The Reel Rejects - Avengers Endgame Encore NEW FOOTAGE Breakdown Reaction!
Episode Date: September 26, 2026SPOILERS for AVENGERS: ENDGAME ENCORE and AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY! Avengers: Endgame is back in theaters with brand-new footage that directly sets up Avengers: Doomsday — and there is A LOT to talk about.... We break down every new Endgame Encore scene, including Loki interrupting Steve Rogers and Peggy Carter’s dance, Bruce Banner’s encounter with Doctor Doom, the TVA discovering thousands of multiversal incursions, the Fox X-Men universe Earth-10005 going to war with another Earth, and that final Doctor Doom mask reveal that completely recontextualizes the ending of Endgame. Then we'll dive into the casting of Mason Thames as Robin / Nightwing in James Gunn DCU Dynamic DUO as well as Chris Pine as Batman?! Follow Greg Alba: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ Twitter: https://x.com/thegregalba Follow Coy Jandreau: Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad: Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM: FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm so excited.
This concludes Greg and I have been on a marathon run for three weeks.
Today is our last shoot of the scheduled out from August.
I'm so sick of your godday face.
You know what, Greg?
I'm not sick of looking at you.
I'm not sick of yours. I'm sick of yours.
Well, I'm sorry.
I'm sick of looking at your stupid Irish face.
I know, I know.
It's soon going to be in Ireland.
Too Irish for my taste is what I say.
That's what you say.
Guys, we're going to talk about several things today, but one main topic, of course.
the time has come
Avengers End Game Encore
Rolls right off the tongue
Is here
Koi is going to be hosting an event
At El Capitan tonight
I'm hosting the big
Pseo premiere at the El Capitan
of Avengers Endgame Encore
Very excited honor
It's pretty cool
It's pretty cool
I hosted end game there
So this feels like an encore for me
Congratulations my friend
Full circle seven and a half years later
That's fucking crazy
Yeah so that is
They have four minutes, four minutes and four scenes.
Ah, I see what they did there.
Now, Koi hasn't seen any of this.
I've avoided all of Twitter, and I don't check my DMs in general because it's a nasty place,
but I've avoided any way I could have been exposed.
And I actually don't know.
When you texted me yesterday saying, do I need to worry about the thumbnail, I was like,
that's more data than I've had that apparently a character might be revealed.
Like, I don't know what even that could have meant.
Okay, good, because, yeah, I was like, what do I put in this goddamn thumbnail?
I didn't look.
And I feel like I played it reasonably safe for this one.
So what we're going to do today for the Avengers Endgame Encore is we're going to do this like when, you know, when people watch footage at Comic-Con and then people read breakdowns and they're reacting to like breakdown.
I can live react.
Yes.
But with you verbalizing the school.
I'm going to break it down for him.
I'm going to picture it.
I did not go watch Avengers End Game Encore.
I get to get spoiled five hours before hosting it.
Yeah, there you go.
Well, I want it.
Did we get to get your opinions?
We're going to do it for the live?
This is the only way that I legitimately told Greg.
I'm like, I'm happy to because it's the only way that we can do a reaction of sorts.
You know it.
I get to have like my face contort.
I did not go watch this in the theaters.
I will be.
I did exactly what most of you did.
I went on Twitter and watch reasonably all right cam footage.
I did exactly.
0.01% of people do, which is host an event.
I think my way is better.
So that's what we're going to do.
We're going to break it down in real time.
I tried being as specific as possible in my notes,
and I hope that we're able to paint a good picture for you as we're doing it.
I'm going to close my eyes.
So that's Uno.
The second thing we're going to talk about today is Dynamic Duo.
Apparently, apparently, you know, it seems like these Robbins have been confirming it in discreet ways.
And the third thing, I suppose, we should talk about, which I feel like no one's talking about, which is a big side.
Daredevil board again is going to be canceled after season three.
They're going to discontinue that.
So three main topics we're going to talk about.
Of course, Super Chats, stream labs are more than welcome.
We never end a stream without going through every single one.
My goal today is to have so many that Coy cannot make his L-CAP a tent event.
Oh, good.
Yes.
I'll let Disney know that I cannot host their endgame encore.
I'm there with you.
I want you here.
I'll zoom into the L-Cat.
My goal is to ruin all your jobs.
outside of here.
So you're kind of forced to just be here.
Greg,
I need a 50% raise because I've lost 50%
my income because of this job alone.
You're not going to get the raise, but you will be stuck here.
And we are also going to leak
who plays Batman.
That's what we're going to do.
Just so we get quite out of D.C.
as well.
Hook him.
Hook him.
Hook him.
But before we do any of that,
now, if you're watching the playback,
of course, please leave a like on this video.
And of course, you can hop around video chapters.
But last week, while hi Greg was here,
Oh, hi Greg was a delight.
It hit me in the middle of it that, oh, we were talking about Koi's birthday.
And I did not give Koi his birthday presents.
Oh shit.
So I figured, let's kick this off by giving Koi his birthday presence.
Coy.
Now, I did not wrap them because I totally forgot to.
I'm ready to plain and simple.
No.
Well, I'll tell you, man.
And like, okay, so we watched all the Spider-Man movies.
We did.
You are such a big Spider-Man fan that I was like, wow, what do you get a guy who loves Spider-Man so much?
So I didn't get you a Spider-Man thing.
Oh, okay, good, good, good.
What I decided to do was I know what you love more than anything else in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, especially upcoming.
So I wanted to make sure you got exactly what you wanted.
So if you can close your eyes.
Oh, I can close my eyes.
Okay, it's back.
It's the exact character you were hoping you would get.
It's the exact one.
He, if anyone loves Robert Downey Jr. is Dr. Doom.
This is hilarious.
It's 100% coin.
This is the most specifically directed at everyone but coin gift possible.
That's not true.
Robert Downey Jr.'s Robert Dumme Jr., the Funko Pop.
But I know that you're probably going to keep it encased.
So I want you to really know what it's like to experience.
The way how Doom has been building up his new battle world, you can now build Doom yourself.
That way you really, I hope by the end of this, that way you can connect with Robert Downey Jr's Dr. Doom.
I can build up my anticipation.
I exactly see, you got it.
Literally build up.
You get it, it's a Lego joke.
Ah?
It's a Lego joke.
I can construct the appeal.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
That's where it is.
Brick by.
Rick, I can get excited for this casting decision.
All road blood to this.
Oh, I love his eyes being so piercing.
All right, but in all serious.
He's kind of hitting on me.
Look at this.
Tell me that's not come hither eyes.
That's so out of focus.
There's no way to focus that is there.
How do I help?
Okay.
Look at him come hither.
Tell me that's not a little Robert smoldered.
Look at that.
Those eyes.
There it is.
Yeah.
There you go, baby.
That is Victor Vaughn bedroom eyes.
I can't wait for you to build that.
He's got the power of magic science and fuck me eyes.
Those are three integral tools.
I, you know, I'm already more sold because I want to fuck do.
There you go.
All right.
Well, okay.
All right, all right, all right.
You really love Spider-Man.
I do.
I do.
So I went out of the way to actually find you something pretty cool.
And since you love Spider-Man so much, can you please close your eyes.
I can't.
So a third do might
So who
Don't open your eyes
I will not
But just to show the audience how well I know coy
Don't open your eyes it
Grab who's your favorite spider man
Uh either in the live action
I mean Ben oh live action and undergradfield
Perfect now which Spider man do you like the least
Toby McGuire now open your eyes
So I got a son
I'm Dumi Jr. and assigned Toby Spider-Man to remember when I disagreed with all of pop culture, I do a pop culture show with Greg.
And Greg is like, hey, this is why you're wrong.
Because these are, this is literally the two castings where I was like, I think I just fundamentally don't understand what they were thinking there.
I could be proven wrong.
I know I'm right.
You will be hypnotized.
That's hilarious.
Okay, but I don't have your.
So last night when I was like, this is going to make me laugh for a few seconds,
I realized I should probably get him a sincere gift.
Two signed.
All right.
All right.
So I buy you a sincere gift last night.
It's not here.
And I was like, ah, you know.
I'll get him something nice.
It will not be amazing.
But I was like, this is going to be funny for a little bit.
Yeah.
He always gets,
Koi always gets like really good gifts and he always gets something he likes really from the heart.
I should probably get him.
I'm going to do the opposite for three rounds.
I'll make sure he knows what I think of him in return.
I hope the thing I think the thing I got you,
I think he's really cool.
We're not going to like unboxing on camera.
I think the thing I got you is really cool.
I hope that you don't already have it.
That was one of those things.
I hope it doesn't have this,
but it's pretty cool if he doesn't have it.
Anyway,
thank you for my doom and Toby combo gifts.
Yeah, there you go, buddy.
They might be in a movie together.
Maybe they're in a scene we're going to describe.
I don't know.
Can't wait.
Can't wait.
This is very funny.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
my sass. There's a lot of sass here
and I respect it. You take it home with you.
You guys are about to watch me watch three
Toby movies with Greg and him just be like
wow, you are really uncomfortable with this
casting decision. So he commemorated the
experience. Absolutely, brother.
From the heart. We spent hours
talking about this signatures person.
Excited.
Even though I hope, you were like, oh,
that's stayed. Yeah, it does not leave you.
Youth pastor Toby doesn't even
really have a dislike for that man.
He just has such a haunting presence.
Crazy.
He's so angry.
Crazy.
Crazy.
I feel like if I ran to him on the street, I'd be like, worried for safety.
Like, he's got such a like, you don't even meet people that have like an undercurrent of like rage.
Yeah, definitely.
He's got a thing.
Like when he had that paparazzi footage of him.
He's so scary.
Get out of the way, motherfucker.
I was like, oh, this seems like the real Toby.
This is, this is not a moment in time.
This is the real Toby McGuire.
At home, I'm like, that's who I think he is.
He's like, Tom Hardy's really intense.
I met Tom Hardy a bunch of times.
And I'm always like, coolest guy ever.
Tobin Bogiard would beat the fuck out of Tom Hardy because he's.
actually got the darkness.
I'm with you,
brother.
I'm going to do brother,
brother, butter.
We have pet names.
Hey, brother,
butter.
Like doom eyes.
All right,
ready to learn about these scenes
from Avengers End Game Encore?
As ready as I'm going to be
until I see it in five hours.
Okay.
All right.
We're going to go through the first scene.
Thank you guys for everyone
who's given early super chats,
by the way.
We were going to make sure to get through all of them.
All right.
So there's four scenes.
Four amazing scenes.
Four pinnacle,
life-changing scenes that we
I feel like this is a sarcastic as doom fun-go.
No, no, actually one of them, there's one of them that I really like a lot.
I was surprised by like, damn, even in like shitty camera footage, this is really intense.
So I was like, this is real.
There's the only scene I saw out of them that.
I hope I get a watch.
I like, I would love to see this one scene on the big screen.
Can I ask before you tell me them?
Are these newly shot or deleted scenes?
They're definitely sure.
They're definitely new.
They're all for doomsday.
Every single one is for doom.
Okay.
So there's nothing that.
enhances endgame, except for in the context of Doomsday.
Well, glad you asked.
So, scene one, how does Avengers end game end?
What's the final shot?
Credits with the hammering.
Okay, let's go back.
That's the final shot before the credits.
Oh, visually.
The credits are all like swoopy and people signing stuff.
Jesus Christ, Christ, what's the final shot right before the credits?
The finals, the dance, thank you.
My God, how hard was that?
We watched that nine movies ago, Greg.
I had to replay it.
Everybody knows the ending of Avengers.
I had to replay it from the end.
It's not that hard.
This is the one with popular endings in all of the audience.
Anyway.
Okay, got it.
Got it.
Dancing.
That's no longer the ending.
What the fuck?
There you go.
There you go.
We get an extra scene with a D.H.
Chris Evans.
That scene is still in it.
That scene's in it.
Okay.
And then there's a knock on the door.
So.
I feel like,
This is what the people want.
It's a knock on the door.
All right.
And then it cuts to this overhead shot of Steve and Peggy.
And they stop dancing.
And they both like look alarmed and intense.
Peggy stops the record.
It's quiet.
It's super intense.
And then Steve, he goes to hide behind the wall.
And he's like, hey, if there's something dangerous over there,
Peggy, you go open the door.
I think I think the indication is that when he goes to hide,
It's a clear sign that he's not supposed to be here, that he shouldn't be caught, right?
Then we hear a familiar voice that obviously comes in the form of Loki.
He goes, hi.
And then Steve looks around the corner.
He clearly recognizes the voice.
Peggy goes, can I help you?
Loki steps for the doorway, and he's dressed like the TVA analyst.
He's wearing the P coat, the same shot that kind of what he's wearing the shot that we saw in the Doomsday trailer.
And he goes, and then he says to Peggy, no, but I can help you.
and then Loki pauses and he knows Steve is on the other side of the wall.
Steve looks over at him and he goes both of you.
Steve slowly and then he stares at Loki's like mystified Loki stares back at Steve
directed by Anthony and Joe Rousseau.
I get needing to retroactively add things to tie it into the Loki season two
and how he, I think Loki's going to be a combination of like molecule man's purpose
and maybe even Kang.
Like, I think Loki's god of story element is going to be like maybe a power element,
but also like a mechanism for Doom to have more control,
could even lead the battle world.
So I can see how in endgame as it stood, he dies and isn't a factor.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like he gets killed by Thanos.
We don't really get Loki as like an integral piece.
So this is like his only appearance at endgame and it's new.
I get why that would be necessary.
But I hate that it precedes the credit.
Like something about it
Exactly.
Like something about it making the ending false.
I don't fuck with.
Like there's something that like if they had just done a fucking three post credit scenes or something like the movie sanctity.
It feels like I've been saying that Marvel is Star Wars for years because it is.
Like it's our generation Star Wars like it.
And at this point it's almost the same amount of time between the gap of like everyone being on like the prequel trilogy was what like 10 years after or 15 years after.
something like that yeah so this is like seven and a half like it's not quite the comp and we've had movies in between but it does feel like this is they're like trying to come back in a bigger way era and the special edition came out in between and that was like like when hansola like walks around job of the hut it's clearly added like that sort of shit this feels like that from the description like this feels like the special editionification but the difference is this those special editions were deleted scenes that were back they got added yeah yeah i'm saying this is that that
feeling but even kind of worse because it sacrifices the film's integrity exactly like i have literally
no issue with the actual scene itself no the problem is exactly it's like it's so crazy to me how
if you just waited like one more minute yeah it changes my whole as soon as you said their names i was
like it's it's kind of like when we watch far from home and it was brilliant to keep the post the big
credit scene like uh spider man's peter parker yeah that having that that way you have like an actual ending to
movie instead of some like it gets to be complete it gets to be complete and then you can set up your
next movie like that and i don't like messing with it and it just kind of makes me wonder too so
so this becomes my question and of the of the whole experience right let's let's say let's say in
the future when i'm around my like 15 to 20 children that i have well right and i'm like gold kids
olivia good luck now that we oh she's going to be churning me listen then and now that now that
you've avoided technology for 15 to 20 years because i am the ultimate parent who has allowed you
to not develop ADHD due to iPads and iPhones
because I am superior to all.
Now I'm going to show you the Marvel Cinematic Universe movies.
And then by the time we get to Avengers Endgame,
am I supposed to show them this version of Avengers Endgame?
This is a culmination of 23 films and they made it a dot, dot, dot.
They turned the culmination of three phases into a trailer.
But is the Russo saying this is what we should be doing now?
is we should be watching this version,
or am I supposed to watch end game
and then watch all the phase 4, 5, and whatever,
and then watch encore,
to remind you after Spider-Man brand-new day.
Yeah.
You see, like I know everyone probably is like,
dude, it's not a big deal.
You could just show your 15 to 20 children
the four post-credit scenes in the future.
I don't want to do that.
Have you messed with Disney Plus's player?
It loads terribly.
I don't want to go with that.
It's awful.
It's awful.
It's too much work.
It's too much.
$32.
Yeah, it's awful fucking insane.
It was seven bucks four years ago, five years ago.
And now it's 22 and they've gotten worse.
I can't wait for you to go promote their movie tonight.
I'd like to go host Avengers Endgame Encore at the El Capi Tan Theater.
Anyway, that's the scene.
And what do you think the bigger implication of the scene is that?
That they did something wrong and he has to clean it up as a member of the TVA.
It sounds like he is maybe pruning a branch or something is caused by Peggy and him dancing,
like the act, not the dance itself, but the act of him.
being there causes a this is too erotic for the 50s yeah see you guys are too close leave
that's taken hands there separate you're not married he's from the future um he has now the birth
significance uh to me it's an implication that it's throwing off some time thing yeah also like he wasn't
a tv a outfit when we last saw him because he was the god of stories so this would imply
a earlier loki to me as well but probably not due to a later scene that we have so part of me's
I've only gotten this far.
So let's say it's like Loki, the guy who's holding all the branches together, bored out of his mind.
He's bored?
I was thought he was like tripping balls, seeing stories like, fucking.
I don't know, he looks sad and bored at the end.
That is not a guy doing reactions.
That's true.
He's not face pulling.
He's not face pulling.
He's not a good thumbnail face.
I'm like, I want to watch with this guy's watch.
Tom, it'll sit and work here in YouTube games.
So, yeah, like one version, he could be, he could just be someone who like, I'm going to take a little break here.
Or I don't know how we do that.
puts down the stories.
Let's just like,
you guys are not here.
No,
I think it's an earlier one.
It's got to be.
Or he could be doing that.
What's the rule of multiverse of madness?
I totally forgot,
but isn't there something where you're like,
it can cause an incursion
if you project yourself somewhere?
We haven't rewatched that one yet.
I have no memory of like that.
There's something with that rule
that you can project your,
that's what Wanda does,
right?
She projects herself into it.
Something like that.
So maybe Loki's doing a version of that
and maybe that's contributing to incursions.
I love we're saying that for Doom.
And I was like,
Yeah, but he's not an Ironman variant.
It's got to be you you're walking into.
I'm glad you said.
So there's a...
I'm so fucking worried now.
I was already worried.
Now I'm fucking worried.
So there's a Loki.
Yeah, I'm like, why is Loki going out of his way to specifically help Captain America?
If he has access to all these stories, I don't recall him out of everyone.
He's like, you know what?
I'm going to make amends with Captain America.
He deserves it.
Don't you remember all the scenes they had together?
Loki impersonated Steve Rogers.
once that's the closest i think to them of having a relationship yeah and then uh and in avengers one
when uh loki's killing the people in new york yeah he's like the guys that make people bow
yeah yeah yeah and after that he was no they're very close yeah either way i feel like it's a good
set up scene that it's telling us that the tv is going to be really involved and then loki's
going to be actually important like actually with all these the scenes and we're going to by the
time i get to the third scene it does really hammer home that loki the show is incredibly important
I'm excited to watch that.
I will say, however, this does cement the concern I have.
I love the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Again, I'm honored to be hosting this event, and I've loved it from the beginning,
but it has turned other mediums into, oh, that show was canceled.
Why would I watch it?
Oh, that universe is ending.
Why would I watch what's left?
I remember when the DC-EU ended.
There was like two movies left, and everybody was like, well, that's ending.
Why would I watch those movies?
And I was like, for the two hours of the movie.
Like, why wouldn't you want the experience of the movie?
like everything isn't to set up something else.
Like movies are meant to be complete.
And like we talked about far from home, it's complete.
And then the ellipsies, this format of ending it is the exact thing I worry about with serialized content.
Like it doesn't, it makes it not complete.
Yeah, I agree.
Okay.
So then we get an actual, we get two mid credit scenes.
Okay.
They didn't want to do three.
So they did two mid credit scenes.
And it takes place after the events of brand new day, obviously, because you see Bruce
Banner and he's alone in an underground.
military bunker. Can you pull up this photo of what this is not a screenshot, but he's got a beard.
So Mark Ruffalo Beard, can you see that? Oh, it's beautiful. That's something.
He looks great. I love this. Something akin to that. He's got what I'm going for here.
