The Reel Rejects - AVENGERS DOOMSDAY: Reacting To The Cast Announcements!!

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

AVENGERS VS X-MEN?! Avengers: Doomsday Cast Revealed "Now In Production" Cast Announce Reaction, Breakdown, & Theories in today's episode! Marvel Studios has officially unveiled the star-studded cast ...for Avengers: Doomsday, set to release on May 1, 2026. The ensemble features a blend of returning favorites and exciting new additions: Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Anthony Mackie as Captain America, Tom Hiddleston as Loki, Paul Rudd as Ant-Man, Letitia Wright as Shuri / Black Panther, Simu Liu as Shang-Chi, Florence Pugh as Yelena Belova, Patrick Stewart as Professor X, Ian McKellen as Magneto, James Marsden as Cyclops, Alan Cumming as Nightcrawler, Rebecca Romijn as Mystique, Kelsey Grammer as Beast, Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards, Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm, Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm, Ebon Moss-Bachrach as Ben Grimm, Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom. Notably absent from the Avengers: Doomsday casting announcement are several major MCU characters and actors fans were hoping to see, including Tom Holland as Spider-Man, Benedict Cumberbatch as Doctor Strange, Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner / Hulk, Brie Larson as Carol Danvers / Captain Marvel, Elizabeth Olsen as Wanda Maximoff / Scarlet Witch, Paul Bettany as Vision, Oscar Isaac as Marc Spector / Moon Knight, and Mahershala Ali as Blade - perhaps theyll appear in Secret Wars! Meanwhile Disney Television has Daredevil Born Again, Moon Knight, possibly Ghost Rider as well! Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Follow Coy Jandreau:  Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Celebrate in a fashion responsible. You have to have the age legal for consuming thank you to huell for sponsoring this video more on them in just a bit coy yes you chose a wonderful week to come back to america wow did you choose the right week to come back within hours of landing for this real rejects moving news podcast amazing timing first thing of shot since i got back nothing could be more perfect man yes nothing ladies and gentlemen today we're going to be talking of course about the avengers doomsday cast list reveal and i figured you there's like three ways we can do it okay obviously we'll go i figured we can go through in order
Starting point is 00:01:02 of how they revealed it we could also talk about who we thought might have been on the list but wasn't okay and then we could talk about um this strange marketing ploy they put right before we filmed i was like coy here's all do it okay i'm gonna pull up the live stream we'll just go hop it's like every 10 minutes and then they released a minute and 47 oh wait they officially there they did on their official channel minute 47 second it is the weird it's theirs it's theirs it's theirs It's, this is simultaneously the most boring and most fascinating way to do. They dominated the news cycle. They did.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Like the DMV. Yes. You're looking at chairs. The only place I look at the back of chairs is the DMV. Yeah. This is the weirdest moke, like lackluster, but also it worked. It's boring, waiting for a hit of dopamine. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:01:48 And everyone was there all. So many people I know were there all day. Hundreds of thousands of people watch seats. Complaining. Complaining. But they stuck around. In the thing, adding engagement, adding engagement. Now, I admittedly watched this morning, I woke up, and you and I were texting between eight and nine.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I saw those names. I did an hour of coverage thinking it would end within three hours. No, no, no. So I have admittedly seen up until 1145. It went on another, I think I only caught the first half. So I just want to be fair to our audience that I have seen some names, but I didn't want to see the big names because we decided to do this. Hmm. speaking of that then you knew this going in if you can don't act like I'm lying to you I'm not I'm not that's not what I'm doing at all I want to be hey what's in the shot here this is cool this is some new stuff oh hey that's cool little sound booth yeah at some point in the show someone's just going to stand right there and start recording something some VO they're going to read the names they're going to read all of them there's one of a voiceover actor Lauren's Fishburn I added the director's chair and tribute to the
Starting point is 00:02:55 Okay. Actually, that is funny for the first time that's in the shot. That's very funny. It says Avengers Doom's Day in the back of that chair. It's just all the names. I was going to ask if you could, if you could allow me some grace to speak for about like a minute or two on us being here today before we go into everything. Now that we've established what we're going to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I have this habit of when I start to speak. I think primarily with you and John, I rush a little bit because I'm worried I'm going to be like in a or something. And I thought about this earlier. And it's not really to do with you guys. It's this accountability I have to take on my own end. One is, I think you guys are such both great speakers. There's this insecurity that comes out of me. So I start rushing and I start saying a lot of and ums. And I'm someone who in conversation who kind of embraces a bit of the silence. Generally, yeah, but I notice sometimes when we're recording, I do that. So that's why I'm asking for the grace. Or perhaps you interrupt because I have nothing really interesting
Starting point is 00:03:54 But, no, I think there's the other side, too, where you're perhaps, I hope the editors get that as I'm talking about. I was like, who? I was going to explain myself. I literally was like a DJ right there. I was afraid I forget what I'm going to say. That's why I interrupt. That's why I interrupt too. That's another thing.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Hold it. Yes. Hold it. That's why I normally have my journal because I'm insecure that I'm not going to remember what I'm going to say. Yeah. And it distracts me from listening. sometimes. So I want to get it out. However, whatever reasons there are, I wanted to express this before we film today. All three of us individually have had very particularly challenging days
Starting point is 00:04:38 today, all three of us. John is very much an essential part of this operation of this moving news podcast. And I appreciate the readjustment all of us have had. Normally we upload these on Fridays, and normally we do multiple stories. Today we're going to do just one. Today, it really dawned on me. I knew how much I personally cared about this show that we're doing. I already knew that. It really hit me even more so today. I kind of had a rocky two moment as I told you in text message because one of my insecurities with you guys in particular is I have this envy that both of you, even if you guys barely get any sleep, I know this from living with John for a couple years. You guys can get like two hours of sleep. You roll out of bed and you guys are like,
Starting point is 00:05:24 I'm exhausted. I'm a zombie. Then the camera hits record and you guys are just flowing and fluid. And man, you guys sound so smart and articulate. I don't have that skill. I feel like I have to do so much generally. So before it was, you know, a lot of doing more adderol than what was prescribed to me. It was, you know, a lot of Cheech and Chong greens. It was a lot of that in order to function. And now I have to meditate and exercise before I do that. Today I didn't get to do any of that. I was at the ER with my wife all day. And it was a very interesting. interesting time. So I stopped listening to the news thing around Ian McKellen time because I hadn't gotten him yet. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. So that's one I know. And actually I assume that explains now I know a lot of context. Okay, go out, sir. So yeah, when it got to the Ian McKellen part, I found myself like, no, I should be here with my wife. And I was having that like push and pool of like, what am I doing? I'm getting distracted by something. So I like deleted the apps. And that's why there's something I don't know about. Yeah. But then when she was okay, it was like that Rocky 2 Adrian moment of win go have fun because Koi and I believe John too just as real
Starting point is 00:06:29 rejects as a whole we really believe movies and shows are an extension of our identities there's something that was telling you just yesterday that if there was a mission statement for real rejects I feel like it is about reminding people of the emotional connection of films and shows to storytelling because a lot of movie news feels like sports entertainment feels like wrestling or something like that. Yeah. And I'm very appreciative of the consistency of numbers that we get with this podcast for something that's brand new. I am very appreciative that even today I got a text message from a friend who's like, hey, I've been listening to this. This is great. And someone bumps in to me usually once a week who brings this up, this podcast. And I love getting that
