The Reel Rejects - AQUAMAN AND THE LOST KINGDOM (2023) Full Movie Review

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

THE END OF THE DCEU!! Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Before James Gunn launches the new DCU with Superman: Legacy, Jason Momoa (Fast X, Game of Thrones) returns for the Final Film in the DC Extended Universe continuity!! We give our Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, Breakdown, Ending Explained, and Spoiler Review for the film Directed by James Wan (Saw, Insidious, Fast 7) and co-starring Patrick Wilson (Watchmen, The Conjuring) as Orm / Ocean Master, Yahya Abdul-Mateen II (Candyman, Watchmen HBO) as Black Manta, Nicole Kidman (Moulin Rouge!, AMC Theaters We Make Movies Better) as Queen Atlanna, Amber Heard (Zack Snyder's Justice League) as Queen Mera, with Randall Park (WandaVision) & Temuera Morrison (The Book of Boba Fett), plus appearances by Dolph Lundgren (Rocky IV, The Expendables), John Rhys Davies (Indiana Jones, The Lord of the Rings), Martin Short (Only Murders in the Building), and MORE! Greg Alba, Andrew Gordon, and John Humphrey react to all the Easter Eggs & most exciting moments including the Final Fight Scene, Post Credits Scene, High Five, Aquaman vs. Black Manta, & Beyond!! Does this film deliver a fitting end to the DCEU?? Or does it flop to shore with a whimper? LET'S FIND OUT!!! #Aquaman #Aquaman2 #AquamanAndTheLostKingdom #JasonMomoa #DCEU #DCComics #WarnerBros #JamesWan #FirstTimeWatching #MovieReview #FirstTimeWatchingMovieReaction #JamesGunn #DCU #DCUniverse #ZackSnydersJusticeLeague  Follow Andrew Gordon On Socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/Agor711 Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Aparrel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Music Used In Manscaped Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG On INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh yeah. Favorite listeners on Apple and Spotify? We just watched Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom People now, now, now. Might I kick this off? Please.

No, no, no! Best moment in the entire movie. Best reaction ever from Greg. Let's give it. So funny. That was hilarious. All right. So before watching this, I really had no interest in watching it honestly like it it has gone down so much the first shirt was like

eh this is fine it's more the same and then the second trailer was like yeah i don't give a shit about this and then the reviews came out and it just seemed like no one was like in this movie and it just sounded awful and i was like this is going to be like a tedious boring experience so my expectations and I think for most of us were somewhere towards the ground. They were very much at the bottom of the ocean

and going into it, maybe that had something to do with it. I'm sure it did. I'm 100% confident in it. It's like, if this had crater fears, I'm like, what the hell is everyone talking about? But because they were so bad. I watched this.

And I kind of like the first Aquaman movie. that was one where I visually appreciated it so much so at the time. But as a narrative, I thought it was kind of a dull film. The characters I thought were boring. I was never emotionally hooked into anything that really happened. I just sort of watched stuff happen and was occasionally impressed and kind of just waited for the next action scene to happen. And this movie moves at such a fast pace.

it is a onslaught of noise and and just crazy action. But I had so much fun watching this. At times, was it paced in a way where, as you could always tell, like it just seemed like every single scene was trimmed. Every single, you feel that not even were trimmed, there are definitely deleted scenes in this experience. And a lot of tries to get saved by montages. and dialogue overlapping sequences.

Almost every single scene felt like it was significantly cut down. However, I still think that they managed to find a way to still be, I still feel like the ultimate end product was probably very self-aware. I still think that the script at hand, just because of certain things that are happening here, that there seemed to be an actual embrace of the silliness, of the cheese. the things that people would say worked about the prior film

I think they just exceptionally tripled down and then when we were told to cut down the film they were like well we got to just double down on that shit even more we got to just go through the mayhem even more because the action I thought

was consistently really entertaining that first action scene in Atlantis when Atlanta Nicole Kimman shows up I had that thought going of there's just so much craziness happening here, but I can easily keep up with what's going on.

And I thought James Wan's direction, you could actually feel James Wan... I feel like you only saw that kind of in doses in the last Aquaman movie, because for the most part, I wouldn't feel like James Wan was behind the camera on that. On this one, I felt like I was watching James Wan's camera work for most of the movie,

even if it got like, you know, tarnished via editing, via studio interference and whatever. I still felt like I saw his camera work on display where a lot of times it looked really cool. So I found myself laughing at the film. I found myself laughing at the film. I found myself laughing with the film. I really enjoyed the action.

