The Reel Rejects - ALICE IN BORDERLAND Seaason 2 Episode 7 & 8 REVIEW!! 今際の国のアリス

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Starting point is 00:01:43 episode seven, three to one, I clicked it. All righty, guys. If you're listening to us on Albar Spotify, please give us a five. star rating thank you to prepper for helping edit down these videos we super appreciate them um like comment subscribe when you do ring the bell ring the bell um go listen to my new

Starting point is 00:02:12 podcast the rage pod if you can um you want to shout anything out um yeah i am in a game called crystal rail there's a kick starter that you can go check out and uh yeah support us it's an indie and it's really cool about trains and I play a really dope character called The Grease Fish. So, yeah, I would love to play that with y'all someday. But, yeah, that's the main thing. Your character is called The Grease Fish? Yeah. Ha!

Starting point is 00:02:44 Okay, that's cool. Yeah, I'm really excited about it. It's my first Vio gig, my first video game. So, yeah, it's really exciting. Okay. Love it. All right. We're going to hop right into our.

Starting point is 00:02:57 our patron questions. First is London. She said, hey, did you guys expect the King of Spades to be a death flag for most of the cast? No, I did not. Yeah, I was really curious. The way they build up the secrecy of the identity, I thought it was going to be some major reveal for a character that we had come across at some point in the cast. But no, he's just a guy who was bald with a cool blue eye and he was real efficient and murdering. that was very shocking and um it was cool was a really great fight scene and i thoroughly enjoyed

Starting point is 00:03:33 it but yeah i i was engaged but also like oh okay and that's kind of what my my feelings were on that but as far as it killing awful out of our characters no i did not see that coming what was you yeah no definitely didn't see that coming um but uh in the beginning of the season and the other season we were like well this show they have no rules so now they started fall into that again i guess with this death flag per se of killing off you know our favorite characters or getting them shot um but yeah no totally unexpected for me next question from j rushden like you wake up by a meteorite crash please check your insurance question what character personality are you the most like in the show It's a good question.

Starting point is 00:04:30 I don't know. It's a toughie. I like the characters. I'm like, do I feel like I am any of the characters? I don't know. I like the blonde did a lot. He was very, very cool, calculated. I can't say that I am him, but like, I want to be him.

Starting point is 00:04:51 Yeah, I know. Far from it. who are you there i don't know man i was like maybe it'd be like um a mixture of his buddies they're like drinking and having fun yeah like i don't know i mean they're they're cool to support each other's yeah like they love each other through whatever their situations are so yeah i think that's probably be myself you know i love my friends i'm very supportive friends so yeah i think his friends who died those would be the people i say i'm the most like love it all right

Starting point is 00:05:27 resonance z i never thought the choice at the end was too hard to make the borderlands is just filled with death and loss which choice would you have made can you think of why anyone would choose to stay in borderlands glad you guys got to watch the show and i can't wait for the final season um i probably would choose to go back i don't want to i don't want to just we're surrounded by death and decay and just no internet all the time i would suck i mean i feel like you know a lot of the people that would decide to stay because that they have this um i don't know the this dark need for escape and you know feeling a sense of freedom

Starting point is 00:06:12 in that world of death and i feel like they're about finding a sense of purpose of the i imagine and it'd be the first time I actually felt alive, given that they survive all the games that were afoot, right? So if that was the case, and I was just, like, kind of meandering and just, like, had no... I don't even know friends, but if I just didn't have a reason to live, I probably would stay.

Starting point is 00:06:39 But because, you know, I'm pretty grateful for the life that I have. It's not perfect, but, you know, I consider myself fortunate. So I would probably want to go back. I'd be a little traumatized, but, you know, I can get some therapy. How about you? Okay. Sorry, I keep you honest.

Starting point is 00:06:59 You guys. I don't know what's going on. I'm tired. I'm tired and it's freezing in here. The choice I would have made would be to come back. I can, the reasons why I think people would choose to stay, I know that we saw them go around and, like, they couldn't find food in apartments and they were hungry a lot of the time. But like, with U.S.