So, but it's like vlog phone footage is what we're looking at here. And he's saying that it's part
of like a joint base military complex located approximately two miles beneath the surface of the earth.
He's recording a video diary.
And it's like you see security camp footage.
It's concrete walls.
He's talking about how he suffered his first incident over a decade, obviously
for a brand new day.
Since then, he's left himself in self-containment in this joint-based military complex.
And then he explains how secure this place is.
And he's like, the hoax not getting out of here.
And no one else is getting in.
He mentioned some stuff about whatever the hell he's been doing during his isolation,
about experimenting.
And then he moves his camera near a war.
workstation.
There's several monitors, and then you see like 3D scans of a Hulk-like body.
He's basically been experimenting a new gamma suppression serum.
And he's like, I like to demonstrate some of my findings.
But while Bruce is saying this, the lights above them begin to glitch.
It's kind of like found footage horror movie.
Like the footage starts glaring out.
We hear a strange, like the warbling magic sound.
A green glow appears.
And it shines across Bruce's face somewhere off to the right.
And he goes, no.
So then the video feed cuts off momentarily.
Then we hear Bruce again, and he is addressing whoever it is in this bunker, which is obviously who it is.
He goes, who are you?
Then the voice answers him.
And he says, Mr. Banner.
However he does it.
However, Dr. Dume's new voices.
Mr. Banner.
Really?
I am Dr. Dume.
His fucking voices.
I just think of grew whenever I hear.
And then you see a flash of Doom's.
magical run
and then he goes
I'm here to
collect you
and immediately
afterwards you hear
kind of Mark
Ruffalo he leaps
from the strain
you can tell
he's morphing
into the Hulk
based off of his voice
then the camera jitters
out fucking
does that
found footage
trope where it
falls over
to land on the
exact shot
the audience needs to see
and what you see
on the ground
is Dr. Doom's
ruin
that the one
on the symbol
that he has
burning with a
bright green light
so what do you
think of
And it's obvious where this sets up, but what do you think of him collecting Bruce Banner?
Do you think he wants Bruce or does he want the Hulk?
And yeah, what are your thoughts on?
What's your immediate reaction of what do you think is going on of why he's collecting him?
I had only heard one rumored post-credit scene.
And all I heard was that it was Hulk and Doom.
And this was like a week ago.
And I theorized it was going to be like the Hickman run.
It was going to be Maestro and Doom.
Like that was like, again, I...
Please elaborate.
So Maestro is a alternate universe Doom who,
is from the future. Think of like else worlds in DC or think of like the multiverse and Marvel.
He's an alternate take and he has this badass, you know, bowl hair like the bald on top and long on the
sides. But he's like a dictator tyrant world ruler. Maestro's like a big bad. Like he's like
the ultimate in a smart Hulk that gone awry. So he's every bit as intelligent as banner,
but in the Hulk body and he's evil. He's integral to doom and
that world.
I, however, think this is not that.
Because when you said Hulk Doom
as a rumor, I was like, well, that's what I'd do.
Instead, this seems like
maybe he needs
Hulk's strength, and he thinks
he can manipulate Hulk,
not Banner. Like, maybe he needs
or on the other side, like maybe he needs Banner's
mind for something with the incursion events, like
maybe the time travel element, because Banner's
one that invented time travel.
It's my instinct to be like, you know, if everyone's living on
Stolen Time.
He did is the one who, I mean, him and Tony together cracked it.
Yeah.
But like if he's the one that was developing that and he needs something, maybe with his own thing, if we're all living on stolen time, that was one of the elements of the trailer, maybe banner is integral to that, not Hulk.
Hmm.
Well, he gets him when he, I mean, he's turning into Hulk because, of course, he's being provoked.
Right.
Right.
What is this guy coming into my banner?
But we don't know if he came there for Hulk or for banner.
And he says banner according to it.
Yeah, he says Mr. Banner.
Not Mr. Hulk.
Right.
So like, my instinct is there.
He's there for.
banner.
Aren't there like multiple hulks at one point?
There's many in Secret Wars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a whole thing with that, right?
Yeah.
It's like Oldman Loganish where there's like hell of hulks.
Yeah.
But Maestro is a big bad and like he would want to work with Doom's goals.
But I see this as a banner scene, not a Hulk scene.
It just involves Hulk being out.
I do.
I mean, they're saying that it confirms he's going to be in Doomsday, but audience who's
watching, please correct in the live chat.
And right, pay the fuck attention if they correct.
Is they, the date, did anyone confirm,
like officially that Mark Ruffalo will be in Doomsday or is this a setup for Secret Wars?
Because I feel like it would be more for Secret Wars.
I think it would be kind of cool to actually have a scene set up.
That's set a build.
Yeah.
Because we used to do that like where it was like a movie away.
Yeah.
I mean now with Avengers Endgame Encore, you're going to watch this.
Then you're going to watch Phase 4, 5.
And then what phases is this?
I already forgot.
We're in Phase 4.
This would be the end of Phase 3 technically, this movie, Encore.
But what is Doomsday?
Doomsday is Phase 6.
And it's not
We're in phase six
Check the tapes
I think it's six
These phases
These phases are no longer
Clearly defined
No because we didn't have
An Avengers at the end each one
Okay yeah
Phase four ends with Wakanda forever
Slightly confused
Okay
And then phase five ends with thunderbolts
Phase four ends up Wakanda forever
90% sure
Check that types
Check okay phase four
Phase four
It ends with the one of
Oh it ends with the Guardians
Holiday special well that seems
Okay so we are in phase six
Yeah I knew it was face four
six. Could you see what movie ends phase four for me? Because I think it is Wakanda forever.
Yeah. Good for you. I'm glad you remember that. Well, I just, I remember it being like,
kind of the culmination of sadness. And I thought thematically it was interesting because we've
been watching phase four and it's so much about family. And then Wakanda's like a loss of family,
but it was like for the whole, it felt like that was the culmination. But then phase five felt a little bit
more indistinct because like the new Avengers film, Thunderbolts is the ending. But it didn't feel like
an emotional resonating end. It felt like, well, we kind of have.
had an Avengers so over.
And now phase six,
I don't think
Secret or Doomsday ends
phase six.
I mean,
I think Secret Ors ends it not Doomsday,
which would make it.
So there's two Avengers movies in a phase,
which is even weirder than having no Avengers movie in a phase to me.
But isn't phase three,
two Avengers movies?
Yeah,
because the one to punch.
But that felt like they were paired.
And they keep saying like,
you don't want it to feel like Doomsday into Secret Wars is the same thing.
So I would have thought they would try to make it more.
But then there's only two movies.
Right? Like as I what's between the oh there's no fucking movies between yeah so they have to
Yeah cool all right sorry about scene three I love it. I would have yeah phase six end with doomsday and phase seven start with but I guess it doesn't matter. It's all fucking that's true. That's true. Okay. Well, we love your pontificating. You know here I'm one here I'm one here and wonder thoughts and this is what people love guys you want a reaction. Yeah
left right straight. Okay. Doom bedroom eyes scene three. All right. So this is one where I'm just gonna give you I'm gonna try to I'm gonna try to I'm gonna try to condense this down a
little bit actually because this is the longest scene it's my favorite scene of them this is the one
that i'm like this is the one you're like oh i wish we watched this one in the theaters
wish you came with me i invited gregg by the way can't don't time much so much to do shet your moose
dink cook i still quote him that's right so the third scene takes place that the time of very
hello you must be struck by a vehicle i'm a car gasoline is my blood back seat
Trunk space.
We're seven.
Yeah, we're old.
The third scene takes place
at the time variance authority.
It begins with Miss Minutes.
She's addressing the TVA.
And one of the lines that she actually says is there's a whole mess of universes out there.
Our job is keeping them tidy and safe,
which I feel like is indicative of the fact that,
you know,
they're not trying to prune timelines anymore,
that they're whatever,
however season two ends.
It's like coexisting and just keeping things good.
So now they're monitoring multiple universes instead of just one sacred timeline.
Blah, blah, blah.
She says some stuff.
You see an employee of all time image and it's of Loki.
And then there's Mobius.
Owen Wilson's Mobia, exactly.
And he approaches Casey and Obie or Boris, Ki-Hu Kuan, who are studying something on the TVA monitors.
And what they, what OB points out is that it's a level one incursion.
And he identifies the two universes involved, which.
is universe 1,0005, and 1127 are about to collide.
He checks the information, and then Mobius is kind of like, okay, I did not read about
this in the Skydun Report, I don't remember.
Could it have slipped through the cracks for old Mobius, something like that?
And he notices something strange happening between them.
There's this visual of the Earths that are like outlined, and then it looks like there's
missiles flying at each other.
They're just like, it looks like nuclear war missiles kind of like a drawings.
Yeah, that's how they're going to take each other out.
Missiles.
Are those, KCAS, are those missiles?
Are they fire?
And then Mobius asks, are they firing at each other?
And on the TVA display, we see two Earths facing one another.
I don't think it's, I think it's one of these Earths is, wait, let me just make sure I got my facts right.
Okay.
Yeah.
So Earth 1-0-005 is the Fox X-Men universe.
Earth 1127 is a universe we haven't identified yet.
Okay, I was like that one in the sound familiar.
Okay.
And then other people, I don't feel like you would catch this when you're watching it because people have to really like stop and look at shit.
There are some other monitors that they see where they, it's not confirmed, but there's Earth 483, which is the 2003 Eric Banna Hulk reality.
The 15886, which is 2015 Fantastic 4 and Earth 8211, which is the what if universe.
So they bring in the maker.
So the indication is like these are also being destroyed, right?
each earth is trying to take out each other before they collide as what's going on.
Then another technician, okay, yeah.
So obviously they're trying to destroy one another.
And then the TVA tech points out, wait, we got another one.
And Mobius thinks there might be a problem with the system.
Then someone else speaks up.
We have a third.
The situation is escalating.
One of the TVA monitors we see collide with one another.
Both universes explode.
The music becomes like very fucking ramped up.
We got a full alert now.
Give me a count.
Then the TVA text,
this starts stacking on one another
from just different texts.
20 universes.
I got 100, 300.
And then the last one that's listed,
3,000,
which I think is kind of cheeky because I love you,
3,000.
Yeah.
All the thing I hate you,
3,000 people get their concurrency.
So there's 3,000 universes now involved.
And the scene ends with like everyone
with this devastation look.
And OB says the multiverse is collapsing.
Then it cuts to black.
I'm not that like some details, but that's like the main shit you would need to know.
Yeah, yeah.
I like that scene.
It's the, it is a good scene.
I think when you watch it, you're going to be like, oh, this is cool.
I think what.
Interestingly, to me, the first thing I think of before we can get to the scene is, is Miss Minutes saying, you know, we keep the things tidy.
I actually haven't considered they might do.
Some of the nerdier comics allow you to be aware that you're in one designated universe.
and that big events like DC's crisis events
or times where universes collide,
I can see them keeping more characters alive
and have our universe 616 or 1-99-99-9-9-9-9,
whatever you want to call it,
as like we leave that.
And then we have the X-Men and stuff in another universe.
And that way in like 10 years we could come back to this universe
and have like a big event again
where it's like, remember Chris Edison?
Z-60 now.
Like we could, you know, do a return to that.
I hadn't considered that idea.
So just for some reason, like, this scene reminded me that we could go really nerdy,
allow this to be like the ending of the universe as we know it, not end it,
but then we could revisit it after like people get bored of whatever's next.
But the scene itself, multiverse is collapsing.
Obviously, that's your big conflict.
I love that Owen Wilson's in a fucking this important of a Marvel universe scene.
Like, for whatever reason, I've really fallen in love with that character.
and I never thought he'd be like in game encore.
So it's really cool to hear that like him and Kee Kwan are like an integral element to set up Doomsday.
But yeah, you got two scenes that are implying like Loki, the show is important.
Like you got you guys.
It sounds like the most.
If it's the first scene we see that ends end game now.
Yeah.
And the last, is this the last scene?
No, it's not.
I'm worried.
I think the last scene is going to have you.
The last scene is like a second.
but I think it's good.
I just can't wait.
What are your thoughts on the scene before we leave behind?
I'm now very concerned.
What do you mean my thoughts on it?
I think you explained it.
I mean,
that,
it's just explaining every,
I feel like this is really just a good explainer.
It's a really cool,
like summation of phase four and five in one scene.
I forgot how the story ended with Mobius,
but he got the jet ski.
Yeah,
I mean,
there's a shot where I think he's like looking at
maybe just having his family again
or ending all this.
Yeah,
He's looking at his house.
I forget what.
We're going to watch it.
We're going to watch it again.
I'm very excited for it.
We're going to do a rewatch for it, like a binge for it.
We've binged Wanda Vision.
It was so intense to watch it that way because it's like a different show.
I'm really curious how Loki feels.
I'm so excited.
I should watch the two seasons back to back.
But anyway.
That's the shot.
Look at that man looking at a house.
But I, like, you tell.
So hot right now.
Like you confirmed to me that Mobius is in it.
That's more excited to me than banner.
It's so funny.
I agree.
Yeah.
Like I'm like, yeah.
Big Mobius guy.
Like it's just so crazy that you can,
that's why when people want comics to be direct translations,
I think that's short-sighted,
because you tell someone that reads comics,
you're going to be more excited for Mobius than Hulk.
That's not going to happen.
But in the medium of film,
with actors and connection and storytelling
in a different medium,
you can have a character like Mobius be so impactful.
And not that Hulk isn't, but lately.
Yeah.
Also, I'm a little bummed.
I didn't say it before,
but like I was really hoping brand new day
would lead to some internal.
Hulk shit.
Like I thought maybe he goes to like a mental institution
and like we do like some.
What they were going to do with Ed Norton's Hulk?
I think that'd be awesome.
We got to dooms and see what.
We got half them smart. Come on.
We got doom's answer course.
After that I'd like some fucking
infernal Hulk or even Immortal Hulk.
I don't know if they'd ever go full horror,
but that'd be dope as shit.
Anyway.
Yeah. Everyone's been asking for that for many,
many, many, many, many years.
It's not happening.
This Hulk is like,
it sounds like he's back to not be able to control it,
which is excited.
like that could get me back on the Hulk train
well it seems like he's pick
every it seems like every single
time we catch up with Hulk it's kind of the same thing
of like I got this under control
I've got it under control it's out of control
I've got some of control it's out of control
but even in that scene with the banner
he looks he doesn't look like
truly distraught yeah just kind of
looks like calm cool Mark Ruffalo he just got
the beard the aesthetic to look distraught
he's like well I'm down here
but he's feeling confident that he
that he has it this time guys
this one time for sure.
I got this shit locked in.
I think this last one is the best sounding scene,
but also the most like linear.
It's the best shot.
It plays like a real scene.
Like a full real scene.
It feels like out of the Loki show.
Cool.
Yeah.
Again,
freaking Mobius.
Because Owen Wilson too is that this is the only character where every character
to me that Owen Wilson plays Owen Wilson.
This is the one time I surrender to an actual character from it.
Also, I really thought that was last we'd see him.
I'm really, I'm like relieved.
Yeah.
Like I always, you know, I was assuming we'll see more Hulk.
I wasn't like counting on more Mobius after ZE2.
I thought like I'd have to watch him sail away on a jet ski.
Like I'm very happy that we get potentially doomsday Mobius.
Yes.
That's exciting.
Now ruin my day.
No, man.
This is not going to be that bad.
All right.
So what was the actual post credit scene from Avengers end game?
It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a Iron Man in the cave.
Because I always thought it was cheeky that Iron Man started everything in a,
in a cave with scraps.
So I,
I always saw it as a combination of
finishing as you started,
but also like,
the labor that went into the universe.
So like to me,
the metaphor was like,
the credits are all the people
that labored and worked throughout these,
you know,
the film particular,
but also like metaphorically all three phases.
So it's the work that went into these movies.
Like it was a celebration of work
and cyclical thinking.
True.
Yeah.
I love how there was like no imagery either.
Yeah.
I thought that was incredible.
Now there's images.
Oh, good.
So it's a same.
That's the face of happiness right there.
I just said how beautiful the stimulus.
Oh.
It's the clanging still.
Can we undermine both the end of the movie and the metaphorical end of their faces?
Tune in to find out.
It's the same strikes.
You get a quick visual flash.
And it's like, ding, ding, ding, ding, psh, ding, ding,
kind of like that.
It's like a rhythm to it.
So not every ding is a flash.
Every other ding is a little flashes.
You get three flashes.
And it's the images of Downey and Ironman.
So, yeah, it kind of looks like that.
So you have a quick visual flash.
A hammer comes down against metal.
Bing.
Another flash.
Metal being forged.
Bing.
And then we realize that because he holds a mask, it's the Doctor Doom mask instead.
Bing.
The doctor's supposed to look like, oh, this is the Tony start.
Oh, no.
This is him building the Iron Man mask.
And it looks like, it looks like the Iron Man scene in a way.
It's that's immediately what it's evoking.
And then they do another ding and it's a close-up on Doom's eyes.
Like this is him forging the mask, but they're overlaying it with the Tony Stark clinging instead.
And it's making, it's obviously supposed to remind you of Iron Man and then showing the mirror and the parallels.
And if there's any indication that he is indeed a variant, I feel like this scene is really hammering.
Hammering that home.
So no matter how many times, Koi wants to already.
you with they're not going to show
he's not a variant they're not going to show
his family he might not
be a variant
I to me though it's like
they took the iron man hammering
iconic scene then they
overlaid it with images that at first make
you think you're just watching an iron man
scene then you're like oh no it's the doctor
it's Dr. Doom doing the hammering the for
fortune though let's hope so like maybe it's only
in this shit I love how the way your brain works
it's a good gimmick
maybe it stays here yeah and then we
never see his fucking face.
I'm sure that.
I'm sure you're going to have the exact same emotion when you actually see the scene
that's supposed to make you feel like, oh, it's like Iron Man, but Dr. Doom,
that's 100% what the scene is doing.
Dr. Doom is so important.
He cannot be Iron Man light.
If people thought it was bad that Spider-Man had an iron suit,
and it made him like Little Stark Jr.,
which is not nearly as bad as we put it into the Zite guys.
Like we just watched all three.
We just watched all of them.
And I remember being so like,
oh,
Iron Man Jr.
With Homecoming,
not as much Tony Stark.
And it works.
The second one is the one.
But Star Tech is like,
oh,
no,
no,
but that's different than Iron Man Jr.
It's the second movie that was like,
everyone thinks he wants to be the next Spider-Man,
like the next Iron Man.
And it's like,
no he doesn't.
No one ever said that.
And the mystery was like,
T-D is.
And it like works for villainy.
But like,
that was the like,
we both commented,
that seemed to come out of nowhere.
He didn't suddenly want to be an Avenger again.
he'd already made the mature decision.
If they do that with Doom
and actually do the thing
people thought was going wrong
with Spider-Man, but actually do it
with a character as important
as Doom, I'm worried.
Because this scene is that.
Like, casting the actor,
Robert Downey Jr., shouldn't have anything
to do with casting the guy that played Iron Man.
Like, it should be a good salesperson,
a questionable how it's going to happen,
the mystery element.
but like the character of Tony Stark has nothing to do with Victor
the actor
Chris Evans playing Human Torch
is cheeky to be used in Deadpool as a joke
because Captain America but like there's nothing fun
there's no like punchline and if there's any sort of
I'm back to my top concerns Greg
I'm back to like fucking Comic Con announcement coy when they're like
Downy I'm like what the fuck
that's why I got she those birthday presents
So I can be reminded.
I can look around my office and go,
that was the day I lost faith again.
I can go,
hey,
September 25th,
2026,
I grew concerned.
I'm with you,
honestly,
like,
he's not Iron Man.
It was,
if it was the,
I don't care if you get a Dr.
Doom scene,
but there's something about
stripping away,
I don't like the idea of that
if the Avengers End Game,
uncle,
I don't mind if these scenes are,
are canon.
It's the idea that,
Avengers Endgame Encore is the version you have to watch or this is the this movie is the canon version
when you're going to be experiencing the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Like I don't like this in replacement of Avengers Endgame.
