesting. And I started, I wrote that, I actually helped produce that song. So I did drums first.

I beat back and then I did the harmonies and recorded over the harmonies and then had somebody coming and play guitar. So I had musicians build around my, I did my little three part or whatever. And we went from there. But, you know, that was like I said, a happy accident. But it definitely helped shape how I wrote songs for the next few years because of how people responded to it. You know, it made me a little more adventurous. It made me want to connect the dots before I sat down the right. I do a lot of that, like a lot of prepping before I actually write the song in thought,

where I, you know, I listen to the music. I said I'm listening to the beat, but I'm also trying to just figure out, you know, what would go good over the beat and blah, blah, blah. But anyway, you know, this is like John Redcorn is my baby, man. It's the gift that keeps on giving. I love that song, man. Jones Beauty. Thanks, man.

for real. I want to ask you about one of your collaborators you've been working with over the years, D.K. the Punisher, man. And you guys, y'all's relationship and y'all's creative chemistry. How did that come about? Me and D.K. met through one of my favorite people on the planet, Cliff. I don't know if you remember. I met you back in a day through this guy through Andre Harris, through a Dram. Oh, you said. Drammerdow. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Dang, you've been to a playlist retreat. I met you at the playlist retreat. You've come to Jeff's thing?

Yeah. Yeah. I was there the first three years, and then the drugs happened. I knew that. I knew what. You know what? The night out came to a playlist retreat, I got there late from the Tonight Show, and there was a taco truck outside it. And what they failed to tell me was that all the tacos were infused.

And I, at that time, I was, you know, post-pandemic, I microdose, I like edibles. I'm very lightweight. And so I downed about four of those tacos because I was starving. and I found out the hard way. Yeah, don't. Oh, yeah. The rest of the night was interesting. Oh, euphoria all around.

Yeah, the most euphoric tacos you'll ever have in your life. Correct. But I actually met D.K. the Punisher in 2010 at Andre Harris's house. The first opportunity I had to write songs as just a songwriter, nobody's engineer, was given to me by Andre Harris. And me and D.K. met working under Andre Harris. And we got great placements,

had some great work. Met Ms. Jill, got placements on the woman project. You know, I did Fool's Gold. D.K. produced Fool's Gold for Ms. Jill on her last project. Nice. But, like, that's my brother. At this point, that's,

and, you know, that's my Baltimore connect, you know? So I like, me and him have a different type of relationship now outside of music. Like, I'm about to call him. right now. We were supposed to work out today. So he's going to go link up. But that's

my literal brother at this point. And musically, you know, me and him just click. Whenever we decide to work, it just works. Now, y'all boys, that chemistry, man. Man, but the music industry is tough, man. D.K. actually had to shift.

He's a web developer now. So, you know, and this is one thing that I always recommend to, you know, career musicians. If it's not paying your rent, like, don't force that. Don't be a broke musician. I don't recommend that for anybody. Having experienced that, go get you a fucking job. You're getting your job isn't going to take away from your talent. It's going to make it easier for you to get things done if you really think about it. You know, so D.K. did that. And,

of course, he still has places on heavy. He's still working. You know what I mean? But I'm, I'm happy for him because his life is balanced out now. And he can focus on being a better musician because he has a career to kind of balance. Another skill. Another skill. Another skill. Another skill. Another skill. A whole other skill. You didn't mean. What was your first placement? That's what I asked him, that I forgot. My first placement?

Oh, my God. A song called Drink Saint Free by Warren Gee. Oh, wow. I like that face, that came out of nowhere. All right. Yeah, no, yeah.

It's a peculiar one. Artist named Iman Omari. Yeah, shout to Imano Mari, man. Iman is the one that set that session up. He called me like, girl. Hey, hey, I got a session. warrant you pull up and then we pulled up and uh yeah i got i got my little part off

a win a win a win a win a win i don't care what you're saying yep that's me cliver taylor the fourth you might have seen the skits the reactions my journey from basketball to college football or my career in sports media well somewhere along the way this platform became bigger than i ever imagined and now i'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast the Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,

creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.

The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends.

I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target.

He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends. Trust me, babe. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wode. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell.

Woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just, I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come, look for up-and-coming talent.

He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.

It would not be on a calendar of, you know, You know, the cat, just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest.

The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. from hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcasts

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slice of Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault in Our Stars and now I guess also as the co-host of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.

I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game, and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.

Very debatable. And I was there most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, it's heartbreak, and above all, it's beauty. Together we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer

is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Can you talk about the L.A. music scene? Because I'm curious about the camaraderie, because I heard you mentioned in interviews before, that it's a lot of competition, but there's got to be camaraderie because you collaborate with Anderson.

You've collaborated with, I'm guessing, like, the majority of the folks out here. So, but what is the scene? Like, where do y'all go to, like, what's the club? It just doesn't feel like L.A. is like that, like Philly was. I come from Philly. Yeah, I know it's weird. No, I don't know. Ain't, ain't no scene for me.

