The Reel Rejects - Awards Season & Hollywood Marketing Are An Absolute Mess (Timothée Chalamet, Spider-Man 4, Lanterns)

Episode Date: March 14, 2026

Hollywood feels weird right now… and awards season might be the messiest it’s been in a long time. On this Reel Rejects live podcast, Greg Alba & Coy Jandreau are diving into all the biggest movie... news, Oscars controversy, Marvel speculation, DC reactions, and Hollywood marketing chaos happening right now. We’re talking Oscars predictions, the Timothée Chalamet backlash over his opera and ballet comments, BAFTA controversy, the bizarre Jim Carrey clone conversation, and why people are seriously asking: where is the Spider-Man: Brand New Day trailer? We’re also getting into the Lanterns trailer reaction, why some DC fans were left disappointed, and why Aaron Pierre being part of Man of Tomorrow could still be a huge sign for the future of the DCU. And of course, we have to talk about the Marvel reunion being teased for the Oscars, all the Avengers: Doomsday trailer speculation, and whether Hollywood marketing has become way too obsessed with hype, “moments,” and forcing people to care instead of actually building excitement the right way. Is awards season broken? Is Hollywood marketing a complete mess? And are fans getting burned out by the nonstop hype cycle? Follow Coy Jandreau:  Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:46 Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Uh-oh. Still not live. That's very much live. People are in the chat. I only see Roxy in the chat. Oh, maybe. video.
Starting point is 00:02:02 It looks like now we are. Are we now live? I think it might be now live. Oh my God. Are we live? Someone tell us they can hear us. We weren't before. So we weren't live.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I have refreshed the page again. But Roxy is assuredly in here. It says my connection is excellent. Suddenly there's so much noise from two phones in here. It's from the mics. And are we live? We're live. We got there.
Starting point is 00:02:29 It was a lot. We'll redo the thing. Roxy hated that we turned this into a live podcast. That's how I want to start this. Oh, did she? Yeah. Isn't that like the joy? Is this like Monday?
Starting point is 00:02:38 This is like months ago when she just, why doesn't she like, is it because she doesn't like live? She said something about the quality going down and I couldn't agree more. Gotta live boldly. I think the quality went out as per the intro. That's why every intro like, are you able to film now? Are we able to talk to each of? other now? Are we loud to speak? You know, sometimes maybe Roxie's right. Sometimes. Sometimes she is.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Here's a little preview of what happens every single time before we record. I usually show up, you'd like third to last and I'm usually like, okay, try to be, trying to be in a better mood today. Trying to be at a better mood. Coy's like being all chipper, trying to keep the energy up. And then John is just looking like it's having the worst fucking life ever. Every, every, every I'm good until he sits in that chair. Every stream, John's just, everything was perfect. And now everything is wrong.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And I don't know what happened. I'm just here for morale. I'm not even here from expertise. I'm here to keep morale up. But we are not AI. We are live. No. That's what counts.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Only humans could mess up this way. And now we are going to have more of an old school of how we originally wanted to do the podcast. I asked, yesterday I had to ask quite this question. like four times to get it through to his head. Like, what do we want to talk about? Well, here's the news. News, news, news, news. And I'm like, no, what do we want to discuss?
Starting point is 00:04:10 Are we allowed to do what we want on the internet? This one's for us today. Yeah, there's been a lot of like sassy gossip. Yeah, there's stuff that I was like, what's just compelling the brain? We're seeing a lot of early super chats. Thank you guys so much for contributing. We never end a stream without going through every single one
Starting point is 00:04:26 of the super chats and stream labs. Thank you guys so much for supporting this little show. that we have been building up here. And for those who are here now taking a gamble on a topic like this, which is not our usual kind of go-to, really appreciate you. I think it's inspiring more super chats of chaos.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Like, I like the chaotic element. So whomever's here. Thank you very much. Some things that sometimes we do shows where I have zero notes, and then sometimes I got too many notes, where then I become too note-reliant. Which is awful.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Like, no, I need to get out of my head and just have a conversation. So a lot of this will just setting you up to talk quite. So we have one here. First one, we want to talk about the award season chaos because there's so many crazy things that have been going on in the past few weeks and then the Oscars are here in just a couple of days. And we want to talk late. Late. Very late. It used to be February, right? It's almost always February. Or late January. Why is it St. Patrick's Day? Oscars. And then soon it's going to be just on YouTube. Late March in the past? No. Really?
Starting point is 00:05:23 No, it's not. It's been both. We're getting movies that are eligible now in like, like, Project Tell Mary is out and that's going to be next year, it's a little strange, huh? This deep in the year, it's weird. Well, maybe they did that to, I think they had postponed it because of pandemic once. Once, and then they kind of stuck to that, yeah. And then we also want to talk a little bit about Hollywood marketing,
Starting point is 00:05:47 how that's a little bit, you know, of a, it's in flux. It's like interesting. Like, we want to talk about what Spider-Man brand new days doing and have, how like trailer rollouts have sort of become the story and how so much emphasis seems to be put more on trailers and the actual movie itself. Kind of saw that with the bride now that I think about it. I think the attention spans part of it. What do you mean, but like should we dive in or we'll get there.
Starting point is 00:06:10 We'll get there. Cheez. We'll get there. Cheats. Good call. What a tease. And, you know, like what we saw with like lanterns, how D.C. kind of got punished for withholding some spectacle. And now that marble is actually going to be going to the Oscars, the little Oscar reunion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And they need to create another moment. Just a lot of things are feeling like, conversation velocity at the moment. And it's fun, though. Yeah, that's the thing. That's the weird part. We could sit here and look mad at all the... More clicks. All the drama that's going on,
Starting point is 00:06:42 and we can do videos where we seem pissed off. Is there a tear emoji we can put on a woman's face? Should we make our eyes much bigger? And bigger and... I've learned how to thumbnail face. Greg complimented me. Yeah, I finally did it. After seven years.
Starting point is 00:06:57 It's how I, like... Where to start with? So the real, okay, the real thing that we have here is the Oscars are happening this Sunday, 98th Oscars. The one thing, the first positive thing I'll say, though, about it, that they're getting right. And this is not just bias. It's not even in my notes. Conan O'Brien. I was going to say this.
Starting point is 00:07:17 If you didn't say it, I was going to agree. I was going to say having a host and then having a good host. How do you, you like the, you champion more the significance of the Oscars more than I personally do. I'm kind of sick of them and I don't really, I don't even. watch them. It's brand new. There's only been 98 of them. Yeah. What a concept. There was one year Humphrey and I tried doing a live stream of it.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I've encouraged it every year. And we've, we were so bored that we ended it. And then the moonlight, la la la land debacle happened 20 minutes later. I was like, what the fuck? We ended before what's the biggest moment?
Starting point is 00:07:53 Until the best picture moment. The clicks we could have gotten. Yeah, we could have got that reaction. slip outs. But that's what I mean. The award show season seems to be so much about, like, more about,
Starting point is 00:08:05 wow, they don't. It's so crazy. I've told them this is this award season of chaos. It's happening real in time. Alex, can you do me a solid? Can you go to them and tell them to stop running the shower next door? That's a shower.
Starting point is 00:08:17 That's a shower. We discovered the source of that annoying noise and it's a shower. It's a place of business. So the Oscars, in my opinion, the beauty of the Oscars is, on the cynical side,
Starting point is 00:08:29 I understand that it's like in-house giving each other awards for art and that to some people is like egotistical. To me, I think every job should have more merit-based like congratulations. Like I think any job, it's just this one has spectacle. This one is something that like we advertise and we make big and like it is a job like any other. And if you actually go to any of these award shows, it is just like going to like a VFW. Like it's a conference and people are sitting except for these people are shiny. So it's not that it's more important than any of. other thing. I think the difference is it's a way to advertise and raise awareness for art.
Starting point is 00:09:03 So the reason I advocate for it is there are movies I might not have seen if not for the nomination. And I think that's the beauty of nominating, say, nine to ten best picture. That's the beauty of like raising awareness for five directors or five supporting actors. Like, you find roles in the hierarchy that you might not have been exposed to. So I think the beauty of award season is beyond the ego boosts awareness raising. Like I wouldn't have known her Wagner, Mora, if not for this like campaign where he's next to four actors I'm a big fan of and then I looked into him. I wouldn't have known, uh, you know, some of the films that got best picture nominations necessarily without the hype. So I think it's a really wonderful thing to raise awareness while also
Starting point is 00:09:42 the job itself of making film is so icebergy. Like we see this part and this is the rest. I think it's really beautiful to give people that have worked hard their whole lives a few months of like, hey, this is the best thing we've seen. Let's just say how cool. And I like Michael B. Jordan right now. He's getting this like, you know, Heroes Tour. That dude's been doing this for like 15 years. And I feel like now he's getting his laurels in a bigger way. And I think that's a really special thing that we should celebrate humanity more. And art is a reflection of humanity. So I think that award season is a beautiful pinnacle of looking at what people do, which is share their emotional journey and celebrating it. So the question that comes down to what do we choose to focus on, though? Because what you're talking about is what the idealism of what, which is what I do. like Oscars and awards show season should be. We're talking about the ballet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:35 You should be talking about the opera. We were talking about what it ought to have. Kind of what actually what I grew up with with the Oscars. I used to love the Oscars when I was a kid. And I feel like it used to exceed these small little film niches. Like your advocacy for art and raising awareness, I don't think that's the impact of the Oscars anymore. I feel like it's very minuscule. in that department.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I think we've seen the politics too much. Well, that's all it is now. We've exposed the, we saw it to the hood. Sure. And we're also in it. Like I think there was a time, if, say, what we did was 20 years ago, this would be the equivalent of having like an entertainment tonight or a broadcast news show. And we as individuals might know too much for it to be enjoyable, but the masses wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Now we and the masses, I feel like, are a little too privy to like all of the machinations. I don't feel like the, Oscars have truly evolved with the changing of the industry that much. They try. They kind of try. They keep hiring TikTokers to go and make sound bites. They try with marketing tactics. Which we'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah. They try with marketing like, oh, let's get a Marvel reunion going, which might boast, bode well for Marvel, perhaps. Or that's why I think Conan O'Brien is like the smartest get they could have gotten because Conan has managed to stay consistent, stay in the zeitgeist, stay like number one, even when he left television. he's somehow still managed to be like the biggest superstar. I think he bridges the gap between the old Oscars.
Starting point is 00:12:04 He's the only one. Right. Like he's a host like a Billy Crystal and that era, but he's also like internet era plugged in. Exactly. And he's the only one. He's got every demographic and everyone trusts it. He has a level of trust that most people wouldn't be able to garner.
Starting point is 00:12:21 And he's got all ages and he's worldwide. Simpson's been on for 40 years. A lot of people I know tune in just because of Conan Ovi. And that's why you need a host. I don't understand why. for so many years there was like a hostless Oscars where there people would just wander up and be like, I'm gonna say a thing that I think's funny.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And I was like, who wrote that? What is happening? And then they just cut to someone. And it was longer because more people would quasi host. Yeah. We need structure. I think that one of the best hosts we ever had was Hugh Jackman because he's such a showman and it's such an entertaining thing.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And you've got the clickbait. He's great. Is he the greatest? He's great. Somebody say he's the greatest showman. He's got that man. That man. But like that was the shininess of an actor doing it and the host ability of a, like,
Starting point is 00:12:59 someone, really good. Yeah. And I think that's what you need for something. And I think Conan is like that where it's like there's a presence and he's a good host. And on top of that too, like his on the online promotions that he does are so good. Like the promo for that he does like the interviews, the podcast, even the variety. There's like variety or Hollywood reporter cover magazine one.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Like his his satire and self deprecation is the thing that the Oscars needs to kind of take the piss out of itself and lead up to. He's doing chicken shop date. Like he's doing the press tour that actors do for movies for the Oscar hosting. Do you see his Jimmy Kimmel interview? No. He did an interview on Jimmy Kimmel where he was revealing the train dream, the number one train dreams joke they had because they can't come up with a train dream's joke.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And he just decided to like reveal it there. He's talking, he's talking about the failure of trying to come up with the joke for it. That's great. That's what I mean. It's like, it's this insightful thing. And the landscape of media has changed so much where like movies and shows are all feeling like
Starting point is 00:13:58 content now and what clicks with audiences and Oscars now because of what movies have evolved into throughout streaming platforms through independency through what actually becomes popular, we would see the disconnect between audiences and Oscars for a while. But usually there was enough like big tent pull films that really clicked with the masses that would become a big thing that's shining the Oscars. I think that's a big part of why I feel like it's too late in the year because like where Like you just said train dreams and I was like, oh right, that's this year's. Like I'm pulling for train dreams.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I don't think it's going to win, but I loved train dreams. I feel like I saw that years ago. You and I saw sinners together. Does that feel like a movie you're voting for this year? No, no. It feels like a two years ago movie. That's crazy to me. Like I loved sinners, but like we did not watch that in a period of time that feels like
Starting point is 00:14:46 that should be this Sunday's Oscar. Well, see, what and what we're talking about is it doesn't feel like right now, this is what I feel like we used to get, a great Oscar race. Yeah. That's what we used to have. I think the hype should be around who's going to win Timothy Shalemy or Michael B. Jordan. Who's going to win this award? Who's going to win best director? Who's going to win this? And of course, of course there's people out there who are concerned with that.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Of course there's people out there who love to do the predictions. I think right now John Campi is live doing just that. They're doing a prediction. And a lot of people love to get into that game. And I personally play the game too. I think it's a fun one. But that doesn't seem to be the online conversation around it. everything is about like the Oscars feels like a very online thing right now where it's all just about like drama and chaos. Like what's happened with Timothy Shalamee really does feel like a classic case of we need a villain for the Oscars. It feels like the politics of the Oscars has become truly politics. Like it used to be political how you lobbied for Oscars. Now it is politics as in we must tear down the frontrunner.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Like it's crazy that we've reached the point in movies that people are doing. like sabotage campaigns. Yeah. I can't imagine in the heyday of I think of what I think of the Oscars like Jack Nicholson up front, Billy Crystal hosting. Imagine if there was like a handwritten letter campaign of like, Jack Nicholson is. Like that's such a weird thing. But I think the internet needs more stimuli. Like have you, have you watched Anchorman 2 in the last five years? I remember it decently well. I've seen it twice. It is shockingly precient. It is one of the most ahead of its time comedies. And nobody will talk about Anchorman too. I mean, One is a classic, but Anchorman 2 is the death of journalism by way of the 24-hour news cycle.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah, yeah. I think we've now left that being the death of journalism and have now exacerbated it to. It has to be a five-minute news cycle every one minute. There has to be five minutes of content every minute on the internet because half the TikTokers and half of the YouTubers and half of the people that are making short-form content are saying like, put out 30 things a day. Yes. Yes. And so when you run out of things to talk about, the clip that Chalamay is getting dragged through is from weeks ago. But someone one day was like, what if we burn this boy? It's such false.
Starting point is 00:17:00 To me, it's false outrage. Yes. People are bored. They have too much time. And there's real shit happening. What is the exact quote that he said? It was something about like the takeaway. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I'm paraphrasing while John pulled it up. The takeaway is he said something that sounded insulting about, I guess it is insulting about the, no one cares about ballet and opera anymore. He said to me, it was, I got a one part of an industry that is. kind of on its last legs. That's what, like, he was saying, like, I don't want to be, I don't want movies to be where ballet and opera is, is how I interpret it. I don't want to be working in,
Starting point is 00:17:33 and there was like a lot of lead up to it. This is why no one was pissed off when the actual interview came out. But you pulled out of context. Context leading into it. So no one was mad. And then suddenly they clip it on, everyone's like, I don't like that one sentence.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Now, I'm not actually going to go to the opera and go to the ballet now. Well, this caused me a support. this thing I'm angry about? Certainly not. I've never been to the opera. And I think I was watching a video this week from a, I think the channel's called Keisha says I want to say it is. And she brought up a great point that like his mom is actually as a ballet dancer. So he's kind of like plugged in to like what the conversation around this would be. And maybe it's personal that ballet went away for him. He says, I don't want to be working in ballet or opera or, you know, things where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive. And what's funny is when you watch the clip, he's, you could see he's like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:18:25 what did I say? And McConaughey's like, yep, yep, yep, like trying to move it along. Because he acknowledges, he flat out says, I took shots for no reason. He says the words, like, oh, there's like a self-awareness in that moment. And what human being doesn't just say an opinion that might sound a little glib from time to time? Who doesn't say something that might sound a little tone deaf or might lack new conversations? And he's been kind of smart to position himself around like, let me do a big interview, with Christopher Nolan.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yeah, the, what's his movie night? Where for like seven days, he had different people interview him after his movie, and he showed up to all of them. I thought that was genius. It shows the body of his work. It shows like, you know, having interviews from different people
Starting point is 00:19:08 getting different dynamics out of it, not the same sound bites. And then this was January. And I, even in this soundbite written down, I see where he's coming from. I don't agree with it. Like, I don't agree with the way it was interpreted. But I think the way he meant it,
Starting point is 00:19:24 he was just trying to say he doesn't want the movies to go the way of other art that is not doing as well as it was. Well, the discourse around it is so disproportionate though. Yeah. It's obnoxious. Like, I don't think it was, it's a lot of things can coexist. Yeah. It can be tone deaf. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And like I said, they could be glib. At the same time, they can be disproportionate and it could be not malicious. It's just something that he said, but for some reason this is the thing they're like, let's ask every fucking celebrity. you would what you think about this and then you then you position every celebrity to kind of said either be in trouble or like throw them up to the bus like they have no this kid i don't know or i get in trouble yeah it's like oh shit we see what the shit timothy shallomys getting i love the ballet they're like no is that have ticket sales gone up for the ballet since this happened this is going for someone who's been to a couple ballet shows i the ballet
Starting point is 00:20:17 i find reasonably enjoyable i go more because my wife loves it but i i find it relatively enjoyable. But when I did go to in New York, it was fucking packed. And I did get, I wasn't able to go because she actually got sick. And so we had to, we didn't actually return our tickets because we were like, this is a true thing. We actually, we got tickets to Swan Lake out here. And
Starting point is 00:20:37 it was sold out at the Alex leader in Glendale. I think it was the Alex leader in Glendale. And we said, no, we're not going to refund him to support the ballet. You know? But we had that thought. Yeah. I won't support it.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Like, it's just a reality. What's crazy to me is this quote came out a while back, but then this week it got re, or last week got rehashed, the same week that AMC put out the numbers that like, we're down 10% from last year and last year wasn't great. Yeah. Like movie theaters are in a bad way and he's saying he doesn't want that to be the case. Like no one's giving the context of where he's coming from. Yeah. And that's what I was saying all last year with all the superhero movies coming out, not doing as well. I was saying like, guys, it's not that superhero movies aren't doing as well.