Are there problems? So much problems. I constantly made up for it. There was only like a 10 to 20 minute stretch, I thought it was getting a little tedious and a little dull but for the most part I was they would do something

that would just like pull me back in like I had that comment at one point where I was like this movie should have ended 10 to 15 minutes ago and then they go into this action scene where Orm and not Orm Black Manta and Aquaman are trident tinging it off

in this crazy one take that looks straight out of anime movement as a camera movement for it that like wow was worth waiting the extra 10 to 15 minutes for that shot. That was freaking cool. You know, I had a really fun time with this.

And I think the effects were dogged on before watching. And are there some pretty bad effects at times? Yeah. But are there some great effects at times? Yeah. You know, for every bad thing, there was something that would happen that would just kind of pull me back in. And I would get lost in the swashbuckling video game, anime, B movie, sci-fi, mayhem that we were watching.

So I had fun with the. cacophony. Honestly, I did. And I have no dog in this fight to defend it. I never do. And I, especially now, like, it's over. D.C. is over. What's the point? Get that last minute shilling in. So I had, I actually had, and it's probably more fun in, you know, in an area like this where we can like kind of make fun of the movie and

like audibly. Sure. Sure. We don't all have to be silent and respect. Yeah. Resign ourselves through scenes and not like actually let out our moans and her groans and be like God, this is kind of stupid because I thought there's a lot of inventive wackiness and monstrous

mayhem happening throughout man so yeah all right boys flip a coin let's just do this at the same time yes like the reaction ready go take it away Andrew take it away all right

well like you Greg and you John I was not the biggest I know we're like the three people on the planet. I am the biggest fan of the first album. Yeah, we're like the three people on the planet who didn't care for the first film. Yeah, no, this one, I mean, it wasn't the greatest film. But I, like Greg, I had a lot of fun watching it. I think you said it best during the reaction.

Like, when I, one thing I do want to quickly touch on, I know I said Black Manta. He's a little more menacing in this. I meant the performance. I forgot the actor's name. Not the character itself. Yes, I know he had cordax, was affecting him. That whole thing could have totally been tarnished. And, you know, you could have just had the Black Trident,

and that's how he was able to power up without the whole cordax thing. I think that would have made it a little bit better. So I'm in total agreement there. I just meant his performance was much more menacing. Yes, we got way more screen time than he did in the first film. I just appreciated his performance a lot more. So I just wanted to clear that up.

All right, no fighting here, Greg. But, yeah, this film was, again, my expectations, I did not watch any trailers for this film because I don't know why. Why didn't you invite me? But, I don't know how to do this on my own time. That's true. I don't have access to the internet.

I don't have access to the internet. But no, I again, I wasn't the biggest fan of the first one. So I kind of just avoided the trailers. And I did not really have any expectations, if any, at all for this film. So having said that, I had a lot of fun watching this one. And I think the thing I appreciated the most besides Patrick Wilson and Jason Mamo's interactions, Jason Mamo's energy, who just kind of was just so infectious and just kind of just spread on to the audience, if you will. And I just loved his performance so much.

It was just fun. Also, too, who's the elephant in the room? It's going to say this. But she was barely in the film, which I understand. I don't think she needs to be an elephant in the room. She's really skinny. I want to call her. Yes, yes, exactly.

It's pretty fit. But, I mean, it wasn't really in the film, which is fine. I didn't, either way, didn't really bother me. But I can't really say anything. I would say, like, from a narrative point of view, like... Why are you making it weird, Andrew? I know, why am I making it weird? Whatever her presence is like most every other supporting characters' presence.