It just makes it a TV.
And I think because I feel like that movie.
I don't enjoy that.
And I don't like the idea of that being the ending before the credits roll with Steve and Loki.
And I don't like the I don't like the clean.
But can you imagine if you do show someone this instead of Avengers End Game when they're doing their
marathon. They watch Avengers Endgame encore and then they got to wait fucking forever. And then
Loki kind of just plays like a prequel to this post credit scene that you that you watch.
It also undermines. I mean, if Iron Man and Doom had anything to do with each other, it undermines
both characters like devastatingly. But it also like really fucks up that perfect ending with
cap and Iron Man. Yeah. That's what I mean. It does. It does mess with the purity of it.
It really does. Again, set the scenes that are the problem. It's kind of like where he decided to make them
where you should be experiencing them is the
is the weirder part.
Again, like,
this is not going to be the version that most people have watched.
Yeah.
Well,
we'll watch.
Most people just watch these fucking scenes and call it today.
But yeah,
I didn't.
I wasn't,
like a lot of people,
but the thing is,
people love the,
all the scenes.
And they love the Dr.
Doom hammering.
I was like,
I don't know why I'm not a fan of,
like,
the fact that they've replaced this.
I don't like it.
I don't like that they,
the actual end of the movie
is completely.
leading Chris Evans' arc, and that's now not.
And I don't like that the end of the saga is completing a trilogy of phases.
Like that's an unprecedented achievement, 23 films all tying in together and
ceremoniously wrapping it up with the sounds of the first film is so beautiful.
Now it's not.
That's like, you know, like just as an art piece, that sucks.
But watch the scenes on your own and all four are pretty damn cool.
And I'm excited to, like, I'm seeing it tonight.
And I like, but it's more about.
what's that there was a there was a a painting of uh of jesus that they like fixed up and now he looks
like the screaming fucking can you pull up this is what we're doing jesus painting fixed
and they might actually that might be enough let that might be enough okay uh restoration
okay look at that shit okay look at the first one that is how they restored the one the
second one. See the second one?
There's actually the two together. Artnet
News. Do you see that, Ray? That's two of them
side by side. That is
legit a restoration.
That's what I feel like.
This is what the ending feels like.
The one on the left was before they restored it.
The one on the right was the restoration.
That's what happened to that piece of art.
That's the restoration. That's real life.
This is what it feels like, Greg.
This is what that's what the end of my perfect
two arcs feels like is they did that.
that's what it feels
that feels like
that Loki knocking on the door
we had something special
and it was the culmination
of a lot of people's beliefs
and faiths
and then someone's like
Yolo
yeah
I feel like
well let me
let me let me ask some
let me let me let me ask some
yes John
so this this scene
um
of Loki
knocking on Steve's door
do you not like that scene
but the idea of that scene.
Do you not like the idea of just even interrupting Doomsday?
I mean, uh, endgame, that endgame scene?
Just the knocking.
Well, not just the knocking, but like the whole scene that plays out.
I'm going to record.
I don't think that, um, like even if it's not in the words place, like, are you not a fan
of this idea?
Movie should have endings.
Yeah, but I'm saying like, let's just say this scene was just a mid-credit scene.
Would that, would bother me as much?
It would still would bother me some because I think that they should have kept Steve Rogers that
we've known having an ending.
Yeah.
And now he doesn't.
And if we're going to be playing with variance, it's very fucking simple to make that a
different, Steve Rogers, and we'll have the same emotional connection, but we'll also
have the catharsis of that character getting an ending.
So I don't love it.
But I love it even less if it's like tacked on to the end of the movie.
Because it means like a three hour movie is a set up for another movie.
It makes a movie a trailer.
And like there should be structure.
Like movies should end.
So I wonder if when we watch Endgame now, if audiences will be like, oh, but it's
second from now.
that's when Loki's supposed to come in?
Like does it affect even if you just watch the theatrical version,
but having the knowledge of what's supposed to happen next?
I just think that, you know, like, again, the Star Wars thing.
Like, if you watch Star Wars,
I'm not waiting for Han Solo to step on Jabba's Tale,
but I know that scenes out there and that's a weird scene.
I'm going to feel like that, I think.
But it's more about like that scene is like a fun extra scene.
It's not the end of the character.
My issue is like, that's the end of the character.
That's Steve Rogers' journey.
The whole entire beautiful part of that scene is it's him actually getting to stop being a soldier.
And now it's like he got to stop being a soldier for three to six minutes.
How long was the song?
Like it makes it makes everything in ellipses.
And I get that comic books are weekly.
I know more about comics than most people.
But there are ends to stories.
Like every there's a beautiful comic called whatever happened in The Man of Tomorrow.
And it's, uh, yeah, yeah, you have me read that.
Yeah.
It's Alan Moore writing the end of pre-crisis Superman.
Yeah.
That means canonically, the Superman that was from the 40s got an ending and it's beautiful and it's a really cool story.
That doesn't undermine the fact that we got another Superman.
Certainly not.
And as times and stories evolve, that's the beauty of comic books.
That's the beauty of serialized stuff.
But I also love that that story could or could not count depending on how you want to see it.
This makes it so filmmaking has a malleability that kind of undermines all of it.
Right?
Like there's a difference of mediums.
There's a difference in storytelling.
telling there's a difference in impact if everything is just like, oh, we could just go back and change it.
Yeah.
You know, like, um, so I, I don't think my issue is that like, I remember thinking when I was a kid,
the special editions was just old people, because at the time when you're 15, old is like anything
over 20.
But like people that grew up on these were just mad because they changed something.
It's not about the change.
It's about the integrity.
I agree.
And that's why I pulled up the Jesus because it's about the integrity.
And if anyone looks like Jesus is Loki.
Yeah.
And Jared Leto.
I mean, but the chat, how's the chat been responding to these scenes and any like rough general indication of how it is?
Loki's Dreamwalking.
Some people believe that too.
But I mean like, I don't know.
I feel like when I go online, everyone's like super, super duper hyped about all this stuff.
And like I said, they're all really good scenes.
They're all really good scenes.
And especially the TVA scene, I thought was great.
So leave it to you guys in the comments.
Do we got some, I think I saw some super chats coming in.
So let's take a break to do some super chats.
Yeah.
And then we're going to talk about dynamic duo or Daredevil.
Maybe we should close out the Daredevil, the MCU shit.
And then we'll talk about Dynamic Duo.
Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, I like that.
Yeah.
Thank you to everyone who's here.
If you can leave a like, that would be amazing.
Wow.
I should have put this on slower mode mode because, uh, yeah, there's a lot of things.
These comments are coming in fast.
I'm trying to like, just read the chat right now.
My God.
Everyone's mad at me for not liking change.
but they're probably 12 and I was like that when I don't think everyone is mad at you the ones I saw not everyone's mad at you I was mad at change and they are probably children I get it the ones that sit out to Koi are the ones that's what I see if you showed positivity and love I don't feel a thing like doctor doom okay all right so let's get to it uh we won't read every single one of these uh but so after doing some of this then we're going to go on to the daredevil story Michael Bedina also
still waiting for my two,
nope, I'm in the run.
No, my bad.
Stephen McGreary.
There you go.
Should I see Avengers Endgame encore,
an IMAX or 40X,
Infinity Vision?
Really want to see it in IMAX,
but heard rumors about Infinity Vision,
love from the UK.
Infinity Vision sounds a bit like a hack to me,
honestly.
I'm not,
it's a label.
It sounds,
because when I went to go buy tickets,
I remember when the tickets came out,
and I was every single screen.
It was so many.
There's every,
it's every auto,
it's every auto.
They're all, they're all fucking Infinity Vision, especially out here.
I don't know what's like for you guys who are not in L.A., but in L.A., I'm like, every auditorium
like that are back to back to back showings is Infinity Vision.
So I'm like, this can't be like a premium format.
It's meant to be like the theaters that could be up to a certain standard, but I don't know what the standard is.
It's just a standard.
Yeah, it could be like just if you have like the laser projector, it could be a certain sound standard, which could mean there are theaters that are just not updated that maybe don't get that certification.
Yeah.
But like, I didn't see any non, but we're in the media capital of the West Coast.
Sure.
So like, I don't know if it's because we're boozy doches or if it's just everything.
I don't know.
But also IMAX and I love IMAX, but IMAX is also just a label.
Like IMAX used to be a certain size of screen and that's not true anymore.
It used to be a certain ratio of seating rake.
That's not true anymore.
They shoot this with a special type of IMAX cameras.
It's like it takes up more of the screen in a way that feels natural.
Like I once saw episode three, Phantom Minutes.
No. Nope.
Nope.
The Sith.
My God.
Revenge of the Sith.
Jesus.
Oh, that's what?
That happened.
So I once saw episode three and they, they just stretched it and it look terrible.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, but they shoot this with actual, like, expanding cameras.
They might have better quality.
I feel like especially, like, they see that IMAX is a big money maker for a.
Oh, yeah.
They know they need to have a.
Oh, wait a minute, though.
Oh, on game encore, not doomsday.
Yeah, okay.
It's not on IMAX, Doomsday.
Oh, happy days.
Good afternoon, fellow,
has been loving the MCU rewatch.
Thank you.
I think, is it this Monday?
I think this Monday we start doing our Spider-Man releases,
because we have no way home coming up.
So we were like, let's do the Spider-Man movies,
and then we'll culminate to no way home.
I've been here four or five days a week.
Greg has been here seven days a week because Greg's here when I'm not here,
and I've been here a lot.
So we got a lot of footage coming to you guys.
Got a lot of Greg and Coy.
Yep, team enough.
with mixed opinions on Spider-Man movies.
That was an up-and-down experience.
Greg loves Homecoming.
I wasn't mean when we watched it.
And he got me.
I liked it.
Shooted in to find out.
I liked it when it's,
whatever.
It's fine.
It's fine movie.
It's the definition of a fine,
okay, Spider-van movie.
Spider-Man 3 elicid strong emotion.
That was a hot.
That reaction, that's the thing.
Like, people like,
there's some pause frames of that.
I don't know.
When he was like, it's fine.
Like, it's, it's, you hate it or you're like, I don't know, I kind of like it.
Dude, there's some moments in there where Greg and Coy are watching different movies.
I dig on, dig on this.
Dig on this.
I do love this so good.
The pie scene is fucking hard.
I see, I see 23.
Hi, guys.
I personally think that the banner, Hulk, thank you for the super chat, that the banner
Hulk scene should have been the end of Spider-Man brand new day.
What are your thoughts?
I don't think they wanted to put a doom scene in a Sony movie.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
No, I don't, I feel like just with the way the movie, the way we vibe with that kind of film,
because that movie feels like more than just some like event, we saw the Spider-Man movies.
Yeah.
And there's, I remember any day special.
It's not, like a, like a film.
And it finishes.
Like, there's people who don't.
It's an ending.
It's people like red letter media who don't like a lot, who don't like these kind of things most of the time.
And they, I saw their review and they were like, they really like that movie.
And I'm like, damn, even these guys are really like this movie.
Because it is more of like a film film and less of a little one.
Like, let's set up a bunch of future stuff.
And I don't know.
I like where it ended with Hulk there.
And I feel like it's more appropriate to put here.
I can understand the reasoning why, but I feel like just vibe wise.
It fits better.
Yeah, I agree.
Evan Baker.
Hey, Evan.
Hello, good sirs.
Just wanted to say you're both crushing the fitness journey.
Coy, your transformation videos on IG are such an inspiration.
And Greg, have you done that Sparta race yet?
I did.
I did great, actually.
I was surprised by how good I did.
How did it go?
Love the both of you.
Appreciate it, man.
We love exercising.
Coy and I are both on up and down weight gains.
I weighed in today.
I'm only 2.1 pounds heavier than my wedding, which I thought that would have slipped a lot.
I really was great.
But I had only got up four pounds.
I dropped the two, so it showed that it was very flexed the weight.
You look great, though.
Thank you.
It was scary when you let go and you're like, oh, no, I have to rebuild habits.
Like, habits fall off way easier than they get tacked on.
so would you lose a habit?
It's way hard to, like, rebuild.
So I recently had some eye trauma.
So I haven't been able to work out
because I can't balance at all.
And I fall over a lot.
So I'm working on rebuilding
and learning how to work out
in a different deficit.
Hell yeah, butter.
Aging.
Better, brother.
Butter, butter.
Isaac, do you guys think
there will be barons of black?
Black and white, the void?
Black Widow of the Void.
Bonnie Walker, the void.
Black Widow in the Void?
Maybe that's what's happy with Bruce Banner.
I hope we get to see Maestro.
What's the BW stand for?
Barons of Boardwalk.
Barons of...
What is BW here?
I don't know what it means.
Guys in the chat, can you help us understand what this means?
I feel dumb.
Barons of BW?
The void.
I don't know.
what that means. Barons BW.
All right. There's a VW.
That's good. That's good.
BW in the void.
I have black and white. I don't understand.
Battle world.
There's a battle world.
That makes so much. I think there's just too many things that are BW.
I do feel we deserve. We deserve every comment that we get.
The gap was just long enough to us to look like fools.
Oh, God.
That's embarrassing.
Yeah, battle,
I don't know how we.
Yes.
We cannot put it together.
Wow.
I couldn't even remember the subtitle for episode three.
Maybe that's what is happening with Bruce Banner.
I hope we see Maestro.
Yeah, I mean, that's exactly what Corey was talking about earlier.
Yeah, I think that's possible and likely.
I also, it's tricky because I do feel like a lot of that imagery was used in old man
Logan, which was then, of course, used in Deadpool and Wolverine and Logan.
So I don't know if we'll do like, you know, some of the imagery will feel.
familiar so they'd have to mix it up a little. Yeah. Well, the thing is, I feel like we pitch a lot of
ideas, like as audience members, theories and such, and then we look at comics, but like Secret Wars is a
very complex, complicated comic. It's not someone you could, it's something you could just
adapt and throw an audience member into. It's fucking crazy. It's dense. It's got a lot of lead-up,
which I don't think they've had the chance to do a lot of the necessary lead-up. And for these movies that
need to make $2 billion now.
Yeah.
They're not,
they're not going to,
they're not going to simplify the shit out of that.
No,
they got to make sure it's for like everybody.
Like not just like the people that would follow that kind of.
But you look at,
you know,
like across the spider verse introducing Canada events and into the
spider verse introducing like quantum theory.
Those were impressive linear concept.
Like making big concepts linear.
I think it is possible.
I just don't know if secret wars would take that
much of a swing.
I think the secret wars.
especially Hickman one has the ethereal
sci-fi headiness
that I don't feel like we'll be
present. Yeah. I think it'd be cool if we got some
like fucking medieval shit. So do I. I think that'd be awesome.
That's kind of what I was leaving. It would surprise me. It would surprise me. I think we
could get at least some medieval in
in secret wars. Let's hope. Yeah, because they need to make it
different. They've done a lot of Avengers. I see
I see 23. Also thank you
R.R. and Koi for your streams. I listen to them
in my car on my way too.
And from work, keep it up, but also take the time to recharge during the upcoming busy season of pop culture greatness.
Yeah, we're looming.
We do have a lot.
So, I'm so tired.
Goy's going to be leaving town for his honeymoon.
He's going to be gone for a couple weeks.
And if we don't get Vision Quest screeners, he won't be in the first couple episodes.
Maybe you should just do solo reactions for the first couple when you're back here.
Could?
Yeah.
Right when you land.
Yep, the day I get back.
Actually, I should come back from the airport.
Come back.
Sit my ass in a shit.
Oh, I was so relaxed and just beautiful nature.
Can you just film it while you're in Ireland?
Oh, yeah.
So that way it's relevant when it comes out?
I'll find some Wi-Fi.
I'll leave the castles and the wonder and the whimsy, and I'll watch some vision quest.
I want to be reminded of AI in the entertainment industry while I'm on vacation.
So I'd like to have that inserted as much as I can.
I'm just saying, man, you've got to get your priorities.
I mean, yeah, I've worked straight through to get to this point.
And that work is what pays for that honeymoon.
So you should work some more.
While there, she might have to zoom from there for an interview, which is so exhausting.
We're content creators.
We don't get a day off.
No.
Our job is as important as doctors and anyone else that works 24-7.
We got to be on call.
We got to make sure we're ready because the entertainment doesn't wait.
They're bleeding out people metaphorically, waiting for our takes.
Don't be ridiculous.
We are so much more important than those fucking losers.
Yeah.
Doctors saving lives.
Hacks.
They want to keep you sick.
Yeah.
We're here to heal.
That's right.
With our hot takes, that's how I like to heal.
With my opinions,
I took the HIPAA Oath to give a fuck.
Where our audience is consistently disagreeing with us.
Yeah, just like what I go to the doctor and I say, not it.
Same to you, audience.
One day we'll just conform.
Yeah.
I just fucking say what they want us to say.
I'm so excited for whatever Ironman thing they do to doom,
and it won't bother me at all,
because it's worth it for the shininess.
What I will actually say to that effect, though,
is for everyone,
there's a lot of people who don't agree with us,
who show up a lot.
Yeah.
And are here like everywhere.
I'm saying they show up a lot and are supportive.
I'm not talking about haters or people who want to just be here.
There are those people for sure.
No, I think constructive criticism is.
There's a lot of people who are.
here like every week who do not agree with us yeah but they they still are so kind and they'll still
show up on our super chats no that's that's that's that's a conversation versus yelling yeah so i appreciate
that like we can still the more we can be more honest i'm so used to clapping before reading questions
because of the fucking uh patron yeah honesty let's give it up for honesty fucking doing it give it for
honesty argument yeah Eddie rios just dropping to say hi at the top of it will turn after i watch
encore love what you guys are doing daily
Thank you, buddy. Keep up the grind. Got to collab with the skate pod someday. Much love from Florida.
Yes, yes. I do want to collab with the skate pod. I just met Andrew officially last week at Resident Evil.
And we talked for quite a bit. I've been Alex too, right? Yeah, I've been Alex a few times.
And yeah, the first thing Alex said to me is like, what are we going to get you on the pod?
And I'm like, now, now, please. Would you like me to talk Resident Evil? You guys, you guys are the most popular podcast right now.
I would love to come out of five.
Please bring me on.
Am I relevant to the generation alpha?
Am I hip with you guys still?
I love the teens.
Actually, it was funny today.
I have a clip popped up from their pod where it was like a six second one.
I want to get a compilation together and present it to them when I see them again.
Hello, I've been studying your work.
I've been studying your work and here's what the internet has to say about you.
It's loud.
It was Alex being like, Toy Story 3 is the best Holocaust movie, right?
Schindler's list right before.
He said it's so sensitive.
seriously. I love those guys. Like I mean, you've asked me, you're like, you know, I don't
vouch for a lot of creators. I vouch for those guys. They're very honest kids though. Yeah. And they're
fucking, I love how dedicated they are. Like they're actually well researched. Like they do the
work when you do the show and they're so passionate. And they're passionate. Like,
their takes aren't just to piss you off. Like they believe them. And it's so rare. Yeah.
I love how I love how honest they are. So many people that have huge followings either don't
give a fuck or they're pretending to like have a take or worse yet, they're like,
like, I read this thing and this is what the consensus is.
So I'm going to say it and I have a platform.
These guys are like, I don't care what the consensus is.
I have a strong belief and I've built a platform out of it.
Like, I respect the fuck out of that.
Now can I come on?
Look, look how much I've said.
I'm almost the first, now can I come on?
I was the first fourth timer.
I want to be the first fifth timer and get a jacket like an S&L.
Fifth timers.
They can afford it.
Oh yeah.
They get, they got it.
Make me a jacket.
All right.
So what do we got here?
Spidey Sensee.
Yeah, 272.
Hey, now that the Realtz Reject Studio has a PS5 in the Wolverine game,
can Koi finally play this game and experience it?
Coy complains about having to watch movies here.
You think we got time to throw him another 50-hour video game?
My eyes broke.
I broke my eyeballs.
Guys, I don't know if I can.
