The Questlove Show - The Questlove Supreme Reunion Finale Part 2

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

Part 2 of the Questlove Supreme Reunion Finale is a celebration of growth, gratitude, and the evolution of Team Supreme. The cohosts reflect on a decade of conversations, chemistry, and collaboration.... Suga Steve serenades the crew with a heartfelt karaoke tribute. Phonte opens up about stepping away from recent episodes. Laiya explains how her radio roots helped shape and inform QLS shortly after it launched. Unpaid Bill shares his journey from guest to cohost, and Questlove speaks candidly about the challenges of working closely with friends. This is a joyful farewell to an award-winning squad whose voices, stories, and laughs helped make QLS one of its era's most unique and enduring podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-heart podcast. Guaranteed human. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits,
Starting point is 00:00:13 my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, the Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
Starting point is 00:00:28 So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you
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Starting point is 00:01:18 When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves.
Starting point is 00:01:33 We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everyone, I'm Ego Wood. My next guest, it's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever. He goes, just give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:02:00 But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio. Hey, this is Shiggin' Steve from Questlove Supreme. And on behalf of Team Supreme, what is this? Thanks for being a part of this with us. Oh, my God. We love you. Is this?
Starting point is 00:02:51 Ian? Oh, see. Holy shit. Oh, my God, me. Let's fucking go. Are you my friend? Oh, my. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Oh, my God. To me Oh my God, Steven! I'm so proud of you. Fonte. It's okay to sing along, y'all. Okay. You used to be my winterships were down.
Starting point is 00:03:25 He used to be my win the car. I want to ride around. Are we doing the bridge, too? Seems like it. Girl, can't you see how I feel? How do you know this? I don't even. I don't know the song.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Go ahead. To be a shake that boy. Oh, girl, can't you see? I need you. I'm going to cry. I can't believe he did this. Wow, man.
Starting point is 00:04:00 You are blacker than I've ever thought. Wait, the ass, too? Oh, my God. Sweet. Aia. You are my friend. With this, with the new verb. You are my friend, Fonte.
Starting point is 00:04:17 My problem, absolutely. Happy poro to unpaid will show. You are a lot. Thank you, Quest Love for this magical journey. You used to be my... That felt like I'm at my funeral. Oh my God, I'm here! Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:04:40 You used to be running hard. Wait a minute, I have so many questions. No technical questions. How did you get the instrumental? The internet. Be present, beginning. Who engineered this? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Erica. I'm gonna shake my ponytail off. Wait, are we getting the Riggie bell part? I got a no. Are we getting the Riggie bell first? What's so much working, I can hear it. Here we go. Come on, come on.
Starting point is 00:05:45 This was gonna happen, but she never told me when. Who is this? What is this? Who is this guy? Fonte has an infamous saying that he says occasionally in Questlove's Supreme episodes, which is from downtown. Steve, that was the long tenure from downtown. I thought it was just going to be like 10 seconds long.
Starting point is 00:06:58 No, he committed to the piece. He committed. You got to commit. The harmonies. So when we get in the student Steve R&B album on JMI? Yeah. It was between that and On the Wings of Love. I didn't even think you liked.
Starting point is 00:07:09 R&B. Like that's the crazy. He likes R&B. He likes A lot. I mean, that's black, but it's No, but this was a choice. This is a new edition, not. This was a choice. This was a choice. Okay. That was the greatest thing you've ever done. Wow. The weird thing was, I thought, in my mind,
Starting point is 00:07:25 you brought up the Rizza. I wanted this to be our opening song. This was way better. Oh my God, Steve. No, Steve. That was, I was on that take. The length of the song, the century. A couple times through.
Starting point is 00:07:41 What did you imagine your mind that he had to study all the adlips and all the lyrics? Because you ain't know the lyrics. No, I know that joint. Did you? He was a new address. Where's you recorded it? Where did it? It's that 30 rock the other day.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Oh, that's. Nah, man. That was touching, Steve. That kind of, you know. I'd like to communicate in song. Hey, bro. We received. We receive it.
Starting point is 00:08:02 We receive it. Brittany reminded me of some honorable mentions that you had asked a question about. And I just wanted to mention these real quick because I feel like they might touch your soul. on the answer to the real question of the hardest booking, I have it because you've never heard the episode. Which is? Dave Chappelle. Because we're still waiting for him to sign that paperwork.
Starting point is 00:08:21 It caused a riff between he and I, unbeknownst to him. He didn't give a buck for three years. The riff is still going on. I'm like, oh wow, I thought y'all made, but y'all made up came back. I mean, we're cordial. I mean, the thing is, is that this is also the quasi-eleph in the room. Like, yes, there's the risk that if you're doing business with your loved ones or your friends that
Starting point is 00:08:40 the script will get lost miscommunication happens or whatever like in the case of Dave I don't know why he wanted to pull the episode I thought it was... Oh I do because he got beer drunk and he thought they thought that he didn't sound coherent because... I thought it was an awesome episode. It was dope. We was just in there chopping it up.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Shout out to Corey Blacksmith fucking it up. I don't care. Oh and then also... Wait, did they get to hear it? Yeah, I think... Birding all the bridges. I believe... No, they're not bird.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Bring it. No, no, no, no, no. They're good. This is just a historical. We have to tell the truth. You won't hear this episode. So go. That part.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And then also another uncomfortable guest situation must be brought up because Amir, I know you with me on this one. Who? Snoop's house where Fonte, was it Bill or Steve was living a different life than me and a mirror on the other side of the table. Do you remember this? I was not there. Oh. Okay, then it was Steve and Fonte living a different life on one side.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And you and I were living a totally separate thing. I think that was like his guy kept trying to wrap it up. All I remember was I couldn't get into the Snoop episode because I guess they were just under the impression that it was going to be like a quickie 20-minute thing and didn't know the depths that we went into it. And Fonte just kept shooting from the half court. And we couldn't signal him.
