The Reel Rejects - A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 4: THE DREAM MASTER (1988) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:15 and becoming royal rejects. I have the monkeys' daydream believer stuck in my head. And on that, no, let's just jump into a nightmare on Elm Street 4. All right. There's so many things I want to look up about this, but... Wow. Initial thoughts, we have now seen four Nightmare on Elm Street movies. Is this one stacking up to the rest?

Starting point is 00:01:40 Did you feel like this was middle of the pack? I like this one better. I really liked the... I love the practical and the special effects. As I saw when they did the whatever, the titles at the top, they said they had mechanical effects, and those, like, blew me away. There was some CGI stuff that I was like, yeah, whatever. not great but those practical effects were awesome and maybe it was just like more exciting for me

Starting point is 00:02:04 to be like that's Lisa at a really young age and I liked watching her but I really enjoyed all of the cast I like the chemistry like I was really sad that the smart girl I forget her name was not around long enough because I loved her as an actor she had a great vibe and was awesome the thing that bugged me probably was that a lot of it did sound ADR it was only during the times when they're inside a building. Because it was so much outside that they... It's because it's so much outside that the ADR did all. And I'm like, because probably my assumption is back then,

Starting point is 00:02:37 you didn't have as much like filtering possibilities in editing to like add it together because you can kind of like pick a sound out in editing software and then be like, get rid of that sound. I assume back in the day they're like, we can't do that. So ADR comes into play. But I do feel like ADR always takes me out. of it a little bit so um that was that was a thing that yeah when you were mentioning it did bug me

Starting point is 00:03:03 um sorry no not i i had already noticed it i had already noticed it that when they were inside felt fine like they were miced up or boomed outside not so much um but yeah i i i mean i guess it moved pretty quick too they they were killing off he killed off those kids quick yeah like The waterbed shot with the girl and him, that was amazing. Like there's so many cool shots in here. And the face coming through Freddie at the end and then like, Even the faces on the pizza too. Like amazing.

Starting point is 00:03:38 Yeah, there was so many sick shots in here. So many cool, cool shot. The cockroach, she turns into a half of a cockroach. And then fall, like that was, that was gnarly for me. That was hard for me to watch. And that, I mean, this movie gave me a lot of the hebi-jeebies. So I appreciate it. Okay. I'm with you. I think a lot of the visuals were super cool. Once again, I think they've done a great casting job with these movies. Everyone feels supernatural. The chemistry is so there between siblings, lovers, friends. You just believe all of them. I like, I think they do a strong job with the dialogue in this franchise too. It's not over-the-top corny and cheesy. I know that I'm going to sound like a broken record here. I can't help it when I become fixated on something when I'm watching a movie.

Starting point is 00:04:24 movie and it doesn't turn out that way it's like I'm kind of like so what was that about why I am just super curious why they named that little girl Alice and then have her say that's my friend's name I guess that could just be you know that happens in life all the time I'll meet somebody terror oh that's my friend's name but it just felt like there's going to be more to it and if you're going to do red herring then you kind of need another bait and switch and we didn't have that so I'm just like huh is that for another movie yeah and that would make this movie sometimes you watch sequel and they're like oh that makes the other one a better movie but for me just that moment then it caused my mind to start wandering and stop focusing as much on what was in front of me

Starting point is 00:05:05 yeah and then i feel like i was less present and waiting on something that never landed which again is it on me as a viewer that i just couldn't kind of be like oh well maybe that was just a little side note but instead it made me start wondering if really this movie was going to be a movie about the past or about the future or about the sins of our parents or our self as kids or whatever like right what's the theme right and then the larger theme is what you were searching for right but as when as we're on the fourth one of this franchise really it was just the visuals that i think we should be appreciating yeah um i also did much prefer the character of nancy as the lead protagonist in this franchise because i felt like we had grown with her a little bit and

Starting point is 00:05:49 in this one um what what even is our was our lead girls name the blonde one yeah i don't remember her carrying over from last time into this time right it's like i don't know that i cared as like her i didn't her mom i didn't even recognize her first and then her mom like just being a nightmare the whole time um and same thing with the the other girl that you know um's parent the dad situation was kind of like why is he right like what's the where are we going to go with that Right. Like, maybe that's a setup. Maybe.

Starting point is 00:06:26 But if so, I don't know that I want that. I kind of liked that each one of these was a little bit different. And I know Nancy carried over, so now sometimes we carry over one character. But some of the parents seem to be just so one note. And the dad was just nothing to do with the actor. He did a great job. But the way he is written is just like. Annoying.

Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah. Yeah. And like none of them believe their kids. at all across the franchise, just none of them. And it's like, that makes sense to a certain point. But when five kids are dead, you think you would start questioning things. And instead is like, you're staying inside.