Starting point is 00:07:09 validation for something that I feel like we will be doing without the validation already. Yeah. And I'm proud of it because I already feel like being able to feel our feelings and encourage people to express their feelings comes in the form of reactions and to be able to do that via through the dialogue of what we do here. It meant a lot that even in spite of the crazy days that we've had today, even though I couldn't do any of my routine to get into the proper state and I've had like kind of a really hard day with barely any sleep, I was very excited to come here to talk with you today. Yeah, man. I was very excited to do this. so I am much in a much better headspace to do this than a movie reaction which we had originally and like the movie we are going to watch I think I'm going to love because it's a director I love it's an actor like I'm excited for that movie so it's not like one of the ones where it's like
Starting point is 00:07:57 it's popular and you might or might not like it's one that I'm genuinely excited for I would rather do five hours of this than a two hour movie reaction even if I like just because this is my preferred medium I do all of the other things we do as a means to this like to me it's about conversation it's about the emotionality you get out of reactions i don't quite tap into as deep and we've talked about that a lot that's kind of how the show started was that lack of connection whereas when i have a conversation i find new things in dialogue that unearth emotions later so i love what we're doing is looking at it from the lens of why does it affect us how does it affect us what's the context to the individual versus a headline and that's what's so interesting
Starting point is 00:08:38 about this rollout is i'm of exactly two minds about it On one side, I think you should always find ways to be inventive. You should always find things that are to keep the audience attention. You should always have new things that are going to take over the cultural zeitgeist. I will literally never look at a director's chair the same way. I know. It has changed. Like, that's a great thing.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Like, the memes it writes itself. Like, you can make a shirt of this experience day one. That is genius. On the other side, the exact opposite is six hours of one camera move that is just pulling with sound effects added and 14, 12 to 14 minute gaps is insane, but it worked. It worked. So I'm, my, my love of publicity and the art of, of advertising side thinks it's genius. My respect for people's time does not.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Six hours is a school day. It's interesting, isn't it? Because when I was on, I refuse to call it X, when I was on Twitter, It was fascinating the development of Photoshop or most likely AI with how they were able to swap in other people's names so fast on those chairs. Did you see what I posted? No, what did you post? You know, the other format where it's actor confirmed and it's their role and then the Doomsday logo? I played Chris Pratt's little brother in a movie.
Starting point is 00:10:03 So I shared Star Lord's best man from Bride Wars confirmed for Avengers Doomsday with the same post that looks like a formal announcement of me being in Doomsday. And, like, so many people were like, wait, what? And I was like, yes. Right. I would see, like, Tom Cruise's name pop up and everything. Might be true. Might be true. I found myself going, really?
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yeah. I guess that's my point with the fascination behind this because it is such a idiotic way to, to me personally, offhand, this sounds so stupid to do it this way. And the fact that they even decided to release a two-minute version of something, they literally stretched out. It's like a season of one of their Disney Plus shows. They stretched it out into a five-hour live stream. But get the clicks on both. I think it's genius. Genius.
Starting point is 00:10:50 They literally had six hours of ad revenue. And then they were like, but we want the short one too. And did it themselves. They did it in a way where they allowed a conversation to happen. That was frustrating. But you could also see the tide turn when Patrick Stewart's name was brought up. And suddenly people were. okay with this new methodology that is now a new meme and something that will be parody forever
Starting point is 00:11:17 cementing the effect the impact of what is otherwise a very boring strategy to do something and doesn't it show that marvel's still the cultural drug or not that it is yes it is yeah because everybody's like marbles played into it man right like we're we're having this conversation about chairs because it's marvel and like any other company could not do this without being laughed at And I'm sure plenty of people, I laughed at a few things being absurdist. But Marvel had hundreds of thousands of people watching for six hours. That's insane. That is like just to quantify people's attention spans, which are horribly truncated by TikTok and Instagram, six hours of hundreds of thousands of people.
Starting point is 00:11:59 It is insane. That's longer than the Super Bowl. That's longer than the Oscars. Hundreds of thousands. They are still bigger than other entertainment to scale. There were people live streaming this. I would love to know, like, a mutual friend like Christian Harloff, Brandon Davis, Strawah, Goofy, what that must have been like when they woke up this morning
Starting point is 00:12:19 and they go, all right, we're on top of this stream. And why has it been stuck on Chris Hemsworth for the last 10 minutes? Why hasn't it changed? I lived the other side of it. I woke up and set in a stream for 8.30. I was like, by the time we know what it is, I'll go live and I'll catch up the end. Moved to Day 45. Moved it to 9.
Starting point is 00:12:37 moved it to 915 every 15 minutes because that's the hiccup and I just changed it then at 945 I was like I'm gonna go live it's got to end didn't bailed I thought it was broken I didn't hear it I couldn't hear the music and I think I texted you that then once I turned the volume up that's when I realized like this is so stupid this is intentional what they're doing I also had a weird moment where I and I hate that I feel this but I think Thor 4 hurt me so bad that when it started with Hemsworth I was like Like I was kind of Because I like Chris Emsworth but I like him so much more In Mad Max I like him so much more So when it was Chris Thamesworth I was like
Starting point is 00:13:15 Is it a Thor 5? And I don't know how it ended So I still don't know What's bigger than Dr. Doom So like when it started with Chris Hemsworth And the rumor was like bigger than Dowdy I was like Can it be? All I know is it's a moment
Starting point is 00:13:27 In movie news we're never going to forget And whether it's good or bad It's so strange Because it's controversial In the most mundane way because controversial would apply offensive. And I guess it's offensive if you read into you wasted people's time and energy. A quarter of a day.
Starting point is 00:13:46 You wasted someone's entire day. But beyond that, what did you guys think about it? Did you stick around or just wait? I want to know what our audience did. And now, Koi. Let's get on to the main event. I want to know, man. Let's see where this went.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Okay, so it did kick off with Chris Hemsworth. That was the thing apart of this journey, right? It wasn't for the first like three. hours it was like okay sure that's about what I expect Chris Hemsworth though I'm excited for what he's going to do I have my concerns when it's an Avengers movie of this scale because part of me is wondering they probably left some other people off of this list didn't they it's probably going to be bigger yeah and then Secret Wars is probably going to be even bigger than that Chris Hemsworth though he has expressed some of the disappointment he has had with Thor
Starting point is 00:14:34 love and thunder he has been in tune with the audience on that. So I'm excited to see what he can bring to this. I know he has a voice when it comes to what they want to do with Thor, he's not just going to play into it. I also think the best Thor I've seen is when it's in an Avengers film with the Russo Brothers. I think of the entire franchise. Infinity War? Infinity War and Endgame. I think of the best Thor. Yeah. Like of all of it. And I like Thor one. I don't love Dark World, but I like it a little bit more than other people. I still think that Thor and Endgame and Infinity War is better than Rag Rock. I think. in an end game you're so i agree with you because i haven't even put much thought into that
Starting point is 00:15:10 with end game a lot of people will often go to what do you mean fat thor you thought that was one of the best that was the great blend of being able to do a funny version of thor that still made sense character wise even if you thought the joke got a little bit stale or overstayed it's welcome by the time it got to the finale or suddenly it was a viking badass right yeah they earned an arc even with fat thor he was badass as shit in a look we hadn't quite seen and and and and that's That's comics, and that's also action figures. And then in Infinity War, the conversation with Rocket and then the landing of, what was it? Bring me, Thanos!
