The Reel Rejects - Avengers Doomsday NEW SUITS, Peacemaker Ep 6 & Man Of Tomorrow HUGE Reveals, Spider-Man 4 VIILLAIN

Episode Date: September 27, 2025

Lex Luthor, Earth-X Nazi World, Man Of Tomorrow (Superman 2), Avengers: Doomsday NEW SUITS Revealed, & Spider-Man Brand New Day Tombstone Announcement! Greg Alba & Coy Jandreau go live to break down t...he biggest Marvel reveal yet—nearly 30 character designs from the Russo Brothers’ massive MCU event film (2026). Makeup/SFX artist Gi Ponci’s wrap gift promo art shows comic-accurate X-Men (Cyclops, Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, Gambit), updated Fantastic Four (Reed Richards, Sue Storm, Johnny Storm, Ben Grimm), Thor’s armored new look, Namor’s green-scaled redesign, and Robert Downey Jr.’s Doctor Doom in full Latverian armor. Plus: Sam Wilson’s Captain America, Silver Surfer, Baby Franklin Richards, and more! We’ll dive into what these suits mean for Marvel Phase 6 and Avengers: Secret Wars. We’re also covering the HUGE casting news for Spider-Man: Brand New Day (2026) with Marvin Jones III as Tombstone, the brutal Harlem crime boss who has clashed with Spider-Man, Daredevil, and Cloak & Dagger. How will Tombstone compare to past villains like Green Goblin and Kingpin, and does this signal Black Cat or Mister Negative joining the MCU? Finally, we recap Peacemaker Season 2 Episode 6, featuring John Cena’s Peacemaker, the Earth-X Nazi world reveal, and Nicholas Hoult’s Lex Luthor cameo teasing Superman: Man of Tomorrow (2027). James Gunn is laying heavy groundwork for the DCU’s future, tying directly into the upcoming Superman film starring David Corenswet and Rachel Brosnahan. Expect hot takes, deep dives, theories, and live chat interaction across both Marvel and DC fandoms. Stick around for breakdowns, Easter eggs, and speculation on Avengers: Doomsday, Spider-Man: Brand New Day, Peacemaker Season 2, and the road to Man of Tomorrow. Follow Coy Jandreau:  Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:30 It started with a scream inside a quiet Maryland home, a mother trying to protect the family dog and her son in the grip of a violent hallucinogenic rage. By the time it was over, she was dead, and he claimed LSD made him do it. His name, David Minor the 4th, and we talked to him. Listen to Invisible Choir every other week as we uncover the most haunting true crimes you've never heard of, available wherever you get your podcasts. Our work, so you have to, like, find them on your body. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:11 And, like, rows are good. I love, like, a bar row. I love, like, a bent over, like, dumbbell robe, and, like, hyper extend, like, almost like a crab show. Yeah, I'm doing back day, like, twice a week now. Can you swim? Are we live? Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:01:25 Can I swim? Yeah. I know how to swim. Swimming is, like, really good for your lots, because it's, like, a full body like if you especially if you're like i want the wings that's like jason statham's got wings because of swimming yeah like that dude's got a tortoise shell because of like swimming i can't swim so i like i don't have that oh you don't know how to swim like i like doggy paddling's hard for me i sink really like i don't know how to swim yeah yeah i can't swim so like dangerous
Starting point is 00:01:50 wow yeah i didn't know a coy fact can't swim very interesting thing living near the ocean do you like two in your head when you try or when someone tries to teach here i can't like get my body to float without panicking and then like i get really tired because all i can do is like little motions like doggy paddle so it's like not efficient i don't have like the efficiency or the control to flow which are two key factors in swimming that's wild like i can go underwater and like push myself a couple but then i have to come up for air so it's not effective john i know you like keeping the peace are we live oh we're live with swim talk here at real rejects you can always feel free to interrupt next time and be like hey just so you know
Starting point is 00:02:30 you're revealing your biggest secrets online now the world knows john be sorry i thought it was apparent when i said i'm hitting go live on youtube you know he might have a point they won't cast me on water world too now you know john you might be correct my aquaman three chances are gone i thought this was a good slice of light i'll never be no more about who you are underneath it all under the surface true we need to be relatable yeah we don't talk about ourselves enough we lack We should make sure no one knows anything about movie news just about us. What is going on there, citizens of the Reject Nation? We have a lot to talk about today.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I was reflecting on the car right over of like, I've been feeling really good about comic book properties lately. When we look at the week that we had, Fantastic 4 Digital Release, Gen V, Marvel Zombies, while low on the critic score, audiences are responding really strong to it. You can even tell by our view count on the reaction. I noticed that. I look at that of how the audience is responding to looking at people's experience. I was genuinely surprised by how well it's doing in terms of our video.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Yeah. Because I didn't know at all how people would respond. Like we covered it. We shot it before any reviews were out or anyone's opinion was out. So we had no idea what people thought. Which I love. The vacuum of like our actual experience before it's like, well, we got this. I got this.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Oh, I hear this. It's so nice to have that. little void. Yeah. So I, because I really loved it. And I said void. The void. I really loved it. And I don't know if, uh, you know, that came across to the audience, but I was hoping this would be the response. And I'm really glad it is. Yeah, I'm really happy about that. It's cool to see. And then of course, we got Peacemaker. Yeah. Season two with a big reveal in there. And James Gunn's brainiac, uh, what seems like a confirmation of, of Brainiac essentially? Like, it's a lot of brains in that
Starting point is 00:04:21 image. I think we're at a point right now where I, I, I, I, feel like whatever we were talking about would fatigue. Yeah. This week seems to be the exact opposite of that. And it's a random week in September. Like this isn't a Comic-Con, this feels like a Comic-Con news week. Yeah, really. The volume of stuff we're going to discuss feels like it's either D23, Comic-Con,
Starting point is 00:04:40 fandom. Like, it feels like a glut of news, but it's September 26th. Yeah. Okay. So if you haven't seen the title of the video, we're going to talk about how this hair and makeup person from Avengers Doomsday posted a photo on their Instagram story of like it was like a promotional gift bag or something yeah you get like rap gifts and like it seems to be some unofficial official official arts from a rap gift yeah which
Starting point is 00:05:07 shows like new types of suits which is pretty crazy and then we're going to talk we will doc spoilers of peacemaker season two but we will give a heads up when we are doing that spider man brand new day it's got an official villain I wanted to also briefly touch on dene the news Bund. Because there's been some information coming out about it. And I thought it was really interesting stuff. But I think we're also going to talk a little bit more to the bigger picture about leaks and rumors, some side tangent conversations.
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Starting point is 00:06:00 We go live every Friday at 12 p.m. I can now confidently say that since now it's a few weeks in a row. And once I felt good about laying that down, I suddenly lost my train of thought. I feel confident about noon on Friday and nothing else. Nothing else. We go live and what we do is we go through what we want to discuss first, which I'm sure this is what a lot of you want to hear about.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And then afterwards, we go to the open Q&A. So thank you guys for being here. Interactive yourselves in the chat, and we will be checking in with the chat as well. Now, before we go into anything, before we go into anything, our editing team, Praper. Yes. Nailed me a gift.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Oh, how kind. And I opened it. And I was like, who sent this? I didn't even know. I was like, this must be for me based off what the products are. I see them. So, John, do you mind handing those over to me really quick? I really want to shout them out.
Starting point is 00:06:57 It's really kind that they're in India, and the fact that they would mail this over, that the shipping costs is probably more than what the item is. Very kind. What a quest. Yeah, exactly. All right, so check it out. We got a Chandler Bing pot figure.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Adorable. Chandler being one of my all-time favorite characters and easily a person who I credit a character. The only fictional character I credit in my, were like saving my life in a lot of ways when I was a child for finding a way to express myself and someone who I identify with simultaneously. It's all Friends Memorabilia.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I got this Friends Planner book, which I haven't opened yet, which I'm excited to look at. I don't even know what's in here. What is this? Wireless TV show. It's drugs. Drugs?
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah, open it live. About time to get some drugs. what oh my god is it a little is it pop open I'm scared what a random cool here oh my god it's a music box
Starting point is 00:08:09 oh no it opens and says I'll be there for you I thought the tune was that but then the speed changed and then this bad boy which one day I think we should do a video Because I suck at building Legos. I suck at building Legos. So it would be fun if we built this together. We should build it while Friends is on.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Oh, that would be really fun. We should have friends on. That would be a blast. You know, that's like how I relax is doing puzzles or Legos while having like a podcast on or a vinyl on. Because it uses both parts of your brain. Like your right brain and left brain. One is activated by physical.
Starting point is 00:08:41 One is activated by sound. So it's really good to like relax using like not work based tools using both sides of your brain. So I do a lot of puzzles with audiobooks and it helps you retain the audio book better. What beautiful advice you just instilled there, Coy. Appreciate your words of wisdom, my friend. Helping out the people. Well, let's kick this off, people. Thank you for being here again.
Starting point is 00:08:59 John, do you want to pull up that Avengers Doomsday image? I thought you'd never ask. Let's go with this one. Let's do it. This is crazy that this got out there. What's crazy to me is that it's out there officially not struck. Yeah. That's the beat for me.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Well, we were talking beforehand. There was a couple of leaks that did happen, which seemed like very real photos. People often argue, like, is this AI? Is this not AI when it comes? I'm not talking about these images that are on screen right now. I haven't seen the images you're talking. So I'm not even going to tell you what's in the image. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:36 But there was a time when those images went out, no matter what social media platform and Marvel would strike them down. And if other press outlets reported on them, Marvel would strike them down. Yeah. And to our bigger conversation with Spider-Man brand new day where we were discussing how this is the opposite of what No Way Home was in terms of secrecy, they're letting the public more in on the experience and letting the reveals go out there. I think Marvel is leaning into that now, allowing leaks or whatever or a crew member posting something prematurely to just remain because it's helping to. They're trying to regenerate the Marvel hype. I don't know if it's working because I don't feel like this stuff is...
Starting point is 00:10:23 There was a time where this image that we're looking at, it would be a wild storm on YouTube. It would be a wild storm on Twitter. So it's not really like spreading like crazy, but I do like what I'm seeing. I will say. Yeah. I got a few ideas.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Please. Please. One, I completely agree that the tone has changed. But speaking to your point, opening today's episode, I think it's the volume of stuff. Like, we listed 10 things that are happening today with comic book news. So I think this is a big deal. But when you look at the scope of the peacemaker reveal and the brand new day photos and the brand new day villain reveal, like all that stuff, this is very exciting.
Starting point is 00:11:05 But it's not, oh my God, I can't believe Blank is in this movie anymore because we've had 40 Marvel properties at this point. So it doesn't have that same like, they're doing it. Like, they've done it. So I think it is an interesting. way to drum a pipe in a way that is low cost slash free um i don't know those images because i try to avoid rumors as best i can but i love about you mentioned no way home versus brand new day no way home was a closed set brand new day was a on location set brand new day let photographers come shoot but when there were story elements they closed the set so there were days we did not see from
Starting point is 00:11:38 galway that were down the same street we saw all those amazing images in so i think it's interesting that they do seem to be letting things out but keeping it controlled to a point. So this to me, and the reason I wanted to talk about it is this versus those images that I haven't seen feels like we know 80% of this already. And this is an official piece of merch from the set. Now, that doesn't mean it was ever meant for the public, but the fact that they didn't stop it from going to the public doesn't give us a lot of information, but it does cause that like, oh, I'm a little more excited. And there were no leaks from the doomsday set. Zero. So this to me is the equivalent of like, well, let's give them a taste. Let's not take it down.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I don't know if an official person approved it, but a lot of official people approved it being up. So that to me is like, it's not like a scooper, like getting an image off a hard drive and comparing, you know, dictating. Like that's not going to be approved, but this is going to be a way to have,
Starting point is 00:12:32 I thought you couldn't say the C word. Is it 80? The original version of this was actually just a bunch of crotch bulges. I heard John make a sound. Do you have to edit that? I was so careful with my word. I think you can.
Starting point is 00:12:45 can get a, you know, network TV allows you to say it. That's what I thought. I even paused. I was like, which word can I use for John? So he doesn't have to edit me. Well, people understand the reference I'm making. A male bulge is something that was compared with a leak that was like taken off a hard drive.
Starting point is 00:13:02 This wasn't. And I think that's the line that we're walking, right? Like this isn't a leaker ruining a surprise. This is a crew member being proud of their work. And I think that's the line that I think Marvel is walking. It's very interesting. that is a very new line. It is very new.
Starting point is 00:13:19 The person who posted it then set their account to private. Ah, didn't know that. They set their account to private. But to my understanding, they're not like, I don't think they're fired or anything like that. It's such a new frontier with, you know, journalism used to have checks and balances, and then the internet was like, rah!
Starting point is 00:13:39 And then there was a constriction, and now it's like, what's the level we land? Well, I don't know if they set there. What I mean by that is I went to, I went to their Instagram because they had the story the screenshot of the Instagram story has their name has their name and they said on that Instagram story post like I can finally share this right so I wanted to go to their Instagram because I saw the report was from a makeup hair artist so I wanted to see who they were but their Instagram's private or they blocked so I might be miss speaking here or the yeah I don't I hate Greg Alba in particular but I want to look at the images more I want to get Coy's thoughts on some of these yeah I've only glanced at this I haven't I haven't like I got a clear image on my phone. I can show you. And I can look at it and we'll go line by line.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yeah, yeah. Let me, uh, I should have, I should have prepared beforehand. Hold on. I have so many random pictures in here. My God. What's weird is I emailed this to John, and so I should just go to the email, which would be right there, wouldn't it? If I just did that instead. This is good.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Dead space. Yeah, people love just pauses. We don't embrace sign. You can't hear it, but we got background music. We're doing good over here. Here you go, Coy. I'll work off. I'll just hand me it.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I'll work off John's monitor. Okay. Yeah. Okay. On the top left, Doom. Yes, sir. Looking much like the images we have seen from official confirmations with marketing and press and also looking like Doom.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I can't quite tell, but that does look. like a Rune belly. I see a little Rune belly. We've talked about it on Doom. I'm still on Doom. Oh, on Doom? You're still on Doom. But look, well, that's going to be the most, like, the rest of these, we know these people.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah. But, like, Doom to me, he's got a little Rune Belly. We remember we saw that in the official image that came out last week. Yeah. I'm going to go down. Let's go to Thor. What I find interesting here is we've got Thor, Captain America, and Ant Man. So in the Doom category, we've got like some phase one through three years here.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Thor or short hair? Yeah, that's just Chris Hemsworth, not wanting to wear a wig anymore, I think. Yeah. I think it's just, that man's played him 20 times. There's no reason to really read into it. Just, just. Or maybe there is a narrative purpose. Just Hemmy doing limitless at the same time.
Starting point is 00:15:58 There's a traumatizing scene where Doom shaves his head again. Underneath, it's Stanley. I could see it being the Russo brothers intentionally wanting him to have short hair. That way they're getting away from the last images that we had of him and Thor, Love and Thunder because that was such a widely negatively received experience for Marvel fans. And I think of him as having long hair, but he has had it in Ragnarok, which was beloved. And Infinity War. Which is their.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Yeah. Their guy. Yeah, exactly. So maybe it's a, you know, a subconscious, let's look at him at his best. Yeah. Then we got Captain America there, you know, looking like the winter soldier suit. We saw, you know, kind of get teased in New World Order. What do they call it?
Starting point is 00:16:43 Brave New World Brave New World. Alvis Huxley. Well, they called it the other one for a while. Yes, they did. Neither one helped. And then we got Ant-Man
Starting point is 00:16:53 in his traditional suit looking like Paul Rudd, ever ageless. I do like the little lab coat nod. I mean, it's a white jacket, but it makes me think lab coat on Reed there. And then we've got new suits on Sue and Ben looks like it's a blend between like a comic accurate suit the one we saw
Starting point is 00:17:09 in, you know, obviously the movie. And then there's also a chance. that this is not exactly what they're wearing. Oh, yeah. This could be pre-vis imagery that, you know. A lot of time it's tribute. Because they made this probably six months before, like, yeah. It's probably from the pre-vis. Yeah. And then we got
Starting point is 00:17:25 you know, Johnny Storm for some reason, looking 12. Looking like is that Franklin? Is that Franklin? It could be. I was wondering that. That'd be weird if they're on, if they're all stacked together. Yeah. But why is Joseph Quinn 12? I don't know. It could be
Starting point is 00:17:41 the angle. All right. Well, yeah. either Franklin or Johnny right there looking fly but even his shoulders are so narrow what's happening alright let's go up to Sebastian Stan what I find interesting about this image and why I think this is based off previs
Starting point is 00:17:53 that hair looks like the Thunderbolt's hair not like his post-crediting hair where he had that luscious Vidal Sassoon yeah but the Russo brother shot that Thunderbolts one right themselves so to me if he's going to look any sort of way it's going to be Michael Bade up
Starting point is 00:18:09 yeah then we've got obviously shirry as black paint Anther, looking like she's rocking the Wakanda armor there. We've got, which we've seen a little bit of, but we only saw in like the last act of Wakana forever. So I'm excited to see more Shuri. We've got Shung Chi, who I think is probably the most anticipated comeback because we got him for one movie. I remember the pop and, you know, zombies was huge because we were like, all right, we love him. So he's your most anticipated?
Starting point is 00:18:33 I think he's the most. You think for like general audiences? Because I think out of phase four, that's the one people are like, I want more of him. And he was also, I think the original plan for the trilogy was going to be. um shung chi into kang dynasty into a vendor like that was going to be the arc and that's why i think danian desta creton was directing it i think it was going to be a very shung chi avengers film so i i'm wondering how they navigate that with simu well yeah the 10 rings seemed like they were going to be a very significant part of the plot yeah and that i think got i think they were tying to
Starting point is 00:19:00 kang and i think they got so i think the original idea was a much bigger shang chi arc so i'm hoping he gets to at least be something predominant here so i i would say he's going to be the biggest draw from phase four I feel like the attention is going to go to the Fantastic Four or more. I mean, my most excited thing is to see Cyclops Kid is due. We're going to get there. All right. We got Loki, which, you know, if they ruin that ending, I'm going to be bad. Ruin the ending?
Starting point is 00:19:27 The Loki Season 2 is a perfect ending for the character. How is the God of Story is going to do anything except invalidated? Like, if you kill them, are stories dead? We're watching one. What? It's the perfect ending for the character. What do you do from there? I mean, Loki has to remain there, doesn't he?
Starting point is 00:19:48 Yeah. Or he has to get a replacement. Well, they're going to go like tickle him? What's going to happen in his little chair? Leave him alone. Is there a different Loki and we can kill a fourth one? Loki's died more than Xavier. Well, could Doom somehow take control of Loki?
Starting point is 00:20:02 My fear is that Doom is going to have to kill Loki because they don't have Kang in it. Because they need the power scale. And he's going to do the Thanos rip because that's what everyone's waiting for. Yeah. And beyond that, how do you power scale more? Yeah. I'm afraid Loki's going to have to be the Kang. Because Thanos, I think, was already going to be, like, we heard rumors of Brolin
Starting point is 00:20:20 come back years ago. I feel like Kang was already going to be higher up than Thanos as far as like, oh, but since Kang got his end effectively in Loki as well, I feel like it's got to be Loki. Yeah, that's fair. And now I'm worried because I don't want them to undermine, you know, that beautiful season two. That is a concern. It would be weird. God of stories.
Starting point is 00:20:39 If they do actually factor in the main narrative of a television show, it would be a little refreshing. I mean, I think Thunderbolts did. Those were all like TV characters. Were they? I mean, Walker. Elena appeared first in Black Widow. Yeah. Oh, she was in Black Widow before Hawkeye.
Starting point is 00:20:58 You're right. Yeah. She was in Hawkeye-I-Ton, so I think of it as Hawkeye. Yeah, David. She's double TV. Red Guardian. It's mainly movie characters. You're right.
Starting point is 00:21:06 The thing is that when we last saw a lot of them, it was in a, TV show. So I think that's where the confusion of the narrative comes in. Walker was Falcon Winter Soldier. Walker's the main one who's from a television show. But the rest are all movies. You're right.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Originating, but the last time we saw him. Yeah. Yeah, I'm curious. They have to kind of at least acknowledge like Loki was a big thing. And they didn't do any acknowledgement of the Falcon Winter Soldier stuff for Bucky,
Starting point is 00:21:28 which is still my favorite performance of Bucky. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like the relationship between the two of them is so good. Yeah. Like one of the best relationships in Marvel is them. And I think the best of them is in that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And I didn't like Brave New World, but I like their scene together. Yeah, yeah, because their chemistry is real. Like, in real life, Seb's always talking about Anthony and Anthony's always talking about Sebastian Stan. Yeah. Sebastian Stan is a phenomenal actor, by the way. Good God.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I've seen randomly way more work of the guy. Different man? I haven't seen different man now. I want to watch that. I got obsessed kind of after Pam and Tommy. He's so good in that. He's so good. He's also like the sweetest guy.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Like, of anyone that's come out of Marvel, I think he's had the best career that has spun out of being in these films, but also, like, he is such an advocate and like an on the boots actor that's like outspoken about stuff and I like when actors are like a person as well as just tonight like I hate when an actor's like I just show up and leave I'm like what about you yeah I hear that a lot about him yeah I uh big fan uh all right next up we've got I believe Yelena Bolova up there up top okay that makes sense I assume um looking widowish that makes sense because right underneath is red guardian exactly red guardian uh all shaven uh I assume that's no more's on the bottom is that Winston Duke yeah and Bacca oh yeah and Bacca oh yeah yeah, it's probably Mbaku, right? Yeah. So Mbaku looking like he's in some, like, ceremonial garb. Yeah, Winston Duke was one of the early...
