The Reel Rejects - A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 5: THE DREAM CHILD (1989) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:03 The new Volvo Xc90, designed for life. Visit volvocars.com slash us to learn more. Citizens of the Reject Nation. We have a confession. Okay. We majorly... Hello, real rejects. This is Lisa Wilcox here,

Starting point is 00:01:26 a.k.a. Alice Johnson from a.m. in Elm Street to saying, hey, I so enjoyed Tara in Roxy's comments watching Nymer and Elm Street. Tara, actually, we did a pro-flowers commercial, a Mother's Day commercial together. That's how we met. And I was playing the young grandma, and she was the young mama. You are the greatest mom anyone could wish for. Happy Mother's Day.

Starting point is 00:01:59 Happy Mother's Day. So enjoy the YouTube, super fun, and I will be watching. And Alice, by the way, it's all about her reveal, her mirrors covered with photographs of her family, her mother, slowly she peels them off, and she finds herself, and she finds her strength. And it was always in Alice, but she didn't want to look in the mirror to see it. And then she shows a mirror to Freddy. Let them out.

Starting point is 00:02:36 And he explodes. Evil will see itself. And it shall die. All right. Hi. We majorly flopped. We couldn't have messed up worse. We were left alone to our own devices.

Starting point is 00:02:55 We tried to watch a nightmare on Elm Street 5, the Dream Child. Well, we thought we were absolutely watching it. Yes, we tried to watch it. We put it on. We did watch it in our minds, but it turns out what we actually watched was the reboot of a nightmare on Elm Street. 2010. It was very confusing to us for the entire reaction. We did not know what the flying F was happening.

Starting point is 00:03:21 We didn't. We turned to each other multiple times and we're like, why this? We don't understand. Why does it seem like it's just, you guys? We didn't stop it, though. We did not. We watched all of the reboot thinking it was Nightmare and Elm Street 5. So that reaction is going to be available for you guys in a little bit.

Starting point is 00:03:41 It's going to be the best reaction ever. It will be an entire joke the entire time. I cannot lie. Some members of the team have watched it, and they sent us pictures of themselves crying. They were laughing so hard. It is supposed to be the reaction of this entry. And we are willing to show it because despite looking like absolute morons, it's funny. We're here for you, baby.

Starting point is 00:04:07 Today, we are actually watching a nightmare on Elm Street 5, The Dream Child. We are going to double, triple, quadruple check because it was my mistake. I clicked the, I thought I clicked five, y'all. I really did. I went home after you took the hate. You were like, okay, bus run me over. Tara was like, I did this, and I was like, yes, she did. Then I went home and I was like, I sat through a two-hour movie and didn't say one word.

Starting point is 00:04:36 I think I'm equally at fault of you. So, you know, we ride together, we die together. Ride or die, baby. For our sisters for life. She-Dix. Yeah, so she-jacks. Thanks so much for standing by us. Thank you for appreciating us for our truest fullest self, which sometimes mean we make mistakes, but we're honest with you about it and hope you love us anyway.

Starting point is 00:04:55 Purge! Oh, God. I just thought maybe in the intro that it would like work and now this is just, this is just prolonging the intro and they're going to hate everything. All right, here we go. A nightmare on Elm Street 5, the dream child. All right. All right.

Starting point is 00:05:23 music choices. Let's get it. Get it. 80s, 80s, 80s, 80s, 80s, yeah. Woo! Here's what we just did, Tara. We just actually watched a night car on Elm Street 5. We did it.

Starting point is 00:05:40 We did it. Yay. Okay, I'm a little conflicted on this one. Talk to me about your thoughts. Man, okay. Before you do that, to the people at home, don't forget, if you were listening to us on Apple,

Starting point is 00:05:53 podcast, Spotify, wherever you are, five star, leave a comment. If you're watching this on YouTube, leave a comment. We love reading what you guys have to say. Tara and I make a really concerted effort to make sure that we're responding to you guys in there. You guys are the only reason we're able to do this. So please keep it up and let us know what you think. Does this stack up to the rest of them?

Starting point is 00:06:13 Does it not stack up to the rest of them? Is this better? Is this worse? Where are we going in this franchise? Just let us know your thoughts. But also, Tara, I want to hear you. Well, I think my favorite thing about it was that, like, the ending, some of these special effects were great. I think, I feel like I say that about a lot of the movies that I'm not like, wow, this was amazing.