Starting point is 00:09:57 All the way over at the other side. Remember that time you did that record with this person? That was cool. Yeah, and he kept going. As long as Snoop was having a good time, I was like, if he had a good time, shit, I'm going. Fonte would ask a question and then Snoop Brought, like, gave us
Starting point is 00:10:10 another, like, three minutes. But he just kept asking, I guess Laya and I just kept trying to... But his boy kept getting closer to me and a mirror, like, I know y'all see me standing here, like, wrap this shit up. And he had to bring me... I had old school radio flashbacks because I had to go outside
Starting point is 00:10:26 and talk to that, brother, and be like, yo son. While the interview was happening? Yes. Because I was like, you on us. And I can't... I'm supposed to be doing this and you right here. Look at them toes. I wish But Snoop's house is really fun though
Starting point is 00:10:41 And we played a lot like kids And that was cool No that was awesome That was awesome show It was fun Like I wish we could have deep dove But it was such a panic to Keep him engaged
Starting point is 00:10:52 You know And so All right so there are some questions That our audience has for us The number one is How have we individually evolved Since QLS launched In 2016
Starting point is 00:11:06 How have we evolved in the last almost 10 years? Like professionally or personally? Well, because it's another podcast. I'm in therapy now. So that's a beautiful evolution. Amen. Me too. Yeah. You know, I guess I can tie this into, well, one, why we're doing this episode,
Starting point is 00:11:25 which was, I think back in 2015, you know, I took great pride in just working, working, working, working, working. Doing a whole bunch of shit doing the podcast, doing Phelan. DJing and that's when I was doing like Brooklyn Bowl heavy and you know I would do about maybe 16 DJ gigs a month I mean Roots were still doing shows and you know it was kind of at the beginning of the end of me scoring stuff I was scoring movies I thought that was going to be my entry into the world of you know movies or whatever and actually SummerSoul kind of first entered maybe in 2017 like a year later but
Starting point is 00:12:06 I never thought I would get tired or just like maybe I'm doing too much won't he do it and it's yeah and sometimes it's also like it costs and relationships like you have two full grown sons
Starting point is 00:12:22 you got kids and different spouses than you did when you first started this jorn or whatever I don't know I think maybe in the last four or five years that's where I was, where I was just like, I was living my dreams, but like coming home to the worst silence ever.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Like, nothing pains me. It's bad. It's too big. Alizando Quest. That's what the lyric was. Thank you. It's too big. We would be here all along because. I was bebopping that, John. And you've learned to accept your flowers.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I feel like that's a thing you've learned over these years that we've been doing this. That's that you know how to accept a compliment now like you never have before. Do you know how to shut up when it's given to you? Or that. Yes. But also, on the professional front,
Starting point is 00:13:14 I listened to four early episodes all last week. And I have to say that I think all of us have done a remarkable job in our interviewing skills. And I don't know what we are doing now will still apply to where we are in our lives. But I would like to actually say that, Yeah, I mean, there were some episodes that were chaotic. Of course, you know, Fonte's eye rolling at the small it episode.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah, bro. Classic. That shit was crazy. We had fun. It's not his favorite episode. I mean, it was fine. You know, it was cool. They were cool.
Starting point is 00:13:46 But, yeah, that shit was so funny. Shout on, I don't know what to do with him. Sorry. It was a special episode. I enjoyed it because it was just, you know, just hearing them scream on top of each other. But, yes, it was chaotic. That's funny. But I will say that in terms of,
Starting point is 00:14:02 interviewing and getting to know people and that sort of thing, that's what I felt that this platform had given me. And also, you know, the fact that choosing you guys... Shout out to Sean G. Because you can't be saying you chose me, y'all because John G called me. I was like, yo. I just showed up. But who said it to Sean G? I don't know. I thought it was Sean G. That was you? I mean, I'm a person too. Well, you thought you was just like, you arrived at the doorstop in a basket given to me by the fire department? With a note. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Like an assignment. Like, so take this. Good luck. No, but when Sean heard the pilot, he was just like, okay, there's a lot of inside talk here. You guys aren't explaining. You're talking over each other. You need someone experienced and, you know, high testosterone. You need a lady, a woman in here to put you guys in line.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And of course, you know. The third person I thought of was like it. Because let me tell you that person. I called Amir two years before he started this podcast when I had first heard Q-Tips podcast on Apple. And I was like, yo, we should do something like this? And do you know this fool said to me? You know what I'm like, yeah, I'm working on something.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And it took me two years. I don't know if I'm you, but what I let you know? You already know that y'all taught me this, that there's Ronald McDonald and then there's Ray Kroc. Yes, indeed. We have talked about him. We know that I am Ronald McDonald, no matter how you cut it. I know that in your eye rolling already, you know you always go to the Ray Crock first instead of Ron McDonald.
Starting point is 00:15:39 When I want Jay Z to do something, I don't go to Jay Z to ask him to do. I know who to ask to get him to be like, hey, you know what I mean? You should have da-da-da-da-da. That's just the name of the game. And by the way, that Sean G episode, also one of our sleepers, like a very good history-telling. Yes. A lot of game in that one. James Poyser episode.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was great. So, yeah, I will say that what I learned, especially like last year, and, you know, total transparency, we had a real talk last night at dinner as a family, as, as friends, without microphones and whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And basically, I felt like, especially with last year, there was a commonality with, where, you know, I had nine businesses open with nine. Imagine what it takes to run this and know that there's eight other this world. Like when I do my book shit, there's eight of this and the food shit, this shit, root stuff, movie stuff. And I realized probably last year that, yes, even though the businesses are up and running and thriving, but I'm also failing in the personal relationship department. one-on-one thing, which a lot of that is also just the reluctant leadership, which I had to work on.
Starting point is 00:17:05 A lot of it is also just not knowing how to communicate, which is, like, called for another therapist. I got two therapists. Ooh. No, for real. I had to get two therapists just to. Are any of your therapists of color? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yeah. I was asking. And so it's pretty much, like, I had to learn, especially for this platform, My decision, thought decision was also, the thought decision to kind of bring this to a close or land the plane was basically like what were my bottom, like what's my priority, set you on fire? Like, for me, the roots will always be my number one thing. Movies, I have a passion for doing that. Book writing's not so on fire. I'd rather be the book company and people write their shit just going down the list.
Starting point is 00:17:55 But this, as far as this is concerned, even though I love nerding out on meeting people, whatever, I just wasn't able to really give us the commitment that I felt it would deserve. And I felt like it was also putting a strain on us personally as people. And I love our camaraderie on and off the air. So that's my version of, like, landing the plane at least, as far this episode's concerned. So I had a lot of learning to do like last year as far as people are concerned. Yeah, I think we all did. I think back to the personal, the evolution question that I think one of the viewers asked.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I think for me, this definitely everything you said 100%, you know, we kind of watched from the sidelines, I guess, is like one of your homeboys becomes, you know, famous. You know what I mean? And so for me, I just always kind of gave that grace. of just understanding. It's like, listen, there's got to be a total mind-fucking. I've said this to you,
Starting point is 00:18:59 you know, it's got to be a mind-fuck to go from drumming on South Street to now you got Obama in your phone. You know what I mean? And that's,
Starting point is 00:19:06 and to go through that kind of trajectory in, you know, the amount of time did it happen. You know, I knew that was a lot. And so for me, because I do know, somebody that asked like why, you know, I left the show.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I only left, first time I left, it was because I was not, I was not, don't tell that fucking lie. He don't like that. He don't like that. I was not.