Starting point is 00:21:22 that movies aren't doing as well, including superhero movies. Yes. And I got this, I mean, not to the scale. I'm not running for an Oscar. But I got the same crap of trying to, like, give more context to what we're trying to say. Well, to context, he never said opera and ballet are bad. No.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That's not what he said. He said that people aren't caring anymore. Just like the way people are saying that about fucking movies. Right, that's what I'm saying. That's what you're pointing out right now. No one's saying like, oh, movies are bad. Some people say that, but there's too many movies to say that. That's a very uninformed statement in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:21:55 So he never said they were bad, but people are reacting as if he's saying they are bad. Which is costing him a lot of good grace in this Oscar rub, which is crazy. Well, it might change like optics and conversation around it, but if I'm not mistaken, I would think the vote, the boats, the votes have already. I think they closed a couple weeks ago, but I don't know with the timing of like this could have been like a hit piece two days before. Like, I don't know. But do you see like how this, this is like creating the Oscars in a way that's back to it, feeling joyless. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And terminally, we're watching just something that feels like a terminally online thing. And right now, it would sound, it seems like Michael B. Jordan will probably win the Oscar for this. But this is all I fucking hear about.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Right. Right. And Mike Jones got like nights of people giving him as laurels, but instead we're talking about him. Yeah. Not Mike. But we should be talking more about Michael B. Jordan. And Leonard DiCaprio.
Starting point is 00:22:46 The performance is in there. We should be talking about the snubs and that. That excitement around there, but this is what people like, people like an Oscars villain now. I think people like drama, period. I mean, there's a reason in reality TV took over. There's a reason like, there. Who is that person in the fucking movie that no one liked that got nominated a couple years ago with the Selena Gomez musical, the Netflix one? Oh, for Amelia Perez.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Yeah. They found some tweets you made. Carlos Sophia, I guess gone. Yeah, yeah. Like, let's find tweets that she made years ago. Yeah. Let's make her out to be like the biggest enemy right now of the season. That is what people enjoy.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And I don't even remember the Enora shit, but I remember like a. Nora was getting like slammed all the fucking time. Yeah, that was only last year. Yeah. Oh, the Austers don't feel like they're four audiences at all anymore. Like they do seem like you're saying political. They do seem very just businesslike. To my understanding that if you win an Oscar, it boosts your salary quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yeah, because the next trailer is going to say Academy Award, nominee or winner. People like the prestige of it, but it doesn't actually mean anything to the audiences as much anymore. I also think there is an element of it feeling like I've, thought for something and this gives me something that like feels real and tangible. Like I, I like our Gem award. I'm, I think, I think that's incredible. Like, I think it's so cool that we have a thing we can hold of like all the hard work. I got a Signal Award. And now when you look my name up, it's like, I'm Signal Award winning podcaster. So it's cool to have like a thing. So I think there is an element of this job is so much, any job in entertainment is so much unseen
Starting point is 00:24:12 that when there's something that you can express to someone else that makes it feel real. Like the first time my grandparents understood what I did for work felt great because I was like, They're like, oh, you do the news. And I was like, that's, you get the thing. No sound. We have sound on this side. Does the audience have sound? Let me see what's going on.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Uh-oh. For when. When did they say there's no sound? Okay. I mean, my thing's up to date. Yeah, people are, I have not seen a no sound. I don't see anything. I don't see anything about no sound.
Starting point is 00:24:46 What are you talking about? Are you watching the right stream, Alex? She's watching someone else's stream. Are you crazy, Alex? Are you crazy? Roxy was right. This is what's going to be spray painted all throughout Los Angeles. Roxy was right.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Roxy was right. People holding picketing signs. Roxy was right. Thanos Roxy. Any other? Oh, okay. So then let's talk about part of the awards section that I would like to talk about is the conspiratorial side of it. The Jim Carrey thing was fucking the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:25:33 That was such a weird day at the end of the weird days. I was so tickled by just the level of insane. Like this was full on like Sasquatch people. Yes. There was two things, right? So two things that kind of happened. Like my conspiratorial side actually came out with the BAFTA situation with the guy with a John, whatever's name is,
Starting point is 00:25:55 who had Tourette's. Is there a racism conspiracy? What's, what's the conspiracy? My own conspiracy is, oh, okay. They left that in there. They did,
Starting point is 00:26:03 because they cut out the other stuff. Yeah, I think they left that in there to generate drama. Yeah, because there was stuff they cut out. Because that's what gets attention. Now, they have come out and have said that the editors thought that they got it. I'm like, it's a very specific moment when two black people were on stage and they shouted this.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And it's such a gross moment because the rest of that week, every interview Delroy. Delroly Lindo has had the worst, like, run of press between that stupid influencer saying, like, congrats of being an up and comer, what? And then, like, getting overshadowed for years, not getting a nomination for Defy Bloods. Like, the last
Starting point is 00:26:35 four years, I've wanted Delroy Linder to get some love. He's finally getting some love. And then him and Michael B. Jordan get yelled the most horrendous thing on that stage while being, like, celebrated. And their excuse was like, sorry, we didn't catch that one. Yeah. That's crazy. Like the conversation of
Starting point is 00:26:51 I've talked with people who've worked with people with Tourette's. And I've heard both sides, actually. I've listened to videos on it. I don't have a conclusion on whether or not, like, it's sending me from an actual racist part or not. I don't know the science enough to talk to the individual, but I can. I don't have enough science to talk about the individual, but I have enough knowledge of editing. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 So it's something they easily could have edited out. And I want to say to Michael B. Jordan and Delroi Lindo's credit, holy shit, they handle that shit like fucking champs man. They could have muted that sound and even had the video if they didn't, if there was an issue. It would have just been like a pause because they were professionals dealing with something they should have never dealt with. Yeah. And to
Starting point is 00:27:33 like that that speaks a lot more to the things that I'm always like hearing about about how like black people have to carry themselves with so much extraness and public. And you see that level of fucking like non-reactive strength. It's one of the things I love about Wonder Man was that was like an undercurrent of like the strength you have to
Starting point is 00:27:50 have just to operate, much less to be someone like persecuted for an extra. Exactly. It was fucking awesome how they handled that shit. Not awesome that had happened, but how they've managed to handle it is it is the definition of fucking effortless grace and how they've done it. And I will say that the reaction from the public was the opposite. Like whether it was people attacking, again, I don't know enough about mental imbalances. Neither do I. People attacking him without knowing, people attacking them for speaking out. people attack like it was insane that everyone just wanted to find someone to be mad at and then the people that are actually in control of the stream felt like that got the least of it see that
Starting point is 00:28:26 people wanted to be mad at the humans definitely definitely and that's crazy but that's my conspiratorial side that like I have no evidence to support it other than the fact that it seems like a pretty obvious thing that they could have muted yeah that they kept that in there because they knew it would generate conversation around it people like to tune in now to things of what might go wrong what drama can we do like will smith slap fucking a like who does who doesn't watch the Oscars out going on. I wonder what might happen this time. Who will punt true this year?
Starting point is 00:28:51 Escalation. It made the Oscars so exciting. Yeah. But they saw anything that generates numbers and attention. It's like, it's very Vince McMahon type of personality's trade style. And I like the Baftas because they're, I mean,
Starting point is 00:29:03 British actors are incredible. Like the Baftas feel like, the Golden Globes feel like the party. The Baftas feel like the varsity thesis actors. And the Oscars feels like Hollywood's version. Like, there are three very different shows. I love the Baftas. So when I talk about the BFTAs, it's usually about the performances,
Starting point is 00:29:20 but I feel like the Bafters doesn't get the level of conversation. The Oscars do because it's not ours. Yeah. This year we're talking about the Bafas. Yeah. Yeah. See, I'm going to say the thing that you're not supposed to say, but this is the reality of what's happening is that I do on a very personal moral level,
Starting point is 00:29:37 fucking hate what happened. I don't agree with what happened. And they should have muted that out. It shouldn't have been there. Then when it comes out and then videos are getting made, the drama becomes this weird version of entertainment, even for myself as a consumer, to go, there's something entertaining about this drama,
Starting point is 00:29:56 and then I become part of that fucking problem. You know what I mean? And then other people are talking about. Everyone who's like, this shouldn't have to do that. All the people who are consuming and going online and everything. We don't realize how much we're all feeding into it, though. Like, I feed into it.
Starting point is 00:30:11 We all feed into it. We're talking about right fucking now. maybe because there is something there's not it's that weird feeling though like something doesn't feel right about I feel like a running man you know it has that type of like dystopian flare of media and it's hard because there are so many people
Starting point is 00:30:27 how I phrase this delicately there are so many people that are so willfully ignorant that want things to be the new status quo that are fighting for regression that are able to dismiss things because of ignorance that don't realize these men are celebrating art and are celebrating achievements
Starting point is 00:30:52 and now that's tarnished in a way that they can't just say it's fine but have to act as if and then those same ignorant regressive people can belittle them in either direction if they acknowledge it or if they don't acknowledge it. So either way it's a giant step back and that's so appalling
Starting point is 00:31:10 and again I'm not informed enough to speak to the individual, but I am informed enough to speak to the people that are interviewing them and asking. Like, I think that's gross. And I think it's, it's gross that it's turning into more of the conversation than the actual achievement. Yeah. Fullheartedly. It's just, it, like, I don't know. We don't get better like this. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and that we should be progressing. Like someone in the live chat said, like, I miss early 2000s when we just enjoyed things. We've certainly regressed in a lot of ways, but there were different problems in the 90s and 2000s, there's this thing where we just look to the past as like better
Starting point is 00:31:47 than it was. Unfortunately now, things are just much more publicly repulsive. Yeah. I think what Hollywood has down right now is they're very good at managing attention. Yeah. But they're worse. They're really bad at managing meaning. Meaning is gone now. I think they're great at managing attention. I think they're worse at managing retention. Good. Yeah. Because there's no way. to keep someone entertained without it being dramatic. Yeah. You can catch them, but then they're gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:18 And that's going to speak to my marketing conversation. It is very much the Maximus gladiator. Are you not entertained? That's exactly what this feels like. People want something they can swipe. They want that moment. And because we're in a attention, retention grabbing culture and trying to like keep people engaged in that first
Starting point is 00:32:34 couple of seconds, they need the drama. And the Jim Carrey thing, though, is just a, is hilarious. That feels a lot easier to say. insane. It's I'm I'm a little obsessed with in this this definitely stems from my own little insecurities with body image and aging and everything is the how celebrities are now all getting like the same kind of plastic surgery or like the men do the over kind of Botox and the lifts they all started looking like the same Instagram faces a lot of the women are getting the overdeveloped cheekbones
Starting point is 00:33:07 really the fat from their cheeks like yeah we're seeing so many of the same fucking surgeries and I'm, I am a little obsessed with like seeing the before and afters and watching videos about it and seeing how people are like, like what's happening with the social media age, how it's affecting both men and women and how they're doing it in their like 30s, getting surgery
Starting point is 00:33:25 in the 30s usually they wish. What are these people going to look like in their 60s? Yes, like if you start wild. Yeah, it's wild. And to me, I saw Jim Caron. I'm like, yeah, it just looks like one of those fucking cases. Yeah, like I didn't, was there anyone that was like Bradley Cooper's not Bradley Cooper and that dude looked way more different. He looked way more different than, like, that is to me, Jim Carrey with work.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Bradley Cooper, if I ran into on the street, I might have been like, is that Thadley Cooper? I think it's just something that maybe Thadley Cooper. I think it's something that we perhaps got carried away with because Jim Carried away. What? Jim Carried away. That took me a while. I was like, what movie did he start? called Carried Away Because I talked C-A-R-R-I-E-D
Starting point is 00:34:13 Not C-A-R-R-E-Y A pun so bad The person that said it couldn't understand What I was punting Probably just me You were saying I was saying that He got carried away with the makeup
Starting point is 00:34:24 This has to do I think With our pariscial relationship With Jim Carrey though A guy who in the last few years Has evolved into Mr. Anti-Hollywood And he goes out there With like a big beard At the Golden Globes
Starting point is 00:34:34 And make speeches Talking about how this is the most meaningless thing he goes on a red carpet and is like, I wanted to find the most pointless thing. So he seemed like the last person who might actually succumb to doing weird Botox or whatever injections and fillers and maybe got carried away with it. So that's what I think happened with this association. And it just looks like post injections and surgery. I don't know the full details of what it might be, but that's all that really happened.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And it just depends on lighting. It depends on shots. And you know, I also got an elastic face. That's what he's known for. So someone with a dynamic elastic face getting work is probably going to look more dynamic. And we're so used to people who, when celebrities are going on, our online world has evolved into something so weird now that people genuinely believe he had a clode up there. It was crazy for me was like, there was about five minutes where I was like, you know, things are just messed up enough. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Like, I don't think I ever fully believed it, but I had a moment. I had a moment of apathy of like everything's gotten so weird. What if that's just today? Like when I found out like Tom Brady apparently cloned his dog. No. And I was like, I don't know if that's true or not. I'll never know. But apparently Tom Brady's dog is a clone of his old dog.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And I have to just live with that maybe being true. That's so sad. It is. I'd clone Spidey in a second. Like I would, but like I don't have Tom Brady money. But like. But it's not the same. No, they don't have the same like person.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I mean, mate, I don't know how much of the nature, nurture of an animal is. But you deserve the right to test out that sci-fi novel scenario for yourself. And the goat with six Super Bowl rings apparently has. And, but that's what's crazy is like, I don't, I would undercut the meaning of, of, of original Spidey, though. I would feel like he was Ben Riley. I'd name him Ben.
Starting point is 00:36:27 But at the same time, you need to do this now. This is canonically appropriate. But you're right. Like, I would definitely, I would have a hard time. Like, if he did something unspity like, that would break my heart, like those things. But the fact that. like that Tom Brady thing is even a possibility in reality.
Starting point is 00:36:41 There was five minutes where I was like, wouldn't it be just crazy enough if the things that are actually being proven true? Sure, Jim Carrey. Why not? Like, the world is so exhausting. I don't like the fact that I didn't feel engaged enough to pursue it. Like, I'm so broken down by the world. I'm like, I don't care. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:36:59 That's crazy. Like, every time there's like a UFO rumor like aliens and stuff, I'm like, sure. Why not? They're confirmed down, though. They say, haven't seen one. I believe aliens are real. But like I don't, I want to care. I believe they're exactly, they, they beam you up and probe your butt.
Starting point is 00:37:15 That's it. That's all they are. The whole thing, there's here probing it. There's here just to get some ass play out there. We're Tijuana for the universe. Just here to be a donkey show for the space. But like, that's weird. Like that we're just, I mean, and again, this is just where I'm at in life.
Starting point is 00:37:29 But it's gotten so exhausting that this is the conversation. And at no point was I like, huh, that'd be special. And the conversation. ought to have been how cool is it that Jim Carrey decided to learn French and speak to learn us to have a whole speech to honor this yeah and say it like how fucking cool is that that he did all that effort instead it's like he looks bad is it a clone his eyes are a different color I I I want to celebrate art again and I think that doesn't happen with how much time we give to dissecting everything although if it did come out that he was a clone that would be mind-blowing
Starting point is 00:38:06 and I would want to know all the layers to that. That would so cool. I would buy my words. It's my Snyder cut right here. How, how into like, yeah, like, when did it happen? Yeah. Was it before Sonic or after? Yeah, when the clone happened?
