The Reel Rejects - AMERICAN PIE (1999) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:17 We're all dining together for some sweet, sweet goodness, okay? All the mode, baby. All right, let's go. Well, gang. Give us a lip. Give us a lip. Oh, yeah. You do the thing.

Starting point is 00:01:36 Give us a listen on the Apple or Spotify. If you listen on Apple or Spotify, hello, what's up? My name's Aaron. This is John. We watched American Pie. Yes. It was such a fun movie. We just consumed a whole American pie.

Starting point is 00:01:50 Numb, num, num, num, num, num, num. Yes, we did. It was delicious. This film has left me with a nipple chills. Oh, it was. And you're a daddy. I'm a daddy. You're the last daddy.

Starting point is 00:02:00 That's right. Tees like these available at Rejection Shop.com. This, yeah, this was, you know, one of those movies that looms large, certainly. I remember vividly when this came out, and this was definitely like one of those quintessential movies in my life, at least. I feel like a lot of people may be experienced. I feel like you can have one of two experiences. Either your parents let you watch whatever, or you're going to have my experience where this is like the movie, everyone around you somehow has seen

Starting point is 00:02:27 and you're like, there's no way my folks are going to let me watch that, knowing these. So I would have to catch this at someone's house and that just never really happened. That was also my experience too. Okay. So I just grew up all around these. Plus this was, I think I was like, what, five when this came out, four or five. So.

Starting point is 00:02:43 Sure. Sure. Yeah, this would have been on the VOD or VHS at some point. But yeah, just never saw it. I've heard a couple of these references, but I'm happy to finally see them and laugh with them in context. You know, it's funny. You know he's going to, you know he's going to make love to the pie and and watching the unrated version actually i've

Starting point is 00:03:00 always seen the still frame of him like with his back turned us at the counter like so i think this was a different shot of that because that's something uh you know stifler is just like a character who looms uh the whole this one time at band camp just set up is a thing but yeah like this is one of those movies that loomed in terms of like oh you know it's uh it's obviously a sex comedy. And I think from the outside, and especially growing up at the time and at the age we were at, you know, it's sort of like oh, you know, like this is like

Starting point is 00:03:32 super raunchy, super adult. And funny enough, watching this now, it's like, it certainly is raunchy, it certainly is a sex comedy. It's a little bit more of a high school romance ensemble than I had initially expected. Like, it's still very much committed

Starting point is 00:03:48 to being a sex comedy, obviously. Yeah. But, you know, I thought at least the effort to have, I don't think every storyline necessarily felt proportionally incorporated into the story. There were times where it would weave in and out, and I'd forget about certain characters for a while, and then characters would come back or whatever. But at least, like, committed to having every, like, major couple or something, have some type of arc or journey that I was endeared to.

Starting point is 00:04:16 And I think the actors, certainly, while they're all kind of different scales of the, like, who's believably in high school, you know, I see. still thought there was some good chemistry and everyone was fun to watch and they had like a good array of like kinds of characters you'd meet in high school you know like jason biggs feels very much like you know and again like they've tried to make a lot of i feel like he tried to kind of occupy a lane where he was always playing this sort of character this sort of like nebishy unconfident guy who uh you know gets pushed around or whatever gets put into uncomfortable situations and can never stand up for himself uh and

Starting point is 00:04:55 And, you know, that, I guess, you know, he's had a fine career, certainly. I don't get the sense that his star rose quite as high as maybe, like, one would have hoped. But, like, this is a thing where he's, like, kind of perfectly suited. Oh, my God. There's, there's, is that a spoiler? I don't know. I don't know what you're looking at. American Pie Reunion.

Starting point is 00:05:13 Oh, well. I mean, there are so many movies. There's so many. I won't. I don't. I, they're like. So, what? What?

Starting point is 00:05:23 What's the one over there? Is that Van Wander? Van Wilder. I've never seen that one. Have you? Not in full, I don't think. There's at least one sequence I do know of from that movie. I know nothing. But, but yeah, I don't think I've ever fully watched. And that was, you know, slightly after this, I want to say, but also from a time where like these, yeah, were not the kind of comedies I was raised on. So I would have had to have been, yeah, like adjacent to other people watching something like this. Okay. But yeah, like, and there are a lot of actually high school romance.

Starting point is 00:05:54 coming of age movies. Like, I haven't seen 10 things I hate about you. Oh, I love that one. But I feel like this is sort of a similar era to that, but obviously way more on the sex comedy side than the romantic comedy side.