Starting point is 00:19:24 fucking cigarettes. I was on tour with my group Little Brother because we just came back with our first number one album, May Lord Watch, we were on tour. And I couldn't, you know, I couldn't I couldn't do both. It was just, you know, two times. You knew what I'm discovering now, that you can't do both. Yeah, you get, something's got to give. Or maybe you shouldn't. Yeah, you know, because it's going to, eventually
Starting point is 00:19:44 that neglect is going to show up in your product. You know what I mean? And so, you know what I mean? So, yeah, that was the first time. And then this last time, I think it was just kind of what you would say, it just kind of definitely felt like the show, I just saw like kind of where your career was going and what you're involved in. It was just like, yeah, I think it's time, you know, for me. It was time. I had my own work to do. And, you know, we was our 20th anniversary of foreign exchange period. So, you know, I was able to get Nick, you know, on. We, you know, were able to celebrate that. You know, we had a slew of releases from my label
Starting point is 00:20:16 and stuff last year. My son graduated high school and, like, went into college. Congratulations. Thank you, man. And, uh, And then, you know, at the end of the year, I lost my best friend, Big Milk, he died in September. So, you know, even if I had a state on, you know, it was still, I didn't have room for it. I just didn't have, like, because I had life shit that, you know, was happening. And, you know, it was the thing where I think we did a good job where I think we're all at now is that understand it's like, listen, man, everything ends. You just hope that in the best case scenario, you can sit and talk about it. and it doesn't have to end in chaos.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And I think that is the biggest part for me in terms of watching, you know, how I've seen certain entities end over my life. As anyone who's seen the LB doc, you know what I mean, who's lived it. I like that we're all at a place where we can all decide, like, hey, this is where it ends. We've told our story and our relationships are no less, you know, no less, not any less stronger or any, you know, any more love loss.
Starting point is 00:21:21 whatever um and that's what i'm most proud of and uh you know this has been an amazing journey man like over nine years like you know i mean you was joking earlier but it's them been divorces it's them being kids born it's them being like it's you know real shit that happened and uh you know outside of just the work that we do here like y'all are all like my friends like i love y'all man like straight like that you know i mean and so i love you too man thank you for that all you know and this whatever you know a lot of times me and like you talked about last night when you're doing times with friends, doing work with friends, you have to kind of stop sometimes and differentiate. It's like, okay, I know there's not a malicious bone in this person's body.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I know it's not malicious. So they're not being a shitty friend. They are just trying to navigate this business. And I have to give them that grace to say, okay, bro, you know what I'm saying? And it's not their fault that sometimes the business is shitty, but they still a good friend. Yeah, yeah, right. It's like, yeah, it's cool. And, you know, but, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:14 That took me a minute. Yeah. Okay. That took me a minute. See, my whole life has been a little. different, like doing radio in Philadelphia and going, being an advocate for you guys on my own. No, you never, nobody ever forced me to be an advocate for the roots, but it was just what I felt in my heart and in the music.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And going into Sean G's office at some point and being like, I want to work with y'all. I have to. I want to do something because it's just something more here, which that was like, that might have been 15 years ago. And fast forward to this being like the first time working with you guys. It's been an interesting journey. And separate, like Fonte said, like, I'm just getting to the point now where I can separate the friendship from the business. Because it's been a rocky road.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I think probably out of everybody sitting here, I've probably had a little bit of a more rockiest road, you know. Because you have the longest history. Like, you know. The longest history, this is my profession. Nobody else makes money off of doing this but me. So I came in here also, like, hoping to, you know, get their respect in that way because I'm the person that has been doing broadcasting for all of their career. and felt like I had to earn it in these eight years again. Like, I really had to earn it and make my way
Starting point is 00:23:25 and make my voice be heard and get in when you keep it in and not talk. Like, all the stuff that I've learned a long time ago, now I'm experiencing it with co-hosts who've never been taught it. So between that and, you know, just, again, separating the business from the friendship, last night was a real moment in that conversation, Fonte, where I really went, like, you know, Amir, he came through for me.
Starting point is 00:23:47 and I didn't really see it because it was all this other stuff going on with other people but when I needed him he came through for me when he first felt like this wasn't for him anymore he called me that day like I remember you called me when I was at Jeff's house and he was like I'm
Starting point is 00:24:03 and so for that I'm not going to get emotional but like no you're a little dude sick talk your shit this is the progress that I have made I have to make for me and no more other people saying like you're the shit you deserve to be here I don't seek that anymore now it's like
Starting point is 00:24:18 well let me just say in front of the world like you that I 100% appreciate you and love you for I know I don't want to just be a cry you join she got the cry man it's all good just let a cry it's fine
Starting point is 00:24:34 right it's important a win a win a win a win I don't care what I'm saying yep that's me clipper taylor the fourth you might have seen the skits the reactions my journey from basketball to college football or my career in sports media.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.
Starting point is 00:25:25 So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands. Oh, hell no, I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. from hidden traits teams look for
Starting point is 00:26:58 to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. What's up, everyone? I'm Ago Vodam. My next guest, you know from Stepbrothers, Anchorman, Saturday Night Live and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with him one day. And I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place they come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you. Which is really sweet.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. and he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. You said something when we talked that day when I was like, look, I don't know if I want to continue to do this. And you gave an analogy where it was like, you're right. I didn't think of it as, you know, we've been running this business as a corner store.
Starting point is 00:28:45 We talked about that. Right. We've always had corner store community kind of. You're a corporation now, my boy. Right. And we're basically Amazon now. Some CEO business. And unfortunately, it's like seven people run.
Starting point is 00:28:58 running all of Amazon. And some shit's been very shitty. And, you know, it's, it pains me when my friends are in pay. Because, like, all last year is where I just like, all right, take it a mirror. Like, you know, and most people in my position will get defensive, petty and all that shit. Friend, we're born on the same day. Like, I, right. And so, I'm not saying it lightly, like, this is probably the most important lesson that I've,
Starting point is 00:29:28 learning life. Wow. And I appreciate you for bringing that to me. Fonte, Laia, Bill. Damn, Bill, I'm just realizing now. I didn't even ask you, like, what you learned. Bill's in there, like, he's definitely in his love together. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:29:48 No, you know about me. I actually feel like you've learned. I have no business being here at all, and I think I learned the most, period. I was about to say you're the person that's always said, like, you've learned the most from this show. 100% well I thank you for joining the fray because you know back of you were a guest but not to digress let me pull it back go yes laia I absolutely 12,000% appreciate the work that you've done you teach me everything from communication that how to treat you as a person we've definitely
Starting point is 00:30:21 had our rifts and our tiffs and that hurt my feelings when you said that and I didn't Didn't realize that I said something out of line. And yeah, there's a lot on the editing floor, thank God. And I appreciate that. I was going to ask, how do you know when it's over? You know what I'm saying? Like, we talked about a little bit last night. But how do you know when it's time to end the thing?