Actually, I haven't been able to, I don't know if my hand-eye coordination will work with my new eyes.
People definitely missed you in the comments when they got Alex.
Aaron and Sean. Oh, that's very kind. Yeah, we, we were trying to make that work and then it kind
turned into Greg's leaving for a little bit. I'm leaving for a big chunk. And so we had to get about
a month ahead. So right when Wolverine came out, it would have been like, I think it would have been like 60
hour weeks. It would have been impossible. It actually wasn't possible. Yeah. And then we, I was already,
I found myself when we were doing like, I was getting sick and I was watching, when we were watching some of
these movies, I was like, oh man, I'm so brain dead. I feel like I have no energy. People probably
think I just don't want to be here.
So if we played a whole video game, it would be.
It would have been devastating.
I mean, as it is, I have to, like, get glasses and figure out, like, the new version of
being 40 soon.
But I do want to play it.
Yeah, I've heard it's from people not in the gaming, like, bra, like, I've heard from
casuals.
And that's who I am.
It's very user-friendly for someone like you.
Yeah.
It's got a trail you can follow.
Love that.
It's got a little, the thing that people hate.
I would need.
That they're like, they treat their audience like, idiots.
I'm an idiot.
They're like, this is weird.
I'm dumb.
Yes.
I can comment and also be dumb.
Fucking A-C.
Coy will complete this game.
I can win here.
You can ride a motorcycle
without having to touch the controller?
That's amazing.
Peanut butter and jelly?
That's the best.
Daniel Sessions.
Hey, been loving the road to Doomsday.
Chance were able to sway y'all,
the Agents of Shield 2007 reactions.
Are we doing that with the Road to Secret Wars?
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Guys, I have a genuine question.
Which version do we show Jackie and Paige?
of Avengers endgame.
Do you see the dilemma?
We could be the end game and they could be the encore.
That's an actual different reaction.
Like that's a legitimate different reaction.
They won't know what the fuck's going.
They'll get like a Bruce Banner scene
without having seen brand new day.
They don't need to do.
They don't know.
It'll be four scenes of them going,
what the fuck is going on?
They can watch.
They don't know what.
And then they can watch encore
after brand new day.
Because they'll have watched like 10 movies in between.
It would be funny to just show them Avengers
and Game on court
and then being like,
I have zero context for what's happening.
Oh, and Wilson here?
What is this time variance?
Why is Hansel talking about time?
What's going on?
Yeah, it wouldn't work to it.
It doesn't make sense.
It wouldn't work to watch the movie
before phase four.
It wouldn't.
No, it doesn't make any, like half the character.
The biggest, like, fucking misfits,
O.B., like none of those characters
exist to them yet.
Like the end.
ending can make sense as a tease for what's to come.
Like,
and honestly,
the thing that we don't like that,
they made it the ending.
Yeah.
Of,
of Loki showed up.
But that's the one that I think you can get away with.
The rest don't work.
The Doom one kind of like,
whoa,
what was that?
Is Iron Man still alive?
But like Hulk is Professor Hulk to them.
Yeah,
that's what I mean.
Like Hulk wouldn't be,
Hulk would confuse them at the TVA thing.
But anyway,
they don't even know what incursions are.
That's what I mean.
It doesn't make sense.
But I just hate change.
Ethan T.
Hey,
Hey, jens, hope you're well.
I missed a few road
to dooms day
and I'm gutted.
It was trying to
do everyone
with a Patreon question.
Don't worry, man.
We honored you so much.
I can't wait to watch Ben.
We talk about you all the time
and all these Spider-Man's.
We talk about you way too much.
Yeah, actually,
you're like an honorary off-screen reject,
like Alex, the only off-screen reject.
All right.
I know we got a lot more super chats to go through.
I know there's some even here,
but I want to get us to the Daredeville Born Again story.
Oh, and I haven't checked the stream.
That's not bad.
Where's Alex?
She's paying attention.
No, I just called her name to see if she was.
Oh, I hear giggles.
I hear her name.
I hear her talking.
Sometimes I hear her name.
Alex can suck a nut.
Oh, shit.
She's a pain in my asshole.
Oh, shit.
She's a fucking...
Those footsteps were John on her.
I thought she was just going to manifest.
She only hears her name whispered.
She's a goddamn leap.
She's watching the live stream in 40 seconds.
She'll hear out of the shit talking.
Where are you, Alex?
Where are you?
Man, I'm thinking so much about Shang-she.
It's so good, dude.
So good.
Like really good.
Anyway, let's talk about Daredevil Born Again Season 3.
Hey, can you get a photo up of Daredevil, please?
Oh, wait a minute.
That was a super chat from the 18th that we'd never actually acknowledge of a stream lab.
Okay, Daredevil Born Again season 3.
So it was announced that after season 3, Daredevil Born Again is actually officially canceled.
and the showrunner,
Darry, I forget his name,
Dario, Scarpini or something like that.
So Dario, he's,
he left in the middle of post-production actually,
which that was the big negative sign.
And here's the thing,
as people who were so excited
for Daredevil to come back,
I've read a lot of Daredevil.
I really love Daredevil.
And we even interviewed Vincent Dinoffrio.
And afterwards, he was like, guys,
and now that we're not recording, I can tell you,
that was the best interview I've ever done.
And I can't.
And I can't wait to do more for all the seasons we have coming up.
He was like,
you should do a set visit specifically for season four.
Yeah.
And he was like,
season four,
he was crazy.
I'm going to get you guys a drive on for season four.
It was so kind.
And now,
now we're not going to get that.
Now we're not going to get that.
Now we've got to drink wine with Vincent.
I feel sorry for Charlie Cox from the show adults.
It's really sad.
Adults is Charlie Cox.
Really.
You know,
I feel bad for Scooby-Doo's Matthew Lilly.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God, they really set that up.
I know.
Anyway, it was one of those weird things, though,
when Daredevil was canceled season three
to bring you guys back
for who maybe wasn't living that era of Netflix,
there were some cancellations already happening
or Daredevil season three was the first one to go.
But it just kind of came out of nowhere.
It was like, what the fuck?
I was doing well.
Yeah.
It was like, wait, why?
And then all the got canceled.
It's a great season.
And then weirdly Jessica Jones came out like way later.
Like the other ones, you're like, okay, I don't really likes our fist.
I'm sad, but you know, I get it.
I was a lot.
But Daredevil was like, whoa.
And Luke Cage was like, about to film a week later.
There was no save Jessica Jones campaign, which should have been.
There was no save Luke Cage, which should have been.
Like, there was none of that.
That show was about to shoot.
That show was already in like pre-production.
And it was a great ending.
And then Daredevil, they champion for years.
He shows up at No Way Home.
The reality is, is that season two, it is just so obvious that the viewership
drastically dipped.
You could see it reflected in all numbers all around.
You can look up the reports and then you can look up YouTube views of all the channels.
I thought it was also markedly better.
It was insanely better.
But I feel like the negative effect that season one left just left people listless.
They were disinterested now or not as they're just not as excited.
It wasn't even like lack of marketing for season two.
I remember like the season two marketing looked good, but it was like,
It's more of the same
It's fucking just fighting King Bin again
Yeah, so and like oh Jessica Jones is here cool
But the the marketing didn't really show that difference
But season one I feel like just left people
Imagine wanting Daredevil for so long
And then season one comes out
And while there's a lot of defenders of it
No pun intended
While there's a lot of people who really go to bat for that show
It's pretty apparent
It shows in season two return especially
that it negatively affected people's desire for Daredevil and Kingpin.
And on top of that, they were diluting Kingpin on the way to Daredevil Born Again with Echo, Hawkeye.
So they've had these things.
And while season two is the best Kingpin's been in so long.
And while season two was phenomenally better than season one, I still don't quite feel like it reached quite the heights of the Netflix show, despite being a great season of TV.
I'm just saying it's weirdly like I get it
it's not as much of a surprise to me
yeah this time around
and I wasn't and even
this wasn't something that happened and announced
and people were like up in arms
and it was taking off like wildfire
that was like for Wonder Man
yeah yeah there was
I mean they they told because that was a new
exciting thing and it was great and they just announced a season two
but it's crazy to think that like we got Daredebel back
and the the uproar
was stronger for a Wonder Man season two
because of how much Wonder,
Daredevil season two it did.
Yeah.
Like I'm just marking that the character
of Daredevil not going on
didn't really have an impact
as much as a character like Wonder Man
who like,
yeah,
I think that shows how good Wonder Man was as well.
Like I want to give that as flowers.
But I mean, I,
I love Justin and Aaron Man.
And I think they were really building
something special.
I think it was going to keep getting better and better.
I think they were like finding
a really cool unique take and rhythm.
I would have kept watching,
but I also know that, you know, we felt it when we were filming it, that, you know, you put out a video and it's not like a fucking one to one of, you know, if they're not watching ours, they're not watching the show.
But you can tell between seasons and you can tell in the conversation and the engagement a difference if it's that stark.
And I remember when we were putting stuff out just being like, oh, we love this, but I feel like it's not the same water cooler conversation.
It's not, you know, the same cultural impact that it had been.
No, yeah, it's not.
You also pay attention.
But nothing on Disney Plus has been since the first.
chunk. A big part of it is wanting to disassociate. Some people think it's just because of after
secret wars, there's going to be a reboot coming of sorts and we might get a new daredevil or
whatever. Maybe to me, this seems more like a financial decision more, more than it is anything else.
There's also that collidered thing. I think collater's the one that started it. They were like,
they're done with Disney Plus shows. And then they've been like, who said that? No, there's more.
Yeah. And they just announced a bunch. And it's like not what they are, but they announce that
they're doing more and they've got like code names. But it's so funny how like a story will take hold.
and it becomes fact without a source.
Like it, by the time,
I remember my Wolverine show pitch
that got,
that cycles back every few months
where people are like,
oh,
that wolverine idea you had.
Like,
that's now the thing
that people approach me on the street
about and like talk about
with me with me with.
But there was a window
where everybody was coming up.
They're like,
it's too bad.
They're not doing Disney Plus show Marvel ever again
because you're a little idea.
And I was like,
when was that announced?
Like,
that was never said.
So it was interesting when you hear this thing
and people make it fact
and it's like,
no.
And this dare to think
just is adding fuel to that.
where people are going to be like, see, no more shows,
but then in a few years when we have new shows,
it's a weird time for Marvel,
because I could see Secret Wars ending stuff by the momentum right now,
but there is no official indication that's going to be the case.
Well, something that just popped in my head while you were talking is that
this comes out a bit of an irony of Punisher.
It was such a TV established character, John Bernthals.
And then he's a brand new day.
And he gets special.
He got the special, but then brand new,
day. It's like that's the biggest movie of all
time. And he's one of the supporting
characters and he's one of the things they use for marketing
consistently. So he's got a lot of hype around him. I could
weirdly see them continuing the Punisher story in some
way. I don't continue Charlie Cox's story. And I
that's what I mean. I think you can, I feel, I'm hoping
that maybe there's some blessing in disguise here.
Apparently the cast found out after it was already reported.
But maybe so fucked up. But maybe
Daredevil can appear in a Spider-Man, like actual
Daredevil, not Charlie Cox.
as a lawyer, not Matt Murdoch,
the lawyer, but Daredevil.
Like, if we can get Daredevil and Kingpin in like a Spider-Man movie,
that was just something I wanted.
Kevin Feige said the legal's of that is manageable.
Like, it is possible, he said.
Yeah, so maybe there's a way they can carry on.
I'd love that.
I think, you know, it is sad.
I'm not going to lie. It's sad.
And I'm excited for season three and to see the defenders,
but now I'm worried that no one's going to watch season three
because that shit I was talking earlier.
You're like, well, it's over.
Doesn't matter anymore.
Like, why would you not want more?
Like, why would you not spend time?
Like, you don't watch us.
season of a show for its next season. You don't watch a movie for its next movie. You watch it for
the thing it is. That's what's like I'm really strong feeling with art right now because people are
watching movies and shows like their trailers. That's the fucking cake. Enjoy it. Like that's your meal.
Enjoy the meal. True. Good call. Anyway, that's that sad news. Yeah.
I'm here for Super Chats. Yeah. Let's talk to the people. What a weird vibe and energy.
what's that
you refresh that Ray
did you refresh it already
thanks Ray
you're doing great Ray
I don't think Alex is watching
no we called her a lot of insults and names
whispered it to the mic
she'd hear it she'd hear it yeah
she can go to hell
yeah I don't even remember what we needed her for
I don't either now
why do we why were we
I think we were saying she's the only off-screen reject
but then you had a need
and I was like I don't know what it is
do we need her
I have a lot of needs
yeah I'm a needy guy
that's fair
no you're way too far down
homie
I don't know what's happening
you're all the way
at Lant you're all the way
a while ago live stream
right there
yeah Hunter Zach
boo yeah good job
Hunter Zach
I know you guys
have discussed it elsewhere
but I loved Zach
Craigers
we're gonna talk about
Dynamic Duo after we do
after we do a few of these
but I love
Zach Craigers Resident Evil
after watching it
I'm really curious about
the henchman script
he wrote for DC
I hope it gets made eventually
now I loved Resident Evil
and this guy
did not love Resident Evil.
B minus.
But he loved Supergirl.
He raved about Supergirl and he
defends the shit out of Supergirl.
Every day. I actually call Greg up
sometimes at 2 a.m.
And I'm like, yo, I need to do my traditional goodnight.
And I have to serenade you in line by line
because I have memorized the film.
It's just crazy, man.
It's just like it, I think it might have dethrown fight club.
Yeah, maybe.
but henchman
do you remember this idea this concept
yeah uh i think it's a cool idea
i think it it's hard because of uh
the the vitriol of comic fans
like so many people will be like
why do we want that that's not what i asked for
and then like i wouldn't want to be
zach ragger jack cragher just went through all the video game
mousles i wouldn't want to get into a comic book space now
but he just won over a billion of them
yeah but it's not worth it man
i wouldn't make like a fandom thing after dealing with that shit
because like a henchman is it's going to be the people being like why don't we just get a bad man thing why would we want a henchman thing like it's going to be the exhausting audience that the people with the girl garage show the people with the fucking lantern show up until lanterns came out where he's like why is this show set in the desert and this serious drama when I don't think in space came came out and everybody's like this fucking awesome but like why dedicate your life to the end grateful fuck these people why doesn't you just get off the internet really exactly
Craigor's responsibility to take care of his own mental health is what I'm saying.
Or you can make your own eye.
I would say he should make his own IPs.
Nolan doesn't have a phone.
No one doesn't have an email.
So jealous every day.
No one doesn't have a house.
No one doesn't have a car.
Nolan doesn't have a suit.
No one has no clothes.
He doesn't have clothes or family.
They call him Nolan for a reason.
He's got no land.
All he does is direct naked.
He's a new director.
It's like Sam Ramey wore a suit to honor Hitchcock.
Nolan wears nothing to honor our ancestors before art.
He has no internet.
He's the original artist.
He has no computer.
Nothing.
No typewriter.
He draws his storyboards by hand.
That's why the dialogue's weak.
And then Wally Fister comes in or whoever's DP in that time, he's just like, I got to interpret this naked man's rantings.
No, Lynn.
I don't know how he does.
It's a miracle.
It's impressive.
But that's why he always looks happy.
Yeah.
Freedom.
Ethan T.
Sounds odd, but I genuinely love to meet you both someday.
That's fucking weird.
So odd.
I wouldn't want to meet me.
Just shake both your hands at the same time and give you both.
a cuddle to say thank you for being
our heroes? Oh, a cut.
Oh, it does say that. I thought you were being Sir Cat. I thought you went off book.
I literally was like,
this is Greg making shit up.
Nope. I would love to meet you
you on day. Ethan, I, you're British, I think.
Right? Yeah, there's GBA. I want to hear
his accent. Because he's always so like
kind and polite. I imagine like a little bridge
whimsy and that would be delightful. You can do a British accent.
I can't. Yeah, you can. I've heard you do it.
Sounds odd, gents.
But I genuinely love to meet you both.
Oh, you know, what you know.
I'm a chimney sweep.
Someday and shake your little hands.
Sweep your own chimney,
oh, right, all right.
Give you both a week.
Cuddled and say thank you for being our heroes.
Right, right, right.
We love that.
If you ever see Coy and I in the streets,
especially Coy,
you have to say hi to him.
I'll be in Ireland in like three weeks,
two weeks.
I'm in Ireland soon.
So I'll be a hop,
skipping a jump away.
I've seen Coy stand outside of the theater
without having a showtime.
He's just hoping.
somebody notices. I hold him a sign and it says, I'm coy John Dro. And then in small,
it says love me. And I mean, I mean it. Without attention,
I'm like the Babaduke. Trey Wharton, coy, those locks are getting glorious.
Don't cut them and grow down your shoulders. I need an Andrew Garfield meme, please. And thank you.
Would you ever grow your hair long? I think I am. I was going to go for it.
Yeah, I was going to do a Mohawk.
I'm not even kidding
this isn't me being sarcastic
when I got the hair transplant
the goal was I missed my mohawk
from 2019 I had a really like a wide
mohawk and it was my favorite hairstyle I ever had
so when I got the transplant
the whole time was like I have to get through the wedding
I'm not going to have a mohawk for my wedding
but right after that I'm going to start growing it back out
like that's my goal and then
right as it was about to be that haircut
like we'd been starting to taper it for that style
and not make it look ridiculous
the next haircut was going to be right before
Ireland and I was going to be the mohawk
and my eyesight went out and I was like
I cannot be a middle-aged man of the Mohawk
like it hit me that I was like of a certain age
like the existential crisis of 38
like guys I'm literally getting glasses
and I'm losing my sight and when
that happened I was like oh this would look
like a cry for help this would not look like I was
trying like this didn't look like premeditated
because I've been wanting it for six years
but as soon as the old man moment hit
I was like fuck I cannot be
gets a red corvette when he turns 40 guy
so now I'm like fuck it
I'll do the I'll do the long hair
and see how it looks, which is a different crisis.
Does your hair grow down?
No, it kind of goes out.
But I'm gonna, I used to a man butt.
I had a man bun for a while.
So I'm gonna try to get it back and then see if I can like shape it.
Because I got a really good barber.
Elite cuts Burbank.
Well, your wife like that?
She likes it longer.
She loves it like this.
Like she likes it chaotic, which I love.
Okay.
So luckily she prefers chaos.
As long as she likes it.
Because I like buzzing my head or having a Mohawk.
She does not like either.
So this is more her speed.
But Andrew Garfield, great pull.
His hair is fucking amazing.
You'll lose jobs if you grow your hair that way, though.
It's okay.
What jobs?
I always do creative jobs.
I feel like you'll get a lack of support.
From who?
From D.C.
They'll be like, hey, get a haircut, hippie.
DC's very controlling.
Yeah, that's definitely what I experience.
They're like, hey.
Well, they let me be.
Can I go back on your show?
If you don't have your hair long,
apparently that's their mandate.
But yeah, Andrew Garfield, have you seen his hair lately?
Like the last month?
It doesn't look real to me.
It's fucking amazing.
It doesn't look real.
I almost did an interview for the uprising, and I legitimately had two roll over questions.
One, Spider-Man, respectfully, because he gets asked every day, but I had to.
And then the second one was like, hair care advice.
Like, I actually was like, this man's herbal essence commercial is majestic.
All right, here we go.
Whoa, what?
Oh, my God.
There's just something crazy happening in my, I'm on Patreon right now.
Oh.