Starting point is 00:06:06 Right, right. But yeah, like, I walked away minus and you know, I'm not going to get bad. Like, I understand it's a comedy and it's a fantasy and whatever else. Like minus the one like kind of criminal sequence. You know, this

Starting point is 00:06:20 was a little bit, yeah. It wasn't only like raunchy, gross out stuff. Like, there's certainly that. It's certainly in the tradition of, you know, the revenges of the nerds and the animal houses that have come before it.

Starting point is 00:06:33 Never seen those? I've seen Animal House. I don't, I think I've seen. I'm not sure about Revenge of the Nerds. I know a couple jokes that come from that. Animal House is the one I know the best. But, uh, but yeah, this at least had a little bit more of like a heart to it

Starting point is 00:06:48 than I had initially expected, which is a nice thing. Yeah, yeah. I agree with that. I felt like it did have a lot of heart and that was not something I was expecting. I just know that it was very raunchy and very risque with how it presented this comedy.

Starting point is 00:07:03 But this movie surprisingly had a lot of heart and a lot of characters that I would like, yeah, I'm not surprised that this developed a franchise. It was like Jason Bakes' character is very endearing. You know, Stifler was this thing that just hopped around the movie.

Starting point is 00:07:17 But, you know, all of them are, I think, very well cast for the roles that they played in the movie. I actually expected more of Stiffler. I expected him to have his own plot line. Same. Instead of just popping up and being a dick.

Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah, he's just such a dick. I thought that Jennifer Cooles would be in the movie a lot more because I just know that she's, I just know through cultural osmosis that she's Stiffler's mom. And at this point in time, I mean, I'm sure she had recognizability, but not as much as now. So like the pan to the photograph could have, if watching this at the time, I can imagine that almost being just like, oh, a site gag you might never think of. Like, oh, because we know.

Starting point is 00:07:53 her now we're like we gotta see her at some point you know whereas if maybe if you didn't know back then you might not expect that and then it would be a surprise but yeah i was like i thought she would be in the movie and they would be building that up or something right yeah which makes for actually a fun surprise the way they did it here because i'd forgotten by that point yeah it didn't make for i think i thought i made for a fun surprise yeah definitely and just the whole rumor about around um finch going around like the whole running joke of that i thought it was a whatever rumor you hear just say yes it's true yeah yeah just go

Starting point is 00:08:25 with it and um what's the actress name jessica who played her what's her name Russian doll orange is new oh Natasha leone yeah yeah she was fun too I really liked her character she was in this and yeah she was like the absolutely like that character who's somehow like flitting between all parties

Starting point is 00:08:41 sort of in the middle of the margins who's like seems to do fine and seems to have just like a bit more experience and like world weariness than anybody else around and I loved her so much I wonder if she was... Such a good wing woman. I wonder if she was out at this point.

Starting point is 00:08:56 Because, yeah, she was the only one that didn't have a love interest in the movie. Yeah, and I mean, you know, I... I thought she was great. I loved her character. And also the whole running joke with the Sherman. And that was funny towards the beginning. Poor guy. Poor Sherman.

Starting point is 00:09:10 Poor fella, yeah. Pissed himself at the prom. Pissy prom. Get the alliteration. Got to get that alliteration. But yeah, I think it's, you know, in an age we're comedy is so subjective. I think comedy is always subjective,

Starting point is 00:09:24 but the fact that this is like a 20-year-old movie. Actually, it wasn't subjective until 1960. Oh, yeah. Up until that point, you just knew it was funny. Everybody just agreed universally that things were funny. But I thought that this movie was one that still holds up. And for the most part, you know, I said that's some questionable scenes as John said.

Starting point is 00:09:41 Minus the webcam. The webcam. Which, again, I fully support, though, because it was the 90s and that was okay. Like, smoking was good for you in the 30s. That's true. Broadcasting people without their consent was a good for you in the 90s. They just made cigarettes better back then.

Starting point is 00:09:56 Yes. And webcam cons have, I guess. Absolutely. Yeah, but I think that all of them were great. And I think that, yeah, I like the fact that I had a lot of heart. And the music was also really great. I think the music really set a tone for this movie. That's what you got like.