Starting point is 00:06:32 Like, one is always going to have like my heart still. But I did really like, like Lisa did a really good job of being subtle and realistic. So did all of the other actors actually now they think about it. They all did a great job with it. The Dream Child scenario I liked, I guess, once we were. we figured it out and my my favorite thing was the special effects like at the end when the things come out of his body and those are the souls awesome um and yeah there was another special things that i think i my my brain is a little it's going around right now i'm trying to think

Starting point is 00:07:11 of the other practical effects that i really really liked but there was a lot in there that was i think it was either a miniature or a somewhat cg i like when he was falling down into when Dan was falling into and she was like, grab my hand. They added some, some, uh, CGI, I think, but the can't, there was another camera shot that was from down below. You could see it was plastic, red behind it was blowing some wind in it. And I was like, why did they just use the practical the whole time?

Starting point is 00:07:40 It didn't look bad. Um, I liked it. I love Robert England in this. I mean, he, he can't really do much wrong. Um, I guess I'm more, let's tell me your thoughts. And then I'll kind of go off for there. Because right now I'm like, I don't know exactly where I sit specifically with this movie yet.

Starting point is 00:07:59 Here my thoughts, and I'm going to ask some informable question. Yeah. What happened in this movie? Great question. No, I really mean that because I think the reason I think I'm struggling with this is that, okay, I did predict some things, which meant that, like, I kind of understood it. But the premise being when the baby inside her, so she falls in love, she's in love with dance. Dan impregnates her.

Starting point is 00:08:22 Yes. That's the key that Freddie finds to get back into this world is through the baby. And so then she, when the baby sleeps, she can be awake, but still walking through the world in the dream. In the dream. In the baby's dream. In the baby's dream. And we haven't seen that yet because in other ones, even if somebody else is asleep, so like the baby's somebody else, You can't just be walking around awake unless you're summoned in, right?

Starting point is 00:08:54 Right. So this was like changing the rules up a little bit. Because she's always summoned because the baby's with her. But other people were also being summoned in weird ways. Like her home girl in the jacuzzi or her homeboy with the drawings. Totally. And we had so much going on where it's like, wait. So are you telling me now if you draw something, like Alice drew something, she's in there.

Starting point is 00:09:18 Then she's in there. He draws something or he finds something and then he goes in there too. So I just feel like there was so much going on. There was so many changes happening. And it was hard for me to keep track of where are we? And we know the one rule of nightmare is don't fall asleep. Right. This movie said it doesn't matter if you fall asleep.

Starting point is 00:09:40 Baby fell asleep. So that kind of changes up the whole game plan here. That being said. I like the actors. A lot of the practicals are amazing. I think the premise of the baby falling asleep is interesting. Like you said, hell yes, to Robert England, especially because we watched the nightmare on Elm Street

Starting point is 00:10:03 and didn't watch this one. Right. So we know what it's like without Robert England. Yeah. So I think all of that was cool. But plot-wise, this was the one that was the most, like, played fast and loose with the world that they created, I felt. Yeah, I do agree.

Starting point is 00:10:18 It's funny that I, that I did call it out. I was like, what if he draws himself into the thing? Because we'd seen Alice draw herself. And then I'm like, oh, is that just so that you see a representation of exactly where you want to go in your dreams and it makes you go there? I guess, cool. And that did look sick. It did.

Starting point is 00:10:38 It did. It did look great. It just, I do agree with you that we hadn't gotten a taste of that yet of drawing us in there and the reality of like what we could actually. find just behind the scenes you think it's bad that we're frozen there let's see I think we're I think it'll come back um me making sure that we don't mess up yet again on another video by doing some kind of crazy only taran roxy can do it issue okay good good uh I was scared I got scared and then I got off track listen I'm just a girl who loves horror movies cool shirt right yeah I'm just a girl who

Starting point is 00:11:16 loves rock and roll hell yeah um and horror movies. And this actually had really cool music in it too. It had great music. I loved when it went into like the choral music when they're in the church. I love the lighting when Alice runs back in and it's all orange lighting behind the stairs behind her. There's a lot of cool stuff in this film. Like the whole pool scene where the girl goes to die, but then she falls into the world and then she's in the water. Like that was, we didn't just see her. I agree. Like, yeah, it was cool when we saw her going down into cement, we're like, we thought we were going to see her hit her head, but she goes into a puddle, ends up back up in that different area in the water, which was awesome.