Starting point is 00:38:19 Is there a Truman show scenario where there's a real Jim Carrey trapped in a world? I'd be so down if there is a clone. I would instantly take back everything I'm saying. It'd be the way. So specifically his filmography is so specifically attuned to him being cloned. It's like, when did Rodey become a scroll? Yeah, that would be. But I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:38:36 This was such a weird one. The world has gotten so strange. There's a comment. About what? About what, Alex. I'm just seeing... About the poster. What poster?
Starting point is 00:38:50 People were just wondering why my poster is. Okay, let's hear it. What's your conversation you had with John? About the poster, Alex. You are the separate combo. It's a separate thing. Because Coyne are not wearing headphones so we can... You're not...
Starting point is 00:39:08 It's not entertaining enough for you. It's morbid time. It's the Morbius poster you gave me from the Morbius premiere you hosted. Yes. John is the only person I've had. I have the statue back there, but it's not here today. I've given John multiple morbius things. Well, guys, thank John for the stream.
Starting point is 00:39:36 No, I don't. Don't thank me this week. Thank me next week. Thank me next week when it doesn't look like a weird circus. Secondly, do you guys think Jim Carrey's a clone? Let us know in the chat. Do you agree with Timothy Shalamey? Do you think John Humphrey should do a video about if the Tourette's guy actually is a racist or not?
Starting point is 00:39:54 Yeah, specifically John do a video essay. This conversation has at least taught me stuff about, I mean, as shitty as that conversation has become, you know, I've learned some stuff about Caprolia. The, you know, it's had like the, the phenomenon in which you shout out stuff that. So it's not a position. It's not a poop thing. I feel like Alex is on a stream that is so broken compared to our story. I want an Alex. Jay Della Celestine said we can hear you at the same time.
Starting point is 00:40:26 We are all competing. Charlie muted himself. Anyway, guys, we're going to move on now. These topics are going to be a little bit shorter. Let's talk about some marketing debuggles here. Can I open this with a positive because we're going to go negative? What if I said no? Then I would wait.
Starting point is 00:40:43 The positive I wanted to say, when Greg asked me, what news stories do you want to cover? This had not come across my news desk at the time. And by news desk, I mean me and Greg standing. I found out that a universal has officially confirmed there is going to be a minimum of five weeks for every theatrical film, no matter how it's performing at the box office, to go up to seven weeks in 2027. This is in direct conflict with everything happening, with streaming, and with the 10% reduction in AMC. this is directly competing with that. I'm so thankful to Universal.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I hope more studios follow suit. I also think they did it right before CinemaCon because I think another bunch of studios are going to announce it so they can be the good guy first and they are the good guy right now. Five weeks is great. Let's get it up to seven. I'm very excited.
Starting point is 00:41:27 That is a good news. I mean, we need it. That's good. It's good news. It's good news. 45 days minimum. Good news. Five weekends.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Well, on to some controversial ones. Slightly controversial. This tomb will change completely in just a few days. Spider-Man brand new day is finally getting a trailer. When did the trailer for No Way Home come out? That was very different though,
Starting point is 00:41:54 because the non-stop conversation around it was like literally everywhere and every outlet. And it was a different type of hype, right? Well, I feel like this is also different than the average movie because of the images and because, like I feel like we've been talking about Spider-Man
Starting point is 00:42:10 for six months. At least. I feel like the world was hearing about No Way Home forever, though, for a while. I don't know what the world, because we're so in this bubble. Because it was the first time they would get, like, before there's Hugh Jackman coming back, before there was Blade making a came. But we didn't know they were coming back. It was just a room.
Starting point is 00:42:26 But that became the conversation that dominated of like, will they, won't they? So everyone was very interested in what this Spider-Man movie might be. Yeah. Whereas, as people are excited for a brand-new day, it definitely doesn't have that same level of anticipation because we've kind of, they can't really like repeat that. Yeah. It's now more about like,
Starting point is 00:42:45 are they going to make a good spider movie? They're going to do something cool here. They're going to make something good. And the conversation around Marvel has, has been shifting quite a bit, as we've discussed many times. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:59 nowadays it does feel a little bit like studios. Well, let me ask you this then. Do you feel like studios have kind of trained us to be more excited for the trailer strategy than the movie itself? I think marketing is a separate entity from movies more than ever.
Starting point is 00:43:18 It used to feel like marketing was a leg of distribution. Now it feels like marketing is separate to me. And I don't know if that's because we're directly involved with marketing. We have a Gem Award the M in that is marketing. Like we're so in the trailer pre-pro, everything coming up to the movie business to the point where every video we do,
Starting point is 00:43:38 people are like, aren't you covering more trailers? Like we're so directly associated with trailers. But they feel more and more removed from the actual movie because it feels like to me, the trailer has always been its own art. There is an art to making a trailer. There is an art to that two and a half minutes that needs to be severed from the movie. The whole point isn't that you just condense the movie into two and a half minutes.
Starting point is 00:43:59 But now it's getting to the point where it feels like they're like, let's show you as much as we can. Let's make a two and a half minute movie because that's like our attention spans are so short that you need to get someone to think two and half minutes is the best thing ever and hope they remember in three to six months to go give them two hours. Yeah. Like I feel like the TikTokification of our brains is causing trailers to be their own thing. I feel like the conversation that we have to have on YouTube to promote things makes it its own thing. I feel like the nature of marketing being separate has made it its own thing. So I think that those things need to find a way to coalesce more because I don't know if it's
Starting point is 00:44:38 sustainable for people to want a trailer and then a second trailer and then TV spots and then still give a shit. Like if we're showing them everything and if we're having such in-depth conversations leading up to it, does the movie matter to the same scale as the lead-up? I've said for years, I love when a first trailer comes out and then we've got months of conversation because in the window from announcement to first trailer, there's all this, what's it going to feel like, what's going to look like all these things. And then from trailer to movie, it's like, okay, now we know a sense of tone. Now we can have this imagination and we can enjoy it. I love. love lead up to movies because it's all up here. But the problem has become we then feel
Starting point is 00:45:15 entitlement. And then if it's not what we've now painted, it's suddenly not what I was promised. Yes. And that's dangerous. Yeah. Well, we're dealing with fandoms. Which is dangerous. That is very dangerous. I guess do you do you feel like studios are actually building excitement or are they manipulating attention when it comes to trailers? Or do you feel... It depends on the trailer. It depends on the studio.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I think that... I think three months is a good window for the modern trailer. I think that 12 months for an announcement is exciting, but sometimes gives too much away. Like, we got Hunger Games a year before the movie, and I'm excited for Hunger Games, but by the time it comes around and be like, yo, I saw that trailer a year ago.
Starting point is 00:46:02 I suppose it depends on the movie, right? Yeah, it depends on like... Hunger Games is one of my most anticipated of the year. year, but it's crazy to have, like, what do you do after you start a year out? And then, like, Doomsday, they're doing vignettes and they're doing a different flavor. They might have some stuff at the Oscars. We don't know. But, like, they're doing different stuff. I think the name of marketing has to change. Like, look at Junkets now. Like, junkets from five years ago were completely different. Talk shows are being replaced by podcasts. The, the next wave of, I think Variety did
Starting point is 00:46:33 the thing about influencers and it was all um influencers that basically do short form and they're like they called it the new talk show but they're not doing talk shows they're doing junkets basically so i think the language is all changing and i think marketing has to reflect that but trailers themselves i think they need to change how long they are if they're going to be more than four or five months out i'm not the biggest fan of calling a movie content i just don't know how else to phrase this, what I'm going to say, is I feel like the campaigns for stuff become oftentimes more of the content than the movie itself. The movie itself feels less like the conversation of the content. And I do keep looking at the bride for a reason because that was a huge flop,
Starting point is 00:47:20 huge fucking flop. How do I remember the trailers, both got insane views on YouTube. And that used to be a sign that, oh, man, if they're getting like this much views and this much upvotes, this is probably going to be a hit. And, you know, people are running away with like things. Maggie Gyllenhaal might be saying in interviews and then taking the clips. Like, there's so much money and emphasis put into the campaigns for stuff. Yet it doesn't really seem to be affecting the, the movie. And what you're saying about Spider-Man, that's where I'm like kind of torn with the, where to when to release this trailer. Because it's, It does feel like the movie's coming out soon, but it also got, I don't really get the feeling.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And I, and then again, I don't have this feeling with any movies anymore ever is, oh, there's a Spider-Man movie coming out soon. Like, I don't even really have that feeling. Like, oh, there's a Spider-Man movie coming out soon. And now with the marketing today, Netflix kind of does this where they'll release their trailers really close to their release date. That way people are the most aware that this is coming. So maybe they are adapting that level of strategy. Maybe they're trying to emulate. I think they're all experimenting.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I think Doomsday is an experiment in setting up hype a year out and Hunger Games. I think that Spider-Man, it's a little different than the traditional, but I don't think three months is unrealistic. And we're about to hit three months. It's out the last, it's out July or June 31st. It's out like, it's out practically July. It's March. So anytime this month is a three-month until release, if it comes out this month.
Starting point is 00:48:54 You kind of feel like people are being conditioned to obsess over trailer-dry. more than the actual movie itself. Yes. Because that's free. Yeah. People don't go support theaters. That's the problem. So then do you, okay, what's your honest assessment of the Spider-Man thing? Do you think the silence is building anticipation or do you feel like it's draining anticipation? My honest assessment as the biggest Spider-Man fan, I know, and as someone who has been professionally, personally, and as a child tied to this character, this particular one, especially.
Starting point is 00:49:28 especially, I think the first trailer was the Glasgow photos. I think that's what they needed to do. And I think that was genius. I think the second trailer was Harry Holland's footage. And now I think we wait for this trailer. And it could come out in a month and a half and I'd be happy. Like, I love that this is rumored to have like 15 villains and whether or not the studio leaked it or people just got carried away with ideas or like, I don't know how that rumor got
Starting point is 00:49:54 started, but I love it because I don't know who the big bad is. I only know Tombstone is in it. I know Scorpion is in it. I hear everything from like boomerang to the big wheel, hypno hustler Donald Glover. Like I love that because I now, as of March 13th, 2026, still get to have that up here and play around with it. And then once the movie is out, I can never have that again.
Starting point is 00:50:18 So once the first trailer is out, then I'll have a new thing to percolate on. But up until that trailer, I get to have all this imagination. So like, for me, the journey. is the whole time from the day they announced the movie until I see it. So they're all peaks for me until a bad trailer or a bad movie. They're all peaks because it's only building anticipation. I think those photos did better marketing than almost any trailer I've ever seen because I got to see photos of Spider-Man like Jay Jonah Jameson.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Like that was awesome. So I don't think it needs, but I think that we live in a trailer culture and I think we live in a me, me, me, now, now culture. So the internet's mad at a movie. Well, I'd be surprised at it. I still be surprised of it flogged. It's gonna make a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Yeah. And movies don't make a billion dollars. I don't say that flippantly. This one is gonna make a billion dollars. You feel like this one will actually make a billion? I mean, the ones before No Way Home came pretty close. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And I think we need Spider-Man now more than ever. Like I think we need a solo character. I think we want a street level. I think we want something that is this wholesome Tom Holland is getting, I love that also this looks like a professional still. That's Tom Holland's personal bodyguard in the back. I love that like this feels personal. to the point with their Tom's bodycard is in the photo.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Like his brother shooting the thing, Destin Daniel and McCretton's kid's first word was Spider-Man. This whole thing feels like, actually I'm going to use the bride. This whole thing feels like the bride where it's a family endeavor, but in a way that feels on a $200 million scope. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:42 It feels like a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man just in the team behind it. When the director's kids' first word is Spider-Man, when the lead's brother is directing the behind-the-scenes footage that's coming out, when half the talk about the lead is whether or not he got married to his MJ, This thing feels like a family film, but it's huge.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I think that's amazing, and that's the marketing for me. Well, then let's swing on to... Ah! Ah! Swing on... Swing! Let's swing on over to a different subject then. July 31st.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I was right. It's four months away. Lanterns. Yes. Let's talk about lanterns then. Because the lanterns, normally, normally what I do when something is getting discourse, as I go, okay, is it the social media, platform or is it actually the the trailer itself? Because oftentimes I'll see something on a trailer
Starting point is 00:52:32 go on on Twitter and the trailer is getting bashed. But I'm like, it's fucking Twitter. So then I'll go to YouTube and sure enough, it's not getting bashed. Lanterns on the other hand, I did see that it was getting bashed on like every platform. Have you watched it? Yeah, I like the trailer. Okay. I haven't had your thoughts yet. I personally liked it. Okay. I'm not as in like you. I'm not the most like when it comes to comics, the cosmic stuff. I'm a terrestrial guy.
Starting point is 00:53:05 It's never really been my, yeah, it's never really been my favorite part of it. I don't know. Of any comic medium of like I've never. I like Green Lantern, but I don't identify with cops of any type. Like Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow is a rare thing for me to like truly love that much.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah, but most of the time I'm not the biggest fan of it. And Lanterns was getting criticized. for like, oh, it's the drab kind of lighting. Everything feels dark. There's no green. There's nothing here that has familiar iconography outside of like you might see a ring here. And to me, though, I was like, this looks like a good television show, though.
Starting point is 00:53:42 And so does it seem to you that, okay, so then what I'm saying, do you feel like fans would rather D.C. sell them a good show or just reassure them with familiar iconography? Do you? Fans, the latter. Yeah. I it's it. D.C. is going to be such a hard thing to talk about forever.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Because there's no version of me. Actually, here we go. I am with you with the Lobo thing, but the Lobo thing wasn't put in a direct trailer. And there was a moment when your your take on Lobo is my favorite take. Because I couldn't put into words why I wasn't connecting with that little thing. And I saw your take when I was somewhere. I was in New York. I was not here with you.
Starting point is 00:54:26 And I watched your take and I was like, yes, Greg gets it. And it was so funny. I think you were making love with your fiance. I probably was. When you watched my video. Oh, Greg's got it. My bestiche. I often think of Greg, the main man when I'm making love my fiance.
Starting point is 00:54:42 That was so many lobo references while. Anyway, but it was funny because the DC is. Charlie in the chat's exploding. So was I. The problem is I really like Superman and I really liked Creature Commandos and I liked but didn't love Peacemaker. But they've only put out those three things and I love True Detective. So this take on lanterns is something else I'm looking forward to. So I'm having a problem where I work for DC as DC Studio Showcase host and I haven't had anything I genuinely did not like.
Starting point is 00:55:17 And then Lobo came out and it was separate. And I was like, no, the one time. So I agree with you that Lobo shouldn't. look like a guy wearing makeup. The whole point is that he's alien. But that is a perfect misstep for something that's cosmic. Like, if there was ever a setting,
Starting point is 00:55:32 it's Supergirl from make him fully embrace the alien side to make them fully. Like, that would be a time to go all the way. And that's why I was like, why doesn't this look right? And that's why. This to me is the opposite. We did a very campy,
Starting point is 00:55:44 spacey, crazy Green Lantern. And whether or not that movie is good or not is, well, it's not good. But it's also hard to digest. It's not something that's palatable. Martin Campbell directed Casino Royale and then Green Lantern.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Like, that movie is just the wrong tone and type. What? Yeah, dude, that's a Martin Campbell film. I didn't know that. Green Lantern is the director of one of the best bonds about Todd. The Mask of Zorro's Martin Campbell.
Starting point is 00:56:12 That's a big, I think also did the follow up to Masson's or. People don't talk about that enough. Like, that's a master director. That did, it didn't work out. So to me, the issue is the character
Starting point is 00:56:24 needs to be approachable. And if you're going to make the character approachable, then I think making it terrestrial first makes sense. And I think
Starting point is 00:56:33 making a show that's good first so you're endeared to the character before he literally takes flight makes sense. So to me, what are the good cop shows?
Starting point is 00:56:45 The ones that are gritty and like contained. I love, one of the only sitcoms I've, not in the sitcom, come. One of the only network TV shows I've liked in years is Lethal Weapon. And I love the movie. So I was shocked that I loved an adaptation that was so different. But that's network TV and it felt like it. The only way to make prestige TV with cop stuff, not only, but one of the best ways is this tone. So if you're doing space cops and you're doing something that needs to start with endearing you to the character, that's this trailer to me. Yeah. So like all of the ingredients work for me. Now, that being said, I understand how people that want, oh, uh, and wants to meet these characters already. Like, I get why they're mad, but we don't need to keep appealing to comic fans because they're always going to show up.
Starting point is 00:57:26 They show up for the good, the bad, and the ugly. We need to appeal to people that are watching HBO. And this looks like an incredible HBO show, comma, that is adapted from the Green Lantern comics. You mean Paramount Plus show? No, I don't. We'll see. Tune in to find out, 2027. But, like, whether, that's actually, that's a great example.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Paramount Plus, Landman and all the Taylor Sheridan stuff. If you're trying to appeal to people outside of the comic book space, make a good show. Yeah. But the people that are going to be yelling are the people that are looking up lanterns trailers first. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Because that is very true because they will show up. I don't think Landman fans are commenting on YouTube videos. It's a much different, yeah, it's a much different, it's a much different ass because you're saying everyone will show up
Starting point is 00:58:09 with the good, the bad, and the ugly of the fans. If this was a movie you had to pay to buy to go see, I do not think they would go to go to the theaters. I think that's when you would segregate a lot of the fan base. Right. Because they have to like,
Starting point is 00:58:22 leave and pay. But if they already have a subscription, or they can pirate it, which I am not encouraging, but we all know you do. That is, they would gladly check out the pilot, needless to say.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Right. And go, well, I'm morbidly curious, and then they'll see whether or not they actually want to be invested. Like, I thought the trailer was good because it did.
