The Reel Rejects - ANDOR SEASON 2 Episode 10, 11, & 12 FINALE Breakdown & Review!!!!

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

DID THEY STICK THE LANDING?? Andor Season 2 Full Reaction Watch Along:   / thereelrejects   Visit https://huel.com/rejects to get 15% off your order Save & Invest In Your Future Today, vi...sit: https://www.acorns.com/rejects Star Wars Inspired REEL REJECTS Apparel & MORE! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Tony Gilroy's hit Star Wars series continues with its 3 most HARROWING episodes to date - we continue the second season as Greg & John give their Andor Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, & Spoiler Review!! Covering episodes 10, 11, & 12 bringing us to the series finale & segueing us into the events of Rogue One, the final 3 episodes see Dedra moving on her suspicions & ambitions leading to a tense showdown with Luthen which ultimately results in some of the series most tense & compelling action as Kleya grieves his death while also trying to suppress the crucial secrets that lie in the veil, with him, between life and death. Her fearsome attack on the ISB combined with the illuminating flashbacks of hers & Luthan's relationship make for some of the most striking drama of the series. From there, Andor, Melshi, K2S0 & others embark on a harrowing rescue mission to get Kleya from Coruscant back to Yavin. We see Mon Mothma & Bail Organa in their newfound roles amid the rebellion, an appearance of Saw Gerrera, Vel, the voice of Nemik, & More leading to the search for Galen Erso & the events of Rogue One. Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:14 Hashtag, you got this. Thank you to Acorns and Hewle for sponsoring this video. More on them in just a bit. let's watch this finale people ladies and gentlemen we just watched the final episodes of and or season two and I am I am in a shocked state of mind right now yeah I'm so like hung up on the fact he has a kid That's like a trope in movies and shows. You're like, oh, did you really had a kid actually? And he doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:01:59 But it makes it like doubly tragic because in some ways like, oh, the legacy lives on of Andor and in them. But you know his fate. Yeah. You know. And even though I don't really remember Rogue One, I'm like, oh, yeah. I know he's not going to return. Yeah. yeah so and there's i don't i like is there any mention in that movie of him like having a kid
Starting point is 00:02:27 regardless like that's so sad you know like what and it drives this show is so much about sacrifice that's like one of its top things you've hell even sacrifice like people's love for you you sacrifice respect you sacrifice so much um in circumstantial physically your whole life relationally you sacrifice everything and then she had to make the hard choice too that makes her choice of bix's choice leaving him even harder right because she had to have a feeling she was pregnant there was no like alluding to it but that's why she left yeah you ain't gonna be a good dad you are way too married to work all right now i think it's a beautiful little coda moment because it does encapsulate all of it it's like yeah it's the sacrifice
Starting point is 00:03:20 the ultimate sacrifice that Andor doesn't even quite know that he's making even though she made this choice to kind of get him on the path and then his fight is all their fight collectively is all so that this can even be possible in the first place for her to you know freely you know just live and you know thrive and and yeah raise her child their child and it is tragic but it's also like you get to behold them in this beautiful peaceful moment in this idyllic sort of yeah, Elysian sort of setting that does in some, yeah, in some way it does speak to like, again,
Starting point is 00:04:00 the hope and what the fight is for. And yeah, it's like it's sad and somber, but it's beautiful. And for a character like Bix in particular to be in that position and to be the last moment of the show, I think is really striking and really strong and especially for everything that character has been through. Like, she wears that all in her face, but there is that sense of, like, you know, hope can still flourish and life can still continue on. And there is still something to live for. And, yeah, I thought it was like a lovely poetic moment, even though you are also like, oh, my God. Like, he doesn't even know. And, like, how tragic, how sad.