Get a lot of updates.
well we're screens
stimuli just like apps
I can't answer that right now sorry
I just posted and I forgot so I was getting a bunch of notifications
on YouTube and I was like I'm live elsewhere what's happening
dance
Trey warding Greg you grow and Andrew Garfield
Maine 2 please that ain't gonna happen man
I can barely manage this fucking nonsense I have right now
Dance for life cool like the Mike Shinotica was red
Like I almost wanted to buzz my head again
But then I was like I'll look like I'm gonna get
slimmer again that's true thanks wait are you bigger now than you're with the the buzz cut
absolutely yeah all right oh yeah i've had a wild fluctuation between what's i was joking because i
thought you were the same weight i've been in the same 20 pound like fluctuation boom like
you're not 20 pounds more than the buzz cut yeah no not not now no no okay but there was a time
was that I was like oh my god what happened you look you look like this mostly the same I wouldn't have
guessed like anyone I would have thought like four or five don't try to don't try to save yourself I'm back
peddle my ass off don't don't try to do this you gained 20 times at any point no you were like
you're like not fat ass you can't shave your head maybe no one likes a fat bald guy is what you said
I could see it in your face is anofrio I think that's different he's got like he's intimidated
he's intimidating he's he's a scary fat ball like actually yeah like like actually yeah like
I'm not intimidating fatballed.
I'm like, I look, I look weaker.
You look huggable.
My hair.
I feel like people only like me when I have hair.
I thought you had a different like nests about you're the buzzcat.
Like you carry yourself different.
I had really defined six pack then.
But that wasn't it.
You also like,
it was closer.
I know,
but for some reason,
the way you carry.
Oh,
it's so different.
No,
no,
that's true.
You don't have like a,
and the shape of your head is different.
I'd say that.
I would never guess you'd gain 20,
pounds at any point in the last year.
I definitely did.
Wow.
I got care.
I was actually like a few months after it's like, I would not stop binge eating.
Yeah.
It's hard when you lose that much weight.
Your body's like, uh, are we dying?
Let's eat.
Yeah.
And then it's really gross.
I was like 218 then I got down to 172 for the photos.
So like I lost a lot of weight.
So I have, I wiggle.
It's a fuck around.
You can do your head and shave now and not look like big because you're not anywhere
near 218.
Probably.
Gay guy still check me out.
That's what the bar is.
If I stop getting hit on for like a full month by gay dudes, I feel like I've done something wrong.
Like I know I've like slipped.
Like that's the barometer.
I understand.
How you doing?
No one understands better than me, Coy.
Yeah.
Dance for live.
Hi, guys.
How are you doing today?
Coy, you look tired.
But hope you rest, man.
I thought you were kidding again.
For the Fox universe, Earth, people are theorizing that the other Earth is Toby's.
Oh, that would make sense.
That would be cool.
of those that is one thing i like about that tv a scene because there's other earths and and i i don't know how
some people of course are are so those are those are nerds the ones who can remember the name of
every fucking earth number like whoa that's so hard yeah i don't even i barely remember like
yeah we're six one second that's easy because it's three numbers every other number is like a
random set that makes no sense like there's no rhyme or reason to them yeah because it needs to be
randomized in order to not feel like they're more important
ridiculous but i would like to when doomsday does come out and we see every earth and
movie being destroyed they should go to know they should do like the roger corman fantastic four
that's the only time they could dulf lundgren punisher tauton they should go way back in time
yeah howard the duck they'd yeah howard the duck kill that fucking defenders of howard the
the first marvel movie just don't get it do you just don't get it man he hates it so much
somewhat
I would reply to one comment
because it was the one that I saw on my dashboard
you have a YouTube dashboard
I knew before like to not dive in
because I'm like I know there's a bunch of defenders of this
but one column was like you know the problem is
you took this movie way too serious
like no I didn't
I said you know what it could be
is that a movie that people consider
generally terrible we just didn't like
perhaps a bad movie is
perhaps we were one of the people
who thought the movie that everyone
think that most people think is terrible is actually bad to us.
It is a no-win scenario doing.
Like, for example, we're doing all the Marvel movies, but like, we have to watch them all
because we're doing all of them.
But, like, I never liked Captain Marvel.
And, like, the people in, like, the Captain Marvel comments are watching a reaction because
they probably like it.
Like, you don't generally...
Sure.
You're either very extreme, like, 10% hate or, like, 90% of people are watching it because
they like it.
But you have to be, like, honest with your own opinion.
You can't just like everything.
Nope.
So, yeah, it's a...
Howard the Ducks one of those.
Also, I am tired.
Dance for Lod.
I've watched nine movies in the last two and a half days.
Corey's got shit on his face.
Do I?
I appreciate.
Yeah, I'm barely fucking functioning and I still got a day and a half more work.
But then it a day off.
No one complains more about their work in the entertainment industry than Koi genre.
That might be true.
Bruce Willis before he had his brain thing.
He complained a lot.
Yeah.
I'm up there.
That's why people always love to Bruce Willis.
I know I did.
Who else?
Because he really seemed to not like doing his job.
You really did.
It's no, that's real.
Like I really struggled on surrogates, man.
That was hard.
Maui, yo.
Forgot to ask.
Damn, clever.
This for the amazing Spider-Man, too, the deleted scene where Peter meets his parents at the end.
You all think they should have kept that scene in the movie.
Okay.
So if you guys don't know, there's a scene that they did release on the internet where Peter is at the cemetery and then his dad's spy shows up.
And it's like, no, no.
It's like beautiful acting.
I did like about 90% of it for you.
And he's just crying.
It is heartbreaking.
And I don't really remember how it ends.
But then so his dad was still alive.
Now we watched the amazing Spider-Man too recently.
And we, we had fun.
But I don't think that scene would have worked in that movie.
I don't know where.
Yeah, the parent stuff was easily the worst part of the movie.
And that's just cut it.
Yeah.
I don't want any more parent stuff.
I always thought that was a really dumb retcon
to add the spy element to his parents,
much less in a movie.
It works even less in a movie.
One of the weirdest experiences
of doing the Spider-Man binges
was watching Amazing Spider-Man 2.
And being like,
because I didn't mind Electro in the first half.
Like when you get to the Times Square scene,
I was wild.
I feel so bad for that.
Like, I felt bad for him.
I'm like, you feel so bad for this character.
And then afterwards, he's just like,
I'm a blue mean guy.
Blue mean.
And then you watch No Way Home.
We went No Way Home the very next day.
And I couldn't.
I was so distracted by this is not the same guy.
Like at all.
And the crux of the film is that they are those characters moments later.
And it seems like they're trying.
Yeah, like he was pulled from the finale of the Amazing Soccer Man too.
It's him.
And they have that one line about like different energy.
That's why I look different.
But like you're acting different.
it seemed like so i didn't i didn't actually say it directly like this it seemed so try hard to like
we're really he's really trying to be like no people hated me in it i gotta be cool as shit in this
and jimmy fox is so cool that's what makes him trying hard hard because like jimmy fox is so
naturally cool yeah to see him being like gotta make up for max dillon so true if if they'd done like
a multiverse there i would have been okay with it like if they're like oh in a slightly
different universe of the water so it can be jami fox
I'd fuck with it.
But like, it really did work.
So when they send back the villains at the end of No Way Home,
the concept is they'd live because of a choice.
So that means the Spider-Man one movie with Toby McGuire doesn't end that way.
Right.
They change the ending of those movies.
Just like Endgame Encore.
Just like we all want.
I don't know how I feel about this now.
Nothing to ever be final.
Everything can be changed.
Now that I've just said it out loud in Miami.
I don't know how I feel about that.
ending. Don't worry, Spider-Man 4 will be all the new endings.
Christian Unpronounceable. Hey, you streaming, lovely. So either of you know if B-15 is in the new scene or maybe in Doomsday.
Uh, uh, uh, good use of lovely. I forget. No, that's Casey who I'm thinking of. Casey. I didn't see B-F,
I don't think I saw B-15 in that, in that encore scene. I mean, she's in Deadpool and Wolverine.
So she's got, I imagine she'll probably pop up. She was, she was like heading the TVA.
Yeah. She was leading everything. Yeah.
imagine like if there's TVA heavy stuff she'll be in it i hope she comes back yeah she's great um christian unproncible
did you all see the day drinking trailer depp is doing the weirdest accent dude the debt come back looks so
odd and i'm here for his weird ass acting again have you seen this day drinker trailer from mark web
Mark Webb
It's like a supernatural
It's like Jody Depp playing the drunk
I think he's not British
He's something he's one of those European voices
So he's not
Scottish I forget what he is
But it's Johnny Depp
You know being a drunker
You know a Johnny Depp as he does
Mark Webb's documentary
But it's like drunk
Supernatural John Wick or some shit
Like it's a fucking weird trailer
I was like this is a look good
This looks bizarre
Like it could be god awful
It definitely feels like
or it could be
no it's probably going to be bad
but in a way that I'm going to really like
you know I'm so excited
Johnny Depp looks so committed
to it and honestly like
even his Ebenezer trailer I liked him in the
Ebenezer trailer I was surprised by how fun I thought he wasn't that
you didn't like him at cinema con was odd
oh yeah of course because like those can bits never work
when someone just comes I think I think it's terrible
yeah I don't think they should ever do that so like that
work for me, but I don't
like the idea
of the Ebenezer trailer, but I hope I like the execution
more than the idea. What's wrong with the idea?
They're basically trying to, like, I like when
villain movies, they stay villains,
not when they do the thing where it's, I
understand getting in the villains headspace, right?
Like, no one thinks they're a villain. That's, that's
movie making, that's storytelling. Like, no one's
like, ha ha, I am bad.
They rationalize their decisions.
But like,
the villain movies at Disney always
kind of undermine the
integrity of the character and this one is doing something else where it's like we're gonna explain why being
a billionaire isn't bad and sometimes wage cuts are good and fuck the proletarian is that really what you got
from that trailer why did you get that from that trailer i don't know it's to be like a rationalize
evanese is a fucking christmas carol but it's like it's him being like i'm the lead of the story and
my choices make sense and like ebeneez are you talking i don't know maybe i saw a different trailer
maybe I was really
I really applied some thing
I mean the things you don't like I think you really
put that I I don't
people in the chat agree with this
I did not see this
it was from a bunch of quotes that I read
right before the trailer like the
the director said a bunch of stuff
about his perspective on Ebenezer
so I watched it fresh with the lens
of these quotes I'll see if I can find the quotes
because maybe maybe I'll sound less insane
I'm just saying Johnny Depp looked like he was
getting really bored for many years
And he looks like he's having a lot of fun with these roles.
I am a, you know, Hunter S. Thompson.
I like the most gonzo.
That's what I want out of it.
He was my favorite actor for many, many years.
Growing up, he was undoubtedly my favorite actor.
Yeah, like I want that version of him,
but I also don't know if there's a market for it.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know if the world, you know.
I think it's smart that he's playing in darker movies, though.
I agree.
Because, I mean, I don't think he should be appealing to like a Disney.
because he didn't like win back everybody, you know?
Yeah.
Don't try to appeal to four quadrum films.
I don't think you should be making like a fucking $200 million movie right now.
I feel like the pirates, the conversation had me back in pirates.
I'm like, I don't know if we're ready for that yet.
But whatever.
Thomas Underdown, do you actually think that they have the time for long time?
Got it.
In other adaptations, Scrooge is kind of an asshole.
And then the rest of the character is benevolent, perfect people.
It was really our goal to try to balance that out and say there's so much more great area in the story.
We want to make sure Scrooge has logic and a good argument.
So when he is making an argument about something, he's not wrong.
That's what you got from that?
100%.
And that's the director saying,
It's, it's, to me, that was the,
it's like when you do hear a villain make an argument where the logic,
you're not supposed to be like, you're wrong, that's stupid.
That is usually how you watch a Scrooge movie is you're like,
come on, man, what's wrong?
But the idea to have a main villain character where you do get the,
perspective i think that's a that's a great way to play yeah i just didn't connect with the i didn't
work for me with this character i don't think it was about making a billionaire defending the
we'll see i don't feel like that's what's happening mad could just be i don't think that's
what aggressive liberal bias is my left the director of like the pearl movies is what i don't know i was
surrounded by a bunch of leftists could have rubbed off on me we'll see next
down. Do you actually think they have the time for
long-term doom stuff, especially
if they're moving more
towards X-Men and so on? And that's why
one Doom movie?
There's time for long-term doom stuff,
especially if they're moving more towards X-Men
and so on, and that's why one-Dome movie.
This is the thing about the reboot
side that is like kind of muddling
to me, because you can do, I mean,
Doom doesn't die at the end of Secret Wars
in the comic. And like a lot
of the conversation is, you know,
after Secret Wars happens, we might
some new versions of some people or a lot of time for like resets and stuff for certain aspects right
not a full lot like we just got a fantastic four they're not going to just eliminate the fantastic
four right there's a black panther three coming out after uh secret wars right so uh but at same time
dr doom stuff i they they probably i imagine they'll probably okay let me stop here for a second
fantastic four did not do anywhere near as well as they hoped or needed it to do i'm hoping
hoping that somehow through Avengers Doomsday, the excitement for Fantastic Four gets elevated where they can make another Fantastic Four movie.
And then perhaps they can have a Doctor Doom, not in the very next one, because we just got Doomsday in Secret Wars, but maybe like the third Fantastic Four movie or something like that.
That way we can start getting more of the Dr. Doom presence.
I don't know if they would keep it Robert Downey Jr., though.
That sounds expensive.
That sounds expensive as shit to do.
unless of course this movie makes
$3 billion.
And they're like, he's literally
saving our asses right now.
Which it could.
And he could play Doom longer term.
Yeah.
Oh,
yeah,
the mask.
Because he has a mask.
So you don't have to worry much.
Like,
you don't have to worry about deaging or age or aging in general as much.
So there's a lot of ways you can keep them on.
However,
uh,
yeah,
I don't,
I don't really feel like we're going to get as much of doom focus stuff.
No,
I feel like these two are going to be the main doom focus.
Which kind of sucks.
But again,
that's something we've told ourselves on.
We don't know.
Yeah, we don't know.
And I hope we get a lot of doom because I think he's a great character,
depending on how they articulate him here.
Yeah, he's doing the hammer at the end of Encom.
Yeah, that's how I think of Doom, obviously.
As Iron Man.
Yeah.
Doom iconically makes his own mask, not has people make it for him and then puts it on his face.
He could have been someone else hammering it.
Now I'm doing what you do.
Yep.
Rationalizing sucks.
Shouldn't have to.
Isaac.
I love the way this is the thing that Doomsday is now doing because of Doomsday.
Now it's looking like Steve Rogers fucked up.
Steve was selfish.
Steve was selfish.
That is his ending.
That's why it fits.
He doesn't get to live happy ever after.
The consequences are the story.
Totally.
However, if Dooms, if Avengers, we've had a billion movies happen, right?
We've had so many movies happen after end game.
We've had so many TV shows after endgame.
If Avengers doomsday wasn't happening, this rhetoric would never.
Would not be going around so strongly right now.
Like people are like, yeah, Steve did fuck off.
And I don't think he was.
There are consequences to what he did.
Right, because I like the idea of him being selfish because I think sometimes you should be selfish.
Like he had finished his tour.
Like that use of the word selfish, like he is choosing himself is what I see as the ending.
But now it's going to be like, because of him, fucking universe could end.
Like Captain America, noted piece of shit.
And that would not be the conversation.
Same.
It really does undermine a lot of shit.
Is he the lead of this movie?
It seemed like in the beginning.
And then it seemed like everybody was like,
we got to make sure Doom and Reed have a relationship.
And that other trailer was so Reed and Doom Heavy.
I don't know.
And then the first trailer was Thor heavy.
Yeah.
It seems like the original trilogy.
the original trio, but now one of them is doom.
I really got the sense that Steve would be like a main supporting character
or like someone who would come like halfway.
One of the four trailer.
But he was the first trailer.
They make sure to give him this end scenes.
It sounds like he might be the lead.
I'm so curious that we're two months out.
Like it's coming.
It's not even like Captain America.
It's Steve Rogers.
Right.
Because Captain America is Sam Wilson.
Yeah.
And he's a guy in jeans.
Jeans in a black shirt.
Like it's so, dude.
Like I don't know.
what this movie's going to be.
And like that is fun in its own way.
Like it's exciting to be like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
Like that's kind of exciting.
But like we're two months out.
Part of me kind of likes it for that dilemma that was posed in, in, uh, when it came to
like, yeah, we're not going to get rid of you vision.
We're not, we don't sacrifice life in Infinity War.
And I, I wonder what it might be like to watch a movie with a lead where he's being
blamed for everything that's happening.
Mm-hmm.
But how we feel if that's like Captain American, you know, like,
I don't know.
I like a movie that challenges an audience.
That's why Toby McGuire and Spider-Man 3 was a great choice.
Oh, yeah.
No, his casting from 2000 on just inspired.
Yeah.
I am challenged.
See you, Chuck.
My reaction's going to be spicy.
I'm going to put some dirt in your eye.
It certainly did.
See, Black.
Steve decision was selfish.
I wait, another one?
Back to back.
Oh, my God.
The ancient one warned them.
Peggy did have a whole fan
I feel like the audience is be
I feel like it makes sense
but I feel like we're being gaslit into
now blaming Steve Rogers now
I loved his ending Peggy
now we're being gaslit into feeling
when we watch that ending in the endgame
that like I shouldn't feel good about this
this is not a good feeling for him to be with Peggy
nope
don't like it
I never did now that I think about it
I hated the ending
I actually hated end I actually remembered like not liking
that choice.
Yeah.
I've decided,
you know,
end games should be
rewritten.
That is nuts.
Don't you worry.
It's happening in real time.
Steve had to know staying in the past wasn't right.
It's,
it just sounds,
the way people talk about it now,
it sounds so declarative.
And like,
come on, guys.
You knew this was a bad thing that he did.
Yep.
And it's going to be the thing, dude.
Like,
this is where we are.
That is so insane.
That to me, that to me is like the bigger conversation.
They're retroactively ruining the moment of the ending by making you watch that and go,
no, don't feel happy for him.
This is not sweet.
This is a bad, he's selfish.
That is selfish what he's doing.
No one should ever be able to retire from service.
They should stay, the course, never have a happy thing.
You don't get to go back and see your person.
I don't get to go home to your wife.
So crazy.
Jacob.
I can't believe that.
Jacob Beach.
Honestly, I'm just so happy
they kind of recolored certain scenes.
Also, so good to see Chadwick
as the first one out of the portal
at the end of five.
Oh, that's really cool.
Yeah.
Oh, our endgame reaction
goes up on Sunday.
That's so perfect.
I know.
Who would have thunk it?
Yeah.
That was by chance.
Oh, that one was?
I always assumed you fucking...
I got super fucking lucky with that.
I really thought you planned that
when you did your fucking master calculation.
There's going to be a time where there's two movies a week.
Yeah, starting this week, isn't it?
Yeah, but then we're going to have to do like two like MCU movies.
Oh, yeah, because we got to make sure we're hitting like brand new day right before
Doom's like it comes out.
Yeah.
And then we got Loki to do.
So there's like, it's really mapped out.
But I don't worry.
We'll be back to pedal on the gas when I hit back.
Got super lucky that the weekend end game gets re-release.
Oh, sweet.
That's cool.
I'm going to get off the plane.
I'm going to be strapped to a chair to watch all the rest of Marvel.
Yeah, I'll watch Vision Quest right when you're off that plane.
Hope we get screeners.
I want to see it before I leave.
I've been the loudest vision quest person I know.
And now that I'm leaving, I'm like, fuck, I was counting on screeners.
But you know, you leaving is selfish.
It is.
I should never see my wife.
With your wife is selfish.
I am Captain Content.
And Captain Content doesn't get to dance in this, Peggy.
Captain Content stays in the chair.
There are consequences to your selfishness.
And this will be my doomsday.
That's going to be our new shirt.
Captain America is selfish.
It'll sell because people are going to think.
Because now people are anti-Captain America choice at the end of end game.
Carlos Freight.
Was anyone watching any of Phase 4 and 5 going?
A lot of this seems to be because of Steve Rogers.
You know what?
You know who fucked up?
Steve Rogers.
Encore isn't replacing the OG.
It's us going back to the past, Carlos Freitas says.
Like Hulk said, now that past is our new future.
What?
Oh.
What?
I don't understand this comment.
Carlos Freitas.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's from Infinity War.
Like Hulk said, now that passes are in a future.
So it's, you can technically have endgame be canon because when the events of the phase four and five thing bleed into Encore, that's a new timeline.
So that's the new.
separate one.