Starting point is 00:58:42 What to me, DC was doing with this one is they were selling us on tone, character, familiar VFX type of wallpaper, which I appreciated personally, because of someone who's not a zealot when it comes to Green Lantern,
Starting point is 00:59:04 I was more than happy to sell it. This appeals to my sensibilities. I like true detective season of one kind of a lot. These are the same guy I did Watchman, right? Yeah. Yeah, I love the Watchman. The guy that did Ozark, the guy that did. So showrunner of Ozark, writer of Watchman,
Starting point is 00:59:20 Tom King, of Supergirl, one of tomorrow like the writer of supergirls writing on the show well i think we're not looking at the overall bigger strategy here especially is and it's telling that erin pierre was announced to be john stewart and man of tomorrow the interconnectivity is already stronger to me than what marvel is starting to get up to yeah i think thunderbolts was the first time i was like it does matter to stuart that people want that that people are complaining about that it's not in this trailer that should be present in the man of tomorrow movie then right so we should be able to have the best of both worlds.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Also, you want these shows and movies to feel different. It's so funny how the, so Supergirl trailer dropped. Everybody's like, well, that's another James Gunn project. This drops. Like, why it doesn't look like a James Gunn project? Yeah. Make the thing feel like a different run of comics. That's the beauty of comics is I want them to feel different.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I want them to feel like different artists. I want them to feel like different writers. I want it to feel like different worlds that can come together. That's why the Avengers was so special because it felt like we were experiencing Kenneth Branagh's Thor and the power of what John did with Captain America and what we'd gotten with Iron Man mashed up and the the Joss Whedon medley felt like the different universes coming together.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I want this to feel separate from Superman and then be excited when it comes together. I think with the next trailer will probably give us a little bit more green lanternisms. If you look at, look at Peacemaker Season 1, look at Watchmen. Both of those shows start off just fucking grounded real world.
Starting point is 01:00:48 But then as they progress, they become more science fiction and more out there. So much better for the day-to-day audience. Definitely. So, and I think this is what lanterns is going to do. I'd be shocked if there was just like a drab gritty experience. He flies in the trailer. Yeah, I was so surprised.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Like they already like are planning the seats. Yeah. And people are like, oh, he mentions that he's the only human green lantern. Maybe he hasn't met guy yet. He mentions the squirrel green lantern and refers to him as a squirrel as opposed to his alien race. Why would he refer to an alien race to a guy that just found? now he's a Greenlander. Like, there's so many little nitpicks that, like, we're going to get the context of in the show.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Yeah. It's a trailer. Yeah, I like the trailer. And it's like, yeah, marketing just seems to be like all over the place. And, and it, and the problem in marketing is it doesn't seem to translate anymore to viewership or. There doesn't seem to be a direct line of, like, it's not anymore. Yeah. Yeah, there used to be a time where you can, like, really track it.
Starting point is 01:01:41 We've talked about that with reactions where it's like, is that worth reacting to? Who knows? Yeah. Like, this trailer did well, is the movie got up? I don't know. Like, there's no, you really can't tell anymore now. It's kind of wild. I was surprised by how much the bride flopped just based off metrics alone.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Yeah, I'm really curious about the bride long term with like it's made to be a cult movie, but it's so expensive. And I'm really curious what it does on video. I'm really curious what it does like at home because it feels like it's made to be like a grind house movie. It wasn't my thing. I liked the swings it took. They just didn't connect for me. Like I wanted to like the bride more than I liked the bride. But I wonder what that's ramifications are going to do with how poorly it did versus the trailers versus the hype.
Starting point is 01:02:20 There will be certain ramifications, absolutely. Like, I don't know how many big swings. But then the other side. You had a good run. I know you've turned my camera off. But, you know, if there's anything we've learned from this, we can't trust women with $90 million. That's the lesson here.
Starting point is 01:02:35 And they shouldn't be directing. I very much agree with Maggie Gillen. I saw the, I saw a clip out of one of her interviews. I didn't watch the whole thing. But I feel like the clip out provided enough of the layers to get the entire context. there's some interview that she was doing where she was saying how they were addressing the fact that less than 10% of directors are women
Starting point is 01:02:58 and normally a female director will get, they don't get the big movies, they don't get the big budget ones, but whenever they do get a big budget movie, it's this whole fucking ordeal that it's a woman doing it. So there's a lot more like at stake when a woman's doing it.
Starting point is 01:03:14 And I'm like, it's so true. Then it does become, there is a part, There's a pocket of the conversation that does become about the fact that it was a woman who did this. And that is reciprocated on even our side because when I didn't like the marvels, it was sexist, not me not liking the movie. When I didn't like Agatha, it was because I'm an asshole, not because I didn't connect to the camp. Like, it is really tricky because when there is an association, you also get, like, lumped into a certain group. And that's really messy.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Like, I was watching the bride wanting to like it and didn't. and I was the whole time thinking like, man, I love Maggie Gyllenhaal, and I really wanted this to be for me, but like that's not going to change my experience of the film. I was right. I haven't seen it. I'd rather be wrong. I'm more surprised by your opinion of it.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I thought for sure. I was like, Koi convinced himself, this is great before he watched it. I love the trailer, and therefore I'll leave happy. Well, it's a good Rochech test.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I've had a different thing lately. I think it was brought on by the one-two punch of, uh, 28 years later of the bone temple. The Bride and Project Tale Mary all, I saw them all within like two months. And the Bone Temple was such a different film from 28 years later, but I loved it equally.
Starting point is 01:04:27 And that was really cool because I didn't think I'd like something more linear that was in the same world. That was still like that the Bone Temple was way more palatable than the first 28 years later. But I still liked it a lot. So I was like, oh, maybe it doesn't need to be this crazy, hard to palette thing for me to enjoy it. And then the bride came out.
Starting point is 01:04:46 And I was like, ooh, I don't find this palatable at all. And like, this isn't working for me. And then Project Tell Mary, I love. And I was like, well, shit, if I reviewed these all in the same strata, people wouldn't realize how much more I love. I love Bone Temple and Project Tell Mary. So I'm really working on, I want to stay someone that talks about art positively, but I need there to be constraints that people understand when I'm in love with something versus when I'm liking something. So like, my scale is changing in real time. And I think that's also my emotional connectivity to art post-Spitey.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Like, I've cried so much more in the last two months, and I've been so much more introspective, and I've been working out in a different way. And I'm also, like, way more aware of my mortality. So things are affecting me as a person that's affecting my view of art. So the bride might just be the first movie since Spidey Cat that I didn't connect to. So I'm like, oh, I need to reframe how I articulate that to others. I think I need to be more honest with myself and with art in order to connect to the people I want to connect to. That's a good point. It's good realization.
Starting point is 01:05:45 I'm glad you're learning and reflecting. That's really awesome. What this show is for. This is our episode, motherfuckers. Yep. We will get to all the super chats. We're going to close them out right when we're done with this next topic. I don't know if we have any or little or a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:59 We will, we're going to close them out. So if we want to get any questions in, we'll make sure we go through all them. Just get them all in right now in the next few minutes as we go through our very last subject here, which will be a short one. There's going to be a Marvel reunion at the Oscars, Coy. So apparently, they have a fish. announced a presenter lineup that's going to include R.D.J. Chris Evans. Gwyneth Paltrow. Who doesn't know she's in the Marvel University? Petra Pascal. And Channing Tatum, along with several others.
Starting point is 01:06:32 And Oscars-related coverage has said that it's going to tease a Marvel-themed segment for the superhero fans. Just like when Zach Snyder's Justice League, one audience cheer moment for their streaming movie at home. What the audience went. Me and my friend watched it on our couch and we screamed. What do you think? I was different. I love Snyder. It's such a weird one of all of Zach Steiner's movie.
Starting point is 01:07:01 The timing was crazy. What do you think about this promotional thing? Do you think they're using the Oscars for some type of hype beat? Do you feel like it's a smart cross-promotion? Do you feel like it's evidence at all that the brand now needs some major external event? to generate heat. What do you think? I think it is continuing the bold marketing that Doom's Day is doing. I have been the most vocal person, unfortunately, that is saying that the Doom thing worries them. And it's been exhausting because I want to be honest about my feelings
Starting point is 01:07:30 towards the Doom character. But every single other thing they've done for Doom's Day, I have been all about. Like, I think they're really killing it with marketing. I think they've gotten me more hype for that. There's one, the asterisk is huge, but there's only one thing that is keeping me not from full, oh my God, Doomsday. And there's a lot. And there's a lot of, And the rest is doing it for me. I love the vignettes. I love what they're doing with like little teases. So I think this is great marketing without giving us more footage.
Starting point is 01:07:53 I think it does all the things you want it to do, which is like, look at those people I like that I don't think of standing together, stand together, which is what you love about parts of the movie. And it also is reminding you that you're excited for Doomsday seven, no, nine months out while not giving any new footage necessarily. I think it's a really smart marketing move. I also think on the Oscar side, it could either be perfect or it could be Steve Boucher. me carrying a skateboard. Like, it's going to go one way together. Do you, do you think they'll have a trailer? I think they might show a little bit of footage, but I don't know if they need
Starting point is 01:08:23 to. Like, look at those people standing together. It's already exciting. Well, I think the lineup of who they've officially announced is smart, because they're all very famous people. Yes. Who would attend anyway? R.D.J. just won an Oscar. So that's a good, that's a good pull right there. But it's also
Starting point is 01:08:41 doing, like Robert Diamond Jr., our new villain, but also the man who started the MCU, sevens, uh, he's back in America, the lead of it. He's, he's returning.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Gwyneth Paltrow as the romantic side of it, Pedro Pascal, the new era and America's daddy. And Channing Tatum is the, the era for forgotten, broader multiverse side, you know. He's like,
Starting point is 01:09:01 oh, look how well this turned out because we undid a wrong. Like to me he feels like, oh, look at the multiverse working. Yeah, it's a good, it's a good lineup. And I don't know what impact it'll have, but I think this is the kind of thing that they create for a social
Starting point is 01:09:13 media thing. That's why I could be, how do you do fellow kids or could work? Yeah, not the televised event. I don't think I'll do much for the televised event. Unless I do a special promo or a trailer or something. Then it's going to be, I mean,
Starting point is 01:09:23 they're going to do that selfie like the old Oscars with Bradley Cooper and all those other people. People will be like, who owns that selfie? And it'll cause legislation. Yeah. But I think what's interesting about this setting is the Oscars should be our Super Bowl. Yeah. It should be a big thing.
Starting point is 01:09:38 And instead of putting a doomsday trailer at the Super Bowl, how great would it be it if it was at the Oscars? Yeah. What if we did things for promoting? movies that promoted movies. Like, what if we did things in-house? And this could be the start of that, because this Doomsday trailer is going to break the internet.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I would love, it's a little early, I think, to do a Doomsday trailer in March for December. But I think it'd be a great opportunity to give Oscars some views. We said there's like a giant, I mean, it's Avengers, so it's very different. Like, there's a real conversation happening around Doomsday, and it doesn't seem to stop, though,
Starting point is 01:10:09 you know? Yeah, that's what I mean. I think that's fucking amazing. Like, I don't really feel like there's a Daredevil season two coming out, which is kind of weird. We are watching that soon. That is on TV. It feels like it's this year. Before the month is over.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Yeah, it feels like it's this year, not this month. Watching that movie. That show. And Spider-Man, I'm like, I don't quite feel like it's coming. But Avengers, I'm like, there's an Avengers movie coming. I am aware of that. I'm pretty plugged into Spider-Man because I love those photos so much that I was like, oh, I'm actually going to look at paparazzi photos for the first time.
Starting point is 01:10:41 I usually avoid them. And every time there's been anything. that's like a rumor of a villain, I found myself feeling like 2014 again where I was like, they can do that in movies. Like I've gotten that same childlike hype. So I think Spider-Man marketing
Starting point is 01:10:53 is working for me, but I get that that's personal. I can see where your experience is also true. Yeah. Whereas Doomsday is my truth. Undeniable. Well, guys, are you excited for this? I'm so excited.
Starting point is 01:11:06 The award show is going to be a blast. We've got to cover it live? Every year. Please don't make me sick. I try, guys. Award show fans, all seven of you, I try every year. I will look up Conan's monologue and highlights of his jokes, and I will watch the award speeches I care to watch.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Our friend Jasmine is so excited. She decorated her entire house like Oscars and has a little filming area of giant red curtains, and I'll probably watch there so I can have production quality. What songs are performing? K-pop and Miles Canton. Oh, man, the K-pop one. That's a smart call. And the Miles Canton, the dude from the sinners.
Starting point is 01:11:43 the Oh yeah His tiny desk John did you see His tiny desk I have not yet Oh shit Oh dude
Starting point is 01:11:50 All right Miles can't tiny desk Yeah Sensational All right alright All right We should move on then Got to keep this train
Starting point is 01:11:58 O'Rollin There's gonna be a day Where Greg can't make the pod And we're gonna hire a producer To do John's job And we're just gonna do a music pod Yeah you and me It'll be 2035
Starting point is 01:12:07 But it's gonna be great You and be great guys Yes We'll have Alex Run the ones and two Everyone's going to love everything about that. And we're going to get so many super chats. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I'm going to close the super chats. Close out the super chats. It's a moment of truth. I understand the implications. And we are going to... What's like the... Do we have a quantity amount? Let's like a time this.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Just of minutes that we have left to live. All right, cool. Let's do it. I see the first one there. March 12, we got Mitch. Mitch. Mitch. We jump in.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Thank you, Mitch. Thank you, Mitch. Thank you, Mitch. Thank you, Mitch. All right, here we go. Let's get that super chat screen up here really quickly. All right. So what do we get?
Starting point is 01:12:50 What do we got? Oh, God, bitch. Off topic. But would you ever rewatch Breaking Bad on the channel to give your updated feelings and see how it resonates with you? Love you guys. Maybe down the road. I have been thinking about how to make the commentary stand out a little bit more because we eventually do have to evolve from not solely just reactions.
Starting point is 01:13:19 So we have to evolve from that. Watch our X-Men movies. Even today, I was thinking, like, maybe we should actually pause and talk. Oh. I don't think we do that. We did that for Superman. I remember enjoying that process, but it made the editing more difficult. Yeah, I was going to say the sync is impossible.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Yeah. So, like, we can't do a watch-alogue for Patreon. But, like, would we make it more engaging video, though, if we could just actually pause it. And like, sometimes like when we're watching stuff, I might see something and I'm like, oh, this is actually set up this thing in the future, but I don't want to like over talk a bunch of things. Yeah. So if we really get to that point, we're like a rewatch that is more informative or has more substance to that degree that we can do that where people will tune in, then that's definitely an option. I'm trying to get people to watch it here who have not seen Breaking Bad because I would love to see a reaction to Breaking Bad here. My favorite show of all time.
Starting point is 01:14:12 anything Breaking Bad, I'm all in. Whether we wait another 10 years and do like a 20th and every, like when it's been long enough that it is almost fresh or like a new set of eyes, I'd love that show. Yeah, it's my favorite show. I've also never seen Better Call Saul. So it'd be fun to do Better Call Saul into Breaking Bad to rewatch it from the context of,
Starting point is 01:14:28 because I've never seen Better Call Saul. That would be new. And then Breaking Bad would be like with the context of Saul. That'd be fun. But I haven't seen it. I'll compose a whole edit where we take the Breaking Bad flashbacks, Better Call Saul. And I'm going to do a timeline order version.
Starting point is 01:14:42 for us to watch. Tofer grace it up. Tofer grace, I mean, no, Tover Grace, it's trimmed down. Do the Buffy Angel thing. Give me the Snyder cut of breaking bat. But thanks for that. Super Chat, Mitch. Appreciate you. I see Ethan T's name. So it's better be a better man conversation
Starting point is 01:14:58 in here. Uh-oh, Ethan T. No better man this week. He's giving up hope. No, there we go. That's what I wanted. Anyway, no better man this week. Even though I'm still praying with all my heart, just wishing you guys.
Starting point is 01:15:12 health, wealth, and happiness. Appreciate that, Amigo. Very kind of you. And we wish it right back on you. Maybe we'll do better, man. Who knows? Mason, maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Let's see. Mason Korea is next. Appreciate you, chime in. John and Greg Podwen. Give me a link, I won't tell. John and Greg, oh, yeah, when's that pod here? Yeah, I get that thing released.
Starting point is 01:15:38 God damn. I'm pissed off. It's not relevant. to our lives anymore. It's got nothing to do with our waking reality any longer. This is me happy. This is me pissed. Greg's an actor. I have variation.
Starting point is 01:15:52 You need one of those t-shirts that's just all the same face of you with every different emotion listed underneath it in a grid. Yeah, maybe we should not go live on Fridays. Well, this is the time when everybody's live. Oh, yeah? Well, it's because all the news. We're summarizing the week.
