The Reel Rejects - A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 2: FREDDY'S REVENGE (1985) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

Episode Date: April 20, 2024

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I'm obsessed with you guys in the comments, although one thing you told us that this movie is going to be horrible. So I'm not sure how to feel about that. guess I hope that you guys are wrong for the first time in your lives. I hope so, too, because I just watched The Room, and that was the worst, greatest movie of all time, so I hope this doesn't surpass it, because the room is, it's at the bottom, and that was a blasterooney, so I'm hoping this one is too. Let's watch Nightmare on Elm Street, too. Yeah, you guys were right about that being not good.

It felt like this script. Oh, also, if you listen to this on... Apple or Spotify, give us a five-star rating. Por favor, we love you for that. It just felt like the script is all over the place. There's no explanation. Like, what does that mean with Freddie coming through the girl at the end? So now he's inherited her?

And when he dies, he never dies. No, he wasn't an inherit. Not inherit. He, he, he, uh, what, is he in her or is he alive through her now? behind her behind her coming through yeah I don't

wow I genuinely can't believe this script got made this way because that didn't make sense it really didn't you know what's so crazy is that we were about halfway through the movie

where I was like people were way too harsh on this there's a lot of cool things that are going on and there could be a lot of cool things they could do with this they're inability to stick the landing here

and by the landing I mean the last half of the movie where they just were doing things for cool factor but none of it was like true to the story or the characters or the villain that they had or freddie in general like i don't get why they did that they didn't have to do that there were so many cool things they could have done with the end of this movie great um especially because we were like conflicted about the jesse character which is cool yeah loved lisa we what about the damn what about the damn and the mom and the sister, no tie up there.

And, like, there were so many, they introduced characters that I was like, okay, this is interesting, let's move. And then they just moved on to someone new. Right. Like, between the coach and the best friend who was the friend of me, we're not going to deal with either of that. Like, what if, what if what ended up happening was after he killed his best friend, then they actually come inside and he gets sent to jail?

Right. Like something, and then he has to prove from in the, I don't know, I don't know. Yes, because I'm like, how are you walking out with bandages on your hands? It's what? The next day? Because that girl is still talking about the party and no, everyone's just like, yeah, just bandage yourself up. No problemos here. There's two people dead, right?

The kid actually, his buddy died, right? Greg. So why, how are we? Greg, and then the, the fucking P.E. It's the name of our homie Greg. Right. It was his name Greg. We just made that up.

I don't know. But like also the PE teacher guy died. He admitted to going like Schneider. Right. He admitted to killing them. And then what? He just gets to go right back to school and just bandaged up and like everything's fine. It's so weird.

Why did they do that, dude? Why did they do that? I feel so disappointed in this movie because they didn't have to do that. And the first half really had me like, okay, maybe you guys. maybe you guys were all wrong and then I was like no I gotta look up some things about this movie yeah look it up the first half did I do and I do agree with you when we saw like freddie when he was melting the little rat when it goes crazy um those little creatures that we saw all very awesome all very cool I wish all of those were used in a really good movie with a better plot because I really

enjoyed the way that they looked but at the same time where are those creatures from now can Freddie just go like, I send a creature here and a creature here, he can do that and heat things up. Like, and also, when he burns to death, he doesn't ever die. He always, the person, basically the person, what? Could the person even shoot themselves and then peel Freddy off and they're still alive? Okay, so West Craven obviously wrote and directed the first one. Yeah. This one was, who was this?

So, obviously. Jack Shoulder was the director, and David Chaskin was the writer. All right. Let's see who this David Chaskin do is. Yeah, what else has he written? Because I'm not agreeing with any of it. He also wrote Monsters and The Curse and I, Madam, I don't know those. I've never seen those.

I'm going back to, I want to look at some of the, wow, this was nominee for two awards. What? Saturn Award for Best Horror Film. what? I mean, I get it. It's hard to make a movie. They made one and there's, it's not like a lot of the,

the way that it looks was cool and Freddie still looks cool. There's some great shots like we called him out like Freddy with the fire behind and like him melting did, that was gnarly. But come on, you guys. The story is poop,

poop in the pants. Okay, let's see. Let me give you some things. Yeah. The, this is the only nightmare film in which the lead character is male. Okay. In the opening sequence, the bus driver is, remember, I don't know how to say his name, guys. Somebody fanatically write it for me.

