The Reel Rejects - A WALK TO REMEMBER (2002) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:02 All righty, guys. Let's get to it. Well, well, well, Reject Nation, we just watched A Walk to Remember, saying that for those who are listening to us on Apple or Spotify. Thank you. Rate us on, rate us, by the way, if you are listening to us there. And thank you to our sponsors again for sponsoring the video. Help support the channel in a wonderful way. Walk to remember. Walk to remember. I've been wanting to watch this movie for a long time. Did not know the plot of it. All I heard was that it was a touching film, which I expect when a, you know, romantic drama has been praised for so long. And throughout this journey, I had a really fun time watching it. Surprisingly fun in spite of its heart-wrenching aspects that come in the latter half. of the movie, despite its predictability. Like, I don't know what the trailers were.

Starting point is 00:02:06 Like, did the trailers reveal? Yeah, I can't remember. That she has leukemia? Because I don't recall any of that. I can't remember if they revealed any of that or if they just made it look like some kind of desperate romance, like some really sort of soaring, emotional romance. Because the reveal comes in so late into the movie that it's, like a twist in a way and even on IMDB it says two North Carolina teens

Starting point is 00:02:35 Landon Carter and Jamie Sullivan are thrown together after landing gets into trouble and a sentence to perform community service not a thing about the leukemia so either we're just geniuses who pick up on things super fast there's a couple of giveaways you know like there's no there's three good observation free spirited side of the age that she had and the confidence in the to-do list and then the dad just that we hit that one I don't remember what that line was there was something about like you let me choose my own life yeah holy shit she died like you just got it dawned on me there and uh I think that like it's it's a weird movie because in the first half of it that's when it feels the most dated

Starting point is 00:03:20 it was the most dated with his music tracks it's kind of like let me the sort of aggressiveness of throwing you into this I think the movie's trying to throw you into Shane West's perspective with the music choices and the quote unquote grittiness of how it's shot

Starting point is 00:03:41 to show you the rawness of this guy's angst and emotions how edgy this guy is that's when it's like the most cheesy with probably in a way that I was always enjoying

Starting point is 00:03:55 it's not what I actually expected at all at the outset yeah it plays like a more budgeted cw drama of the time at the time when it was just a wb drama like a dawson's creek or something like that you know what i mean yeah yeah had that quality to it because it was pg but it played like a like a pg 13 yeah yeah but not because of any like you know stuff your parents will object to but just because it gets real yeah acknowledge it some real life stuff and then while you know the character journeys of uh yeah he'll start to change via his relationship with her and and then even when the tires start picking out that she's going to die like ah you can kind of see where these beats are going at the end of the day i

Starting point is 00:04:40 always come down to what is the emotional affect of the execution at hand and the more of the movie went along the more it starts becoming like a real movie and a and a a movie that whenever they didn't have like these music tracks where it started feeling genuine even even the scenes in that first half they would feel genuine and the trajectory of the chemistry plays like where Shane west landon and her and Mandy Moore's Jamie are at in the first half of the film still feels very believable in their dynamic to when they do start to fall in love and the transformation he does start to go to, that does actually feel believable.

Starting point is 00:05:23 Again, as telegraphed as it is, it also still rang not just perfunctory. It actually rang like, oh, there's real performances here with real, real stellar acting, and with a romantic film like Hauser Chemistry, and they have great chemistry here. And, you know, it's about creating those memories.

Starting point is 00:05:43 Unlike those kind of movies, those messages. And I said during the end of the reaction, And there was a story that there was like photos of it online about this couple. I believe how the story went is that they did get engaged in the middle. I think it was like it was either she got diagnosed with cancer and then they got engaged or they got engaged first. Either way, wanted to make sure to get married. So they had like a big wedding and like the photos her and her, like at the, the wedding event and she has like the oxygen mask on and she's like her hands are up in the air

Starting point is 00:06:21 still managed to say the i do and she unfortunately passed a few hours later but the point was to finally to get that thing that off the list yeah and to create that memory yeah this yeah loving gesture yeah it's beautiful so you know it i think this movie kind of came into my life at the right time because i had never heard of a couple doing that prior it's always something and And I imagine if I had just seen this movie, I would go, that's for the cinemas. You know, sure, sure. That's for the cheesy Nicholas Sparks novels. And yet after hearing, oh, this happened in real life not long ago.

Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah. And then to see this room, I'm like, oh, this is now even, this is registers. There's even more sincere in a lot of ways. Oh, sure. So, yeah, I think that this was a really touching, really sweet movie. And, yeah, a great reminder to that it's not, it is about the journey. is about the impact of love and how long you can let that gestate in you. I think there's a lot of great moments here with great acting.

Starting point is 00:07:24 I think Mandy Moore, I've always known as an actress than a singer, even though I know that's the inverse for a lot of people. Yeah, for sure. And I can't think of another Shane West movie. Yeah. He's in League of Extraordinary gentlemen. Oh, is he a lot?

Starting point is 00:07:39 And I mean, I don't know, at least looking at his IMDB pick, he looks very different now than he did then. So maybe I've seen him and just not. realize that you know really yeah because he's got like a full beard or at least again the picture they've got up here for him he's got like a beard and a cool guy hair kit yeah because yeah there's some like cheesy stuff in here of course like a lot of stuff with darrell hannah is the mom in the beginning he's like so you got to talk to your dad you know yeah there there are a lot of beats that are very kind of like stock high school movie oh the black guy the definition of token black

Starting point is 00:08:13 guy yeah which is like such a most dated aspects of this whole experience yeah with just like a one track mind to his character although i did appreciate that like despite all that he is like the only like he has that little sweet moment at the end when his ex-girlfriend brings the photos by and he does make up with the one other guy but but like really eric i think his name is like he is the one friend who does kind of come around in a way that actually feels like it's part of the movie and i was I was like, oh, it's kind of nice, even though everything up till now has been a cardboard cut out of a character. Yeah. I really think Shane West and Mandy Moore elevate these characters.

Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah, especially Mandy Moore. Like Shane West had, by all accounts from just a writing perspective, it seems like Shane West had way more to chew on, even though you would think maybe Mandy Moore with like the weight of having leukemia in her performance. but you know they for the most part of that that kind of character i think could have easily been played in a way that was just one or two notes you know yeah and i think mandy more really made her feel human and in a way that uh i found zero judgment towards in in the sense of how i think a lot of other translations of a character like that would just feel a little I don't know sappy or cheesy or

Starting point is 00:09:42 or like yeah we get it like this was a character this was a character I think easily could have been I don't know under it could have been one of two ways it could have been like

Starting point is 00:09:53 severely undercooked or way overdone in the niceness of the character but there was a lot of strong agency with the character it was very sincere performance there was confidence but it was a sadness underneath

Starting point is 00:10:04 I thought she really brought a lot of like really provided a lot of the multile layers that the character required as well as Shane West but Shane West I thought had that more in the writing as well so it gave him more to like really work off of and he's constantly changing yeah yeah and then the chemistry of them together was really strong uh throughout like I thought they were excellent but even like the tropes of reverend father and uh you know the ex-girlfriend the douchebag friend there's it was a trope heavy movie but I keep going back to the same point it's about It's about the journey.

Starting point is 00:10:39 And the journey itself was very touching. I was touched, John. Touched by an angel. I fell in love with Mandy Moore. Touched by a Shane Joel. Shane Joel. I fell in love with her in his movie.

Starting point is 00:10:50 I thought she was great. Yeah, she's the... I love posters with this competing top billing thing that they do. Oh, God. Yeah. Where it's like, Shane West is top billing, but people read left her rights.

Starting point is 00:10:59 We're going to put Mandy Moore. The left side. Yeah. So who is the real top billing? And I've always been fascinated by the... There's a lot of behind the scenes where people would compete for like, who gets the real top billing? And I got on rush hour or two, you would buy the DVD and it was Chris Tucker. But on VHS, it was Jackie Chan.

Starting point is 00:11:19 Certain screenings, it was actually reversed. There's a real competition for top billing. And here you can see the same thing happening is Shane West. It's like, he's top billing, but people read left to right. So from Andy Moore to the left. I wonder if there was some behind the scenes conflict. I don't know. It was a really ugly lead up to the release with them feuding it out.

Starting point is 00:11:42 Agents get ugly about that shit, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I bet, I bet. I mean, yeah, no, I totally agree. I feel like Mandy Moore is, like, the core of the movie. And then everything else is kind of enchanted. The more it sort of orbits closer to her in a way. It's like, you know, when she walks through, she's this kind of breath of fresh air in con.