Starting point is 00:15:45 Yeah, like, we need descends with magic. So I'm excited for Chris Thamesworth. Vanessa Kirby, Fantastic Four. That's an obvious one. I thought it was interesting. They went right from Avengers to Fantastic Four. That did feel like an obvious pivot. I think the moment was more about the camera moving, and then we were going to live there forever.
Starting point is 00:16:00 God damn, I got to show you this video. So in the live stream, it looked like they were going, wait a bit. pull the camera back, put another one. I'm just going to play for you the first eight seconds. It wasn't that at all, Coy. It is just one smooth pullback shot. Forever. Forever.
Starting point is 00:16:16 It's just once, but they're in a giant sound stage. They edited it to have these pauses for 10 minutes. I can tell you almost exactly what they did here. They probably had one of those rails. They have these rails that you can basically set specific motions and timings for. And so they probably did two shots. They did one just along the rail. tracking backward along the backs of the chairs and then one that was just okay set up start move
Starting point is 00:16:44 wait 14 minutes then move again wait 14 minutes and so on that's it's it's no one probably touched that camera once they roll russo's directed this yeah that frame all right so then we have anthony macky again an obvious choice glad he's in it wouldn't expect him i'd be very surprised even as someone who still has yet to see i'm one of the people who's going to react to it on this channel still hasn't seen captain america brave new world you've debated that he ought to be he could be the leader maybe not should be i think it should be a part of the journey okay i don't think it should be a de facto leader i think what makes cap interesting is he always thinks captain america himself is always making sure it's an earned title that it's not just captain so i think sam wilson would be the
Starting point is 00:17:25 same i don't think he'd come in there like i'm the captain like i just doesn't feel like say i'm de captain yeah but i also like that it goes thor it goes o g holy trinity Avenger into Fantastic 4 back to Holy Trinity. Because to me, it's Cap Iron Man and Thor. So Cap, Thor and Vanessa Kirby. And then after, after formerly Falcon, it is Winter Soldier Sebastian Stan. Which is exciting, but also why Ruin Thunderbolts had stakes until this reveal. They reveal a lot here, right?
Starting point is 00:17:54 Because you got Sebastian standing here, the Winter Soldier, Letitia Wright, who I'm assuming will be Black Panther in this. But like Thunderbolts is coming out in May and there was the whole stakes of maybe they die and like if anyone was going to die it was going to be Sebastian Stan right like that to me and so like he's third or fourth and it's like okay i haven't put thought into who from thunderbolts is not on this list so let's go through when they're done with thunderbolts and then let's re-examine who's not that was my first thought and then we'll know who lives in thunderbolts and who dies in thunderbol because he's congressman barn so that would be the impactful death in thunderbolts because he's the
Starting point is 00:18:27 beloved one but now let's got to fight evil you know chris evans yeah so let's he to write as black Panther. I haven't heard any, I'm sure there's some pushback somewhere. I'm not bothered. She was Black Panther at the end of Black Panther O'Connor Forever for this being the culmination of that chapter of Avengers films. Yes. It would be weird if they suddenly had multiversal black panther. New guy. What up? Aldous Hodge is Black Panther. Yeah, I think follow through with your Letitia, right. Paul Rudd in a normal chair in this video, but on the one they put on the stream, it was a tiny chair. They have a different chair. Cowered. That's the funniest joke of the whole stream.
Starting point is 00:19:04 What funny is is that it was an ant sized that chair. It was a little person sized. Yeah, it was like a child, little child size. It wasn't an ant size. Maybe it's an Easter egg for endgame when he D ages himself. Really way too much into it. Like if you're going to commit to this bit, make it an hand-sized chair. Just going to say, make you an actual a in the back.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Yeah. Paul Rudd. I'm glad he's coming back to, of course, with Ant Man and the Wasquantamania. And it has me a little curious that they are going to acknowledge some of the king thing while we're on that. that subject because Jonathan Majors has been back in the news cycle. He's been doing a lot of interviews, magazine dreams. He's getting, he already had great feedback in it. That great feedback is just getting more solidified.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It's made me excited to see the film. I'm looking forward to it. I just saw the trailer on my own. Like last night, I think. Yeah, he looks very powerful in it. Yeah. And it would appear that, you know, he's getting back into people's good graces or people are willing to give him another chance.
Starting point is 00:20:00 wrote a letter to kevin foggy i watched an interview where he was talking about like reaching out not expecting anything but just wanted to let him know like he's here intriguing uh it's also intriguing that order wise we've covered a lot of phase two sure because we've gotten a cap uh thor uh winter soldier um black panther and no guardians yet but otherwise ant man kind of solidifies the phase two feel well with paul rudd in in quantum mania that post credit scene or whatever i don't know for yeah it's the post credit scene with all the kings that was in quantumania so the last time we saw paul rud and he was also having his inner monologue about oh shit whatever what has happened will he have will he return i think if you want to follow through and conclude you kind of have to yeah i think there has to be an
Starting point is 00:20:41 acknowledgement via through his character yeah i could see that or you just ignore and we all cheer at all the cameos look at downy yeah you know we are it happens to us too some nails are coming we sound cynical but then it works on us too and we're in the theaters and like oh yeah i forgot until I was out of the theater. I'm there opening night happy. Yeah. Because again, sometimes it is just about that, though. I just want to be happy.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Sometimes it is just about the emotion. Yeah. In spite of how they distracted us from some of the shortcomings of writing that maybe they had to follow up on. I'm already assuming they haven't done it. Yeah. The other way happens, too, where people assume No Way Home is not well written when I think it is because the cameos.