Robert Ungland without the Freddie makeup. Oh, okay. New Line cinema originally didn't ask Robert England, or however he say his name, to return as Freddy Kruger and refused to give him a pay raise. Stuntman was cast as Freddie at the start of production after two weeks of filming Robert Shea realized this was a terrible lapse in judgment, fired the stuntman, hired England, and met his demands. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Eat your own dust, buddy. I mean, Robert does a great job as Freddie. He does. Like, it's all story and direction here. It is not on Robert. And obviously, he had already made one gigantic hit. I think the first one was a hit. And you're going to be like, we're not going to give you a raise.

Come on, dude. The year on this was 1985, which is. interesting because Michael J. Fox was considered for the main role in this, but couldn't because of Back to the Future and something else. I lost where I was. I'm so sad about this movie. That would have been amazing. Yeah, I like this guy, though, except for the fact that I thought they were going to do more than because of how, like, creepy weird some of the stuff was. You guys, I think I saw the documentary where Michael J. Fox actually did say he went to Nightmare on Elm Street for like two weeks

and was like the director and the story was weird and I was like I had to get out of there because he couldn't do no they let him go there's some story in the documentary guys but Michael J. Foxx I think they fired Michael J. Fox they didn't like him because they thought he was too comedic in the role of Nightmare on Elm Street too

and then he was filming back to the future at the same time and then he was let go and he was sad about it he thought that this role would be more dramatic, which obviously it was, but like, good on you, man, because this movie sucked. At the end, no thanks. This is kind of weird.

Had this film failed, New Line Cinema might not have survived. The movie hit big enough to finally give the studio some cash flow. In the following years, New Line Cinema rode the Elm Street train for further success, had a hit with another series. Critters cranked out John Waters movies, blah, blah, blah. So this movie was a financial success. Really? How much?

What was the budget? they make. It's a great question, Tara. Let me look into it for you. I mean, wow, this was a huge. It's because the first one was great. We had a lot of fun during that one. I mean, I was screaming. I was legitimately scared. In this one, I wasn't. Okay. This is why this did well. Why? Guess what the budget was. If you had to guess. Okay. If I had to guess a budget, let's see, we were only at the bus stop, a house. We saw that one thing. Um, Oh, God. I'm just going to say it was, oh, God, if it was a hit.

But we're back in the day. God, that's hard for me. I'm going to say it was 50. No, that's too high. I'm going to go low. I'm going to say they got like $35 million. There's a $3 million budget. Oh, my God.

And it made $30 million. Of course it did. $3 million? That's why they didn't want to raise his freaking fund. That's why the blood looked like red paint. Red paint. bright ass red so they that's great I gotta find this Kim Myers girl because she blew us away I agree if there was one great thing this movie gave to me it was the knowledge that this girl exists

oh what is she done what she I feel like I recognize adult her okay yeah well I did she did so let's see um the things on her IMDB that she's known for are this hellraiser uh four is that key west I don't know those things but okay in 2020 wow i don't know most these things at all she has been in a couple episodes of tv shows that we know like judging amy okay closer um this girl should have had a way bigger like she should be known known she was in an episode of six feet under of family law she was in those are all older shows she's in an episode of Seinfelds um wow so she's not really working now no she is because in 2022 she shot a thing called five thousand in blankets.

Okay. Which... Is horror? We don't know. When her husband has a mental breakdown and goes missing, a young woman sends her young sons to find him on the streets. Okay. But she's not the woman.

Okay. She's just in that movie. Yeah. Five blankets. And then in 2020, she did a movie called Jumping the Gun. Okay. I don't know if she wants to be working like crazy, but if she does hire this woman, Yeah. She was great. I really believe. I did believe her. She's very natural in her in her dialogue, which I appreciate. And when she had that breakdown of yelling at Freddie to come out and like, you got to get out of here, you son of a bitch. Like that can be done in a way where you're like, I do not believe her yelling. And I did believe her. There was only a couple instances where I was like, maybe not. But then she got me, I'm on board for her.

Like, this director did a, um, did tremors, which I've heard people love. That's a core. I love that movie. Now this TV series. Oh, that's why. Oh, no. I, I'm talking about the movie was very good. What else is this director done? Because I didn't like, I don't understand how you got together with this script and you were like, yep, we're good. Makes sense. Okay, let's see.