Starting point is 00:12:04 Like, I have a, I'm still chewing on, like, the, the, way the movie is executed tonally in many respects, but I do think that throughout the movie, there is a really nice contrast that is often created between everything else happening and Mandy Moore's presence. And so like whenever she shows up, like from the beginning, like you said, like this character could easily be either a self-righteous cartoon or, you know, a pie-eyed, you know, idealist or something. And I thought the way she played this person very inspired by and committed to her faith rang very true and she rang just like an actual person

Starting point is 00:12:43 in a way that suited both the understated qualities of the character because obviously she's not like the whole point is she's not among the popular kids but also she's not like a pariah either she feels like she didn't just play good-hearted Christian girl yeah she felt like a real character like a real human yeah who is interested and cares about this stuff deeply but that's not just like the only thing her character is.

Starting point is 00:13:09 Can you hit me that laptop, John? Oh, who's there. You got it, John. Here we go, here we go. Thanks, buddy. For show. And so, yeah, like the more her presence, you know, becomes prominent on screen, I just really got caught up in all of that because it's like, you know, at first it's the friction between her and Shane West.

Starting point is 00:13:30 And it's a game back and forth of watching them, you know, sort of grow on each. other and she says that whole thing about like you know i'm supposed to be friends somebody i don't like uh and i thought that was like a really nice dynamic that made for a nice transition in terms of the tone because i felt like the first half or at least the first half hour anyway first half hour 45 minutes did have you know that bounce here yeah high school movie kind of energy where it is more about like oh we got the needle drops and stuff like that and i'm i think ultimately the way the movie resolved itself and the way it does lay down a few clues like manages to keep it from being too manipulative or cloying and the you know revealing of it

Starting point is 00:14:14 all um that's what i mean it really teetered on the line like it's gonna be some like pretentious as shit because if you surprise us with tragedy at the very end you know like that can be you know kind of yeah either pretentious or just you know you can lose people too by doing that and so i thought ultimately it was nice to spend like probably at least an hour of the movie or more before you actually get the confirmation of it and I thought in the middle especially in the middle toward like the three quarter mark I would say I felt like they really hit this stride where they had a lot of nice breathing room in the scenes to let the camera linger and to let the space between them and the you know sort of nervous anticipation between them really

Starting point is 00:15:03 kind of steep the flavors and stuff. And then, you know, as we got toward the end, it started to really pick back up again. And like there are instances, it's like I get torn on certain choices they make because I really liked, obviously, the wedding is such a lovely culmination for everything. And I really like that sequence.

Starting point is 00:15:19 And I, on one hand, appreciate the choice to do these rapid dissolves back and forth between them. But at the same time, a moment like that is one where I'm like, okay, I'm a little removed from just being in the emotion swell because you are doing a lot right now with the form. And I feel like this movie kind of manages to work, like, in spite of that being a thread

Starting point is 00:15:42 throughout, because, like, it's always amusing. And I like that the stuff that's amusing, it doesn't need to be, like, of the utmost quality to make this work. So that's fine. It can be kind of fun and tropey with all of his friends and his, you know, earlier, more edgy, you know, character traits, you know, that need to be confronted. let go of. And so, like, I think there is, like, kind of a really nice contrast because when it does come to just them, you know, really acknowledging and making, you know, good on their romance,

Starting point is 00:16:13 that does feel like an oasis away from everything else. Yeah, yeah. And so, like, even there, even if there are ways you could make this, like, a smoother experience from an assembly perspective, like, there is something kind of lovely about the fact that this does exist in the form that it does so that it can give way to this bright, shining center of their relationship, you know, and the tragedy of that. All right, Reject Nation, let's get real for a moment. Running this channel is incredible. But managing finances, especially taxes and budgeting, both for the channel and my personal

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Starting point is 00:19:55 We shall not just learn no, nay. We shall conquer the world. world of communication. Or as they say in Spanish, communication. We're done with this ad. Well, the first chunk of this movie, I think what they were going for when looking back on the experience, uh, in terms of perspective is the first, like the whole movie is essentially from, uh, I forget his name. Landon. Landon. It's I'm Shane from Shane's experience from Shane's perspective right starts off on his perspective ends on his perspective it's really about his growth and and I mean Mandy Moore's character obviously

Starting point is 00:20:39 has like a growth of achievement as well but she's more of a constant and when you when you watch the movie in the beginning of parts it's mainly from his perspective and then he's interacting with Mandy Moore then it was around the time of the play when they kicked when the movie starts to really find more of a smooth rhythm, I think. Like, I was really enjoying it, though. I was, I'm not just saying, I was really enjoying it, but I could feel some of the choppiness and the weirdness of it. And then when he just starts coming to terms of like,