Starting point is 00:30:48 You know, it's just, I think in 2024 is when, okay, so what I realized about me was working was my numb thing. That was my avoidance. And you only truly feel shit when you get to sit alone in silence and really, you know, understand it. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:13 kind of when the first business entity before this came to light was having issues, I was on my defensive joint, well, they don't know what he talking about, whatever. I'm doing 19 things a day. Never never going to be.
Starting point is 00:31:27 whatever. And then when it all, all two, 2024 was just a spiral after spiral after spiral to spiral to spiral. And so, you know, both coaches, therapists were basically like, sit with that and how did it feel when the person told you like you were being inconsiderative, or that you're not a good listener or you're not a good communicator or that sort of thing? And, you know, and I had to sit with it. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:59 I think what I did in 2024 was pretty much I started to, I did less numbing things and found my humanity or learn how to feel. And that's when, and I joked yesterday. I'm a real boy. I'm a real boy. But that's the truth. And I joked yesterday at dinner and I was like, yo, the thing that scares me the most was like, I didn't know how much I like sleeping. So good. I don't know which one is better sleeping or eating.
Starting point is 00:32:29 But if you're sleeping, you don't have to eat. You're not gaining any weight, so I think it's sleeping. I'd rather sleep, which, you know, and I feel like even that's a part of the process of not being hyper aware of like, oh, I should be learning 10 songs right now for the next DJ gig I do seven months from now. Or let me play on the Roots picnic. And I was that eight month ahead, two year ahead person. Instead of being present. And I hate the fact. I hate the fact that like 2016, the administration that we're dealing with now, especially right now, has literally taught me how to live in the present.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Like, unfortunately, I said, like, I want to learn out of living in the present. So it's almost like me putting out to the universe, hey, like, okay. That's exactly what happened. So now that's all we can do. We're literally now, like, 24 hours a day, I have to go through the same affirmation process. this morning got up at 8 o'clock in the morning had to literally living and present every day. So, I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:33 that's... Yeah, man. And it's... And this... And I mean, I hope people, like, when they listen to this, I hope they take away, you know. I'm so thankful that we had a chance to bring this to the world and, like, bring joy to so many people and, you know, they enjoy the show and everything, but we are literally figuring
Starting point is 00:33:49 this shit out on the fly, you know what I mean? Like, even with, you know, when you said, Laia, like, you had the radio experience. But coming into this is like, it's a totally different thing. I mean, a lot of it does apply, but it's still, it's a different landscape. I'm not even used to people wanting to hear you talk for more than two minutes. Right, right, yeah, because radio is, you know, so, yeah, and so it's a big difference.
Starting point is 00:34:09 And, you know, I think, you know, and listen to your story, you know, I kind of saw a lot of things just kind of from the back, you know, just watching how you navigated thing and, you know, navigating and just doing directed and fowling and all of this. And I think it was one of the biggest lessons I learned was just kind of seeing the difference between, you know, management versus leadership. And when you talk about leadership, management is just kind of just kind of cattle call. You're just kind of just, you know, a task master. But leadership speaks more to people's personal development. And that's where the personal relationships come in.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Like if I know that Bill likes this or I think, I was like, hey, man, I think you'll be good in this role. Let me get you over here. It speaks to that. But you really have to have those conversations with your people in order to know that. And, you know, that was one of the biggest things I saw. And just kind of y'all's, I guess, you know, you say from mom and pop to Amazon. That was one of the things you kind of got to have as a leader.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And you talk about being a reluctant leader, I get it. You know what I'm saying? It's certainly things that I've struggled with, certainly things that I, you know, I just want to make music. And just, you know, you just want to do the thing. But there's doing the thing. But then you got to be the guy. Like you said, like Ronald versus Ray Kroc is like, you know, I just want to cook burgers, dog. That's all I love to do.
Starting point is 00:35:25 But now I got to go be the guy. guy to sell the burgers, you know what I mean? And, yeah, and it just gets to a point which is like, yeah, I'm tired of that shit. I don't want to make burgers. Let me also, let's give gratitude to the team that also helps us run things. It goes without saying, you know, with Brittany and cousin Jake. Thank you very much for your keeping the train. Patience and contributions.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Immaculate notes I know Immaculate notes I mean he is a writer He's a writer Man listen Yes Come on
Starting point is 00:36:06 But also Many animators Who have made Our animation For our IG All the countless of engineers Who have edited
Starting point is 00:36:16 episodes and whatnot You too Steve Slitsky Carv Carvo Carvo behind the camera Yeah that's Carvel And even
Starting point is 00:36:25 A shout out to I heart thank you for making this our home. And our producers like the old and new from Scotty Riggs to Evan I was going to say All yeah
Starting point is 00:36:35 Open door Scottie Yeah let's go Yeah Scottie still pages us Yeah Scott If you recall
Starting point is 00:36:45 Scott was our only producer that you actually saw All the time And was on mic Right Yeah Scott Yale Was Yale a part of the
Starting point is 00:36:54 He had a mic too Yeah Yeah a mic a little bit For Chris Rock or Q-Tip. Scott Yane. Also, responds to text messages within seconds. Well, Scott Yer is a great text. If you are a woman who are texting Scott Riggs and he don't hit you back quick, he don't fuck the out of that.
Starting point is 00:37:12 He don't like you. Or he will like your Instagram post immediately. Oh, and also, since you're doing this, can we just have a moment for the great studios that we've been in, I mean, we start in the East Coast. And we, I mean, from Reservoir. Oh, my God, Reservoir. Reservoir. Electric Lady. Henson. Renaissance. Sunset.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I mean, Steve, and remember, initially our first L.A. trip, these were handpicked by Steve. A lot of them were handpicked. Like, Steve was like, can we go here? Can we go there? We recorded in Capitol Records. Capital? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:42 The Frank Sinatra room. Yes. Sunset Sound. Yeah. Sunset. The Prince Beaver Room at Sunset Sound. Oh, where did they do the bad album where we went to Bubbles's nursery? Westlake.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Westlake. I forgot about Westlake. Westlake studio where they still had Michael Jackson's nursery for bubbles in his crib. In the few home recordings, because I can only remember Jimmy Jam, Linda Perry. Linda Perry. Yeah, Linda Perry was dope. And Quincy. Sorry, y'all.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Shout out to Noel Brown and Brian Calhoun. Yeah, right. Yeah, Brian. The unbothered Brian Calhoun. I know. He missed his last episode. Hello. So unbothered I didn't bother to show up
Starting point is 00:38:27 You shout the cow hole, man You know, we've been We've been rather diplomatic in terms of not letting Family grievances or business out there like that Oh yeah So I will respectfully Oh, here you come No, I will respectfully
Starting point is 00:38:52 give Boss Bill a shout out. Absolutely. Because, you know. Without him, I wouldn't be here. Yeah, I mean. Because, oh, yeah. He's part of the foundation. Bring them tapes back.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Send them to me. Send them in. Yeah. We'll send you a self-addressed stamped envelope. I'll give you that fair X number. I also learned that, you know, it's a clear.