Starting point is 00:04:41 But also, maybe that'll spare this child. He's so much grief. Not that he would attempt to go, you know, pull the child into this. But, yeah, if they were together, if he knew. in any way everything would be different and he probably would definitely would not be out here which is probably i wonder if that's i have like they it would make all the sense in the world to me if yeah she definitely knew upon leaving and then was like that's even greater reason why i have to make this decision i would agree with that i would agree with that and
Starting point is 00:05:08 you know with the sacrifice that he does make and how he gives his life eventually that even uh it's as he makes it a little more beautiful because one of the things that the show does is they go you have to remember why you're doing this who you're doing it for and doesn't even realize if he's doing it for his wife and kid well not his wife but you know kind of his wife is his lady yeah uh love Diego luna is uh brilliant in this yeah i feel like he got like cooler and cooler throughout this whole this specific season well it's it has been a meme of the show since the beginning this sort of like for a show called andor but like i love in hindsight the this gradual
Starting point is 00:05:55 yeah building and solidifying of the character and you go from this guy who has almost no identity to a guy with a clear sense of what he is fighting for and what is worth that fight and what is worth the energy you're put on earth to you know provide uh and yeah like it does feel it's interesting you know you could get to the end of the show it could be great everything could be you know wonderful and still be like I don't get really had to call it and or other than like the name recognition but I feel like it does feel like the right title for the show to me anyway
Starting point is 00:06:30 and I think it's again it speaks to the the strength of the theme of that leadership like yeah it's you know being the title character doesn't mean that you're always the center of attention it doesn't mean that you know you are there's a whole episode of that yeah absolutely and like and credit to the show show like that one of the best episodes uh you know truly but uh yeah like i really do appreciate that
Starting point is 00:06:55 theme especially that becomes clear in season two of like you are not only a crack pilot but you are the messenger you are the person who is getting the most precious thing we have which is the intel you know to who needs to hear it well as the messenger he is the one who like connects like all the threads here every and and he's also like a hands-on messenger he was there like Like Mon Mothma is fucking here because of him. He literally saved her ass. And she'd be dead if it wasn't for him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:26 You know? And the evolution, like, there's so much discredited or overlooked of people's contribution. And or in particular feels that. That's one thing I love about this show. Like, it feels like historical. It does. You know, I want to talk about them as like, oh, man, he's forgotten heroes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Like, but they're totally made up. for the show and it's our real world but i talk about it like it makes you feel that though like oh these the ones who we i wish we knew their stories should have been more popular in the fight in the rebellion yeah yeah like leuton in particular as a character made up for just this show yeah one it does it at least gets you reflective of life thinking like oh man how many of these you know could you swap in of these figures in the show for real people who have done similar deeds and actions and I think it's cool because what they highlight and especially through a character like and or but it's like all of this is comprised of like a bunch of different little moving
Starting point is 00:08:27 parts and moments and it can be that this one person and or happened to cross paths with so many different people at so many crucial convergence points and like that's what I mean I'm not an expert on history and revolution but you know in the broad strokes like when you zoom in that's what is happening is just a bunch of little combined efforts and it's yeah this you know spirit that you can't contain and then people just being the antenna for that and uh yeah just the way that they portray the whole debate from every side of it's like you think okay get great getting the death star just the intel that there is a death star back will be crucial will be huge but even that isn't like a complete catharsis because then yeah just a new sequence of debates begins
Starting point is 00:09:15 and a news and it's fair to question like are we being fed this information like even then ending off the show to segue into a rogue one now i'll be thinking of that even though we know because we've seen it the ones it's still that like you know we know we're dealing with a brilliant enemy there's ever reason to suspect that this could be false information or this could be a trap you know and yet still we got to go on the best of what we know and the best of what our instincts that have been built over time can tell us and uh this just it's weird it does feel like you are peering, I guess, because I think subconsciously, because
Starting point is 00:09:48 you know, it's in that flashback episode especially you're like, damn, you know, he's in like a brown uniform and there's just like way more in that episode that feels much more grounded to some other more earthlike, less sci-fi reality that I