Okay.
So the girls can watch whichever one because both are tanon.
We'll have them watch both.
And I'm not just going to show them the scenes.
Back to back.
I'm going to have them watch both.
Yeah.
And it's entirety.
Yeah.
Sorry, girls.
We're a different outfit too, so it's clear you watch six hours.
Let's move on.
Desi, I feel like Loki should have come in when we see Steve holding his kid.
Having him show upright after Endgame feels awesome.
and undermine Steve's ending.
I agree.
Is that scene in a, is,
I don't think about the trailer, though,
that we got for Steve Rogers,
the first Doomsday one.
Mm-hmm.
That might be wherever,
because the main,
the main theory is that he,
they actually,
Loki moves him from that timeline.
Oh.
The main theory is that he moves him.
A lot of people are theorizing
that he's actually at the Fantastic Four universe,
something along those lines.
That way,
because like,
The way the theory has gone down at least, the rumor miller the fuck, I don't know, is that Steve, Dr. Doom would know about Steve because Steve is living at the Fantastic Four universe.
And that's how Dr. Doom's able to put it together.
And I think that's why they're putting so much emphasis on this being Steve's fault and knowing about Steve.
Got it.
Making Steve the first thing we're thinking about front and center for the trailer, the first scene that they change here at Encore, etc., which would line up.
that Loki's like you're fucking up here by being in this timeline you see Chris you see Steve
Rogers hiding like I'm not here I'm not here but then doesn't that affect the whole thing where he's
like an old man and he gives captain he gives Sam the shield yeah because my the implication is always
that he just lived until that moment yeah he went back in time and then he became really old and then
he gave would undermine that so does that ending not happen then for but no it's cabbo set
but Sam Wilson's in doomsday also I assume we're
going to see that scene when we watch encore well you're not watching it when i watch on
yeah that is confusing time tends to mess back yeah as long as i had that line and then nothing else
everything's canon robert pursuer have a great weekend guys thank you all right um we're gonna
disable the super chats in just a couple minutes you want to talk about dynamic duo oh yeah shit we
have nothing yet let's talk about dynamic duo yes so over the weekend um there's there's one
rumor report that came out that Chris Pine is being courted right now to voice Batman in the
DC universe. And we have Koi here from the DC Studios podcast to confirm everything for us because
he gets all the insights. Last time I talked to Chris Pine on the phone as an official representative
DC studios, he said, and I quote, who are you?
stop bothering me get off my line it was actually his doorbell he's a very sweet man uh i don't know
anything more than the rumors uh with chris pine like i can i'll pass the polygraph i have no further
data except for um this article came out from a source i had never heard of do you like the idea of him
okay so i can comment on my opinion yes so and then of course mason tames who coy
Can I say he knows?
I've been friends with Mason for a long time,
and he loves Nightwing a lot.
And Dick Grayson is a character he adores,
and I can say that were this to be completely true,
it would be a completely great thing.
I had a moment where I was bored,
and I looked up a timeline
because you had the question where you asked him
about what comic character to play,
and he talked about playing Robin.
Yeah, someone actually just liked that post.
He had this clip.
It was a really good interview clip that he had with him.
And then soups asked him that question too.
Of course not talking.
He wasn't in the fucking room with you.
And soups asking that question too.
Mason's like actually yeah,
someone just asked me that.
So you did actually,
you technically asked him first.
That's right.
Yeah.
I've known Mason Sue is 15 and I can absolutely vowed
for a 15 year old Mason Thames telling me Robin is his favorite character next to
Spider-Man.
Spider-Man's his all-time favorite.
But like we were talking about Robin from,
I've known Scott Derrickson and Maggie,
his wife, I've known Maggie for like 15 years, but I've known Scott for
seven or eight. And so I was involved with Blackphone
one and Mason was a literal child. And it was funny
talking to him about Robin. Then it was just like, I love this character
and I was thinking about like, ironically I was thinking about Tom Holland.
Like those clips of like a young kid being like, I'm going to be.
But like in my mind that Robin is a literal child because that's how I saw Mason
at 15. And so now that you know, Mason's grown.
it'd be such a different
like minds eye character
but he's still so that guy
like he's so altruistic
like I of any young actor
especially at the amount of success
Mason has had in the last five or six years
that I've known him
it's made him more
like humble and noble
like some people get successful
and they kind of get distant he like wants to help
other actors like he wants to like lift people up
he likes to talk to fans he's like very
engaged in community
and I don't see that a lot with young actors.
They usually get like, I'm on Nickelodeon.
Like this kid's so good as a human and he reads comics.
He loves comics.
He's like in the shit.
I did meet him one time and he was kind of an asshole, honestly.
Yeah, you guys talked about hair and he's like, fuck your hair.
He was really undermining.
Yeah.
It didn't help what I was saying.
I was really mean to him to.
Yeah.
It was weird.
I was just standing there like shit.
I thought we were adjusting.
Yeah, now then the throat punch.
And I got kicked out.
Yeah, awkward.
But I'm really happy for him.
He's going to reportedly be voicing Dick Grayson.
And then we got a guy named Logan Kim, who would be playing Ghostbusters kid?
Yes.
Ah, that's why I looked familiar.
And he's going to be Jason Todd.
Now, the big thing that's the question is that they've been saying that James Gunn said a long time ago is that with the voice actors, they'll also be live action.
So now people are wondering if they'll be live action.
I don't know what universe dynamic duo is going to be.
This has been my most anticipated, like, long-term projects since before I worked at DC.
They showed, I don't know, like a few seconds of this at CinemaCon years ago.
And it looks insane.
It literally is like, this could be DC Spiderverse because it's so inventive.
It's so different.
It's blending puppetry, CGI, animation, like all this stuff.
And from the beginning, I've been excited.
Now, were a friend of mine to also get cast as Dick Grayson, I would be even more excited.
Were I to have seen said friend two days ago and post a picture of him and I reading Nightwing Comics theoretically, would I be more excited?
Absolutely.
Could I possibly confirm any of that?
Certainly not.
But it'd be great if it were true.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah, Mason Tames.
You think you'd be, so you actually believe.
What qualities do you feel like Dick Rason would require that you feel like Mason Tames can actually bring?
So Dick Rason, to me, is all of the things that Batman isn't able to work through.
in his trauma and he gets to be like a less broken take right like night wing is his own hero and when he
goes to blood haven there's like an amount of emotional stability that batman's not able to do so he to me
he's the robin that graduates like a lot of robins are stuck as robin night wing is like his own man
but he's still a robin and to me mason is i've seen this kid grow up i've seen him go from robin to
night wing like i can see him being a leader i see him being like a really exceptional selfless dude
He's got incredible chops.
Like he,
the fact that he played hiccups so different from Jay Bargell and still felt like hiccup,
like he's able to see what his,
he's,
uh,
he's self assess as well.
Like he's able to know what levels of himself to play.
Like the black phone is what got me back into horror.
And, uh,
that was largely his performance.
Like he's so good at like tapping into emotion,
being an exposed nerve,
but also being like very good at connecting the characters.
Do you think he could pull off the physicality though?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's like fit.
And I,
I view Dick Gray.
I mean,
anyone could get like buff and shit,
but like Dick Grayson's a little bit more.
What's the word?
Not nimble.
What's the word's fucking word?
He's acrobatic.
Yeah,
he's acrobatic.
So he's like more flexible.
He does so much of his own stuff
and I train your dragon,
which is a very physical character.
Okay.
If,
if we were to hang out two days ago,
I would have told him
that he needed to start doing squats excessively.
Do you,
I don't associate him with longer hair though,
Dick Grayson most of the time.
Dick Grayson's usually got kind of swoopy hair.
Yeah, but you know, he's got kind of that like,
Mason usually has like that longer,
like a little more mess.
The way he looks in the fucking photo,
he's usually what it looks like.
You think he could pull off a Dick Grayson mortared it.
The photo,
the Rodman right below him right there.
But there's like a,
like Nightwing's modern look is pretty like,
longer hair, yeah.
Like he's got a thing.
I don't know if that's what they,
but it's also we're starting out in animation.
I don't know if his hair matters.
Well, I know,
but I feel like he would be the live action.
I'd hope he'd be the live action.
And I guess he's,
it's an interesting choice,
though if he is because Mason
normally has a bit
more of a
as I associate Dick Grayson is a little bit cooler
like the guy who's like the cool
swagger Mason is cool but he plays a lot more
of like the nerd he plays hiccup he plays the nerdy
guys like even in black phone he's the guy getting bullied
he's a vibe he is really cool
yeah this doesn't usually get cast at it I think the
roles that we've seen I haven't seen idiots yet but I think the roles that
we usually see him and don't usually
scream Dick Grayson
And that's kind of the point of acting, right?
So we can see it.
So my point with that is I feel like it would be cool for him to like show off a very different side.
Were he to be cast?
I'm sure that his audition that he would have perhaps done would have been.
He practically confirmed it.
I might have been next to the photo he took of the comic books.
I think you might be able to see a shoe of mine in that image.
I don't know what you're talking about theoretically.
I'm just saying.
He practically confirmed the damping.
Perhaps I would like that confirmed with him on this show one day.
So I don't want to confirm anything.
If Chris Pine is Batman.
though. Do you like that?
Yeah.
You do like that?
I didn't think I would have,
but then I remembered how fucking amazing
his Spider-Man was and into the Spider-Bers.
In like five lines,
I was like,
holy shit.
This is like...
Live action, though.
Yeah, he's fucking got the...
You feel like he'd be a good live-action...
If he bought that...
I don't know.
I feel about him being Batman.
He's got a really cool...
He's got a cool voice.
He's got the Bruce Wayne side down.
That motherfucker is effortlessly
billionaire energy bravado.
Like, that guy just...
Have you met Chris?
No.
He's the...
fucking coolest.
Like he literally during the pandemic was growing wine and like out of his backyard and just like became this crazy like kooky everyone's favorite aunt, but like was bottling wine.
And then as soon as he shaved, he was like, by the way, I'm still Bruce.
Like he's got that thing where he can be crazy, which you need.
But also like, Devonair, suave, cool as shit.
I don't know about his physicality.
I don't know if he'd want to do that shit.
But like, think about him in a fucking Wonder Woman.
He's the coolest guy ever.
And like effortlessly.
That's how Bruce Wayne needs to come across.
But he's also weird as shit.
And like, I can see a.
darkness in him like there's something underneath the surface look at um smoking aces like he's got a
fucking range to him i well i feel like just getting someone who is so his performance would have to be
especially i'm more i'm more wondering i like the bruce wayne is the easy sell i still want jane
that's the easy one to sell me on when it was christ pine like of course yeah yeah that's what
i was thinking it's more it's more the batman like what does it fucking batman be well you like
patinson's gonna play the detective that's dark brooding and grounded yeah you need someone that seems
like a golden age hero.
Look at that motherfucker.
Like, if you think about, like, the dichotomy,
if you're going to be having one play
in the Matt Reeves universe,
you need the other one to stand next to the Justice League
and be like the fucking,
probably a blue cape,
gray suit.
Like, it's gonna feel different.
That dude's golden age of shit.
Like, he's got more of the bravado.
He's got a little bit more of like,
he'd play it.
I'm not saying this all the way.
Don't misquote.
But like, it would be more in the direction
of the Adam West take, I imagine.
Not that fucking far.
If that's a 10, I want like a six.
But if Pattinson's playing like a one,
because he's playing it so serious and grounded.
You needed to be elevated enough
that crypto can exist in the universe.
You need someone that's got that like,
machismo, the chin, the fucking thing.
So I see it,
it wouldn't have been,
I wouldn't have thought of it.
This wouldn't have been in my like top five.
I wouldn't have,
but once the rumor came out,
my brain went,
okay,
what would that look like?
And it kind of puzzle piece together.
Like, I can see it.
I don't know,
you're selling me on it.
You're selling me on it.
Like,
I don't know,
like he's been very franchise avoidance in Star Trek.
Like,
he's clearly,
not doing five movies a year.
Like he's not been in the public eye to scale.
So I don't know if he'd want to commit to the lifestyle of being Batman.
But I've always seen Batman as like an A-lister.
Like you cast a name for Batman.
It's not like a lot of the other superheroes.
Like I see Batman as like identifiable.
So I would love that.
But I also, he, I still like Jake Gyllenaw.
I still like a lot of other choices.
I don't know if this is true.
When the name came up, I was like, I see it.
It's different.
Do you think they'll go back to a bit more.
of a Kevin Conroy approach or Michael Keaton in the sense that now it seems like when people play
Batman, everyone feels like they got to do a voice. It's like Christian Bail, Ben Affleck, and
even Robert Pattinson to an extent. Everyone's got to do some brooding voice when they're
Batman now. Yeah, I think Pattinson's the most normalized of the recent era. Yeah, you can see the
marriage of it. But do you feel like Chris Pine could? I don't think you would just be like,
Hey, I'm Batman.
I feel like he's he's like I love him as Kirk.
I like that's the thing.
I've loved Chris Pine in almost every role I've seen him.
He's I loved him as in everything.
Great Steve Trevor.
Horrible bosses too.
He's hilarious.
I like his vibe, man.
Again, wouldn't have been my first thought, but I'm not, I see it now that it's been brought up.
Interesting.
And this Logan Kim dude, I only know from Ghostbusters and I thought he was so I thought
he was a highlight.
Rumor is he was supposed to be Amadeus Cho.
in Marvel.
Yeah.
So I love the idea of him getting the chance be a hero.
And I, you know, he's got like a spunkiness to him that I think of.
Yeah.
I think I've really sold myself on the, okay, I see what I did.
I sold myself so early on, especially of all rumors of Alan Richardson or even you championing
Jake Gyllenhaal of having two very different physical builds of Batman.
Like Robert Pattinson is so obviously like he's fucking skinny, you know, he's not
buff.
He's, you know, he looks buffer in the suit.
but clearly he's not like a super buff guy.
So I consist.
I had so myself,
but it would be cool to get like a different bad man.
One that feels more comic as accurate,
where you got like a dude who's like super like Ben Affleck built or something like that.
And like I never see Chris Pine is that.
That's what I mean like physicality.
I don't know what they do.
Like I thought this guy,
I thought that you get like the Royded out fucking Batman.
I wouldn't want like Alan Richardson as much as I love an absolute badman.
Because it'd be like that's Bruce Wayne's Batman.
Yeah.
There is a too big where you're like.
Perhaps the billionaire that's seven foot five.
But like, you know, I picture a bigger dude than how I picture Chris Pine.
Sure. Yeah, exactly.
That's the one thing.
I think that was like, actually, the only thing interfering was the physical build of the guy.
Are him.
True.
So yeah, I'd love to see it if he booked up and if he wanted to.
That's my big thing.
It's like I want someone that wants to.
That's a big mantle.
That's true.
That's true.
All right, man.
Well, what do you guys think if Chris Pine is Batman?
Do you agree with this choice?
do you like Mason Tames as Dick Grayson?
I like it.
I want to talk to him.
I need to apologize for how I treated him last time I saw.
The violence between these two, it was frankly frightening.
He's actually really sweet.
He's the best.
There is, there is, in this, in this, in this life of L.A., I'm guilty of it.
I have so, I have, I have, I have, like, 200 unread text messages right now.
I suck at getting back.
And a lot of them I open.
I haven't replied to.
Yeah.
Then I forget.
And yeah,
I have a hard time tracking all the messages.
And then you got the social media messages as well and stuff.
And I can only imagine someone like Mason Tames,
who's actually like pretty famous,
like what that must be like.
But when we met him,
he talked about wanting to come on for the How to Treat Your Dragon.
Yeah.
Trailer reaction because he knew real rejects.
Like we got it on camera where he just saw it.
He saw us and passed.
He's like, hey, I love you guys.
And I was like, oh shit, we got that on camera.
He's just like happened to see us.
And when we talked to me, he talked about wanting to come on.
And he's like really serious about it.
But then he couldn't because he wasn't in the fucking country.
And then he messaged me.
And he's like, sorry.
And he actually said something to me.
And I was like, oh, damn, fucking like, I thought this guy would even care to follow up.
Yeah, it was really sweet.
That's what I'm saying.
Like he's as altruistic as I want Dick Grayson to be.
I didn't ever really believe he would even consider like, I really sold myself in that moment.
He's being nice.
because that's what fucking people do out here.
They say nice things.
It's an LA problem.
People say like they're going to do something and did it.
I understand.
Like people be nice.
It's a very opposite of like East Coast behavior.
And so I just assumed him is that.
He's being cool.
But then the fact that he followed up like,
oh, he fucking handed him in his mind.
That's what I think about Dick Grayson's altruism.
Like that's the difference with him in Batman is he's like as bit as capable,
but he's such a kind, thoughtful person.
And like that Mason reads that and everything he does.
Yeah.
Like he's just such a good dude.
So that's what I see as Dick Grayson, and that's what I see as if he has cast his take.
And that's why I'm so excited because it's like, I want that kind of earnestness to radiate.
And that's Mason.
And I know that usually translates to nerdy.
I think that's why he gets cast.
I think a lot of people perceive earnestness as nerdiness.
But I would love if we kind of gave a jock take on that.
Like let him be altruistically kind and a badass.
I don't mean the nerdy thing as a as a thing to disregard his capability because Dick Grayson kind of has the
Dick Grayson has like a front facing coolness
But then you realize
He's actually pretty nerdy
Yeah you know
Whereas Mason I feel like has the different cell
With audiences on this
Yeah if he is him to like he's usually kind of like nerdy
But now he has to sell people he can be the really cool guy
He um I thought he did a good job
Playing a very different character in that uh that monster summer movie
Or he was like the baseball jock yeah
And I was like oh this is like another you know version of mason
Yeah
Um, so I don't know. I, I love that we're talking about this is 2028.
Like I love that we're looking deep into the DC and having these conversations until things are like fully confirmed and stuff.
We're just going to just watch him get awkwardly super buff over the next year and a half.
You're like, wait a second.
And like he's got to be doing this for a reason.
Yeah.
But yeah.
And his girlfriend's the coolest shit too.
Like McKenna's the best.
If theoretically I saw him two days ago and the four of us hung out, it was like a very cool, uh, read on like where the town is.
I always get a little worried about the next generation of actors.
And like, if that's the next wave, like, we're in a better spot than maybe our wave was.
Because they're, like, still grounded and good people.
You heard you hear from Koi first.
If you're a grown-ass adult, become friends with 15-year-olds.
Prime time's great.
I enjoyed that movie.
You see how this looks, right?
All right, we're going to close up the super chats and then wrap them up.
Thank you guys to everyone who has contributed.
That's how we got a stream lab too.
So thank you guys so much for everyone who has been.
here. I hope the chat's been kind. Kind of nervous to look at it. Whenever we're this vehemently
opinionated sometimes. Yeah, dude. A little worry that's going to trigger me. People watch our
opinion-based show and get mad at our opinions. See, just saw one right here. I love you guys,
but not going to lie, too much cynicism and sarcasm and the analysis of the scenes, even nitpicky.
That's the only one I saw. Yep. See it? It's like they pop out. Yeah. Yeah. And I wasn't
honest enough because clearly I only want Chris Pine and Batman. If we're so,
Just a gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble.
Whatever the people say, we just reiterated.
Gobble, gobble, gobble.
Just spewed.
You know what I had a great conversation with at a forgotten island?
John Campia.
Oh, really?
Me and him talk for like half an hour.
We had a really good talk about like content and YouTube and like tolerating the insanity
and stuff.
And it was the longest talk I think we've ever had.
Yeah.
It was a fascinating thing of like he survived so much more of this bullshit.
Yeah.
And like seeing all that.
But it was a fascinating moment of like, huh.
It felt like an elder statesman moment of like the beginning of the YouTube.
Yeah.
fascinating. I enjoyed that.
Nah, people want,
I think a lot of people on the internet want
echo chambers, you know? Well, I think people want to,
I think what it is. They want you to be authentic, but it has to be part of their echo chamber.