Starting point is 00:10:14 A lot of nostalgic songs for sure. I know there were probably a lot more relevant in your childhood. I listened to kind of different stuff. I was a little sheltered as a little. boy, but I recognize some of the tunes, and I like the vibe that it brought to the movie. Well, yeah, and I mean, that's, that's like a staple trope of this kind of movie is that you need to have, I feel like, any good high school comedy worth its salt has to have, you know, like the soundtrack of the summer that everyone's like going out and buying and it has the

Starting point is 00:10:42 who's who of bands. And, yeah, I mean, that makes it fun for me because, too, this was music that would have been around during the stretch of time when I was growing up. So, you know, yeah, I'm having these, like, acid flashbacks. What is her name? Mina Suvari. That's who that is. Of course.

Starting point is 00:10:57 Okay. She is, uh, Heather. What is she in? Uh, she's been in a whole bunch of things. Oh, she's an American beauty. Duh. She's an American beauty. Which I've never seen fully either.

Starting point is 00:11:09 Um, yeah. She's in prey. Wow. Different prey. Different prey. Different prey. Three point eight prey. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:14 She's been, she's, I mean, obviously her IMDB has been pulled up. She's like the movie. She's got a. Oh, that's right. That's right. Oh, she's so good in that. Dude, psych. Yeah, she's in an episode as well.

Starting point is 00:11:26 That's right. But, yeah, and two, it's like a who's who of who was coming up at the time because, you know, Thomas Ian Nicholas. Like, that's a name. I remember hearing a bunch back in the day. And, like, Eugene Levy was iconic coming off of this. And I did like that. Like, I thought that was very endearing for how awkward it was. Like, this didn't necessarily transcend.

Starting point is 00:11:49 Like, I feel like a super bad kind of transcends a little bit into, like, yeah, this is hyper raunchy. And, yeah, it's like high school sex comedy again. And it's doing a lot of those riffs and tropes, but, like, it goes to a place that, like, punches you in the fields a bit more comprehensively than something like this. But I got the sense, and I've not, I don't think I've seen, like, Road Trip or Euro Trip or Beer Fest or any of those movies, which is the Scotty doesn't know one. Like, I'm not sure if I've really fully seen any of those. but this one set the stage for all those movies. A lot of those, yeah, and maybe we might watch them someday and come to find that those are a little bit more thoughtful

Starting point is 00:12:26 at least than you would expect, but I kind of don't expect that. But, you know, again, that was something that was kind of neat. No, I think this movie had, granted, it didn't go as, like, deep with it. It's like Superbad did because I watched that one recently. Sure. But I think that I really like the friendship between all of them, even though they were all on their individual journeys, the fact that they, I like that this was all a really,

Starting point is 00:12:48 about them having sex but each them had a different relationship with their objective of sex like one of them found genuine love one of them was on the cusp of a breakup the other one was losing it but was with the girl he didn't really care for then he got used so to speak and then and then one of them just like didn't do anything or the other one lied so like yeah i like the different spectrum of of sexual experiences and yeah even the way the ones that did end up having sex scenes because the whole movie's about the idea of sex but when we do see characters that actually have sex, it is very sincere and it's very authentic and I appreciated that in this raunchy comedy because I genuinely did not expect to see that

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Starting point is 00:14:35 of quality when it comes to like, yeah, you know, when you're that age, you know, maybe it's not quite as cartoonish as this. But yeah, it is like on your mind. And there is like a lot of just pressure around and people are, yeah, inflating experiences or maybe. even making them up wholesale. And there's, you know, the whole system of just being in the social web of high school felt pretty authentic here. And yeah, like in that scene between Tara Reid and Thomas E. Nicholas, I thought the idea that they would, you know, close up on her face and do that whole, like, hey, go slow. Like, it does kind of hurt. Like, that's the detail I thought was, like, nicely observed for a movie that bothered to go out of its way to do something like the webcam scene or something like that.

Starting point is 00:15:17 So, you know, like, yeah, little things like that I thought were nice. And, yeah, I agree. Like, instead of having every character be sort of the same POV or same eyeline, same kind of guy, you know, yeah, you get the one guy who is actually kind of maturing and getting in touch with his sensitive side and his more creative side. And then, you know, you've got the different webs of lies that get told and the misunderstandings. And there was nothing in here that was too much like, ugh, we could have avoided all of this if, you know, like the minimum. misunderstandings or little things felt mostly well in well drawn or anything like when he's when she observes him as Sean William Scott's like you know being a dof on the lacrosse field and he's like kind of laughing along you know he's uncomfortable but he's not really intervening or standing up for her like

Starting point is 00:16:05 that's another moment where I'm like oh yeah it's kind of a character beat you know this made me yeah this made me want to dive into the the high school runchy comedy genre a little more what's that it's that one um what's one with Chris Evans. Is that not another teen movie? Not another teen movie, which I've, yeah, I've definitely not seen. Oh, yeah. I don't want to watch that one.