Starting point is 00:22:46 Oh, he was one of the first chairs. Yeah. Okay, so, yeah, we got Winston Duke there. We got Nimor down bottom. I love that Namoire's got an actual outfit going on there. It looks very, like, it could nod to one of his comic outfits. I think of them in green, but there are blue costumes that he has worn. I assume under there is Wonder Man.
Starting point is 00:23:07 You think Wonder Man will come? into this? I mean, that red jacket. It's not a scarlet somebody or a magnet somebody because he's right above Xavier. Oh, see, I'm going so zoomed in. I didn't look about who's next to. This is why I feel like this is a planned
Starting point is 00:23:22 photo. This release. I feel like there's something... Because of what we're doing around. I think there's something. Yeah, what we're doing right now. And the fact that some are covered. Some are seem intentionally covered, especially the one in red. Also, you know... Is it Magneto? It could be Magneto.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I I could totally be made Xavier's underneath John just pointed out I didn't even look at proximity I'm zoomed in so you're right that is Xavier underneath him yeah I also also the timing of this remember it was and the reason I wanted to do this and it was because it's an official release to a point they did this the week of they were going to do another chair thing
Starting point is 00:23:57 remember everybody's like they're doing another one I think this is that yeah and there's there was some other showcase where they they actually showed Robert Downey Jr. as doom oh really somebody I forget where this event was So they're doing stuff. Yeah, this feels... They're showing shit now. That, you're right.
Starting point is 00:24:11 This feels like a thing. I think it's an intentional thing that they wanted out there. To make us go, who's that? It's like a planned... Especially because the more of this channel's grown, the weirder emails I get from studios that I do not participate in. But sometimes you get an email. They're trying to like make this look like... It's like trying to...
Starting point is 00:24:32 Talk about this, baby! Yeah, yeah. Interesting. Can we go back to the photo, John? So, yeah, we got... who appears to be Magneto or a Scarlet Witch, perhaps, or a Wonder Man. Xavier looking, he's got a new fit. He's got the ex insignia on his shirt, very comic book accurate.
Starting point is 00:24:47 We got the already comic book accurate. It doesn't look like he has a yellow, yellow chair. Oh, that's a good point. Oh, no big yellow chair. What's he doing? No yellow chair. That's so it denotes a different Xavier from another universe because yellow chair, Xavier died.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yellow chair, dead. He did. That was one of the best cameos of all time. It was. I'm so glad they put the trailer. And then we got Gambit looking like his comic accurate. Channing Tatum, Deadpool Wolverine act here itself. I hope he has a black eyes more in this one.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Like they do the... He said that he changed up his voice in this one too. Oh, because it's going to be a different tone. Yeah, he can't do what he did before. This is not a common. I'm excited to see what he adapts to. I'm excited to new, yeah, another new game. And if they're the eyes to denote like another, that'd be cool.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And if we have audio right now, just so you know, we didn't say any of this before. Yeah, this is new. This is fresh. All my excitement about exclifes, you're going to get to live again. And then we got a clad mystique. Yes. She got close. They gave her clothes.
Starting point is 00:25:39 They put her in the white fit, comic accurate, but not Brian Singer, X-Men accurate. Rebecca Romaine. I know. I know. I agree.
Starting point is 00:25:46 We lost her stamoses. She got divorced, so now she's Rebecca Kameh. She's a Jerry McConnell now. Is she? Yeah. Good for them. Oh, that's a cute couple.
Starting point is 00:25:56 All right. This is all worth it so I can learn that. All right. We got Beasts, who we know Kelsey Grammer is coming back. This is my most anticipated red here by far. Cyclops has never been James Marsden comic accurate there's one scene with tie sheridan getting the comic accurate ish suit but it's all
Starting point is 00:26:14 of them comic accurate and then they cut and at the end of the movie and then the next movie there's in the in the tech tactical suits again hate that so my most anticipated thing is seeing james marsden get his due and be in a comic accurate jimley looking fit that makes me so happy uh we also get a new suit on night crawler who's got a beautiful uh like you know shone's big boy hair going um got a lot going on with that embroider hair there uh and there's more comic accurate than what he looked like an X-Men too yeah but all things considered X-Men 2 he was pretty comic accurate I mean they added like skin texture and backstory which I thought was actually it added to the character he was great I'm very curious like what they do to bring those worlds together
Starting point is 00:26:52 not really going to be a character Alan coming was out speaking recently and he said we eventually got a script yeah shit like that worries me I've been worried Greg honestly I'm actually surprised how early they wrapped they wrapped this week. This is a rap party gift. They're going to do reshoots forever. I'm going to get called a hater. I think this is a wrap party to show confidence in the movie and their additional
Starting point is 00:27:20 photography is going to be like three months long. Oh yeah, yeah. It's not going to be like an additional photography. It's going to be like, we're wrapped. Okay, we're back. Let's shoot a movie. A lot of directors say the real draft comes in the editing or something to that effect. They're going to make this movie and they're going to find what they need.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Usually it's, you know, that's like a. a thing you say. Yeah. This is a case where it's really made in the editing group. And now additional photography is normal, especially with Marvel. I think this is going to be an exceptional amount of it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the difference is I think this is a rap.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Yeah. But I think it's going to be another movie they shoot. Crazy stuff. What else we got? We got John Walker down there. We got, and he looks the same as Thunderbolts. And this one, I think that's Hannah John Cayman. It could be Haley Steinfeld.
Starting point is 00:28:08 She was announced. though. But I think it's Hannah John. None of these people are new. Yeah, so that makes me think it's someone we know. Haley Stamphel was not announced. And that makes me think it's someone we know, which is Hannah John Katham, Kaman, who I think stole a lot of Thunderbolts and really established how great of an actor she has and how cool ghost
Starting point is 00:28:22 is. I think she was one of the big sleeper characters, but it's like, why is ghost and Thunderbolts? She proved why. I want more time with her person. She's a really cool. She had a cool fight with Blade Knight and Marvel Zombies. That was awesome, yeah. Yeah, it was really cool. So Ghost is cool. We got Falcon with a slightly new looking suit there.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I assume we're going to have that moving and grooving. We got Sentry looking very Sentry, but that also means he does come back as Century, not just Bob, which we all assume, but it's cool to see. And then Valeria or Franklin with a Bob? I don't believe it's Valeria because Valeria would be a little too much of a cell.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Think about it, man. They've got to tell all this story. Yeah. Like, this is an exciting image of all these characters, but they got to tell this story of everyone. and it would be way too convoluted if you bring in Valeria
Starting point is 00:29:12 So Valeria for you guys who don't know is Reed and Sue's second child God daughter of Doom becomes a very significant character where Doom and her really get along throughout the many years she's around so it would be cool to get her but I think that would be further on
Starting point is 00:29:29 into the saga Fantastic Four Second Steps Baby That's going to be a kid taking second steps Yeah I mean I am very excited by this image. I do think it was officially unofficially released and I'm very intrigued
Starting point is 00:29:42 by the one person that's covered because that is, it seems very like, why? Maybe it's Magneto with a more accurate outfit. It's above Xavier. Magneto is another case. Didn't Michael Fossbender at the end of X-Men first class get a comic accurate outfit and he never rocked again? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:59 So the X-Men movies have had a weird thing. Here it is. There's even that deleted scene in the Wolverine with the mask. Yeah. And they never used. Yeah, he opens the brown suit. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why they were always like, we're going to get them there.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And then the next movie, they're like, nah, they didn't get there. We got to have them have that hard again. Screw that. I maintain the Brian Singer movies are great mutant movies. I'm very excited for X-Men movies. I watched a fantastic video that really broke down how it was a, the movies, how X-Men is usually used as a metaphor for dealing with like segregation and racism or an allegory for that.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And they broke down how the X-Men movies, specifically the first two, are more of an allegory for gay community struggles. It makes a lot of sense. Ryan Singer and Ian McKellen and like the timing of it. Yeah. Like it's crazy how backwards we were, I mean, we're regressing, but how much more backwards we were in 2000. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:50 So like that was a much bigger issue and it was much more of a faux pa, even 25 years ago. And it's wild to think about it because the movies clearly are. It's not some YouTube video doing some essay. Right. The background information provided. You're like, oh, this 100% is. That was the intention.
Starting point is 00:31:05 but back then now when directors and writers do press they will say yeah we were working on this and it's an allegory for this and everyone throws their hands up in the air and is pissed off at the world for being woke or whatever
Starting point is 00:31:18 and back then they were already doing it yeah they just didn't make it part of their press store yeah they're not cramming that stuff down our throats by saying it out of that sometimes I am of the mind though where I kind of do need someone to say something to me because I didn't I actually didn't pick up on that you were 12 or whatever
Starting point is 00:31:34 yeah I was like Like, shiny, cool. Yeah, I'm not going to blame. It's funny when the mom asked pyro to not be a mutant. Yeah. Can you just knock? That is totally what they say. And all the Iceman stuff is, I mean, they made Iceman gay in the comics after those movies.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Yeah. Iceman was never a gay character. And then they retroactively made him one. Yeah. So, like, I think that's very conscious. Anyway, uh, what character on here got you the most excited? Please leave your thoughts down below. While we're on Marvel before we go into the spoiler stuff for people.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Eastmaker and everything. Let's talk about Spider-Man, Brad New Day. Tombstone. Yes. Tombstone casting. Spider-verse guy. Do you think there's something specifically about having the Spider-Verse guy? Because this guy was originally going to be Tombstone, I believe, in the El Morte movie?
Starting point is 00:32:21 How do you pronounce that? El-Morte? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He was going to be in there. He was then in Spider-Verse as Tombstone. He seems like perfect casting. I think there's two things here.
Starting point is 00:32:34 one he's perfect yeah but two i do think beyond the spider verse is going to bring in live action yeah and i think that's a great way to do it by brand new day having the actor there did you ever see black lightning the show yeah yeah yeah yeah he was the main villain in the first season oh yeah he's very different he had like a bunch of orange his beard looked oranger than the image yeah yeah yeah he's great he had so much presence and i think he's perfect casting for tombstone yeah makes sense why he has been so associated with him it's weird because tombstone is more like Like, if you know Spider-Man, you might know Tombstone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:07 He's not as prolific as anyone else that's been around, like Green Goblin and Doc Ock and all that. The last five years, though. But Tombstone has been getting a lot more attention, and it's kind of cool for an actor to have this level of association for this amount of time. Yeah. It's almost like Jason Momoa's Lobo and a right. Where it's like, well, yeah, guess cast him. Like, I don't feel like that was an audition for this. It was like, all right.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Do you think he'll be the main villain? I think there'll be a mob storyline That's like the A plot that he'll lead I think there'll be maybe like a big You know overarching villain we don't spend a lot of time with That's like a trilogy villain But I think he'll be the thing that you know Maybe people thought Mr. Negative might be
Starting point is 00:33:46 I think Mr. Negative might be involved But I think Tombstone will be the mob big Yeah But I'm so excited for this dude Because I've heard only great things When I was an actor I love his performance and voice work And yeah now that I think about it
Starting point is 00:33:57 I liked him in Black Lightning a lot But I think it's really exciting that Tombstone is the same voice actor because that does make me think my Beyond the Spider-Verse theories are all starting to happen because this comes out like next year.
Starting point is 00:34:09 You should think we'll get a Miles that appears? Not in this one. Okay. I think Secret Wars. Okay. I know they keep saying like Kevin Faggy's been like, well, you can't have my own Sony said.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Okay. Like I think it'd be too incredible to pass. Like I feel like that's something you fight for. And I hope that we get it proper. I think Secret Orders is a great place for the black suit to be introduced.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I think that Miles Morales is a great character that Sony could have on their own. So maybe that's why it won't pop up in a Marvel movie. That'd be my only hesitation.
Starting point is 00:34:45 But I do think brand new day is going to have too much going on unless it's a post-credit scene but then you're starting the next movie with him. Like it feels, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I think you've got to kill Peter Parker. I feel like Peter Parker has to be at an age and at least the presence that feels like he's older. He's got to be a mentor. And Tom Holland has a consistently young-looking face.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I think it'd be good for the trilogy to end with him mentoring Miles and then... Yeah, and I think Tom Holland does eventually wish to depart. Yeah. Yeah. I think he just wants to get married. I think he was like, sitting his house. Like, I just feel like he doesn't like, I like, I like seeing him so happy, promoting his beer, promoting all his other stuff. I feel like that's who he wants to be after this.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah. Not going to lie, that audio glitch really took the wind out of you for something. Come on, Greg. It's just like overwhelmed me. I was the one that. had to do it all over. I know. There's been so many moving pieces and it's like damn, I really try, whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I don't want to. Come back. Burden here. But yeah, my mind's started, my brain started getting flooded. And I'm like, oh, it's slowly. We're taking the live over again. We're starting from scratch. Let's just end the live. Let's do a pre-recorded one. Let's start now. We'll just air it.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I mean, we can release the audio from that stretch. Release the audio. I do have it recorded. Oh, that's so funny. I mean, redundantly. Just in case. Well, the other one was probably better. because it was all off the dough. Hey, a little fact check.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Morte is the word for death, but El Merto is the Marvel character. So, okay, my bad. Well, it was our bad. I don't speak Spanish. Actually, don't, so I didn't know. Either one of those is correct or incorrect. So, yeah, they also announced,
Starting point is 00:36:20 did they confirm who, what's your name is? No, I got that wrong. Oh, good. Because I didn't love that. Because I got faked out. There's apparently on X. Oh my God, I just called it X.
Starting point is 00:36:34 You did. That's the first time I've heard it out loud. I said it. I've converted. Gregg's turning. I'm turning. He's drifting right. My brain is flooding.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Mr. CEO runs a company. On X, formerly known as Twitter. Oh, it's even worse, the full government name. There's a parody discussing film account. Oh, disbusting film? It's called Discussing. Oh. There's no G.
Starting point is 00:36:59 So I thought it was real because I take the, so easy to put a fake account. And so, yeah, there's this account. It said that she's playing dagger, say D-Sync. Yeah. And I really believe it. It says like variety report, but then I clicked a variety article. It wasn't that at all. I was like, shit. I totally felt this. You got grandma on Facebook, dude. I told they did. Yeah, I got catfish. Yeah. No, that's not it. There is this crazy rumor going around. I truly, I'm only bringing this up because I'm like, there's no way in hell this is a real thing. Like, I really don't believe it. And I fully believe this is a rumor. I'm really curious to see what you would think even if a slither of this
Starting point is 00:37:38 is true. It just wouldn't make any sense story-wise to me for so much of Peter Parker. There's this crazy rumor going around that the Hulk accidentally killed Peter's parents in the Battle of New York. And that's creating a conflict for Peter because he learns this and that maybe he might want to help Spunisher take him down, I feel like if this was a piece of established information, it would have got him brought up at some random point. In the comics of Wolverine, it was awful. Did they?
Starting point is 00:38:12 They tried to make Wolverine the assassin of... So in continuity, as Peter Parker's family had to get more important over the six years of his lore, they made May and Peter Parker, like, seen... They're like spies. Shield agents. Yeah. And so in the current run that just ended of Spider-Man Wolverine
Starting point is 00:38:28 by Carrie Andrews, Wolverine, while he was with weapon X, was brainwashed into killing his parents. And, like, the whole run is them being like, I hate you. And Spider-Man beat the Bobby's like, but I can't kill you. And then a little bit more footage will come out and be like, maybe it's not true. And then Peter Parker's sister, which is a dumb character, like, why to Peter Parker's sister comes in and she's like an assassin. She, like tries to kill Wolverine. And Spider-man's like, no, he can't kill him, but he killed our parents. It's dumb, Greg.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I'm not going to lie, dude. The way you said that made me go, I want to read this. I failed. This guy's trying to tell me this sounds awful. It's so bad. And I'm going, I don't know. This sounds like an exciting read, actually. I wouldn't take it as canon.
Starting point is 00:39:10 On shelves right now. Is this idea that this is a new canon for Spider-Man? It wraps up in a way that is comfortable as an else world. Yeah, this sounds like a complete else world. It's weird as hell. The art's great. Carey Andrews is a great artist. It's very stylized, very manga-inspired.
Starting point is 00:39:23 But you don't like this story? That story sounds so fun to me. Spider-Man Wolverine, 1-3-5 on Shire. shelves now. I gladly accept that way more than Hulk in New York. Than random Mark Ruffalo Hulk in New York accidentally killing
Starting point is 00:39:37 the parents ah, no, I just don't buy it. Yeah, I don't love it. I hope not. That wouldn't I think that has to get brought up at that would have had to have gotten brought up. He killed a lot of people though. He keeps wanting to be an Avenger. One of the main Avengers
Starting point is 00:39:54 is the fucking Hulk. But he wouldn't have known all the bodies he killed a lot of people. He did. He didn't go check it's a possibility he did of course it could be a possibility yeah i don't like that but i don't i'm not defending that's the case i don't think i think that would have complete if you can't just make that shit up for spider man brand new day and then go back and watch the other ones be like it's kind of weird this guy really wants to be an adventure one of those bodies this guy would be more he would be more zimo like then yeah if if he knew that a hulk killed his family and now i realize i'm mad at you yeah like i don't think
Starting point is 00:40:25 that would be late information he learns no unless it was like he thought that Chitari were responsible for their deaths. I guess we haven't talked about how his parents died, but that'd be dumb. We don't even talk about Uncle Ben either. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I don't like this. I don't like it at all. I think it's a silly, stupid rumor. Like when I heard Punisher was going to be in it as a rumor, that sounded completely fathomable. When I heard Hulk was going to be in it as a rumor, that sounded completely fathomable.
Starting point is 00:40:55 This, no, that's silly. Yeah, not buying that. That's stupid. And the rest sounds so good. It doesn't, it's not like the movie doesn't sound great, and they're adding another dumb thing to, like, this thing seems to be perfect. Yeah. I don't think that fits this world.
Starting point is 00:41:08 That's, like, that's the issue Spider-Man 3 ran into. Right. Actually, it wasn't this guy who killed your uncle. It was this guy who killed your uncle. Yeah. And like the parents coming back from the grave and Amazing Spider-Man, too. Like, what? No, leave the parents out of this.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Anyway, let him be an orphan. Spider-Man brand-new day. Do you think the Hulk is a murderer? He is, but not of the. the parents of your comment below there was there someone else that got confirmed i feel like i wrote down a note um of who else is in uh the the villains of spider man was there another villain confirmed there's from a leaker who i know you're not a big fan of who put out today something oh then that's not the thing i was thinking of i i just read my note it's a dagger cast and that
Starting point is 00:41:55 was off you yeah that was that leaker yeah correct alp What's funny is, we were in a, we went to see one battle after another at an IMAX screening. Everyone is quiet as shit. Coy and I and Brandon Davis in a conversation. Why do people get so wide? Our volume is taking over the entire quiet room full of people. Because there's no previews, there's no music. It's just us three talking about how I bring this up.
Starting point is 00:42:23 And Coy's like, why do they keep making redheads, the blonde characters? He's, like, complaining about this. We're so loud in the theater. And there's, like, 50 people who are probably like, oh, wow, it was 86 playing deck. Now it's everywhere because it's all pressed in that room. Like, we, that was the exact room to make a rumor reel in it. Everyone was just so tech. We were the only ones talking.
Starting point is 00:42:42 I was like, I don't like that idea very much. Oh, that's funny. At a Disney. No, no, I said it was Warner Brothers. Okay. One battle after another is definitely my top three. Oh, it's my top three as well. I think it's my number two.