Starting point is 00:07:06 And it's like, how about we start having a conversation? Yeah. I agree. I mean, it's the same with the brother when the brother was like, watch, watch out. If I go next, watch your back. And it was just like he was just waiting to die, to fall asleep and die, which I just felt like,

Starting point is 00:07:22 come on, guys, there's been three people already that have died and you're just going to succumb that easily? Like, I, I do want, or I did want a little bit of rebellion to happen. Like, how do we do what they said in the first one? Do you all remember the first one where they're like, we all got, the parents got together and went and got him, right? And that's how they had the glove in the incinerator. But he was alive then. Yeah, you're right. And I'm like, well, can we all go team up and like revolution Freddy in the dream like because now we have someone who could summon them all

Starting point is 00:07:58 like can we summon an entire group but it was a cool premise. I mean it still was cool yeah that she got a little bit of each of them I liked that. That was cool but I was I am now expecting in the next franchise did she get a little bit of Freddie and now does she turn into Freddie like is he take her over or what? Yeah I guess

Starting point is 00:08:16 the end of this movie just left me with more questions than answers. Yeah and that is fine but I'm wondering what they wanted the takeaway to be. But at the end of the day, Robert England is so good. As Freddy, he's scary as crap. Yeah. They always have good people in this. The visuals look cool.

Starting point is 00:08:36 I'm with you on the ADR stuff. I think we could tweak that a little bit more. But for the time, for what it is, still creepy, interesting thoughts. They're not just rehashing the same movie over and over again, which I always respect and appreciate. All right. And so, yeah, I just, I think that this franchise is not. perfectly consistent, even with when we have our dude at the beginning, Concade, he dies in

Starting point is 00:08:56 his bed, but he's just asleep. Right. No scars. And it's like, right. Yeah, like, where was that? That, that did kind of get to me, that, that inconsistency with that. When you die, then I want to see it happen because that's how it's happened in one and the others. So I assume that would carry through. But, all right, I'm going to look up some things for us. Okay. And let you know if there's any fun physax. Yeah. That's cool and go for facts. Fisax.

Starting point is 00:09:24 You just want to let you know about the Fizzax. Suh. Really good vocal fry that people think I have, but I don't. This is my nodules. Okay. So really holding it down for the people. Yeah, keep on. That sounds like a real, you know, like the TikTok, like the time is going down.

Starting point is 00:09:44 And you're like, oh, my God. And you have anxiety. And it's like. you guys are like sign her up pay her money to be the ticotker clock okay this is cool and very well deserved i think this is the first film of the franchise where robert england received top billing in the opening credits oh yeah i mean you wow that's the first time okay well he did and they did give him way more lines to work with in this oh this one's wild that neither you nor i caught this the name of the diner where alice works is called the crave inn a reference

Starting point is 00:10:17 to franchise creator are West Craven. Oh, yeah. I didn't see that. That's great. I love that little Easter egg. West Craven turned down New Line Cinema's offer to direct and rewrite their script. I like the part that says rewrite, not just right. It's like they already had somebody doing it.

Starting point is 00:10:34 They're like, actually, maybe we need to bring him West. Yeah. Okay. Okay, this was the highest grossing entry in a nightmare on Elm Street film franchise, not counting Freddie versus Jason. It earned $49 million in the U.S. Wow. Citizens of the Reject Nation, or should I say Royal Reject, because that is who we call those

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Starting point is 00:12:44 mechanical effects. Like I said, that was the first thing came out of my mouth. Sold. There were so many amazing shots in this that script-wise, I'm sure that they could have melded story along with the visual effects that we saw. And if they have done that, that's like 10 out of 10. The story was still good, but like for me, it really was those visual. This was the highest grossing horror film of 1988. Wow. I didn't catch this. Did you catch Rick and Alice were twins in this group? They were? No, I didn't know that.

Starting point is 00:13:17 That never came up. Okay. Nope. Not only did actress Tuesday Night co-star in the film, she also performed this theme song. Oh, wait, is Tuesday night

Starting point is 00:13:31 the... Tuesday night is... Let's see. The actress that we like that died? I don't think so, but let's look. No, that was the... girl who played Kristen. Oh, Tuesday night is Kristen. Yep. Okay, cool. She's a singer too. I don't know what the song was. Let's see what the director did. Rennie Harlan directed

Starting point is 00:13:52 Driv... Oh, I don't know this stuff. He directed the bricklayer last year. He directed refuge last year. Huh. The Misfits in 2021. Bodies at Rest in 2019. Do you know any of this? Nope. A legend of Hercules in 2014. Let's see what he did around this time. So this was in 88, I think he said, right? Okay, so before this, he directed Born American Prison. Oh, no, he's directed 40 movies. Oh, he directed Die Hard 2.

Starting point is 00:14:30 Wow. Okay, that's a big one, right? Yeah, I wonder what happened that that's not on his top. I don't know if I've seen two. He directed Deep Blue Sea. I think I like that movie. Okay, so he has done some stuff that we know. He directed an exorcist movie called Exodus the beginning.