Starting point is 00:16:24 I know he's in it and something about, like, whipped cream. That's all I know, though. Okay, sure. Well, and the whipped cream gag, I think, comes from a different movie. Oh, you see? Maybe I didn't even know that. Football movie or something like that. They recommend us more teen, more teen high school comedies and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:16:40 Let us know if you want us to watch Van Wilder. Because that's a Ryan Reynolds movie I've never seen. And I was like, give him his claim to fame as like, movie star so absolutely yeah what does know that and it's funny it makes me wonder too crystal the monkey i just had to check is the same monkey from the night at the museum and the hangover we just watched the night at the museum movies i was like i know this monkey how old is this monkey monkey monkey is out here still making stuff in 2024 oh my god you still thrive crystal the monkey is no small bananas in just five of her movies she holds a box

Starting point is 00:17:17 off is gross and more than 2.5 billion. Damn. Dude, Crystal the monkey. Hell yeah. Hanging out with Blink 182. Oh my goodness gracious. Okay, so Travis Barker was uncredited in that scene. And so was Casey Affleck uncredited as the one guy's brother?

Starting point is 00:17:37 That's awesome. And yes, Chris Klein is in Street Fighter to the Legend of Chunley. And I've heard he is quite something to behold in that movie. Alice in Hanigan, yeah, probably around the time Buffy was doing its thing. Shannon Elizabeth, I remember her being like one of those pin-up or one of those actresses, but who everybody who had a poster of on their wall. Wait, can you click her real quick? What scary movie was she in?

Starting point is 00:18:02 It's bothering me. Yeah. And it's funny, too, I wonder if there's any connection because Eugene Levy and Jennifer. Game movie three, yeah, she had the inflatable boobies. Scary. I remember that. Oh, my bad. She's in all of them, I think.

Starting point is 00:18:16 I guess, yeah. She's in at least a few of them. It's two of them. Yeah. No, the affordable girl is somebody is a different. Is it? Yeah, I think it is. Because I think I've seen that girl with something else.

Starting point is 00:18:31 Scary movie, American Pie 2. Oh, she's in the 13 ghost remake. I haven't seen that. And, oh, goodness, love actually. That's right. She's at the end with Liam Neeson. Spoilers for Love Actually. Yeah, she was in a ton of stuff.

Starting point is 00:18:45 I feel like the 80-yard half her die. dialogue. It's interesting, though, that Eugene Levy and, you know, Jennifer Coolidge should be both in the movie because they're, you know, players from the Christopher guest, like, you know, Best in Show for your consideration, waiting for Guffman, like all those movies. Like, they're in that troop. So I wonder if there was any kind of, like, if they just incidentally were both cast, you know, from that kind of pool into this or if there was some connection there. Apparently this has two directors and one of them is uncredited, but yeah, any other thoughts on the film? No, I liked it. Let's know if you guys want us to watch more American Pie. John, do you have any final thoughts? Let's see, when submitting us read a little bit of trivia here. A little trivia.

Starting point is 00:19:34 When submitting his script to the studios, screenwriter Adam Hertz, titled it Untitled Teenage Sex Comedy, that can be made for $10 million, which studio readers will likely hate, but I think you will love. It was later changed to East Grand Rapids High, then East Great Falls High, then Great Falls, and finally, American Pie, which, like, what a... What a trajectory of titles? It reminds me of watching Silicon Valley and that they have this whole debate about how to name apps, and they're like, you've got to kind of kind of find it like a nonsense word or some kind of, like, adjacent thing that isn't exactly what the thing is. And so, like, you know, the American, the warm American apple pie or whatever is obviously a crucial element of the motif of. the movie but like the choice to zero in on that and be like that's the title is like one of those inspired choices where I'm like yeah the Don McLean song people will have the association but also

Starting point is 00:20:27 just like whichever who's ever decision that was who's ever note got taken to heart on that good on you was that song come out before this movie day oh sure yeah yeah yeah most I would I don't know uh you can why don't you google that and I'll read this next phone's over there oh here you go Oh, hold on. Wow, you just trust me with your phone. Alison Hanigan went to her callback audition, really having to pee! She ran to the bathroom, and her name was called right after she got out. She went in without having calmed down, so she read the part really quirky and with an over amount of energy.