Starting point is 00:42:55 What's your number one? Superman's probably like by five I just watched Superman four times I've watched a movie four times in like a decade because of the quantity amount that you've watched that you would no because I wanted to see it every time
Starting point is 00:43:07 like it means I like it enough that I kept being like I want more of this food I like it by volume eight hours means volume I like it most no I said every time I was excited to watch it and I haven't felt like that about a movie in a long time I don't rewatch movies a lot
Starting point is 00:43:22 even comedies so like the fact that I've seen it four times in a year is crazy Comedy is the least I rewatch. Yeah, I don't usually find... Things stop being funny after. You're like, okay, I know the joke. But a lot of people are like, what's your comfort movie? Then it's like Anchorman or something.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And I wish I had that. When I was 15, I watched Anchorman all the time. Oh, yeah, that was like our culture. I was like, millennial culture was quoting Anchor Banks. We didn't have the internet yet. Yeah. All my Anchorman was the shit. Let me memorize Anchorman, so I have a personality.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Back when you were confined to your DVD collection. Yeah. And that's how you developed, like, what's your sense of humor? Quoting Anchorman. Yeah. But I find that most people will have comedies on repeat. And I don't. And like Superman, I was surprised I wanted to watch it as many times as I did.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I think in my top 10 for sure, in terms of new releases, Eddington is my number one. I know that is, I'm probably the only one all the year who will say that. I can also acknowledge that it is not like, there's like flaws in the way it's executed, like pacing wise, editing wise or some weird shit. But man, it did strike a chord with me. um like i think one battle after another just shot better and everything like there's so much other things that i'm like no this movie definitely did a lot of things better like i wouldn't be able to win a movie fights argument with anything other than it just really stuck with me man yeah uh edington uh sinners weapons uh one battle after another superman and i would put fantastic four in my top
Starting point is 00:44:47 oh it's my 10 at four is in my 10 uh i'm gonna go uh superman one battle after another. There's Thunderbolts this year? Yeah. Thunderbolts. That's in my 10 as well. I love Thunderbolts was last year for some reason. Thunderbolts I like more than fantastic.
Starting point is 00:45:04 It kicked off the summer. Oh my God. I totally forgot about that. Yeah. Was it like May? You know, Novakane still in my top five. I love Nova Kane. Ballerina's at my top 10.
Starting point is 00:45:15 I loved ballerina. Fantastic four Thunderbolts. Centers. 28 years? 28 years 100% higher than a lot of these. 28 years is probably my top five. okay um how to train your dragon oh really i got a lot out of that i loved how to train your dragon uh what else came out this year i feel like i have nine i need a 10 captain america
Starting point is 00:45:38 oh yeah brave new world new world order i know what you did last summer 20 25 oh god it was fun but never never karate kid legends uh haven't seen it a good movie minecraft movie uh i haven't seen it naked gun naked gun naked gun would be my top 10 Naked gun would definitely be a top 10. Oh, you know, my weird sleeper? I loved materialists so much. I've been meaning to. I loved materialists. Rented on Prime Video. Naked guns in my top 10 somewhere. But materialists, I liked so much that I canceled my night plans so Ania and I could go out and have like a date night to talk. And it was a good talk. Like, it wasn't like I'll be able to talk. But it inspired so much relationship concepts and like it enhanced
Starting point is 00:46:17 our wedding and our marriage. Like, it's so good. And it's so well thought out, so well-paced. subverts expectations what it needs to, but it also follows the tropes when you want it to. Like, it does just enough that you're like, oh, tickled. It's so good. Pedro Pascal, Chris Abbottesbury. And it's not a rom-com as advertised. It's a rom-drom.
Starting point is 00:46:35 And it's like really good. There's some comedy, but like it's so good. So yeah, material is in my 10. I want to watch it. Yeah, naked guns in there too. Yeah, good year. Not a great year, but a good year so far. What's your favorite movie of the year?
Starting point is 00:46:47 Chat. Comment below. And if you're on playback, comment it randomly. Our last live stream of the year we should do like our december ranking yeah my headphones on finally all right oh man so many people shout now movies in the chat yeah engagement okay are there anything we missed now if you have egregious no now if you haven't seen peacemaker season two if you haven't seen that the latest episode we're going to go into spoilers now okay so we gave you an hour we're going to count down from 10
Starting point is 00:47:15 to let you know 10 9 8 7 6 5 Five, four, three, two, one. Peacemaker, season two, episode six, had some big reveals in there. I forgot they did Earth X in the Aeroverse. Yeah. The comments reminded me of that. It wasn't like this. The CW didn't dabble this deeply in the Nazi America.
Starting point is 00:47:47 The CW felt like Voldemort taking over the world or something. You know, it didn't have the impact of, oh, this is so grimy and ugly and feels real. Yeah. And I was surprised. I wasn't surprised that that was the turn because there were a lot of clues and a lot of, too many, way too many people were theorizing it for me to miss the theory. So that part of it, I don't know if this world will carry over into the future of the DC universe. but what I love is the back-to-back here of the DC universe doing this.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Yeah. Peacemaker Season 2 has been up and down for a lot of people. The ratings haven't been that high. I've seen a lot of expressed disappointment with people feeling like it's not really leaving much of an impact. Numbers skyrocketed with this one episode. It really did. It just zoomed up. And it finally went trending on X, formerly known as Twitter. it finally went trending and i love that they got lex luther to be in here immediately that some people are like yeah i wasn't surprised it said bell reef it's not common for the comic book you can please correct me if i'm wrong it is it is not common for the comic book movie universes to immediately have some television show follow up with one of their major characters just a couple months later and now i'm starting to see this was the first time the, the emotion, I didn't even express this in our
Starting point is 00:49:22 review, where I felt universe, you know, I did before, I'm feeling, yeah, okay, we got a Superman movie and we got a peacemaker show. Yes, they are connected, but I don't feel the universal sense. And this was the first time it gave me that feeling of watching, oh, we're seeing the universe really come together because clearly this is going to feel. read right in The Man of Tomorrow what they're setting up with Lex Luther and the fact that they were, the fact that they took Lex from a very
Starting point is 00:49:54 PG-13, super heroic movie then thrusted him into the dialogue of the R-rated show immediately after. It's awesome to me. That's awesome. Honestly, his performance, I think, is really good in that one scene. The standout to me in the whole episode
Starting point is 00:50:15 is Jennifer Holland. she's so good this season she was she's phenomenal this whole season but even in the episode with the reveal even in the episode with lex luther i i kept going back to that one scene in the interrogation room with the two of them i think it's just so beautifully active between the two of them and her performance there is so strong but i mean you can look at the bigger shit you know with the macro yeah of it all i'm getting like that clear sense of variety and and understanding all the shit james guns been putting out there of what happens and you you plop them into this world and you get a different tone with them. And it worked. Lex completely works in Superman and he completely works in the peacemaker world as well. The adaptability of it. Yeah. The fluidity like water was awesome to me. How are you feeling about the way this is all unfolding? It makes me so much more excited for the DCU and I was already, I mean, Superman's my number one movie the year. I was already excited for this universe. but as soon as you see Lex swear and fit this world,
Starting point is 00:51:17 the griminess, the different conversation he has with the same character he had in Superman. Like he has conversation with the flag, but it's in a setting of like a boardroom. He's in control. He's in power. Once he's in peacemaker, he's in prison. He's broken.
Starting point is 00:51:28 He's still, you know, healing from crypto. I love that. All of that is still the character, but when you read a Batman comic, it's a different tone there, Justice League comic. We're getting proof of that here immediately. And like you said, two months later, one of the leads of a movie on a show,
Starting point is 00:51:46 that shows confidence. It also shows, you mentioned that episode six, all the viewership spiked. I hope that also shows confidence in James Gunn getting to do things his way and, like, you know, slower burn first five episodes,
Starting point is 00:51:57 crazy and it worked. Yeah. Like, I guarantee people are going back and watching one through five. It's the franchise thing. Like, the franchise math on a movie
Starting point is 00:52:04 is different than a single movie. We talked about Mission Impossible, I think it was, where, you know, the seventh installment of Mission Impossible is going to make one through six go up on rewatches.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Yeah. So your movie math is different on an eighth installment. It has to make plenty of money, but it does get buoyed by the other ones. I hope that's the same with TV where it's like,
Starting point is 00:52:22 hey, this is the episode that popped. People are going back to see how we got here because that means you can do bolder things in shows. And that, to me, is a good sign for the future of the DCU with lanterns
Starting point is 00:52:31 with whatever shows after that. It shows people do show up when it's a big event. And I think that's the power of weekly TV. I'm so sick at the binge model. It isn't effective. So this wouldn't have been interesting
Starting point is 00:52:42 if it wasn't six weeks in. What I also... It would have been interesting, but it would have been that big. To add to everything you're saying, it's a bold move to do the Earth-X-Nazi thing in a world where neo-Nazism has been in the news quite prevailantly or at least a conversation
Starting point is 00:53:01 and it's a big debate in the world right now and it's often in our medium to put it in your immediate follow-up for a television show. to immediately follow that up with peace, to immediately do Superman, this lighthearted thing and to go into something that will be this bold
Starting point is 00:53:19 with its next step. Not just, oh, it's R-rated because of the irreverent humor and all those things. Yeah, sure, that's easy to go to. Okay, cool. It's violent. It's a little sexual.
Starting point is 00:53:33 To do a subject matter. Mm-hmm. And really like the horror of that be felt. Like that was a scary-ass moment for adabio at the end. Yeah. To be seeing, I keep seeing adibio. Is that right? It's abadio.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Adabio. It is ad-d-bio? D first, B, second. What does call her, abs? Ads. He does say ads. I can see, I've been hearing abs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:57 The B and the D sound similar sometimes. Aadabio. Yeah. But with adabio, that moment is like a terrifying scenario. Yeah. To witness. And then it has your mind kind of pondering. what else is going on in this world
Starting point is 00:54:10 of a concentration camp? What the hell's going on here? I think it's a really cool swing to do that instantaneously when everyone is on the lookout for what is the universe that's unfolding and to see it tonality-wise having the shift.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I really like the blind spotting of it. I really like the fact that this universe we've seen five times and yeah, some people picked it up, but it took time to notice that it's all white folk and how much of it. of our media is just white people how much of our media we're used to that yeah so i think it's a
Starting point is 00:54:42 really interesting way to have that twist be effective and make people look at themselves and go like wait a second like i you know i i go to certain neighborhoods and i notice a population and i go oh i bet the food's good here or not and i feel like oh that's a weird thought why should i feel bad about that and this is like the extreme version of that is like why didn't i notice sooner right away yeah you know what i mean so like that's that's an interesting tell of uh of our own blind spots in our own culture. Well, I love how they took the time with the reveal where they first presented as this utopia, this beautiful world. But if you know, multiversal stories, obviously there's something wrong here, right? And you're on the lookout for it. My first indication was
Starting point is 00:55:25 when they had the Sons of Liberty show up. Yeah. My first thought was, because I'm not that, I'm not familiar, honestly, with the D.C. version of Sons of Liberty. They're only in like seven comics. They're very small. They are. Okay. I'm not familiar with them. But the fact that they were called Sons of Liberty and that Chris wasn't familiar with this world, immediately told me, I wonder if these guys are actually all right. Like, there's some type of revolutionists, because we don't exactly know what they're fighting for, and maybe Chris is killing the wrong people. And in our universe, we have that bias, too, because I know when I hear Sons of Liberty,
Starting point is 00:55:56 I'm like, I don't know if I'd like those people. Yeah, yeah. Well, this world is, at least the city they're in, brimming with just prejudice as the norm here. and the thing that they view as right. And that's the way how a lot of racist people actually operate. They seem normal. They can seem pleasant. They're not just they're saying racist words all the time.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Right, right, right. Like they're just being people and interacting. And then you find out, oh, there's a dark side to them that is really ugly and vile and bad. And that's what's so tricky about the internet is like the things that are your deepest impulse to type, that's the stuff you put out there. and I guarantee at least half the people that have threatened us or said awful stuff, we'd like other parts of them, but we see this part of them
Starting point is 00:56:42 because that's the thing they're triggered by. We got like a, in our one battle after another, someone commented like, oh, these anti-white geneticists, good thing, things are changing. I got plenty of rope and there's a lot of flagpoles out in L.A. to hang them from or something like that. And I was like, it's a really boring death threat.
Starting point is 00:57:00 But I also wonder what that person would be like walking around, would I clock them as someone who will literally be like, like, I want to hang these boys talking about this movie. And it made me realize, like, that's someone I could talk to in life and never know they're a piece of garbage. Exactly. And that is what this does so well. That is 99% of comments. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:18 And that's the cool part of the James Gunn's side, where Superman being more in the tone that that is in, they just go a little bit more over literal monkey bots. Right. Right. And this exposes it on the other side of, yeah, you know, those like sick, twisted people. and the ones who are not in front of the media, the ones who are just in our comment boxes who say this shit, 99% of the time,
Starting point is 00:57:42 they're not going to show this side of them. They're probably working at your FedEx. They're doing your accounting. They're driving your bus. These people are out there. They're amongst us. Yeah. And that's what's scary to me,
Starting point is 00:57:52 is how effective this was at showing that, like, scrolls. Yeah. Well, also still being very comic book. Yeah. You know, like he did it in that way. And if you watch Superman, then you watch Peacemakes. Of course there's similarities between James Gunn, whimsies, and tones that naturally come through because it's his voice.
Starting point is 00:58:14 I think it's impossible, though. I think it's very objective to say he definitely has versatility. And people often say all his shit is just the same. I think Superman Guardians are so different. And peacemakers are even more different than that. I think they're very different. I think the suicide squad and Superman, Again, of course, there's going to be some similarities that show up in tonality, sometimes in the humor.
Starting point is 00:58:42 However, this does not feel like Superman, you know? It doesn't feel like Superman. I think, like, I've probably watched Superman, I know I've watched Superman four times, but I've probably watched Scooby-Doo like 20 times in my life. Like, Scooby-Doo is one of my favorite family movies to watch with my family. I could not mark so many parallels that it would be boring if James Gunn wrote the same. Some writers are so similar. I couldn't rewatch their movies because I had just like, why don't I watch their new thing?
Starting point is 00:59:09 I think dude's super versatile. And I think that's why him being the overseer of this universe is so exciting. Because he's not writing everything. He's not directing everything. But his vision is going to be clear, I think, in this shared universe. It did dawn on me, though, weirdly of something that hasn't been clicking on me this particular season. Because of that scene that was so strong with Jennifer Holland and John Cena, it highlighted to me
Starting point is 00:59:34 something that I do feel is missing that season one provided more of which is just damn good scene work just damn good scenes and I feel like that's really the thing that's being at a cost with having these short-ass runtimes actually. I agree.
Starting point is 00:59:53 And I wish that was more there. Yeah. Because that's the stuff that I think is what we we walk away not with information we walk away with emotion sometimes we do these movies we're watching for a second time or third time that we haven't seen in years and we don't remember plot details we don't even remember like how it ends or something right but we remember how it made us feel and we'll be surprised by the change or the same emotion yes and like that's so important feeling is everything it's why we watch stuff and i think that's what we need more of and and if we're
Starting point is 01:00:28 going to do the shows like it's cool to get the world and everything but yeah i keep emphasizing this one scene because that is what will make everyone stick around or even though like the reveal is very effective it's haunting yeah when with at a bio there like that's a moment i'm never going to forget having ever seen like i'm good that's something that will stay in my memory i'll never forget that horror of that that line of dialogue of like one of them got out like that was like oh like that was such a violent simple line of dialogue like it's such an evil phrase yes yes and it was so effective yeah i'll remember that i'll remember the the dialogue coming out and being like oh god and the flip over the flag we should probably talk about john do we have a superchats by the way on that oh we got a bunch
Starting point is 01:01:13 do we really okay yeah and you'll be happy to know actually that our peak concurrence have only been growing yeah oh that's great to hear so yeah we were not torpedoed by sound errors Greg's back in the game Thank you. I actually had forgotten about that, and now I'm reminded, and I'm back in the past. Greg's out of the game! Now, but more people are watching and excited now. Red Pit, John Bernthal. We've talked about, you know, like that we're talking about the themes and all the bigger picture stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I think we deserve it to the audience now to discuss, oh, the tie-in to Man of Tomorrow. Oh, yes. I'm not familiar with this prison. There's not a special prison or some shit, right? Bell Reeve? No, Belle Reeve and then there's Van Cole is where he's taken to. I think that's the name of it. And Van Cole and I looked it up and it apparently it's kind of like a, it's appeared in some Superman comics, but it's not a massive prison. The name triggers no bells for me. So I'm either, I'm either the worst or it is a very, you know, a named place. Just another named prison. Yeah. Which there are. It's Arkham and Bell Reef. Those are the prolific prisons. Yeah. And there's plenty of other that are mentioned throughout the comics been around for 80 years. But yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:24 that one off the dome. This is a really weird turn that I think it's taking, you know, because Rick Flagg, I really fucking wish, though, that more of, okay, really quick, sorry, I know I'm like zigzagging here. Let me finish one thought. Is the character that Lex is talking about, is that Dr. Phosphorus? I think it's Phosphorus and Killer Croc.
Starting point is 01:02:49 What is it? What's the exact line without the, without? A bear-sized man with dragon skin. Cros. Oh, you think they're talking about Crock? A bear-sized man, but dragon's skin sounds like a killer. Oh, wait. The Crock does already exist.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Yeah. I forgot Crock is in the universe. It won an Academy Award. Yeah. You guys remember that? It's insane. It really did. Yeah, Academy Award winner, Killer Crock.
Starting point is 01:03:15 And then the other one was glowing eye and language we shouldn't say for demonetization. I think that's Dr. Phosphorus. Huh. So that's some acknowledgement of Creature Commandos. And Frank Frollo existing. Do you think that a story like this opens up a conversation? This is one thing I was sort of theorizing about. Do you think it opens up a conversation with how mutants are used as an allegory
Starting point is 01:03:43 oftentimes for like things we were talking about, homophobia, racism? With Rick Flagg, having had his experience with metahumans in Creature Commandos. and then being with Lex where he's defending the rights for metahumans and now striking this deal which will eventually lead him to this other world is there some type of allegory they're going to draw between metahumans and prejudicey? Oh, I think so.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I mean, we saw it a lot in Superman. They made it really clear like, you know, this guy, we don't know what kind of powers he has. These, you know, aliens are invading and he's just trying to take over that to me felt like xenophobia and prejudice. It's kind of crazy that they're doing this before Marvel. I mean, Marvel did it a little with Miss Marvel,
Starting point is 01:04:32 but it was pretty kid-friendly. And therefore felt soft, and that show should be for kids. Like, I'm not saying that needed to go harder. It is unfortunate we haven't had anything since. Because there hasn't been an opportunity since. They needed to go hard in the paint. And I'm excited that Jake Schreier is going to be the one shepherding it
Starting point is 01:04:49 because he went very hard on things in Thunderbolts, which makes me think when Marvel does address it, with X-Men. It will be intense, but they are beating Marvel to it. At the same time, this is that dialogue that we have about how one can propel the other. 100%. I think this is going to only make X-Men more, I think X-Men can go harder. Yeah, exactly. I think if they're like, someone's already running, they can sprint, they can take the baton. I think D.C. doing well is only going to make Marvel better as long as they don't keep Downey-Duming. Yeah. Well, we'll find out to the... It can make them better.
Starting point is 01:05:21 It can. It can. I have hopes. for Downey. I have hopes for Downey the actor. I have hopes for Doom the character. I do not have hopes for my faith in them making artistic based decisions. Yeah, more than likely you're right about. And I want to love it. I really do. I think Downey Jr. is one of our great actors. He literally, you know those like Facebook things where it's like, what, three characters in movies? Do you feel like you're like? I always say Harry from Kiss Kiss Kiss, Kiss, Bing, Bang. That is a character I identify with so much because I identify with Downey in so many ways. I'm Iron Man. more than cap in world view a lot of times.
Starting point is 01:05:57 But this decision feels like Downey Jr. wanted to be associated with something other than Iron Man and it gave him an opportunity to flex his acting muscles. I don't even think it's about the money. I think money's great. I think, you know, getting a... There's only so much money he needs. Yeah, like, you can get another island.
Starting point is 01:06:12 But like, I think it's about the acting challenge. I respect and adore that. What I don't love is that it's at the cost of how we perceive doom. There's no way we can perceive doom in any other way than like, how's Downey going to do? I don't want to be thinking that at all. That's why it feels
Starting point is 01:06:27 like a financial decision. And so as long as Marvel can get back on their feet and really start making money again, I think they'll go back to making art-based decisions. I think Kevin Feige loves X-Men more than anything.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I think he's not going to make financial-based decisions with X-Men. I think they're too important to him. I think as long as they make some money with Avengers, they can go back to being bold. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:46 I do worry about the Avengers being the cost of that boldness. Well, I think Kevin Feigy is an individual who will be smart about taking the lessons from D.C. A lot of studios take the wrong lessons. A lot of studios go,
Starting point is 01:06:59 let's just do exactly that, but faster. Fagie, on the other hand, he'll be able to, like what we're talking about with pushing the envelope with these allegories and how much more raw can you get about how it's going to go down. And if he's seen how well that's going with, you know, Peacemaker,
Starting point is 01:07:20 he could probably look at that with X-Men and go, what is our version that we could do of this. Not copy and paste, but this will allow us to have that door. Yeah. There's a feeding nature here. Yeah, what works, what doesn't, what did audiences respond to? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:34 What a great way to test it out. Yeah, you can learn from your friends and competitors. Yeah, I don't think enemy. I think competitor, and I think that's healthy. Yeah. You know, like when things go on sale because there's a new company in town. Like, I want things to thrive with competition. Okay, so with Matt, oh, sorry, John, you want to say something?
