The Questlove Show - Questlove Supreme: Spike Lee

Episode Date: July 15, 2020

This week Spike Lee returns to Questlove Supreme to break down his first feature length film released on Netflix, Da 5 Bloods.  Listen as Quest and Team Supreme catch up with Spike about the deep connection of Da 5 Bloods to Marvin Gaye's What's Going On, life post Oscar (and Covid), mortality, his family legacy and if it's time for us to all circle back on his critically acclaimed film, Bamboozled. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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our I-heart podcast, our special with Spike Lee today. We haven't done this in a minute. We haven't done this in the last two weeks. It's been a long, like two months. A lot that's happened. When you let, wait, two months, it's been that long. It feels like two months. It feels like it, yeah.

Thanks. I, you know, time. This, I used to laugh at, there's always two, quotes that come from movies that deal with jail, street jail. You know, the one cliche is like, you know, they take your body, but not take your mind. That's one thing you always hear. And number two is there's always two days. Only two days.

You come in and the day you walk out. The day you walk out. So, yeah, I just lose track of time. You said that's kind of true, Laya? No, I said what movie is that? The day you walk in, that's from what I heard, I know it from the wire that you only do two days. The day you come in and the day you walk out. I know it from the wire.

I'm sorry. That was our friend David Chappelle calling us. Oh, what? Speaking of the last two weeks, 846. Yeah. Yeah. A lot, a lot has that. Well, we have not spoken since the, what are we calling?

Are we calling the uprising? The uprising. I like the uprising. The uprising. I like uprising. I like that better than riot. Because, you know. And protests.

It's just something more progressive about it. Yeah, and more accurate. You know what I'm saying? I mean, because riot sounds like, or protests, riot sounds like it's just, it sounds reckless, you know what I'm saying? Like these people are just out here rioting and being stupid for no reason whatsoever.

You know what I mean? So I like uprising. Nobody wants to be a what? Adonnell. Oh, right. Well, yeah, I didn't even, I don't watch him, but I got you. I'm with you. I was literally like, who's that, like, yeah.

So are we going to do another episode on election night like we did four years ago? Looking at the results we got from election night. I'd say hopefully not, because like, do we, do we, you know, do we go through that again? Or do we try and break the jinks by not doing a show? show that night. Oh, God. Why did you mind? I was thinking maybe trying to break the jinks. Steve, I think it was Russia and them white ladies that voted for Trump. But that's, that's

I don't think it was. Well, yeah. Who was our guest that night? I forgot. It was Stephen Hill. Stephen Hill. That was Stephen Hill. It was Stephen Hill. It was also the same night my uncle got shot and subsequently died like a couple weeks later. He got shot

that night. It was like the eighth, I want to say. And then he died on Thanksgiving given day. Shit. That was just a, that was just a fucked up time all together. And I remember I was like with up front, with

up selling. Yeah, right. That was the weirdness about it. It's like the worst day of life and the funniest day of life like upselling. What do you call it when you talk over music on the radio?

Oh, right now. The back sale. Oh, yeah, backselling. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes.

I remember doing that interview when we were all sitting there and everybody had like their laptops or their phones or whatever and we're all trying to keep it cool and you just see the shit flipping red red red red red red right it's like oh shit

yeah and by the end of the interview that shit was crazy literally in a three hour interview the world changed because in the beginning we were all like word up inside and then by the end of that shit and by the end it was a rat it was a rat that's not happening this time y'all that's not happening

No. You don't think so? We should we should re-air that episode with Stephen Hill. Well, Stephen Hill is no longer. We also didn't say that at the time Stephen Hill was the head of BT and at that time. And then. That's right. Oh, wow.

A lot. A lot has happened on that show. He'll be DJ in a hell of a set on IG Live. Hey, Stephen, I'll be there. He, Stephen, he DJs on IG Live. Yes, he does. It's a little, it's about 11 people watching, but, you know, it'd be me and, uh, old boy, uh, the news, uh, dude from TV one. Uh, listen, it's all a battle to get.

Roland Martin. Yeah, Roland Martin. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I ain't going to that shit. Roland Martin blocked me for calling him a nigga on Twitter. So I don't, I don't know. Yo, what notable people have blocked you on Twitter? The only one I know of, I know, I remember Roland Martin did. And this was years ago because he was like, we need to band.

You got a list, Fonta. He just, I don't have a list like, yeah. I just say things and people, listen, I don't, I don't try to, you know, provoke anyone. But no, he was just on Twitter, and this was years ago, this was before I found Christ. But he was just like, look, we need to ban the N-word and all this. And I was like, nigga, please.

And that was it. And he just, you know, he banned me. And he still banned me and still has blocked me, which, I mean, fine, whatever. But then, M.C. Hammer has me. I don't know why. And that hurts. Like, Hammer, like, Hammer, if you see this Hammer, bro, I don't know what I said.

It could have been a joke, whatever. But look, man, I saw the too legit to quit tour. The police hamper don't hurt them tour. When I was in like seventh grade, it was you, boys and men and Jodicy. That shit changed my life. Like, Hammer, please. All of us forgiven, bro. Like, come on the show, man.

Let's talk about. Please, Hammer, please. Don't hurt them. Right, please hurt us. I would love to have y'all come to Jesus' moment on this show. like we had your salon come to Jesus moment on the show. Yeah. Would you even think that Hammer was even remotely aware of who he blocked or what the situation was?

He probably had no, I'm sure he doesn't have any clue who'd fucking. I mean, it could have, I don't know what it could have been. It could have been a joke. It could have been whatever. But the bottom line is I was following MC Hammer. Like, I mean, I, you know, I fuck with Hammer.