Starting point is 00:10:05 think just, like all of this has stuff that, you know, is ripped from the pages of history and reapplied to Star Wars, but I think doing things like that that especially bring the aesthetic down to earth, then lend credence to everything else so that when you're back on Corrassant and you've got the soldiers, yeah, doing their thing with the helmets off, but then you really feel the kind of personal complicity of it all, and, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:27 the blending of people who are just following orders versus people who just believe with all their conviction. Like, yeah, like, Tony Gilroy said something about, like, I wanted to take everything I know about empires and rebellions and put them in one show. And in a broad way, but a very personal, you know, detailed way. I feel like that is what they did, and that's why it feels so real because it is built on, it doesn't matter what the stuff looks like or what the aesthetic choices are. It's all based on real, you know, dynamics of the world, you know, societies.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Yeah, I actually haven't listened to much of Tony Gilroy or even read much of what Tony Gilroy said. It's weird. I have this interpretation from everything I hear in passing. that and no one's ever said this to me but my for some reason
Starting point is 00:11:21 my interpretation of Tony Gilroy's intentions seem so like I'm like I'm pretty sure I'm wrong as you were talking like I'm pretty sure I'm wrong
Starting point is 00:11:30 about this that he's not a big Star Wars fan and he doesn't really like Star Wars and want to make his own but I don't know
Starting point is 00:11:39 it kind of ties in it's hard as in Star Wars pretty great it seems to double down on the political sides that george lucas has talked uh extensively about yeah and it does it still feels star wars even tie it into the force in this final stretch in the last six episodes you know um and a little exchange with the force healer at that one one moment towards the end yeah i i feel like there is a
Starting point is 00:12:03 love for star wars and it definitely doesn't mess with continuity and it doesn't and it still ties in like the Gorman massacre line with Mon Mothma, how that was on the hologram in Rebels. And then they bring that scene to life here. You know, so it ties it like it all ties in. It's
Starting point is 00:12:23 it feels like it's all Star Wars lore. But I feel like his his voice for this has been so special. I bet he loves Star Wars. I think that is my own. For some reason, I've concluded that
Starting point is 00:12:37 from people just saying shit. He makes big, complex, serious guy stuff, I guess. And I don't know what it is, yeah, because I've felt, I don't think it's even, yeah, specifically from him, just that idea of like, this seems like kids stuff compared to what you typically do. But he's also like a crazy accomplished music. I get the sense that he's much more of a broad, artistic guy than I would have initially expected based off of like the legal thrillers and the born movies I associate him with. But like, it is a great example of how in fiction and in media.
Starting point is 00:13:09 and in stuff that has allegorical potential that, yeah, like, this is just a timely story to tell. And, hey, you've got a set of Star Wars paints you can do it with, you know? And that's kind of, to me, a great example of when, yes, Star Wars, big corporate product also happens to lend itself very well to, like, a real piece of art. Sure. That doesn't always happen. It doesn't always happen within Star Wars, but it can. And this, and it's funny, too, because for as much flack as Kathleen Kennedy tends to get. a lot of the conversations, and I haven't heard
Starting point is 00:13:41 a million, but when I've heard Tony Gilroy talk, he's like, yeah, I've known Kathy for years, and I called her up, and I was like, I think this is what you ought to do, and she's like, well, you want to do it? And it seemed like something that hatched actually probably very organically. And it's interesting to note what they originally, I think it, according to what I've heard him say,
Starting point is 00:13:59 they wanted to make this like an Andoran K2 going on missions show. And he was like, you're going to limit yourself really quickly by doing that. I have this other plan. And they were like, yeah let's do that you know like let's go for that and can they still give us the end or in k2 on mission well and i feel like you know you get an episode a little a little chapter of that which i think is like well handled because too like i get absolutely what he's saying like it would be very fun to have an anthology of like cool adventures that are vaguely important to the you know
Starting point is 00:14:32 furthering of the rebellion it's an easier sell yeah absolutely but uh you know it's a nice reward it's a nice cherry on top and while it is conscientious in the last uh the second to last episode that k2 would do a lot of the heavy lifting in terms of the situation they find themselves in it also feels well motivated it's a great opportunity for k2 to really earn the trust that we have seen demonstrated down the line and it does amount to a pretty cool and intense little sequence that you get the benefit of that humor from like yeah this was the perfect way to incorporate that original idea but not he said it like if you have k2 around that's going to nerf a lot of the stakes because he can take care of so much and so like yeah i'm fast i've just further fascinated because
Starting point is 00:15:18 it seems just like a glorious marriage but like also the most unlikely thing to have happened yeah i agree well let's get things on very specific track here um with the with the luthan episode it really showed that this is going to be different than how we expect because I think the show has always been personal and political and this time around I feel like the easiest to digest episodes and less