Oh, he did the TV series, Mortal Kombat Conquest. I didn't see it. Looks like he did a lot of TV stuff. He did an episode Tales from the Crypt. Okay. He did a Vietnam War Story episode. So after this, he did a movie called The Hidden. I haven't seen it.

Is with Kyle McLaughlin, and I've never heard of this. Never heard of it. Well, I feel like this honestly kind of put a big damper on his and David Chasekin's career because they didn't seem to work like crazy after this. I wouldn't want to work I would go you have Both have bad taste that you wrote this And you went this makes sense and is good

And then you directed it that way And you thought yep, send it out I am with you Tara that it is so hard to make a movie And to do a movie for $3 million dollars That is this Like I want to give them credit where credit is due But my biggest problem with this movie is the script Yep

Yep It's not good Like because then you guys spent your money on those like dog weird creatures at the end but instead of putting your money into that like do a revision of the script to make things make sense because we didn't have to do what we did there there could have been cool stories in here we liked your characters yeah we really did the first one we had a blast I mean that it's just like you could have gone so many great places I wonder now I got to look up to see what the budget on the first one was and if they really cut it I want like I want trivia about

that guy, if he was eating, the director made him eat. Right. Okay. What happened there? We got a lot of that. It's very weird choices. And like there is something cool about, okay, now Freddie's becoming you.

Like, we could have done some really cool stuff with that with Jesse. And I'm, I'm a big fan of the princess movies. I love true loves kiss. Saves All stuff. But the way they did this one was like, what? Oh my God. Guess how what the budget?

was for the first one. It's got to be more, right? Usually the sequel gets a bigger budget if the first one did well, but the first one looked so much better. Five mil? One point one to $1.8 million and grossed $57 million. Yeah, but it deserved every cent of that. It absolutely did.

Where did this one go wrong in so many ways? I'm like, if they made that first one and it was good and we were in it. So one year before. One year. So that means like they wrapped it. They probably like it's out and they're already working on the second one. They're going let's shove it out because New Line wants to make a name for themselves. I have question for you guys at home.

Which of these are good? Good. Like is it just the first one? Are there other ones that are worth watching? Because you guys warned us this one was bad and we want to do the whole series. We want to do the whole thing. Are there any of these that are like that we're going to like? We have.

There has to be like. Is there a TV show? I don't know but I'm trying to look up let's um let's see what's the one we haven't seen Friday 13th Friday 13th I haven't seen either should we jump and go to that one the I know right like you guys got to let us know because I'm I'm wondering if the third one or the next ones are better because there are there I think there's multiple I feel like when uh let's look at a ranking I'm gonna do a I'm going to look at a ranking of the nightmare movies. You keep going.

Oh, wow. Okay. So, oh, this is all. Oh, good. We called it. Kim Myers was allegedly cast in the film due to her resemblance to Merrill Streep, which you called immediately. I mean, she looks like, and you know,

Meryl Streep's daughters that are all talented and working to. And I was like she looks like she is her daughter slash is her. I agree. And she, I, like, loved her so much. And when you don't love a movie and there's an actress that shines through in the way she did, she was so natural, even like the way they, hair and makeup was great in this too. The way they threw her hair up and it was just like a messy pulling, she was a high schooler. Yes, it was like perfect.

And I'm like, there's so many little things that are lost on this film because of the crappy story. Okay, listen to this. West Craven refused to work on this film because he never wanted or intended for a Nightman on Elm Street to have a sequel. he even wanted the first film to have a happy ending. He also didn't like the idea of Freddie manipulating the protagonist into committing the murders. He did return to the franchise as the writer of Nightmare and Omstreet 3. Okay, okay, so that means we got to get there. That's amazing, and I also have something to tell you.

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as the second word oh no no no sorry the second worst is freddie's dead the final nightmare okay In 91. Then a nightmare on Elm Street. Wait, is it going in up order or bad words order? I can't even tell. Because it has a list of one. Let me scroll all the way. Hold on, hold on.

This is Entertainment Weekly. They ranked them all. Okay. A nightmare on Elm Street, the original, they say is the number one. Okay. Okay. They say that's the number one. Yeah.

Biggo, baby. The second best one is West Craven's new nightmare. Yes. In 94. 1994. Yes. But he set the last. in a reality completely separate from the original and its five sequels where cast and crew

of Nightmare and Elm Street from 84 basically play themselves in that one. Okay. Then number three is Nightmare and Elm Street three Dream Warriors. That's the one that he wrote. Okay. So that makes sense that when Wes is involved, we're golden. Wait, Freddie's Revenge is listed as the fourth best. This one, this one's listed as the fourth best of nine.