I'm a legend. But if we get him on the show, we straighten it out. Maybe it's a snapper. We easily get him on the show. I don't even know why to, okay. I would like to get a hammer. The other guy on too, please, from even Hill.

Rolling Martin. Rolling Martin. Yeah, let's get him on. Oh. Yo. Let's stream that out. It's time. I mean, we can't because he on.

Listen, I'm not, I'm not ducking no smoke from nobody. I just don't think, because he's very, he has very specific views about, uh, about the N word and like coon and stuff. And I don't use that word.

But yeah, he's like very big on those words. And that is, yes, I use like, nigger is noun, adjective verb, and adverb. So listen. That's damn near you're doing. Yeah, I'm like, come on,

you ain't about to tell me what I can't say on the show we're doing. So, I don't know. Yeah. If we could work in with Spike about the way bamboozle kind of is relevant to, I mean,

in a lot of ways, but especially to what's going on. Like literally today, like cream of wheat is changing their logo and and Jamaica. And, Uncle being. Yeah, and the Washington

Redskins. Oh, so no more, no more black stuff on the Queen on Cream of Week? The Redskins are finally. Yeah, I was about to say are the Redskins is considering as well. Yeah, yeah,

everybody is considering it now, you know, like so. Landau Lakes. But Bamboozle was kind of like specifically about that symbolism stuff, you know.

Okay, Steve. You're right. That was a good pool. I didn't, I didn't think about that one. Yeah. I mean, I know that,

I know that Netflix did their whole Black Lives Matter section for Spike. Oh, my God. Releasing, you know, like get on the bus and Rodney King thing and some other stuff he did. Django? Is Django in there? Django was done by Quentin Turington. I do know that.

That's why I was making sure. I was just saying, Black League, because the Netflix section is on. No, no, no. I just meant like Spike has his own wing in the. Oh, good. He has his own suite in the Black Lives Matter Hotel, uh, on Netflix. Netflix is going above and beyond. You know, the president just gave all this money to HBCUs,

but most notably the riches of HBCUs, Morehouse and Spelman. I'm not mad, I'm just saying. Right. Right. Yeah. Wait a minute. Before we get Spike on, I need somebody to translate something for me. Because I don't, you know, I don't want to be tone deaf and say I don't speak millennial.

And on top of that, you know, I'm. pals with this particular person. Okay. I'm not a millennia. I'm Gen X. No, you're a millennial bank. You a damn lot. I'm Gen X.

He's Gen X, man. Look it up. Okay, I'm not going to. I'm just going to look it up. I was born, I was born in 78. I'm 41 years old. I'm like,

he's 78. He's GenX. He's us. I'm like right at the end. Yeah, I'm like the youngest end, but yeah, I'm like right there. But can someone translate this? Can you give me a movie in the minute version of this

Jay Cole, no name thing? Oh, what's that about? Yeah, I saw it. Come on. Never mind. Too much. No, no, no, it's not too much. It's okay. So, moving in a minute, J. Cole, no name. Okay. No name, and I'm just giving context. No name did a talk, which I did not see. I just saw kind of the out, the out, you know, the fallout of it. She did a talk with Boots Riley on live, I think, and they were just talking about, I I guess socialism and police abolition.

Like they were just having a conversation. I didn't see the entire thing in context, but the fallout, the, what I saw from the fallout was that, oh, he was over talking her and he was, it just,

it went left, right? Then Jay Cole puts out a song and he's saying, yo, it was this sister on her timeline. She don't like the cracker. She don't like the police. She don't like this.

And, you know, it was something about her tone that's bothering me. Now, at no point in this song, did he ever say no name? At no point in no names tweets or in her talk with Boots Riley, as I understood, she had said something about, you know, all these rappers, these rich rappers or something, you know, they ain't said nothing. But she never said his name or anyone's name. So Cole puts out this song saying, it's this girl online saying this that,

and the third, I don't like her tone. I saw another site put up and they were saying, yo, uh, Jay Cole is, say, it's talking about no name in his new verse. Now, at no point in time and any of this that he ever say her name in the verse.

And to my knowledge, at no point does she ever say his name? So as far as what I'm sitting, all this shit is just fucking conjecture to start, right? It's just, y'all niggas is just, speculation. It's all fucking speculation.

So the song comes out. People say it's immediately about no name. Everybody lose. this shit. Oh, he's policing a woman. He's why she's talking about her tone policing, all this shit. Right. And it just becomes a shit show. So then the next morning, Cole put out a series of tweets. And he was just like, look, I said what I said. You know, all love the no name. You know, he was like, you know, she's doing the work.

I'm not a dude to be reading like that. And these are his words. He's like, I don't be reading like that. Yeah, he's like, I don't, you know, I don't be reading like that. Okay. I'm shocked. Jay Cole. But he says it in his verse He's like, yo, don't let my degree fool you You know, you can have you know Just because I went to college Doesn't mean I'm is up on these issues

Everyone else So that was so that was that And I mean, that was it to me Yeah, it was just the shit show for a day And I mean, it was Yeah, I came in the middle of it and didn't You know I was Donald Glover walking to an apartment on fire

Like exactly That's exactly I was like what in the hell Exactly. Can I just say one more thing before we bring Spike in because he's here? I just wanted to say congratulations to O'Girl who created, you were about to lose your job? Because I don't know if y'all heard, but she found her family and they got her off the streets. I was just really excited about that story. Are you serious? Yeah, yeah.