Starting point is 00:21:20 I think people go overly cynical when there are Easter eggs and cameos. People often view things as very binary now. Right. exactly there's no like oh i have an issue with that but i still overall blank it's just like good bad the answer to everything in life i have found is not is usually not yes or no this or that it's it depends right cameos are it depends cameos is not equal bad storytelling bad writing nostalgia bait does not equal that it can but it's not totally can but not always and also the deadpool wolverine actors were supporting characters like i think the definition of cameo also
Starting point is 00:21:57 has been mutilated. People are like, oh, the Wesley Snipes cameo. I was like, he's fully in that movie for an act. Yeah. Like, he's in that. So, like, that's also an issue, I think, with this cultural misuse of words. Yeah, I guess we should talk to studios and be like, what's like that time frame? How well, because like, when there's, Alec Baldwin got an Oscar for five minutes of screen time.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Like, there's, there's terminology, I think. And now you've seen one of my, my favorite cameo outside of Stan Lee, now that you've seen Eurotrip, that's a cameo. Yeah, that's a real cameo. Matt Damon is a cameo and the best cameo. That's a great cameo. Wyatt Russell surviving Thunderbolts I see another Captain America comes in I'm excited for Wyatt Russell it's interesting how we often forget that both Kurt Russell and Wyatt Russell are characters in the MCU yeah and I'm really happy for Wyatt Russell there's this strange argument I'm seeing of defense for Nepo children in who are like actors who are actually doing well I forget who was just saying it an actress who people people like would say, Maya Hawk or Amanda Seafre one or someone was just saying that. I saw it on
Starting point is 00:23:02 Twitter. Actually, I think it was today of we have to stop just condemning Nepo babies. I think if you're talented. I don't care what your last name is. I think Jack Quaid is so talented. I don't think of Meg Ryan. I don't think of Dennis Quaid. He is really his own own plane. What's funny to me is when I see I'm the opposite now. I was watching the Oscars and Meg Ryan came out and I was like Jack's mom. Oh, funny. Like, he's, to me, his own thing to the point where, like, it's, it's, I grew up with Top Gun. I grew up with the day after tomorrow. But Jack is such a, his own good actor that I respect each of their careers, but that's just Jack's mom now.
Starting point is 00:23:40 But I think that if you're getting into the work, you fall off quickly if you're not worth your own last name. Like, you don't get to survive and just limp through it anymore. There's so many actors and people are always like, yeah, but they're taking jobs away from other people. I'm like, no, no, they're good enough to stay. I agree. And I think Wyatt Russell is fantastic. He's one of those interesting aspects of if we're talking, there's got to be a nicer word than Nepo baby.
Starting point is 00:24:04 It's a child actor of famous person. Second of his name. He's one of those strange because he's very much his own person, but there's a lot that does remind you of Kurt Russell. So often. He plays younger Kurt Russell in the Monarch show for a reason. And I love embracing that. I think that's smart of his part.
Starting point is 00:24:24 And I think it's smart of Jack. to Jack thinks like Jack he uses Jack Quaid as like a funny thing like he's aware and I like that he's like look I just want to work yes and I think Wyatt Russell is that interesting spot where he can remind you of Kurt Russell in a good way and not
Starting point is 00:24:39 in a cheap way and I think he still does his own thing and I feel like what he did in black the episode of Sodom in Black Mirror I thought it was great a monarch and you're going to toe to toe to their dad yeah he's one of the greatest actors of all time and of course how he is in Falcon and
Starting point is 00:24:55 soldier that evolution of that character when i see the thunderbolt trailer i'm excited for him i think no one puts enough stock and why russl there's other names on here that in terms of watch time they're like man these guys are taking freaking forever to get why russle we're excited but this is what we do here yeah this one i was not expecting i'm not this is one where i'm not fully surprised by it okay i'm actually excited by it i was one of the individuals who was dismayed by pushback on it and pushback that I don't even remember the specifics as to push back. I just remember the feeling of negative reception. Okay. To Nakwerta. Oh, Namor. Yeah. Is it Namor? In the comics, it's Namor. They made it Namor because it's without love. Oh, yes. Which I thought was a clever turn.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yes. Well, I loved his presence in Black Panther, Wakonda forever. I did, he was one of the names I was not expecting to see on here. So it's not a surprise that he's back. Not, Nemore doesn't die. It's the first pop for me. This was in the window that I was watching and I had the first. I was like, Oh, but like I didn't love no more in that take. I didn't dislike it. It's just it was very far from the comics in a way that I didn't feel like was the character. And now that's the solidified version of the character. And it's one of those examples where it's just like I see the character very differently.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Yeah. And so like I didn't love it, but I'm not not excited to see him back. But it is surprisingish. Well, I didn't have that built in connection. Association with the character. Yeah. I was able to just take it literally on its own merits. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And within the context of the story. I understand that, though. I would not fault someone for that. Yeah. Even though I'm sure no one ever does for you, Corey. No, no, people love my opinions at all times. They're like, I agree with you no matter what. But that said, my first thought when his name popped up was, ooh, Sue Storm and Namor in one property.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Because Sue Storm and Namor have friction and history. Ooh. And around Reed Richards, they'll stretchy dick there. Go on. So sometimes Sue is hooking up with the King of Atlantis outside of Marital Bliss with Reed Richards. and that causes a rivalry between Atlantis and Earth because Reed is who he is and they're two of the most genius men
Starting point is 00:26:56 fighting over this powerhouse woman and that's exciting for doom like I hope that plot happens. I would love if this movie is just to set up for the next face. The big adventurer's moment is just teeing up a love triangle with Pedro Pascale what's his name?
Starting point is 00:27:12 Tanacuerta and Vanessa Kirby all about it because what's his name just started to impress about like Reed for the first time and even yeah pageers are already started talking about certain stretchy things. He was talking about how much of his body stretches. Yeah, and the Jimmy Kimmel interview, I think that's when it came up.