Starting point is 01:07:51 I was just going to say that's when capitalism. actually works exactly when there's a free market that's actually functional yeah where people were challenging each other to get better capitalism used to be perceived as a very good thing it did and then it broke okay so how do you think this is going to tie into man of tomorrow then i mean it feels to me like lex is in a position of bargaining yeah i was going to say negotiating and and so that's only going to lead towards where i think man of tomorrow goes where there's some sort of like united front we've already seen him in prison he's like i'll help you exactly like there's there's already access to Lex.
Starting point is 01:08:23 We've seen him in prison. I feel like that's going to be the opening of whatever man of tomorrow is and there's going to be a threat I think Braniac that is so above Superman's intellect that he relies on Lex.
Starting point is 01:08:35 And I think that's really cool that we're setting up like he's already an asset. Like Lex is already an essential thing they need and it's been two months. Yeah. Like that's exciting for what Lex will be like machinations.
Starting point is 01:08:46 How would you describe Brainiac's powers in a very efficient way? Because it depends on the version looking at but he's not he's not a superhuman and he's mainly the thing with brainiac oh i'm asking that question is he's more of an intelligence he's an intelligence it's almost like high evolutionary without any physical form being required emotional detachment yeah you need he he's a he studies things he wants perfection and so it's chipping away at the excess to cause this perfection and to um get something to be the ultimate evolution
Starting point is 01:09:22 of something. And that's all he cares about. There's no empathy. There's no thought. It's just striving for that. That's why I love the image he put on the cover of the script. Yeah. It's a great indicator that it's Brainiac because of the exposed brain and it's fun for audiences who we're finally going to get Brainiac
Starting point is 01:09:38 but for a villain like that who is all about observation and study collecting information. With having this exposed you know, like x-ray looking vision of what's underneath a human being
Starting point is 01:09:53 and then you're going to take two different types of humans and have them go together the good and the bad the yin and the yang and I think this will be more psychological than people are probably realizing because I think when we're going into this
Starting point is 01:10:08 we're going to Superman Lex teaming up they're going to fight a big batty which they're going to do but I feel like showing the brain is a big part of it because I think it'll definitely go to the as you like to use duality of both of these characters I also think it's going to be James Gunn having fun doing a Sorkin thing.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I think there's going to be so much Ted to Tetet. I think there's going to be so much Amy Sherman Palladino. I think there's going to be so much of like, the dialogue gets to be so quippy because you're dealing with hyperintelligence. I think it's going to be so fun to mix it up for a sequel. Because I do think this is going to be a Lex movie more than a Superman movie.
Starting point is 01:10:40 I think the man of tomorrow is Lex. And I think it's going to be therefore a very dialogue-based film. And there's going to be plenty of action. I'm not saying it's going to be like, you know, a sit-down. This isn't going to be like, you know, pondering. It's going to be heady. with action. I'm so excited for that. I think it would be more exciting film. I'm down for whatever he's going to do as opposed to cutting between Superman cuts between the two perspectives of Lex.
Starting point is 01:11:02 I would be more interested in a movie where it's predominantly. Like if you don't really ever go to a scene where it's just Clark or Superman. He's not calling it Superman too, Man of Tomorrow. He's calling it Man of Tomorrow. I think it's a Lex Luthor Man of Tomorrow. Yeah, if you do the whole thing just from his perspective, baller, like the Metz Luther Man of Steel comic. And you can't call Man of Steel. Yeah, it would be pretty cool. I think that's what's coming, man. Yeah, that would be a pretty awesome way to do it. And it's such a bold third, fourth movie.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Yeah. Like, that's crazy. And that shows the confidence in the universe. I really think that's what he's doing. With how well Superman did, he came in under budget, it made its money back and then some and launched a universe. Like, I do something bold. I would be so down if it is only from his POV.
Starting point is 01:11:46 And you cast Nicholas Holt, you give him a movie. Like, this guy can carry a movie. You know, like, I'm not worried about it. I think it's great. he's still there's so some people who a good amount of people who are now really warming up to him i see it a lot with nicholas hul's lex yeah like there's people i can see it constantly if people feeling like there's something off of why he's just not quite landing for them i think that a lot of people it seems like you know even for people who don't like the superman movie a lot of people are like but that cornswet guy's
Starting point is 01:12:14 good you know sure for lex though i am seeing a heart where people feel like there's a of lack of imposition, I guess. Interesting. I don't know what it is. I can't quite put my finger on what's missing for people. I kind of think it, though, too, in an extent that I don't really ever find him particularly, it's one of those things where I watch the movie and I go, he's so good. However, I don't particularly feel like I'm scared of him. Sure.
Starting point is 01:12:50 You know, like there's something. And I think in the comics, I get that vibe. Sure. Okay, that's fair. Like, Lex is an intimidating foe. And, like, Clancy Brown voicing him and stuff, very, like, you know, presence. But the first view, I was like, man, I like this, but I'm not quite connecting. My second view, I connected in a way that I feel like maybe you haven't yet.
Starting point is 01:13:08 But I, my hardest thing was separating from the Rosenbaum performance, because I think that's the best, like, my favorite Lex of all time is Rosenbaum. And then I, man, this isn't even fair. I don't know how I'd parallel this. I got a really cool moment at the premiere where I was talking to Nick and Rosie and like I got to hear them talking about their Lexes and I got to be like oh that's how you see it differently and like that's such a one of one experience that I wouldn't expect anyone to ever be able to get that of so I uniquely saw it again and went but like I'm hoping that the euphoria or the epiphany moment that people can get is from him leading on his own movie and maybe that was how people get intimidated by him like if you're watching it. watching like a silence of the lambs and you get more screen time you get more chances to be intimidated by him you get more opportunity maybe that's what we'll shift people yeah is more exposure to him yeah because that moment was for me a one-of-one it happened in real life but if people get more chances to see him and like because I thought he did great in peacemaker but again I've had that unlock yeah I think this whole generally isn't a dude he's so good I can't think of a bad performance of nicholas he's also so jarringly tall so it's that's also like he doesn't feel tall on camera but in person you're like ah like he's very intense. There might be something to the youth quality of him. He is very youthful.
Starting point is 01:14:25 He feels like, and I don't know, I don't think people usually associate Lex with a youthfulness. That's totally fair. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe there's an earnestness. I was actually going to chime that in, yeah. It's like he doesn't, he still, it feels like two young guys going at each other, not like a
Starting point is 01:14:42 man stature. The Lex Luthor boyish figure is not ever going to be. Yeah, that's fair. Because he got jacked too. Like, you know, he did all the things. But he is, you know, handsomely young. I still think predominantly that people like him a lot. I think majority still. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I haven't really waded into those waters because that was something where I was like, I really liked this enough that I don't want to be sullied by people's negativity. So I haven't seen a lot, but I haven't looked. I don't really look at comments on videos I'm in. What's weird is when I see comments about real rejects or me in videos I'm not in. And when they're on other people's channels. And that's when it's Because you're like, I'm hearing someone talk about me
Starting point is 01:15:24 Well, sometimes they're not even talking about Yeah, and I'm like, why am I being singled out at this comment? And it's so strange Because there's so many channels I'm a fan of I watch so many YouTube channels And I guess that's, the one part of me is going Is this part of the trajectory When you're involved in this space?
Starting point is 01:15:43 Oh, yeah, 100%. Sometimes you're just going to get mentioned And get a threat about you in a comment box when I'm here going I was watching a video about something else my name's not even mentioned here but I barely use TikTok
Starting point is 01:15:54 but I know TikTokers so I get it's that it's like you're in the conversation and yet so you find yourself out there yeah it's weird though I'm like I don't want to look at comments of videos I'm in but I would like to look at comments of videos you know
Starting point is 01:16:06 but yeah we're not meant to be exposed to this many people like it'd be like it'd be like Superman hearing everyone talking about you like it's not normal but it's part of the job anyway I've been having a really good time having this conversation
Starting point is 01:16:17 And John said we got a decent amount of super chats and stuff. And let's make sure we get to them. We're going to make sure we read all these. John, can you do a quick tally of how many we got? I will get overwhelmed if I see it in front of me. But if you hears the number. If I hear the number, I can make an efficient goal here. Okay.
Starting point is 01:16:37 So we got two on the stream labs. Cool. Actually, no, we have three stream labs and just refresh these super chats. Let me count those up real quick. Cool. Thank you guys who have, who have contributed. Thank you. 20. Okay. Cool. Let's get at it, man. So I would say in about, there's 23 questions.
Starting point is 01:17:03 I would say in about 10 minutes, we're going to close the super chats. So if there's any question you want to get in, get in now. Guarantee you have your question read on air. Thank you so much. And let's get into it. What's the first one we got? You said there's three stream labs. Let's complete one goal there. Let's go with the stream labs.
Starting point is 01:17:18 One goal and let's stream it up. All right. Here we go. Stream labs, screen. All right. First one comes from Stephen with a pH. Steven. Strain.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Stephen. All right. Steven says, just wanted your thoughts on Ridley Scott turning down directing Terminator 3 for reported 20 million. Do you think it would have been better or worse with him directing it? Big Love from Big Love. from the UK.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Who is this again? This is Stephen. Thank you, Stephen. Ridley Scott doing Terminator 3. That would be a fascinating trajectory. I would love the swap because alien aliens and Terminator 3. That would have been so cool. That would have been really cool.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Jonathan Moskow, I believe, was the director of Terminator 3. A lot of love has come around for Terminator 3. Admittedly, I like Terminator 3. I've watched it in years. I've never seen it. It's like fun. It is not anywhere near. the
Starting point is 01:18:18 it's weird because Terminator 1 and 2 are our masterpieces yeah and then Terminator 3 is a big step down in terms of quality but there's some really
Starting point is 01:18:31 cool action scenes in there Arnold's fun in it I just remember the casket scene yeah and the finale I remember people be enthusiastic like holy shit like it's actually a really awesome ending
Starting point is 01:18:41 and because some really bad Terminator movies came after it. It gets lumped in. It's so, that it elevated Terminator 3 as a better film. But my biggest problem with Terminator
Starting point is 01:18:57 3 is I think it lacks a distinct vision and a distinct voice. And Ridley Scott would have one. Ridley Scott, especially back then would have one. Yeah. Yeah. Ridley Scott now is like I think Ridley Scott now is 80% Ridley Scott. But he's more of like, no, it's a good
Starting point is 01:19:13 done, you know, I'm trying to cramming as much as I can before I die. I'm a make up history for Napoleon. Don't worry at it. This really seems like how he operates now. He's like, I'm going to just see how much I can get done until I'm dead. I would have been really interested then. I would not be as interested now. I'm excited for the Terminator franchise to come back with James Cameron, which sounds like it is happening.
Starting point is 01:19:31 That's what I want. But if someone else would have handled it, then I think Ridley Scott would have been great. Yeah, he would have been great. Thanks for the question, Stephen. Absolutely. All right. Next up, we got Omar. Hey, Omar.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Thank you. Hey, guys. What's your guys's your guys' favorite Spidey comic? mine is Merry Christmas Uncle Ben Spider-Man Blue and AS Amazing Spider-Man 500 hyped for new spidey content soon
Starting point is 01:19:53 individual issues you scallywag what do you want from me the boy collect Spider-Man Ultimate Spider-Man 13 which is the Mary Jane reveal in the Ultimate Universe issue where there's not a single Spider-Man frame it's just Peter Parker Mary Jane nothing can stop the juggernaut that two-issue run
Starting point is 01:20:08 the death of Gene de Wolf saga the Hobgoblin mystery Oh, man, Tangled Web of Spider-Man, flowers for rhino. It's a flowers for Algernon play on the rhino. What? Dude, it's so good. It, like, combined one of my favorite stories with, like, one of my favorite characters.
Starting point is 01:20:27 And then lastly, let's do a modern one. Nothing's coming to mind modern. I was trying to think of one in the last, like, two, three years. I'm digging Joe Kelly coming back. It's not quite, like, it's heyday, but it's better than it has been. So the last year has been better than the five years preceding it. Spider-Man Life Story, Chip Zedarski, and the current ultimate Spider-Man run. Those are some faves.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Amazing. Amazing. Spider-Man. My answer, I just want to be honest. My answer is going to be very different. And it's funny because you've brought this thing up when you're in school and they bring like the books and you can buy books. What's that called?
Starting point is 01:21:08 Scholastic Fair. Scholastic Fair. Yeah. It's a book fair, but Scholastic sponsored them. So a couple years before Spider-Man 1 came out, there was a Scholastic Fair. And, of course, the only thing I got was a Spider-Man book. And it's essentially a comic book. It's just in the book form or like a child's book.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Yeah, yeah. And it had everything in there, the origin of the radio after spider bite, Uncle Ben dying, him becoming a wrestler. That was, I remember the first time me learning all of this information because I had watched the show when I was a kid. Yeah. But I didn't start from the beginning. and I wasn't a week-to-week viewer because it was so early on a Saturday. And we only had one TV in the house
Starting point is 01:21:50 and we had to share. So we didn't have like Tebow or any of that shit. So I missed a lot of episodes and I never caught the origin. So I read this like three times. It was my introduction and I reread it before I watched Spider-Man in the theaters. And it was the moment,
Starting point is 01:22:07 I'll never forget that association that I had where the thing I read, they're doing it. They're like, oh, he's doing the wrestling thing. Uncle Ben dying, he's trying to get the mind. All the way how it was unfolding, like the book that I read. I've never had that feeling quite like that with any comic book movie since. I don't even have this book anymore. I don't know where it is.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Yeah, I wouldn't even know what's called. I mean, like, yeah, like look up like anthology, Spider-Man origin. Like, there are probably a few hundred versions, but if you're, If you see a cover, it recognized. Yeah, I don't, I don't even know what book that. It's essentially a comic book, but. Is it like a golden book? I think it's like a golden book, yeah, because the text on it is like reading like a kid's book, but, you know, it's essentially like pictures.
Starting point is 01:22:54 That's really fun. Yeah. So I don't know what that is, but that's the one that's stuck for me. That's someone that's always stuck with me. Also, Spider-Man 75, the death of Ben Riley. That was a, that was the first moment I like acknowledge death. Hell yeah. Like, I remember being like, someone can just go.
Starting point is 01:23:08 And it was like so haunting. What a warm embrace. Yeah. I have that issue. It's not this, is it? I'd have to let the cover does not look like it to me. Maybe they might have updated the cover, though. I remember the cover having more of like a purple background or something.
Starting point is 01:23:21 We're going to find this book. Yeah. Comment below if you know. But thanks, Stephen. Who's next? Who's our final stream lab here? All right. Final stream lab comes from Dan V.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Of course. Thank you, Dan V. Every week, man. Thank you, Dan, V. Gotta love Dan on the stream labs. If you could Greenlight, any comic book film you know isn't happening, what would it be? For me, With DC, it's Batman Beyond with Keaton as Bruce.
Starting point is 01:23:43 For Marvel, it's Spider Girl with May Day and Kirsten Dunst said she wanted to return as MJ. Toby also returns. Mr. Miracle is a show, but I want it as a movie. I say that all the time, but like I need it. I want Jake Gyllenhaal as Scott Free. So for DC, Mr. Miracle or Animal Man, I don't know if they could do the twist in Animal Man justice, but that'd be really cool if someone could like matrix blow my mind and then for marvel um marvel has so many things they've done try try you go ahead and i'll come back with my
Starting point is 01:24:24 marble i've i've beaten a dead horse here was saying i want my scarecrow movie the the one that i think they'll never ever do is the batman year one but do it faithfully and never cut to the way how I was talking about Lex's perspective of manna tomorrow. Stay on Jim. Stay on Jim. Not yet, Commissioner. You only meet Bruce through Jim's eyes. Yeah. You only meet Batman through Jim's eyes. So it's a fun for the audience as we know it's fucking the same person. But to keep it solely on that because we have yet to do something like that with Jim Gordon in live action because he makes bad choices. He cheats on his wife. Yeah, with his young newborn at home. Newborn at home. Like it really shows a very flawed man and it's
Starting point is 01:25:10 also Simon Sennestly the most badass he's ever been. Yeah. He gets into fights. He really shows him out of, as a show man's like a fighter. Yeah. I love Jeffrey Wright as him. Gary Oldman is exceptional. That was the first time. You're like, holy shit, that's fucking Jim Gordon.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Yeah. But nothing has captured that. Brian Cranston voiced him in the animated movie. Yeah. And he was perfect voice. He looks for that. And it has the, you know, Frank Miller in her monologue. I would say, do that or yeah I want
Starting point is 01:25:40 you know the fucking Josh Brolin's Batman into Zach Snyder's dark night returns you know what you can do a
Starting point is 01:25:47 faithful adaptation DC High Volume Year 1 it is a word for word adaptation acted out masterple oh well check that it's really
Starting point is 01:25:53 it's a show I host I do the interviews I know what your show is DC High Volume and Batman it's a word for adaptation year one is our first thing is pretty great and then for my other one
Starting point is 01:26:00 I'm not going to do Marvel I'm gonna go saga I want to see saga adapt it I don't know how I don't know who but I want saga saga?
Starting point is 01:26:06 I've never told you about saga the comic oh it's one of my favorite it's a space opera that's uh these two rivaling species uh moonies and these terrestrial bound aliens and they're they're prohibited from knowing each other and to fall in love and have this ill-begotten child and to prove that like they should never be together that like this whole conspiracy is hunting down this this this couple and their child and the comic is told from two perspectives there's voice over text that is written by their daughter in the future and then there's them doing dialogue so you've got hazel the daughter in
Starting point is 01:26:38 in cursive telling the story as a past tense and then you've got the real time story going in front of you and it introduces hundreds of alien species per volume and you love all of them then they'll like kill some
Starting point is 01:26:48 there's character it's hypersexual and hyper violent but you like immediately fall in love with these non-terrestrial characters that aren't even humanoid it's one of the best sci-fi things I've ever read saga it's crazy dude
Starting point is 01:27:01 thanks for that question absolutely I need to check one thing when I put up the super chats John I see that Tara and who else is here. Terran Andrew are here. But we have a three-person shoot, and I don't believe we have three chairs in our studio.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Can you ask them to move to the studio? I think they're filming in Studio A right now. Can you ask them to move to Studio B? Sure. I can do that. Thank you. And for me, it's Man Bat for DC and Man Spider for Marble. Man likes Mans. Yeah, you can just make it a two shot of us right now.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I'll go to the live stream chat, and we'll just randomly read questions from there. type of kill time. Well, John is helping me out with that. All right. Let's go here. Thanks, John. Make a Batman movie where he's written in as the villain of the story.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Oh, yeah. I've imagined that for a very long time. Yeah. I wanted to do an Elseworld's one where Batman does snap. Oh, that's fun. And then his identity is revealed. I like that a lot. And he's kind of like a future where he breaks and kills the Joker.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Yeah, I want all that. Would that be a cool elseworld? Yeah. That would be a sweet Elseworld. I feel like if we get big enough Elseworld. all these stuff. We can start to go really bold with things. Or like Thomas Wayne as Batman, that'd be fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Let me see here. The silver chair from Xavier could be from Days of Future Past. Also his and Magneto's clothing looked similar to what they were wearing in Days of Future Past. That'd be interesting. That way the death isn't just erroneous again. Yeah, that would be cool.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Votion says he found the book in the chat? What? Are you sure? I'm not sure. Everyone go crazy. John's not watching. Let's see here. You know what? Oh,
Starting point is 01:28:43 Damby 9-Hen is pointing on the chat. The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Did you ever watch that? It's got in so much love. I heard it was awesome. I had zero interest in it. It was like on a network TV show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:54 I was like, who's going to watch this shit? I'm not a network TV guy nine times out of ten. Yeah. Even the Sarah Connor. John knows. Terrible idea. If you're in the chat, please leave a like on this video. That would mean, that would mean a lot.
Starting point is 01:29:06 All right, John. Oh, we should. should probably close the super chats have we done that yeah let's do that thank you to all who contributed thank you but it's been a fun question it's been fun it's been fun questions too man i was going to say the live chat's always popping off we got a very fun live chat here thank you guys we're building this up building it up figuring out the format yeah you got me coy all right we need to happen to super chats yes please cool let's go to the first one all right we got Zach Keel.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Thank you, Zach. As much as I'm enjoying this season of Peacemaker, I am getting frustrated with the shorter run times of the last four episodes. It puts me in an annoyed headspace from the get-go
Starting point is 01:29:48 and affects my appreciation for the show. How do you feel? I actually haven't got your opinion about that. How do you feel about the short run times? I got a bunch of them in a row. And so I was thinking, I was bummed that I couldn't take my time watching them.