Starting point is 00:11:56 Also, Alice at the top, drowning, almost drowning in the shower. Like, there's a lot of cool scenes in this, but I do agree there is a lot to take on to go, like, is she sleeping or is it just the kid and she is awake the whole time? Because then why would you have to watch her? Because then when she sleeps, that's what she's. when she gets into that, it has to be both because she falls asleep and then he does in that drawing. I like that Freddie made his own comic so that, and that was such a cool choice to make it black and white because it wasn't done yet. It looked sick. It looked awesome. And when Dan,

Starting point is 00:12:36 it's such a creative way that I don't even think that they were trying to save budget because the practical effects in this are awesome. But the way that they chose to kill, Dan that he goes to kill him and then he turns into the comic the piece of paper and he's just shredding him apart and when we see the paper fall he's bleeding out the colors that he wears I'm like that's so creative I loved watching that I just thought wow that's so cool I agree with you there was a lot of things that I thought looked so cool yeah I just didn't know how much sense they fully made right that's okay because the whole thing's a nightmare and a dream Yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:15 But I have to say, and people might be mad at me for this. I don't know. This might be my least favorite one in the franchise so far. Yeah. I feel like it might just be because we weren't, there wasn't really a moment where we felt totally on the edge of our seats like we have with the last ones. I'm going to look up trivia about it.

Starting point is 00:13:35 Maybe that will help us enjoy it a little more or understand some things more. Look up some trivia. Only because we kind of knew where it was headed and that we knew we had to eventually find Amanda, we're going to get there. And then we knew that the second Alice falls asleep and Dan is there, they're both going to fall asleep, right, and end up in this world trying to fight Freddie. What we didn't know is how they are going to make creative kills happen, which I think was the strongest point in this movie, how they did that.

Starting point is 00:14:07 By far and away, it was the strongest point. Strongest point. A plus for creativity. A plus. You guys really surprised me. And those souls coming out. out of him at the end. I mean, I don't know how they did that, but that looked very practical mixed with some special effects. But, oh, God, and the girl who's like eating the food

Starting point is 00:14:26 and her face blows up, that was wild. That was going to make me throw up. I was saying that was so Varuka salt or whatever. You know who's the name of the girl in Rilanka with the purple of blueberry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the other one, right? Whatever. I'm not going to know her name, but I know who you're talking about. Okay. That was awesome. Very cool, practical. effect. And the doll stuff, the doll coming back with her. There was a lot of themes in this movie that they made them follow around like the girl, the diver. The theme with her was the water. The theme with the girl was the dolls. The doll always came back. She died at the very end is like the doll dies with the jelly in it. Like there was themes with each person. So I think

Starting point is 00:15:04 the kills were the most creative part of this movie. Do this get a theatrical release? Like I'm just trying to fully understand. Okay. So let's see. this one let's get to some trivia on this it's even hard to find on iMdb because on iMdb it's not called them a nightmare on elm street five um it's called all of the other ones are a nightmare on elm street two three four is it called the nightmare on elm street the dream child except thank god on netflix they put a five there thank you netflix yeah because we needed to know we needed that absolutely did so all right according to director stephen hopkins they got lots of tarantulas

Starting point is 00:15:45 hand painted them green and red and on the floor of the stage placed a little wall up in the shape of an arm that had trainers come in and around the tarantulas. The plan was to simply drop the wall and film the resulting scattering scattering of the spiders. However, after they got the shot, they were left with a studio full of around 200 angry tarantulas. Hopkins figures, we probably carried on shooting on another set. I'm sure. I don't think anyone ever found them again. As far as the director knows, the spiders roamed freely throughout the studio and escaped into the free world,

Starting point is 00:16:20 or maybe it was just someone else's job to ensure the tarantulas were all accounted for. Oh, my God, but wait, wait, we didn't get that shot because they choose to do the wall fell and it was graphic. And then we cut to the tarantulas, and they're saying they actually got a shot of 250 actual real tarantulas running around. Where the heck is that? We did get a ton of the individual ones. I know that. I know that, baby. but 250, I want to see that.