Starting point is 00:27:27 So I'm just saying, like, Vanessa Kirby's perfectly satisfied, but I'm excited for this little love triangle. Ebben Moss, is that the thing? Yes. He's my favorite cast of that cast. What a way to, what a way to milk this with putting the four characters for Fantastic 40? Times 14 minutes, that's 40, 56 minutes. One hour of this is the Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Could have just said Fantastic. exactly you just said fantastic four times 14 minutes is an absurd 56 minutes uh but uh i think i ben moss mccrack is like one of those uh castings that's like top tier i think he's gonna crush simu liu that one was a bit of pop that was i think one of the last ones i saw where i was like oh that makes sense but also like where's he been when daniel this incredible was attached i thought for sure simulia would 100 be in this then when he wasn't attached i question whether or not seem see me will be in it right i and i'm again not surprised he's in it. I'm excited for him to come back because we haven't seen
Starting point is 00:28:22 Shang-chi outside of like a what-if episode in a very long time. But he's done some other stuff in between. He's in Barbie. He's fantastic. I just, I feel like he had the biggest pop of phase four and then it's weird that it's been like. But that weirdly makes it more exciting to scene. Oh, 100%. That name got a bigger moment for me because
Starting point is 00:28:38 it's been so long. Yeah, it's one of those. We're like, ooh, I didn't realize I missed you. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm excited for it, man. I'm excited from Florence Pew. She survives. She makes it out of Thunderbolts. She lives Thunderbolts. Okay. we have Black Widow
Starting point is 00:28:51 For Captain America She called Black Widow But you know A Black Widow type Yeah yeah And I'm trying to think of the Holy Trent The Five was
Starting point is 00:28:59 Black Widow Evil Captain America Two hours of sleep ER didn't There was a good cap A bad cap Bad cap Bad Widow
Starting point is 00:29:09 Yeah And Bucky Yeah They all make it Okay All right Here we go Florence Pew
Starting point is 00:29:15 I'm excited For to be in an Avengers movie First Avengers movie though This is exciting to me Kelsey Grammer
Starting point is 00:29:20 returning as Beast because I was not a fan of CGI Beast. Got a lot of flack for not being a fan of that. It's one of those things that when you first express that, you know the people who really don't want to hear that at the time, even if they don't have a problem that they just don't want to hear, they're going to climb down your throats. And then eventually there's going to be a wave of people being like, no, you're right.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And of course, it's still back and forth. It's debatable. I'm not right or wrong. It's just my opinion, my perspective. And I appreciate that they did go to make him look more comic accurate. I suppose I still feel like tangibility and feeling like you could actually touch this guy makes it more impactful than comic accurate CGI. Just my opinion. My hot take, he should be X-Men 97's Beast continuity and that they should lean into the animated animated like he should be 2D.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Oh, really? Because he looks so too. But still do Kelsey Graver? Oh, okay. I think it could be funny if he was the candid for X-197 where he's a 2D cartoon and that explains how 2D that CGI looked. Whoa. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yep. Because I remember I wanted animated multiverse scenes? Remember the breakdown we did at your house like forever ago? And I was like there was those four frames of animation when it was going through the multiverse. I was like, they're going to bring it all in. No, let's not. Good trailer.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Good trailer. Kelsey Grammer is excited. Is this guy? Sentry, Lewis Pullman? Louis Pullman, Century, Sentry and Bob. Fucking A, man. Dude, Bob's in it. Guess he makes it.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Oh my God. Guess he makes it through Thunderbolts. What is this? They're just telling me the villain makes it through. Hey, guys, Thunderbolts out in May. I was just going through my head of, like, who's this man? It's all right. We already did the guy from the thing who I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Who else do I not? I'm like, it's got to be Century. It they, wow, wow. It guess he makes it. Centries in another, another, second of his name. Bill Pullman's son. Who have we not heard? We haven't heard Taskmaster.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yep. Ghost. Haven't heard David Harbor. Taskmaster Ghost and David Harvard. Red Guardian. Yeah. Lewis Pullman. Danny Ramirez. I'm glad they're not killing the villain. I mean, I hate that I know it. All right, Dan Ramirez. New Falcon coming off for Captain America. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Joseph Quinn. Human Torch. Yes. Yes. Yes. exciting. But of course. But of course. David Harbor. Oh, he makes it. He makes it. Yes. He pulls through. David Harvard makes... All right, so this is where I don't know yet. I had not seen David Harvard. This is new to me.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah, to clarify some of these names I didn't catch because I was only seeing some, like, tweets that came out. I didn't know Quinn. I assumed... I didn't know Harbor, though, and that does make Thunderbolts. Yeah, the one that really took off was the title X-Men characters, those two. Winston Duke is back. Hey, that's exciting. Of course he.
Starting point is 00:32:07 He's so good, man. And Baku's incredible. He has to be. Hannah John Kamen. Does that ghost? Ghost. Ghost. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:32:14 So the Thunderbolts make it. that's so funny not taskmaster oh so far not taskmaster that's a bond girl uh oh yeah oh hello she's barely in the trailer though huh yeah there's no way
Starting point is 00:32:29 if she's not in this list and barely in the trailer oh she they totally kill her off or stakes to show it yeah like anyone's disposable except everyone in doomsday as released today if you think we're spoiling it we're not the ones we just did some basic deduction here off of there's one cast member
Starting point is 00:32:46 missing, who's also barely in the trailer. Oh, water how that goes. Wow. There you go. Easter eggs. Have that new rock stars. The actor you're thinking of is Olga Curlienko.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Curlienko, thank you. It was driving me crazy. Thomas the Hiddleston is back. Ooh, which Loki is he? Okay, that's a moment. It's got to be the Loki season two. Loki, right? It's got to be because, well,
Starting point is 00:33:10 mainstream continuity's dead. Got killed by Thanos. And then there's two chains that we've lived timelines with. Wow, that does change the narrative of what you would imagine this story to be. I wonder if, I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:25 I don't think they'd do this, but what if they have him do the Kang stuff? Like, they just tag in, like all the time you whimey they were going to do with Kang is now going to be Loki. I feel like that makes sense, considering the way it ends. I thought it ended so perfect.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I love Tom Hiddleston. I did not want to see him again. Because of how good it ended. I'm so afraid of them like, well, but we can make him find him. Yeah, it's great. We make him a villain again for Fuzzies. Just put him in.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Oh, it ended so perfect. He had the perfect arc. How would you weave this in? It's got to be. I hope they don't kill him would make God Emperor Doom. I'm really afraid they're going to God Emperor. I feel like the power scaling of Doom
Starting point is 00:34:02 required him to kill Kang. And if Kang's not in it, they're going to need a power scaling moment with Loki and they're going to kill Loki with Doom to make him God Emperor Doom. That's my fear. I agree. I think that the way how they did
Starting point is 00:34:14 Infinity War, where that was Thanos' story, and then they do the other ones with the Avengers of the leads. I think that's what they're doing right now, right? Where they'll probably do a Doom's journey and get to know Doom from his perspective. We just met him.
Starting point is 00:34:27 So, I mean, I imagine they'd probably allow to see some of maybe like the first act focuses on his actual character arc. Still cost it over in like 30 minutes, though. If they did that, I don't know what they're going to do. It's only got 20 cast members so far. They got plenty of time. But we'll talk more about Robert Doughty Jr. in a minute.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Patrick Stewart. This is when I saw a photo. I was like, oh, cool. That confirms a lot. I mean, I've been saying since Deadpool and Wolverine that they were saving all the Fox stuff for this. Good. That's probably why they didn't allow some of the cameos to actually be in.