And she was like, y'all have no idea what that did for me. So I wish I had her name in front of me, but I don't. But I don't know that was a dope story. I had no. Now, I will say this. Just to tap up big ups to the girl that, that coined that you about to lose your job anthem. The best tweet of the J-Cold no-name debacle goes to my man Al Shipley

and he won Twitter. It's only like eight of us that like got it, but it was a great fucking tweet. He goes, and I quote, the J-Cold lyric is something about the queen tone that's bothering me. It's problematic because nobody questions Brian May's pedalboard and amp settings. And I'm bringing in, frankly. Digger, like, that's it.

I mean, come on. Nice. That's all you need to know. Like, that's it. That's what it is. I'm going to go study and figure out that joke because that was a total, like, musical type of person. That shit was made for me and all the people.

And C, because, you know, I know. And all the people. Brian May was the guitarist and queen, and so the pedal board is the, uh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, we are joined by friends of the show, newly bestowed Academy. Award winner, storyteller, Aura, African-American Griott, and always the

cinematic provocateur. One of the last original storytellers we have today. Please welcome back to QLS Live and Questlove Supreme for a second appearance. Our pal and friend, Mr. Spike Lee.

How you doing? How's everyone doing? Everybody's safe? We good, brother. We good. How are you holding up? Are you in a museum right now? Now, this is my office here in the People's Republic of Brooklyn, New York, for a green baby. Yes, sir. That same spot I visited with the baseball mitt in the room.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but this one of the editing rooms. Oh, okay. I took a nap in that room once. I forgot what I was there for you. You had a Super Bowl party or something, and I finished it. Yeah, yeah. Where is everybody? I'm at home in North Carolina, Raleigh, North Carolina. No, Taka, L.Calachia.

I'm in Los Angeles. L. I'm in Manhattan. I'm money-making. And I'm in a ranch somewhere in Westchester on a friend's farm. But I just closed them on my house yesterday. So yes, I'll be back to New York. Thank you.

What can I ask what, Burrell? This is in palisades. All right. So, yeah. I have to say, Spike, I believe that. the last time I physically saw you, I saw you twice. You were flying on your way, I believe, to somewhere in Africa or somewhere overseas where you told me that it was the first day of scouting wherever.

I don't know where you shot the film. But I was going to Thailand. Okay, maybe I thought Africa. Okay, I remember you telling me that you were going somewhere far off to shoot. Yeah, yeah. I saw you there. And then coincidentally. Was that at Jay Z's party after the Oscars?

No, no, no, no. I saw you in the airport. Well, I forget where it was, but it was you were on your way to scout for locations. And then I saw you on the way back home. Oh. Coming from it. So I saw you on. That's a complete circle.

Exactly. You gave me a synopsis on the way home. And I was like, I was trying to figure that out. Quest, people still trying to figure it out. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Okay, look, okay, so I got a question for you.

What was the idea of naming all the soldiers after the temptations and Norman Whitfield, like being storming Norman? L-O-B-E. You caught that one. I didn't catch that one either, Fonte. I'm mad. I didn't catch that. He's looking like, wait, what happened? The five, and you know a good thing, though?

A great thing happened the other day. Old as William's called me. Wow. Okay. The last living member of the temptations. And he says, he told me, I'm speaking behalf of all my brothers aren't here. Thank you for doing that. That's what's up, man.

It was out of nowhere. So out of nowhere. One question I wanted to ask you, the last time we spoke, that I didn't. What is for this movie specifically and I think the last time we spoke to you you were just about to launch she's got to have it on Netflix

so this is even before Black Klansman even though you were still working on it. Okay so I guess I can start with now like now that this is in the can what is what is your what is your daily or weekly process when it comes to conceptualizing

what do you want to add next to your can Like, I don't know the name of whatever movie you're about to do, but like, does the idea start in that room that you're in right now? Do you sit for silence? Do you have a notepad where you? I'm open, you know, I think that I've learned. Quest, I think you might forget. I'm 63 years old.

I'm in my fourth. I'm in my fourth decade. So I've learned that I got to be open. when the news comes, I just can't like, now I've got to think of an ideal. It doesn't for me. It doesn't work like that.

So I just got to be open to the muse. I trust it. I trust the muse. So where did it start for this film? Like, what was the... When we were interviewing him, when we interviewed you at Electric Lady, you were telling us singing the praises of 1970,

Right? That was the movie. What was the movie? The war movie? That was a war movie, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Right. So that was the question, just being back on Amir's question, I was like, didn't it start all the way back then when you were talking to? No, no, but let me tell the story. This is, I did not write the original script for this. The original script was written by Danny Billson and Paul de Mayo.

Paul deMale has since died, since he died before we started to shoot the film. the film of the illness. They produced a Lloyd Levin optioned script. It was called The Last Tour. And it was about white Vietnam events. Except one. They automatically brought it to Alha Stone. Algerstone sat on it for two years and walked away.

Lloyd Levin just happened to read an article in The Guardian where I talked about one of my favorite films, which is a treasure ceremony. starring Humphi Bogart. And the take, there's a gold, the whole gold thing in this film which came directly from the Tres Cere Madre. He called me up, said a, you know,

set of a meeting. We were getting ready to go right into Black Clansmen. So we met with my co-writer, Ken Wilma, and I told him, look, I like it. It's a great script. I want to change it. For me to be involved, we have to change the viewpoint.

This has to be told to the viewpoint of African American Vietnam debts. And Kevin and I, we wrote it, you know, twisted it, put some funk on it. And Marvin Gay

and, you know, everybody and the world has seen a result now on Netflix. Yeah, I love the way you use the Barvin Gay acape acapeppellas in the joint, man. That was really... There was only one, though. only one. Yeah. That was beautiful, man. And you said you filmed this in Thailand, not Vietnam, right? No, mostly in Thailand, and we ended in Vietnam. So can you talk about, because I was

talking to another filmmaker about filming in Vietnam, and they were talking about, since it's a communist country, how sometimes challenging it could be, like sometimes they have people following people to make sure you're doing what you say you're going to do. What was that experience? No, we never had that, but we had to have the script passed through it a sensor. So we didn't know, and we was up to our last week in Thailand, and we still not gotten the green light to shoot in Vietnam. But once we got the green light, no one's following us. It was all love.