Starting point is 01:30:07 So I'm in a very, I can't really answer because I had to watch them for work in a bevy. That is so true, even on our end, because we did get press access where they gave the five episodes to everyone. So I had to like get through and I didn't, I wanted time between them is my only negative. I didn't have the opportunity to take even a day between them.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Yeah, you did do your work at D.C. Yeah. And in our world, even though we stopped to like review the episodes, we're watching them like back to back for the most part and we don't have to wait a week so I can imagine the feeling is very different for the week to week it's very uh the grass always greener because I'm like I wish I had time to think about it between and it's like why is it already over and I can't know what that feels like well like I was saying earlier I do feel like sometimes substance of of scene work is missed and when you said that I immediately ping to my memories of
Starting point is 01:30:58 having that thought so I think I agree yeah I think I feel like the seam work in is weird because while this season attempts to it's intentionally more intimate with its characters like like i feel like i'm seeing so much more chris less peacemaker yeah simultaneously i i do recall my experience with the first season even on rewatch going man there's just so many good scene work you know like complete scenes and i and i feel like we don't get that anywhere near as often i look back at each episode of this and i go how many times has there been a scene where i go that scene that scene Right. Whoa. More than just that moment, you know, or that sequence. Yeah. I think I agree with that as the runtime issue, but again, I didn't get to really feel it. Yeah. Yeah. I do wonder if, you know, if there was some hindrance in the writing of Peacemaker Season 2, just due to the volume of everything he's taken on. 650 pages in a year. It's insane. That's insane. I mean, for the most part, it's still a really great show. It's still great.
Starting point is 01:32:00 So one of my favorite shows of the year. Yeah. But I don't know what it could have been. I like it, but I don't know how I feel about the runtime because I had to. James Gunn's so lucky he looks good and gray. Because that man is stress right. I don't know how he could possibly do. The fact that Man of Tomorrow is on its third draft and handed in.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Yeah. What? He said he has an incredible skill to zero in on a screenplay. So jealous. And handle shit. But I don't know what it's like. Man, his phone must always be pulling him in so much. many different directions like running a universe like an entire studio i really wanted to interview
Starting point is 01:32:37 and maybe one day i'll get the opportunity to interview both james gunn and jennifer holland at the same time because i would be so curious to know how they handle their relationship in that regard like i'm not like tell me about your fights or something i would want to know what the how do you guys set boundaries in a situation like this and when you guys are just in your private time are you discussing peacemaker and what you should do with the show does it feel like we're having work talk yeah Or do you have to be like, we're intentionally not going to talk about this right now. It's funny. I asked Dave Franco and Nelson Brie about that with their relationship and working together.
Starting point is 01:33:08 And it seemed like they really, really established a, now this is date night. And they did not want to even feel like they've been working together all day. And I think that must be essential. But when you're doing six hundred fifty pages in the year, I don't know when date night would be. Yeah. And I try to have that with people here sometimes when we're hanging out. Like, hey, we're not going to talk about the channel right now, you know. But thanks for the question.
Starting point is 01:33:29 absolutely all right let's move to the next thank you zach mark long with a long comment mark long MDL says with a generous super chat thank you very says hi hi hi mark mark oh he wasn't the long no Zach was the the big one but that's still a high for that is amazing thank you hi hi to you we should get a light on john yeah i was thinking that when they cut to the third say yeah i got a light behind me i'm back It's stylized. All right, Gopal Sarn Godarin, thank you for chiming in. Check in for McCoy Ficks, missing you on capes.
Starting point is 01:34:11 Good to see you, go, pal. I'm here. I'm here every noon. Every Wednesday, Friday, noon. Come here. I'm here every noon. Even when I don't need to be. I don't even noon.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Seven days a week. I'm here at noon. They don't film it, but I'm here. That's noon. I'm just in this room. It'd be weird. No, every Friday noon. We're right here.
Starting point is 01:34:27 I appreciate it. Coys our homeless guy. Yeah. I'm here Wednesdays, Fridays, Monday's noon. All right. Keeping it fun. Thank you, go pal. Jose, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Hey, thank you for shining. Greg and John, have you seen The Long Walk? I loved it, and Pete reminded me a lot of Koi. Let me see who plays Pete. No, it's one I opted to react to, and do you do it? I did. I did the Long Walk. Did you like it? I'm one of the 40 people that actually did the walk on the...
Starting point is 01:34:58 I'm their whole marketing campaign. pain. I signed my life away. I didn't even know. I was going to be the rats. Oh, no, I didn't get paid. Don't worry. I really loved it. I'm not big a horror guy and it was very traumatic and it's not like horror and like the, you know, slasher sentence, but it's really brutal. But I actually, I take that back. I keep saying I'm not a horror guy. I'm realizing I'm becoming a horror guy. It's happening. I'm feeling it. I'm more invested in those movies. But this one was really hard because it was kids getting hurt. And I was like very affected by that. Oh, my favorite. Yeah, it's brutal. But it's more Green Mile, I hear, I haven't seen Green Mile. It's more Shawshank Stephen King than it, Stephen King. Like, it's really emotional, but then it's really brutal. How's Mark Hamel? He's really good, but I had to adjust after 10 minutes to be like, stop seeing Mark Campbell. Like, it was the first time I was like, that's Mark Campbell and I had to shake that.
Starting point is 01:35:50 And that, you know, I don't usually feel that about actors. But David Johnson is the next big movie starred. Like within five minutes, I was like, this guy, because an Alien Romney, he was my big takeaway in five minutes of this i was like that wasn't a fluke this guy's a freaking as the shit yeah like we're the gravitas he brought reminded me of seeing like philip semer hoffman he was younger ironically because his son is in the movie uh but phyllis semer hoffin or or you know those actors that you're like they're gonna be heath ledger like that like there's so much weight in this young person's energy and he's incredible in it isn't it funny that we
Starting point is 01:36:23 have two stephen king adaptations coming out this year yeah and the first one is the long walk and the second one is the running man and we had uh chuck life of chuck we did have life of chuck but that man was not walking he was not walking that man but he was dancing he was a man the life of chuck he danced yeah he's the dancing he danced then he walks that he runs have you read a single stephen king book i've never read one i've wanted to i read i read i read one actually i totally forgot which i remember this i read i was like i'm going to get into stephen king because i love the trailer and i wanted to read it before I saw the movie it was dream catcher
Starting point is 01:37:00 oh no and reading that book with aliens busting out of people's assholes and a bunch of farting yeah I don't know if this was the right I love this guys for me
Starting point is 01:37:11 I don't know if this was the right book and then I watched the movie and I'm like I don't know you should adapt every Stephen King baby not all of them just because Stephen King doesn't mean we should adapt this thing hey
Starting point is 01:37:23 I've not but I want to I own the stand I have a bunch of Stephen King. I just know. I'd like to. And funny enough, David Johnson is Pete. So that's who you remind Jose. I'm so flattered. That's really kind of you. David Johnson is an optimist in that film. And I definitely took some notes of like, I could be more optimistic. I thought you read Secret Window. We got really obsessed with Secret Window. But Secret Window is part of a short, there's like four stories in that book. It's like four minutes to midnight or something. Yeah. And in Secret Window, it's called Secret Window Secret Garden. And that will. was that that was really short yeah that was easy read yeah well all right thank you Jose moving on to Charlie's flicks fix thirsting for the both of you in the chat I read 1408 and oh hey he's read some king that's an underrated that's this one of the the movie is a way more 1408 it's also a short story that one is way the movie I think is way more interesting oh really the book is remarkably like another
Starting point is 01:38:27 really happens in this. It's not one of the best regarded King movies, but I do think it's like one of the better and underrated ones. There's been so much good King. We were looking after Shawshank. It's insane.
Starting point is 01:38:38 The voluminous work. Yeah. Well, and the Richard Bachman stuff. But thank you, Charlie's Flicks Fix, for this little trumpet playing Lemon Man with his little buddy. Thank you, buddy. Love a parade.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Hut, mut, butt. Oh, you didn't talk about Bond. Damn, forgot about that. Oh, don't worry. Maybe someone will ask a question. Good. Hey guys, I loved your War of the World's video. If you haven't seen Megalopolis, it's just as funny.
Starting point is 01:39:04 But if Koi doesn't want to watch, there's an official comic coming out by Chris Ryle. I have seen Megalopoulos. Was it rough? Was it great? I was at the premiere. And I was in a nice tux because I was like, I'm going to lean in. I'm going to try to experience this whole thing. And the premiere had Francis Ford Coppola, De Niro, and,
Starting point is 01:39:26 Spike Lee do a Q&A first for like 40 minutes. First is De Niro in it? First is a red flag. De Niro and Spike Lee. Are not in it. Francis Ford Coppola's there and clearly this is being shot live somewhere with these three guys. I'm at the premiere. That's
Starting point is 01:39:42 an important part of this. John Voigt comes and sits down next to me and I'm watching. Francis Ford Coppola just rip into politics and rip into Trump. I'm sitting next to John Voight who is growing visibly more agitated.
Starting point is 01:39:58 So I'm like, I don't know what to do, but this is hilarious. So I'm like watching, I'm trying not to laugh, and I'm trying not to just be like, because it's so funny to me. And then I was like, I got to shake this off, got to shake this off. I literally at one point, during this 40-minute Q&A, can't contain how funny I'm I got to go get popcorn. Because it's going to be too obvious that I'm like, so I go and I get popcorn, I get popcorn, I get back, the movie's about to start watching the movie.
Starting point is 01:40:20 And then the movie is even more overtly political in the Q&A. I'm sitting next to John Boyt. And the whole time, I'm like, did he read the script? Why did you agree to do this movie? And the whole time, I'm thinking like, what's he thinking? The movie's bad. I had a great time. Because the whole time, I'm like, what a weird experience.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Can it be fun bad? There are moments that are amazingly fun bad. It look boring bad. Most of it's boring. But there's about an hour in the three hours. That's a blast. Well, doing the commentary videos has made it easier to express. Because when we were watching War of the World,
Starting point is 01:40:53 so it was still in that mode of filmmaker, made this I try to find the good try to find the good yeah and eventually I break you'll need that for megalopolis this is a megalopolis I was like but after doing bad then I'm like yeah I mean sometimes I'm just more comfortable being like this is shit let's rip it apart
Starting point is 01:41:07 the movie shy LaBuff is in and the movie that Aubrey Plaza is in are great movies yeah I don't know how many movies Adam Driver's in but none of them were as interesting the movies Aubrey Plaza and Shail Buf were it actively did say no I didn't like it it was a it was a time yeah I respect
Starting point is 01:41:23 that Copeland made an effort to work with all kinds of people, whether you agreed with them or not. That gave you a lovely life member. It really did. All right. The truck wash bathroom stud. Your name cuts off, but you look like a stud. And if that's Big Joe Grizzly from Rob Zombie's Halloween in your
Starting point is 01:41:41 truck wash bathroom avatar there, then props to you. Can you guys possibly react to Spider-Man the next teen ass? What is Teen-ass again? The next The new animated series? It's one of my favorite Spider-Man shows
Starting point is 01:41:59 and it takes place after Sam Ramey's first movie. You mean like it continues that continuity? I don't know what... Let me do some quick research. I don't feel like people would care. I don't even know what it is. Considering neither of us here have any idea of what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:42:16 Appreciate the request though. It is a... 2003 animated series following the events of the 2002 film. I mean, that sounds very interesting to me, though. Peter Parker and his friends, Mary Jane, and Harry Osborne start attending Empire State University together, Peter and Mary Jane, try to establish a relationship without much success. Peter's superhero duties and his later involvement with Indira Daimongi interfere with his romance
Starting point is 01:42:40 with Mary Jane, while Harry continuously blamed Spider-Man for the death of his father. Is this the one on MTV that was CGI? Yeah, is it? It might be. I'm seeing 3D animated Because I know of the look I didn't know that was following the Toby stuff Apparently so
Starting point is 01:42:58 I mean it sounds interesting I don't think we will ever do that To be fully up front with you though I feel bad Because when you when you ask in the form of Here's some money I have a question for you There's a part of me like
Starting point is 01:43:14 Sure I'll commit like Hundreds of hours And yes this is the 3D CG Yeah, I remember seeing it as a child If this channel could ever get to the point Where all I have to do is just be one of the hosts I'd probably consider that more often Dude, I don't know that if I didn't have to do
Starting point is 01:43:34 All the other stuff around the videos Yeah Batman animated series would be a very fun rewatch We have a video drop in Friday Mask of the Fantasom Yeah and I was like man I forget all of the animated series That's one of the best Batman movies Ranked high when we are always
Starting point is 01:43:49 I always think back to when we did that Batman movie ranking is very fun. All right. Yes. Next super chat comes in from Alejandro Angell. Alejandro. This is from a while
Starting point is 01:44:01 ago and we got the audio fixed. So thank you. Oh, thank you. Appreciate that. Now I know where they're from. Alejandro Angel. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Deadshot from the DC universe. Thank you for chiming in. Did you guys see the Toby quote leak? Too good to be AI. I didn't. Thanks. The Toby quote leak? What the hell does that mean?
Starting point is 01:44:25 He just wrote leak in quotation marks. The Toby. Toby. That's the funny thing about photo leaks now. People cannot tell what is real anymore. That's probably one of the benefits of AI. One of three. Because of the fact that AI can look real and good.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Now sometimes if there's a leak, we go, AI. Okay, so back then with the Tobin McGuire photos, even the Andrew Garfield, with a blue screen behind him that video. Nowadays, you can say that's AI. Yeah, plausible deniability is different. Now people can buy that back then. You're like, that's fucking not. Yeah, it's just, that's just,
Starting point is 01:45:02 look it to me McGuire's dick. Yeah. Check the lighting. You can't. No, that's, that is. Zoom in on that. Authentic McGuire. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:10 Well, who knows, if we see him in Doomsday, then we'll all eat some crow. Alan Smithy. Hey, buddy. Every fucking week you're here. I fucking love you. Thank you, man. You're my favorite filmmakers?
Starting point is 01:45:21 There's a lot of people here. I see names that are usually here every week, and I appreciate you being here every week. Thank you. Alan says, John, John, he's our man. If he can't do it, no one can. Thank you, Alan. I appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:45:33 I'm doing my best. It's true. Thank you. I'm trying to engage my octopus arms and my third eye. Thank you, John, for everything you've been handling today. No problem. I know what's a lot. It's a lot, but it's a joy.
Starting point is 01:45:44 It's very fun. So, yeah, I'm happy. I'm always happy to be here. This is one of my favorite place. is to be in the studio. Tyson's chicken nuggies. Got a corporate sponsor for this podcast.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Hey, thank you so much for chiming in. Sup guys? Got a fan cast itch I can't get rid of and wanted your take. What do you guys think about Pete Davidson
Starting point is 01:46:06 as plastic man for James Guns? DCU. I love it. That would work. Yeah, I'm into that. Was he in the Suicide Squad? Yeah, briefly.
Starting point is 01:46:14 He died, though. Yeah, he's like in the beginning or something? Yeah, I just wanted to kill Pete Davidson. Is Pete Davidson a real? a real actor now? I think he, I mean, he was so good in, like, King of Staten Island and stuff. Didn't see it.
Starting point is 01:46:25 Oh, he's good in that. I know he had that show that had, like, Joe Pesci. You got Joe Pesci. Yeah, I think he's like an actor actor now. And I think he's great. I mean, I really like,
Starting point is 01:46:32 that was the last Apatow, I think I saw. The, really good. That's an Apatow produced one, right? The one movie I did see of him is Bodies, bodies, bodies. And I remembered him being really good in that movie. Yeah, he was great in that as well. But that was more of,
Starting point is 01:46:46 that's a Pete Davidson. Right. He was playing Pete Davidson. Staten Island, he actually had some range. Yeah, I guess he's like a real actor, actor. Yeah, I'm into plastic, man, that's fun. Yeah, because he isn't, I wouldn't just say, like, oh, a guy from S&L. Like, he's good, like, as an actor.
Starting point is 01:47:00 He is one of those people that have surprised me in the amount of connection and influence he has, where he just has, like, it was like the time of Ashton Coucher. Yeah. But that one time, this dude who was on that 70s show is, like, close friends with Justin Timberlake and beyond. I'm like, how did this guy become, like, so. in with everybody and Pete Davidson is one of those people to me where how did this guy from S&L just get in with everybody and admittedly when I see him in interviews he's a very remarkably charming nice guy and he's got this strange level of honesty yeah and I think people are drawn to like that earnest honesty in this town yeah uh I remember I went to uh Glenn
Starting point is 01:47:42 Powell's birthday like eight years ago and he was friends with everyone and now he's a movie star I'm like well like it's one of those things where it's like and suddenly it makes sense that you knew everyone and now you're like very successful are we bleeding into theirs i heard some chatter i heard some outside chatter so i just wanted to i think it'd be funnier if if we hear them reacting what are they watching they're watching it oh andrew's never seen it oh that's awesome chapter speaking of stephen king yeah i was gonna say for uh for 10 bonus points can either of you name the character pete davidson played in the suicide squad no i actually don't know and that's my favorite james gun movie
Starting point is 01:48:23 what's the first letter b no idea nope and uh and it's a little bit of a it's a little bit of sorry i'm out of frame it's a little bit of a hodgepodge name so you'll probably hate yourself when when you hear it because it just sounds like it could be so many other this kinds of character what is it blackguard oh it never gonna gotten that never would have gotten that well you both lost 10 points points. I'll go open the door again after this. Thank you, Tyson's, chicken nuggies.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Thank you, Tyson. Voyislav, Varcha-Kik, Varjachik. I'm so sorry. I'm going to I have messed your name up entirely. I'm going to look up the pronunciation after I read the question itself. You guys going to New York Comic-Con this year? I am. I just... Can you confirm what you're doing or now? Not yet. Next week I'll be able to. too. Okay. But I'm doing a thing that I'll be able to confirm next week on this very channel, and I just got it all buttoned up, or I'm actually buttoning it up as we speak. Those are the emails I've had to check during the stream. But I will be there on Friday and Saturday.
Starting point is 01:49:33 So my thing I believe is Friday. Yeah. So Friday, hunt me down. I'll be at New York Comic-Con. I'm only going quick. All right. I have had almost no interest in going to New York Comic-Con. It's one of my favorites. People love it, and it seems like there's a lot of people gravitating towards. Greg. I love New York. Yeah. And the, the,
Starting point is 01:49:52 the, sorry, John, it's not, it's not your fault. It's the mic's fault. I just keep crackle thing. It's only distracting me and I'm sorry. I will order one of the newer
Starting point is 01:50:03 headsets. Please do. You got the company card? Back card. Never leave the cable out. For the company. I haven't gotten to yell that in like a year. What was,
Starting point is 01:50:13 what was it? You were saying you don't want to go. Then I got an invite from, I don't think I can say I got an invite from a studio oh and they're like are you going to New York Comic-Con because we wanted to see if you wanted to do this thing
Starting point is 01:50:33 and I was like and I literally replied going I've had no interest in going and now this is the first time I actually feel painfully sad to say I am not going to New York Comic-Con I want to hear it off air what it is yeah and yeah that was one that and it's not like a big movie
Starting point is 01:50:52 studio it's a it's a television oh got it so I was like damn that would have been fucking cool I if I'm gonna cover anything I can do it I'm going for the channel I don't know if I can maybe let me look at the email like if it's a thing that you want on the channel
Starting point is 01:51:09 yeah let me look at the email but I'm I love New York in the fall more than anywhere else in the planet like Bull of Boston New York I love the East Coast in the fall so I usually go and then I try to add a day where I just sit in Central Park. And I just watch the leaves fall. That's my favorite thing. So I want to do that.
Starting point is 01:51:23 I love to. I would love to, if we can grow enough, I'd love to fly everyone out there for a weekend. And that way we could do some reject event. Dude, rejects. He used to be amazing. I'm not going to do something where I'm like, you guys have to book you on home to hell.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Come out for this work event for money that you spend. Some people do that. I know. I know. But, dude, it'd be really fun to like do an East Coast. I think we should go a West and East Coast one. West would be a lot easier to manage.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Who's next, John? All right. Also, just there are a quick John, can you put your mic back on? I'm sorry. Yes, my B. Vojislav Vyachich, thank you so much
Starting point is 01:51:59 for your question. I know how it sounds. I hope I got you there. Tyler, here we go. Thank you for chiming in. Hi, guys. I've been watching Wes Anderson films
Starting point is 01:52:07 for the first time. Is there a comic book character you think he could make a good film a boot? Squirrel Girl. why squirrel girl i think it'd be really funny to see a really hyper symmetrical brightly colored squirrel girl movie and i feel like this sense of humor west henderson adds would add a very interesting layer to squirrel girl dorine green west anderson what's funny to me is my answer
Starting point is 01:52:35 it's going to be ant man oh yeah i can totally see that like doing so if he was doing a bunch of symmetry things yeah ants we have similar reason, like a bunch of symmetrical squirrels, the sense of humor. It would capture the oddity and the quirkiness. Yeah. I think it would capture the absurdity of this, of the idea of this character. I mean, we just talked about him with Pete Davidson, but I think Plastic Man would be interesting.
Starting point is 01:53:01 I mean, it would have to be very separate. It would be like an else world because that wouldn't blend into the universe. But like, if there was just going to be a one-off, that'd be fun. Yeah. Yeah. I like Wes Anderson a lot. I appreciate that question. This has already been AI'd, but I really do think a lot.