Starting point is 00:34:55 That's why they just voiced it. They were like, and when the hell died, but we don't show them. Yeah. There is a strong implication that, okay, they're not going to let them use that. That's probably why they didn't let them use. That's why they didn't let them use Robert Downey Jr. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Because they knew he would come back and it could soften the impact of that. And I'm pretty sure they filmed a post-credit scene with Downey Jr. Well, for Deadpool Wolverine. Oh, I don't know that. Well, Patrick Stewart, though that's exciting i'm really excited because the enthusiasm when first year's voice in the multiverse of madness trailer yeah does not live up to what happens in the movie nope but they can fix that every time i watch what happens in the movie i'm more disappointed yeah because of how how he just
Starting point is 00:35:33 goes out and i'm like oh man that's the last patrick stewart performance will get a professor i'm so glad that's not true and i really hope they course credit this is i can only assume who the next name is. And this is like, again, exciting, but not surprising, Ian McKellen. So I didn't know Ian McKellen. I knew Patrick Stewart and I knew Beast. So I thought the marvels and obviously multiverse of madness, those, the X-Men we've had so far, they won't reveal anymore. And they just said, Ian McKell was like, guess they will. Now I'm like James Marsden might be on here. Halle Berry might be on here. Who knows? I haven't heard. I don't know. I'm just saying like now that they've opened the Ian McKell. Ian McKellon has not appeared in the MCU. Now,
Starting point is 00:36:14 he has so like to me this opens all of that floodgate i flashed to when they were all doing press for logan on graham norton and ian mckellan was ribbing about how he wasn't invited to be in that movie yeah it's like and after it's been a long time as we've seen specifically ian mccelman as magnito right it's a days of future pass was the last one yeah it's like 15 years ago and even then that magneto was more michael fosbender yeah uh focus screen time wise yeah so that's it oh i wonder if mackavoy or fastbender on here and they're great. They have great chemistry. They're still so perfect. And McAvoy loves it still.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Like McAvoy would love to come back. I think McAvoy and Fassmender and Patrick Stewart and McKellen are perfect casting for both of us. They both bring differences, but they're perfect for those characters. And even for Ian McKellon, where I, when I think of Magneto, I do think of like a buff guy. But yeah, he plays him so perfectly that, you know, Magneto, I think you can get away with Magneto not being buff because none of his powers require him to be buff. the physical stature of him
Starting point is 00:37:16 no necessity for it. He literally wields the elements of the earth. Like he doesn't need to work out. But this gets me excited because X-Men 2000 Beyond Hugh Jackman, you know, Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen were some of the most apt casting you could have had and it they brought a level of gravitas
Starting point is 00:37:32 to the whole genre. Respect to the genre to get both of those guys in there and around the time of he's Ian McKellen is one of those actors who has seemed like he's a senior citizen to me for his entire life. Sam Jackson just born and Morgan Freeman they were all born very old they just seemed like they came out and for the last 60 years they've been 80 years old and even McKellen is was one of
Starting point is 00:37:55 those guys where for a lot of us his rise to fame I know he did other stuff before he's mainly a theater actor but his rise to fame was Magneto and Gandalf in terms of cultural impact yeah and to go back to this very exciting and only fitting to me also if they're They get somehow McAvoy and Fast Miner to come back. That perfectly ties into Loki with God of Story stuff. That'd be fun to play with time and all those elements. Let's keep going through this. But then let me just make a little note here so I don't forget.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Because I want to talk about which X-Men it'll be. I feel like we're going to like tangent too much on that. So just make a little note here so I don't forget. X-Men Who. And let's go next. Allie Cumming is going to be in this. Reject Nation. I love partnering with brands that I was already using.
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Starting point is 00:40:25 Cody Smith-McPhee. Damn, boy, good job. Ready with it. You interview him or something? You took the word right out of my mouth. The actor I weirdly name a lot. Cody Smith-McPhee? Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:36 For some reason. Because every time I do, then Greg comments on like, how do you know that guy's? I never just commit this dude's name to Mary. I had a weirdly long talk with him at a premiere one. Power the Dog, I think it was. We had a premiere conversation where he talked about how much you loved Nightcrawler. And the whole time he's such an interesting looking dude.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I kept fighting myself being like, you're so fascinating. And so I remember it because I was like, what an enchanting tall fellow. Like he left a really interesting impression on me because he's so intense and earnest at once. Ooh, he's cool. I like that kid. I hope Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds are not in this one. Me too. Please don't put them in this.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I would like them to be in Secret Wars. Save something. Based off of what we're seeing, since we've got 30 more seconds on this, based off what was, I stopped around Ian McHale, I stopped at, I didn't stop.
Starting point is 00:41:22 That was the last one I heard. My thought process is in X-Men 97, people who stole the show in terms of characters we've seen live action portrayals of. Beast wasn't as huge in X-Men 97, but it's Kelsey Grammer. Magneto got a big resurgence with that show,
Starting point is 00:41:38 Professor X. Nightcrawler had a really stand-out episode. Alan Cumming in X-2, X-Men United, The opening scene is considered one of the best comic books scenes of all time at the White House. And we haven't seen anything else of him in that space. No, and he's perfect in that movie. I actually don't even know the behind the scenes of why he wasn't invited back.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I think he just didn't get along with the team in some way. I'm not sure, though. Oh. I hope that changes, Spy Kids. I hope it changes. That said, you gave me an X-Men 97. I was thinking Cyclops should be here, James Martinson, and I'm thinking Hallie Berry should be here. You said X-197?
Starting point is 00:42:10 Channing Tatum? Yes. I think Gambit's on here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he's been fighting to come back as Gambit. That would be exciting. Rebecca Romaine. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:42:19 No way. They're doing the whole thing. Rebecca Romaine's back. Why are they telling us this, though? I just went from excited to upset. I don't want to know this. Why do we know this, Greg? It's too soon.
Starting point is 00:42:30 So they must be going to the OG. I, man, I so want to go into the X-Men talk now because after seeing Beast, I would like, I would go towards it's a different universe, not the Fox universe. but if you're doing Aliccoming and you're doing Rebecca Remain, not Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah. I would imagine that it is the original X-Men trilogy. I think they're getting the OG, which is exciting, dude.
Starting point is 00:42:52 This is, this is, and then I hope maybe they do new, the new era in Secret Wars. Yeah, that'd be cool. It's just funny to be because, like, Patrick Stewart, I've thrown there, too, as someone who's been old his entire life. 100%. 100%. Patrick Stewart and Magneto, they could come back and just be like,
Starting point is 00:43:10 yeah, they have an age of day. because they've always been old where it's like Rebecca remaining out and come and get the benefit of being in makeup 20s. Yeah, that's true. And they're just going to have to be. Yeah. When you're blue, you get the makeup. Yeah, or CG. Yeah. Oh, my God. Please for the love of God. You're already doing it to
Starting point is 00:43:27 Beast. Please do not do it to Nightcrawler. Please do not do it to mistake. Practical effects were gorgeous and it looked great. You do not sell Rebecca Remain on. Hey, you can do it, but you don't have to be in makeup for 10 hours. No, you punish that actress. Make-up chair, 12 hours, $1,000 an hour, whatever it equates to over the course of filming a cameo. Do it. I love that the X-Henberback. That's exciting.
Starting point is 00:43:52 I hate that I know, though. Fuck yeah. James Mardson's in this. Cyclops Redemption. Chanitatim and Cyclops Redemption. They did it. Wait, are they going to make Gambit in canon of the old X-Men continuity? Are they going to tie him back in as he should have been?
Starting point is 00:44:10 because technically should have been the first class continuity but they can... There's the origins one. That's Taylor Kish. Yeah, I know. Shouldn't it be that one then? Well, that's... That doesn't count.
Starting point is 00:44:20 No one really likes that one. Nobody talks about it. That whole movie has become about disrecognito. Yeah, that's like the point. But like Channing Tatum, James Marsden, like that's... Dude, James Marsden, please give him leadership moments. Please let him lead the X-Men.