It doesn't feel particularly pointed. I would say from a narrative, I mean, if we're going to get into narratives, though, in terms of characters and arcs and all. that. I mean, I really didn't think Aquaman had much to do in the film. Yeah, he had to free his brother. And you know, there was the emotional arc there. But in terms of a character arc, like, you know, accepting being the king and that, like, because he kind of said, you know, in one of his interactions with his brother that, you know, I never wanted to be king. I don't like it. And then by the end of the film, like, okay, what has changed other than your brother said, like, you have to make the hard

decisions and you do that so well. I'm like, okay, that's it. Well, in the last one, he felt like he wasn't worthy of being king and this one he learns to kind of be like all right i i'm okay with being king oh powerful storytelling never never mind i take back everything that's why they throw a lot of shit at your face to distract yeah but okay but having said that the action sequences were a lot of fun albeit a few cg i think but like greg said there were a lot of cg that i really did appreciate whereas in the first film again there were some great cgis shots but there were a lot to where I was just like just jarring for me and just uh just in your face not enjoyable in my sense just taking me out of the film um but this film I I appreciated it a lot more um overall though

again it's it was a fun time is the best word I would use to describe this film um it's nothing super deep or anything but I don't think it was trying to be I appreciated how self-aware it was I mean he even called him Loki when I mean I mentioned you know me my I'm a reference machine and I even said it's like Thor the Dark World. So like, hey, we're trying to do Thor the Dark World. Let's just, I'm just going to call you Loki here. You know, my, I mean, so I actually appreciated it was aware of how ridiculous it was being and it was self-aware.

So, I mean, he started just does the I Am Iron Man thing. Yeah, yeah. And I feel like they know they're right drop. Yeah. Yeah, totally. But, yeah, no, I mean. I feel like Jason Moa improvise. Yeah, and I know this film got a lower rating score of 5.9, I believe, and the first film got like a

6.8 or whatever. I don't care. Who? On IMDB. I don't care, but I like this film more than the first one, personally. But I thought it was more fun, at least, than the first one, you know, in terms of narratives, I think they're both shite. Yeah. But I think this one was

more, if I ever had to rewatch this one or the first one, excuse me, I would definitely rewatch this one. Yeah. If anything, at least for the no, I would rewatch it for that. No, no, no. Um, yeah, I, I just think the seriousness in the first one, I, I could never take anything seriously. And I was just either laughing at or, but I felt like I'll laugh at it without it, without it being like any, any awareness that like this is, they really want to be taken seriously right now. And so here they were like, screw all seriousness. And we're not even going to really try. And really quick to your point, just really quick. And I'll let John go. To your point, there was a scene in the very first film where Black Manta's father was, uh,

about to die and like he's doing the slow dramatic run as he's like i don't care about either these characters and why like no and like with ruper gregson's williams's uh williams's music i'm like this is so ridiculous how serious it's trying to be right now and so to your point i completely agree with you john i felt like melodramatic where this had no drama it was just like some brush over the serious stuff but there's a positive message and shit and it's nice yeah all right john do all the criticisms sure the lack of supporting cast Black man to being a weak character, yet again. A waste of big villain at the end.

Predictability. Come on, there's a lot of bad things. Well, this is a fun and interesting experience in this movie because this movie represents so many of the pitfalls that so many other DC-EU movies have had. And I feel like, yeah, on the heels of the first Aquaman, I'm like, so much about this movie is like really similar to that movie. And even though that movie has an extra half hours worth of breathing,

This movie, having half hours less breathing room, comes across, like the first Aquaman is like the okayest of this entire wave to me. It's like flat in the middle. There's not much original about it. It's a little too serious, but it's got a big imagination. And this movie, I think there are a lot of bugs that come out of the choice to make it fast and breezy, but a lot of those bugs become features. And I think that's what it's like, yeah, hearing the response to this movie has been fascinating because to me, especially now having seen it, It feels like a lot of people's processing of this was very much ingrained in where it falls in the franchise. How much of a point is there to having this experience at all?

If we removed all that, I'm sitting here looking at this and thinking to myself, this is a perfectly fun swashbuckling, silly movie that manages to go after some of that Lord of the Rings scale. But instead of doing it in the weight of the crown and the drama, we're going to do it in the scope of all the crazy-ass places we got to go. and yeah I mean you know are is your whole supporting cast like winnowed down to the point where you forget half them are there until they show back up again like Amber heard not being here it would be one thing if she was the only character

that was happening to but like pretty much every character I would forget about except for Arthur and Orm and kind of Manta Shin is really like the third guy on that totem pole I was always having in mind really and then Manta way down here and then everybody else way down here so yeah like it's weird. There are plenty

of criticisms to levy and none of that stuff is really what comes to the forefront of my mind like it's yeah you get the globe trotting swashbuckling gallivanting you get some fun imagination you get your tributes that are obvious but without feeling like they're too impressed with themselves for doing those tributes in the first place

and yeah you know I feel like for the conclusion of this it's a little funky it's a little weird but I don't know I thought the the, just the, like you said, I've seen a lot of things, especially in this wave of cinema, that are noticeably retooled and reworked. And I've seen versions of that that go over a lot more poorly than this does.