Starting point is 00:15:47 like heady in the politic talk is actually these final episodes because there's so much about the immediacy, the emotion, the mission and it's probably some of their most personal they've done for our individual characters even this final episode is so patient
Starting point is 00:16:05 and there's so much restraint. I can actually see people not liking it because of how how it isn't this like crazy finale episodes, it's like the furthest thing from it. It is a conclusion that it's not even
Starting point is 00:16:21 like truly concluded. It's still like sending you up to go watch Rogue One, you know? But that episode with Clea, I'm so glad you got to have that episode. You know,
Starting point is 00:16:35 was cool to actually pull back the veil see chapters of their history um understand where she came from it's like you you got it i kind of had the sense i'm sure like a lot of people that there was a father-daughter type dynamic and then they really drive home that that is what it is and to become the truest daughter and put in and um kill luthan in a way that's not even um painful you know uh it seemed like he got to go out on a nice little count yeah yeah very sort of just fade away yeah and
Starting point is 00:17:10 I mean that whole episode is like tense as shit and okay and you don't know what's going to happen and killing off Lonnie man to start it off it's like Luton had to die and
Starting point is 00:17:26 and I think like it's those types of decisions like killing off Alani where where Luthan's reputation comes from. And I loved how every episode dealt with Luton's death. Yeah. It wasn't something that, all right, now we've said by there.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Let's move on. Let's focus. It played right into the final episode of whether or not they could trust this piece of information due to the way, his tactical way of fighting the empire went down and all the shady stuff and the most truthful liar, because he'll tell you he'll tell you he lies yeah and and uh i love how it created a a conflict because so so much early early on in this show the um i think it was i think it was sauerre's first scene in this show right where luthin meets with him and he's trying to convince him
Starting point is 00:18:21 like yo we got to like band together we can't be this this fractured rebel alliance yeah and yeah and i think By the end of this, there's a unity in alliance with the one little hiccup being Sao Guerrera, who we know dies relatively soon. Seems like it's more unified than ever up to now. He's just one chess piece that's getting in the way. That's especially, yeah, hard to get in. And Amman Mothba has this scene with him trying to tell him like, no, dude, we're not your enemy. We're looking out for you right now. We're trying to protect you.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And that's the dangers of stubbornness, the dangers of, um, the dangers of, um, of uh yeah stubbornness has been kind of a prevailing thing for everyone here who never puts their guard down and never opens their heart yeah they're they're usually met with death you know um because yeah one of the cool things i think they've done is show characters like didra characters like cyril oh my god blinking on his name old man who died at the end here ahead of isb oh oh yeah god um We got credits here. Damn, what is his name? Why can't I remember his name right now?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Which one would you be? Oh, Part of Gaz, right? Part of Gas, yeah. Okay, so, part of gas, I forgot the original point I was making. And this is Deirdre's, oh, yeah, yeah, is that, like, what you see a lot with the rebel alliance is those who are so rebellious, even within not wanting to take order. from people who are positionally higher or are the authority tend to be the ones who are actually making advancements and are having this massive impact, right?
Starting point is 00:20:12 Like a Luthan, like an Andor. You even saw Imman Mothma who freaking went up against the Senate and denounce Palpatine. Whereas the others who did want to advance and who were loyalist to the, empire they were never rewarded and met with punishment or death and unceremoniously at that like did didger did you did help out with gorman didre dider did did did find access yeah she did the thing and the lands in the prison yeah and uh part of gas um chose his way chose his way because that's what
Starting point is 00:20:54 was going to happen and serial that's like a well documented like every war has that but yeah especially like world war two just like once you're had you're just like well time to go yeah cyril um great example of that didn't is an art his arch nemesis didn't even know who he was you know and and i i love the uh i love the understanding of the not not only the way like political machinations work but the psychology surrounding those in in these positions often you know things that i'm not well versed in but i feel like It's cool to watch a space fantasy show that helps remind me of the insights of these things. Well, yeah, it gets you thinking about how this is applicable to the here and now.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And it also makes you want to go read some real history. Yeah, yeah. That's good. Yeah. That's good for fun space entertainment. Reject Nation, you ever look back and realize how little you actually learned about money growing up for me. Like many of you, it was always start investing when you're young. No one never told me how.