Starting point is 01:53:17 Wes Anderson X-Men would X-Men was actually my second answer. Yeah, that's so funny. X-Men was the one I was thinking would be weirdly cool. And I was trying to like rack my brain for, is there some other type of smaller group of people within
Starting point is 01:53:33 the X-Men Academy that they could focus on? Because I think he would do a really good one that takes place on, on Xavier's campus. Let him do X-Factor. Let X-Men be darker. Yeah, yeah. If he did like some offshoot one, I think he could actually pull that off and people would like the more obscure power set.
Starting point is 01:53:49 I think Generation X being the 90s wouldn't be his cup of tea, but something like X Factor or like one of the weird teams would be fun, like, yeah, I'm in. Wright Fines says Magneto. And then put Xavier's in the Royal Tenenbaum's House sets. And Tony's already flash.
Starting point is 01:54:05 All right. Yeah, there you go. Richard Lloyd. Thank you for chiming in. Have you seen oh, oh, well, some of us have. Have you seen the Wolverine game trailer? Oh, I get to talk about it. I love this trailer so much. I'm considering a game of PS5 in fall of 2026. And hopefully a new system will be announced
Starting point is 01:54:25 and they'll be like a little cheaper because tariff's up them $100. But I have, I love Spider-Man PS4. It story is actually one of the best Spider-Man stories, I think, adapted, like other than comics, it's not adapted. But one of the best non-comic Spider-Man stories, I think is the Spider-Man game.
Starting point is 01:54:40 I have played about two hours of Miles Morales. I try to play. an hour every holiday season because that's all I really have time for and I've played it the last two Christmases so I'm two hours into Miles Morales hopefully hour three this Christmas and then Spider-Man 2
Starting point is 01:54:54 I was gonna get once I beat Miles Morales and I haven't yet so I would love to get a PS5 for Wolverine I love the costumes in it I think it's a really beautiful like weapons system the way he moves is really cool the fact that we get Mystique Sentinel and Omega frickin' red in the trailer
Starting point is 01:55:09 Lloyd I forget his name Liam McIntyre another Australian in doing Wolverine. He sounds awesome. The visual effects look amazing. I think the gameplay looks incredible. Like, I'm not used to that level of graphics. It looks awesome. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:55:23 I thought it was an incredible trailer. I did do a trailer reaction with Aaron. We were going to shoot our reaction to District 9, which... Had you never seen District 9? Okay, my experience of District 9, is the honest of God truth, is I used to be part... And John knows this company. I was part of a network marketing company. it was really like a cult very much so and John had a good enough experience with them to know that this is certainly a thing that would happen is like they had to come first and foremost at all times and I went to go watch District 9 and I was constantly having to leave the theater to answer calls and responses and stuff like that yeah and so I didn't catch a lot
Starting point is 01:56:13 of it. And then when I was in the theater, I was thinking about other things, or I was like secretly having a look at my text. So I did, I didn't clock any of it. All I remembered was a flash of like a suit firing stuff. So like, I didn't even, I didn't remember what the plot was. Wow. Oh, damn, he's becoming this alien. Yeah. I'm very excited. John, please. I am very excited to see this video. I love District 9 a lot. That's going to be great. It, uh, it, it's like, pooh, it really stuck with me. It's so dope. I was like, damn, this is a bleak-ass experience.
Starting point is 01:56:48 And what was the question? I was sorry. Wolverine. Oh, yeah, yeah. And beforehand, I just want to credit Aaron because he caught it, came out, and, you know, anything that adds more time onto my day
Starting point is 01:56:59 generally stresses me out. So it was like, I don't do it do it. Because then I was like, I don't have to edit and do the thumb, man, I don't want to do all this. I was like, I do want to see this tree. So, yeah, we did it.
Starting point is 01:57:11 And I do love it. You know, like if the conceit of Spider-Man is you get to feel like you are being Spider-Man, I think the game trailer did a really good job on selling you that this will allow you to feel like you are Wolverine. Yeah. However, Spider-Man 1 on PS4 had great impact because of the first thing you said the story. Gameplay is cherry on top. Sure. But the novelty of great gameplay really does go downhill after.
Starting point is 01:57:39 Yeah. There's only so many things you can. can actually do no matter how much they throw at you. Yeah. And how many combos you can unlock and whatever and skins you can get. Gameplay can become numbing if you're not gripped by the story. And Miles Morales and Spider-Man 2 overall well received, but the stories were not as strong or as impactful. And I think that's why they kind of withered in the zeitgeist really fast. So Wolverine does need a good story. Oh yeah. It needs to actually have that or else none of that game. All that gameplay will just be that that trailer we saw and then after a while you get a little bit bored it's all
Starting point is 01:58:13 same tees yeah but if yeah i agree but it looks good and hopefully the story is as good as spider man one because man oh man yeah if it is that's a hell of a wolverine's like guy shift from just being a huge jackman vehicle yeah i'm really excited for the skins i'm also really excited people to discover the character beyond the movies like wolverine is such a there's so many years of storytelling to do well the other cool part that i that really struck me is yes we got huge Hugh Jackman in the Wolverine yellow suit, but it's still more of like a Deadpool film, more than anything, and the Deadpool vibe. And this allowed us to get a truly, extremely gritty, violent feeling, hide appropriate.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Yeah, but in the yellow and still feel raw and badass. Yeah. Like there's, there was something that still felt a little lighter in tone in execution because of Hugh Jackman in the yellow suit. Love it. but this is providing that rawness like that Logan rawness in the yellow suit is how I put it yeah I'm very excited yeah I'm sorry yeah in heck yeah uh quickly in the chat we got a lot people excited over district nine some people even saying that it's more criminal than the Epstein file is not getting a sequel also some people want a forget-me-not wes Anderson
Starting point is 01:59:29 oh that's great which would be friggin hilarious great all right thank you richard Lloyd on to Patrick Dumozongi. Thank you for chiming in. Hey, Koi, what did you think of the Alan Moore slash Grant Morrison feud back in the day? Morrison famously didn't like Watchmen in the 80s,
Starting point is 01:59:49 and the fact that they both practiced magic added a layer. I think the British Invasion was amazing for comics. They were both two of the biggest members of that time in comic books. I thought them being rivals was charming because it was like
Starting point is 02:00:03 these two geniuses being petty was so funny. like that i i don't remember a lot of it but i remember reading wizard magazine being like hey that's funny these adults are fighting uh because i was a kid um but i think of them as two of the greatest writers of all time i think of both of them as being writers that are great in and out of the medium um and i think sometimes when you're that good and that intelligent and someone says something that you patently disagree with it does reframe your whole view of them um a lot of times people try to weaponize um you know allan more being like i don't really like comics anymore at me
Starting point is 02:00:36 loving comics so much. Like, people will quote Alan Moore at me as like a jab, and I'm like, okay, I don't agree with 100% of someone who I respect and admire. But if you're a fellow comic writer, I could see that being actual animosity. So I see why they fought. I've been lucky enough to meet Grant Morrison a couple times. I've never met Alan Moore, but I would love to because talking to Grant Morrison, it was so cool to reframe some of the comics I love of his by him telling me the behind
Starting point is 02:01:00 the scenes of them. Like, we talked about X-Men, and his view on X-Men when he was done writing them was so different than when he started and that was really special so I'd love to ever have the opportunity to talk to Alan Moore because I might reframe my view of comics not negatively but just reframe I mean from discovering Grant Morrison so many of his so many of his so much of his work this year him and Alan Moore of two very different minds oh yeah Alan Moore is like a cynical dude you know Grant Morrison's like everyone should have everything like he's such a like oh you know if it works out and uh yeah like i i haven't read his superman comic yet allamore the one i was on him up
Starting point is 02:01:40 yeah i mean i have it added to my cue you uh does it come across cynical or is it actually surprisingly helpful yeah it's i mean he wasn't always cynical i think almore got like his writing of all because swamp thing's pretty dark but there's some hope in it okay all right cool yeah grant morrison came to my 28th birthday i think when they started making his movies he started He went into his cave and just made some magic and raged. All righty. Thank you, Patrick. Actually, I'm going to jump real quick above our next question from Captain Fernandez and come back around because Patrick has a second part to this, I believe.
Starting point is 02:02:19 Patrick Dumazangi again. Also, what are your thoughts on Warren Ellis's Planetary and incredible deconstruction of each comic age? That's all you, buddy. I don't know. What he's talking about? Planetary is a comic that come out. Frank Quietly Art. It's really good. What other art has Frank Quietly done? He did Moon Night? New X-Men. The, the Grand Morrison X-Men stuff.
Starting point is 02:02:43 Okay. He also did Superman. He did All-Star? Yes. He did All-Star. Yeah, Graham Orson and him worked together a lot. Okay. He's great. He's a genius. Planetary is really, no, wait, no, no, no. It wasn't. It wasn't Frank Quiley. It was it? It was Joe, John Cassaday. It's Cassaday. Yes, Joe Rogan, comic artist. John Cassidy. Warren Ellis and John Cassidy. Aha, I fixed it before I had to be corrected.
Starting point is 02:03:06 John Cassaday, who unfortunately passed away a couple years ago, great artist. But Planetary was a really interesting commentary that played with tropes. I unfortunately can't speak too much to it because I read it as it was coming out and I was a child. So when I tell you I didn't understand a lot of what's going on, I mean it. I was like trying to be heady and like, I hear this comic is smart. Oh, my word. And I would try to keep up and didn't. So I need to reread planetary because it's been.
Starting point is 02:03:29 in 20 years. Oh, okay. Appreciate that. John, Mike. All right, I was trying to pull up the art, but there's no time. All right, here we go. Captain Fernandez, thank you for chiming in.
Starting point is 02:03:41 Thoughts on Shane Black, saying our DJ is going to single-handedly reinvigorate. Saw this morning, yeah. Yeah, single-handedly re-invigorate the entire comic book movie industry with his performance is Doom. He said this in an interview posted
Starting point is 02:03:55 today. Yeah, he said something, too, that at first it sounded, I don't know if he used the word cynical uh he he i first said yeah first it sounded like something negative and then he whatever you just said right now is the sentiment he is expressing because he's got a new movie coming out with mackie mack and lekeith stanfield kid i didn't like the trailer didn't either worried about it i love shame black well they they pitched they showed it like it's going to be a the initial imagery was oh a buddy cop movie yeah with lekees Stanfield and Mark Wahlberg.
Starting point is 02:04:31 Watch the trailer. It's not that at all. And that's fine. It doesn't have to be. But then I saw the trailer and I thought the trailer was, it doesn't look good. It's the first Shane Black movie I haven't been excited for, and I was excited for Predators.
Starting point is 02:04:46 I thought this would really, like... He deserves to be the top of his game. Like, he is the godfather of an entire genre, and I don't know why he doesn't get more opportunities, and I don't know why this was the one that happened. because he did that Predator move. But he also did the nice guys and like the weapon
Starting point is 02:05:02 and Blunk is Kinnight and Last Tension Hero. People look at the money, man. Yeah, it's a shame because the nice guy should have gotten four sequels by now. I like the hell out of Iron Mather. I like, oh, Iron Mn3 is incredible. It's my top third of Marvel.
Starting point is 02:05:16 Then that is a movie I really did not care for when I first saw it. I really didn't like it. I hated the Mandarin. I was a big defender. And it wasn't until the second time I watched it like a couple years later. I think it's genius.
Starting point is 02:05:27 I thought it was brilliant. Using that imagery, like weaponizing iconography is such an American... I love that image. But I'm a huge shame black guy. So I like Mark Wahlberg. I'm sorry, everyone.
Starting point is 02:05:39 I like Mark Wahlberg. And I think Lakeith Stanfield is such an incredible actor. So this should be top of my most anticipated. Instead, I'm like, I guess I'm streaming, I'll watch it. And that feels awful because I love Shane Black.
Starting point is 02:05:51 And it looks like a streaming movie. And I love Shane Black. He's one of my favorite writers of all time. Like, ever. A streaming. movie trailer is good when you're like, this should be in the theaters. Yeah. I feel like we're going to have the experience we had with the Krasinski movie. Yeah. Guy, yeah. The Guy Ritchie movie where I was like, one of my favorite writers, one of favorite directors. Yeah. Oh, it's on
Starting point is 02:06:12 streaming. Yeah. And like, I worry about that with Shane Black because he deserves big, huge, spectacle things. Ah, yeah. But the thought on what he said about R.D.J. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's great friends with Robert Downey, Jr., I think no matter what, he's not Quentin Tarantino, he's not going to say whatever's on his mind, you know. That's true. I think if he knows some things, I'm excited for Shane Black's taste. Like, I like Shane Black's opinion, so if he's seen some stuff, I'm excited, and he could have because he's friends with him.
Starting point is 02:06:50 There's no way he's going to talk shit about it. But that's not I mean, but him. He's way too close with him. Right. Him bringing it up doesn't mean anything different. I mean, so yeah RDJ specifically got him for Iron Man three
Starting point is 02:06:59 because they're buddies from Kiss Kiss Bang Bang a movie that helped his resurgence Yeah, yeah like Shane Black helped Downy out in a big way
Starting point is 02:07:06 Yeah So, you know When's RDJ gonna Help Shane Black out Shane Blackout And work with Mel Gibson Or something Shane Black
Starting point is 02:07:17 He was like the first big one To come out for Mel Gibson Remember that? Yeah, because of the lethal weapon? That was a big time Was it because of lethal weapon? I mean like No, no, RDJ
Starting point is 02:07:25 RDJ or something Oh, right, right. I think that's because of Shane Black in the middle. Like, I think they know each other through Shane because Shane. They did a movie together. I never saw that movie. He talked about how, like, Mel Gibson was like a huge, you know, champion for him or something like that. He did Air America together, but I think they became friends through Shane.
Starting point is 02:07:42 Oh, perhaps, yeah. Because Shane, lethal weapon, Shane kiss, kiss, bang, bang. That would be so odd. That would be the oddest experience. But I hope it does well for Shane's sake, to be honest. Have you looked at any of these straight to DVD, Mel Gibson movies, or straight to streaming? No. They are so bad.
Starting point is 02:08:02 I love Fat Man so much that I haven't wanted to, like, have you seen Fat Man? That wasn't straight, though. I wasn't, that was a theatrical release. That movie's so good. He's done some, like, really, like, oh, oh, these are, I've seen, like, scenes there, there was one that was, like, top trending on Netflix for a while where he's, like, a radio host or something, and it is so bad. He was good in that movie with Mason. Like, they were genuinely good performances. Yeah, yeah, he's good in that.
Starting point is 02:08:28 Yeah. Yeah. I like that movie. Yeah, same. But yeah. Oh, fucking Stephen's movie. Yeah. We were all there.
Starting point is 02:08:36 I don't. I forgot that. I was like, oh, wait, yeah. I know the guy. Yeah. Yeah. And on the line is the radio movie. Yeah, that one was so funnily bad.
Starting point is 02:08:48 Dead air, Ponty pool or something. He makes a lot of bad movies. Oh. Some Nicholas Cade of shit. He's doing better now, though. Yeah, that's true. He's on top of the world. All right.
Starting point is 02:08:58 Christian Unpronounceable. Thank you so much. Hey, buddy. Hi, everyone. Just finished peacemaker. And holy shit. Agreed. Love the episode.
Starting point is 02:09:10 Talked about it at length. I'm glad you were able to experience it. It's good they released at 6 p.m. Yeah. I think it's way better for everyone. Yeah. For people who cover. For audiences.
Starting point is 02:09:23 Because if you release it. Nine o'clock East Coast. so it's not too too late. Exactly. You don't wake up to spoilers if it's on at midnight. Because if it's on a midnight, there's a lot of the West Coast audience
Starting point is 02:09:32 will still watch it. It's not a midnight. People will stay up. People are going to spoil it. You're going to wake up, turn on your YouTube. Screwed. But stay up till 3 in the morning and watch it?
Starting point is 02:09:40 No, no, no. I think 6 is great. Six is, I think, a great sweet spot because also, although what time would that be in the UK? Would that be like 4 a.m.? So it's probably not the best for UK audiences. Sorry, UK.
Starting point is 02:09:52 Yeah. Did I just math that out properly? I think so. It would be like 2 a.m. What time in the UK? Or what time here? I think UK is eight hours ahead. So I think it'd be 2 a.m. out there.
Starting point is 02:10:01 Yeah. If it's 8 hours. Oh, that sucks. Yeah, you're about 2 a.m. Yeah. That sucks for them. There's no perfect time. Inevitably, someone in the world is going to lose.
Starting point is 02:10:11 Planet's a circle. I think maybe 2 p.m. It's like the right time. But then people are working. Then they get spoiled going out of work. Yeah, but 2 p.m. You're going to West Coast, East Coast, International. If they're real fans will be watching at work.
Starting point is 02:10:25 That's true. Sorry, I'm derailing us. Please, let's continue on. Thank you. All right, Christian. Thank you for your comment. Michelle. Hey, Michelle.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Michelle, my bell. If you could choose any comic book movie currently in production to be directly involved in, which would you choose? Clayface. What contributions would you make to ensure its success?
Starting point is 02:10:46 Love you guys. And thank you, Michelle, for chiming in. I would like to be in Avengers Doomsday, and I want to be the person that goes, I guys lose as Iron Man Like in the delivery of no more dead cops That is my dream
Starting point is 02:11:03 That is my goal I want to be the one person to call out That Downey does in fact Look like Iron Man Now in real life I'd love to be part Yeah like I want that delivery But in a doomsday In real life I want to be part
Starting point is 02:11:13 A brand new day so bad I would like to see that Spider-Man suit in person Like to just be evolved with that I'd love to consult on the villains in some way I know Spider-Man like the back of my hand I think that'd be really, really special. There's a ton of D.C. stuff I want to be involved with. But I definitely think, like, Spider-Man is a character I grew up thinking was real.
Starting point is 02:11:34 I kind of want to see him real. Like, I've worked with Tom. I've worked with, I got to interview Andrew at CinemaCon. Like, I've met a lot of Spider-Man. But something about that costume just makes it feel so real. Oh, why did I say Clayface? The Batman part two. That would be the one.
Starting point is 02:11:47 Yeah. I've never seen. You had that experience where you got to see Christian Bale in the outfit. Dude, that was so crazy. And I would, once you said that about Spider-Man, I'd be cool, see Spider-Man in a suit immediately made me go, oh, my God, yeah, Batman Part 2's happening. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:00 I'd love to see Robert Pattinson in the suit. What contribution I would make? None. I would love to get killed. Carry his case. Yeah. And see Colin Farrell on the same day on set? Yeah, that'd be awesome.
Starting point is 02:12:13 I'd be so nervous. Yeah. I feel like I'd be more nervous with them in the suits. Oh, yeah. And if they were just people I'm talking to. Dude, the moment I ran into Christian Bale, like, it was so surreal to see him in suit as Batman with, like, henchmen in a lit for dark, like, it was lit to be scary. And I was like, everything of the myth is true. And it felt like I got to be a henchman in Gotham.
Starting point is 02:12:34 It was so cool to be terrified. So, yeah, that'd be special. I agree with Batman's up there. All right. Thank you so much for your contribution there, Michelle. Patrick de Mazzangi is back. Sandman Mystery Theater. Shade the Changing Man would be great projects in the DCU.
Starting point is 02:12:54 Also, as a black British, I need MCU to make Blade British like in the 70s, Tomb of Dracula Comics. Great Channel. It would be such a turn if Blade was British after Wesley's times. But you're right, there have been canonically British Blade. You know what? If we get any Blade, I'll be happy. So whatever that takes, I'm in. British Blade.