And it's also, number one, in Vietnam, too, on Netflix. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clever Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.

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Do you prefer, is this an adjustment to you? Like, I know, I would imagine the same way it is for me making records. Like, I miss the sort of the romantic view of like having a tangible piece of wax with an album cover or whatever format. I mean, CDs and cassettes are no longer there, but still like, you know, for movie makers, I would imagine that they still dream of, you know, like looking at a marquee and seeing their names and sort of, I mean, does, I know Netflix doesn't have the same cachet as going straight to video and you actually see bigger results.

But is that at least an ego adjustment that this is now the new normal for filmmakers, where you go straight to streaming as opposed to inside of movie theaters? Like, does it feel different for you? Netflix was the last place I had to go. And every other studio said, no, coming off, Black Clans. Even coming off of an Oscar win? Well, the Oscar had not happened, but we were nominated.

Right, okay. Six nominations. Ariel's Turn This Down. So God bless. Netflix. Now, of course, no one knew the world's going to change. So a lot of people have films ready, but their studios, which they made them for,

does not have a streaming service. So because of that, and this was a next week's film, this film debuted all around the world at the same time. Before the world changed, BC, not before Christ but before Corona. COVID. I was going to be the president

of the jury, the first black president ever in the Cannes film festival. Cons? Wow. And this is, you didn't hear that? And this is in the world, in the world premiere of the Five Bloods are going to be in con out of competition. The world changed.

But the answer, it'll give you a more a deeper answer. You know, plans change. And a lot of, everybody had died, had plans. Over 20,000 New Yorkers had plans. Over 100,000 Americans had plans. All these people had plans.

So for me, I'm just, I say, God bless I'm alive. And my family is, you know, that's where I take it. I don't mean to get any deep spiritual thing, but for me, how can I complain that my movie didn't come out the way it did? You know, when people,

everybody had plans and the world has changed, you know, and the ones that are here are screaming, Black Lives Matter all over the world. Right. Facts. The timing couldn't have been more uncanny.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. And then another thing, another, I know you have questions for me, but I don't say something right away, then I have to get it. People asking me, friends and journalists, Spike, didn't you, well, all this should happen, didn't you run back and shoot that Black Lives Matter scene wrong? That is the first thing we shot. Wow. Really? this is the slate for a camera the first day of Prince photography was March 25th 2019 and we went to May 21st 2019 so again the first day of Prince photography was March 25th a full year before we shot the Black Lives Madison in pre-production wow hey so anyway, there are a lot of things

that happen with this film that's on some spiritual level that had nothing to do with. That's happened with a lot of your films though. We were talking before, like before you came on, about how bamboozled and like how now we're seeing like they're getting

you know, Uncle Ben and Aunt Jamima and like getting all that out to paint. You know what I'm saying? And you were showing that, you know, that was, you know, 20 years ago. Are there, you know, I'll say, you're leaving out, you're leaving out something. Do the right thing. We were, we were talking about global warming.

Right. Yes, you were. You were talking about global warming. You know what my friends call me? What? Negro Domus. They'd be like, Spike, you'd be talking about shit before shit even happened.

You did. Well, wait, that's, okay, so I'll say like, every other month I might bug you with the text asking why your entire film, your film collection isn't in one space. I mean, right now is, do you not think now is, is, in its 20th, and it's 20th anniversary, now's the time for bamboozle to come out again, because I can't find it anywhere and I need to see it in context. It just came out on criteria and just put on a great new,

Blu-ray of it. Restored picture, sound, everything. Bamboozos is a criterion collection film? Yes, when you've been at? Oh, man. We've been in the house. It came out like two months ago. This is a very bittersweet.

Like, in my mind, I'm such a film nerd. I'm like, wow, I wish one day I could be a criterion film. And now I will say that, all right, so living on a tour bus for like the last 25 years, you know, you just buy any and every DVD that, to keep your mind. occupied. So Criterion Collection is basically like it's it's the it's the upper

echelon. Rolls Royce. Yeah, it's the upper echelon of film releases. It's like a committee that decides that this particular film regardless of its stature and the box office, whatever, deserves the royal treatment. I mean, now, you know,

companies are doing that now that you know, there's 25th anniversary. of this and 35th anniversary of Purple Rain and that da-da-da-da-da. But like back in the day, when Criterion approaches you and says, we would like to re-release, it would be like an independent label deciding, okay, I'm going to take Fonte's first record, the first Little Brother record, the listening, and give it the royal treatment, remaster it, new album cover. Great analogy, great analogy.

Yeah, and so, wow, that's funny. It's always been my dream to be in a criterion. Wow, be careful for what you asked for. Wait, can I just ask this question, Spike? Because you're more than me, but like you said, you are Negro Damos. And what does it feel like present day? Because we were just talking about this before you came on, where number one, we have protests, including all kinds of people outside of us. Number two, we wake up to no more Uncle Ben, no more ain't your mama.

Twitter says Juneteenth is a holiday. New York says Juneteenth is a state holiday. Like, I feel overwhelmed. What does it feel like? In other words, how many calls did you get? How many calls did you get the last two weeks to explain stuff to them and how many you've been explained? How many rough drafts did you have to read to make sure that this tweet was okay?

But listen to this though. Helps, Mike, what do I do? Here's my answer. They better leave motherfucking Uncle Ben alone. Don't fuck for Uncle Ben. My brother's rice. If you got can't fuck with Uncle Ben, you can't fuck with Angel Mama.