Starting point is 00:16:46 That's amazing. That's a great story. Before I do any more of the trivia, I want to see who was part of this creative team. Okay, so this director was Stephen Hopkins, and he did Predator 2. Oh. He did, he has quite a bit of work under his belts. Let's see what he did before this. He directed a lot of Californication, which is a show that I love.

Starting point is 00:17:07 Love that show. Yeah, but in the, he did Predator 2 in 90. This was 89, so right after this, he did Predator 2 before this. He did Dangerous Game, which is a movie that I don't know. Who's in it? People I don't know. Do you want me tell you anyway? Marcus Graham, Stephen Greaves.

Starting point is 00:17:24 Okay, I don't know it. Miles Buchanan. Don't know it. Yeah, okay. Then he did a couple of music videos. So this was his first big movie. Big film. Okay.

Starting point is 00:17:34 All right. And he directed a few episodes of Tales from the Crypt. He directed The Ghost and the Darkness. So, okay, that's interesting. He directed Lost in Space. Okay. Then let's see who else was part of this creative team because, curious. They credited West Craven, obviously.

Starting point is 00:17:52 Then story. Was written by a girl, Leslie Boehm. Yeah. Let's see what else that she did. She was Dante's Peak, she wrote. That's a great movie. Darkest Hour. Let's see what she had done before this.

Starting point is 00:18:10 So, because this is the kind of shit that I would go and and look up myself. Right before this, earlier in 89, she did House 3, the horror show. Don't know it. And then she did this.

Starting point is 00:18:20 Okay. So it seems like first big time director, first big time writer together, which kind of starts making this, make a little more sense, where I think what they thought of mostly was what would be cool. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What would look sick? What would be really cool? What would be different? And this did look cool. This had sick moments and it was very different. Okay, Stephen King and Comic writer Frank Miller were offered the job of writing and directing this movie.

Starting point is 00:18:46 Alex Proyas was also offered as his first directed project. He turned it down because he didn't want to direct sequels and felt it was more fun to make original material. Okay. All right. New Line Cinema gave Stephen Hopkins just four weeks to shoot this film, even less than the eight weeks or so that Rennie Harlan got for a nightmare on Elm Street for The Dream Master. And a further four weeks for editing. Wow, four weeks to shoot four weeks. Whoa, that's why they had to make some cuts.

Starting point is 00:19:14 But even with those cuts and what you did, good job. This meant that he had to shoot on one stage while the crew dressed the other so they could shoot almost continually. In the meanwhile, he also had to oversee special effects work. He said that he managed because he was 28 at the time and required a little sleep. Wow. His efforts paid off because when 20th Century Fox heard of this, they were so impressed that he was given. the task of directing Predator 2. Good. Well, good on him because those, like I said, those practical effects are the ones that

Starting point is 00:19:48 got us. And the fact that you made that in four weeks, that's insane. And there's some, yes, some that I was complaining about where I'm like, why, they didn't all use the whatever, but they had to add in the fact that you also did not have time to fix a lot of stuff in post, four weeks for editing an entire feature film. That includes effects. Give me a break. You did a good job. Yeah, that I completely agree. Like, that makes perfect sense on why some of the things were not. Okay, so this says, unlike the previous films, with the exception of the first one,

Starting point is 00:20:19 this film, main title does not display five, just Nightmare on Elm Street, The Dream Child, which we talked about. This is just a fun little thing for you rock and roll people, because I was like, oh, I wish I could pause there to see who we're looking at. Eric Singer, former drummer for Alice Cooper, Black Sabbath, Badlands, and then current Kiss drummer as one of the band members on the television. television show. Oh, that's cool.

Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah, when he was like, you guys all, yeah, awesome. Yeah, that was very cool. The final nightmare on Elm Street film until Freddie versus Jason to feature the jump rope kids singing Freddy's rhyme. This is the final one? The final nightmare in Alps Creek film until Freddie versus Jason. Oh, okay. Got it. Got it.