Starting point is 00:39:22 clean slate and when you hold strife in hold you guys to kill you from the inside of yes that's the important thing that's the important thing like and I know we live now and I told you so I never thought the tigers were eating my face time
Starting point is 00:39:40 I told you yeah and redemption and you know is is key but you know um we'll do a reunion episode 10 years you didn't I mean, you got through one fan question. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:39:56 somebody asked something about what is, elaborate on a statement, witness protection, Jam and Lewis, been super curious about that since it was said. When you say witness protection program, that was the name of the me,
Starting point is 00:40:09 Bilal, Glasper, like our, yeah, boom business, like our fake group name called the witness protection program. But,
Starting point is 00:40:19 um, is there another question? What was a, what was a, what was a, conversation for everybody. Just answered us. What was an interview that we did that was really hard for you to get through?
Starting point is 00:40:28 Faith Newman? Oh, y'all going to say Faith. Besides Faith Newman? Let me see. I wouldn't say Frankie Beverly, that wasn't hard to get through. It wasn't hard. You know what I mean? But it definitely, that was another thing, too.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Roy Ayers. Roy Ayers. We learned, you learn patience, you know what I'm saying? Because, like you said, with radio, it's like, just give me the quick 30-second sound bite. But, you know, with this one, you know, we really sitting with the masters and the elders, you know what I mean? And so you have to give them space to tell their story. They may remember some stuff. They might not.
Starting point is 00:41:02 It may start one place and go so. Yeah, Roy Ayers was like, oh, wow. It made us all more conscious in that way when we were dealing with our elders. Even when we dealt with Wayne Shorter, like I noticed everybody kind of figured out, okay. Right. Yeah, let it breathe. That part I didn't know about the game, like the selective memory part or the, you know, You know, just...
Starting point is 00:41:22 Did you forget what you were going to say just now? Exactly. What about your one-on-ones? What was the most difficult one-on-one for you? They weren't difficult. Actually, you know, I had a lot of fear. Was my first one, Willow? No.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Michelle Obama, maybe? Michelle Obama. Oh, you love Michelle. You did Fallon by yourself. Oh, yeah, that was the first one. See, I don't... I forgot about the Michelle Obama episode. It was like 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:41:46 It was a quick, yeah. Yeah, that really didn't count. Your Dre, your Andre? Steve. Owen. Steve Faroon was great. I just, the inside joke of me, us never being in the same room because
Starting point is 00:41:59 of course, the story is that I went to Madison Square Garden to watch him drum in person finally and I took a bunch of adult fruit chews. Can we talk about that night for one second? Yeah. Because I was there
Starting point is 00:42:15 and that was one of the craziest experiences as a musician I've ever seen my life. We were in your car thing. and you were making charts of John Mayer tunes as we drove to Madison's Ware Garden. And learning the songs. And learning the songs the same time. And then you went on and just crushed it for what was supposed to be what?
Starting point is 00:42:30 Like two songs? And you played the whole set, I think. Well, initially it was like the whole show. And I was like, there's no way I can learn all this. So he came up with the 11th hour idea of just, let me unplug the first nine songs. And then Amir comes in and play the second half. And the thing was, I took the adult fruit chews.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I remember. Way before. It's been legalized since we started the show. I know, but I like calling it adult fruit juice. Yes, that was when I was a newly microdoser of mushrooms. And so. Yeah. You say what that ain't least.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Adult fruit tree. I'm sorry, Steve. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, so I took them and then Pino's like, By the race. Peron tested positive. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Can you drum? And I was like, ah? So not, I mean, I wasn't out of my mind, but I was definitely stimulated. And I don't know. You and John Mayer come through for each other because this is a call back to a Root. A QLS, a picnic where him and Dave Chappelle came in on a clinch for you because it was the D'Angelo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Cursed. That was, that was a special day. Man. For all of us, that was the first. we also did a whole round of interview all day. And the freestyle. Oh, right. Yo.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Anyway, we talked about that. What a J. Yo, okay, I got a question for everybody, too. Okay, who do you wish we would have just got on before we ended this thing? I'm going to start it. God damn, Anderson. God damn it. God damn it, I wanted him so bad.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I wanted him so bad. I hate to tell you this. What? Ah, boy. Oh, what did you do? What did you do? What did you do? No, I finally.
Starting point is 00:44:20 connected with Debbie Allen. Motherfucker! Motherfucker! No, I met her. How did I meet her? She was my other person, by the way. I randomly saw, oh boy. Norm Nixon? It's not Questlove Supreme
Starting point is 00:44:33 Episode unless I do $25,000 pyramid. Director, Beef with Dame Dash, director. Oh, Lee Daniels. Thank you. I am. Okay, got you. All right. There you go. 25,000 dollars. No, I saw him at the, was it, the Dengela Fella
Starting point is 00:44:49 join? I saw him, she was his plus one. Oh, that's cute. And I thought I was introducing myself. And she's like, child, I know you are. And I was like, ah! I didn't send her like three, so yeah. Dang.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Yeah, we didn't get Latifah. I really wanted to get Latifah. Angelo Wimbish was another one that I really. Really? Yeah, man. After talking to Saida. Man. Yeah, so yeah, Angela Wembach was that way.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Did I ever tell you about the Fife funeral? Apparently not. The thing is, it's like a funeral. I don't think one should hold the same standards of performance excellence. Yeah, because you're bandaging emotions. You're holding in the... Right, and the thing was, I was just told last minute, like, yo, can you play Angel real quick?