Starting point is 00:44:34 That is amazing. I'm so happy for him. I can be totally honest with you guys. I know that E. Kellyn and Patrick Stewart is probably one of the most exciting ones for a lot of people. I bet Channing Tatum is definitely the fact that he gets to continue on beyond, you know, like how he first, because it's interesting what happened in Depphole and Wolverine, right? He first showed up as being able to pay off, but he was, it was like hilarious.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Yeah. And it kind of came across like, oh, it's a joke cameo. Right. And then he gets to be really badass. Yeah. Like, never mind. He gets to be both. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:06 He could actually be gambit. Yeah. Because he comes across on screen. he looks silly and then he's saying stuff that is intensely about making fun of his Cajun accent and then when he's doing badass moments you're like damn jenny tattum could have been gambit holy shit and then he has the ultimate meme line i'm gonna i'm about to make a name for myself that one and so the fact that he gets to continue on hopefully dramatically like thor how he you know in the endgame movies he gets to balance the comedy and drama i that makes me i'm glad we brought
Starting point is 00:45:35 up endgame and thor yeah it's exactly that and dude marsden if he actually gets to leave I'm not going to watch James Marston. Dude, that is so exciting. That is personally my favorite because everyone knows the letdown. Of him personally and the movies. But James Marston is a talent. I really, really feel this. He is so overlooked for what he does in those Sonic movies.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Dude, it's such a balancing act of, like, miming and comedy. And, like, I think he's one of those actors that's so handsome. People don't realize he's talented. Like, he's just too good looking for you'll be like, what a good actor. What is that? Paradise? The show he's on right now? Yeah, with Sterling K. Brown. Dude.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I've only seen the two episodes. It's amazing. I know a show's impactful when I have, like, family members hitting me up being like, You should react to the paradise. I'm like, what is paradise? The first two episodes are great. Sterling K. Brown is a force of nature. People love it.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And I think James Marston, sometimes is that character in stuff where people forget just how effective he is no matter the genre of the guy is in. Enchanted is another example. He's so good in those movies. He's amazing in those movies. and the notebook the notebook he's great in it somehow are like wait i kind of get where he's coming from opposite ryan gosling great to conflict yeah dude he's so good and and i honestly in sonic that is the one where i feel the most for him because i'm like jim kerry gets all the credit the
Starting point is 00:46:52 humans get pushed back the voice and marston is is very very very impactful in those films particularly that first one the first sonic movie or the second one i went to the premiere of one of the sonic movies and uh i was going to leave uh to grab popcorn and i collided physically with James Marston like the shoulder to shoulder like oh I'm so sorry look up and it's James Marsden and we had that moment of like I have to say something except I'm sorry and I was like hey thanks for caring so much about Cyclops I could tell you did even if they didn't let you in the movie and like he literally stopped his handlers and was like thank you man I love Scott and I was like he cares and we just had this really like 10 second moment of him like look at me in the eye and
Starting point is 00:47:31 going like thanks for knowing that I care and ever sent him and like please give him his moment oh my god you know what i would love you i'm totally freaking out at the possibility of this the yellow spandex line and if they give him comic accurate suit and they let him reverse that shit like in the show cool with that yes exactly and the fact that he's older now and not some young hot shot and he could be aged cyclops dude i want him to have the x over his eyes i want that dope soup oh and if he could actually do like cyclops maneuvers without having to press the visor what if he like jumped on the plane and uses his optic blast to slow him down like the Cyclops like crazy video game moves?
Starting point is 00:48:07 The opening fight scene in the 97? Yes, that's exactly going to get at the power slide in that moment. It's concussive. It's not heat. People mislabel it. It's not heat. It's concussive. Let Cyclops concuss.
Starting point is 00:48:17 This is going to be cool. Maybe he'll be like a grieving one. Let me see. Dude, let him be in this for a while. Further. Pedro Pasquale. Yes, a very obvious one.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Thank you. Is that the last fantastic? Oh, Robert Daddy Jr. What? What is this? What? I haven't even seen this. What?
Starting point is 00:48:28 Okay. does he say something? I'm going to try to play this loudly. physically him koi just coming to my camera for all right since we've never seen this before all right let's try to john can you to be fair if you make sure we're both in the shot to this to react to like you yeah yeah that's pretty good okay okay all right we have shots i've not seen this let's watch this all right that's iron man all right that is not dr doom to me i'm conflicted oh man oh man i can't
Starting point is 00:49:21 there was a physical i mean i'm sure he sat there six hours um that's exciting to have that little beat but also it does kind of reaffirm everyone of my concerns Yeah, it just feels like Iron Man, like Robert Downey Jr. feels more like, I don't know. Let's wait. When I think of Doom, I think quirky. We'll see. I was hoping that he would do something that kind of reflects to show that he's going to be Victor or not. This is like, that feels like what Iron Man would do. Yeah, that's an Iron Man beat. But the Russo brothers did come out and say that the fact that it's Robert Downey Jr. is very intentional casting linking to end game.
Starting point is 00:49:53 The death of Tony Stark. So, I mean, but I don't feel like they needed to say that. Like, of course it is. Why else would they need Robert Downey Jr. to be the wrong. right and that was what got them back in like that's what made them want to do the story is like whatever that that because according to them it was too i was so psyched about cycles according to them i just hope they really do james martin redemption holy shit he loves the character so much damn i am so rooting for that that i am so rooting for that he is the one who was robbed and he got that death he got that terrible death off camera he got that terrible x-men 3 because he was filming on superman and they like punished him for it
Starting point is 00:50:30 And then he came back for a second at the end of days of future past. And he never got so much more. Never. And instead, John, name that other Cyclops. That would be Ty Sheridan. There you go. Yeah. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Way to go. Yeah. Ty Sheridan doing the work. Good job. Sometimes I pull him out. Ty Sheridan. But yeah. He spent McPhee.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Well, look, we've talked plenty about our concerns about the Robert Downey Jr. So I wouldn't need to beat a dead horse. No. There are names who I am. Imagine we'll be in Secret Wars, who I think would be fun to talk about really quick. X-Men first class cast. I want the other X-Men. I thought Spider-Man would be mentioned in this.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I'm kind of glad he's not, though. Yeah, I feel like, I mean, maybe it'd be cool to have Spider-Man 4 bring him into Secret Wars. I think, though, that if you're going to do, in my personal opinion, I think if you are going to do Robert Downey Jr. As Dr. Doom, having characters who you associate as having a strong relationship with Tony Stark would make it powerful. I'm like, don't shy away from it then. Because it's obvious you're going that way. Lean into it. You can't have your cake you need to you.
Starting point is 00:51:35 You can't have just your Dr. Doom with some acknowledgement that it's linked to Robert Downey Jr. Lean into it hardcore. That way it feels vital to the storytelling. Yeah. And I think Tom Holland in particular. Yeah, he's like the son of. And I think it would be kind of glossed over in a secret wars. Because there's going to be like a million more people in it.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Right. Oh, also there's no Captain Marvel. There's no Marvels at all. There's no Miss Marvel. No Kamala Khan. There's no Kamala Khan. There's no... Monaghani, sorry.