Starting point is 00:07:18 soggy. It's like she knew how to hunt. They were pretty self-sufficient if it wasn't for the ending of the visa that they would have to go play games. So I'm like, well, I think that there is a way to live off of the land. I'm sure that they would figure it out. Maybe that would be why the people would want to stay, right? They're disconnected from the internet, from phones, from work like they don't have to deal with a job or like people they don't like you're just sort of off on your on your own living off the grid which I think that would be why people would want to stay there but that's only I think that people are saying I will accept permit residents here because the games are like over right you're just basically saying you will

Starting point is 00:08:11 live in this dilapidated land yeah um and figure it out like I highly doubt that every store you'd have to get a backpack and do some hiking has been like ransacked and doesn't have any food oh but then it's all spoiled it's all spoiled you know i don't know i don't know i i don't know but that's as far as i got with that like i probably would have said yeah let's go back i don't really get it here like what the f is going on um and i'm glad like oh sorry Sorry. I'm glad it'll be the final season because I'm also very excited to watch it as well as you are residency, but I'm a little at this point of like, where are they going to go? I understand that we have the Joker there, but how different is it going to be, right? Or is it you kind of have to like not give us what we would expect to.

Starting point is 00:09:17 see in the first two seasons you've got to switch it up and I'm not quite sure how they're going to do that yeah I'm not sure how they're going to do that and why people would go back or the circumstances in which people would go back no I'm going to it's contagious I

Starting point is 00:09:34 no it's good it feels I need to say yeah I don't I don't know but I'm curious I have feelings about this second season here and how things unfolded.

Starting point is 00:09:53 But I am still very curious to see how they're going to wrap it all up definitively. Will it continue to be the same number of episodes? Will it still be eight? Will they still all be like an hourish long? Are all of our characters going to return for season three? I don't know. But I'm still very

Starting point is 00:10:09 curious because I want to see more games. And yeah, will we get a further sense of development because yeah I feel like a show like this in the mystery box of it only has a certain longevity

Starting point is 00:10:27 so I think if we know what the thing is it kind of takes some of that away unless they find a way to kind of reinvent that and add new you know dimensions to it right yeah that's kind of how I'm feeling right now

Starting point is 00:10:40 what about you um yeah I mean obviously you know in the last episode, you know, people getting shot from an inch away with an oozy and still surviving. It's a little ridiculous. Like we were making jokes about the plot armor. But they didn't really, they didn't do that in the first season or some of the earlier games. I think maybe we were running out of characters to kill off and actually kill them off because I don't I don't know. That was weird to me because it didn't fully make sense, but I was willing to write it

Starting point is 00:11:14 off because they hadn't done that before there wasn't in other episodes or other games where it was like bro you just got shot in the head and you're still like kicking it like that that hadn't happened before so for the season finale you know I'm like cool I'll let it go right they they bled out or something um that was one one issue but I think mainly these last two episodes we're Very, I mean, especially this last one, was very, like, trippy. I was like, oh, this is a mind F game. All right, let's go. Not really what I expected.

Starting point is 00:11:57 I kind of think I expected more of like a King of Spades thing. I really like that scene and choreography. I get it. It's realistic that they would all die. But I kind of wanted the last fight to be, like, savage with all of us, you know? to sort of like get it out but i'm still happy with the way that they they wrote certain things and i think the king of spades whole thing at the at the end was a lot of fun to watch and good choreography and all that jazz but yeah i feel like now that we've finished season two and i had

Starting point is 00:12:34 no word that season ended um i think overall i enjoyed season one more and i feel as though there are points in season two where this this question of like life and death and what is the what is our purpose and why do we keep going on i felt like we kept having different variations of the same conversation um and i also felt like the beginning of season one was so enthralling and kind of kept us on the edge of our sea because they killed off people we thought were going to be main characters in the third episode of the series they sure did and that really set a tone for establishing that anybody can go and then season two sort of backtracked on that and now everybody has plot armor so the stakes were sort of diminished in that sense because they didn't hold true to what they established in season one and the courage that you know that hooked us in the first place yeah so i would have liked more people to have i would have liked more people to have died and it sounds like a weird thing to say but I felt like because we had these characters who we thought that at the end of the season

Starting point is 00:13:46 one came back with no explanation like oh I just cheated death and you know girl gets shot in the face with a oozy and she's back and I know it was I don't actually wasn't but she's she's crawling back and also the beginning of the season where the the king of spades is shooting them he's killing all these NPCs but when he's right behind them in the car he doesn't shoot anybody I was like that's kind of wild um but that's that's said i did really still enjoy watching our characters i think they were all diverse and interesting people and seeing their different perspectives and their history in why they fight how they fight and what they fight for all that stuff was interesting i feel like the the second season was

Starting point is 00:14:27 definitely more thematic in that sense about granted those things were in the first season but i think in the second season it really was focusing on this like the metaphysical concept of like what does it mean to be human? What does it mean to have the desires of life? What are we fighting for? What is our purpose? And, you know, that was the essential thing and the glue throughout all these different threads in the season, coupled in, mixing those things in with the different types of games.