So I am kind of fascinated at the response to this being as overtly sort of like, we knew this was going to suck and it did. Whereas I sit here and I kind of agree with you. I'm like, I would sooner probably throw this on as opposed to the first movie, because at least this movie we can get all the angsty shit out of the way and now we're just having fun and like yeah

gripes about Manta you know I feel bad for Yaha because even though I guess he had more screen time I felt like he had less screen time and they do that thing that has plagued a lot of these DC movies Black Adam comes most freshly to mind because it was most recent but like

yeah we have this demon guy who looks cool and comes from a cool place and that guy is basically just gonna take over this other guy who we actually have like an emotional connection to and then he's going to become the villain and like it's cool but also like we just go to Dun Harrow at the end

and do the Dead Army from Lord of the Rings for a hot minute and then we're done but like yeah like that's a true and like that goes even back to you you can find that in Wonder Woman and so many other of the DC movies and that's what I think is funny here is that they really did just like pull one of their tricks out and go yeah that's going to be the villain

instead of going with in relation to this and many other superhero movies lately I've heard people say we don't always need the world rending stakes sometimes personal stakes are better and this is an instance where I'm like damn it man they just made black man to have all they had to do

is have him maintain his agency he can go team up with cordax or whatever he wants but like have him maintain the agency so I care when the character shows up because it really made everything with him super super silly agreed my biggest

my biggest complaint of actually over everything is that I think they bought black man had some cool moments and there were some cool visuals around. I like the enhancement of the glowing of the red eyes. I was like through the smoke and the mist and you just see it like blending in with it. I thought was really cool.

But in terms of a character, you know, there is this like big scene where he, you know, he's going to, he's threatening Dr. Chin with the blade. And he's like, you want to know my ultimate plan? And he just reiterates him like, yeah, there's nothing new here. Yeah. That I thought we, wait, he wasn't in on this from like the very beginning.

Yeah. This is like the exact same plan. And as a character, I don't, I did, I thought they completely wasted him yet again. Completely. He's just more, more brooding. Like, he was already one note in the first movie, like with this, like a layer of, oh, I lost my father. So I guess it's not entirely. I felt like Yaya was at least bringing, trying to bring like a depth to the first movie.

And then this one, I think he saw how shitty this was and decided, whatever, I was going to go full force. I'm just aggressive. and it was way more one-note. This movie didn't give a shit about that character. Not at all. It's very obvious like Atlanta, I don't, Nicole Kim in, like her presence. That's the thing is that it's not just that they had less screen time,

it's that their presence wasn't even felt. Yeah. You would, that's why you would forget about them. You know, Atlanta, she would be there. Yeah, yeah, she's in the movie. And Mira especially, that was the one where I do think it seems very apparent that they certainly cut some shit out. She should have been more involved in this whole thing.

It was the bare minimum requisite amount they gave her because at first she's in it. And you're like, why isn't she ever with him on land with the baby? You never see them as a family together. And there's so much emphasis on the baby. I might care more about this baby. Literally forgot she died. She died. Yeah.

And then when she shows up and when she gets harmed, like, okay, well, she's not going to die. Maybe it should be more important. And then he just kind of just shows up for a couple of few badass moments, but she doesn't feel like a character. And I feel like Dolph London weirdly felt way more like a character than the other two. But that's like a barely a compliment because he was just that voice. The voice he's going to do it's a weird like dude or something. Mussel beach kid.