Starting point is 01:16:08 You wait for a gathering of news. Yeah, like when else would we do it? Monday with the news is all the week old. That is true. Last week, one day at a time. Yeah, like, it'd be very hard to do on a Wednesday because that it's like half of last week's news and a little bit of this week's news. I mean, we're trying something now here where we're just trying to do an actual topic. You know, like the old days?
Starting point is 01:16:28 Yeah. I love it. I had fun. I had fun too. Yeah, that's what matters. That's what matters. That's something anyway. You got to prioritize profit.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Yeah, that's why it's part of it matters. Arca. Archa. Thank you for chiming in. Update from last stream. 22nd birthday went well. Awesome. Going to do something this weekend.
Starting point is 01:16:49 What's your guy's weekend plans? Anything for St. Patrick's Coy? It's Patty's Day this weekend? It is the 17th, good sir. It is mere days away. So St. Patty's Day this year is, I think, honestly, my first sober St. Patty since I was 13. I'm on a cut, and I am very aware that
Starting point is 01:17:12 Not only is every shot roughly 100 calories, but it actually slows your metabolism and changes the way that your digestive incense work for four days after. So it would be a very big calorie surplus, and it would slow my progress the following week. So unfortunately, I have chosen gains over glugs, and I am very sad about it, but the next day is my fiancé's birthday,
Starting point is 01:17:33 which I will also be sober for. But I'm going to try to find fun things to do that aren't going to honor my heritage. No glug, March, man. I've only drank once in the calendar year, 2026. What was the occasion? I think I wanted to prove to myself I could drink without crying. Like, Spidey Cat had passed and I was like, oh, okay, I was going to say.
Starting point is 01:17:57 No, no, I just, I hadn't drank and Spidey Cat had passed and I was like, if I let this control me in the other way, then it might become a problem if I just drink one. Like, I was afraid of like keeping it all together and then one day drinking me like, I was like, do we need to have like a beer in hand for you for every reaction? action where we need you to cry. Yeah, dude. It might help. But no, I drank to prove I had control.
Starting point is 01:18:17 It was more of like a proof of concept for myself. Cool. I get it. Yeah, like I just had to know. I get you. I actually do get it. Suddenly six months in if I have a drink and I'm like, and then my wedding. When I did my cut last year, the first two months of it, I was like high every day just
Starting point is 01:18:33 to prove I could have self-control. Really? Yeah, because now, now that's gone. Like, no, now when I, I don't smoke that often. so now when I do smoke, I'm like, fucking give you everything I can eat right now. I get super hungry, and I have a hard time not caving it. The challenge
Starting point is 01:18:48 itself is fun, but it's been a really like, this cut's been the hardest cut of my life. So that's because when I stopped being hot, and I was like, okay, now I'm not going to smoke weed. And then I gave up, but then it was like fucking easy to commit to. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking so simple.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Because this, I mean, I'm down 12 pounds, which I'm proud of, and I'm up two pounds of muscle, which is impossible to two while on a cut. But it's been harder than anything I've ever done physically. and I haven't had the progress that I would. Like the other hard stuff happened faster because I'm 37. So it's been really hard mentally to be like, I'm three months in and this is where we are.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Like that's been a challenge. So I don't want to add the deterrent of drinking. It does slow it down, man. Yeah. It does. It's fucking weird because I'm like, I wanted another run last night. I'm like, as long as I could run.
Starting point is 01:19:28 I've never been into running the way I'm into running now. And I'm like, I'm faster and I can go longer. But, you know, I've been maintaining like the same weight and I have drank more. Like I'm usually having like a, drink a few drinks. I'm gonna... I'm gonna...
Starting point is 01:19:42 It does affect you, yeah. Well, Bachelor Party and I'm gonna drink, but I also think that I'll make it more special. Like, yeah. If I don't drink till Bachelor Party, then it's not just a weekend of drinking. It's like, oh, an occasion. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:51 And then I'll have to recover from that and the wedding I'm gonna drink. But this weekend, I've got a big old run plan for Saturday. I'm gonna clean my house. I'm approaching middle age. Where are you doing this weekend, John? I just discovered St. Patrick's Day is coming up.
Starting point is 01:20:08 I forgot the Oscars. on Sunday. So maybe something to do with those things. I don't know. I might try and go catch House of Kong. Nice. Yeah. The cool guerrillas immersive art exhibit.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Otherwise, I will figure it out as I go. In true John fashion. He'll be their last, but he'll be their last at the end too. We got a cool gaming event thing tomorrow, Andrew, Aaron. John Materan and myself.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Yeah. That'll be something neat to look out for on the socials. You guys are on assignment. What are you doing, G? No, we are there for the assignment of fun. What are you doing? What's your waking, Greg? I gotta go to a birthday party for some kid I hate.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I wish I had a camera for you. I hate that kid. Three's the worst age anyway. Gosh, she's not going to. even remember and I have I have to work on um I have to work on the channel quite a bit actually there's a lot of a lot of things I got to work on that's going to take a lot of time so I got to do that before the party a little bit after and then most of my Sunday would be committed to that I live stream every Saturday now for the same reason we do Friday for like the catch-up of the news week and
Starting point is 01:21:34 it really changes like weekends because I'm like I can't drink Friday because I'm live-stream Saturday and then I end up working all day Saturdays then Sundays just like getting stuff done. Like, I don't really have weekends anymore because of the choice to do Saturday, but it's like, oh, yes, the weekend and at St. Paddy's Day. Yep, we're older now. We're killing it.
Starting point is 01:21:52 To life's credit, a lot of the time I will find myself, like, I have a big work weekend, all this stuff that's not filming. And then I might go out on a Saturday. And I'm like, ah, fuck it. Let's have a few drinks and smoke some weeks that I still end up indulging. Yeah. But then the Sunday is like, no, fucking punish yourself in the recovery. Sweat it out.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Don't eat for 16 hours. You gotta indulge sometimes. Once in a while. But 22. In moderation. 22 is none of these things. 22, you should live because your body can recover. Pour yourself out.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Yeah. Make choices. Be a prostitute. Get pregnant. Have uncomfortable conversations with your family. Wear a condom or make him either way, but have fun. Yeah, do something. Everyone gets a condo.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Yeah. Get into a hit and run. Anyway, so what's the next question? receive a recipient are they running a trash what's happening anyway next question all the above all right here we go thank you ark
Starting point is 01:22:47 uh sebastian yuns let's go love you guys per usual who friday thank you sebastian thank you sebastian boston you're freaking i love the zeal chat if we did a live event
Starting point is 01:23:01 in burbank california would you guys come to it would you fly to berbbing type yes or no in the chat we should ask that question every week And then never do one. No, no, we just do it. Every week. Is it going to get enough?
Starting point is 01:23:13 We got to build. We got to condition everyone here to be like, I do want to see them live. Yeah. I do want to go there. Live events are my jam. You need to start every show with like an improv round of suggestions. Yeah. Give us a location.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Epstein Island. What's something you were reading recently? The Epstein files. What's one thing you hate? Messy redactions. Anyway, thank you, Sebastian. Appreciate you. Diego Guevada.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Appreciate you. Hey, man. These DDBA teasers have been fucking insane. Don't want to watch any more. We're going to watch a show soon. I just finish my rewatch and born again. Rewatch Homework. That's a good show.
Starting point is 01:24:03 It's a good show. I think I liked it more than the rest of us on the first walk, but on the second watch, I'm like, this is fantastic. I liked it more on my rewatch. Yeah? Okay, good. Because I remember you being a little, you were a little reluctant. I think it works better as a binge, personally.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Interesting, okay. I do think it works better as one hole versus a week to week. Okay. I mean, a lot of the flaws that I found with it still remain, but I definitely, I get its intentions much more on a rewatch. And I do think season two will probably be really great. It is sad how there is, I don't feel the hype for it. It's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Outside of Diego Guevarez, Super Chad, I don't feel the hype for it. What's interesting is we talked about marketing earlier, but I don't know what the solutions are, but I'm not in marketing. But I'm very aware that they have been marketing it. I just don't feel it. Well, the lack of hype, because it was Dared of a Born Again season one was hype.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Yeah. That was really hyped up. And I think the mixed response on it is very, very clear. As much as some people don't like hearing that or don't want to contend with that and be like, you don't fucking know comics. That that is so true by the fact that season two definitely does not have that same level of anticipation.
Starting point is 01:25:13 or hype because I think there was so much desire for this is this is the sad reality I think a lot of people have to contend with is the sub a big subjective but you can also see that it's definitely the conversation that's happened is there was so much pining and fighting to get daredevil back but with daredevil back that's also let's get Wilson Fisk back let's get kingpin back and it's not just we fought for that then we got daredevil board again like Charlie Cox's cameo and Spider-Mineaua home was great. Wilson Fiske, on the other hand, that's when I think the erosion started to happen, you know, Hawkeye.
Starting point is 01:25:53 That's why Hawkeye's so low on my TV list is because I think it really hurt the multiverse. It really hurt Wilson Fiss, which in turn hurts Daredevil. Yeah. And then I think, and then, of course, Echo as well affected. And yeah, there is something when I watch this new season, I'm like, he's doing all the Wilson Fist stuff, but I do think there's a way you have to. to literally frame Kingpin to make, to give the aura and the imposingness and the stature that I think the Netflix shows knew how to really do. The way you shoot Wilson Fiske specifically is how you do it.
Starting point is 01:26:28 And I do think he gets stronger in the last couple of episodes, which ironically enough is Justin Aaron. Yeah, we have me hope for the season two. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I think he does get like much stronger. And I like the ending of how I like how ugly the world is of Born Again. Like it's, it's super scuzzy. and the fact that he's like controlling the police and everything, I like where it ends a lot. Yeah. So yeah, I know some people
Starting point is 01:26:52 like fucking hate that show and I like them more on the rewatcher. I'm excited for the Punisher show too or the special presentation. Yeah. Which is also this year. Punisher show is going to be so good. Red.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Let me ask you some red. My son. I really hope he says he has to tell me something in Odyssey. I really do. Got to get my punisher special. Let's tell all his name in that movie Let me tell you about this horse
Starting point is 01:27:18 Let me tell you about these trojans Let me tell you some I face this Weird nose Odysseus Can't wait It's psychops Let me ask you some Must is John Berthal's acting In the headshake
Starting point is 01:27:31 Yeah But I love him No no no no He's one of those actors Like he does John Berndthal But he does it so well Like I love the John Bernthal flavor Enough that I'm okay with it
Starting point is 01:27:41 Yeah no no He's always But he's such a lot of like a bro in interviews, man. Oh, do you be such a vibe? Yeah, I, you know, I really find myself to be that cool of a guy. I've talked to him in person like three times and every time I'm like, why are you the most likable?
Starting point is 01:27:55 But then on camera, you're like, I'm a fucking killer. I'm an actor. I'm down here. Because it's like one thing and the opposite and John Berthel. But on I'm interview and I'm like an Los Angeles sounding guy. I'm also a great listener. I'm really good. I'm pensive.
Starting point is 01:28:08 I focus. I'm with you kid. But now I'm acting. It's a real missed opportunity. he didn't call his podcast, let me ask you something. Oh my God! You're right! Real ones is great and all, but
Starting point is 01:28:21 just saying. Anyway, has watched the whole show, reads the comics, all that stuff. He has read the comics. That part was true. I fell off the show.
Starting point is 01:28:31 I'm sorry. Daredevil for me! I would say, the thing is, I know Invincibles. It's because you have a, sometimes in aversion to animation, properties in terms of
Starting point is 01:28:44 I just don't connect the medium I connect differently so that that's what a lot of it comes down to now as a fan of both I'm already like invincible is always great it's gonna be great I don't have to worry about it's fucking invincible even when it has like a slump of a little episode here there it's always fucking great
Starting point is 01:29:00 Daredevil Bourne again on the other hand I'm more excited for because this is something where I think they have to do some correction you know yeah and I think them being in control I'm more intrigued by what a whole show of theirs looks like. I would love to personal, like, I know a lot of people, I mean,
Starting point is 01:29:17 you've talked with them, you've interviewed Charlie Cox and Vincent O'Frio. I would love to, like, interview Charlie Cox and then do a deep dive on it. I feel like no one asks about the Catholic side. And I would have, like, I feel like I'd have so many questions about the Catholic side of Matt Murdoch.
Starting point is 01:29:32 As a devout Catholic guy, I had a lot of questions about how he handled it and the guilt. I feel like people shy away from the questions, and I'm like, it's such a big part of Matt Murdoch. Yeah. I just wouldn't have it,
Starting point is 01:29:41 like, I ask you all the time, like, what's that mean? Like, I would, it was such a, my thing was coming from a place of, like, the, the physicality. And I really love talking to him because I know a stunt double. So it was really cool to hear, like, when they would change off and, like, how he handled that aspect of dare double. Because usually actors aren't as involved as Charlie Cox's. Yeah. But it was cool talking to Donofrey about turtles.
Starting point is 01:30:00 He didn't know Teenage Vin'Nin' Turtles was the same ooze. I got to tell Kingpin that he's candid with the turtles. That's fucking cool. And I would like to talk to him about them both. I would be, I want to ask about how they developed those. voice for both of those characters. It was really interesting looking back on that interview because I was talking to them right as they had just canceled the original version and they were going back to film the one that came
Starting point is 01:30:21 out. So I was talking to them when they knew what the show was going to be, but also were just leaving the old one. So they were like dancing two worlds of not answering. And Marvel was physically at the panel on the side of the stage and I'd never had that happened before. Yeah. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:30:35 It was intense. It was an hour of being like Feigeed. Good interview. He wasn't there. Good interviews. Good interviews. Thanks to the question. Appreciate you, George.
Starting point is 01:30:42 All righty. Look, we got Captain Fernandez. Chiming in the discourse, quote, unquote, surrounding the various Oscars nominees has convinced me they need to air them much earlier. It's been way too toxic this year. Thanks, Captain Fernandez, for chiming in here. And what exactly do you think they mean by air them earlier?
Starting point is 01:31:08 Just how late in the year it is. There's been a longer campaign season. because you put out the Oscar movies like November, December. So this is like five months now of time. I think the part of the thing is people have had time to get bored and look for stuff. What is your favorite of the Oscar nominated Best Pictures? Oh, one battle after another. And then Train Dreams and then Sinners are all movies that I'd be happy if they won.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Train Dreams is like my sleeper. It broke me. Like that's one of the most emotionally connected I've felt to a film. And then one battle after another. So one battle after another felt like if I stayed a, Boston college anarchist liberal violent person that I wanted to become and usually you're not very good at it. And that to me felt like Leo. Leo felt like what fumbling anarchist I could have been. And then train dreams feels like my heritage. Like my great grandfather was a lineman up the Appalachian Mountains. And like it was crazy to watch train dreams because I felt like Joel Adderton was playing someone my grandfather would know. So I really connected to my ancestry through train dreams and I really connected to my other future through. One battle.
Starting point is 01:32:12 I have been itching and rewatch one battle. John and Andrew just had a reaction go up this morning. Oh. And you could tell how strong audiences are in this Oscar season. But coming in is a 10 of 10. Oh, no. Really? No.
Starting point is 01:32:26 Wow. This is the people are like, why are you taking so long? Because I knew it would be a 10 of 10. That's crazy. I was trying to do it closer to the Oscars because maybe they're going to be a hype. Sinners is like one of the most timeless movies we've had up for Best Picture. I think that movie's going to stand the test of time.
Starting point is 01:32:41 In 10 years, we'll still talk about sinners. But I just was so connected to those two that if any three of those win, I'm happy. How about you? This very well could just be because it's the most recent one I saw. I didn't have much anticipation for Marty Supreme. I'm not generally not, out of everything I said about Timothy Shalame. I'm generally not in love with his work. I've always liked his work, but I've never been like over the moon.
Starting point is 01:33:09 He's been one of those guys who's like, why is he so, you know, the next Decapeo or wherever the fuck yet i i never quite connected with him then again there's so many movies that's his i haven't seen that one where he's like a drug addict of steve carrell wherever the one that's called beautiful boy beautiful boy i think that yeah you might be right about that uh so yeah i i've never fully loved it but it was it blew me away by how fucking like effective it was and that has been like my one of my favorite it's like my no it's still anything but i would say that was like my favorite of the oscar movies and it is my favorite of the favorite performance of of the year personally okay that being said michael b jordan winning i like yes that is
Starting point is 01:33:47 like it was it's a bit of a toss up for me if michael bjordan wins i'm like yeah fucking go for it yeah more than happy if you want i'd be thrilled if he wins he absolutely it's an interesting conversation though but michael bick jordan because he's nominated for two people right right and he's incredible of both the conversation is like is one of those performances as strong as timothy shallamaze or is it the the fact that they're putting in two, you know, uh, it shouldn't matter that we're counting two different characters though, you know, I found,
Starting point is 01:34:16 do you know what I found smoke and stack more memorable than Marty Supreme and he's the title character. Oh, really? Okay. So for me, when I think of sinners, I'd think of how impressive it was that smoke and stack had different goals, mannerisms, arcs, perspectives. And so those two performances I find more memorable than Marty Supreme who is the entirety of that film. Like, Marty Supreme is the whole movie to the point. Like, Marty Supreme is the whole movie to the point where he is making the wrong decision every time and everyone is suffering for it. I love that.