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yeah, we can play that. So, F5, Cerey, it was at The Apollo. Okay. And I guess the default band was me, DeAngelo, James Poyser, the rest of the roots, I guess. So we did some shit with Dee. It came off. We did another song.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I forget it what it was. And then someone yelled like, Angel Williams wants to do Angel. Dee's always like the king of, I won't say what would be modern liquor house classics, like things that only. He know him. Certain black households would know.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Like, you know, flirt by cameo or like. Right, right, right, right. Yeah. Your uncle plays in the cassette. No, so we played with her. But, I mean, always the moment where a singer is singing, especially without rehearsal,
Starting point is 00:46:25 the one thing I'm trying to control is to keep them from turning back. You never want that. And, oh, God, she got me at, like, and then, like, he's not playing it right. You missed a hit. Oh, wow. We're a feeling right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:45 She's like, hey, my song is my song. And, I mean, y'all supposed to be the best of ever done it. Right, right. Yeah, I, I, that, I immediately left after that because that was, what was, yeah, her, uh, Stevie. Uh, Stevie. Yeah, oh, yeah. No, me, Steve. Yeah, people did, yeah, that was, Courtney. Yeah, we got close, we got really close, really close. We did? Yeah, we did. We did, we did, years ago. His name was, wow. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what's up. Just like we got close with Grace Jones. I mean, she was, you know, yeah, she was like as long, if you want ever come to London, I wish she lived London or Paris.
Starting point is 00:47:20 They were like, have you ever come? Pull up. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits,
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Starting point is 00:47:47 unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream,
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Starting point is 00:50:15 It's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day. And I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:50:43 He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah. It would not be. Right. It wouldn't be that.
Starting point is 00:51:04 There's a lot of luck. Listen to thanks, Dad, on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. All right. What about y'all? Y'all, give all your people. Who you guys do? So you're thinking. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:21 We didn't do Sesame Street. We're supposed to do them, Big Bird, and them. Were we actually supposed to interview the Muppets Asked themselves? Yeah, we was trying to do. That was floated at some point, yeah, for sure. Do you think that would have came off? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:51:35 I don't know. So my experience of doing that show was that when they would yell cut, they would still talk in that Muppet voice for like a long time. It doesn't really end ever. Yeah, and even when I talk to them, they talk in that character voice.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And I was like, wait, the cameras to stop rolling. Why are you still talking to me, Grover? You had a whole Grover bit. That was a good day. You know, they showed, I went to the Nets game on Sunday, and they chose that as their bit. You know, like, who's sitting in the audience? They went to that.
Starting point is 00:52:14 It was a rather random choice. Oh, wait, I'm sorry, somebody asked a really good question for Bill. Can I ask this real quick? Yes. It says, Bill, on video, you're a really active listener, even when you weren't asking questions or talking much. Can you speak about knowing when to jump in as a personality as opposed to when others drive the discussion?
Starting point is 00:52:32 Thanks a lot, ask you. Basically. When everyone has got the amount of the space bill. I think one of the greatest lessons I've learned being on the show is when to shut the fuck up. And I think that that's a very important lesson that anyone should know. And I say that because I feel like
Starting point is 00:52:49 my touchstones of race and culture and life and everything have sort of moved around a lot since I've been a part of this and I think that I've learned so much just by sitting near you guys and listening to you talk and like, you know, I'd like to say that growing up as a white kid on Long Island
Starting point is 00:53:10 you don't really get the sort of like House of Prayers and all that fucking nonsense. House of prayers. And so it's been I think years from now if I look back on this it will be, first of all, it's one of my favorite things to talk about. And I have a lot of crazy things in my life, but this is definitely one of the top two.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And so I think years from now, I look back and just be like, that was the fucking craziest shit ever. Like, just for all those who may or may not remember, like, Amir, Lynn called me and said, the roots are going to produce the Hamilton record with you. I was like, great. That's a thing.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Okay, I was terrified. And then you walked in, and then I said Sesame Street, and you said, holy shit. And then you called me on a Tuesday, and you said, hey, what are you doing tomorrow? And I said, I don't know, what am I doing tomorrow? And you said, do you want to be the first guest on my podcast?
Starting point is 00:53:58 And I said, oh, clearly someone canceled. Cool. Yeah, sure. I'm totally fucking there. And then my life's been so fucking weird ever since that day. And then I, and then, I don't you remember that? It went on for like six hours. I thought it was going to be there for like 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:54:11 And then he called me the week after. He goes, listen, we can't pay you anything, but just keep showing up. And I was like, okay. And I've just kept showing up. And that's my entire. That's here we are. That was 10 years ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:25 No, even working with you, man, that was, I had a new respect for musicals because I had never... What else have y'all done together? Oh.
Starting point is 00:54:31 A lot, right? Shit a gangloader says me. So we did... I was hiking boot in a rap battle. That's right. Yeah, I was in the Elmo rap battles. I was a hiking boot. Then there was another one...
Starting point is 00:54:40 You're an authentic Muppet. Your voice. Yeah. Nice. I was a hiking boot. I was a rapping banana. I've been... What was the banana?
Starting point is 00:54:51 Like, What are you saying? It was, what was my banana bars? Which is use? Because I was like, my whole thing, I was like,
Starting point is 00:54:58 I wanted it, it was like a Jeezy tribute. So I was like, wouldn't it be funny if it was like a trapping banana? So he was, God, what was my,
Starting point is 00:55:06 what was my bars? It was so good. Did he have an adlib? Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, I was doing the whole jeezing thing. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:13 shout to Jeezie. It was funny. But, yeah, man. So we did that. And stay tuned. There's an original. It'll be out by the time. Fonte.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Yeah. I think he's out. Fonte wrote a song for Cizza that's on Sesame Street that he fucking killed. Yeah, man. Shouts for my production partner, Zoh, man. That joint was crazy. That was another call. So kind of like how you got on this show, I get a call from Bill Sherman or text.
Starting point is 00:55:33 He's like, hey, man. So if I needed a Cizzer song in 24 hours, you think you and so y'all can pull that off. I'm like, I said, it's only one way to find out. Like, send me what you got. And he sent me like a little script, like a little, you know, kind of blur or whatever. and we turn around and you know normally a lot of that stuff man you don't know if it's gonna go I'm like
Starting point is 00:55:54 I think this will work this feels good to us but you know who knows and her people she came back and she was like your best song ever like we you know she loved it she did a great job you know what I'm saying that John was amazing man so yeah okay okay one one okay this is I'm gonna remix this question that you asked this one
Starting point is 00:56:11 yes one follow question okay go ahead it's a Steve question but go ahead what is the future of Sesame Street well we start shooting in two weeks season So even though there was some shakeup amongst the corporate business, I think they don't have a distribution partner quite yet, but we are making new episodes in a couple weeks. Okay, so you're moving on Faith. Faith. Faith Newman. We're moving on. There you go. I forgot about that. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Okay, Steve, I know you didn't want the direct question, but I do want to know the answer to this. Somebody asked, was the roots the first hip-hop act you ever worked with as an engineer? The question is, who was the first person that you ever worked with as an engineer? And can you speak to what made you in a mirror click because this relationship started as one thing? And now it is 25 years later? Bacon. 30 years later. Excuse me. Bacon.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I'll answer the second part first. I knew you would like saying. I'm probably not going to answer the first part. You don't know your first client was? It's irrelevant to what we're talking about. It led to a better question. Well, I was randomly assigned as an assistant engineer to the voodoo record after the first two or three assistant engineers died.