She got a whole new look. So you got a perm, right? Yeah. He's a firm. No, the story actually, you know what? I just read that I didn't realize that similar to the family that won that settlement for the lion sleeps tonight,

the South African family from writing it for the last 37 years the family of the woman who is the original Aunt Jemima logo who was also instrumental in them getting the recipe together

has been trying to like she's basically owed the minimum is at least a $2 billion settlement for the last. Get your money. So let's see what happens. White corporations,

they're like, get a money way like it's all right. Yeah, like, I don't know, I'm in shock. I don't know whether to take people on their word.

Like, is it going to change in a week? I don't want to get used to it. It's very, it's, I, you know what it is? Like, reparations.

It's all cool. It's cool, but it's like, we're going to get to it. I don't, I feel like this is more like a get out of discussion. free card.

And it's like to attack and go away. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not just going to be, you know, it's like this is sort of like with the, I voted for Obama. So now racism is over. And it's like, okay, well, I donated. Yeah, we saw it happen.

Amazon's like, I'll give $250 million to this particular. So now racism is over. There's, there's still a bigger conversation to have for real change. So I mean, yeah. Like it's, it's, it's, it's cool. now, but I still feel as though that's that's kind of a get out of discussions free cart. And that's the deeper, that's the deeper conversation that needs to be had. So I mean, it's cute, but I'm watching very skeptically right now.

Yeah. Spike, I always wanted to ask you after you won for Black Klansman, being the director that won you know, finally got an Oscar like later in your career, what changes? was it because or were there changes um you know we've seen people that went them early and they kind of you know it changes them but you had been putting in the work for so long and your track record already spoke for itself so by the time you want to you a question you see a question between black clansman and the five bloods that you think that affected my cammy ward affected the five bloods but so but you said had you won oh we just fact you were nominated

it, but then they still passed. But you didn't, and you won, I guess, it was after, was the Fibla's already in production when you won? No, the morning actor, the morning actor, I was on a plane in Thailand, Bangkok. Ah, okay, okay, I got to tell. But the answer to that is no, then, right, Spike?

Like, not. So even after you won, it was still a fight to get your stuff put out. Now, the deal was done. I'm just saying that Netflix was the last one I had, I could, it was no one else to go to. It's two, you know, so we won the Oscar, We partied that night.

That morning, I never went to bed, packed my bags, and was on a plane that Bangkok, Thailand. It was LAX. No, I'm sorry. Okay. And so. I did remember. My production, my great productions night and Win Thomas, whose first film was, she's going to have it, 986. My cinema photographer Tom Siegel, they had been in Bangkok for four weeks already.

The exactest two had to do is Oscar shit. So I had to catch up. So a minute I landed in Bangkok and that 100 degrees hit me upside the head. That Oscar stuff was out the fucking window. It was over. Yeah. I had to catch up because we can make shoot a movie. So all that Oscar stuff between LAX and Bangkok was gone.

Wow. I guess it would be more apt to ask an actor. What kind of director are you? Are you the director that? Well, no, no, no. Okay, so I, I can answer that. I can answer that. I ask, I asked Paul Thomas Anderson this question. Like he, Paul Thomas, P.T. Anderson is the type of guy that will do 20 takes of the same scene. Because he knows by like the 13th time, there will be a certain rhythm that feels natural. But the level of intensity that you got Delroy Lindo did really give you in this film,

his most nominated Del Rey Del Rey his most intense acting so like how many takes does it take to get him to that level

like was this just take one he was on or it took a few times I mean I'll give more than one take but here's the thing this is my fourth film with Delroy but it's been 25 years

between this and the last one Deilroy first work played Weston Archie. Yeah, next. Malcolm X. Great. He was in clock. He played my, Plot played the drug campaign.

Also, he played my actual father. Father is Crooklyn. Yes, he did. I forgot about Crooklyn. So, he played my father. And all you guys, and gentlemen, you all notice that you can have great talent.

But sometimes you get lost in the sauce, putting in work, putting in work. But you get that vehicle. you get that role Delroy's been putting work WRK for the get You know what I'm saying

Black people been here Sorry How you fighting the air like Cuba Good and Jr. And boys in the hood fly you Why are you fighting the air Dalloy did not fall off the Delroy

Did not fall off the truck He's been putting in work And this role You had to be vehicle. He took it to another level. He was his own. Can we talk about casting? I was going to say, how did you, in your mind, like, how did you, how did you decide that this was the right ensemble for you? I've worked with him three other times. I know, I know what he could do.

First-hand experience. But Spike, in all fairness, you've done so many movies with such a large collective of actors that you have a bat that you could have picked out of. I mean, you know, from Lawrence Fishburn to, I mean, there's just a bat of people that could have. Nah, we were, we met my wife, we were talking other night and last night we were watching, I think they've been showing she, they've been showing he got game a lot on HBO now. Like, they've been showing that a lot. And we were just talking like how you, you were kind of like the Miles Davis of, in terms of

like a talent scout, like what Miles Davis was, the jazz and being able to see Herbie to see Coltrane. Like the dudes and the actresses and actors that you pick, you know, the stuff that they go on to do after working with you. And, you know what I mean? It's incredible. And one actor that you chose for the Five Bloods that I love is Jonathan Majors, who plays The Sun.

How did you pick him and what was the thing you saw in him that was like, yo, he's the one? Oh, Delroy? No, Jonathan Major is the son. Have you seen the last black in San Francisco? I did. Yes, I have. I have.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The play scene was. I didn't see him in that film after he audition. Oh, that's why I thought you chose him. No. My casting director, Kim Coleman. Wow. I just wanted to, you know, us talk.