Starting point is 00:14:57 And I feel like the types of games were very diverse and interesting. And, yeah, I'm wondering how they're going to build upon that in season three because we do sort of resolve some of those things. You know, I know Iriso is always going to have that survivor's guilt that he deals with and, you know,

Starting point is 00:15:18 that we still have these unresolved threads and feelings with Climer Girl in her past with her dad and whatnot. So there are things that have kind of been left on the table and still mysteries that haven't been resolved,

Starting point is 00:15:30 but the tone of this finale makes you feel like it's over. So I'm wondering how are we going to build upon what we've established? Because I feel like If we... Oh, yeah, re-eagnation.

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Starting point is 00:16:56 Well, except for the Joker card at the end. Yeah, but I'm like, I'm still intrigued, but I'm like, is it going to feel repetitive? It is like we're having these consistent questions, but just, you know, just the same dish cooked in a different way. Right. Totally. Yeah. Because like how are they going to, you know, are they going to, how are they going to switch it up enough to where it's still surprising? They're going to have to take season one risk, meaning episode one, get to know somebody, set up the foundation, tell a good story still.

Starting point is 00:17:30 But you probably got to start killing people off and showing us stuff we haven't seen before. Yeah, and another thing that was like, and like, I don't know to say, not that it bothered me, but because we spent so much time in the dream trippiness of it, you know, like, is it real? Is it not real? And they kind of pull that rug under, pull the rug from under us of what was actually going on so many times. It just as an audience member, I was like, I don't believe anything she says now. So all the, all the stakes of this don't hold any weight. And I know that this is all a means to an end for the game that she established of not quitting.

Starting point is 00:18:08 So we're in this emotional moment. And granted, I know it's about their connection, but the stakes of will he actually die, will he quit? I don't feel them because I feel as though we already established what the parameters are war of the situation, coupled with the fact that it was kind of subverted twice already. But it was still a great scene. I think that the actors really brought it. They did a great emotional job of kind of reaffirming their love and attachment for each other. So that part was beautiful. And maybe that's essentially the whole point of the scene, which maybe by the end of that, it does feel like that was their intention.

Starting point is 00:18:45 But as far as his question, if he was going to lose, I never had a doubt that he was going to not pick continuing the game. Yeah, I mean. I may be a little harsh. I'm sorry, y'all. But I was just got to be honest with my feeling. Well, out of everyone, Aresu obviously definitely has the strongest plot armor. He's always the one that, you know, his friends would always say, you'd be the one to survive. He was always the one to figure out the games.

Starting point is 00:19:14 That was very clear even in episode two, that he was going to put his life before others, and he was probably always going to make it. There's a couple times you're like, meh, until like now, even then when it was like the mind, game there. I was going back and forth. I was like, I don't know if this is, maybe this is real life. She's there and they thought this game in their brain

Starting point is 00:19:41 because there's a freaking photo of it on the wall. Like, I don't know. But, of course, as an audience member, because she had set it up that she's playing games with your mind, that you're like, well, this one is just lasting a lot longer when they're in the psych ward. And they had to push the boundaries a little bit further. to get them to basically say wedding vows on the floor while she's bleeding out like that's what it was like that's was wedding vows um so that hopefully when we have this meet cute at the hospital we feel those feelings big music comes in but then we see joker card

Starting point is 00:20:15 that moment was bittersweet for me because i'm like i'm happy they found each other again but because they don't remember anything they've lost all the development they've go they've kind of uh created over the sense of two seasons he was like yeah he's not he is the guy who lost his friends but without the perseverance of knowing that he's capable of surviving without a strong reason why and the leadership skills he's developed over the course of the two seasons we watched he's just oh i was playing with my friends and now i was in this horrible accident i lost my friends and y'all do we eat this chick in the hospital and everything's laldi da-da now and yeah i hope that they get their memories back at the beginning of season three because i don't know i feel like it it undercuts the journey if they don't hold the hold the memory or hold the the scars or the the growth that they've developed over the course of what they've experienced yeah i'm i'm with you on that i feel like they're trying to give us a little bit saying that yeah they have taken something otherwise there's no reason why i'd give her the change and be like do you know me but i'm like that's like a meet cute in writing that you like you touch someone and you get a vibe so i wonder if they're just

Starting point is 00:21:34 like overly subtle about it by saying that anyone's heart who stopped who obviously went through this experience is going to know or remember a little bit of something um and or will be changed in a in a little bit of a way like right when she goes to see her mom her mom's not dead the dad's alive and he says her name. He caroo or whatever her name was. I know I'm pronouncing it wrong. So there's little changes in everyone's life. We didn't really get to see it with Christia or the other guy, but I mean, that's what season three is for of like, is it just little changes that, oh, we're back in life now and we're thankful. Now we're going to put ourselves out there a little bit more, but not because we remember that we were really close to death,

Starting point is 00:22:27 but because we survived a meteor thing. But my question, what was the point of showing everybody who wanted to go back, but then show those two guys who were like, I want to stay. Where were they?