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Starting point is 00:25:32 of episodes, I know you remarked, too, like, when Young is found dead and he actually looks like affected by this, you can, part of your brain goes like, okay, well, he also probably sees that the dominoes are now falling, and he is in the direct line of those dominoes, and it's like, Dedra is under him, so is young. If there's any more complication to that, this is probably going to be my head. But like in the last chunk of episodes especially, I think it becomes clear how like part of the emotional toll that is taken on people on the imperial side and not that it begs you to have a direct sort of, it's sympathy without excusing. It's like you've made your bed, but also now you are confronted with the fact that for all the power and all the puff and all the positioning they have given you at the right moment, you mean just as much to them as any of the rebel scum or any of the other you know
Starting point is 00:26:24 discardable expendable deplorable you know and uh yeah the way that that has echoed upward through characters like cyril partigaz uh dedra especially has been fascinating and that one the one guy who uh you know was taking over the charge and was hunting down claya like so unceremoniously turned into a shield you know like it does kind of Like, it's fascinating to watch the house of cards that an empire like this can be. And the way it becomes clear that, like, even someone is high-ranking and powerful as Orsincrenic has to, like, operate in the shadows. And everyone's playing this game of, like, I'm going to do something really risky and go outside a protocol. Because if it works, I'm going to be rewarded hugely.
Starting point is 00:27:11 But ultimately, what's that in service of? A system that you'll never reach the top of because you're not Palpatine. You're not the emperor. You're not the king. you know and uh i think while without giving them you know again too much sympathetic like mushy stuff they have like fascinatingly humanized the the machinery of tyranny like watching who the people are who help to create this and and yeah like the mundane lives they go home to and then you know the little chintzy office where they meet and they come up with some kind of fake energy plan to mask
Starting point is 00:27:47 what they're really doing, the way a narrative can be concocted in a moment's notice, just like, oh, tell them all that this is an escaped patient, and there could be some kind of pandemic if we don't get her, you know, quarantine. Like, it's so, because these systems present themselves is all knowing, and they are the order, and we have all the resources and come to us, you know, look to us. It's, it is a good illustration of how it's just a bunch of people, and it's probably people just as desperate as the people on the other side. They just have better offices and more tech you know but like ultimately freedom is just an idea and there's that thing about imperial peace in order or whatever and uh yeah this is just like a such a fascinating
Starting point is 00:28:31 collision of ideas and then to bring the nemic monologue this like manifesto that he's recorded into it at the end as both a tonal reminder but also yeah this i love the nuance of that him standing there listening to it and knowing that like just how the empire works this is probably it for me but also yeah that that thing of like well I've seen so many close people mowed down unceremoniously in such a small amount of time and people do for better and worse
Starting point is 00:28:57 get more human when they're faced directly with you know the things that can no longer be overcome by ambition or crushing it down when everything is real and it's all on the line now he makes you wonder of that message not that it matters for him but if it even found a way
Starting point is 00:29:14 toward him in that moment and it's that sort of... I think it did. Yeah, it feels like it. I think it did. He was acknowledging that it was growing. It was like a Christian movement.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Yeah, yeah. Like, damn, if it's spreading like this big and we, no matter what we do, we can't stop it. And people are latching on to it, then there must be some truth to it. It can't be delusion spreading like crap. I mean, obviously... This revolutionary is not wrong.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Yeah. And I think the intelligence of this man is way too sharp to fail to see that, you know? Yeah. And I think that's why that reserved candor that he had there at the very end and accepting of this as he, like, the rebellion wouldn't make him unless you're only, if it's solely run by Lutheran. But yeah, I think it was, I totally think he was changed there. that's a character i think anton lesser bob brings so much to that role
Starting point is 00:30:20 from the very beginning like there's this prestige quality that he brings and that is the moment in this entire show that i will remember him for that right there because
Starting point is 00:30:33 uh i appreciate that i mean yes it can be interpreted anyway i really can because there's no clear line of dialogue to say that he did start believing and doubting his beliefs in the empire
Starting point is 00:30:49 but that's not how I saw how he played it personally and it is a very haunting moment like to all the stuff you're talking about with watching these characters on the empire side like it plays on your empathy for a human being just like a human being
Starting point is 00:31:12 who was influence in this path right like I know like when Cyril died I heard you were here and you were like no like you shout no to that and because he's a good guy and I yeah his ideals Dietra as well