This one? This one. Imagine the ones that are way worse than this. Oh, God. You guys, we can't, I don't know. We have to, we have to watch the two West Craven ones. Absolutely. The one that he wrote and then the one that he directed, obviously. But if they're the worse than this one, I don't know if you should sign us up. I guess also West Craven didn't like the protagonist being a man. It went against the final girl trope. Yeah, good for you, West Craven. I completely agree. And the girls in this were all like, you, like it was you take the broom and you get the bird and I'm like and she was the one that rushed had the the mom had the idea of like I know what I need a broom and a and a a newspaper because the rest of them are just like hide bird and then she hands it to the guy and I'm like come on this is what this is what entertainment wheelie says I don't know if this is true you guys have to tell us they said that

the direction production design and special effects are all top notch for this just talking about the movie we just watched, are all top-notch for the times, and performances, particularly by Jesse's father and girlfriend, Kim Myers, who we loved, are convincing. Although still filled with cringeworthy scenes, there's a reason Freddy's revenge remains a favorite. A favorite. No, the story is crap. I mean, I did, like, sure, like, some special effects of the blaze coming out for the time. That looked good. Obviously, when his arm starts coming apart and then you see the fingers flying off. Like I was, all the practical effects in this are dope.

And little creatures. Like that was the first thing I said. Pop that off. Yes, absolutely. This is not a favorite to me because I could not connect to what was happening. I wanted the thing of him crying with the girlfriend. I already forget her name. Lisa.

With Lisa to mean something. When she's like, listen, it's okay. Like they're at the house and they're kind of like they're tearing up. He's crying. He's losing it. with the bright blood on his hands and I'm like we should feel something there should feel for both of them I kind of was like

I did but it could have been a lot more but the story just lacked in so many ways with zero explanation and it also said that this was the very first and only film where Freddie is actually allowed to kill where Freddie kills each of his victims outside of their dreams

yeah that was that was weird that was weird that was why did we throw that in there I'm glad that that's the... I don't know. I want to look at what Rotten Tomatoes said about this. Okay, this makes it me feel a little better. The audience score for Friday... A Nightmare on Alton Street 2, Freddy's Revan, just 33%.

The audience score. If this movie. Yeah. Okay. The Tomato Meter's 43%. So Rotten, rotten, rotten. Rotten. Yeah, good.

Okay, so the people... Critics like this more than the audience. That's wild. I'm like, why? Because West Craven started it. but like this movie is it says that it says this is funny the cast and crew and many of the fans where in the sequence where Freddie terrorizes the pool party they thought it was the most nonsensical scene in the movie that's how it felt it believed it broke the rules that was set forth by

West Craven in the first film namely because Freddie was attacking people while they were awake exactly we both were like and can we answer this question the jumps through the window and then It disappears. And then comes up from the ground. Yeah, like, uh, what? Let's see if I can find. You know what this feels like a bunch of people sitting in the room being like, oh, bro, you know what would look cool?

Right. And it's like, what? But that doesn't fit with the character that we made. That doesn't make any sense in this world. I agree. I do like that they found her diary. I thought that was a cool element. Remember?

I do. I do like that they found stuff in the first half, like, oh, you figured out that your dad knew about the house. but it doesn't go anywhere. It doesn't go anywhere. It stops. All that stuff I like the setup. I agree.

I liked it if we would have freaking like went there. Also, it says that during the scene with the possessed parakeet was based on the film The Birds. I love that movie. That's my favorite hitchhawk. Then they said, Clue had his eye injured during the filming of the scene. Producers later regretted even putting it in the movie as it was to. goofy they said well i don't get what happened in that scene i don't either were they saying it was so hot in the house the bird went crazy or was freddie in the bird right like who how did the bird like

how do you blow up the bird i'm curious i don't also why with his sister was he able to just stop it exactly like there's so many un or is it because she woke up i mean i guess but then he can kill the awake kids and like then okay you're going to school the next day but all these people died at your party right that is and he's going with bandages on his hands but not even about him her mad people dead at your house exactly and she's on the bus like chill on just fine and that girl's like sweet party might not have been the next day because she did say like sweet party this weekend or whatever so maybe it was like the weekend days later still like some kids that you, the guy you went to school with is full on dead. And so is your P.E. teacher.