Starting point is 01:34:44 And that was hard for me to connect to because I've, that's what I love it. He's so fucking, he's the worst person. Like, yeah, like, I would, I would want to hurt him. Yeah. And smoke and stack are in a horrible situation doing mostly the right thing, even in the wrong situation. Like, they're in the situation that they couldn't get out of. Marty put himself in situations that made his life worse and ruined everyone's life around
Starting point is 01:35:08 him. So I get that's the point of the movie. I just didn't connect to that as a person that wants to, like, cause harm to those people. Like, I think we need to hurt those people. I, I, you're, yes, 100%. I have that weird, I'm that audience member that, like, oh, man, if you get me to weirdly root for a guy I really shouldn't be rooting for, like, at all, like, almost no redeeming qualities. Like, smoke and stack have some redeeming qualities. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:35 That's the beautiful thing about their situation. Even like when they shoot a guy in the ass to make a point, but they're like, well, here's some money. Yeah. Like they have red. They're still doing this because you can feel that this is for like their community here. You know, so there is a redemption quality. Whereas like Marty Supreme weaponizes it being Jewish to try to do this better. It was not doing anything for like a Jewish community or something like that.
Starting point is 01:35:56 I think it's the funniest performance. I think Marty Supreme's hilarious. I really, but after all the interviews I saw. Not in a bad way. I think it's hilarious like on purpose. Okay. Out of all the interviews I would see of him and hearing the. hype. The last thing I expected to do was only see Marty and not see Timothy Chalame. And because of that,
Starting point is 01:36:13 I was like, oh, wow, I'm fucking like, you were in. Yeah, I was mesmerized. It was the only time I've swept up in like, I only see a character. And I saw two different, like, I didn't see Michael Jordan. I saw two different people and didn't see Michael B. That is, that should not be discounted. So to me, that was like fucking them passing the cigarette to each other. And you feel like there's, there are two different people in the room. And it's so easy to acclimate to like so quick. And they cut to one of them 20 minutes in the movie and I know which one like at no point was I like was at smoker stack like I was in and then I love the ending I love the use of post credit format for one of them without getting away and I also think the film is one of those is one of those is one of those movies that will be more reverent to as time goes on definitely and it's already reverend oh it's the most it's undoubtedly like in terms of like what's a film that's important yeah sinners is one of those like of what it's done for Ryan Coogler what he did with the deal culturally speaking the fact that that it's a box office hit, the horror genre. Like on almost every level, I feel like sinners,
Starting point is 01:37:11 I would, sinners is not my favorite movie the year yet. I feel like it, one battle after another feel, it looks like it's going to win. One battle is my favorite movie and I'm still rooting for sinners if that is the, that's the thing. It's like it's not my favorite movie of the year.
Starting point is 01:37:25 It's one of my favorites, but it's not my top 10 as well. It's not my personal top. But I am actually hoping that one wins over the others. I feel like it is the most impactful. and significant one of them all. It's what's tricky about like people ask what my, and I'm going to make a video one day.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Like I have 25 movies that are five star, right? Like there are, in my opinion, 25 movies that I've given that perfect impossible five star two. I don't think they're perfect, but they're the closest to perfection's impossible. But there are movies that are four and a half star movies for me that are my favorite over those. Like a Knight's Tale is higher than some of my five star film
Starting point is 01:37:58 and it's four and a half because of my connection and my journey with it. And that's the same with Oscars. Like if Sinners gets best picture over one battle, even though it's lower on my list, I still go like, well, best picture. Yeah, yeah. So the layers of sinners are unmatched.
Starting point is 01:38:11 The fact that the fact that you can watch it without even under, without even like mining a lot of the whatever cultural nuances, like the amount of times I've heard videos, FD Signifier has talked so much about sinners that it has like so many layers because I'm not a black person. I haven't had the, you know, black culture experiences. I don't know if you know this. I'm not black.
Starting point is 01:38:32 We're learning something about Greg today. Let me explain some stuff to you. Oh. But the way how it, when people dissect it and I hear like like a commentator, like FD signifier, break it down like, oh shit, I never knew that. Like I feel like I literally got like an enhanced educational experience from it. And I fucking loved it right out of the gate without knowing all these that really understanding all these additional layers.
Starting point is 01:38:58 Yeah. So that's that's the kind of film that I really do. Actually, might be one. I'm talking about, like, maybe it is more like my top to you. I definitely want to rewatch it because I got it on 4K and I want to watch it like pristine. And I remember loving it when we saw it. But I also like, I think one battle and other is just emotional connection is making it hard for me to separate my view versus the movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Because I just connected so much with that movie's everything. Like one battle just felt so personal. Like one of those movies where I was like, how did they make something that is so my shit? Yeah. And same with train dreams, which I didn't expect. to be riveted by. It was like a Netflix movie. It got acquired by Netflix, but I wasn't expected to turn on Netflix and be like, this will change me. I'll say it. I saw the trailer. I haven't been compelled to watch it. Dude, it's so good. But it looks like a movie I'm going to have to like,
Starting point is 01:39:44 all right. Let's get in serious mode. I've seen it three times. I loved it. It's like reading a book that will change your life. And that is in both good and bad format. Like you're going to have to digest it, but it's sensational. It is unanimously the movie this season that people have gone out of their way to be like, I threw this on. And yeah, that's sort of like, I felt like I had to be in the mood for it. But like, it is. It is, it is. really impacted. I never touched my phone. I think about it
Starting point is 01:40:06 probably once a week. It changed my perspective of how I navigate time and it's just so beautiful. It's special. It feels like a poem. It feels like the first time you discover Kerouac or Hemingway.
Starting point is 01:40:17 It's so unique in its voice. It's so good. Traindry. Who's Carowack and Hemingway? They're a talk show host. They'll return in Avengers Doomsday. You'll find out with the new Avengers. You'll meet them in Doomsday.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Carowack is a Pokemon. Okay, sorry, let's move. All right. Thank you, Captain Fernandez. Do we have enough for clipouts? Have we done our job, prop? We've done our job.
Starting point is 01:40:43 Now let's breeze through these. All right. Gillian Guerrero. Oscar clips or Jules. You got your choice in how you address Julian here. All right, goodings day to you all. Always enjoy listening to the live stream before work. A little random.
Starting point is 01:40:58 But have you guys seen the show Everwood? I recently checked it out and loved it all. The Love from Canada isn't Everwood the one with the freaking small soldiers Small soldiers kid yeah and the guy who replaced in the substitute sequel oh wow have you seen the substitute I have not seen any substitute we need to bring back substitute teacher movies What is the substance is a boy? There is a boy good that's the subgenre on missing most coach movies and substitute teacher movies I had a lot of coach movies aren't my childhood there was so much yeah yeah coach Carter was the type of Where's the coach movies and where's the substitute teacher?
Starting point is 01:41:35 We are Marshall. What has happened? The lack of education and the lack of education movies. And the lack of coaching. Half Nelson. Yeah. That's what. That's a really dark movie.
Starting point is 01:41:46 It really is. I love that movie. I almost mentioned my interview and I was like, I'm not going to take this distinction. I don't want to bring up. Lars and the real girl was as close as I got. Yeah. I've never seen everyone. I haven't either.
Starting point is 01:41:59 Sorry. I just remember it being, oh, the kid from small soldiers. And Gostling plays a teacher in Project Hell Mary, if that helps. That's cool. We'll have to check it out. Stephen McQueen was... Stephen, there's a... Okay, not Steve McQueen, who's in Vampire Diaries.
Starting point is 01:42:15 I briefly knew him for like the littlest bit, and I knew him at the time when he booked the show Everwood. That's awesome. And that's my story. Of Everwood. That's the most I know about Everwood is I once knew a guy who was a guest star for a couple of episodes on the show Everwood. Guy with an unfortunately confusingly distinct.
Starting point is 01:42:33 to name with not only a classic actor but a current director to contend with it. Yeah, that ends doing some of him. A lot of Steve. Yeah. Yeah. Not Steve McQueen, the director. Yeah, Steve McQueen. Yeah. Stephen McQueen. Stephen McQueen. Uh, very important announcement. It right now, today
Starting point is 01:42:52 is Bucky Barnes' birthday. No way. Bucky Barnes, moderator. Thank him. Thank you, Bucky. Thanks for catching. Happy birthday. Thank you, Bucky for holding down the fort. You love Bucky out here. Not getting enough flowers last. So you get all the flowers today. And Julian, thank you for the super chat.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Jules, appreciate you. All righty, here we go. Deadshot always hits his mark. Hey guys, watch your X-Men Origins reaction. And it was a fun vid. Movie is bad, but I can see it as a very terrible false memory that weapon X-proc-like in the comics. Love that take.
Starting point is 01:43:30 What good canon. Also, that is the last video I checked the comments on because I had no more. No more. That was my breaking point. Was people being mad at us for not liking a bad movie? It was the craziest comment boards I've ever read. Like, it was just actually insane. The movie is objectively not good.
Starting point is 01:43:47 People think I like everything. I was talking about a movie that no one likes and apparently the 500 people that do were real mad. It's the 15 year rule. It's an underlooked gem now. Now it's a cult classic. Every movie gets a fan base at the end of the day. I'm happy that when you do a video that has a little bit. 40,000 views.
Starting point is 01:44:03 You're bound to get some people that actually like it. You guys don't get this. And I don't. And I was nice to break. This movie that even the stars of the film have disowned. Everyone remade movies to avoid that one existing. They've canonically called it, but it's good. It is.
Starting point is 01:44:22 But X-Men Origins, we watched the Wolverine Extended Cut yesterday, and we were discussing how it's a fascinating trilogy of Wolverine. films because there's never been a trilogy where each one has gotten phenomenally better than the other one yeah because usually they don't start at a one yeah so it's incredible that like the next one is like a solid like b and then logan's i mean from memory incredible logan's one of the greatest comic movies of all time i cannot wait to rewatch it but the wolverine is so much better than the origins and then logan's so much better than the wolver yeah because yeah usually don't get a trilogy would you start there it's great rare opportunity to fail upward yeah and yeah i'm really excited for logan
Starting point is 01:45:01 All right. Thank you. Deadshot. Appreciate that. Let's do Brock 52. Happy Friday. It's my daughter Olivia's eighth birthday. And fun fact, daughter Olivia is named after Greg's wife Olivia. Oh, happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Was she like, Daddy, buy me an ice cream. It's only $2. And he was like, no, I want to give the real rejects these $2 today instead. But Daddy, it's the last. two dollars I have. Honey, leave me alone. This is the only joy I get. I thought I bring you joy, Dad. Olivia, please.
Starting point is 01:45:41 This is how I get my dopamine. I am deficient. This will last longer than the ice cream. I'll read this back later. We can replay this. You can't replay ice cream. It's all about you today. Okay. I need some attention. I need some appreciation.
Starting point is 01:46:00 All we ever do is focus on you for your birthday. The rest of us here, here too. Without me, you don't have a birthday. Yeah. So, happy birthday, Olivia. Happy birthday, Olivia. Oh, you enjoyed it. Happy eighth birthday. We love you. All right.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Let's do one more stream. Let's super chat and let's check on the stream labs. Hey, Alan Smithy. Hey, buddy. Always here. Love Alan Smithy. What's up, my reject homies? Happy Friday. Happy Friday to you. Curious. Do you guys ever react to
Starting point is 01:46:31 films or shows on physical media? Does your, like, does your studio have a disc player or are you guys mostly streaming at this point? 99.9% of the time we be streaming, man. Yeah. We'd be streaming. We don't have an actual, like, Blu-ray plugged in or something like that. We don't have a device. I'm the one with all the weird disc drives for if we need to, like, source something.
Starting point is 01:46:55 But even then, we're not watching from discs. We're ripping from discs. I'm back to discs at home, though. I mean, I've always been in physical media, but if I have it, I'm no longer streaming movies because I did a, I got a 4K player for Christmas and I did a side by side of picture quality with like my fiber internet watching and then the 4K. And it is cartoonishly better on disc because it's 4,000 lines of resolution. So I've actively been getting out of the habit of the ease of like, click. And I like supporting physical media. Did you bring Anya to look at the side by sides?
Starting point is 01:47:28 I did. Be like, do you see? Look at the. this spec on his face here. Do you see his pores? The pores are so... I don't see a damn dip.
Starting point is 01:47:36 No, there's a difference. And the audio is crazy different. So I set up my audio. I have kept speakers and I have two full three foot cap speakers, two bookshelf speakers that are nice, two thirds that are also beautiful. I have a sound system and I got a microphone and I set
Starting point is 01:47:51 up my sound systems. The acoustics are for the room. So I programmed my speakers to be the right acoustics for the physical room. And I had Anya stand in the spot where I bike perfected it in the middle of the like the vectors and had her listen to the difference of 4K and she could hear the difference if not see but i did set up two TVs one top of the other like a crazy person she said you get here to get out of the conversation she definitely was like you spent six hours seven
Starting point is 01:48:15 oh wow my mind is so blown i need to go take a now i'm gonna shut the i'm gonna shut and lock the door for a bit but that's not personal yeah i'm just reflecting on this experience i did it with the batman it was awesome to watch the batman in two formats i'd be down pretty good yeah let's do this. All right. Here we go. Let's I love the streamlapse. They hack the system. Do a switchy. Yeah. Yeah. You got to respect to hacking into the system. We love cunning fans here at the
Starting point is 01:48:40 Reject Nation. Dan V-900! Let's do it. I am very conflicted over the lantern's trailer. It's what they said it would be, but it's not what I want for a green lantern show. Hard traveling heroes with
Starting point is 01:48:56 Ollie and Hal isn't the same as Hal training John. I'm expecting how to die, which would be a dot, dot, dot, second comment. Waste of the character. I'm tired of waiting until the finale to have someone in their suit, which is also what I'm expecting. I do think the show will be good on its own merits, but it's clear Kyle Rayner is getting skipped.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Feels more elseworld to me. What, say, the. Do you think Hal Jordan will die? If he does, it'll be parallax. It's one of the most famous things Hell Jordan does is die. You don't, do you not feel like we should deserve,
Starting point is 01:49:39 we deserve? Do you not feel like we should, we should get a proper Hal Jordan? I think it, I assume it won't be this season. I think it'll have him later. I think people are assuming it's this season. I think we'll get them a little longer personally.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Dead cops. More dead cops. But like, I don't know. I'm not. not a, I'm not a giant, uh, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not the biggest, like devout Hal Jordan guy, like I know a lot of people are. So I don't want to disrespect Hal Jordan fans. I just never connected to the character. He's such a golden age. Um, he, Kyle Rainer is more interesting to me. He's my
Starting point is 01:50:19 favorite lantern. I think John Stewart's more interesting than Hal Jordan. I also from the trailer thought we got more Hal Jordan than I was expecting. It seems more like a two-handed than a John Stewart show with Hal Jordan. I think like howl Jordan had more lines in the trailer. To me, it felt like a duo show. I didn't get the Hal Jordan being... I feel like Kyle Chandler was the lead. Yeah. So I don't get that approach that a lot of people are like, well, I was, you know, Hal Jordan not deleted. To me, it felt like he was the lead.
Starting point is 01:50:43 Oh. So that's a thing that people said. I thought for sure he's the lead of the show. He definitely looks like he's the lead. To me, that's the vibe I got, but that's the internet. The internet's complaining that Hal Jordan is being... I mean, if maybe I'm misinterpreting but it sounds like he's saying the same. But yeah, I'm not as beholden to
Starting point is 01:50:59 Hal Jordan, so I don't... I'm more excited in the story they decided to tell because of the team behind it. Like, I'm a bigger fan of Tom King, Damon, and Chris Mundy than I am of Hal Jordan. So I'm more excited to see whatever story they want to tell than I'm attached to the character of Hell Jordan. Because Kyle Rainer is my lantern and John Stewart's a little bit more interesting.
Starting point is 01:51:19 That said, I will say I worry that John Stewart is going to get Kyle Raynard and then we won't get Kyle Rayner. Like he seems to be a little bit more of like cop on the edge. Like John Stewart seems to be the young, novice to the rigs it's interesting they're subverting
Starting point is 01:51:37 the rigs mertoff thing where it feels like how Jordan's more the cop on the edge as the older cop and then the younger cop is going to be a little bit more by the book
Starting point is 01:51:44 but John Stewart is so different than Kyle Rainer he's not as fun he's more regimented he follows rules he's part of a system he's military I'm curious to see
Starting point is 01:51:52 that side of him but this is a two minute trailer so I didn't see anything that shows me that isn't the case I just hope they don't make him amalgamation my favorite lanterns.
Starting point is 01:52:03 That's fair. We'll see, man. Sorry, Dan, V-9-100 that you're not digging the trailer, but who knows, maybe by the time it comes out, you'll actually enjoy it. Maybe, man. Well, who knows? But you know who else might know something?