Starting point is 00:22:45 Remember those the two guys who was in the jack game, the comedy game? They're just like on some hill and they're like, I think I'll stay. And it's like, yeah, I think I'll stay too. I remember that. But were they in the real world when we cut back? No, they weren't.

Starting point is 00:22:55 We didn't see them. So I imagine they'll be in season three. For sure, for sure. You're saying what was the point of showing them that they said they would stay? Yeah. Yeah. I think because we will obviously, yeah, we'll obviously see them for Joker time. And maybe they'll be more advanced because they chose to live in that world.

Starting point is 00:23:19 But if that's only if the games go back there. Yeah. Like, I don't know where the game. are going to go like yeah i don't know i mean there's there's just some there's some like little plot holes in here that if you oh think about it too much which we won't it's just it's a tv show it's good it's entertaining it's just when we got towards the end here i expected i think i expected just a little more i was very shocked we were yelling at the screen a few times They did kill off or stab our favorite characters.

Starting point is 00:23:58 So they did definitely go there. But then they took it back because they were alive. Yeah. It was just sort of like, why aren't they dead yet? Like they were really hanging on. And she got stabbed multiple times. And the other girl had an AK up to her chest, like eight shots right at her. And our guy got shot in the head and fell over.

Starting point is 00:24:19 But then he was only grazed. And I'm like, well, if he's an army man, would he get grazed and fall over and bleed out for a second, then wake up, I don't know. This is why I'm saying like, okay, we're not going to overthink it. We're just going to accept it and be like, this is our reality that we're living in now. And it's still a wildly entertaining show that is always giving us twists and turns that are fully unexpected because of the writing. So I think that's why people show up because it's like a video game where you're like,

Starting point is 00:24:50 okay, I'm going to play this game for the first time. I have no idea where it's going to take me. And that is what season three is going to be. I mean, I'll tell you, I did not expect the last of us for them to kill up Pedro Pascal in the second episode. And if you guys go watch that reaction with me, Roxy, and John, I was literally, like, if you look at my face, sometimes I go back and watch it, I was like, I couldn't talk because I was in shock. Like literally, I was pissed and in shock. I couldn't speak for like, they were like, I don't think terrorism. okay and I was like sorry I don't think that I because they just didn't expect it so you know for this

Starting point is 00:25:31 that that could be season three I don't know what to expect they could be killing off air suit right to top who knows they're going to do in here yeah I'm ready for them to surprise me yeah I'm like I still really enjoy the show I had a lot of fun during season two love season one I really enjoy all these characters I'm excited to see whatever games they put them back into yeah I think that the show is still a really really well written and I think it has an amazing dynamic cast and the way that they are able to find innovative ways to make these games interesting is still awesome so yeah whatever they have in store I'm game for like and I'm excited and hope you guys keep tuning in to see what we think and see what we feel as we go on this journey into season

Starting point is 00:26:14 three for sure because we'll always be honest to you guys about how we feel about it I mean that's our that's our job but um sometimes I think in the in the comments or if you guys don't listen to full reviews you'll like hopefully not take the some negative things and take that as our our whole of how we're looking at the show because obviously we're here because we like this show and we're fans but we're going to tell you our opinion if there's certain things that seem a little out of place or maybe not in tune with maybe the first season or maybe earlier in the season so yeah definitely keep tuning in because we are I'm excited to see whether they're going to take this Joker season and how

Starting point is 00:26:55 they're really going to blow it up and end it. I'm wildly intrigued by it. So please leave a like, leave a comment. Tell us what you guys think about these last couple of episodes. Do you kind of feel like how we did or were you just totally

Starting point is 00:27:10 surprised? Or did you expect it? I don't know. Let us know. We'd love to hear from you. Do you have any last words? No. Let the games continue. All right. We will We'll see you on the next one.

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The Reel Rejects - ALICE IN BORDERLAND Seaason 2 Episode 7 & 8 REVIEW!! 今際の国のアリス

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