Starting point is 00:57:22 I fail out. That's a lot of fun of it. And as far as what we bonded over, I think I've always pointed to the fact that we were both bringing different things to the table with regards to musical tastes. But there was some crossover, and I always point to Pet Sounds
Starting point is 00:57:41 as the crossover thing that we both kind of obsessed over for a long time and just everything since. You know, I think maybe out of all of us, because of the length of time, that I've been working with him have learned the most with regards to music that I didn't know about before I met him. I had some, I have the same experience with black music,
Starting point is 00:58:07 essentially that Amir had with white music, which was we heard what was on the radio, which was kind of the most mediocre stuff, you know, when it comes down to it. So we all, we kind of share that love for, I guess, kitsy, poppy stuff from the 80s, as evident. by your wonderful rendition of Is This the End? Come on now.
Starting point is 00:58:27 You have to have that as a standalone. I feel like to release that somewhere. You just put it on SoundCloud or whatever. Well, my love for what you keep calling, I guess, black yacht rock is... Yeah, you said white music. I'm like, that's just music these days. That's what they do. We black music.
Starting point is 00:58:44 They just, y'all music. We just music. And shout out to the Jeffrey Osborne episode while we were there. Yeah. I learned a lot from that episode. All right, so before we wrap, is there an artist that you had a positive experience with that you didn't expect would be good? Not to be good. Okay, I will start by saying, and I still maintain if we had to put a top 10 list of all-time episodes, the way we laughed during the Family Stand episode.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Damn, I forgot about that. Oh, my girl. And she was... Wait, you weren't there for all that ratches in it? I was on tour for that one. That was Reservoir, too. It was Family Stand. So it was Sandra St. Victor, was she...
Starting point is 00:59:31 All three. All three. All right. All right. Sandra Peter. Yeah, okay, wow. If there ever was a... I don't mean a got-you-journalist episode,
Starting point is 00:59:38 but it was almost like them as the interviewers were, you know, I was trying to be whatever. Like the amount of probably why we didn't get Miss Rohn? Oh. Well, we did. That was one. She said, yes, you're her and Susan DePas
Starting point is 00:59:56 They were all to get married There was a lot of smoke For Atlantic records I gotta go back and listen Yeah, because they did And electric records, yeah I gotta go back and listen to that one It's a master, like
Starting point is 01:00:08 Compared to the Christmas episodes Which were always my funniest I was just about to say The Christmas, the 12 days of Fonte Like do you remember the fucking Christmas episode? Yes. So Gina Rodriguez episode Gino Rueger's episode
Starting point is 01:00:18 Duce Yeah, Duce All day. All day. than early, yeah, electric lady. To the point where I was like, next year I got to find my girl at work a duce. We need some move. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Right. So literally, I'll say the family stand probably holds up. Thanks, Tyler. Next to the Gina Christmas episode as, you know, where I laugh so hard that possibly had like a stomach cramp. Although Amir, I will counter that. And I'm sorry, Fonte, this is another one you miss. But I feel like we died laughing in this room, small room. Johnny Gill was pretty goddamn fun.
Starting point is 01:00:52 That one was great. I hate I missed that way. I mean, busing sections. Bus and session. Oh, this is not going to sound right, but Luther Vandross. Let me just stop. Then playing the dozens. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's what I'm in. I go. Yes. Then playing the dozens. I got you.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I don't remember what the question is, but I want to bring up some of the. Well, what guests surprised you? I didn't expect the Family Stand episode. The politicians that we interviewed. Clinton. No. Clinton was awesome. In Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Oh, Stacey Abrams. St. Abrams. And a lot of the journalists. Stephanie Roole. Roan and Farrell, yeah. And me and him exchanged gamer tags on PS5. What? That me and Rona, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Word. We ain't like linked up or nothing, but we exchange gamers. Yo, I got to bring up a guest that I know may y'all feel kind of crazy, but I bonded with her so well. May she forever rest in peace, Allie Willis? Oh, yeah. Can she, I mean, the fact that she invited me over her house multiple. times and we just kikied and
Starting point is 01:01:53 she gave me a tour of all of that black kits. She's got a bobblehead of you now. Dave, you might be right, Steve. Happy over there smoking out of watermelon papers and drinking coat 45. The fact that we found out that she was part of
Starting point is 01:02:09 Just Come Running to Me. Right, right. Yeah, by accident. That was crazy. Is there any other guests that like... Steve Miller? Steve Miller was on. Him inventing the in-ear. Yeah. And using FM radio.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Michael McDonald's, Bootsie Collins. Michael McDonald's. Ferguson, South St. Louis. Yes, Michael McDonald was pretty awesome. And so was Hoody. Darius Rock. I was going to say. Yeah, Hoody really was greater than I would have been.
Starting point is 01:02:37 So what I would say to our listeners is, and the prime reason, and much of the chagrin of the publicists that would have their guest on, like, our show was always a retrospect of a career and a journey. less about, not just the project right now. Yeah. Which is why I feel as though
Starting point is 01:02:55 these episodes will still be timeless. Yeah, it's evergreen because it's history. In the future. And I know he was loud, but y'all, Billy Porter changed life. I don't care. Oh, he totally told you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:06 So speaking of people listening to these episodes into the future, which I assume they're all going to be available, just want to point to our wiki page, which was recently updated and made nice with the help of Jake by a friend Thank you, cousin Jake. And Dorothy Howard,
Starting point is 01:03:24 who's... And Dorothy Howard. A Wikipedia, who's helped out greatly with the page. So all the shows are listed now, and eventually there'll be links that'll take you directly from the wiki page. Man, we're gonna reach out to you for that,
Starting point is 01:03:35 dog. We're getting the treatment. Yeah. All right, so let me just say this. So, Steve, I want to thank you for really planting the seed that this could be done, because as much as we joked back in 2000, 2001, 2002,
Starting point is 01:03:54 listen to studio rats and all your little side projects and whatever. It's one thing to talk about it, but you're definitely a person who quietly will push me to do something that I didn't think was possible. And sometimes you know when it pushed me. A great example, end game. We'll talk about it later. There's still an end game?