Oh, yeah, no. But to talk about you earlier, I mean, here's the thing. Do the right thing was Rosie Perez's first film, had the late great Robin Hatch's first film, Martin Lawrence's first film, Jungle Feig was Halle Berry's first film, Queenly Chief is first film, and we can go on and on and on and on. Barry Gordy. Not John, Carlos Rosizito, like everybody.

Yeah, but John, that wasn't, I mean, that wasn't his first one, but yeah. Yeah, but still, so I just have, when I get the vibe, you know, I know that's somebody I want to work with and work with again. I would like to know. What's the barometer for, I mean, I would think that having a 92 in Rotten Tomatoes, I mean, it doesn't, doesn't hurt at all. But what is the barometer now that there isn't a box office listing per se to determine

if a film does well or not does well? Like how do you, what's, what's the new standard or the number? Well, this is, I heard that our opening box office, if you could make analogy from the people who saw it on Netflix to people buying a ticket, we opened up like $125 million weekend. That's good, ain't it? It's real good, isn't it?

Very good. Yeah, I just want to know. But is it good enough for Netflix to say? a, hey, let's make a deal. Or you just say one at a time. No, no, I mean, it's love. Again, I said before, no one else wanted to do this film.

In light of his new studio in Atlanta, did you take it down to No, it was No, and that's no due respect to my brother. Because. Yeah, no, no, no, no.

Quest, it's all love, baby. And I just want to say, say it's something, you know, I didn't necessarily show. Me and Tyler are mad cool. Okay. That beat was washed years ago. I called him up out of the blue. He said, I said, we got to talk.

I jumped, put my ass, my black guys on a plane from LaGuardia, Atlanta. Went out to his mansion. We sat down, talked, brother to brother, black man and black man, gave you the hug. and for nothing but love ever since. Remember this. He did not, you know, all that big complex he has. He not had to put my name on a studio, on a list.

On one of his studios, one of those stages. He didn't have to do that. But he did because there would be no Tyler, not for you, but he did. But it wasn't even about that. I know, I know. It's just, it's love. I did not want to put Tyler in a position, you know, like, come on. like.

Yeah, straight up. I feel you, but I would think my thing is that if you, if you're, I mean, okay, so establishing the studios one thing. Here's a thing. No. When I answer that and let me, if I could adjust that answer.

Mm-hmm. I was, I was only asking because I know that he has the complex up and he's open for business. But then I was kind of wondering like what step two, is step two now, like, for directors and

screenwriters, like, do they, is it a studio in the terms of like MGM? Like, do you, is he an option to take it to? And is Georgia, it's just Georgia stop you from wanting to go down there because of their laws and what they're doing to women suppression on their bodies and whatnot because some people are considering that too.

I'm just saying it is a factor that they, you know. True. I see. But seriously, I can't ask that question. I don't know if, you know, is the studio in the sense where he's also financing films or is it that I own stage? Is it just a place to shoot? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if he was the studio in terms of.

I don't know that answer. Warner Brothers or MGM. That's what I was trying to ask. Oh, I didn't think he was. I didn't think he was yet. So that's just a place to shoot if you want to shoot. As of now, I mean, I don't know what is his is the end game of it all. Okay.

That's all I wanted to know. Thank you. That's all I wanted to know. When you did, well, kind of following up on that question, when you did X and, you know,

as we talked last time, you was like, you called, called folk up like, yo, it's station time. Let's get it. You know what I mean?

Was there ever consideration after that of saying, well, if we can come together to do this, why don't we keep going? What are some of the challenges in self-funding

and put doing stuff like that? The challenge, is really most people lose money when you invest in a film. Okay. And very few of us have disposable income where they can just write a check and not even be, you know, hurt.

Just take them losses, yeah. So it's, look, it's not, this thing's been a struggle since 1619. When that first ship landed James Town, Virginia, and if history has tossed anything, you know, it's the struggle continues. We take it by day. day by day and it's like, you're not going to chop down a redwood tree with that first wing.

But you got to be John Henry like a motherfucker, though. Right. Spike, can I ask you, my, the five bloods real quick? It's a, in the movie, there's a picture of Delroyd is shown it looked like he was actually, he actually served in the military. Is that the case? Yeah, that was from America graffiti, too. He did.

Wait, what? Wow. I didn't even know there was an American graffiti, too. Wait, say what? We found it. There was such a thing? Yes. How come I don't know about this?

I've never heard of America graffiti, too. Google, Google, I'm D-B, Sugar. I got a computer, too. He on a computer. But he's not talking. Let him do it. I haven't seen that movie, but I have the soundtrack for it. So if there's a soundtrack for it, it must be really new. looking.

American graffiti too. Did you use any Vietnamese actors? Wow. A more American Gapiti. You're right. Everybody was Vietnamese. So then, okay, so this leads

to my next question then. The scene on the boat with Delroy and the guy selling the chickens, right? That shit was real. It seemed to me, did you ever have to have a off-camera come to Jesus moment with the cast because history is so deep in that way

and y'all were shooting in Vietnam and some of these Vietnamese actors do have a history with this. war in that way because it was so, you know, it's so emotional the part about you killed my father and my mother, body's fucking chicken. I told, I told my brother to use that because he didn't speak that much English.

But I said, black GI, black GI. Right, were there real moments like that? You killed my mother. Yeah. That was awesome. Because there's history. Yeah. And one of the key lines, everybody, in the film

a war never ends. And we had a Vietnamese brother, Ben, say that line. People in America, in Vietnam, are still dealing with this war. It's come on 50 years from now, 50 years ago. Another thing that I learned very quickly that if you're in Vietnam, and you say the Vietnam War, they say, no, no, no, no.

