The Reel Rejects - AHSOKA EPISODE 3 Breakdown, Review, & Ending Explained | Star Wars Rebels

Episode Date: August 30, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:59 Oh man. I was really enjoying that. Yeah. Too short. That was way too short. Too short. But definitely leaves you wanting more. Yeah. We're on the right way. Yeah. We're on the right track. Yeah. We're on the right track. Let's chat. I mean, it's pretty obvious that they're sending up Jason for a future spinoff show where he's going to want to become a Jedi guys. That's my big takeaway. I've ever been happening in this episode. I got one takeaway. Yeah. Setting up the new Canaan show. And they can make their own, like, young Avengers, get Grogu, get old Jason. Come on, you know, they're going to do it with some characters. Well, you know, he could end up at the Jedi Temple and, you know, everything goes great. It looks Jedi Temple. This is what happens. This is what happens. And then Kylo Ren kills them all.
Starting point is 00:02:47 That would be great. Get a fun side of Kylo. Yeah. I, the more. Kylo friend. Kylo friend. It would be fun to. depending on how this pans out
Starting point is 00:03:00 to have a large group of characters end up in this other galaxy permanently as to explain their absence in the sequel trilogy. Yeah, because that's going to bug me forever. Big time. The only issue is the ghost Harrah's ship is in the sequel trilogy.
Starting point is 00:03:19 It's at the Battle of Exigal. I overall really like this episode a lot. I had a lot of fun with this one. It It was, it felt, it had that actual, that spirit, that genuine spirit and wonder of what I thought Mandalorian season three was often kind of like fail at and feel rushed during. Yeah. This didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Yes, it's a short episode, but still, I felt the substance of it. And I genuinely had a really good time. Am I like on the edge of my seat in terms of like suspense? No. but in terms of absorbing the adventure, I really feel the absorption of that. And I'm really finding myself much more endeared. Because the last two, you know, had a more serious tone, which is not a problem to me at all. Like, overall, I loved it while I had a little bit of gripes in terms of, and I know some people have a pushback on this.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I feel like there's a divide here. I've noticed some people have echoed our opinions of some of that stoism that. I was like, I could use a little bit just more pep in the personality in some way. And I thought this really brought it with, with Asoka and Sabine and the chemistry. Like, I really felt the chemistry between them this time. Yeah. And I found myself really enjoying the whole training segments with them, especially at the very top of this episode. And then watching as Asoka, again, being the master learning from your Padawan, similar to, like, how, like, you know, Asoka.
Starting point is 00:04:54 was paired up with Anakin. So Anakin could learn something about himself as well. And now you're watching that trajectory unfold. And while like that's part of the package usually with the master of Padawan, this really feels like, okay, specifically with Anakin to Asoka and now for Asoka to Sabine, it is just as much about the master learning about themselves and how to be as well as the Padawan on top of that too. So I really, I really like this one a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:24 the future where it's headed towards and when they finally reveal that that was Ezra under the mask the whole time. It's nice to see Asoka because I was doing a lot of thing about it. You know, and I think everybody in the comments section agreed.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Like, Assoca's like a very, I don't say uptight, but not the traditional, friendly, happy, vibrant Asoka that we knew in the early seasons of the Clone Wars. And, you know, you can only imagine the trauma that it is of having somebody that you're so close with that you know on such a personal deep
Starting point is 00:06:00 intimate level only for them to fall the way that Anakin did and i think something that we're going to continue to explore is between the relationship between asoka and sabine part of the reason that assoc is struggling to be a real master is because that level of being vulnerable is something that I think she's scared to get hurt again. And it's not that she doesn't care about Sabine. It's just that it's, you know, what if I do this wrong and, you know, my Padawan goes to the dark side.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Well, yeah, the last time, between Rebels to Mandalorian, the last time we saw Soca in the animated format, other than the ending tease, the cliffhanger, was that she just got the revelation of Anakin is Darth Vader. Yeah. And you can only imagine the amount of emotional trauma. And put through space and time, missed several years of her life.