Starting point is 02:13:19 I think we know they've already established these this mehershali's voice right yeah Idriselba else would be awesome yes dude he would have been such a good blade even uh even in uh the Marvel zombies he's Merhershal a coded I never
Starting point is 02:13:40 whoever did the Mahershali voice in that is incredible because I never thought that I was listening to an impersonator I think the guy's name was Todd Smith and I was like what a voice pair like this is incredible like the Robert Downey Jr. one is weird to be yeah because it's nine out of ten there
Starting point is 02:13:57 I'm definitely hearing someone pretending to be Robert Downey Jr., yeah they're smart with Spider Mac is just kind of doing his own thing yeah yeah I'm glad they didn't try to make it Tom Holland yeah so it's not distracting
Starting point is 02:14:09 where though the guy who's doing Merchall Lee's voice impeccable yeah my God I could not tell I didn't know until you guys pointed it out to me that it wasn't rehearsal Ollie, which means we really haven't had
Starting point is 02:14:21 Mercial at all these. All he's really done is have one line in the turtles. It's such a shame. Hey, you sure you're ready for that? There it is. Patrick, thank you so much. Richard Lloyd is back. Michael
Starting point is 02:14:36 Rosenbaum, Lex, you see how he turns. Yeah, and I think we'll get darker and darker and more intense with what Nicholas Holt's doing. He's an older to start. Like, we've he's a more established lex but i do think people will see the darkness come out of him um but rozebom's my favorite still sorry nick but you'll get maybe give him a beard
Starting point is 02:14:57 make him look like obadiah stain apparently john crier was a really good lex i never saw with the beard because he had the beard nick nicholas holt is like a close second for me to rosenbaum with one movie i think he could even surpass rosenbaum but rosenbaum 10 years i mean he left for a couple years but like he was so he had so much screen time as him he's so established yeah it's gonna be hard to get rid of that and shake that from my mind he's a great interviewer that rosemball yeah he is he's an incredible he's a really good dude i've done a number of his panels i've like talked to him a lot of premieres he's a re i like rosy a lot he's a blast yeah and i was so happy because lex was my favorite character on tv i was so afraid i'd meet him and be like oh instead i was like
Starting point is 02:15:37 oh this guy's awesome outside of and like sorority boys is great if you guys should watch if you haven't seen the inside you podcast he is he's an incredible interviewer yeah absolutely i assume aiden doherty hey buddy thank you for chiming in part one of many how hey coy john and greg i know you guys generally don't consume comic youtube videos but if you get a chance
Starting point is 02:16:02 you should listen to high top films breakdown on what he thinks man of tomorrow i have it's a great video part two it's his i love high top films and film speak yeah you've turned me on to high top films and I think you must have put film speak in our algorithm because I've been listening up for a while too Part two, it's his most recent vid and it's such a well-made video and it introduced me to him.
Starting point is 02:16:25 Very good points he made in it. Happy Friday. That was your introduction to High Top films. What a great introduction. Man, he's a very passionate guy. I know you don't watch a lot of YouTube videos, Koi. There are video essay channels that I think you would really like, and I think High Top...
Starting point is 02:16:40 I don't know if the appearance. opinion you guys are just kind of similar in energy both are i don't know actually i think i i wonder that's a real hit or miss for me i generally don't like consuming the content i make so if someone similar to me that's usually the thing i'm most put off by but it's their their video essays with remarkable editing as well yeah it is they're like mini docs that's cool i mean that is the youtube i do consume but it's usually about like philosophy or psychology or like the state of a and industry more than like the stuff that I like comic book YouTube and comic book TikTok don't really interest me because I'm consuming so many comic books and like it's like with
Starting point is 02:17:22 movies I don't really care about other people's opinions because I don't want it to inform my own so I just generally don't even if it's beautiful and well made and whatever I just generally am not as drawn to I saw a video last night called I think it was called grow up Leonardo DiCaprio and it is a wild like 20 minute video that shined a light that I had never actually quite seen before where he's essentially going through his whole career and the personal life stuff that is constantly in the limelight for him starting from when he's a child that's going in chronological order and it's showing how like at 32 when he did Titanic he's just kind of had stuck there in his personal life, but he grows up as an adult in the characters he
Starting point is 02:18:10 plays. And as he kept on, like, he's, he's so right. The DiCaprio starts off just playing children, young guys, to independent, aggressive guys, to then people who are getting married and then now he's playing fathers, you know, like he's, he's growing, he's actually maturing and growing up. He plays married couples. All the things DeCaprio is not. He's been rich young bachelor guy and he's in his 50s now yeah this hasn't changed at all in that respect but he
Starting point is 02:18:42 has the biggest life experiences on camera on camera through these characters and it is weird because he start to I start to question does he not choose to do these things in his personal life because of the experiences his characters go through in these movies
Starting point is 02:18:57 you know I just don't know if he has an opportunity to grow if he's always on camera like if he's always working and if he's always being told how great he is like how do you trust people no yeah that's why i mean he's like praised a lot when he did what's eating gilbert grape and then titanic he's been famous his whole life how do you trust someone likes you or do they like the idea of leonard decaprio yeah that'd be so hard to navigate that's why he's like i only got a day 23 year olds for six months and i'm moving on well they are the least likely to know who he is off but you know it's weird because he's so good at
Starting point is 02:19:33 playing adults adults he's so good at playing people in relationships the merry like freaking uh i was reminded a revolutionary road god he's good he's amazing in that movie and and and in one battle after another him as a father he's sensational he's so believable i'm like oh i i would he seems like this man has raised a child yeah he seems like a guy who would be a dad yeah i uh it's wild how good he is at that and he still seems like stuck at the same age the weirdest part of one battle after another for me has been seeing him do podcast interviews and seeing him Leo with headphones on and microphone looks like, it looks like a caveman
Starting point is 02:20:07 like photo show. He has the opposite of iPhone face. There's something about like a true movie star on a podcast that looks so fake to me. It like just feels uncomfortable. Like Brad Pitt did um, Dax's show. Yeah, that was good. It was great. But like he's on a couch. He doesn't have like, but like
Starting point is 02:20:23 seeing him do a Zoom interview with headphones on. Oh, yeah. Taylor yeah. Not Taylor. Taylor Swift's husband's podcast. Oh my God. What's this fucking. Travis Travis Travis and the other The show where it's like an hour
Starting point is 02:20:37 of sports news and then an hour interview with the celebrity Yeah But like it looks so weird To see him on a Zoom Benicia with headphones on I was like this is not
Starting point is 02:20:44 This feels uncomfortable He's uh he's really good man He's cool He's a fucking great actor Yeah We like Leah acting Yeah we do We love it
Starting point is 02:20:54 I know some people really don't like Leo still I'm like I don't know I love him Even if I don't feel like I I even if I still feel like I'm looking at Leo like I don't care he's real good to be in Leo
Starting point is 02:21:06 yeah he's really good at it's really good at changing the volume of him Leo to Capriio over here just like it's Leo then it becomes the spider man man I really love how he's playing characters that are not anything like his experience like he's he's not playing cool people yeah he's playing the exact opposite of someone
Starting point is 02:21:26 for like four movies in a row yeah after playing the coolest guys go it's been all unflattered yeah i mean a wolf of wall street was like the most uh i'm cool but i'm broken and then it's been just broken sense yeah yeah like he had the facade in wolf of wall street then it broke and it stayed broke yeah lifted on the floor in a puddle of quailu drool honestly what he did in killers of the flower moon was the most believable human in that regard to me have you seen it yeah you know because he he he's just like an idiot yeah and i bought that in a very real way yeah and uh yeah i i it's it is fascinating and what a deplorable idiot it's such a tricky role
Starting point is 02:22:09 yeah the things he does are so awful but he's so dumb you're like who's fault no he's still doing it yeah it's really interesting choices taken and and somehow still makes it a compelling leading character right like his like what he does in and one battle after another is so easily a slip into unwatchable and unlikable but he finds a way to be a movie star in that role yeah He's really fucking good. I think he should get an Oscar nomination for this movie. I hope Anisho gets an odd. I hope Chase Infinity gets some love with some awards.
Starting point is 02:22:40 I think this movie's so good. Because the trailers and the promotional stuff only show you what he's like for, you know, with the mustache and everything as an aging father. But the movie actually spends a good amount of time with him before he's all that, like like 10 to 16 years before that. Yeah. So you really get to.
Starting point is 02:23:01 see him transform from who he was to the main person you're following now to then who that guy transforms to by the end of that movie you know dude and Sean Penn as a villain like I think Sean Penn the nod like he's so good I think it's his best since dead man walking he's incredible and he's been on a run he's incredible yeah somebody who's in Seattle CAO in the chat said he's morphing into Jack Nicholson oddly enough I thought that in the departed now I really see it I think he's got so much more oh he's more range for sure but visually like jack no sorry jack nicholson i mean it was like no but yeah i mean jack nickleson's in the chat he's mad sorry jack now i think yeah decaprio really submerges himself
Starting point is 02:23:42 into true character study yeah jack nicholson has the more of the i think the free spirit of like make this around me following intuitive choices in the moment it feels unpredictable yeah yeah which is a massive skill and a comfort level of confidence that is very much a magnetic pull. I love The Departed so much. That is my favorite Scoresi. Me too. People get getting a lot of crap. It's good to hear. I get crap too
Starting point is 02:24:09 for that. Because it's not fucking good fellows were taxing forever. The Departon's amazing. You're the first person I've heard say that other than me getting yelled at. I've seen departed. Weirdly, I forget to mention that. I've seen departed an unusual amount of times. It is one of those movies that I could,
Starting point is 02:24:27 You could start at any point if it just happens to be on in the 30-minute mark, an hour mark. It's so good. Starts from the beginning. Can't turn the depart of it off. It is an incredibly entertaining movie. People have said that Scorsese won as just a legacy award. No, that movie's exceptional. And those performances and the story itself and the direct, now, those people are wrong.
Starting point is 02:24:47 The movie's incredible. Have you seen the part of it, John? I have seen it. It's been a long time. I saw it in film studies in high school. Oh, wow. Dude, rewatch it just as a person. my favorite DeCaprio performance
Starting point is 02:24:59 Yeah My favorite Mark Walbert My favorite DeCaprio My favorite now Alec Baldwin Baldwin yeah Fear Fermaig is amazing in it Matt Damon's great in it
Starting point is 02:25:06 That Damon's incredible That movie's so good Martin Shee Martin Sheen Movie's so good I'm gonna watch that I parted now Yeah that was that was the Because Decapreo had a little era
Starting point is 02:25:18 of like Mr. Paranoid guy I'm the intense guy I mean Terry Yeah yeah And that was the best That was the best of that Because he's playing him and Matt Damon switch in such a wonderful way.
Starting point is 02:25:30 Their roles in performance because of the story. Oh, it's so good. I really believed him in that movie. That was the, because he did gangs in New York. And I still saw DiCaprio a lot. That's one I've never seen. It's a good one. Aviator 2 was like a performance to me where,
Starting point is 02:25:51 yep, I see the acting choices. Catch me if you can, it was a little bit. It was still Leo, but I was starting to see, you know, Drifting, but departed. Departed was when I saw the man. Yeah. You know, that's what he's doing the thing. You see him become a man in prison.
Starting point is 02:26:06 That was the first time I really saw him as like a man. Yeah. Well, hopefully none of my grooms went are watching, but I'm thinking about doing my bachelor party in Boston so I could take him on the departed tour. I could show you like where everything is. And people also, that'd be cool.
Starting point is 02:26:19 Because I figured no one of my West Coast friends will ever go to Boston unless I give them a reason to. Sure. And that'd be fun to like do a bachelor party in Boston. And departed's like, like, we could go. most of those places. That'd be so cool. Yeah, and it's based off Whitey.
Starting point is 02:26:31 I mean, Jack Nicholson plays, yeah, yeah, we can ship up to Boston. But Jack Nicholson plays like a Whitey Bulger parallel and those like people were people I, I wasn't ever like around Whitey, but like they were one-of-ways. So that whole culture was fascinating
Starting point is 02:26:44 watching that from Boston because I watched that in Boston. Johnny Depp's last amazing performance. Yes, dude, Black Mask is so good. Grindlewold. Obviously. I like them as Grindlewold. I did too.
Starting point is 02:26:56 I like Colin Farrell's Grindle. Spiders Laton in the chat says Leo should play Old Man Spider-Man. Dude, he almost was Spider-Man for James Cameron, and I got tricked by a, I didn't know what the word parody was, because this happened in like 1998, but my favorite magazine,
Starting point is 02:27:12 Wizard magazine, had an ad on the back that was a painting, like a Star Wars style painting of Leonardo DiCaprio Spider-Man poster, where it was Leo in one half and Spider-Bad the other half, and it was this legit-looking poster, Star Wars style, and then a tiny font on the bottom it said parody and for an entire year I'd go to the movie theater
Starting point is 02:27:30 and ask them where the Spider-Man poster was and that movie doesn't exist and it broke my heart because Spider-Man didn't come out until like 2002 so for four years I thought Leo was playing Spider-Man broke my heart true story I was 10 broke me all right I got invited to that thing you invited me to hey ohpa also real quick what my favorite Warner Brothers rap is leaving Warner Brothers no no we gotta get them on the show damn it that's a bummer prepared to not be invited
Starting point is 02:28:03 or anything again all right what's next up here wow we just left Disney we really got to hear about Disney silence I hope people left Disney a couple of reps
Starting point is 02:28:12 I know someone who works at Disney when that Jimmy Kimmel shit was going down yeah he said it was he was telling me what it was like on the on the floor I heard some stuff
Starting point is 02:28:23 like oh man those 36 hours I heard some The employees were not liking it. Uh-huh. I know people that left. Yeah, a lot of people left, yeah. So, yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:35 I mean, people looking up how to cancel your Disney Plus subscription was a real top search. I canceled mine. Like, I don't have Disney Plus anymore. I didn't cancel money. I was like, and then they got up the prices and I was like, and even easier now. And I'm glad Jimmy Kimmel came back when we bought Fantastic Four. I actually thought that with Marvel Zombies because we got the screeners
Starting point is 02:29:03 so we saw Marvel Zombies first I was like I don't want to share this and then he came back and I was like sharing Marvel Zombies All right Thank you Nathan Pendleton Who is next in our queue Nathan says caught stealing is deaf in my top 10
Starting point is 02:29:18 Anybody to see it? Is it yours? I saw it's not my top 10 I liked it to my top 20 Like I liked it but um you know enough flaws and it made a really bold swing that worked for me somewhat but in other ways didn't work for me enough that I was like and it pulled me out enough that the movie got thrown off so doesn't stick the landing in the ways I wanted but I love the experience of watching it so 20 not 10 yeah I'll watch it at some point it's fun yeah it's definitely a guy richie take from
Starting point is 02:29:47 darren Aronovsky and I love both those directors a little bit darker definitely darker well I mean Darren's pretty Aronovsky's pretty dark yeah I'm saying no I'm saying oh it's like a darker Guy Ritchie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that, like, cacophonous energy is really fun. You can always count on Darren Roshky to be... Dark as shit. A depressing-ass individual. And that is a thing that happens often enough in the movie that I was like, it's kind of mixing the fun of Guy Ritchie, but then you keep tanking it with your, like, darkness. Spirals into obsession.
Starting point is 02:30:15 Yeah, I was like, I was having fun. What thought we were here to have fun? And then it'll go back to fun and be like, but I'm sad now, bro. You're like, you made me sad. Do you see the whale? No. man that ending was a really messed me up really I think about that ending sometimes yeah yeah the subject matters wasn't for me when you find out it's an unbreakable sequel he's an actual whale
Starting point is 02:30:34 Jonah swallowed the whale she's hurting a human skin out caught stealing's in my top 100 of the year all right oh John had thoughts my top one 365 how many movies came out this year it's definitely in the top thousand No, I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 02:30:54 Droopy McCool. Droopy McCool. Loving Peacemaker, thank you for chiming in. And this new DCU, but wish we got less filler comedy in the last episode and more time with the characters uncovering clues. Seeing Lex was awesome. So much hype. Honestly, the humor a lot of time in this season has not been working for me as much.
Starting point is 02:31:18 But that moment when Vigilante has that switch, because there's all this I thought that was so good there's all this tension of what's this vigilante going to be is it going to be vigilante will this vigilante be a racist is it going to be a darker side
Starting point is 02:31:35 will our vigilante be shot and kill will he be attacked what's going to go on here and then when he goes no way it was a perfect break yeah we did the spy we did the spider we did the spider man
Starting point is 02:31:48 it was so fucking funny I thought this episode was funny in a natural way. There are articles out now about how like Spider-Man's canon as a fictional character in the TCU. I agree though. Some of the comedy hasn't hit
Starting point is 02:32:01 but this episode I would not say that about. Yeah, because I feel like this season's a lot sadder. So when the comedy's there, it feels like weirdly requisite. Like Tim Meadows, I think, is fucking genius. You know, the bird blindness jokes in the second episode. It took me three times to get bird blindness to work for me. Really?
Starting point is 02:32:18 Like the first time I was like, I don't know. And the second time I was like, eh. And the third time, I was like, okay, you come. When he's, yeah, when he's first brought up, I'm like, this is weird. Yeah, yeah. But when he's in, when he's trying to shoot the bird, I can't see that. That's so funny to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:31 That's when it really worked for me. I also love that bird blindness is like a key part of the story in a, in a show with Eagley. Like, that's just such a funny, preposterous thing that Eagley could be like a thwart to Timmo's character. Yeah, that was, that's a funny as, um, Timmy as brilliant. I think he's one of our most overlooked comedic comedians. he's so naturally funny him at the uh the peacemaker comic con panel was like a riot because
Starting point is 02:32:57 he would just say anything you're like that's genius like he's just so effortless yeah effortless is the keyboard i'm trying to say yeah that's the right word for it because he's one of those people who doesn't have to do much and he's fucking hilarious yeah but he also knows what he's doing what he's being funny curated like it's this took skill and you can tell they're skill in it but you don't feel it fucking walk hard is my favorite oh i should have brought that up of robert Patrick, because I asked Robert Patrick if he saw Walk Hard. You did. You guys touched on it. I know, but I should have
Starting point is 02:33:25 mentioned that, like, oh, but Tim Meadows is in that, and Tim Meadows has my favorite lines in it. Do you see Walk Hard? I saw it in theaters. Oh, man. I forgot Tim Meadows was in it. Tim Meadows. The guy's like, most iconic lines. He's got, Tim Meadows is the one who's like
Starting point is 02:33:39 When was that 20 years ago? He's always telling him, like, to not do drugs when he keeps answering. Oh, that's the Yeah. Get out of here, do we? And make sex even better. It turns all your bad feelings into good feelings. It's a nightmare.
Starting point is 02:33:56 No one does like... I forgot that was him because I didn't know Tim Meadows yet. No one does the issue. Yeah, no one does like anti-charisma the way he does. Like these unconfident like sad sack guys but who think they're kind of cool and like the way he's got one scene in episode six
Starting point is 02:34:11 A Peacemaker, but the way he comes in and just delivers like not the news anybody wanted is like so perfectly him. I love like everything at Mean Girls is perfect like that role is immaculate for him. I'm not too familiar with his SNL work though. Call your best friend Will Forte and get him to set up an interview. I do love Will 14.
Starting point is 02:34:30 Everyone watched the Will Forte interview. It's really good. It was an adjustment. Do you see a preview of it? I've seen like 10 minutes ago. It was in the car. Yeah. It was an adjustment. That threw me. I had to let go. Imagine three weeks of prepping every day. I take interview. I'm like you. I take interviews very, very serious.
Starting point is 02:34:49 I value people's time. No matter who it is, I'm going to like, I don't know how to do it without obsessing over. I have to learn everything about them. Yeah, I can't half. Because then I'm like, well, the one thing I didn't learn would have been useful. Yeah, yeah. I do obsess. I had an interview coming up that I'm super excited to do.
Starting point is 02:35:06 And yeah, it's been already like, I got it yesterday after hunting down to get this one. And then I realized, I haven't done any research. And now after the hunt, I acquired, oh, no, research. I have two days. oh wow i really do yeah it's on monday yeah i shoot it so i'm like oh my god i have two days to get all your weekend is yeah all righty well so that greg can prepare let's get through i think you go whoever's here i think you guys my worry is to say what it is and then for it to get canceled yeah i'm always i don't jinx it until i filmed it that is the that is the unfortunate
Starting point is 02:35:42 part of interviews is they are there's always a likelihood it gets canceled so this is one though where I'm like this, if I, if we, if it, if it, I think you guys will be really excited to see this one. You will. All righty. Thank you, Droopy McCool. Joshua J. Gonzalez's chiming in. I should bring this back.
Starting point is 02:36:02 Love. Love from Boston. Hey, Landon the Potted Kid. Y'all need to come to Boston soon. Thoughts on, funny you should say that. Thoughts on Savage Hulk in the new Spidey movie? I think he'll be Savage. I don't think he'll have anything.
Starting point is 02:36:18 doing killing Peter Parker's parents, but I do think we get him back as a monster. I think we need that. I think we've had Professor Hulk for a long time, and the fans want Hulk, and I think that's what's coming, and I love Boston. I got to be there for my birthday for the first time, or second time in 16 years since I moved. It was my second time in my hometown for my birthday, and it was pretty amazing, and I miss it dearly, so I am thinking of bringing the boys from the West Coast over there for my bachelor. So, yeah, I'm very excited.
Starting point is 02:36:44 It's good sitting. Damn. Well, I feel like we've expressed our opinion on this so much. I'll say that if this X, this Wolverine game pans out, I think it would be cool if they were able to pull off a Hulk. Game? A Hulk game, yeah. Ooh, that'd be fun.
Starting point is 02:37:00 That'd be really fun. That'd be awesome. I think that would actually enhance the desire for more Hulk. You have an anger meter. You've got to pay attention to it. Certain tasks, you've got to do his rage. Certain task you've got to do as Hulk. Yeah, you've got to calm down.
Starting point is 02:37:13 You've got to maintain rage. That's fun. Be a rageo meter. I think you can make a great cinematic story out of it. You get Fred Savage to do the mocap. Nice. Savage Hulk. All right.
Starting point is 02:37:25 Got it, got it. Thank you, Joshua. Robert Proicer, rehab blows, but what doesn't blow is you. But watching your guys' videos and streams help big time. Thank you for everything y'all do, and I hope you guys are having a good day. Love the latest episode of Peacemaker. Thank you so much, man. You're here a lot.