American War, I know. We call it their American War. We did not go to the motherfucking, United States in America. You motherfuckers came here. Got your ass kicked. And before that, the French came here and got their ass kicked. You did mention, that wasn't mentioned in the movie. Why they were, yes, speaking the French. The French colonized Vietnam. I mean, when you get a chance, we get a chance, look at your globe. Globe, that's cute. I'm looking at. Or, uh, yeah, just go to your,

Google a world map. Look how big Vietnam is. I'm looking. Wow. Okay. I see. What state you think? What's the question? You got it. What state you think is comparable in size to Vietnam? Guess.

By the looks of it. I mean. Not Texas. No, no. For Texas is big in a Vietnam. I'm looking. One of the smaller states. Yeah, this is, this could be up in New England somewhere.

Mm-hmm. So just say like, for a guess, maybe it's the size of Rhode Island. Or, yeah. Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont. That is the size of Vietnam. They kick motherfucking ass. They do. Bye, when they were to see you?

Did they know when they? you came to Vietnam, like Spike Lee. Some did, some did. But we made a conscious effort in this film not to dehumanize being these people. Yeah, good job. Not to make them villains. We treated with love respect

and we got that in return. One question I have about your, because you say, you know, war, that was the theme. You know, war never ends. Was that a part of the decision to keep the main actors the same age in the flashbacks, you know what I mean? And the only one that was young was Chad, you know, Norman.

Yeah. It was, it's a, thank you for the question again. I was afraid to ask that question. No, I've been asking a question a million times already now. So I have the correct answer. As I said earlier, everybody, Netflix was the last person who stated due to film. But they said, were doing it for a price a price let you do it a price if i'd add to do the age the age the

actors would add it another hundred million dollars to a film i have to do it was that a hundred million down that's more the whole the whole film car Irishman territory another part of this answer and complicated answer that we had very two days where the temperature was not over 100 degrees. Okay. We were shooting in the jungles of Thailand. Make-up aesthetics would have melted right in front of right cameras. So with all those things I just said,

combined with my confidence in the intelligence of the movie going audience, that the first time they see it, it will be jarred, But then like that, the light bulb will go and, you know, off over the head and like, I get it. This is a memory. So that is the answer to your question. Yeah, yeah, my good friend, Saraya McDonnell, who writes for the undefeated, and she gave the five bloods good review. She was the one that kind of made that point of just how that was the way, even though it was, you know, it may have been a budgetary restriction or whatever, but that was just. a way to show that they never left the war.

Like, they're still there. That's what did he just said. Yes. And what did Marvin Gay sing? War is hell. Yeah. But when it and I'm not going to sing it, when we start getting back together again.

So I know the question is coming about Marvin Gay. Marvin Gay had an older brother named Franklin. He did three tours in Vietnam, three tours. He was a radio operator, and he was writing his brother every week. And Marvin never answered one of those letters. Wow. And I think a lot of ways that album is an answer. It was a letter he never wrote.

So Marvin is getting a firsthand account from his brother who's doing three tours of Vietnam. Plus, Marvin is in Detroit, Motown, so he's seen the buds come back. Mamed, fucked up, strung on heroin. So all those things Look, I might be wrong. I think those are the things that all came together that he gave the world the gift of one of the greatest albums ever. In my opinion, what's going on?

So Marvin is a character in this movie. Oh, he definitely is. Did you know from the gate that you were going to use that album, that entire record as? Yes. Yes. No, I'm glad I did that because it introduced, is yet another generation to an album that's about to celebrate its 50th anniversary.

And another thing is that we did, another thing that we did is that my brother Sanky, who does all my still photography, and not still photography, records, he's behind the scenes. While we were in Thailand, he gave me that acapella version was, I never heard it before. I never heard it. Had never ever heard of Alcabella what's going on. And once I heard it, I knew he had to put it on a scene with Paul as he's on his descent into the depths, you know.

Right. Yeah, I feel like that was your living for the city moment from jungle fever. Yeah. That was your... Living up in the city? Yeah, just using a song that... We go to the Taj Mahal.

Yeah. Oh, it's a Taj Mahal. Yeah. Jesus. Also, two, one of my favorite scenes where you did that is in Girl 6 when you use How Come, you don't call me anymore. You don't call me anymore on the boardwalk? That's my favorite fucking scene. Tony Allen.

Tony Allen Boardwalk. Yeah. And Spike, as a... I'm going to get on you with it. Again, every time I talk to you, I'm going to say, as a CAU person, I found it very interesting the way you again, world Moorehouse into another of yours. I just,

the house. I was actually right. I do not mention Clark A.U. Now it's called back north Clark was called Clark College. My major was actually, even like graduating from Morehouse, he looks his class in 1979. My major, Herb Eichelberger taught me. He's the one that believed in me as a young filmmaker.

So I know you're absolutely distraught now that Reed Hastings just gave 40 million to Moorehouse, 40 million of Stelman, like y'all needed. 40 million to the United States Fund and Clark A.U. He gave it to the two-year-old country. Was that you doing? Hey, I thought I bought it like the rest of the world. Okay, okay. Listen to this, though. You know why that's special to me?

No bullshit. My father went to Morehouse. When my father was a freshman, Dr. Martin Luther King was a senior. Martin Luther King III and I are classmates. We both graduated Class 79. My grandfather went to Morehouse. My mother, who was a centerfile, she's the one, she's the reason why I'm a filmmaker.

She went to film. My grandma lived 100 years old. Wow. She went to Spelman. My grandmother is the one who saved the Social Security checks for 50 years for a grandchild's education. I was at first born. I had first dibs. My grandmother put me through Morehouse, put me through NYU, and gave me to see money, but she's got to have it.