Starting point is 01:52:15 Anonymous! Appreciate you chiming in. Anonymous says, can't wait for the reaction to the Man on Fire TV show. I just discovered this was a thing yesterday. Maybe we'll do it. Maybe we won't. Yaya's in it.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Oh. I do love the guy. That was an excellent. That was an excellent beat. Yeah, no, he's great, man. I have yet to see a project with Yaya that isn't elevated by Yaya. So I'm excited. And Man on Fire is a great movie, so.
Starting point is 01:52:46 I don't know if they're all, I know there was like a Man on Fire movie, and then there was a Denzel movie with Man on Fire. And then now there's a TV show. I don't know if they're all like the same thing. One Canon. Yeah, I don't know if there's, like, I don't know if the Denzel movie is a remake of that one Like the Equalizer? We thought it was a remake and I was like, what?
Starting point is 01:53:05 Yeah, yeah. I don't know what's what, but yeah, yeah, Abdul Mateem, man. He is the shit. Yeah. I'm excited for, I'm excited to just getting that chance. Absolutely, bud. To have a show dropped for one weekend and then people not talk about it again. I'm excited for people to talk about it for 40 or 8 to 72 hours.
Starting point is 01:53:18 Yeah. All right, we got a couple from Stephen here. Stefan, thank you for chiming in. First up, which do you think is worse? X-Men Origins Wolverine or Batman and Robin. X-Men Origins Wolverine. X-Men origin's Wolverine. For me, I like the two of them.
Starting point is 01:53:32 of them and Dark Phoenix is worse than the two of them put together. Respectfully disagree. I only seen it one time, but I don't know where I'll stand until we get there, but off of feeling off of the one time I've seen it. I think I prefer Dark Phoenix over than both. I remember liking Dark Phoenix more than either, but we will see soon. We haven't watched it recently. We'll be excited to find out what your last stand will be on that.
Starting point is 01:54:02 Will we be united? X2. All right, here we go. Stephen goes on to say when, went to see the bride on Monday evening, and there was no one else in the screen. Yet, Scream 7, which was a pile of shit,
Starting point is 01:54:18 is higher in box office. Why do you think this is? Jesse Buckley knocked out of the park in this? I mean, it's pretty obvious. Scream 7 is a beloved franchise with a very big band base around it, who wanted to, see the movie and they're capitalizing on nostalgia in the marketing, whereas the bride looks
Starting point is 01:54:38 like alternate take on something. So I feel like you're going away from what's familiar. Also, I didn't love either, but quality does not equal quantity of seats filled. 28 years later, the Bowen Temple did not do well, and I loved it. It did so not well that I don't know if we're still getting a third one. And that's one of my favorite movies in years. So quality is relative, but also doesn't mean people are going to see it. They should just do a streaming movie, then. Yeah. That's what we want.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Yeah. I'm down. Finally get that return of Mr. Murphy. We should put it on the PlayStation network. Sony Streamer, the PlayStation Network.
Starting point is 01:55:14 Do you remember when they tried to put shows on PlayStation? Yeah. Like powers, like a Brian Michael Bender show is a PlayStation exclusive. Oh, yeah. They had their own little network
Starting point is 01:55:20 for like two years. They should bring it back. Bring it back. Bring it back. Do it. All right. Thank you, Stephen. Who do we got next?
Starting point is 01:55:27 We got another Dan V. Here we, G. Last. I'd say Fackham Hall Fackham Hall sorry was the most
Starting point is 01:55:37 underrated comedy the trailer promoted it as a Downton Abbey parody but it's just really funny all the praise
Starting point is 01:55:44 this year for Nirvana of the band the show the movie is deserved it's a great back to
Starting point is 01:55:49 the future film what? I don't know anything about that movie but it sounds like a fun time what is
Starting point is 01:55:55 the follow-up questions he has let us see as Dan V goes on to say speaking of marketing and release dates.
Starting point is 01:56:03 Have your thoughts changed on Supergirl's release date? Masters of the Universe, Scary Movie 6, Disclosure Day, and Toy Story 5 all came out weekly before it. Come out weekly before it, and Scary Movie just moved up a week. The weekend after is Minions 3, followed by Moana and Honesty. This summer's so crazy. I don't know where you'd move it. Like, it's just stacked this summer. Like, you just listed a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 01:56:28 I don't know where it would go. Well, I think, hopefully. the idea there was a time in the summer where everyone didn't go like there's too many yeah we used to enjoy there being a lot of movies yeah we used to enjoy that there's a why in my day three releases was a good thing a big movie every weekend and and now it's that's where theaters need to go back to is where there's a big movie every weekend for a certain amount of time and hopefully that is more of the case versus we need more people in theaters yeah yeah exactly because then like sometimes ah master the union
Starting point is 01:57:01 universe is a new movie. It's two bit. It is sold out. Oh, but I haven't seen Disclosure Day yet. Let me, I don't know the release aid orders these things. Let's go watch Disclosure Day then instead. Or it's 12 o'clock and oh, there's not a showing of that till two. I'll go see this. Yeah, there used to be a time like that. So we need to go back to hope. That's what theaters need to kind of go back to. I used to call a phone number and have a robot tell me when the times were. And then I'd get the newspaper and go to the place and be like it's this time. And that's how I'd pick my movie. Oh, before reserve seating. Yeah, you'd get the early. You'd look got a piece of paper and it'd tell you.
Starting point is 01:57:32 Yeah. Why in my day. Used to wait in line for hours for some movies. I worked at a theater when we didn't have reserve seating and it was crazy to like engineer the line. Like I worked two towers and like getting people into those seats was such a, because those are passionate fans. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:46 That was crazy. That was crazy. No reserve seats. 620 seat cinemas. Wow. Yeah. We had our two big ones. One in 14.
Starting point is 01:57:53 We're 620 seats. So you'd have 1,200 people waiting in two lines. I waited like 12 hours in line for that movie and I dozed off. Oh no. Definitely fell asleep during the end scenes. Oh, that's heartbreaking. All those endings. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 01:58:09 We got Stephen. One last one in here from the stream labs. Thoughts on Arnold Schwarzenegger and talks to return to Predator, a Commando sequel, and a Conan sequel, all of the above. Ever since he became governor,
Starting point is 01:58:23 he just hasn't been on top. I was thinking about the Conan sequel and how he would have been in the exact right age when he was governor. Yeah. Like an aged, but still, like, physically vital and, like, ready. Conan is canon, and that would have been cool. But, like, that was a little bit of cool.
Starting point is 01:58:41 He hasn't had a hit, right, since he stopped being governor, like a true, a true hit. I watch videos about the animals live in his house. He had, uh, he's had, like, good interviews. He did Fubar, which had a really good season one, but season two got canceled. Yeah. I'm not saying he's had, like, all his movies have been bad. I'm talking about like a hit. Because he set out to not be a great actor.
Starting point is 01:59:04 He set out to be a celebrity. And he was for a decade. Yeah, he was like the biggest star. But Stallone's had hits more recently, I think. And Expendables he was in, but I don't think of it as an Arnie movie. Not at all. That's an Arny cameo. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:59:19 Like I can't think of where Stallone had the Expendables franchise. And like Stallone has had. Yeah, yeah. Like not even the escape. I mean, it was Escape Plan even here? They had like DVD sequels. I don't know if they... Yeah, there's a lot of like Walmarty Arnold's hits.
Starting point is 01:59:34 I mean... Terminator Dark Fate is what comes up as the most recent thing he was involved with that like made big money, but that's obviously not like a... Yeah, hit among the fan base and people in general. And box office-wise. I'm very curious how any of that does.
Starting point is 01:59:50 I think Predator could be exciting because of how Predator ends and, you know, the way that Tractenberg is setting up this universe. That'd be a cool way to do the... Like, that character I can see his age. but like commando would have to be the creed route where it's like a passing of the torch Conan is a character like Odin at in points of the comics like you can do like an Odin Conan
Starting point is 02:00:09 it would have been better in the governor era um but i'm curious i think i think out of the three of these the only one that would actually be successful is predator i don't think a commander sequel would be big uh i just it's it's it's not it's like it's it's it wouldn't be big like it's big it's big for arnold fans right which is but these other movies like and Conan is an IP that they try to make big and like it doesn't ever quite get to the level that you think it would be at. Predator is the one that I feel like would be the most exciting one. Especially right now with her Predator is culturally. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:43 I think it would actually be excited for him to be in a Predator movie. Yeah, but I think a Commando sequel is like, why who gives a shit. And I think Conan's sequel, I think that's long gone at this point. I think Conan would be the most interesting, but it's weird. I feel like Conan would be the most interesting prospect because you could do character but you could also do the action and we have a moment in time where like that kind of
Starting point is 02:01:06 thing is actually sort of back but you would need to be able to do it low budget enough and that's the problem. If you had Arnold you would want to be high budget and I think the resurgence of these kinds of sword sandals fantasies doesn't allow for that big of the book. I would say that a character study on Conan
Starting point is 02:01:23 will go as well as a lanterns trailer character Yeah. And then character studies are very important and yet. Conan is righteous, man. Conan is so awesome. All right. Anyway, March 13. Sorry, that's today.
Starting point is 02:01:37 Marchapalooza. That's your name. Sorry, this is the last stream level. Hey, Greg and Coy. Will you be hosting a panel at WonderCon this year? If not any other appearances you hope to do soon. Thanks. No, we will not be at WonderCon.
Starting point is 02:01:50 Do you guys want us do a live event in Burbank? If you want us to do a live event in Burbank, maybe one day we will. There's a good Chipotle And I always thought We'd be a great Chipotle host Yes We just get everybody together Talk about burritos
Starting point is 02:02:02 Movie conversations are banned Dude who doesn't love a burrito I love burritos We can watch John react to burritos Yeah John eat that burrito I eat that second burrito John's gonna die
Starting point is 02:02:12 You had a third burrito Give me all the hot sauce Let's go John ate 10,000 calories in one hour I'm bringing back my coffee reactions We're gonna watch John Eat the calories Greg and I can't Right now
Starting point is 02:02:22 Yeah why not I'm so jealous of John's Britos. I think the Burbank area would be like a perfect. It's so central and it'd be awesome to see people. We can all see a movie. Any other live appearances? Nope.
Starting point is 02:02:34 Nope. Not for me. Are you going to Comic Con? I'm not going to WonderCon because I, Comic Con. The big one? Oh yeah. I never missed July Comic Con.
Starting point is 02:02:42 But that's so far away. I don't have any panels booked. But because of CinemaCon and because D.C.'s coming back soon. Don't don't have dates for you that I can publish. can announce yet, but DC's coming back soon. Because of those two things, I don't want to do a bunch of cons and fall behind on work. Because I keep doing that every year. I'll like do every con that I want to.
Starting point is 02:03:04 And then all of a sudden, I'm like, I've done 82 days in a row. So I'm trying to pace myself for just the right things. So CinemaCon, yes. Comic Con and July, yes, the rest are probably not. Out of respect for rejects. Yeah, that's why? Because they've got to, well, you guys have to juggle my schedule. Every time I do a thing, I've got to think of everyone.
Starting point is 02:03:22 And I'm not being selfish this year. Sure. I have to think of Alex and her three-year-old and me texting her at midnight and saying like, oh no. To hell with that three-year-old. Yeah. Doesn't want to go to the birth character, all right. Wait. So yeah, when I text it three, yeah, it's a perfect time.
Starting point is 02:03:45 All right. Well, we appreciate all of you guys. Anyway, let's jump back over into the super chats and catch up with Mayank Rana Navarre. Thank you for chiming in. Hey, Greg Coy and John, thanks for saying hi. Given the murder mystery element of lanterns, I theorize the killer will be Blackhand.
Starting point is 02:04:07 What do you all think? I think that's very viable. I think it's really fun if they did Sinestro as like a mislead and everyone assumes Sinestro is the big bad, but then it's like a more niche character. Black Hand's more niche than Sinestro. And I think the murder mystery element allows
Starting point is 02:04:22 for a different tone than people might expect for a cosmic story, but should expect for a, cop story. I really think it's cool to lean into the other side of the lantern core. So I think a murder mystery for the core is really exciting. And then it can go bigger and bigger. And maybe it does turn out to be someone like Black Hand that gets cosmic. But I think it's perfect. If that's the case. Do you think Landon should coexist with the Green Lantern movies? Like they should do movies as well. Oh yeah. I think that if you're going to have the cosmic level budget, I think you'd need to be a movie.
Starting point is 02:04:50 And I think that this can set that up. But I think it'd be a cool bridge to do. Lantern's introduce, get to know the characters, have the amount of time to really care about. them, then put them in Superman and then movies. Like, it'll be a great trajectory of, like, investment in the individual investment in them in this setting and then... Sweet sauce. That's what I would do, and it seems like that's what they're doing. Love to hear it.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Thank you, Myna, for always being here. How, yeah. Andres, Andres, thank you for chiming in. Have you seen good luck, have fun, don't die. And if not, will there be a reaction? On my end, maybe. Coy, you signed it. I liked it, didn't love it.
Starting point is 02:05:27 I loved what it was trying to say. There were a few moments that were a little, tone deaf's too strong of a word, but in that direction where it feels like they needed consultants more of the generation that is actually going to be dealing with it. It's kind of like our government. Like everyone that's running it is 80 and about to die.
Starting point is 02:05:49 There needs to be people that are actually going to deal with the ramifications of AI in 10 years having some of the perspective on its current state. Like I like that it tried to navigate some of the benefits and it tried to navigate a realistic side and made AI the villain that was a whiny little bitch because AI is for cowards. But it also didn't allow for nuance because it had such a strong thing to say that it doesn't feel like it acknowledges some of the benefit. And I think that there is a little bit of a older generation like a man yells at cloud energy that is fair, but also could have been subdued a little to make it more less preachy. It doesn't quite get preachy, but it approaches preachy, and I think that's my biggest flaw with it.
Starting point is 02:06:31 I noticed that enough times, but I'm really glad it exists. It's my number seven of the year so far. Like, I did enjoy it, but that is a big enough flaw that I can't give it all of my flowers. God, I saw this cloud earlier today. Just yelling at it. Fucking, just like, you piece of shit.
Starting point is 02:06:47 So incensed. I wonder all the time if they named the place we do online stores the cloud to be cheeky about yelling at technology evolving. I think about that all the time. Like, do we call it the cloud? It's a reasonable thing to think about all the time. Yeah, I like a lot. I think that's a good thing to consume your mind with and...
Starting point is 02:07:04 That's my conspiracy. Maybe one day he solved the answer. Us naming things just spite millennials. That's what I think about oft. That's my contribution to this conversation. All right, Captain Fernandez is back. Hot take, the BAFTAFurr clinched MBJ's Oscar. No.
Starting point is 02:07:26 Oh, you mean... The conversation around? it. Clinched as in like solidified it? Or sabotaged? What is the word of clenched use for? I think clinched is like cemented.
Starting point is 02:07:39 Yeah. The public outrage clinched. That's why Captain Fernandez doesn't have an image in their profile. I don't think it did anything for the actual Oscar. I think it just, I mean, it did cause conversation,
Starting point is 02:07:54 but I don't think it was a benefit. I don't know. I I is the theory that like oh because of the like it might have been chalemay but now it's not or like to like but not the actual backdrop awards but the incident is the thing that may have like oh we got it like do right by him I'm not sure racism benefits black people. I know a whole bunch of people who would disagree. I'm sure you do. They have very successful channels. My friends. It's a lot of people that run a lot of channels. I yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't personally agree, but I think I see where you're coming from. I mean, I could imagine a world where some voters are like, ah, yeah, that was really ugly. We should give it to him.
Starting point is 02:08:38 But I don't think you vote from like a place of like, man, I feel like he shouldn't have dealt with that. I hope that doesn't, I hope he seems poised to win. And I hope if he does win that this does not become a conversation. Yeah, like to me, there's no part of me if I was an Oscar voter, which I'm not, that I would see a moment like that happened and it would affect my experience of his art. Like, I would never have. a moment that happened on the press
Starting point is 02:09:01 tour be like, that made the performance better. And it should be about the performance. But I don't know if that is... Is it ever really about the performance? But that's what you were saying earlier. That was our whole conversation with drama and gossip. Well, on the Baptist situation, it feels like it kind of, at least to me,
Starting point is 02:09:15 felt like it took all the focus and conversation away from all the movie stuff, whereas like even the Timothy Shalameh controversy or the Dan Merle mentioned the Jesse Buckley controversy about hating cats, those things feel more tied into like the speaker go fuck herself. Yes.
Starting point is 02:09:32 I'm glad the pride flops. A lot of this is ridiculous, John, but no. But we didn't bring up cats out of respect. Jesse Buckley should be crucified. Yeah, she should be in public. I feel these words. But those. That scene in Catwoman, the scene of Catwoman and Batman?
Starting point is 02:09:47 Yeah. The thing with. John finish your thought. It felt like it felt like. Yeah, like John while he's talking. The thing with Michael B. Jordan and Delroylando felt like it pierced out of all this. into reality in a harshly uncomfortable way, in a way that, yeah,
Starting point is 02:10:03 doesn't even make me think of the movies anymore, you know? So I feel like, yeah, I can't really see that as, yeah, like a very strong thing to attach to the movie considerations themselves, I suppose. I just want everyone to know, I do not accept Jesse Buckley's apology. You heard it here, folks.