Right. I came to myself. No, the LA musicians Like, it's like, all right, so you go to, you know how you go to LA shows and the crowd just like stares at you? Yes. Yeah, that's how the L.A. musicians theme feels. Like, we don't really get

along like you think we would. No, it ain't no camaraderie or anything like that. P.D.E is TDE. We keep to ourselves and it's everybody else outside of that, sir. A. TIE and TDEA though, right? Tye's not a TDE. Oh, TIE down a sign? Yeah. No, no, no, no. TIE not TDI.

But, I mean, that's like, Ty is time. He's hard to get to. The only reason I, I, like, have these connections is because I'm me. And I don't say that, like, as a musician, like, the type of person I am, you know, once you meet me and you shake my hand and you start to talk to you understand that I have no ill intention. I really respect the art and the game. And I think that goes a long way with a lot of artists. Like Anderson, I was a fan of hands. And I met him when he was still Breezy Lovejoy. And, you know, he was, I forgot the

project, but it had a song on there. I was like, take me to the Stargate. And blast me in his face. This beautiful song. And I met him and fanboyed and was genuine about it. Like, wasn't, you know, I didn't want to like act all hard. I was like, yo, I love your shit, man. Oh, my gosh. And me and him have been friends ever since because I was genuine.

And like when I meet people like Thai and, you know, I was always genuine. So I feel like they see me come back around with my own stuff and they want to help. They want to work because of the type of person I am. And that's the thing. It's always a people thing for me. you know what I mean I don't care where you're from what you do long as you're good people

you know and I I'm here to support that you see that in a circle back even when you mentioned Jill and how you had met her as an engineer and then y'all ended up collaborating on your album I was like well that speaks volumes yeah for sure for sure and I mean shout out to Ms. Jill man she's still very instrumental

like when I was going through all in my drug use she was calling me and like don't know didn't nobody called me didn't nobody check in on me yeah she called me the other day just about my mother just to check in And about my album, she called me to let me know she heard my shit. And like, she loved it.

You know what I mean? And like, shout out to Ms. Jill. I mean, you guys know. It's Jill from Phil. And shout out to Philly. Let's start there. Let's talk about that. Yeah.

Shout out to Philadelphia, okay? All of my music connects or all of the things that are all of the people that have really, like, put on for me are from Philly. You know what I mean? And I mean, you guys, I don't know what's in the water. but like the talent even now the talent pool is phenomenal you know what I mean and I'm glad to be a part of that community I'm glad to say that I'm somewhat a part of that community of people you know well thank you brother I appreciate that before we close I got to ask can you tell me and I'm asking more personally like what was the the process the steps to your your health journey now You know, a lot of prayer, a lot of prayer. And when I mean health journey, I actually mean your physical health journey. Oh, oh.

A lot of prayer. Well, no, you know, all right. So I'm a foodie. I love to eat. And during all of this, you know, the pandemic and stuff, all we had was postmates sitting at the house. I got up to about 250 pounds. But, yeah. Yeah.

Look, and, you know, even now, I'm just shocked to see where I got. To honestly answer your question, I don't know how all this happened. I just, I was, I was just standing on a wing in a prayer, man. No, no, no, I started by asking questions, what did I want? You know what I mean? Who do I want to be? What did I want to look like? And I came up with a goal to get down to 200 pounds.

And after I lost a few pounds, I got to this point where I wasn't losing any more weight. So I got a nutritionist because I felt like my eating was the biggest thing. So my nutrition is this is the real reason that I'm in the shape I'm in now. He taught me how to spread my meals out. He taught me how, you know, eat the right amount of protein, make sure I get the right kind of carbs in. So my diet did everything. You ain't no bread. You ain't no sugar.

What's you doing, sir? No bread, no sugar, no salt, no life, no love, no hugs, no. happiness. Oh, God. I'm with you right now, man. I'm drinking my salads. That's right. That's right.

And these damn seaweed chips. On a personal note, if y'all ever need information on the, I'm a wealth of knowledge when it comes to, like, health and eating and stuff like that. You know, because it's important, especially for us as black folk, you know what I mean? We have our issues and we need to pass knowledge around so that we can all, you know, thrive and be healthy. So anytime you feel like, you know, you know, need some information, man, feel free to reach out, bro.

I got you. So, sir, you want to functional mushrooms? You want to, what you, would you? No, no, no, no, no mushrooms. That's the part of my, I can't do mushrooms, no. No, not shrooms. Not shrooms, sir. I'm talking about raci.

He says the good shrooms. I do the bad shrooms. Yeah, not a mere shrooms. I'm talking about the other ones. The coffee shrooms. Over here, now are neutrals. You did say that you did that, like, I'm going to try that. Matter of fact, I'm going to try it now.