It's a weird voice. But I liked Patrick Wilson. I thought he was having fun. It was nice to see them like lighting up in a way. I didn't feel like they were sabotaging the characters that came prior. I don't feel like Orm was necessarily a bad guy in the first movie. I kind of understood where he was coming from. Like, yeah, if I was in this guy's position, I'd be like,

the surface people were bad. Why not? Why wouldn't you think that? And to see them kind of deconstruct that, pull that layer back, I thought was fun. Him and Jason Moa had good chemistry. Great music in this movie throughout. And again, I feel like there's an actual, like the first movie certainly breathes better. the first movie certainly feels like for all for all purposes it's a movie a movie it actually feels like a movie and this feels like some weird project but I had so much more fun watching this one than I did the other one they both have these qualities that feel so requisite in how they're telling their stories and I think the choice of pacing this one this way just works better if you're going to do that yeah because I at least like um I I I

I still feel like, wow, there's some cool James Wanisms in this one versus the last one where people are like, oh, you know, that trench scene when they see the trench people. That's like a James Wan-Moman, right? And Lee Wannell has a cameo, so it's super James Juan.

But everything else just felt like it could have been directed by somebody else. And this was the first time, you know, maybe that had something more to do with more scenes being not in ocean, but a little more like different locations, more land stuff where you, but even underwater. I think he got a better

grip on a lot of the visuals for, like, I like the more sci-fi populated cities. I really felt more like, instead of just populating it with a bunch of CGI creatures, I actually got a sense. I bet a lot of it was cut down. But you got a sense like,

go to that gangster world. It feels like Star Wars. Like, everything feels like it's like, you know, ripping off something else. They got traffic and they got a bar. Yeah. You know, they got all sorts of stuff. They had Jabba the Hut. They had news. Yeah, just king stuff. And Dolph Lundgren did say that a lot of the film was cut down.

So, I mean, as always, you know, we got to release the wand cut. But I'd say the most unbelievable thing that we saw, especially from Black Manus character, especially at the beginning that took us all immediately out, was that the helmet we saw was cut straight down, but the scar was in a diagonal line. It's like, I don't understand that. Yeah, it was weird.

I mean, it probably would look stupid, honestly. Oh, straight. supervision choice. Just had the helmet. What looks cool on one thing looks different on another thing. So we got to have them both be cool. Like, it's a movie about a man who can swim.

I mean, he barely does king stuff. They have so much so that they have to lay out what he did at the very end. So that way we know what he did as a king. Like when Orms were citing all that, I was going, I didn't really pick up on any of that. All this stuff about, you know, hey, you're willing to do the hard things

and when doing the wrong things. thing is easy and, you know, even helping out, we're going to your worst end of me. I'm like, yeah, there was like no real emotion to any of that shit throughout this journey. But I'm glad you laid that out. Just doing what he asked to do. I'm glad you told me what was going on. Yeah. But in a way

that's better. That's good. We should be able to look back and be like, oh, he is right, isn't he? Yeah, but for the tone of this film, I mean, I don't know if that would work for this. I don't care. I don't care. Because, yeah, it was fun. It's it's fun. There's somebody just like,

actual style to it though at the same time there's style there's purpose and there's like truly rewarding action visual scenes it feels like people showed up it feels like they maintained a spirit of fun along the way and it feels like they didn't give up when the movie got gutted like it seems like they really worked to smooth it out as best they could like there are sequences and visuals that i would gladly like look up a clip for you know yeah i don't know if i'd ever watch this movie again I would sort of look up certain seeds of key moments. The one where those crabby things are going. It's very inventive.

There was that one where the crabby things are going like into the wall. Yeah. Like that was pretty cool. I mean, yeah, quite a few of those. No, it's got a lot of imagination and a lot of like fun comic book stuff. Like this felt more like paging through some kind of swashbuckling comic book. Yeah, it's more Madcap. Yeah.

Skull Island. It's everything. It's a whole bunch of things. It's a whole bunch of movies just smashed into one. Yeah. In a way where once in a while, It's, you know, at times, though, I did, I would find myself craving. All right, slow it down a little bit.

So, because you've got to have a bit of a balance that way the madcapness can be more rewarding and enjoyable. For sure. You just need that balance. So, because if it's just that one pace, which it is. But I guess that's, if I had one actual gripe, it would be that, like, I think they could have spent any amount of time. And I know people will whinge of Amber Heard's in this movie anymore, but I think it would have been a most. more a conscientious choice to favor the movie and maybe show them as a family just a little bit. So that baby becomes more than just a literal McGuffin.