Starting point is 00:06:58 She went through some trauma. It makes sense to me. I think some people misunderstand if I say, like, I don't think stoic is necessarily bad. Yeah. And I think that there is, there's kind of like a multi-layer that I was sort of craving, I guess, is what more. Because I'm like, no, it makes sense to me that she would be different based off of what she went through. Like, of course you would be different. And we're starting to see the dimensions of the relationship and the nuance of it.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And I really appreciate what you said about that. Because I think we're going to continue to see that evolution. I'm glad that Hera, and I can't believe I'm saying this, isn't coming along for this leg of the journey, if only to give those to the room for their relationship to really having just them, if only for an episode or two, is really, really important to. that relationship developing in a big way. I did want to say that I felt like Hera's portrayal. Number one, I think on an acting level, doing an amazing job. I just remember her being so much better at politics, though. That was something that was when we see her evolution as like the leader of Phoenix Squadron and the rebel cell and then the introduction to the larger rebel
Starting point is 00:08:17 organization. I feel like she was so good at navigating the nuance and the politics of it all, only to just, like, not necessarily be on her game. And part of me wonders if that, you know, is an intentional trying to show that, you know, in the absence of Canaan, in the absence of, you know, the family that she's built, that she's kind of pulling at strings for, you know, what she longs for and misses. But I thought that. that dynamic is really interesting. The New Republic, I just, I think they need to do something to make me
Starting point is 00:08:53 care about it. And they have a need to do something to give the New Republic like a POV or something more than them just going, it's fine. We're the New Republic, and that's it. Some kind of, I think, in the same way that, like, Mon Mothma
Starting point is 00:09:08 and Or did, like, such a good job at making the rebellion feel more dynamic and interesting. I'm not saying like I want like a political thriller, but I want to show that not every single person in the new Republic government is an absolute idiot. Right. Because right now it's being set up as that. And it's just, it's been consistently unrewarding time and time again where it's like, wow, these are just a bunch of bureaucratic idiots, which makes everything that was fought for feel so sad. Like, what about all
Starting point is 00:09:41 the boffin spies that died to get them that information? But, well, yeah, I mean, I guess the part of it that lacks of believability area because like yeah I get the whole turn in the blind eye thing history repeating itself and whatnot is specifically regarding the empire like the fact that they have these former empire people as
Starting point is 00:10:00 employees and stuff and they're just like no it's been fun they're all over the place it's working out not a questionable thing about allegiance or anything of that regard just like no there's just like one off what did you doubt with
Starting point is 00:10:15 they're fully doubt with the plan. I think what the new republic is missing, narratively, because, like, there's a, they're always drawing from history. And so the historical presidents here is like, yeah, we employed an extraordinary amount of Nazis after World War II because we were scared of the Soviets. I think the issue is there's, like, no, they're just like, yeah, it's just tough times, you know, a lot of transitions and things.
Starting point is 00:10:38 And there's no, you know, and here we are creating an existential potential crisis, something that contests to the new republic, something that, uh, it's just a new republic, something that, uh, And just instantly, they're like, yeah, we're not going to take one of our most trusted generals' advice. Right, right. And like, Mon Mothma, you're the chancellor. Like, you know, I'm sure they've stripped the powers down significantly since Jar Jar. But like, you know, anyway, I do want to talk about the Inquisitor for a minute, if that's okay. Sure.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Because I've been thinking endlessly about it. And while my hope, narratively speaking, is that it's still Barris. I do really, really like the idea of Sam Whitmer, who played Maul and among many other characters and also voiced Star Killer in Force Unleashed. I do love the idea of them bringing a version of that character to live action. And the reason I love that is because, for those that played Force and Leashed,
Starting point is 00:11:38 Star Killer was Vader's apprentice. And I think, narratively, for Asoka, who is Anakin's apprentice, to go head to head with somebody who was Vader's apprentice would create such a fascinating dynamic. Definitely. And if it's Ezra, I will lose my mind because narratively that makes absolutely no sense that is such a waste.
Starting point is 00:12:02 That's weird. I feel like it actually does make sense in terms of if Ezra was actually with Thron and was able to see... Because you see, the problem is... So you're saying Thron's on the right side of history. I'm saying the... I got it.
Starting point is 00:12:14 The nuance that you speak about, to Thron is present in the books and stuff. That's not present in rebels. He's very much a bad guy in Rebel. I think for the most part, he's a bad guy. We're in the books. Yes. Let me
Starting point is 00:12:30 let me let me very verbally out loud. Yes. I think Throne is a bad guy who does bad things. I think Throne became a bad guy who does bad things because he's scared of something. Yeah, definitely. That is a thousand
Starting point is 00:12:44 percent. Yeah. But I think like the The nuance complexity where one can strongly argue that, like, hey, he's not necessarily just a black and white villain. I feel like there is a way he can play in influence, and especially with Ezra, who has often been teased with the dark. Teased by lured to the dark side many times, I feel like the dark side can take hold of Ezra. Especially in the absence of his friends and where he thinks he's doing something good. I agree on a narrative level that when we get to the other galaxy that, we will find an Ezra who may very well be aligned with
Starting point is 00:13:20 Thron. What I don't think is that that Ezra somehow managed to travel back to this galaxy didn't let his friends know. I just, I don't, I don't see any rational, logical explanation. I just explained it perfectly
Starting point is 00:13:38 played it out. I do think. Solid plan. I went on the subway. Very, I do feel very confident though that the Ezra Pritcher that that we know. I'm enjoying this. This is so much fun to watch you guys. The Ezra Bridger that we find in this other galaxy,
Starting point is 00:13:55 I think you're absolutely right in that he'll probably be aligned with Thrawn. They'll probably be working together, and that will probably be really challenging for Sabine, who's probably finally coming into her own with the Force, and he's like, I'm finally a Jedi, and wait, the Jedi admire most in the world, is working with the evil villain. John John.