Starting point is 00:20:59 Got it. So I think there's a couple without it then. Okay. Cool. Which is interesting. Let's see. The film opened at number three at the box office, but it disappeared thereafter. and it was the lowest grossing film of the franchise at the time.

Starting point is 00:21:13 Robert England stated that the film was a success and it did manage to make $22 million on an $8 million budget. However, the box office was less than half of what a nightmare on the street for Dream Master had pulled in on a $6.5 million budget, which led to the decision to end the franchise with the next film, Freddy's Dead, the Final Nightmare in 1991. Wow.

Starting point is 00:21:37 Wow. Okay. this is interesting Lisa Wilcox's name appears in the opening credits but not in the ending credits Interesting I didn't notice that

Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah I didn't notice that either She did come up first in there Yep Um okay If you were a nightmare on Elm Street fan Looking at the poster in 1988 and 1989 You were probably curious What the heck Dream Child meant

Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah And what was going on With the fetus in the crystal ball In Freddy's glove Well the people making the film thought the same thing too. That poster came out before they actually had a clear idea what the movie was going to be about beyond its premise and title.

Starting point is 00:22:18 No! Who does that? Who puts out a poster? Who does that? Honestly, okay, after hearing all of this stuff, I feel like they absolutely nailed this for the fact that they had four weeks to shoot, four weeks to edit, filming continuously one stage, then the next, first time major writer, first time. major director like everything that we just poster already was out title was chosen premise wasn't

Starting point is 00:22:45 discovered i mean come on like they really and this movie made money and it was interesting they really really gave it they're all here for what it was you know absolutely the fact that he did that all on his own normally you would have like three to four ades who are like they're you trust him enough to run the other set and oversee special effects even though you're the main you're going to say, hey, okay, and a bunch of stuff. But, like, Bravo. But, like, that's a really big, that's a big, big thing to edit. And I guarantee you back in 89, they didn't have the capability to have a live editor.

Starting point is 00:23:25 Like, when you have to turn around a movie really fast, like, you guys know the movies that are released by different companies, am I going to say any names, they get movies out really fast. They have a live editor that literally a car comes. I think there's no issue in calling out Lifetime and Hallmark and places like. that because that's unbelievable what they do. It's incredible what they do. It's like and moving moving moving. You take a card out of the camera. It's full. You give it to a live editor who's in a room on set and currently editing and sinking footage at the same time and trying

Starting point is 00:23:55 to edit scenes to send it to the actual editor is going to put together the movie. Back at 89, I guarantee you they did not have that. So like bravo for getting it done and for like that's insane to me. I mean they were probably still going over. dailies but yeah i think you're right i think it just probably looked very different then and the fact that they had eight weeks total for production and editing yeah and the previous movie had eight weeks had eight weeks for to film i mean this is just they and shout out huge we just gave credit to the behind the scenes teams but massive massive shout out to the actors because what that means is that they did everything in one or two takes that means that they did not have time to say

Starting point is 00:24:35 can i try it this way like there's no way on this in a four week shoot that they had time to be like, let me do. And I thought they were so cool and so natural. There's a couple scenes where I felt like dialogue bumped a little bit, but there's nothing that was like, what the hell. They really played through here. It's impressive what they did with what this was. Still probably just rating the final package, probably my least favorite of the franchise so far. But I completely understand why I have a lot of respect for this movie, too. Yeah, I understand why I didn't do as well in the box office, why it may be at the top people were excited and then after they were maybe a little disappointed maybe just because the plot wasn't as

Starting point is 00:25:13 clear but I do still think that the kills are so creative in here and the way that they came about doing all of that in the short amount of time it should get a lot more praise than it does I'm with you uh okay final thoughts can't wait for the next one can't wait for the I mean we're we're on board baby give us some freddie Freddie all day can't express this enough guys um when you watch us do a nightmare on elm street the reboot 2010 how just just no we really thought be nice be cool spread hugs love and laugh do you guys know i tell you that you be nice yeah but we literally we thought it was we just went into we're like is this five this is weird be excited because it's it's it's it's gonna be worth it and very funny so just stick with us because we got to make it to that one baby

Starting point is 00:26:01 anyway later rejects Thank you.

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The Reel Rejects - A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 5: THE DREAM CHILD (1989) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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