I think it's literally biochemical. I think that we are engineered to
seek acceptance. So if you hear something that isn't what you think,
then suddenly you feel othered and then you're mad at the person that made you feel othered,
or you're like, they are other than I am. So fuck them. I think it's literally,
we're not meant to know this many people's opinions. We're not meant to be
exposed to this many people.
So it's this biochemical reaction to like, I am not of this tribe.
Fuck that tribe.
Fuck you for saying the thing I don't agree with.
But we're putting ourselves in this position because theoretically people want our opinions,
which is why there are our viewers right now.
But the outliers are what you notice because likewise, we are going like, oh, am I saying
a thing that would oust me from the tribe and my safety and my comfort?
So I think it's just we're exposed to too much.
It's not natural.
But it's what your comfort zone of that anxiety is.
is it worth the little push of being your own person?
Or do you just fucking suck the emotional cock of society?
I like criticism.
I don't.
Actually,
I do when it's constructive.
I like when it helps.
No,
no,
you misunderstand me.
I like hearing criticism,
not about me or something like that.
Oh.
I'm talking like,
I like a super opinion.
There are people extremely more nitvicky than like us,
you know,
on the internet.
Like,
I love like,
I just clicked on a red letter media video
and they didn't want to review Resident Evil
they didn't really care for it.
I was like, oh well, that's a bummer.
I wish they would at least talk about it.
But then like there's Cosmonaut Variety Hour
and High Top Film.
Like I love a fucking Griffin from film speak.
I really like to me.
I love criticism.
I love hearing it.
I'm a big fan of it.
And I don't ever disregard
like you're being a nitpicky asshole.
You know, I've always been really impressed with that
with you and your YouTube acumen.
Like I find that you,
I think,
I think you started YouTube well before a lot of people and you also like carved out a thing so early.
I think you became open minded in that journey in a way that's rare in the current internet.
Like you actually value other people's opinions in a way that is open minded to a level that isn't common, but also specifically in the space you're in.
And usually when it's the space you're in, I find that's when people get the most closed off.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like I'm open minded about like restaurants, but like I'm not fucking opening ones.
But you're in a media space and you still want to consume other media.
Whereas like I legitimately have no fucking interest in anyone else's opinion.
Like when someone tells me what they think of a movie, I tend to tune out really quickly in person, much less seeking it out online.
And it's really interesting because like you and I are super similar.
But that's one of those things that's so far out.
Like I don't understand the idea of typing in review.
Like it doesn't even make sense to me.
Like it'd be like, why would I learn Latin?
It's a dead language.
But like the fact that you're able to receive other people.
people's thoughts and it doesn't affect your own and you want that data is so fascinating.
Like it's a really cool thing that you've been able to maintain.
Well, I'm also open mind and too if it does affect my own opinion.
Like I'm okay with that too if like it happens to where I'm like, oh, actually I didn't
think I've listened to so many different opinions that sometimes it will be like,
you know what?
Now I do see it.
I do actually see it that way now.
But most of the time, yeah, I have my own fucking opinion.
I like a hard line.
Like I really don't like to have anyone.
And I like knowing what I think
And I know that's closed-minded at times
But I really like being like this is what I thought
Especially if it's of art
Like I hate music commentary and movie commentary
Because then I feel like it's
Maybe it's that survival thing
Where I'm like I don't want fucking
Am I other ring?
Maybe that's why you do get bothered
Bohemianly when people do criticize you
Yeah yeah because I don't want it
Yeah
You stay over there
Yeah
I welcome difference of it
I like when we have it
I like when we're watching Spider-Bat 3
I'm like, this guy's having a totally different vibe.
There's going to be like screenshots from that reaction that are two different movies that are fascinating.
I love it.
I think it's, I think it makes life more.
If we want betterment of humanity out there, we have to be willing to listen to.
Like, there's an extreme, there's an extremity to what I'm saying right now, obviously.
I'm not saying like, I should engage with terrorists that or something like that.
You know, there's, I'm saying that having a, having conversations with people who have different points of
abuse is the only way we can really learn and accept people.
See, I like that would not art.
And I think that's what I mean by like, it's rare when it's in your space.
When it's not about art, I'm so interested in people's life experience and like sometimes
politics, but like mainly about like what their philosophy or their belief system is and
like those elements, I'm fascinated.
But when it's about art, I feel like it, since I'm giving my take, it sullies that.
It clouds it.
So it's interesting that you're able to keep all that.
It's not easy.
I mean, forming my own identity has always been a bit of a challenge.
But like there's a time where if I read that, like my, I get, I don't like the feeling.
It makes me feel when someone says that about us or me.
I don't like that feeling.
It feels awful.
Fucking feels sucks.
I don't, I'm not like impervious to feeling stuff, you know, obviously.
It does.
It can, it can't bother me.
But there was a time where I'm like, oh, I do need to change me and who I am now.
I need to not be this person now.
Now I'm like, that's the way I fucking.
I enjoy that conversation. I enjoy, I enjoy fucking picking it apart. I enjoy talking about it that way.
Like I have the bottom line is I'm having fun talking about it. I'm not like here being negative
because I think being negative is me like I'm actually upset and I'm going to be in a bad mood now.
Yeah. And my my my day is kind of like ruined. This moment's ruined. I think us getting like
criticism or
nitpicky about shit with like
a post credit scene change.
Yeah.
That's a fun.
I think it's fun for us to talk about.
We're having fun.
We're not,
we're not being fucking like
fucking assholes in our day.
It's also so interesting as everyone's like,
you know,
I like everything.
Koi loves everything.
But like as soon as there's any sort of like,
I don't love this doom thing.
So like it's so weird that there's no acceptance of I can't possibly like everything
and also be too critical.
Like it's such an interesting thing.
But you don't.
only see the people that are like yeah the same person that's saying i like everything and i'm too
critical yeah but each person probably authentically perceives me that way like i'm too like we're too
critical isn't the same person typing they love everything but both people would probably pass a
polygraph that they thought that of us well dude like all the reactions that we've been doing over
the years it's it's so silly like whenever i feel like i'm having the the best time with a movie yeah
like when we're bringing about spider man too in a couple weeks like we talk so much and we crack a lot of
jokes. And I'm like, I had the best time watching this. I had the best time. I know there's going
to be a good amount of people. Like we did Taken. We did the Transformers movie. We talked a lot and made
a lot of jokes. I had the best time. And I know there's people in there who are like, you guys
need to shut up. You don't talk. You're taking this seriously enough. You don't talk. And I'm
like, if you don't like the way, like this is the way I feel best when I'm doing this. I feel best right now.
And if you don't like me when I'm feeling at my best, then you can fuck off.
Like I'm feeling at my best right now.
Go away.
Like,
don't ruin.
You're the one ruining my,
my feeling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's why the commentary is I think are so much stronger than even like first time reactions for me is like I, I'm so like, did I talk over a line?
Am I missing?
Commentaries we can actually like have an engaged conversation together.
And I think that's so much more interesting.
Absolutely.
So to that point, like yeah, I, um, at the same time, though, I have been in many, many times.
Like it happened with Agatha, like where I was.
We watched Agatha and I did have a feeling like,
we're kind of taking the piss out of this too much.
We should dial this back.
So sometimes I do.
That doesn't mean, though, I'm not,
it's not black and white thinking.
Sometimes you do have to listen to your,
if enough people in droves are saying something,
you're like,
maybe they do have a point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you have to be willing to otherwise,
you're just going to completely a,
and out of ego, you know,
is you got to be mindful of like,
is this my ego who doesn't want to take this in?
Or is it like, no,
I'm holding my integrity, right?
now. Like, they're very different. And it takes emotional intelligence to, to know the best of both.
Anywho, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Let's see who yelled at us next.
Jerry Lee, can we read this streamline? Can you pull that up to? Do you know what that is?
I wonder how Spider-Man would react to seeing Iron Man is Dr. Doom.
Even though everyone doesn't remember Spider-Man except for Banner, happy late birthday for both of you.
Much love from the family. Thanks, brother.
I wonder a Spider-Man
to see an Iron Man as Dr. Doom.
Which one?
Oh, oh, Tom.
I was sorry.
I thought of Toby for some reason.
No, Tom Hollins,
seeing him as Dr. Doom.
That's why I think they did it, man.
They got to have that devastation.
I wonder,
one of you just got to be a part
of the back of your head
that's like they're going to,
they're going to show his face.
They're going to do it.
There's got to be a part of you.
I think they're going to.
I just think it's going to be.
Don't.
Yeah.
Like, I think I'm gonna...
See, this is what I mean?
It's such a difference of opinion.
I'm like, I want that.
I'm gonna be in the theater,
and I'll probably have a similar experience I had with Beast in the Marbles,
where I'm like, I waited a long time,
and now I'm pretty crushed.
And I get the people like this.
People are going to talk about it,
and I will stand on my fucking not great.
Yeah.
I think it's going to undermine a lot of shit.
I think it's going to,
I am very prepared for Doomsday to either get me back into like,
fuck yeah,
I love event movies.
This is exciting.
I'm also ready for it to undermine my love of phase one through three.
Like I'm mentally preparing for December to either get me full bore excited for Secret Wars
and like fucking consuming every bit of Marvel content.
Like I read every Marvel thing already.
Like I'll be like looking at every trailer like we used to like feeling that big Marvel phase one like that.
The way it used to feel,
I think Doomsday could put me there.
but it also could put me in a place where it's like
okay they did a really beautiful swing with Eternals
and everyone shit on it and I was just like I'm clearly not part of this fandom anymore
or like Agatha that I did not connect with
and people like turned on me personally
and I was like right fuck you guys like I'm ready for Doomsday
to either completely alienate me
or to completely invest me
and I think it's all gonna depend on how they handle something like that
like I'm I'm okay being the odd man out
but I also will not suddenly be like
that was a great choice
so like I'm fucking
I'm ready for the simple jacks
and the intellectuals
hell yeah brother
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thank you
tris
what's up coy
I commented on your post
about Dave Franco
as the beyonder
can you talk a little more
on your opinion
of my fancast
oh I love that
um
oh I like that a lot
Dave Franco is
so charismatic
he's so funny
he's got like a really good
voice for it. He's got a presentationalness
that I think would really work. I did
not see this. I apologize, Tris. I love
that immediately. I can see him in a fun
white track suit situation.
Yeah, fucking in. I think that's
pretty perfect. I always saw
him a little older, but I also
Dave Franco
just looks young. He is like 42.
So I think that actually works.
I co-signed.
And it would be kind of meta because
he like, you know, his brother is
so associated with apparently someone that's going to be dying
in this movie is the rumor. So it'd be kind of fun
if there was a little like, that's what I heard.
Fun. Yeah.
All right. I'm into that. I love day Frankos of Beyonder.
Right. Like, that's the thing. Toby, Toby's supposed to be in
Dunezazen. Yeah. I believe so.
Yeah, that's a thing. We've been talking about it for like a year and a half.
Yeah. Like, I feel like that. Once a rumor is loud enough.
I'm like, well, I guess someone knew something and they said it was a rumor.
Yeah.
Jedi Josh.
First time leaving a super chat.
Coy. Have you read DC Dark Nights
Metal and its sequel?
have you? Yes.
If so, your favorite issue?
Also, do you think we get a Storm or Gene Gray in Doomsday?
I think we'll get some X-Men.
I think Gene Gray, yeah.
Yeah, I think some X-Men, though, because they cast them publicly before.
I feel like that was so they could build up hype for the, obviously, the 2028, but also for these.
I think we'll get some X-Men.
I also think that'll be like, hopefully, they got to give the X-Men we've had forever their time, but they also need to introduce.
It's going to be a very big.
I don't know how.
I forgot who they were interviewed.
Someone was being interviewed.
and they did say Famkee Jansen is in it.
Like,
oh really?
It's Heather Rob Lefeld or one of those big comic book writers.
Oh,
I remember this.
Claremont.
Claremont.
Claremont.
I was like,
everyone's in it.
And I was like,
I think he specifically cited Fapke.
That's interesting.
I mean,
he might know.
He might know.
He might know.
Like if there's anyone who gets like random
inside information inside baseball information.
It's the guy that really remade the X-Men.
The guy.
Yeah.
I would say,
uh,
dark nights metal.
Um,
I liked it.
But it's not like I like Tom Taylor's other work more than Dark Nights, the medieval stuff.
And I like Scott Snyder's board.
You know, Ed Harris, a delight.
I fucking, what did we, we watch something he was in recently.
And I like lost my mind.
No, we didn't.
Ed Harris?
Ed Harris is nothing we've seen recently.
We've seen nothing but Marvel movies.
Yeah, we've watched Marvel movies for like six months.
What the fuck am I thinking of?
That and love hypothesis is what I've seen.
I haven't seen anything else.
I must have just seen something.
I guess.
I watch movies so much here.
I assume any time I'm watching a movie, it's here.
So maybe I just watched it Ed Harris movie.
I fucking love Ed Harris.
PLD, I love your love of Ed Harris.
Have you seen a history of violence?
Love that movie.
It is.
I read that graphic, though.
Yeah.
It was the first,
that's always the first movie I think over that Harris or something.
He's so good in that.
That's great.
That's such a deep cut for Ed Harris.
Why is he so good at killing people?
I think of Apollo 13, I think.
That is great.
Oh, oh, the rock.
Oh, he's so good in the rock.
Yeah.
I mean, I watched the abyss on this channel
And I was like fucking Ed Harris
Still have never seen it
So good I think it's my favorite James Cameron
Yeah, you've said that every time it's brought up
It's crazy because I love to do
Every time it's brought up, it's always
I think it's my favorite
I think it feels so crazy to commit to
After a couple years I think it is your favorite
But it's so hard to commit because it's James Cameron
It's like
I don't know
Like it's so crazy to think of something above T water T2
But I think it is
Nothing will ever top T2
It's so good
It's always the abyss
Yeah
I don't know if you could love something for as long as you've loved T2
and then like anything as much from the same director.
Like that's like if Fincher put out a movie that I thought was better than Fight Club,
I think I would for the rest of my life be like, I don't know though.
Do you know what I mean?
Like it's so associated with years of memory and attachment.
I'll say Martin Scorset.
I mean, uh, good fellows.
God, I was as a, as a, as a, not even a teenager yet.
I was obsessed with good fellas.
I was fucking obsessed.
Departed.
Definitely dethrowed it.
my favorite comfy and i everybody's like oh not a popular video no i'm on the same page but departed like
every time that movie's on i'm just like no matter what scene i'm just fucking in it yeah
grit it top to bottom i like i that's one of the movies i can't turn off like if it's on and it's an
hour till it's over i watch it if it just started i have to cancel not even from boston i fucking
love that shit but when you went to boston you understood yeah more so fucking great malick
if andrew was the one that transitioned into the mc u they could have done a reveal using
Nicholas Fury of his parents being shield agents,
taking inspo from Peter and Fury's relationship in the OG Ultimate Universe.
Oh, I get what you're saying.
Yeah, that might have been cool, I suppose.
I like that fan idea.
I mean, Corey and I have been talking.
You know what idea excited?
Roy and I was we got really into,
we were talking about what directors could bring a new element to Spider-Man
where you can really capture the stress and anxiety of trying to balance both.
Because that was the thing with an amazing Spider-Man too that dawned on me at a certain point,
that if the movie was about the struggle to balance how chaotic everything is,
if that was like a thing that was wearing on him throughout as a movie just going, going, going,
then I'm like, this whole fucking jumbled mess up a movie would have just made a lot more sense then
because the whole idea is that it's supposed to be messy and he can't keep up with everything.
And then we were talking about who would be it.
and coi's like the safti brothers i was like oh my god saffeyers would make like a fucking awesome spider-man
movie we pitched a whole andrew garfield saffty brothers journey craving the last hunt like i
like i fucking love that idea dude i think it'd be amazing it's just an anxiety and do like that would
really capture the stress of trying to balance both and trying to be peter parker while
fucking happy like craving the hundred and contend we ever read back in black let me see the cover
it's uh kingpin um black suit it's got some really iconic moments
Unless you should cover.
God, I think I have.
It's one of the big ones
in the last 20 years.
I feel like I have.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
I was a different.
I didn't recognize that.
That from the saftees be insane.
Back in black,
Safty brothers,
Andrew Garfield.
Fuck yes.
If I had a billion dollars,
this is what I would do with it.
Wait a minute.
I just read this last year.
I probably recommended it to you.
This might have been one where I told you.
I was like, I know, I definitely wrote this.
Imagine that in the Safeties.
That'd be insane.
That's what I want.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That'd be cool.
I sometimes just, I reached out that a while ago.
I sometimes just think about that.
I'd that.
Like the good times and uncut gems version
of fucking like Peter Parker
trying to like to handle this shit.
Frazzled with powers running around New York,
all these villains and shit.
And you know they were, and I'm like,
who would create also a new level of action?
I'm like,
would do something so wild
and invented. And their spider sense would be fucking
Oh my God. They would do the best man spider movie
too. Oh, it would be insane. If Sony would ever Greenland a hundred billion
dollar manned. Raven and Man Spider, they would do the best
version. I want this so bad. We just need to become billionaires with enough money to
throw fuck you money at the Safi Bros. Yeah. Or some director
who's like, I want to make a Safi Brothers movie. And then they produce it like you said.
Yeah. Yeah. That's all you need. We got goals.
Amy Pascal. We've got your spider problem.
Yisukee. I believe
Doomsday is recontextualizing Steve ending to ask the question.
You know what?
We're not nitpicking.
Everyone's fucking blaming Steve Rogers now.
Yeah.
Heroes are unilateral, radical means to actualize their desires, irrespective of potential harm if they deserve it.
Whoa.
You talk in a fascinating manner, my friend.
I'm going to read that one more time.
I believe Doomsday is recontextualizing Steve ending to ask the question.
Are heroes use unilateral, radical means to actualize their desires, irrespective of potential harm if they deserve it.
I feel like I'm talking to the fucking architect from The Matrix.
Do you want to translate?
Yes, English, please.
So he's saying he is positing that all heroes that we've met so far are so radically in their own ways that if it causes more harm than the good they did temporarily, are they even heroes?
So the way you feel about Scrooge, you don't feel that about a Doomsday movie?
Because it seems like they're going to be pointing out a lot of reasons to side with Dr. Dooms.
I mean, if they execute it well, it's the execution I didn't connect with that.
I like the reason.
Seems like he's going to be billionaire runner of Latvier.
I mean, I do love billionaires.
I do love billionaire Victor Bondo.
I love when people have money and others don't and there's no sort of sense of wrong.
There is a wealth inequality.
No, yeah, I think that is what they're doing is, you know, if the,
heroic deeds that these characters did cause more harm outside of their own little bubbles
is that really a hero is what he's positing and I think that will be a conversation with the stolen time element
and like what ripples it caused god if we're ever gonna get that cool origin story of victor von do are we
probably not he's hammering though it sounds like that's something meeting read gain the
fucked up face no bro hammers the love of his life that he rejected he built that cave with
scraps.
He built that in a cave with the way he took back Latvaria.
There's so many cool parts of the story.
No, he's not one of the most important characters in Marvel Comics.
He's a guy that you can make a new Iron Man.
God,
it's fucking mom.
Yep.
Growing up with,
oh,
so much.
Erroneous.
Doesn't matter.
Erroneous.
Erroneous at all counts.
Chris.
Guys, would you consider a reaction to Kevin Klein's Dave when you have
time too. It's a refreshingly optimistic political film where an ordinary man becomes president
and does a great job at it. Oh, I don't know. I fucks with Dave. Have you seen it? I fucking love Dave.
That is such a great like have-on just sit. It's such a Saturday movie. Just such a vibe. Kevin
Klein is so charming in it. It is very like not quite sork in optimism, but pretty optimism,
uh, in the in the political spectrum. I love that movie. It's great. I haven't seen it since I was
probably like 20, but it's a good time. Good time.
the movie, I think it's called In and Out.
Kevin Klein.
I think that was the first time I saw like a gay kiss in a movie theater.
That was a really,
really life-changing moment for me.
Oh.