Starting point is 00:21:00 She credits that to her getting the part. That's what's up. The film was originally rated NC-17 by the NPAA, and it took three resubmissions to obtain the R-rating. A few scenes that had to be edited or trimmed. to achieve the rating. The main reason for the NPA's NC-17 decision was that the infamous pie scene in the original cut,

Starting point is 00:21:23 Jim did only four thrusts on the pastry. In the original cut, he did four thrusts on the pastry, which was too many for an R. The filmmakers in the NPA wound up settling on two thrusts. That's the thing is you watch enough slasher movie like director commentaries and half the time they're like,

Starting point is 00:21:38 oh yeah, this stabbing scene we had like 40 stabs. And then we had to cut it down to like three stabs. Oh, wow. Yeah, like that's NIP. I believe that thrusts would certainly follow a similar thing. Also, this song came out in 1971. There you go. That sounds about right.

Starting point is 00:21:53 That's some 70s ass music right there. Some 70s ass music for you. Dirtyer dialogue during the scrambled porno. After Stifler swigs the beer, Kevin asks him, the pale ale line, which was originally How's the Man Chowder? Wow, boy. When Nadia is seen using Jim's magazine, the filmmakers had to cut the sight of her placing her okay of her uh getting too into that activity i'll say

Starting point is 00:22:20 by a kind of cut a couple frames uh when kevin is looking through the bible he finds in the library the shots of the pages had to be edited to include less raunchy illustrations and uh the scene yeah i was wondering about that the scene where kevin and vicky are uh expressing oral affections uh just a little too long uh yeah i can see that yeah um The opening scene, arousal was created by a cooked sausage from the morning's breakfast. It was stuck on a pencil and wrapped it aluminum foil. It was still warm when it was placed between Jason Biggs' legs. Pigs was given the choice between a medium and a large, to which he chose the latter.

Starting point is 00:23:05 He also ate the sausage right after filming the scene, the socksage. The line, say my name, bitch, from the latter. the scene between Jason and Michelle was ad-libbed on the spot by Alison Hanigan, the director-producer found it so amusing that it was kept in the final cut. Yes. Well, well, this must, I'm sure there are many more tales, but at the risk of getting this video completely demonetized, we'll leave it there. Oh, God.

Starting point is 00:23:35 But, yeah. Oh, there's one, though. Yeah, Eugene Levy was told he could improvise much of the dialogue for his character, including the part when he's flipping through the magazines with Jim. forcing a noticeably muffled laugh from Jason Biggs with one particular line, which, yeah, I feel like I caught that. Oh, man. Jesus.

Starting point is 00:23:55 Okay, you guys, thanks so much for watching American Pie. Let us know what your favorite American Pie movie is, and we'll see. Yeah, should we check out all 20 American Pie? Let's check out all 20 of them. Should we watch this devolve into what we thought it would be all along? To just, like, completely surface-level launch. I would love that. I would love that so much.

Starting point is 00:24:16 And I hope you guys would love that too. Thank you so much for watching and have a great list of your day. Swindissa! If I was to draw an inappropriate drawing in the style or likeness of one of our patrons, you're the lucky patron. Absolutely. That, I mean, could be its own cottage business. This is an idea I present to you free of charge.

Starting point is 00:24:44 I don't like garbage. This is an uncut, uncircumcised idea. Circumcised. You could be a phallic artist of sorts. You could do like caricatures the same way people do on like beach boardwalks and at theme parks. But instead of just drawing people as the cartoon version of themselves, you draw people as a member of society. And so, you know, think of it. Because who wouldn't want some kind of obscene?

Starting point is 00:25:14 endearing. That's a hard market to target, but I think it's a valid one. You know, endearingly obscene is kind of, is it a perfect way to describe this movie? And I feel like that would be probably you know, well in line with your spiritual and, you know,

Starting point is 00:25:30 intellectual inclinations. So stay pervy, you sicko, and thanks for being here. We love you. And you're welcome to come and fondle us anytime. It's really important. I'm in the shout-up. Platonically, it is. It is.

Starting point is 00:25:43 How do you feel? Yeah, I feel great. I feel great for Swind, this one. Yeah. We all feel great for you, Swind, so. Thanks for being here.

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