Starting point is 00:31:27 you had some like moment outburst I was starting her in the prison or something like there's this thing where you do you there is a an empathy that does develop whether or not one wants to admit that like it does and I think it is important to understand that the enemy
Starting point is 00:31:47 or the enemy without air quotes is a human being still and that doesn't mean evil is not evil it just means that they're a human being and do with that information what you will and this show's job is to show you that they're human beings and it's an important detail not to be overlooked because if you stop looking at human beings like human beings
Starting point is 00:32:11 beings and you're becoming closer to the thing you don't like yeah absolutely and too i mean yeah to just the the amount of variables that come back in when you acknowledge that because you know human beings emotionally speaking are capable of all sorts of strange and interesting contortions and you do feel yeah it's like even though you don't there's no excuse for the actions of the character but in a moment like that towards the end you do feel the sort of uh oh oh i had the words it's like you you feel the tragedy of the road that led us here, you know, because I'm sure if you wanted to, you could give everybody a core memory flashback. And, you know, even though, again, everybody in the empire who's made it that far has clearly made their own bed,
Starting point is 00:32:58 and that's their responsibility to deal with, it still just speaks to, yeah, this like greater, you know, way more abstract chaos of the universe thing of like, man, how misguided for so long. And, yeah, it's so striking, and it's so, yeah, it just has so much rousing sort of poetry. And the ensemble of the cast is like, truly as time has gone on, I'm like, man, this is another show that exemplifies that sort of idea that there are no small roles. Like, everyone feels crucial. It shows you by just having so many strong performers given such good material to work with, no matter how long they're on screen. It also just goes to bolster the idea that, like, no people. piece of an apparatus like this is insignificant either yeah well i mean we saw with claire
Starting point is 00:33:47 elizabeth du lao yes she she incredible for since since the time when her character was really like you're luthin's assistant that's your character and like she brings more depth to luthan's assistant than you would expect yeah she's so gripping to watch like she is a full-fledged character uh this season she always has been but way more this time and yeah she's like a she commands the screen when she when she's on screen she commands the screen and i'm sure i've seen her in other things i can't recall right off hand uh to me i'm like this might be the only thing i've seen her but i can't imagine that to be true with a talent like her and every time she was on screen she is commanding it like there's no other word for it there was something incredibly gripping about her body language and
Starting point is 00:34:39 her eyes great with dialogue absolutely but that whole episode for in earlier episodes too but this episode in particular where luthene is killed early on or incapacitated early on this is her episode and man she she she absolutely nails it and the the hardship of that emotion of going through with that mission like it's it's haunting and so sad and i love the i love that whole flashback uh the entire flashback narrative you know to provide that like cool little war grid film grain and then it helps hide the aging technology that could be funky because i really believed like how he looked um uh luthan and how the you see like the origins of their relationship and how much he actually kind of needed her like he was like breaking down and lost and i i wrote down what did he say he said rush
Starting point is 00:35:39 Oh, oh, oh, yeah, when he was saying make it stop, and then, yeah, and going back and forth. Roshniluto? What does that mean? Hmm, maybe I wrote it down wrong. Luta, maybe. Try the one auto fill and see if the machines know. What do you mean? Try the one, did you mean up there? Oh, no, never mind. I thought it had it better.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Let's go right back. that moment we got this people see if i got that line down here there we go there's the flashback does it start somewhere okay this is he's here right away this is a second flashback Roshny Lutz Roshny Lutz Rosh Roshny Lutz Maybe search English
Starting point is 00:36:49 translation after that Unless it's Star Wars language I have no idea It might not be What is he Swedish Yeah Might not be real words
Starting point is 00:37:07 It might be just just uh yeah swedish oh yeah man i say it's working roshney lutes character in star wars says this doesn't mean anything doesn't mean anything doesn't mean anything
Starting point is 00:37:38 Okay. It is Luthin says it in Andor It says it may be My guess is it must be a made-up language I wonder I don't know Anyway, got really hung up on that
Starting point is 00:38:02 I know it makes you wonder if they If they would have like, because I don't know You had people speaking French and it It just, it also did these little, it had these little flourishes of detail like that, where I, in that moment, along with you, I was like, oh, are they just letting him use his own language to bring that additional layer of human,
Starting point is 00:38:22 yeah, human culture and community into this? Like, it would have been just as plausible. And it's like, it's stuff like that too that's made this such a joy because, yeah, it's like you've got subtle ways in ways. It's like, yeah, having the troopers walk around without their helmets or having all these different languages that are a little bit familiar in mixed with the more broad Star Wars you know stuff that we're