I saw Birdcage in theaters and I think that was like,
so I remember thinking Robin Williams dressed like so well
and then realizing like it was a very flamboyant outfit
and being like, would that be misleading or do I need to look into myself?
Like I had that kind of like introspection of like,
Huh.
But I think that kiss was more like,
I don't know if,
I don't know if it took me back as much as I,
I realized that I hadn't seen another man, man kiss.
Like, I don't know if I was alarmed by the kiss
or the lack of finding it weird.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, when you realize you haven't seen something your whole life,
and you're like, wait a second, why haven't I?
And I remember,
I remember having that thought at some point in birdcage.
Like, why is this new?
Oh, there's a lot of gay guys don't kiss publicly
in a lot of places.
Yeah.
I think that I guess I was more excited.
Like theater kids in Boston be kissing.
I don't know.
In and out.
Isaac,
in my defense,
I've always felt,
Steve,
I think you were still being here.
I mean,
felt Steve was,
okay,
that is a great defense.
Steve did was selfish.
Tony told him meddling with time had consequences,
and he knew that taking the stones back.
Were you, like, upset with him?
The thing is,
you sounded upset.
And my sounded,
that means I read,
your message and I applied a volume and tone to something that I did not actually hear.
I just may be projected.
Tony told them meddling with time had constant.
That's true.
I feel like they didn't have like a debate about it.
Like Tony had one line, right?
The toni,
the meddling with time has consequences.
I'm like,
yeah,
of course.
Why wouldn't?
Obviously.
But they didn't like really discuss what that could be.
but this was never the plan.
He was supposed to say bye.
Steve, he,
Chris Evans for years planned on never coming back.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
I'm excited for it.
Blended time.
Revisionous history done by the creators is crazy.
And if everyone's going to revision a history,
it's going to be the creators.
I mean,
I'm curious how I feel.
I'm watching it in a few hours,
but I definitely am,
I'm so attached to the arcs of the big three.
Like, I'm so attached to that cap,
Thor.
Tony arc.
I don't know how I'm going to feel if they just go like,
not done yet,
scene.
Like,
that's a weird thing to do.
Let me know how you feel afterwards.
I will.
I will.
Sequence breaker.
I hate the Loki scene,
Steve's scene,
a little less simply because it addresses the scene
of past Loki grabbing the Tessoract
because that was an unfalled story beat
in scenes if you only watch the movies.
That is a really good point.
And I forgot to bring that up
because that was something I did have as like,
well,
one cool positive is that if you watch,
like you watch Endgame
and then he takes the test.
racked. It's a good tease of like, whoa, what happened?
That's what does the Loki guy do? Yeah, there's another side. So it does have that
cliffhead. But I feel like an ending should end and not be a cliff, not be a cliff hangar for
in that capacity. That's why we specifically referenced far from home as the movie that had like an
ending. And then there was a post credit scene that was like literally no way home picks up
seconds later after that post credit scene. Yeah. We're not even seconds later. It's it cuts into the
post credit scene. Yeah. Now like if we use the timeline explanation on local
Steve caused a branch timeline.
The TVA allowed it.
I believe Doom is also supposed to destroy the TVA.
That's Barry apparent he's going to be attacking the TVA at least.
There was the whole thing at D23 where it was all wrecked.
And I think they even said something about it.
Like at D23, they had a thing where he could walk the TVA.
And yeah, there was like a definitely like a big fight broke out and shit.
Cool.
So yeah, good to be attacking the TVA.
That makes sense if he wants control.
Do you think, do you think Doom will bring up King?
Yes.
I think he'll mention him.
I think we might even get like a recast for a scene or two.
Like I feel like Kang has to do something.
That would be nuts.
Yeah.
I would like a little bit of a Kang back.
And I want to see that Daily Wire movie right now.
Yeah.
Jacob Beach.
I think it might have been a mistake to re-release endgame.
Saw it in a pack theater last time.
And all I remember was how perfect every character's ending is.
The energy felt like the theater agreed.
Why was that a mistake, though?
Because now they're undoing those ending.
Oh, oh, so he's like kind of in
agreeance with us?
I think, yeah, it sounds like it.
I mean, that like a lot of people
liked where it ended there.
And now that's getting undone.
I mean, this is we got to roll with.
That's what doomsday is.
Yeah, here we are.
Going to see how we feel in December.
When the Rousseau's got hired,
they were like, I don't want to watch all this shit.
No.
I'm going to make it a sequel link.
I'm going to pull a Sam Ramey.
I'm just going to make the thing.
I don't need to watch Wanda Vision.
Wanda, you're bad.
Great.
I mean, we're multiverse of math.
madness, they were thrusted into a position where they didn't, it wasn't like, I don't want to watch it.
Like, it wasn't done. Yeah, but they could like read the scripts. There was access to the information.
No, I don't blame Sam Ramey. All right. I blame you for your cynicism. Yeah. I blame Toby for corrupting Sam Rame.
Chris, have either of you seen Jumper? I have. Yep. I'd be curious for your thoughts are on it. Fun time for a reaction if you get the chance. Great cast stellar visuals and an interesting take on teleportation. Yeah, I remember they made
like a YouTube show.
I dug it.
There's like YouTube Red.
That's how Cobra Kai started.
It's the first season.
Crazy right.
First or second season,
both of them,
I think we're on YouTube Red.
I was gonna realize there's the time.
There's a YouTube Red.
And yeah,
they had put,
they made like a jumper show
that Doug Lyman did actually helm.
I was think he was really trying
to make like an IP out of it.
That'd have been cool.
I like jumper.
I don't remember it,
but I remember being like,
this is a little cool than I thought
they would actually be.
I thought it'd be silly and stupid.
But no, it's actually all right.
And they threw a lot of money on it.
That's how we got a jumper, Doug Lyman.
Like, it's crazy to think about what money we got thrown at those streamers in the beginning.
Those shows would never exist now.
Doug Lyman started the Bourne universe and everyone just looks at the Paul Greengrass films.
Doug Lyman directed Roadhouse.
Yes, he did.
I still love that movie.
I was still one of my favorite actors in the channel.
Mr. Elmack, I've had numerous disagreements with people saying the OG ending is out of character for Steve.
Now the new ending is basically saying, yeah,
you're right. This is the first time I'm upset about it. Which part are you upset about exactly? The fact that yeah, you're right or the fact that the OG ending for Steve is out of character. I think it's in character. I think he earned it. I don't understand not resting. Like not having a victory. Otherwise, he's just forever fighting.
Yeah, I didn't feel like it was out of character. I thought it was perfect. I love the ending in that film. I feel like he put the stones back. He did his job.
Right, and then he got to be a person.
He got to be Steve Rogers.
He got his last dance, which they set up the first time we meet him.
You know, if the roosters are really bold,
they'd explain how he put all the stones back.
I feel like that was one of the fan theories
of like what Doomsday could be, but I don't know if they...
Like the soul stone. How do you put the soul stone back?
What was this conversation?
And he's like, well, fucking Red Skull, huh?
Yeah, exactly.
So, bro.
To put a stone back, you don't have to do a soul for a soul, do you?
Or life or a life or give up something you love.
He's got a boop his nose.
Yeah.
He doesn't have one.
Or, uh,
Put the ether back in a fucking Natalie Bormann?
Like how does it do all those things?
Shows a stone in Vision's head.
How does he know where the ancient one is?
He knows how to contact her directly.
He's had this rooftop.
This is a plus show.
I'd be down.
Yeah, watch.
Chris, I still wish RDJ was not doom.
He's great, but it's distracting and brings more questions and answers.
Mark Strong would have been my choice.
Well, it's really simply.
Just as a variant.
He shares the same face.
You see, there's a cave, and he's going to be.
making a Doom mask.
I don't feel like he's, okay,
I think they're going to know,
it's what you said about the Captain America,
Chris Evans, Deadpool Wolverine thing.
That's what it's going to be.
I don't think human torch is a variant of Captain America.
He just has this in this universe.
That's the face he has.
Right.
But Deadpool thought that was Captain America.
And now we're going to get a serious version of that with Dr. Doom.
But they didn't have human torch holding a shield.
It was Deadpool that made the joke that he's going to say it.
He's going to say it.
Then he said a flame on instead of a symbol.
The problem becomes if there's a scene of someone hammering,
then it's doom making motions that are associated with Iron Man.
Yeah.
That's beyond like what they already did as a comedic take.
They were having him enact an Iron Man thing, which is way worse.
I knew you were going to love that when I told it.
I'm so fucking upset.
We're going to find out tonight.
Oh, when I texted you, that was.
Yeah, that was the one.
But I texted you about like, not about the thumbnail.
I texted you about like, there's one.
I'm just so curious to hear your thoughts on it.
I'm like, it's a brief second.
Just stay.
All right.
Diego Guevera.
We've had multiple looks of Doomsday, but TVA post credit scene is the first thing out of everything we've seen that the stakes feel fucking real.
That's exactly the point.
That's why I was trying to like dilute some of the experience of it, some Coikin experience.
I'm excited to see it.
Because yeah, that scene is, that is like a.
great. I think it's the one, that one scene.
Like, that's a great scene. And it is one that's like,
ooh, that's intense. It is, it's the
best scene of before. And it has
no popular,
like, no popular Marvel character.
Yeah. Like, it's the biggest one,
Mobius. That's awesome. That's such good character work. I love that.
That's great. But it is the most, it is
one that's like, oh, shit. Like,
I'm starting to feel this. Yeah. I can't even see it in the theater.
I'm really excited. Tyler,
do you guys still read stream labs? Yeah, man.
What the fuck? Ray, pull them up.
I hate you, Ray.
Never liked you.
Yeah, it's Ray's fault.
We haven't read them.
Guys, blame Ray.
Can you refresh that?
Did you ever go by Sugar Ray?
I would have.
He doesn't know who that is.
Oh, no.
Are you so young,
you know how Sugar Ray is?
Oh, fuck.
He said, is that an artist?
Oh, fuck.
He's the first black president.
Yeah.
Sugar Ray is a band
that was in the T.R.
era, which I thought you might have known as like a young kid, but not not known.
Shriveray's, they're pretty great.
Please do.
It's kind of like 90s rock me to like lounge singer.
It's like a fun.
It's a chill vibe.
It's like not quite red hot chili peppers chill, but it's in that direction of chill,
but with more of like a loungy Sinatra edge.
He doesn't know Sinatra.
Anonymous.
Anonymous.
I just want to say, I did not catch this before, but thank you.
Just had to show some love because it was so soaked to see the transfer.
is 806 release on Transformers Air September 17th,
how to go to work.
And there you guys were reviewing it.
Thank you, buddy.
Thank you.
Yeah, we don't.
We were excited to do it.
That was fun.
Ditto, UV, my birthday soon.
So I want to see you guys are amazing.
Also, I really hope Loki is integral to the story because it's like, I don't know,
it would be wussy if Doom just fucks Loki over or something.
But oh my God, seeing him was chills.
Hey, glad you had that experience, man.
Hell yeah.
Are you a birthday soon?
I thought it happened on your birthday.
I'm glad you got to celebrate around your birthday by getting a Loki moment.
If Doom kills the god of stories, who's going to control the god of stories?
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know if he's going to become Molecular Man where he's trapped in Doom's control,
and he's then just working the machinations because I do feel like without that element.
But they've also put themselves as a very tricky spot with like bringing Loki back at all with that.
Like that was such a perfect ending to be like tucked away over there.
or not have to be like what does that actually mean now we've got to ask that question like they
have the perfect ending of like you've given me just enough without me asking questions now i have
questions and it does imply too because that is easily the like quantum mania's like he got king's a
villain in it but he the one where you really understand king and his whole backstory is the one we
have to watch is the show yeah that's that's that's that's that's what i think time he's going to get a
yeah like there'll be some kang so i definitely do think that like they'll like they'll like
acknowledge it in some way because they are saying
more than just watched Loki's story
like you're telling you to experience
the Kang story. And Mobius is
the biggest scene you just described like
and that's integral to Kang. Yeah, it all
is. He who remains
is the one who created the fucking TVA.
So yeah, it would be
kind of have to. You kind of have to. So yeah, it
seems like they are factoring in the Kang story.
That was something
I just feel like would be annoying if they're like
they don't talk about the
main thing of that story.
Diego Guevara.
I'm 100% sure that we will see D-D,
but season one and two ended with a radiohead song.
It's over with season three.
What radio-ahead sound would you all choose to end it with?
I don't know, radio-head that well.
I don't know radio-head that well at all.
I didn't get into radio-head like a lot of my friends.
I'm going to pull up Radiohead.
Or maybe.
What other song would you end it with?
Daredevil?
Yeah.
Corn's blind.
Nice.
I do hit the road, Jack.
by Ray Charles.
Yeah.
Why?
Because he's done.
Ray Charles is blind.
Oh, I thought because like the shows overhit the road jet.
Or I do Georgia by Ray Charles.
Because he's blind.
Because he's blind.
I see.
It's not about themes.
No.
It's about blindness.
I would love to get Daredevil's powers, man.
Blindness?
Yeah.
I could do it.
I can blow it off.
I mean, I'm heading that direction.
Karma police was well used.
I think that was one of them.
Creep is their most popular song.
I don't know if they've used creep yet.
Oh.
Let down because that's how I feel about not getting a season four.
Let's move on.
We got this, Ray.
Chris, if Dynamic Duo is DCU,
I love the casting for Batman Dick and Jason.
I'm glad someone does.
Coy doesn't really,
uh,
you still think Jake Gyllenhaal can pull it off?
Yeah, I think he'd be the best.
I, the prisoners,
Jake Gyllenhaal is Nightcrawler,
love another drugs Jake Jelenhall is Bruce Wayne like he is he's got a darkness to him he's got like
he's a movie star who can play Talia Alguel opposite jakey jakes or just in the DCU
what if that's who Adrian R. Hon is actually playing that'd be crazy but yeah who would play
Talia for you Talia al-Gul yeah gal good deal no um man that's such a specific character
I don't know a lot of like
mysterious
menacing power sexy
Yeah I mean that's a lot of
But like Middle Eastern
But like very specifically like charged
Whoa
Like even Rashallel was hard to cast
Because like I fan cast
Your wife told me about this
I fan cast Damian Wayne
As a kid that's like
A quarter Romani
And everyone was like
Cois racist
That character has to be at least half Romani
Romani is the whole point of his heritage
So I don't know what region
Of what country Talia
is supposed to be from and I'm afraid to speak out because I'm racist.
The fact that I got back to Olivia.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
I was hoping you had an answer off.
No, I'm sorry.
Stephen McGrary, thoughts on Clayface trailer and confirmed rated R.
Oh yeah, I thought it was been rated for a while.
Yeah.
I have not seen the new trailer.
I feel like we've seen enough.
Yeah, I stopped watching trailers.
But I've been excited for that since in Cimicom when I watch half the trailer through
my hands.
Yeah, man, I feel like it's going to be an awesome time.
Very excited.
Next part.
Alan Smithy.
Hey, buddy.
Hey, Ryan.
Hey, hey, Greg and Coy.
Glad the Friday live stream is back.
They're loving watching lanterns with you guys.
And I'm always positive about more Lord of the Rings reactions.
Oh, no, Gandalf is dead.
Always a great moment.
Thanks, guys.
Yeah, I'm glad they're having a good time.
And we made sure they watched the extended edition.
We paid attention.
We paid attention.
Loving lanterns too.
We're last two episodes.
Oh, my God.
Seven and eight.
And I love that the show's gotten so big.
It's crazy.
Like, it's like, top five HBO Max.
Like, that's huge for a show that's,
so serious and like I didn't know how I would do I hope it translates me too hey there junior
I would love to be Kyle Chandler I'd rather be him than Daredevil yeah hey there junior
I just hope you have like a Kyle Chandler renaissance like I hope it's one of those roles that
everyone loves him so much we see him everywhere because he's such a fascinating he's so charming
I mean yeah what he plays is Hal Jordan is not too far off of other roles he can play but like
we don't we don't Kyle Chandler's not like a how
household name like he could be.
I'd like to see like.
Yeah.
I agree.
I love him in interviews.
Christian Unpronounceable.
Oh, before I forget, I want to shout out.
Our show is trending.
Dude, that first day one,
fucking over $130,000 raised for the show.
That was crazy.
That was insane.
Better than we expected.
So thank you to everyone who contributed to that.
We're like 90% of the way there actually now.
We're pretty, pretty close.
Shield vids.
I really believe that Marvel should use your Wolverine series idea.
Maybe every three episodes we enter a new time period for him,
nine to 12 episode season.
I think it'd be great.
I think the TV is the only way I want Wolverine anytime soon
because he could be separate of the X-Men and also the agelessness.
I think it's perfect.
Me too.
Thank you, Shield.
Thank you, buddy.
Thank you.
All right, guys, Koi has to go host the Avengers.
Thank you, my God.
I got to go watch those scenes.
I love so excited about.
After all that.
watch those scenes I'm so excited about.
I'm sure I know you though, man.
You'll be with a crowd.
I'm going to enjoy the experience.
It's probably going to play totally different for you.
You know, it wasn't so bad.
And whether I don't like the scenes or not, I will not be so like that I won't enjoy the
experience.
Like I'm very excited about the experience of watching in game in a theater and new scenes
with a crowd.
That's going to be great.
And that's my, Anya's first I've seen it ever.
She's only watched.
What?
Yeah.
It's on his first time?
She's only watched like a third of the MCU.
So I'm really curious what she thinks the movie like.
Has she's seen an infinity?
War? No.
So she's going to be our litmus test.
Yeah.
Of someone who watches a bunch of post credit scenes for stuff that she's like, I have no idea what the fuck we're talking about.
Has she not seen Infinity War?
No.
You just asked.
I said no a second ago.
I asked that question with the assumption that it would be yes.
Why would you do this to your wife?
Because she hasn't seen Infinity War on the things tonight.
But you've had a week to show her Infinity War.
I've seen nine movies in the last two and a half days, Craig.
Just fucking ask her to watch it.
why didn't you ask her to watch you know why she would so find out what kind of experience
why would you wait wait what why would you i i don't understand why you of all people
would let your wife watch this without her infinity war like if there's anyone who has to
uphold the experience of endgame for the love of your life
so baffling
you wouldn't show like
make sure she watches Infinity War
I don't know she
That's a no questions asked
You make the time
You divide it into three separate nights
If you have to
Like I don't understand
Why you wouldn't fucking show this to her
This is so weird
Maybe I'll get her to watch it right now
This is so weird
I don't think she would
I can see like a bunch of other people
Making this decision like a fuck it
Who cares but like
It's you
Everything we just talked about
Preserving these periods.
Like, what she's not...
After everything we talked about.
She's not attached.
Who gives us shit?
I don't think she was.
She's definitely not going to be attached now.
She's going to be bored out of her fucking mind.
She's not going to have any context for what the fuck she's watching.
I only found out I was hosting this a day and a half ago.
I, here I am.
It's two hours and 20 minutes.
You could have divided it up into sections.
I'll see if I get her to watch him.
Oh my God.
It makes no sense to me.
I can't believe we're ending.
this way.
Thanks to everyone who's been in
Morda stream.
What do you mean? Greg wants you.
You should want her to watch Infinity War.
I don't understand why I'm, how,
how is this the thing where I'm trying to tell you of all people to do?
This makes,
you have no right to be mad about the encore.
All right,
all right, guys.
I've never seen it.
Greg crash out like Koi crashes up.
This is nuts.
This is no makes no sense.
It doesn't line up with the person I know.
Like, who would it make sure they watch this?
All right, guys.
Well, I'll thank you for everyone who's been here.
Thanks to everyone who's been kind.
You're not here next week.
I'm not here next week.
Yeah, I'm out of town.
If you see me in New York, please say hi.
And then I will be, I'll be here.
We'll have another show together before.
We'll have one more before you go.
And then you're out for two.
Yeah.
So he won't be here to talk about Clayface.
You selfish bastard.
I'm going to Ireland.
All right. Bye, everyone.
Bye!
Captain America was selfish.
That's right. Like me.
Captain America sucks.
You're a dick sucker.