Starting point is 01:04:14 Yes. Okay. It's at the end. Yeah. Is this the end? It's been 10 years in the right. Yeah, no, it's real. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:22 And this guy's... Leading the charge. Yes. In ways that I never imagined. Black Thought episode, one of the greatest of all times. Oh, yeah. But I will say, Steve, thank you for being the person that pushes me to do things. Fonte, you are the heart of this show.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Oh, man. Thank you, Ro. I think keeping it real has been so overused that it almost doesn't mean much anymore. But, you know, I think everyone will universally agree that all the episodes that you're on, that you provided... I'm thinking about all the times when you were looking at me for gosh your questions and Fonte will ask him. He was Fonte. That was Fonte's thing. The Celo episode is one of the greatest episodes.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I love that episode. And music soul, child. Oh, God. Music song. You can't open that door right now. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Fun times. Fun times. No, like, Fonte is with Bowley go where no quest level will go before. So what you're saying is. Let me get that straight. Your publicist told us that you don't want to talk about your relationship. So what's going on in your relationship? I mean, listen.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Hey, fuck it. Shoot a shoot. There you go. Yeah, shoot is going to shoot. I'm Dave Bill. Yeah. You were the stowaway of the crew and you, you know, you wrote with us, but thank you. you for consistently ride with us and
Starting point is 01:05:49 you know you definitely come through a clutch also with like your fandom and your fascination for guests that have come on the show and and Book and Lynn Manuel thank you. Yeah, yeah. I totally forgot he was on there's a lot of episodes I forgot about. Thank you on paper. And also
Starting point is 01:06:05 you know like my dream come true because I was you made fun in the fact that I still actively watch Sesame Street long after me. It is for children. Long after. Whatever it.
Starting point is 01:06:22 All right, Ray Crock, you got it. And, Laia, yes, you hold all of our feet to the fire. All the time. And our toes. What a call to that.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Toes, toes, toes, toes, toes. I don't even want to go after that. No, and everything I said, I absolutely meant, I love you all dearly. I love you. Tell me you. I love you one more time. Say it one more time.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Yes, I love you. Lai'e and St. Clair. It's all the reason we're here. And thank you, man. You know, we really, we appreciate this, like, seriously. Thank you. And your evolution. Look at you.
Starting point is 01:06:54 You all grown up now. Yeah, I'm growing and I'm scared to death to be growing. Whole new Questlove. On behalf of the entire staff that brings this to you, Brittany and Jake, all everyone behind. I heart and Brian and Sean and everyone that we mentioned, everyone who films our show, you who watch the show. Brittany, thank you very much. All the record reps, all the public.
Starting point is 01:07:17 that repeatedly came back, I just want to shout them out too. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Nicoletian, rap, a Big Pooh. Little Brother, we ever have Little Brother and Foreign Exchange on the show. Yes. And get your tickets to Little Brothers, our last tour. All right, any projects coming up, Bill? Steve, fucking raising kids.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Yeah. Follow me. Yeah, we got T-shirts coming out. That's important. All right, listen to the way we came in, y'all. Let's do it. Suprema, Supraima, Rocall. Supraima.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Suprema roll call. Supremia. You're going first, Laethe. Oh. Suprema, sub, subprima roll call. It's Laia. Yeah. And I believe it's time.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Yeah. For me to go? Yeah. No, for me to rhyme. Roll call. Nice. Suprema, Subrema, sub, subprima role call.
Starting point is 01:08:10 All right. Supremma. No, no. No. Superma roll call. I'm unpaid bill. Yeah. Was episode one.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Yeah. But I'm still here. Yeah. And now we're done. Roll call. And best. Suprema, SUSU, Supremia,
Starting point is 01:08:25 Rocahn. Supremia, Suprema, Suprema Roca My name was Sugar. Yeah. Big announcement to make. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:34 I'm starting my own show. Yeah. Where I just get baked. Rocah. Suprema, Supraima, Roca, Supraima,
Starting point is 01:08:44 Sub prima, Sub prima Role Call. My name is a, sub, sub, sub, My name is Fonte. Yeah. Y'all are my friends. Yeah. But our time on this show has come to an end.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Roll call. Supremia, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, Role Call. Supremma, Subremia, Role Call. Thank you to the people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:05 That's a great place to start. Yeah. And I love you all. Yeah. From the bottom of my eye heart. Roll call. Supriva, Subima,
Starting point is 01:09:13 Subrema, Subrema, Subima, Subrema, Supremma roll call Supremia So prima roll call Supremeoral
Starting point is 01:09:26 Thank you people Goodbye Hey what's up y'all It's Questleff here And finally After hearing that finale Part 2 episode I want to thank you all so much
Starting point is 01:09:45 I see how much you guys have loved and supported the shows throughout the years Especially on the socials And you've showed up for a Questlove Supreme time and time again. That's Steve's phone. What's up, Steve?
Starting point is 01:09:58 It's good. Anyway, basically, you know, this is the one time that I can freely speak for Maya Fonte on Playbill and Sugar. Can I speak for you? All right, well, anyway, I'm speaking for him. Truly want to thank you all for making QLS possible these past 10 seasons. And if you've been rocking with Questlove Supreme since the beginning or even if you just pulled up yesterday, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:24 It's been a labor of love. And it's been a space for music nerds, cultural heads, and curious minds to get deep into the stories behind the sound. And over the years, oh man, conversations we've had too many to mention, but so legendary. You know, we've had laughs and tangents and rabbit holes and deep dives and all those good things. But, you know, here's the thing. The greatest grooves always need to evolve. You know that. And we are pivoting.
Starting point is 01:10:56 So Questlove Supreme has reached its finale. But don't you worry. We're going to develop something fresh and different in the future. You'll soon know. Something a little different, something that still feeds the soul. But with just a new flavor to it. And I want to be clear, this is not entirely goodbye. We're just turning the page and figuring out what the next chapter of this podcast is going to be.
Starting point is 01:11:22 and it'll come soon. And I promise it's going to be worth the wait. It's going to happen right here. So stay tuned, stay curious, stay Supreme. All right. Thank you. Love you guys. You still going to pass?
Starting point is 01:11:44 Thank you for listening to Questlove Supreme. Hosted by Amir Kostov Thompson, Laius Sinclair, Fonte Coleman, Sugar Steve Mandel, an unpaid Bill Sherman. Executive producers are Amir Questlove Thompson, Sean G, and Brian Calhoun, produced by Brittany Benjamin, cousin Jake Payne, Elias St. Clair, edited by Alex Convoy, produced by IHeart by Noel Brown. Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio.
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