Starting point is 00:52:00 There's no Tiana Paris. Yeah. Monica Rambo. There's no Nick Fury. There's no Sony characters at all. No Craven? No, I mean, obviously. No, but like Ghost Rider,
Starting point is 00:52:10 that era of stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, Mohertula. No Bad Affleck? Yeah. No Moherstle. No Blade of Mahershela. No Eternals.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Not a one. But somehow they're going to go to the goddess stories, but they can't reach the celestial. Interesting. Is there anyone else that's obvious missing? Louis no Don Cheadle no louis oh no no no no no Don Cheadle neither Ironman uh Dominique Thorne nor Don Cheadle hmm no moon night no TV actors at all no Charlie Cox no John Bernthall I think on that should be secret worse that I think well I mean for another
Starting point is 00:52:46 video because I think it would be cool to do like a separate video for it please remind us in the Congress know if you've made it this far if you want to hear this in another video it would be smart for them to really embrace their R rating on on TV as we're doing a Punisher and Daredevil. I agree. Do their midnight suns. Do you. So it seemed like they were going for. Yeah. That way you could do your moon night and have the have the mix in. Where up by night. Like lean into that supernatural occult side.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Yeah. Absolutely. That's what I hope they do at least. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. I'm not bummed about who we didn't hear because I'm already like, that's a lot of people. No, Bruce Banner. No Hulk. No, Ruffalo at all. No Hulk. Wow. Again, I feel like if you're doing no, Dr. Strange. If I feel like if you are doing. Your characters who knew Tony Stark, that's the ones who should be in Doomsday. And those are the ones that weren't listed, really. No Ruffalo, no Benedict. But to, but to, no renter.
Starting point is 00:53:39 No renter, yeah. To explore the other side of it, though, it maybe does allow it to, instead of a whole bunch of characters being like, you look like Tony. No, you must be like Tony. Crazy. Yeah. Instead of the whole bunch of that in a movie, it might actually help elevate to allow him to be more a standalone and on. his own instead of that association but I think you gotta kind of acknowledge
Starting point is 00:54:01 my personal opinion he's got to acknowledge it right away I don't know but because of the casting because it seems like a lot of these guys don't have a personal connection with who in the cast Chris Hemsworth Thor Thor does obviously a reason why they led with Thor there might be a reason why they kicked off of Chris Hemsworth
Starting point is 00:54:18 because he's the only OG Avenger in here Rod-ish Civil War but he was on the other side it's an issue it's just he was around Latisha Wright really doesn't she kind of could with the science stuff, they didn't really go that way. It's really kind of the people that don't have an association. None of the guardians.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Oh, none of the guardians. No Star Lord. And they said Star Lord will return. Yeah. No vision, no Wanda. Yeah. I didn't expect Wanda, but I kind of expected vision because of white vision. Didn't expect them to confirm all the Thunderbolts.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Maybe Secret Wars is a whole bunch of people being like, no, your Tony started to hear after his origin. What are you doing? We know the real you. You were so nice to me. Let's take you to the TVA and play. your timeline flashback for you here you are you tony avengers react we'll go through your loki episode one arc where we just played for you a timeline of what you could have been i'm better yeah
Starting point is 00:55:11 i'm a little i'm a little uh the downy moment it was a cool pop but i definitely feel like it like even oppenheimer that character feels more like doom that felt like tony Robert feels more at least the online presence that he brings the or the media presence that Robert Danny Jr. brings feels like Tony Star. Right. You know, obviously, we don't know him in real life. So he's probably much calmer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:39 At times at least. And sometimes you get that purview of him in certain interviews. But a lot of time, you know, he's doing his thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I guess that's a fun list. Okay. So we kind of went through it all, right?
Starting point is 00:55:48 We did it all. I did it all. I think that's a good official. video. I had fun. Yeah. I was nice. I'm glad I stopped before the big names. James Martens is the one that just jazzed me so much. Channing Tatum and James Mars are my two. Because I'm really just James. Channing Tatum fought for as long as Ryan Reynolds did, but I feel like Ryan Reynolds was a lot more public. So like Channing doesn't have quite the same like legend of wanting to be the thing. But Channing Tatum had like a completed script. They had a cast.
Starting point is 00:56:12 They had locations. They shut down the Gambit movie like two weeks out from filming. That would be so heartbreaking. He dressed his gamut as a child. Yeah. And I think he nailed the kitchen acts not easy. No, but like to imagine being a seven-year-old and becoming an actor and putting everything to forge in your career, getting your dream role that you dress as a kid, getting locations, thinking it's happening, and then losing it for you think ever, and then getting to it in Deadpool, and then like maybe never again, like that. There's something really special about him getting to do it in an Avengers film to me. Yeah, I agree. I agree with you, man. Yeah, that was awesome. Okay, this is awesome.
Starting point is 00:56:43 This is fun. I'm glad we got to do this again. Yeah. John, thank you for all the contribution as well for setting everything up before we got here. and coy appreciate you readjusting glad you're back in time for the biggest piece of movie news we could have covered in a long time yeah i'm excited to see what people think uh this was a fun way to do the breakdown um i'm really curious the impact this has on the conversation leading into cinema con because disney's going to have a presentation next week so i'm curious like doing something like this right before cinema con i'm curious what they're going to be showing and telling they're just going to bring out all the directors chairs they're going to set them out yeah and we're just going to look out we're just going to look out we're just going to look at them down there and as you guys heard robert downy junior and just this little director's chair and a little ant man chair but yeah they should do that they really should have like on the on the floor
Starting point is 00:57:31 a little man chair a commit to it i would not a little person chair i would buy that and hand chair i'd put that proff somewhere in my house that's adorable i would totally i would totally buy that that's such a good giving we should make that shirt yes we should just make that shirt a little little tiny Tiny little and Paul Ruppigal. I'm 10 minute of Aaron right now. Fuck, we got to do that right now. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Let's get on it. I told you was an instant meme. Aaron Alexander's on the horn. It's an immediate meme. They did change a cultural moment. Like, that's what you want out of advertising. It worked.
Starting point is 00:58:00 It's just crazy. Six hours. That's funny. And we just watched it a minute and a half. Okay. All right. But yeah, I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Now next week's CinemaCon. So I'm really curious if anything comes from it. I'm curious too. Well, got to get to working on thumbnails and video editing and all that and and Preper. I know you're going to do it. excellent job editing this down thanks to multi-house again for letting us have this space we're
Starting point is 00:58:20 also doing for for those who are real loyalists here of real rejects john and i are starting up removing real rejects diary diary real rejects it's going to be more like real rejects diaries you'll know what i mean when you watch it's going to be a john gregg show on a different channel with these guys over here it's a real personal thing i'll tell you guys about it later over the launches i'll just share the video you're going to love it anyway guys got to get to work much love. See you guys soon. Pice.

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