Starting point is 00:14:51 He directed The Covenant. We got a what? We had to get out of that because I think it was going to start a preview for five. I didn't want us to catch it. Okay. So those are what he did. And, okay, this might be where some of the writing issues took place in terms of story here. So, of course, they credited West Craven for writing credits, but they also have four

Starting point is 00:15:15 other credited writers for this. William Cotts Winkle for Story, Brian Heldsland for Story and Screenplay, Jim Wheat for screenplay, Ken Wheat for screenplay. Okay. That's like, they were like, mm-mm. Yeah, going back and forth, like a team that you would need on there. I bet you it was more like, I do agree that, well, not agree. I can assume that there's that many people kind of thinking up about like, what if she turns into a half cockroach, right?

Starting point is 00:15:48 Like there had to be so many pitches in this of like, and then she falls face down and they're in a roach motel. He squishes it. Juice comes out. That's her dead. I'm like, I wonder if each person had a different interesting kill, like the waterbed. There's just so many different kills in this that I really, really appreciated, which is kind of why I'm going towards that may be why it was the most grossed movie. Yeah, that makes sense.

Starting point is 00:16:14 Also, I don't know what else came in 88, but maybe that was just a good year for horror. Right. Okay, let's see if I can find you anything else. A couple awards, it was a nominee for Saturn Award for Best Horror Film. Okay. Robert England was nominated for Best Supporting Actor for this for the Saturn Awards and Rennie Harlan for Best Director nominated as well.

Starting point is 00:16:39 Wow, okay. You got a Razzie nominee for worst original song for the song therapist. Oh, God, for that girl. Does that mean that the one that Kristen's saying? That's sad. I don't know. I don't like that for her. I don't even know which song they're talking about.

Starting point is 00:16:52 Me neither, but I is making an assumption, it's that one. If she's a singer-songwriter, it's an original. Remembering you and I thought that it was the, they were repeating the scene on accident? Yes, I was like, this is a terrible editing move. We had no faith in the movie. I thought they all just fell asleep. in the editing room and went like, oh yeah, this all looks good.

Starting point is 00:17:13 It just doesn't bode well for the movie that you and I had so little faith. Right. Okay, the success of this film convinced producers to create Freddy's nightmares, which I guess is the next movie, but also says 1988, I'm not sure about that. Robert England's favorite movie of the series was this?

Starting point is 00:17:32 I wonder if that's true. Probably because he got to talk a lot. He talked way more. And all the other ones, he's just like, I'm going to get you. you. He doesn't even say that, but you guys get the juice. In the scene when Rick is teaching Alice the kick, when her shoe flies and sinks in the fishbow, you can see in the fishbow a little doll hand with long nails like a mini

Starting point is 00:17:53 Freddie glove. It's a blink and you miss it moment. I also realize that she did that and her shoe came off and then there's a second time her shoe came off. So a little foreshot on there. At around 34 minutes a magazine can be seen in Kristen's room that has a picture of Johnny Depp, who starred in a nightmare on Elm Street and had a brief cameo on Freddy's dead, the final nightmare, which is 91. Oh, cool. Love that. I think those are some good bits of trivia for you guys.

Starting point is 00:18:23 Not some good trivia. Yeah, some good trivia, England. Some good facts. Any final thoughts from this, Tara? No, no, I don't think so. Good job, Lisa Wilcox. I'll finally get to message you and be like, I finally watched the movie. she did do a good job she goes to conventions i see her on my facebook where she goes and she still

Starting point is 00:18:43 signs signatures at conventions and stuff so uh she yeah good job i'm glad i finally got to to see it i have no qualms with a single actor in the entire franchise i don't think right no i don't i don't think so either i think they're all pretty pretty believable i mean i did i was very disappointed that the girl who had asthma was killed so soon because she was on i mdba even find her. Extremely believable. Like she as a co-character, I wish she would have stuck around a little bit longer. Me too. I liked her a lot. But other, I mean, but everyone, yeah, I believed them all. So I liked it. Great job. Special Effects. Practical

Starting point is 00:19:25 effects. That was my favorite. I don't know what's up for us next. Yeah. Sounds like Freddy's nightmares, if that's a thing. I don't know. Or something. But if you guys are liking what we're doing over here, you might want to check out what we're doing over on the Chucky franchise. We are binging that whole thing. I know that a little bit ago, you did the entire Saw franchise as well. We've done the Purge franchise. We did the whole Purge. That's where it all started. I did the final destination one with Greg. Just thinking of things you guys might want to check out if you're liking what we're doing here. And until then, if you... Leave the comments else you love us because we love you and share this video so that we can do five, six, seven, whatever. If you guys

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The Reel Rejects - A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 4: THE DREAM MASTER (1988) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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