Starting point is 02:37:44 Are you in rehab? Hope all is well Are getting better It certainly sounds like I got homies out of rehab And they're doing a lot better from it So hopefully you get to Have that fall of suit
Starting point is 02:37:55 Keep persevering Keep walking that straight and narrow You know I've been in this 72-hour psych ward Three times In my life And you know what I think of when I'm there It is so fucking boring It's like
Starting point is 02:38:12 That's my feeling with it Is it 72 hours? hours because that's how long it like what's the reason behind the 72 hours is that how long you have to be self-admit i've never this when i was like in my um trying to watch my words here wanting to end life sure i'm not laughing at the subject i'm laughing at the fact that youtube i'm like when i was less far of my time on the mortal coil harming and moi i try not to say the c word Greg has to navigate that subject. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:44 And apparently they put you in seven hours to make sure you're like... That's the amount of time they feel comfortable about you thinking things through. Yeah. And you could take like a lot of classes there and stuff, but... So boring. I can't imagine. But if I have money to go to rehab, like a celebrity rehab, that looks amazing. It looks like an hour and...
Starting point is 02:39:04 It looks so cool. It looks like a vacation. Yeah, I want that. That was always looks so cool. Hopefully Robert Bruce is in a vacation. Drew Pinsky type of Ria. That sounds like on the Malibu Coast. I'm not trying to discourage you from Ria.
Starting point is 02:39:17 It's a great location to detail. If you're in a support system like that and you can actually detox and talk through your feet. A lot of times it's just about a lot of times it is sitting with your discomfort. And I think it's really important for a lot of people to find that and that is a place a lot of people do. So hopefully it works out for you. Getting comfortable sitting with your discomfort. Like I've been weirdly, I've been in a really good mood these last three days. and I've been listening to less,
Starting point is 02:39:43 this is nowhere near the caliber what you have to do for rehab, but I've listened to less audio and less music when I'm driving instead I just keep it quiet and I speak my thoughts out loud and I've noticed I've been much better because I'm able to process things
Starting point is 02:39:56 and talk to myself. Interesting. Instead of like, let's just keep consuming and keep trying to learn and get them more. I'm able to hear my thoughts and I'm able to talk to myself like when I'm going through something emotional
Starting point is 02:40:08 I can talk to myself as I'm talking to someone else. Yeah, it's been good. I feel like I'm in a randomly really good move to pass a couple days. It's a cool, like, task to try. Yeah. Try to hear your thoughts.
Starting point is 02:40:20 We love to hear that. Thank you, Robert Proicer, and, yeah, stay strong out there. Des, getting close to the end here. Des, thank you for chiming in. Can I get your guys top three favorite directors ever? Mine personally would be Villeneuve, Bond Segway, PTA, and Damien Shazze. Jazele.
Starting point is 02:40:42 Nice, Damien's Chiselle. Fincher. Comfortably Fincher. I think Deney now. I think with Dune 2, Deney is locked in, because I love prisoners so much. I love Dune. I love Blade Runner 249. Like, I think he's earned it with now Dune 2 not being like a fluke.
Starting point is 02:41:02 So Deney. I have to think about my third. Do you have three? Yeah. I have super cliche answers. Spielberg? Actually not. Tarantino,
Starting point is 02:41:16 Sourcée Z. Nolan, like, kind of easily for me. Yeah. Fincher's my only easy one. Fincher feels like a name that should be on my list. Because the other film bro names are. It's like,
Starting point is 02:41:32 Fincher's like consistently amazing. And there's only one movie of his I did not finish. The, uh, Mank. Yeah, Mank was the only one. Did not like. Mike. Mac was the only one.
Starting point is 02:41:41 I felt so uneducated. Yeah, I was so boring. I was like, am I a dumb person? No, is just fucking boring. You know,
Starting point is 02:41:46 sometimes they're boring ass movies out there, all right. I'm glad to hear that because I felt so bad about not loving it that I was like, no, it's fine.
Starting point is 02:41:55 And then like over time, I was like, I really didn't like it. When you're an otter enough to the point where people stop saying, no, you'll get a boring movie.
Starting point is 02:42:01 Inevitably, yeah, you'll get your masturbatory art house film. Like my, Olivia, my wife Olivia, her favorite film,
Starting point is 02:42:09 films easily black and white movies classic cinema that era yeah on you too i don't we we tried watch we try just want to throw this in there i don't get it okay women okay ladies of our lives yeah people i love dearly i don't get it whose taste i admire other than this taste i don't get i respect you except that no i love um there's a pleasantry to it the so we put on mink because we were both excited for it she especially because of the era it's honoring 100% and we were so fucking poor i think it's a boring ass film i'm gonna look at my favorite films and see if i can think
Starting point is 02:42:56 the third director when you get that let's go what's the next question though but right now uh yeah i would say those three for sure yeah i would say rob zombie i would say john carpenter and i would say Christopher Nolan. I want to say Nolan, but it feels so easy, but it might be Nolan. I think it might be Nolan, Denny, and Fincher. I think you just got to follow your heart, man. Like, I like every fucking Nolan movie. Yeah, that's the problem.
Starting point is 02:43:17 I like everyone. I like every Tarantino movie. Even the one that I'm not too keen on, hateful eight, I admire so much about it. Tarantino might be in there for me. And Scorsese, a thousand percent, like, my God, I was just saying to parted is one of the most, yeah. I want to give Ben Affle. his flowers because I feel like he's not appreciated enough because he's an actor, but I think he's
Starting point is 02:43:39 such a good director. But he's not my favorite. Martin McDonough hasn't done enough yet, but I think Martin McDonough could get there. Cameron's great, but like, I really don't like the Avatar movies. So, like, those are his thing. So yeah, I think it's Nolan, Denny, and Fincher. All right, I'm adjusting. It's John Carpenter, Rob Zombie, and Panos Cosmatos. We got there. Who's Panos Cosmatos? Mandy and Beyond the Black Rainbow. Not a big enough filmog, so Chris, no one might still wind up. I was going to say, Mark McDonough's done imbrews and banshees, but I mean, any more.
Starting point is 02:44:11 All right. Chris Etchels, thank you for the super sticker. A little devil there. Thank you. We are just about to the end. We have a couple more stream labs. Okay. We will be Scott free, like Ridley Scott.
Starting point is 02:44:28 Yes, Surrey Barbarino. Here we go. Streamlabs are back. All right, world's finest Y.T. What if Hugo Strange Do use Calendar Man to kill on dates Only Bruce Wayne knows In The Batman Part 2?
Starting point is 02:44:43 Oh, so you're like long Halloweening it in a way? Yeah, and also making it a Bruce Wayne story Because that's what they've said This will be Matt Reads and says it's a Bruce Wayne-centric story We haven't seen Calendar Man I don't think that's the way they'd go, but that's a fun idea. Sean Gunn Yeah
Starting point is 02:44:58 Was Calendar Man in the Suicide Squad. And you really got a sense of who Calendar Man was by him standing there with the calendar. Even though Hush is set up, yeah, I really don't want Hush. I think it's court of owls. I feel like you should set up court of owls in this. I agree. And then, and then pay it off.
Starting point is 02:45:18 In three. That's so big. Yeah. But no, that's a great pitch for Hugo Strange in a way. I think Hugo Strange would be a perfect. I think Matt Reeves would note. Oh, my God. With Hugo Strange.
Starting point is 02:45:29 You know, it'd be a great Hugo Strange, but he's got to probably work for James Goh. Dave Batista. you think he him man blade runner 2049 that opening his physical and is like he's so scarily intellectual but a huge I think david needs to be a really cool hugo strange I just want Tremel Tillman for everything ever since he started severance a month ago you have a great hugo strange but it might feel too akin I think his take might be very similar it would be yeah it might have a similar thing and then he's doing the that he's that he's a new john carlos If we're doing the same, Michael C. Hall would be a really good Hugo Strange.
Starting point is 02:46:05 He would, yeah. Oddly Brainiacs would be good Hugo Stranges. That's true. Thanks for that. Heck, yeah. All righty. Next up, Kyle, thank you for chiming in so generously. Question for Coy and John, Greg, leave the room.
Starting point is 02:46:22 Have you guys seen Batman-Superman Public Enemies or Batman-Superman Apocalypse? I don't think you guys reacted to this. We did not do those yet. we did. And I wasn't watching them off off work. I know we didn't do public enemies and I don't think we did. We should have you guys. We should put that on the list. I think those are both two of the most
Starting point is 02:46:40 requested because those sound familiar. We should do that. We'll do those. You were the one that pushed it through by the way because everyone's been asking but I kept, yeah, yes. And then the question continues. The relationship between Batman and Superman in those movies, especially in public enemies is exactly what I want in James' DC.
Starting point is 02:46:57 What got me into D.C. Oh, I love to hear. Okay, that's very inspired reason to watch them. Love to hear it. I would love to. I think for sure, Batman's your map public enemies. I should find a spot for that in an upload schedule that I have mapped out for the next three months. Dude, it's crazy when you know how far they're mapping.
Starting point is 02:47:14 It's crazy. 2026 is apparently here. The ingenuity is wild. Also, shouts out to KG in the chat. Yes, I'm updating it a third time. It's John Carpenter, Rob Zombie, David Lynch. Oh, he's a Lynch boy. There we go.
Starting point is 02:47:26 I got to see a couple of the most essentials still, but from what I've seen, definitely going to be a fave director. All right, Ragged Rec, you're up. It's the last one. Then we got a sticker, and then we're done. Catching the stream
Starting point is 02:47:39 late tonight, GMT. I believe you're in the UK. Oh, hell yeah, buddy. Happy Friday, gents. How a great... It's like 11 p.m. for you there, man. That's crazy. Happy Friday, gents.
Starting point is 02:47:48 Have a great weekend. What would you like to see PTA, Paul Thomas Anderson, the Parent Teacher Association, direct in Marvel or the DCU? you can just hear them are they watching it yeah i don't know if only we can hear them
Starting point is 02:48:09 i don't know if the mics are picking it up violent in here you're just like freak it out it sounds like andrew's having an organ yeah no it sounded like oh pin it white you'll get wet too um
Starting point is 02:48:25 we all down here the self-censor in person was great i got to see it um pta has such a unique voice and it's hard to pinpoint it down because like boogie nights there will be blood punch drunk love one battle after another they're all very different but all feel like him that is a hard one and i want him to write in direct he'd have to write it too i think he's really good with ensemble pieces you know i get to work for him once i did not know that It was a session honor.
Starting point is 02:49:00 I got to do a oneer on a PTA film. I got to do like the trademark like long tracking shot, a PTA movie. Which one? Inhert Vice. I haven't seen that one. I was one of the cops in Inherent Vice. It's a little underrated.
Starting point is 02:49:12 Yeah, I mean, like I'm not like visible. I'm not like a guy. You'll be like, oh, it's cool. But I'd have to be traced as a oneer with a bunch of cops jumping into a pool with Paul Thomas Anderson. Got directed by him directly. So I got to work with him for two days straight and like see the level of minutia in detail. We shot, this relates to what I was going to say for,
Starting point is 02:49:29 character. We shot a scene where it literally is following a cop and then it follows another cop and then it follows me for a little bit and then I jump in a pool and then I come out take my shirt off, go up, grab a burger, take a bite and then it cuts and we shot it over two days and at one point we got the perfect timing. All the cops got in at the right time. It was this
Starting point is 02:49:46 amazing moment. We were all like, yeah! And he's like we're going to do one more time. Got to move the grill. And he gets up and he moves the grill two inches. Like at an angle we're all like if it wasn't PTA this would be upsetting but I know it's going to be worth it. And then we watched playback, we were like the grill, two inches. And it was the funniest thing that we were all just like, whatever the man needs. Because everyone had to get dried off.
Starting point is 02:50:06 Everyone had to reset. Like we're getting into water. So a reset takes like an hour. It's all the wardrobe and stuff. And that two inches actually made the shot better. Like you could see a difference because of his vision because of the way he pushed through. It looked like it was jutting out too much. And it made plausible deniability.
Starting point is 02:50:19 The cop walking around did not work. And the man saw a two inch shift and like changed the scene. Like he is a genius. And in that vein, Batman. Eternals. I think he could do a bat family and I think he could do a really cool detective story that would be about
Starting point is 02:50:36 like Gotham and crime and grit and I think like I know we have a lot of Batman but I think PTA would be really cool and different. He has expressed direct interest in Teen Titan so that includes bat family members. Nightwing, obviously. Yeah, it would have to be an ensemble.
Starting point is 02:50:53 That's why it doesn't have to be. Strangely enough, even though they're making it, I think he would have pulled off an incredible Clayface movie. I think he absolutely would have done it. He's really, if he's not doing an ensemble,
Starting point is 02:51:07 he's really good at singular focus on one person's transformation. He might do a great authority. Like a commentary on superheroes. From the little I know I can see that. Big ensemble, very bold characters, very nuanced.
Starting point is 02:51:27 takes on big subject matter like almost magnolia-esque i'm trying to think of one where he really could do something that would be commercially available but allow for the weird idiosyncrasies that that man provides yeah oh man that is a hard one because one battle after another is an action movie it's his most mainstream film but it's so much a like a weird pta version of an action movie because it's not like cool gun fights and stuff it's mainly a chase movie yeah and the chases are inventive yeah different
Starting point is 02:52:05 you know what's funny is I just started Googling this out of curiosity and I found a Reddit thread in which somebody name checked planetary for this question oh that's so specific as well as the authority oh so okay someone's on the same page it's definitely that kind of heady commentary on
Starting point is 02:52:21 superhero stuff ensemble like he would have done a great boys before they made the show yeah yeah he would have that kind of thing god that's hard you really want to get like a right answer yeah I'm like a mic stumped is this how it happens
Starting point is 02:52:40 ain't it funny how it happens I think Aaron Austin would make a great Hulk movie even though that is not the question let me say other good directors and what would pair well I'm gonna I'm gonna go authority because I do think he'd do a really good job with the leads and build out the world and be interesting commentary and I think he could cast it really well. I think Hugo Strange running Arkham Asylum. Oh, I think you
Starting point is 02:53:08 do an awesome job with that. Leo is Hugo or Daniel Day Lewis. Yeah, I feel I feel good about these. Or Joaquin. Oh, Joaquin is Hugo String to be great. It would be. Him as a Batman that happened for Darren Aronovsky would have been special. Yeah. Yeah. He was like that close. Yeah, that sounds like a great movie. Would have not been a light, but it's totally No, no, it might have ruined Batman for another 10 years, but I would have loved to see it. It would not have brought Batman back.
Starting point is 02:53:35 No, not at all. It wouldn't have been, actually, I think if he had done Batman, we wouldn't have the Marvel universe. Because we wouldn't have gotten Dark Night, which wouldn't have inspired them to start making Marvel. Like, that might have changed all of our careers. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:49 Yeah, we'll go with that. I'm going to go with that one is my pick. John, yeah, Mike. All righty. close us out. Alex Nunez sent us a little sticker here, a little pair guy that says, cool. You guys are freaking cool.
Starting point is 02:54:05 As are all of you guys in the chat. And yes, Land O.B., you are correct. Thank you. All right, on that note. We have reached the summit. A lot of people want the bat fam in the
Starting point is 02:54:21 main chat for P.T. Anderson. And yes, people can hear Tara and Andrew. amazing verified and don't forget to talk about james bond says yeah hey it's thanatos all right we'll end it off really quick because we got a lot of other things to handle today um james bond so the main report is that they are looking for new actors and it's already starting film expect to come out 2028 going off memory here the main thing that's been reported on is that it'll probably focus on him in his navy years interesting which does not that was the
Starting point is 02:54:57 one part of it where I went, if they do that, I'm not particularly interested in this. Yeah, because Tom Holland was rumored and I was like, I don't think I want a young bond. And now it sounds like no, Tom Holland, but still young bond. He said he wants someone where, I forgot exactly what the quote is, but I'm not mistaken. It was something along the lines of you have to immediately feel like this man can kill you. And that is not Tom Holland. Not the Tom Holland I've worked with. No, it's not, it's not Tom Holland.
Starting point is 02:55:24 I just don't feel like he has that presence. But anyway, yeah, that was the main speculation. Maybe young, I don't know if I see Donald James Bond as a young man. I don't really know what I want out of this, though. What do you want out of this for a plot? I love Daniel Craig's Bond the most. I haven't seen 80% of other bonds, though. So, like, my association with Bond is gold and I,
Starting point is 02:55:54 Tomorrow Never Dies, Clips of Sean Connery, and all of Daniel Craig. So my exposure is so limited that when I say my favorite bond, I don't really have a comparison. I think a James Bond that feels like a Jason Bourne is way more my speed than like hokey, Adam West, you know, money, penny weird names. Like I don't know. So I think making it like a spy thriller is the move, but I see someone in their 20s and 30s, not like. a late teen early 20 doesn't really seem like bond to me and an origin story always feels false even if we're not going to I mean if they're casting for 20 years
Starting point is 02:56:32 yeah I feel like they want to set it up where they can do it again where we just keep bond going forever yeah the way because it seems like they close a specific chapter yeah and now we're going to take a new direction and they want to do spinoffs and they want to because it's Amazon yeah from the impression I'm getting from these reports is that it probably might do one of those dual stories
Starting point is 02:56:54 like going through the origins and then going through the modern day mission and which one are you casting though for 20 years yeah you need someone who's like can be the young person but if they're close in age just keep one person do you mean you don't cast a 25 year old
Starting point is 02:57:09 than a 30 year old and you're like you're like weird I thought I would have more to say about this I'm Bond curious but I mainly no bond from Daniel Craig which I love but that's that's a one type of him who would be a good bond today Richard Madden damn that's good pick shit
Starting point is 02:57:34 that's right away that's a really good pick I think Richard Madden that's a really good pick I think Richard Madden be exceptional yeah that holy shit man that's kind of hard not to imagine yeah yeah he would be a really good pick who I want yeah I got nothing I don't know why I wanted to talk about this. I don't really have anything to add to today's conversation. Is there anything else about him that anything from that report that I'm totally missing?
Starting point is 02:58:01 Denise, let me just type in his name. Denise Villene Harris Dickinson, some people are thrown out there. Patrick Gibson or Jack Loden. I'm still excited because of it could be an origins from deadline. It could be an origin story about
Starting point is 02:58:18 how he got recruited to MI6 and a 1007 status. That sounds more of my speed. I mean, I feel like we've, haven't we seen that? Haven't there been a moment where he's like, now you're a double O? Yeah. Wasn't that in Daniel Craig? It's the opening of Casino.
Starting point is 02:58:32 Oh, okay. I thought I'd seen that. But it's not a journey to that. I'm okay with that. As long as it's not like young skipper, James Bond, Jimmy Bond. Well, they're saying they wanted to be a fresh-faced British actor likely in his late 20s or early 30s. That's what I want.
Starting point is 02:58:51 So I think it would be cool to watch him become darker through the course of the movie. But that would be unique. I was afraid you meant like, you know, young Navy recruit. That sounds more like seasoned, like late 20s, early 30s isn't fresh-faced and late 20s are different things. Yeah. I would like to see him get psychologically affected. You know, like the Casino Royale explores how he became detached from love. Right.
Starting point is 02:59:17 And it really does that. journey where he becomes a real cold-hearted with the relationships but i would love to see the journey of him starting off as like an aspiring agent right and then looking at the dissent that happens to the course of this and i think denny feel yeah like that's very much what denny does with his psychology yeah if you think any of his like cool movies they're they're usually the main character goes through some type of horrible i also almost don't care who's cast because it's dene i think you can pull out whatever in any you know i mean like Whoever he gets, I trust.
Starting point is 02:59:52 Austin Butler. Why not? No, he's American. James Bond. Yeah. Give me a ball of martin. It's a key source says. Whoever it is has to look like he could kill you with his bare hands in a trice.
Starting point is 03:00:07 All right. Tom Holland. Yeah, Tom Holland. Yeah, sure. But yeah, I mean, I'm excited because it's Deni. I think the rest is just details. All right. The rest is just Denny tales.
Starting point is 03:00:19 We did it, guys. We ended on a pun. All right. Well, we got more to do. We got to go film next to them. I appreciate so much for everyone who has been here. And I'm glad we could have an extra long one today. Normally, we want to end these by 2 p.m. so like an hour ago. But we went in today knowing that this one will be longer. So thank you guys so much who have been here the entire time.
Starting point is 03:00:44 If you're hopping in late, go to the playback, rewind. talked about a lot of really fun, good stuff. Thank you guys so much for being here. Thank you, John. Thank you, Coy. Thanks again, a praper team for sending me my gifts. And thanks, so I'll contribute to our stream labs and super chats. That's okay if you did not.
Starting point is 03:01:00 If you could leave a like, that's all we really would want from you in this moment in time. See you, Reject Nation. Let me stretch a little bit. You know, I'm going to You know, I'm going to
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