Starting point is 00:38:44 used to that's more fantastical and then these like machines and stuff that are cool but that also like clearly have a purpose and function for daily life and even if you don't quite understand how they work the construction isn't just neat it like kind of gives you the gist and uh you know there's so much stuff about that it's like really fun and cool but there was almost nothing in here that felt like like again it's a meme of like film school when they're like what's the meaning of this choice and this is a show where it felt like every choice did have intent and meaning and nothing felt incidental and sometimes incidental stuff can also be beautiful and flows perfectly with the thing but like everything felt intentional i i would agree with that i think the i think even like the
Starting point is 00:39:29 parallels of the arc of the first three episodes to these last three uh were very much there was so much about the mission that felt like when uh cyril was going after andor and then i think even it's like ending shot with how and or was fleeing ferricks on a ship going in a space and except at that time he was escaping to it was another one of him like this one feels more purposeful and more confident and he's like he's setting out on an unknown thing leaving his home yeah you know but this time he has a home and i was going on the mission he's got a friend with him too you know so i think it's really cool yeah yeah i figure out what the hell this means anyway the whole thing was great um i i like how they give more amplification to their supporting characters like melchie as well and and uh
Starting point is 00:40:22 lawny another one like man every time he was there he was he was so impactful even fucking the guy who was hunting down he was like uh who hates didra yeah he was used as a shield by his little too so yeah freaking amazing dude like that dude like rose through the ranks in power and he's fucking awesome yeah um orson krennick you know i i i think um ben menelson's like a such a beloved actor and i don't remember anything he really did in row one except be a heavy yeah yeah i'm sure he's i'm sure he's great um but damn i don't remember ever being scared of him yeah and his scene with didra here in particular like i love like the variations of scenes that he got to do here because he kind of seemed like you know servant villain in rogue one where he is more of the
Starting point is 00:41:14 authority here he is the boss yeah he's an actual authority and the everyone is scared of him and the different scenes that they got they gave him from the opening with the boardroom talking about Gorman to then arguing politics while trying to maintain pleasantries when he's with Mon Mothma and then here asserting that
Starting point is 00:41:39 turning the surveillance off so we can manhandle Deidre in brutal ways that are very uncomfortable to watch. And even he is playing the game of I'm doing a big risky plan off the books to try and gain a major leap people are going to be pissed if they find this
Starting point is 00:41:56 prematurely we're already behind schedule like even he at the very end for all of the sinister you know presence he brings is just another fish in a chain of bigger and bigger fish that lead just up to the emperor i think the use of k2 so um to wait to reserve holding off until the final i mean we brought up earlier in chiro like he whoop so much ass and if he he would like conquer so much all they need is a hundred of him they could probably have a very efficient rebellion i'm thousand percent and i don't know why the empire doesn't use 100 of them they would probably just wipe out the whole but yeah i i loved uh i love the the domesticated life of them together how that showcase their friendship i love the i do love the action moments he's still
Starting point is 00:42:47 just as funny yeah and it further it magnifies their relationship do you think val kind of got like a a little bit of a backseat this season she was such an important character in the last it's like really associated her as part of the ensemble and i would forget she exists and after cinta especially here in season two yeah yeah and but i i mean she had a great monologue there uh after the death of cinta and she looks like she's doing well which is good one i like that in this chunk i like how she gets a forms of friendship but typically yeah and you get a little bit more in this season of the of her bond with Mon Mothma as actual family. I did appreciate it, even though
Starting point is 00:43:31 it's not, I feel like she becomes more of a support to Mon in some ways this season. But yeah, it was nice to, it was a good through line and too, you know, the way you have certain characters, we've come up with so much of this ensemble and through a character like Vell, you know, we've lost a lot of characters attached to Vell and attached to us, you know, and so like
Starting point is 00:43:53 the few people who remain who have had these high tolls like they do just like give this sort of collective pall that you it's weird like when they bring Clea back like and we've had versions of this with a Vell type character too it's like Claya has been so in control
Starting point is 00:44:08 and so active and now is like finally past a breaking point not that she won't you know be back out there in some way you know Vell obviously had to crush down everything that happened with Sinta but yeah there is that sort of like once you reach the safe house how like your whole body begins to sort of unpack all this stuff and I thought that Vell too had a lot of that presence where you could just feel the history whenever she did show up so I appreciated that and and too like as much as I do that I think the original plan was like we're going to do this for five seasons and I know I said earlier on in this season like man how are they going to do this all in one but this really felt like such a well thought out and structured you know