We have some in the kitchen. Yeah, my, raccoon, cordycee, cordyce. I got my multi-vitamin for sure. I definitely try to stay as healthy as possible. But, I mean, I feel like people that need multivitamins are eating like shit. You know what I mean? Eat healthy. You won't need to do all the extra shit.

Just put some greens in your body. This is the one. All right, here's the note of the day. If you're going to eat like crap, put something green on your stomach first because there's something inside of, you know, in the fiber or something. There's a chemical that gets put in your stomach and it lines your stomach and helps you digest your food better if you eat green. before you eat anything else.

So just eat a little salad before you eat anything else. That'll help out. Yes. Oh, salad. You're not like a juice. If you blend in, yeah, the juice works. I'm not a salad fan at all. So all my juices are salads.

Smart man. Smart man. And it works just as well. Can I ask fat, sir? One question. I'd like to ask fat sir. Old fat sir. Can you tell me, though, in Englewood, three of your favorite places to eat because I just

would like to know. You're going there right now? Inglewood, sir. All right. All right. If you just want to like small little breakfast spot, Emma is, and it's a hole in the wall. This is our bodega. Okay. All right.

Now, Emma's is on marketing Manchester. She right across the street from the swap meet. She's just a little hole in the wall. But you go in there, you just get you a breakfast burrito. Emma, take care of it. I'm a breakfast burrito theme. So thank you. I'm always on the chase.

Okay. All right. So now, and you tell her that Daniel sent you. Don't tell her Daryl sent you. Tell her he spoke to you. Ah! With extra G's on it. All right.

Yeah. So, uh, Doolins. Really? You don't like to see? See, nah, see? Are you having me, liar? No, no. Now, you're just disrespecting. I thought it was commercial.

I didn't know if it was, okay. Doolins is all we got. Now, I'm not, I'm not going to say it's the best old food out here because they, I'd be lying. But Doolins is what we got. Okay. So go get you some oxail. Go get you some. some some some mother chicken from duelings you'll be all right now give me a healthy spot

give me one the last spot loon what you got oh simply host them oh well yeah that's a little down the street okay perfect yeah that's not that's not that's not we go that's where we go simply hoarse you all you y'all don't know my two cents anymore that's spot no no no no no that's an out-of-towner's inguilwood spot i support my two sense oh okay ain't nothing wrong with that shout out to dust and felder but simply Hohsome is historic in, of course, in South L.A. and that ownership. Got it.

Got it. Well, sir. Thank you, sir. I thank you for taking time out to speak to us. Also, Godspeed on. Your mommy. Yeah, your mom's, man. Good energy to her.

But more than that, I really appreciate just you and applaud your ability to not only share your life, not only through your music, but in your personal story, your recovery. and just your daily walk. And it's needed. And especially the air quote, tumultuous times that we're in when you're watching a lot of the old guard get dealt with and you're seeing the new guard coming to play. You know,

this is overdue and needed. And I applaud you. And thank you for coming on and Questleft Supreme to share your story with us, man. Thank you. Man, I really appreciate you guys invited me, man. And just to say, I'm a huge fan, bro. I have been for years and years and years. I ain't going to gash you too much, man.

But I look up to you, man. Likewise. Thank you, brother. It's a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you. Thank you for having, man. The album is dope, but the song, like, that's my favorite record on the album. That's just a beautiful song, man.

Really vulnerable. Just the vocal performance on it is just really beautiful, man. So thank you. Thank you for saying that, bro. I really appreciate that. This album is a laborer. love and you know I'm just excited to start getting out here and performing these songs and getting through this yeah it's gonna be tough it's not gonna be tough it's not gonna be tough

it's what this album is it's gonna take one step at a time nah man just look if it's uncomfortable go with it if it's out of your comfort zone go with it yeah I've learned not to hold back on my emotions if I got a cry on stage I'm let it out but we don't get through it for sure that's important I applaud that shit all right don't be that Fontykalo, Sugar Steve, get your network back, bro. We thank you all, Aia. And the rest of...

Thank you, Lai, you get a new now today, girl. Welcome. Shout out the cousin, Jake, and Brittany. Thank you. And, sir, big up to you. We'll see you next week on Questlove Supreme. All right, peace.

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Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves.

We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar,

this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slice of Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I'm Daniel. I'm Daniel. I'm Daniel. And this is my friend. This is much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far. But I'm John Green, co-hosted the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel on our podcast The Away End. We'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 26 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer,

is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a recent episode of the podcast, Money and Wealth with John Hobriant, I sit down with Tiffany the budgetista Aliche to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money. What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they're no longer here. We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset shifts. Too many of us were never, ever taught.

If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more. Listen to Money and Wealth with John Hope Bryant from the Black Effect Network on the I'd Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an I-heart podcast. Guaranteed human.