She's just in like her same outfit the entire movie. Yeah. She doesn't get more than a couple lines in any of her scenes. Which I watch something like this and I'm like, it's distracting. I know people lost their minds when that court case was going on. But you know what? Make the movie smooth and just feature her a little bit more inappropriate places. Yeah, I mean, if you're going to feature her, you might as well commit.

Yeah. You know, like she's in it. It's not like she shows up in the beginning and leaves forever. Like, you know, you're intermittently placing her throughout. You might as well commit. And it's funny. Arthur's freaking baby. Yeah.

And we barely even spend time. Like, once we leave the baby after the prolog, I had to, like, the movie once it cut back, I was reminded like, oh, shit, he's got a kid that's right. Oh, yeah. And, I mean, you do see mirror there in the beginning for like a tiny bit. But like her. It leaves no impression. They're leaving, yeah, I was like, wait a minute,

where does she, is she like, like sometimes staying here? Does she ever come see the kid? Yeah, because sometimes she's not. Like, what is the living situation? Does Arthur live with his dad? It seems like Arthur constantly buzzes off and just stays on land. And it's like, screw the kingdom.

This is where I sleep is my home. You know, but he clocks out at 6 p.m. It's like not there ever. Yeah, it's strange. I'm like, guys, I get it. I know you hate this person for various reasons. We won't talk about it. that's a good idea for a spinoff though it would be nice yeah if if this baby's mother was around

if we're going to commit to the idea that she and arthur is still together all right well would you like more of the flash of this andrew wow what a question jesus oh my goodness why do you have to put me on um oh god this was definitely more fun i would probably choose this but oh michael keaton's my favorite batman the highs and flash are higher but this is a much more consistent experience. I would probably choose to watch this, but I, but I, like, watching Michael Keaton back is Batman, but I, I would probably choose this. This is a movie I wanted to stay looking at no matter what, whereas there are many

times during Flash where I would rather not look at what is on screen. Yeah, the, as much as I think the answer should be probably Flash, I think I would probably watch this sooner. The two Barry Allen's just really annoyed me, but I would probably say the, I'd probably choose this. I feel like the Flash is probably a more cohesive movie, much stronger like a better

movie. Probably. I'd rather watch this. I'm talking movie versus experience. It's probably a better conceived and assembled film maybe perhaps. Also too being such a fan of Flashpoint paradox in general, I'd rather watch this. Yeah. I just feel like that was such a misguided decision in general.

I wonder this Jason Mowardra. I didn't think I would. he was here he seemed even more even though like a lot of the takes weren't consistent you could tell that there were reshoots he had a tear shedding too yeah he committed you got yeah I'm gonna miss him as Aquaman I was like oh sure you know what I am gonna miss him

he's still good hey but he is my man yeah he's still gonna remain in the D's whatever they're calling it so that's good news I guess oh and not I guess I'm happy he's still sticking around Lobo or whatever he's going to be so that's the question because they don't have any Aquaman stuff slated

right now. So are they going to do this thing where they do like a phase one and then go okay, this is going all right? Oh, we're bringing him back as Arthur Curry. Or are they going to go Lobo? Because I feel like they could do either. And this is an ending with huge implications that apparently is not going to matter at all.

Yeah, man. They gave vibranium to the world. It's a huge ending that's like, none of it matters now. Yeah. Go big or go home. Or go big and go home. Even though nothing ended up happening from here, are you said we didn't get a Ben Affleck scene or a Michael Keaton scene. I just would have loved to have Ben Affleck especially because they actually got him to come back.

Yeah, no, no, no, we saw it. And originally they were supposed to have Michael Keaton do a scene as well. But yeah, and I think you are right. Like that whole meeting at the end, I'm like, it does seem weird for the Justice League not to be here. Like, hey, welcome one of our teammates. You know, here for support. Yeah, like we all thought up. We talked about this first.

I remember that Steppenwolf's thing. Yeah, I was there to help out. Yeah. I was a part of that. So you guys know me from that, and now I'm in the spot like you here. I want to talk to you about ecology, saving the planet.

Yeah, I mean, knowing that this is it, I understand why, but yes, agreed. They do distracting Justice League cameos in every other movie. What did it make cool

if they did the Shazam thing, just showing them from the back with that. Show them, but just their butts. All we need to wear is, the Wonder Woman theme. Play every theme on top of itself. Just, yeah, they're all showing up.

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