Starting point is 00:21:13 oh, I want to, like, hang out with this girl, I actually like her. When it starts feeding in to the actual romantic plot of it, you start having perspectives converge together between Mandy Moore and, Shane West and like I think that's what the direction was capturing and so that's the tone and spirit because now it's it's mainly Shane West and now it's about the union of these two

Starting point is 00:21:38 and I think when it becomes about the union of the two is when the movie's strength starts becoming like stronger yeah and it's fascinating because I remember this moment like vividly kind of in what 2002 when this was coming out and like really I don't remember I

Starting point is 00:21:57 I remember all the girls at school talking about it. Or at least, like, you know, I remember it being a thing where, like, everyone, you know, like a lot of people saw it and were talking about it. Like, the notebook was a similar thing. Oh, I love the notebook. I've never seen the notebook. And, like, those were two conversations that I was kind of on the outside of, but just, like, very aware. And at the time, I probably would have been like, oh, this romantic movie for girls. But, like, I wonder if I had seen it in high school or junior high or whatever, if some of those tones.

Starting point is 00:22:27 especially earlier on that are supposed to be kind of in the mindset or seem like representative of the mindset that these kids are trying to go for when they're trying to act cool and edgy. I wonder if that would have played differently

Starting point is 00:22:40 on me as a younger person than it does now. Of course. Yeah, versus, you know, gravitating toward the more younger, John, of course. Well, yeah, I guess so. But, you know, I mean, it's...

Starting point is 00:22:52 I wonder if 20 years ago. Who would have been affected differently? Well, no, no, no, no. Of course, I would have been affected differently. But I mean, like, would I have been more accepting of or felt more sort of like the earlier moments were lived in or true to my experience? You would have punched your balls and said, I'm not getting. Versus, sure, that was me back of the day. That was me.

Starting point is 00:23:13 But, you know, like, with those. Not a lot of fuel. With those. I got two drops coming. You know how it goes. I hear you in the bathroom. That's right. just nothing but pain and anguish.

Starting point is 00:23:30 Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. Perspective aside, though, like, I don't know. I don't know if I would have thought, like, those earlier scenes were kind of cool, you know, back then, and then what that would do to the flow of the movie. But, you know, as it stands here, it felt like studio notes. Sure.

Starting point is 00:23:45 It felt like studio notes of, like, you got to play this song. Well, yeah, it's like we bought all these songs. We got to play them. We have a demographic. We're trying to, you know, play. play to. Yeah, for sure. No, it was the, like, I really thought this movie worked best when they were doing that shit.

Starting point is 00:24:03 When it's just the two of that. Honestly, a lot of time when it's just like, no music at all in the movie is when I think the movie's doing a really good job. That's when I started to notice like, oh, I can hear birds. I can hear just like the sound of the environment. This may you want to visit North Carolina. I'm like, I don't even know if it's shot. There should be Canada for all I know. But it made me go or go to North Carolina.

Starting point is 00:24:22 It's anything like this, you know. I really like the two of them together a lot. I liked Peter Coyote a lot in the moments between him and Shane West. And I like that they didn't play that for stereotype sake kind of whatsoever for the most part. Like I feel like, again, Preacher Dad is an easy one to be like, oh, the folly of you is that, you know, you're so high and mighty that you can't, you know, open your heart up to people running. And they didn't make any of that too cliche or anything like that. And I really liked that's what I mean by the, like this movie could have always. punched up the melodrama of the performances, and they never did.

Starting point is 00:24:58 Yeah. And I really respect the movie for doing that, because that's normally when I'd be eye-rolling or laughing at the movie. That's the thing. It's like, sometimes I was laughing at the movie for the choices they were making and directing and editing, but I never laughed at the movie for the performances. Exactly. That's why it works, I think, because the most important things are the things they got right.

Starting point is 00:25:17 And it was able to save the experience. Except for the black guy. That was the hard one, man. That was the right. That was absolutely the right That was some serious like Oh my God This is like the definition

Starting point is 00:25:29 Of what they make fun of When you say token black guy Yeah like to a T All this guy talks about his sex In one way or another He never takes anything seriously Yeah And yeah

Starting point is 00:25:44 It's like it's funny to me Because when we started the movie The tone was very much I expected this to be sappy Or at least like trying to be dramatic and touching the entire time. Yeah, yeah. And so, like, I was taken aback at first

Starting point is 00:25:56 by, like, how kind of cookey some of this is, or how dated some of it feels in its energy. But that actually does, yeah, make for a fun dynamic when the movie gives way. And again, respect to the fact that, yeah, it's those two performances in particular, especially