And the kids at your party that he like dug through. Yeah. I just, I also just am like, why wouldn't, there wasn't, for them to say it's a nonsensical scene, them going to the pool. I absolutely agree. It didn't say anything. I mean, there's, there might be some about him disappearing because I thought that was absolutely wild. Wild. I feel like they thought that this was their home alone moment with like, I'm not afraid anymore. Right. But it was like when she was like, I'm not afraid of you. I was like, wait, you already did that in the first one. And now she came here, but then she was walking away. And why wouldn't you be afraid of him? He's trying to kill you. Yeah, exactly. And I'm like, there was such an opportunity when they're at that pool party

for Freddie to just like really lay in and just like mass murder. Like, because I'm like, well, you're like you're all my children now but then you're like bye like i don't i don't understand that i don't i don't get it because i'm like well he had him there wouldn't freddie just like lay into him then like what what's the point of him going to the party he killed the one kid upstairs now he's outside all those kids are there and scared and then he just is like got to get out of here but then also he's like freddie's like uh what's his name kyle what's our main dude's name Robert Ungland. No, I mean, too.

Jesse. Jesse, Kyle, he's like Jesse's dead. So was his goal to take over his body and then just be out on these streets as Freddie? I guess. Because he kept saying he was dead. Like, I thought he wanted to use him. Exactly. Kill for me is what he asked.

So it would make more sense that he's like, you kill for me. You go outside as Jesse and kill for me. So people, everybody thinks it's. you but then all of a sudden at the end freddie is full on on the outside of his body like how interesting would it have been if at the pool party that's actually him that they're seeing yeah duh that's what we thought that would have made it good and then sleeping through whatever i wanted that to happen where he kills the kid the dad breaks down the door it's jesse all bloody then he has to run out the window and now all the kids are like wow it's jesse he's bloody what has to

bloody what happened i don't know maybe he has the glove on the final scene is him like in a mental institution yeah yeah perfect wrap it up i don't know what the fudge happened i i'm so bummed because and i i don't mean this in any kind of arrogant way i this is a knock on the movie more than it is praising us but we could have written this the end better yes way better you guys i feel like you guys at home could have you know like because if you watched the first one and you know who the character is, you know the world. So how you could do that and then go in this direction here is just a bummer. And it didn't have to be that way.

And your problem wasn't your budget restriction in this. Your problem was your script. Yeah. Your problem wasn't your actors. Your problem wasn't the design. The problem was your script. Yep. Absolutely.

100%. And also the direction because like the disappearance and like what, and I was like, wait, what? like he's he didn't do he he morphed through a like a fence in the first one I was like oh that was cool but this one it was yes in a dream yes exactly and this one I'm like what he and then the kids are looking at the glass that's broken so that's like it's not a dream he's actually there now and he just disappeared and then he comes flying out of the ground this is like one of those movies where if somebody said they loved this movie I would really need them to explain to me why Yeah. If it was just for the stunts and Lisa or they're like the gruesomeness, the creatures, like the blood, the hand coming out, I would go, cool. Yeah. If you're going to talk to me about special effects and practical effects and the gruesome nature of it, yeah, bingo, baby. I'm on team with you, but you got to say the rest of it if this is your, because the story does not add up. That does not go.

Saying a couple of good things, at least it wasn't too long. Agreed. an hour 25 and if this had been longer I would be like just so upset because yeah no um Lisa was a shining light we're talking about the effects there were some cool there's some cool audio choices that they did as well some weird ones some weird ones some cool ones I did like um the actors that played his parents and his little sister they all felt pretty natural yeah I wish we did more with them um I I the dude that plays his friend of me I don't he was a fine actor too I would like to be more clear

on some of his choices like why they were made why did he bully him at the beginning and pants him yeah and then they were homies like then they were buddies maybe bros be bros

I'll let that one go what was their commentary on Schneider like what were we trying to say about him yeah where did the BDSM they comment on it and then it's like so he's killed in a BDSM manner

because he's tied up and they're whip this whipping his butt. And I'm like, oh, that's just like, it's like some weird payback, but it doesn't make sense. But the weird thing about that is Freddie, from what my recollection is, Freddie goes after kids. Yeah, why the PE teacher? Although Freddie went after the teacher in the first one, though. Oh, that's right. She, yeah, yeah, he killed her.