I get it. So that's why I show love, Morehouse. and Spelman plus the world's grades hurdler. Say it with Moses. When Moses was one year ahead of me. Class is 78. So what? Nobody brides up on a school like more house men and Spelman women.

I'm going to tell you. The motherfucking house. What? All right. One day I'll do it for Clark, why, you, okay? I was right to do it for Clark. You ain't got to do it, Amir. My proceeds from the Harlem Cultural Festival.

All right, y'all. Bill Nunn, who used to teach at Clock Atlanta. And where you go? I don't know. The house. And Samuel Jackson. You know he was going to say Sam. I knew you was going to say Sam.

You get about y'all and that brother team. Sam, Sam and Sam and Bill with classmates and more house. When you saw Sam presenting the award, you you kind of knew already right i had an inkling but i didn't want to go for the dope pink double cross again like i love you so much i don't want to go for that i wasn't going i look i was a hit it was a hit but i've seen that skull dougary shedanagan's subterfuge before right we all have Nah, man, I was there. I was there.

I was there. That was like one of the most electric moments in the audience, man. Like, watching that. And seeing Ruth get one, too. Like, it was just. Yeah. Oh, there was a bunch of us. Yeah.

That was a good night for Negroes. All around. Not just the one-to-one Oscars, a holiday for all of us. Yes. Yeah. It was great. That was a great night.

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You guys give me nothing to great questions. I thank you for it because it's hard to answer the questions that you're like WTF OMG this is the first time the I just had as my mother my late mother would say sit your skinny rusty black ass down I've been working nonstop she's to have was 86 do the right thing is going to be 31 years old This coming June 30th. The film was released the same day as Tim Burton's Batman. I was between feature films, feature documentaries, short films for Michael Jackson, Prince, Public Enemy, Miles Davis, Anita Baker, you know, a whole bunch of people.

And then being married 26 years, my beautiful wife, Tanya, two kids, grown kids, this pandemic both you know there's two of them mm-hmm oh I know me yeah like

sit the fuck down and be still stop the ripping and running here and ripping running here my family we were you know I just went out

the first two months just to take out the garbage sometimes you just got to do that now it's loosening up now it's loose up, you know, ride my bike, spend a lot of demonstrations. But I had

to be still, because I wanted to live. And I don't want to do nothing. It's going to, you know, put my family in jeopardy. And when you're just there, you think your mind, and maybe

you, maybe everybody, some other you beautiful people might have felt this way too. My mind was not racing. And it was like, I'm taking And it's one motherfucking day in a motherfucking time. One day at a time. Not trying to plan out with us.

I said, we don't know when it's just going to change, whatever. I'm just going to be still. And I've been a lot of reflection. I thought about my brother Chris who died, not recently, but he was a brother right under me. You know, he had an addiction. I thought of my mother who died of liver cancer. You saw a crooklyn.

My mother died when she was 41 years old. you know, when out of a sophomore in Morehouse. So I've had time to think about it's not just all, you know, dark stuff, but I've had a lot of time to reflect the good and bad, which I think has been very beneficial

to my growth because I just had to sit the fuck down. Hey, man. I'm trying to be like, you know, like Mr. No, that's real. No, that's real. That's real. Even in the beginning when you were saying, you know, like I'm 63 years old,

like me and my wife, we've been talking about that about how you've always been someone who, A, your output has always been very prolific. And so you've always like every year or at least every other year, we know Spike got something coming. And then on top of that, your subject matter is always timely to what's going on. So it's easy to forget because you're always so current. Like you say, it's easy to get me like, yo, this cat been doing this. shit for 40 years. You know what I mean?

You know what I mean? You know, the people we want to freeze. Just like, state it. Right. But if I could just say this, and this is because I got to go, but I want to thank you guys. But also, another thing I left out. I've been thinking about, I was going to the first time ever, I'm thinking about my own mortality. Death has been around us.

Around me. People have died left and right. And it really, you know, maybe think about, you know, like, I'm not going to be the fuck here forever, you know? And I know it's a cliche, but you know what makes a cliche that more times than not it's the truth. Bullshit doesn't become a cliche. Truth does, in my opinion. And we got to enjoy what we got.

Because no one knows when that last breath. is we're going to take. And nothing is reaffirmed that. I mean, you hear that, you hear that, you hear that, yeah, that's a bullse that will live forever. But living through New York City in this epicenter, that change is like, I thought, nah, that shit is real. You got to, we got to enjoy this shit while you're here.

Because this was a motherfucking epicenter. New York City, people dying. left and right. Feuderal homes have motherfucking U-Haul trucks. They're unrefrigerated. People have to call the cops because

Bali fluid and just a stench is like, it's been crazy. Oh, that's the shit. You don't see them? Like I live in Fort Green, not right next to a broken hospital.

And you see the refrigeration trucks they had. They're gone now. Yeah. But they had to bring in refrigeration trucks to keep the course of the dead bodies you're on ice.

Yeah. And the last thing, my brother would sing you out because I want to let you know that I love you and it's love, love, love. And I think that this is time in history that we're living through is going to reduce

great albums, great plays, great movies, great documentaries, great art is going to come out of this historic moment we're living there. I believe in my heart. Amen.

That for me, what makes artists great is a God-given gift. And that God-given gift is a connection between the heart and the mind. And you watch just to me cold, because the matter of the

the horrible things have happened. Great art is going to comment on this period we lived through. Thank you. Amen. Thank you very much, Spike Lee. Thank you, Spike. Thank you, thank you for your art, man. Yes.

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This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits, teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make. to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode.

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