Starting point is 00:14:14 John yawned John John John John Grand Admiral Yon That's my name Don't worry it out John what did you think I'm so curious I mean I have so many thoughts
Starting point is 00:14:30 about this very straightforward action-oriented episode I mean I liked you know I feel like we should almost just stay on conspiracy track now I mean I thought this did a nice job The loveliest thing this did was
Starting point is 00:14:44 portray an action-based situation that the whole time, to me anyway, did feel like a character building and a team-building exercise. And I think the ideal, you know, it's easy to dazzle. In fact, across all of these shows of debatable quality, we've gone and seen different dog fights and recontextualized versions of other action set pieces we've seen before. And I thought this did nicely to make something that was visually gripping and exciting, But that also, yeah, feels like you are watching two people mend some aspect of their relationship or open back up to each other as well as, as you guys pointed out, learning the new things, one, that Padawan needs to learn from their master and two, that master needs to learn from the overall situation and from Padawan in general. Yeah, but who's the Inquisitor? It's Ezra Bridger, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:36 No, it's not, John. It's the ghost of Han Solo. He's not dead yet. Dead yet. No, but we're going to get time travel. We do already have time travel. Oh, yeah. See, then Hans' ghost time traveled back and he became the Inquisitor.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I was pretty convinced for a minute that Baylon was just an alt history, Anakin Skywalker, from a different parallel universe. For a millisecond, I was convinced. I feel like the gray Jedi aspects of Baylon and great character actors. she's honestly so good for the fact that we don't know her name I think she's extroated I feel like she
Starting point is 00:16:19 I feel like they are representative of just help set us up for when we do see Ezra Bridger that these people are not just like black and white they're Sith you know that they're not that we're setting up a way where they are yes
Starting point is 00:16:37 they use dark side stuff but they really believe they're doing it for a great cause, you know? And I am wondering why Morgan Elspeth, though, really is so adamant on serving Thron that I am wondering if there's more... Because, like, we're opening up the realm of magic now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I mean, it's always existed, but, you know, there's always been like this weird subsection. We never really explored magic in, like, the live-action stuff, and I'm kind of wondering if that's going to be the... There's some type of battling. a magic that we're ultimately building to and I feel like there is something linked to like that
Starting point is 00:17:17 what's it in Marvel it's like wizards aliens what's the phrase that they use and robots and robots that's what we're that's what they're doing here I am just curious of like what is that planet that wherever Thron is on if there are other
Starting point is 00:17:33 is that where the magic comes from so that's to play into that my kind of like head canon theory at this point, is they have taken the time now to say that, according to the Jedi, there used to be multiple intergalactic hyperspace lanes. Intergalactic, hyperspace. Hyperspace intergalactic.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Which raises the question, are there night sisters? Are there Jedi of a different type that exist in these other galaxies? And is there just a much larger narrative at play than what we've been? There are people who, it's like Zootopia, but everyone has the force and they're just... Well, yeah, but that's kind of the interesting. So like, I mean, even in like... The force isn't special.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Everyone has. But even like, you know, in talking about like the Chess and the unknown regions, which is still in this galaxy, like, that's drawn species. You know, they have a group of force sensitive youth who are called the Skywalker Corps. And like, they help navigate
Starting point is 00:18:35 through these hyperspace lanes and the, you know, the difficulties of the unknown region using the force. And so, but they have no other exposure to the Jedi. Right. And so I think if we're exploring other galaxies where the force still exist, we will see other interpretations of how the force manifest in different societies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Which I think leads perfectly into what you're saying about, like, well, there'll be some interesting conversations between magic and the force and what that looks like. You know, but ultimately... You'll find out it's constructed in a lap. Uneasy. Yeah, it's been a course. Obviously. drink your force juice the boys yeah it's gen v i think
Starting point is 00:19:14 i think ultimately what we're we're looking at though this uneasy alliance between balin and morgan and company thron um asra and i think soon asoka and sabine and maybe luke maybe You know, Grogut and Dingerian and company. I mean, because the other thing that we have to think about here is that these, this is what he's, he said,
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