So kids and people who like kids, I guess, but Schneider doesn't like kids. Teachers and. Yeah, so maybe. And that teacher was nice, right? Oh, she was a dick. And so he was kind of a dick. See, it's like, it's like copying the same script of like, you got to watch me and he's taking caffeine pills. And if I wake up, you got it.

And I'm like, this is exactly the same. No, no, that's not, Freddie. That's Chuckie. Oh my God. We do too many of these. The girl, the teacher, that was the dick. That's Chuckie, right? Yes.

Yes, that's Chuckie. Yeah. Okay. So. But the caffeine pills was from the first one too, right? when they were like if, yes. But I'm just trying to think, have we seen Freddie kill somebody who's not a kid?

No. I don't, you're right. We were watched, yeah. I don't think, that'd be chucky. Good thing. My memory, you know, it's crap, y'all. How did the, how did you do that? And I was like, oh, no.

No, okay. I, I steered us in the wrong direction, Tara. Scream queens. This whole movie, it's steered us in too many different ways. We already said what, we thought the ending should be and y'all know that the rating would have shot up like hell if he came out and they were like it's jesse he killed everybody and then he's locked up and the sister's crying and the family's like we lost her son and she's being interviewed like how do you feel about your son

being a serial murderer and you didn't know it i don't know it's end screen i just anything could have been a little bit better i love about the scream franchise have you seen any of the stream movies? Yeah, not all of them. I need to watch them. Like, we set up for sequels in terms of we keep with a lot of our characters. Like, this is like, why are we, why do we, why did we not do something like that? And then the next one can be about, like, trying to prove his innocence and Freddie's trying to fuck with other kids and it's happening to more people that go to their school or the parents. Like, they're alive still. So, but we're so not setting up for any, anything no and that's probably why west craven for the 1994 one was like they basically play

themselves from the first one is doing what a proper sequel would do um in bringing them in and going i mean i'm sure west craven was pissed being like i told you this wasn't going to be a sequel now you've new line cinema has allowed it to get money so they could be like we're making this thing and then west was like now i have to get involved and he probably wanted to do other things they also said in the trivia that this was Robert's least favorite of all of the nightmare movies. But yeah, if I was Wes, I would watch this and been like,

ugh. Like, why'd you do this to my baby? Right. It's just, it was disappointing. I hope that we watch. It's like they didn't watch the first one. Exactly. I'm like, it's like you didn't accept you took the caffeine pills and being like, wake me up. If I do anything

weird, I'm like, it sounds like the exact same lines. I'm like, the exact same idea. If you're really going to switch it up this much, my like find an alternative a cool alternative to keep the kid awake like what's he going to do listen to metal music keep the lights on his face exactly like anything creative make him not pee like there's all these um yes like navy seal tricks that uh that like you could do like you don't pee you blast cold air you blast music like things i mean not just seals do that but like you could look into what do people do when they have to stay awake for too long and that would have been a creative way to do it and we would have been a creative way to do it and we would would have been like, oh, that's creative. That's a nice scene different. Like all of a sudden he, like, pees his pants in glass because he hasn't been peeing for

like, like, yeah. Yeah, like, come on, guys. Like, just hire me and Roxy for your script needs when you have a crap movie and you need to make it better. Or invent a time machine, go back to 84, hire us to write the end of this movie. Yeah, exactly. And then also we both request to be in it. Yeah, yeah, that too.

Both actors, you guys, listen, we're so happy that you joined us for this. I hope you lasted through it with us, or at least, because we're on the same team here. We're definitely going to watch the West Craven one that he wrote and the one obviously he directed. We have to do those. You guys can let us know if there's any more out of there that you're like, you need to watch this because it's so bad that it's good. We might be able to do it. Definitely the West Craven.

So like, give this a like, give it a comment. Share it. I mean, maybe people want to watch the bad one with us. It's better than watching it alone. Exactly. I mean, because it was, I mean, because you saw our faces. We're sitting here like sighing going like, come on, man. And I bet you guys were two at home.

So that's it. We got to get out of here. I think we complained too much. You heard, though, that there were some pluses about it that we both like. We're not pooping all over it. We love you, Lisa. Justice for Lisa. We do.

We love you, Lisa. It's like a rising in the room. We love you guys so much and we'll see you on the next one. Bye. Mom, Papa, my body grew at a rhythm alarmante, and the roba that I'll buy in now me get very small,

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