Starting point is 00:44:52 And released, even for all the conversation there is about release strategies. I was 100% wrong. This was like. I was greatly objected to it. And I thought it was dumping it. I would gladly say I was 100% wrong. Like this really did feel like this was engineered to like, yeah, it was released in just the right way to really, what am I trying to say? Accentuate and do justice to each chapter of the story.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Yeah. have a week you don't have to do it like we do it where you shotgun them all you could take a week and spread them out but you have that time and it's sort of organized and it's all it almost feels like these were the four these would have been four seasons it's just this is the amount of time you probably it feels like you needed to tell them yeah these four chapters well i like how two i mean this one seemed to have the least of it outside of the development of the death star every spark when are you caught up with them at the first episode they kind of just drop you in the middle of something because they're dropping the middle of something here but they drop they really drop you in the middle of something where stuff has happened off screen in that year that we don't we didn't see you know that took place and and it's it's really affecting them so it's like you you would think it was just the ending events of whatever the prior arc was but there was other shit that happened in the middle of that year that I think is like pretty sweet and the time jumping to yeah like having it be every like I know more apart really quick too sorry I really
Starting point is 00:46:21 really generally do not like time jumps yeah generally not a fan of them i i feel like um a big example to me is like for some reason it's the first one that comes to my is a true blood uh season four i think they do this like one year time jump or several years some bullshit and and it like kind annoyed me i hate a lot of times the off-screen development like that really bothers me um but not here i thought this was just right every arc was a sequel to the last arc Yeah, and it's like it gives you a countdown on the timeline of the, you know, counting down to BBY Zero. And yeah, it's also, I think it suits this because rebellions are a long protracted sequence of events
Starting point is 00:47:06 that you're not doing a massive attack every week, you know? Like, yeah, there's a constant striking and recharging and pooling of resources. And yeah, I was wary of that at the start of the season two. and once it I think it was as of the last block I was like this is a great choice and now like yeah every the pattern really sunk in and I was like
Starting point is 00:47:27 one more year and it makes it feel like even though it is one season 12 episodes decently contained it makes it feel bigger on the inside you know it makes it feel like more like we experienced and lived through more than we actually saw on camera
Starting point is 00:47:44 yeah I think that's a beautiful thing yeah man um Overall, man, I give this, uh, this song, let's give me a 10 out of 10. I thought the first couple episodes had some wonky stuff, whatever those, uh, future rebels would be. Um, yeah, outside of that, man, I mean, this show has been like, incredible. Some of the best TV. I would still give it, even my little things I didn't like in that first couple of episodes. Uh, I'm like, that doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:48:13 This is, this is like, this is brilliant. He got a girlfriend. We're good. And yeah. and after and yeah like dude i love lightsabers i i love jett i love you know i love the spirituality of the jett i love the lore of it you know like i love the the force and the jedi all that stuff that's a big part of star wars is dna and this show does not have that you know it has the force and it doesn't it doesn't have that thing that a lot of people will consider like but that is quintessential
Starting point is 00:48:43 star wars i understand and i can't i wouldn't disagree with you on that i do think it is um i think this is definitely the best written and directed show of of them all you know agree and like i love me some mandolian was in big fantasy's three but season one two i love those love those and man those like my favorite character uh but yeah i think it's i think it's the best one yeah of the star warships it's the most intentional it's the most finally crafted and tuned and yeah like this isn't everything star needs to be all the time but I think it's good to be able to miss the mysticism and the lightsaber so that the next time we return to them that's great too and then we can take a
Starting point is 00:49:26 break from the crushing weight of the realization that this is all based on real things that happen in life that we can go back to a skeleton crew and have some fun absolutely absolutely well now we're done talking tell us in the comments what did you guys think did you like this arc would you give it a high rating which arc was your favorite leave your thoughts down below be sure to subscribe click that bell leave a like let us know if you want to do rogue one i think we will already but i think i think it's in my head that we're going to do it go um right now he's watching right this minute thank you guys again and we'll talk to you guys soon may the force be with you rejectation

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