Starting point is 00:26:12 Mandy Moore, and just, like, in line with his character growth, the more the character of Landon grows, the more I liked Shane West's performance. And, yeah, just the calm of everything you know I think that's a thing about cinema is like yeah

Starting point is 00:26:28 if you can get a lot of things questionably but if you just get the right couple of things right that's kind of the key to everything I think this is an excellent example or something like that thousand percent man yeah it's like the heart is in the right place and it never betrayed that and

Starting point is 00:26:43 and yeah the thing that could feel cheesy has felt the most kind of lived in and real and like they really took care with it I do wish we got a little bit more with the dad. Yes, I don't explain something. Because like the dad was,

Starting point is 00:26:56 like the context of Daryl Hannah as the mom was just, you need to talk with your dad. Yeah. And then, like, dad left. That's all we got is dad left us. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:07 And like, you need to forgive him. Why? What? I need some, because like there's that big moment when he hugs and I get that it's about like, ah, they're making up.

Starting point is 00:27:14 But I'm like, ah, you know, but sometimes, sometimes just because your family doesn't mean you should have a relationship. if the person really is like a terrible human being doesn't seem like he's as terrible human being yeah because of the limited things i've seen but i would like to kind of get a little bit

Starting point is 00:27:32 more context as to what how that's why i didn't really feel like i felt for Shane west because the performance is really it was like crying in his arms but i'm like i don't really feel for the moment between these two yeah the complicatedness of it other than you have said it's complicated to me and there's not enough like tone here for me to like feed off of it. of as a viewer. Yeah. You know, I'm like,

Starting point is 00:27:54 yeah, I did a really, really nice thing. But I still feel like there's some resolve that. It makes it. I think there's still still missing resolve because Google leadership

Starting point is 00:28:04 they did a talk about just because he did like a really great thing with his money. Well, and that makes the character feel like a plot mechanic more than an actual part of this guy's life. And it's like it seems like they bothered to make it like, oh, dad is making the effort. Like this is clearly. You understand why Shane West would feel the way that he does, but at the same time, I guess if you're going to not go writ large

Starting point is 00:28:28 and make the dad just terrible, yeah, then I would like to know a little bit more about this, especially... You already ran a handbrake on this? I did. Sweet, that's good to know. What are we talking about? Doesn't matter, guys. And I mean, Darrell Hanna certainly charmed me the more of the movie

Starting point is 00:28:43 went on, but I feel like you got Darrell Hanna. You know, she's a notable actress. She's a talented actress. I feel like... Dude, she's the mom. Who cares? Would be... But...

Starting point is 00:28:50 No, John. But she's a single mom and he's falling in love. That's a perfect opportunity. And I feel like, from a psychological standpoint, there's like some rich things you can like mine from here, you know? And then his mom can marry her dad. It's like the way he talks about her. I'm like,

Starting point is 00:29:08 I feel like you would have attracted like a great woman like Mandy Moore forever ago with the kind of mom you have. Yeah. It doesn't seem like you guys are that dysfunctional or like struggle. Like, yeah, you struggle to communicate some, but it seems like you're much more on her side of like your parental relationship so but i love the relationship between them i thought i love how like the dad and him got along by the end even them like reuniting at the very end and the gift that they were able to both give each other uh in terms of mandy moor and chain west i thought was really

Starting point is 00:29:40 strong so yeah guys i loved a lot about it gave me everything i really wanted and surprised me in a lot of ways while also being predictable it's kind of crazy how you can do that predictable beats but interesting, surprising executions. But tell us, what do you guys think about a walk to remember? Leave your thoughts down below. Tell us some other movies you recommend from the romantic comedy or romantic drama side because I've seen a good amount. I have.

Starting point is 00:30:04 I've seen a lot of like on my own time. And, but, you know, there's still a lot on the list that I have. I'm just like, hey. I haven't. Hey, there's tons I haven't seen, man. Come melt my iron. I do. We got to do the notebook.

Starting point is 00:30:19 Let's do the notebook. This might be the only one who hasn't seen it. Not to be a solo one. Oh, well, good. That's a movie to watch by yourself. I guess it is, though. I'm going to bring the box of tissues. I'm going to get a big old jugger.

Starting point is 00:30:32 It's the first reaction I do a jug of ice cream with. I love that movie. People, hey, it's prolific. It is a, it's a titan of the genre. They're like, almost. They're like chemistry. That's Ryan Gosling with everyone. I know.

Starting point is 00:30:48 We should all be so lucky. All right. All right, guys. Talk to you'll soon.

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