Starting point is 02:10:25 And I hope it's sabotaged her Oscar win. Josh Horace ended her Oscar King. I hope that one she wins That everyone Someone shouts Keep my cat's name All right Here we go
Starting point is 02:10:39 Someone comes up with her And hits her with a cat Oh no Oh no Swing a dead cat in here Without hitting an Oscar I am chef Thank you for chiming in
Starting point is 02:10:49 Both parents collecting comics And now finally in my late 20s collecting comics I get super excited For all comics stuff but the fans kill my enthusiasm. How do you guys not let that exhaust you? I'm so exhausted.
Starting point is 02:11:05 You know it doesn't. Never. I'm exhausted right now. I'll be exhausted later. I'll be exhausted tomorrow. This is a choice I made. It could be way worse. I could be a coal miner.
Starting point is 02:11:15 I could be doing jobs that are so much more grueling physically. But emotionally, I've lost so much joy by choosing to turn my joy into money. Foolish, but I'd do it again. it's a way better life than other lives, but it definitely is exhausting. Like, it's part of the job. I think I get paid to tolerate stupidity. Like, I'm not paid to,
Starting point is 02:11:39 I don't get paid to read the comics. I don't get paid to, uh, like learn quality language. I don't get paid to be a better conversationalist. I think those are benefits to the job. But I think the money that I'm paid is to tolerate cunts. Ha ha.
Starting point is 02:11:55 Yes. Woo! 204. I will be cutting out a word in the editor as soon as this processes. Sorry, John and Greg. It's all good. I didn't think of a better word. It's all good news now.
Starting point is 02:12:11 Well, you guys get the Snyder cut. I'm sorry. Oh, sure. You're right. That's right. Yeah, we've waited the first four minutes in there. Only you know the truth, live audience. It's like that Ron Funch's audio.
Starting point is 02:12:26 It's how do you manage all that stuff? I don't. I'm tired all the time. Do you have anything to add to Koi's, you know, I think Greg Campbell's a lot better than I do. I think you have more ebbs and flows. Like your peaks are higher than mine. Like when you're stressed, it feels like a bigger, like,
Starting point is 02:12:45 and then, but you, you are maintenance better. I'm, I'm going to take in a, I don't know. I become, I'm good at shutting down. Like, it's not good for when you have to, like, do a video. reaction where it's all about like getting emotionally in tune with yourself and what you're experiencing. But I tend to put up a wall and I become apathetic towards things after a while. That's my my thing. It's like, this is fucking ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:13:13 I haven't found apathy yet. Like, I think that's then a really interesting thing as I get more emotionally available is like I never was closed off. But then like I'm worried that the depths I'm able to reach now or more. So it's going to like affect me more because I'm definitely, I'm definitely more affected than I'm comfortable with. Like I never feel like I'm able to. totally separate. I understand. Well, I think online feeds a certain type of emotional breeding, right?
Starting point is 02:13:37 And I think if we, a lot of times it's like if I just only hear like passing opinions, I don't really care or get affected that much. But then if I do get involved in like watching enough videos and stuff, suddenly I'm like feeling the rage that people are projecting. Yeah. And I'm like, now I got a fucking opinion. I'm like,
Starting point is 02:13:54 really? It's like fucking Ezra Miller. Like when that Ezra Miller shit was going down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. like I thought for a second I actually gave a shit. And then I took a step back. I fucking doing videos. And I was like, I really don't care about this actually.
Starting point is 02:14:09 Yeah. So, yeah, it was like that kind of thing. The high mind is crazy. Like how you suddenly think you're part of something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But a lot of people capitalize on that and they make a lot of money doing it.
Starting point is 02:14:20 They get a lot of great views. And this is a big part of internet culture. And hey, if you don't mind doing that, like, I'm just fucking all, all, I'll tell you drama channels and whatever. whatever. And I sometimes watch these drama channels. I can enjoy them now without getting emotionally involved. I'm on the other side. I think vultures have no place. So if you're going to be a drama channel and you're going to profit off like Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, then you have a different, you're not on a level of society, I think, is human. I like watching every video
Starting point is 02:14:48 that's been coming out for the past few months. It's like, Joe Rogan finally realized Trump's aville. I just the people that make money off. How long has Joe Rogan realized this? It's been like, like six months of these videos, guys. He's still realizing it. He's still just realizing. He's just realizing over and over again. Do you know what that word means? Constant state of realization. We'd love to see it, Joe.
Starting point is 02:15:10 All right. I am. Chef is back. Ah! Thank you for chiming in. Rewatching X-Men with you guys. Who would you guys love the villain to be? Off topic. Have you guys met? Have you guys seen Marvel Rivals or any of the character designs?
Starting point is 02:15:26 Koi and I are planning on playing Marvel Rivals. Yeah, I've never ever encountered Marvel rivals. I haven't seen a trailer. I've seen some promo art, but I don't know gameplay. I'm so excited. So we're going to do that. And by planning on playing, I mean, recording planning on playing too. You guys will experience us flailing, or at least me flailing.
Starting point is 02:15:44 I'm very excited about it. You guys got a magic marker so I could cross out the word air one here. Oh, wow. I don't want to seem like I don't relate with the audience. I mean, let's, uh, yeah. Is that an $82 bag of popcorn in there? I was going to say, how many authentic gold flakes are in there? Man, take out a mortgage to get that bag of popcorn?
Starting point is 02:16:01 Crazy. Ever had golden flake popcorn? Oh my God, it's crazy. Greg's still making payments. All of your super chats went to that bag of popcorn. Next time I'm going to try the platinum dusted ones. This whole bag is huge and it's only 120 calories. That's I'm jealous.
Starting point is 02:16:15 That's why. And only $140. We got to go to Airwant after this. You go to my Air One app. I got two things. Every order is the same two things. The tofu? Because it's a high calorie, low fat, I mean, low calorie, high protein.
Starting point is 02:16:33 And this popcorn. That's all I get from marijuana. They're buffalo. They're right. If you like buffalo, it's real good. It tastes almost like chicken since you're not a meat, man. The only thing I can't justify the price on is fucking this popcorn and tofu, because it is like, this is a really unreasonably priced store. But for the prestige of the quality of these two items.
Starting point is 02:16:53 The question is rivals and there was something before that. Oh, yes. it was. We're watching the X-Men with you guys. Who would you guys love the villain to be? Oh,
Starting point is 02:17:02 I want Sentinels, man. I feel like we've had like Trask and we've had Sentinels in the danger. Like, we've never had sentinels. So I think setting up Magneto
Starting point is 02:17:12 as a big bad for a long time, I think doing a couple incidental villains, maybe like a juggernaut, but I really want to see sentinels. And Mr. Sinister's been, Mr. Sinister's been teased long enough.
Starting point is 02:17:22 Sinister's the one I definitely want. It's time. I also think Sinister works for this generation. Like I think Sinister's really applicable. And I think like a fun, sassy, like, there's so much, I think it'd be really fun to cast someone like unexpected that's very good with physical comedy, like Ryan Gawson or something. Yeah. Right? Ryan Gosselin is Mr. Sinister. It'd be dope.
Starting point is 02:17:39 Ryan Gosson's so funny. One of the best. I think it was hard to interview. Him and Adam Driver are the two best, um, SNL. S&L host. Agreed for different reasons. Adam Driver's like fully committed, never breaks. And Ryan Gosson's the one. Only breaks. It is fully committed at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. They're the two favorite celebrity hosts. The interview was hard because I wanted to like, yes, and, but I knew I only had seven minutes. And I was originally given eight and then the seven got cut down like six and a half. And I was like, I prepped 20 minutes. And I was like, no time to riff with the greatest.
Starting point is 02:18:07 That was, that was tricky. But yeah, I think Mr. Sinister and Sentryl's. I agree. Thank you, I am chef. Nick Alexander, Nick can't say no. Thank you for chiming in. Thank you, Koi. People say they want different.
Starting point is 02:18:21 We are getting Clayface horror and lanterns is grounded. Yet people complain it's different. I am pumped for the variety of DC projects. I can't talk about DC positively or I'm a paid chill and I can't talk about Disney positively or I'm a shill and I'm really curious when the checks arrive. But I do know. You don't get checks from DC?
Starting point is 02:18:43 I do, I do. Coy, I warned you. But they're exploiting you. All this work you're doing. You have workers rights, Coy. You don't have to work for the privilege. Right now we haven't started filming season two. I am not getting checks as we speak.
Starting point is 02:18:59 I don't have any. I'm not beholden right now, guys. I rejects. I'm not beholden. I have a not exclusive so I can talk. But it's funny because it's a really tricky thing being to be upset because it's not their take. Being excited as a comic fan that does it professionally is even harder. But being comic fan that gets paid and does it elsewhere, it's really hard for people to hear objectivity.
Starting point is 02:19:20 I'm so passionately excited about the different flavors that DC is doing that Marvel does so well when they're on the right path. I just think DC is in a better spot right now because of they just started fresh and I think that's a beautiful thing. So I'm more excited about DC doing things like this. I'm totally in agreeance with you. But it's really hard because the internet is,
Starting point is 02:19:41 the word fan comes from fanatic. People are fanatical about the way they see a thing. So they're going to be, you're not going to read people yelling loudly how much they're excited for something because they're doing that with their friends. The people that are yelling loudly probably don't have a lot.
Starting point is 02:19:56 So they have more time. I think people want DC to be Marvel already. Right. And that's so crazy. Like, I just can't. Sorry, guys.
Starting point is 02:20:07 You just had to restart DC like five times. And now it seems like we're finally committed to a path. So let's see how it goes. It's been three properties, guys. We got a path. I think the fact that we have a lantern show and then he's going to be a man of tomorrow
Starting point is 02:20:20 is a sign of the path. Yeah. Like I said, I think that leads to a lantern's movie. I think that's where you do the cosmic and the budget allows for it. Yeah. We can get around around his back.
Starting point is 02:20:28 Oh, totally. Totally. That's what we need. And he's got paid for that lawsuit, man. That's the path. Here, here. Maximum litigation. All right. Thank you, Nick.
Starting point is 02:20:39 Expert criminal! Can you guys please make a gaming channel? Marvel rivals. John and I just finished playing Mortal Kombat last night. At least half of it, yeah. No, we finished the game. Is that the whole game? I thought there's, yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:56 I guess it is the whole game. we had a whole experience where we were like I thought there was more but there was the credits and everything yeah I know but then there's that whole
Starting point is 02:21:03 second chapter no the second chapter is the next game is this the next game I'm so confused with how they make games now they just do two at a time I feel more comfortable
Starting point is 02:21:11 about being on the gaming channel because of this interaction I don't know I don't understand how this works it took John and I like four months to beat more of all that I feel better and better
Starting point is 02:21:23 about being on this gaming leg now because I am not good at it No, yeah, it was like, yeah, it was an interesting experience. But now we should start releasing that at the end of the month, actually. Wolverine's out of my birthday. Wolverine game on PS5, September 15th. You're working your birthday then. Oh, here we are.
Starting point is 02:21:41 Guys, if you wanted to see me drunk on a stream. You just dunked your own grave. Get some Dunkin' Donuts, some Wolverine, and some whiskey. What's Charlie saying? Expert, thank you. Expert. Charlie's Flicks, fix says, ready for interview season two? but coy hair looks great.
Starting point is 02:21:58 Greg equals Zaddy. See these two popcorns. Oh, is your nuts. Oh! Wait, let me zoom it on. For life for Charlie. Let me zoom in on them. Let's zoom it.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Oh, there it is. Oh, suckled. Let's get that. Look at that night. Look at those white morsels on his tongue. Let me, let me zoom even more. And man. It's so hard to zoom when the frame.
Starting point is 02:22:24 And they're airwant nuts. So you know they're frame. NRANNNNNU nuts There we go Organic Yeah It's just made with organic popcorn That's right
Starting point is 02:22:34 Organically popped nuts Virgin coconut oil Oh virgin oil Virgin oil Virgin oil on his popped nuts Look at that Yeah There is
Starting point is 02:22:43 Virgin like John Matern Version like John Maturin Version like John McTherom When he's not around Hold on let's get a little bit closer On your mouth There we go There it is
Starting point is 02:22:50 I want to fill the frame Hang on let me get one more pass It's really hard to do this Without cropping the entire frame So bear with me. Nuts, nuts, nuts, nuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:00 There it is. Right in the bag. All nut March. Greg nutted too hard. Way too hard. Sometimes you nutter hard tears happen. You get Catholic guilt kicks. Ask Charlie Cox about it.
Starting point is 02:23:21 When Daredevil masturbates, does you feel bad? He has a lot of sex before marriage. It's not very Catholic. Adeline of them. Not to mention all the violence. It's not to mention all the pain and the beatings. I also wonder what that would look like for him. What?
Starting point is 02:23:39 Like the sound of it. What do you mean? Like when he hears with echo, so if he's wanking and there's like the, you know, his own little, like the sloshiness. Do you think he can,
Starting point is 02:23:49 if he uses lub or not, I don't know. But like I imagine it'd be like, I create some like sonar type of calling to other blind people with superpowers. Yeah. Which the M.C. Like when Super.
Starting point is 02:23:58 man died and then... And everyone heard it? The beginning is actually Jesus League. That's how Dared double wags. It's just like going around. That's what his billy club sounds like.
Starting point is 02:24:08 Everyone. Air one. All right. Here we go. Thank you. Charlie. O.G. Carlos, Greg,
Starting point is 02:24:15 would you consider going on the escape podcast? Absolutely. I would love to go on the Escape Pod. I'd also like to go on R.T. TV, John. I'd also like to go on the RTTV podcast. Where's our TTV? I'd like to go on their podcast. I was just listening to it.
Starting point is 02:24:35 They're really good. And we love the escape pod boys. They're good folk. I heard Quito's in there all the time. They're my, like, they're my favorite TikTok energy. Like,
Starting point is 02:24:44 they've figured out how to make it actually authentically nerdy while being like that super kinetic edit. And like, they've done a really good job making something that feels clipable and authentic. I'm very impressed with them. Hell yeah. Here. It'd be a very close up shot
Starting point is 02:25:04 If he does I do have another chip too Another one No What are you doing? What are you eating? Might be all the acidic stuff Lemon
Starting point is 02:25:13 Fuck Apple cider vinegar Airone popcorn Yeah Teeth chip That's crazy I'm concerned I'm brushing my teeth like crazy
Starting point is 02:25:24 all the time now Probably making my gums worse Do you have like a fluoride toothpaste Something to add some like Strength to you or maybe like Boka toothpaste Something you need some strength You need some like calcium
Starting point is 02:25:33 them enhanced something. I think it happened the same day. Fuck. Yeah. Wait, you can't, you can't have milk. No, oh, you can't have milk because it's the dairy thing, not because of the animal thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:45 Guys, what's going to fix Greg's tea? Jen Maddle, thank you for chiming in. Sending support. Love the discussions. Are you concerned? Are you concerned that we haven't seen the teaser at least? Are you concerned that we haven't seen a teaser at least for Spider-Man yet? Also, what is your take in general on trailers?
Starting point is 02:26:06 Are they bad, good, or too much? Well, when we used to do the thing where we picked questions to shape our conversation, this would have been real good for all the conversations we had about trailers and the Spider-Man experience. So it would have been pretty apropos. I don't know how to check back an hour ago. I was going to say, I'll scrub back and just replay the audio. I think they do need to make trailers different than they... every era has a certain formula for trailers i've noticed like yeah like the trailers tend to adopt an era
Starting point is 02:26:39 of trailer style in a world oh remember that era's dope i love that era um and i guess like i think that's why i love the street fire trailer because it just feels something like different and weird uh it like the street fighter has like a visceralness to it and by all accounts i thought the bride actually had a pretty good first trailer, even though I was like, this looks pretentious and awful, but maybe good, who knows? So that was like my experience with it, but I don't know what trailers,
Starting point is 02:27:14 trailers don't feel as exciting as they once were. I don't feel like people are as excited by trailers as they once were either. I just, there's something, there is something up with trailers now. I can't quite put my finger on it. I guess people also don't trust trailers as much anymore, too. I think it's, I mean, people get a,
Starting point is 02:27:31 upset when I blame the people, but I think there's some user error in, like, we're so over-stimulated. I don't know if we can feel the way we felt about trailers, because I don't think we feel. We're getting so much stimulation all the time. No, definitely. I knew you're right, though. And I think trailers have also been formatted now to fit like this. Right. So it's like, watch it like this.
Starting point is 02:27:52 It has to be as big as a movie theater screen emotionally, and you're constantly stimulated because you're always on a screen. Like, going to watch a trailer used to be, when we started, trailers were an event. of themselves and you dedicate that time to it but then that would be like enough to live off of for a week and now it's like oh what's the next trailer what's the next thing and we're constantly
Starting point is 02:28:11 being bombarded with like five second TikTok amount of like it's just so much it's like Vegas all the time we're playing the slots and we expected to feel good it's like trailer language has seeped into so much of the trailer trailers have to be an experience weapons trailer was an experience weapons did very
Starting point is 02:28:27 very very well and it's not because there was a huge fucking celebrity in it Zach Krieger's name is not that huge. But it had some damn good trailers. And of course, like word of mouth is good and all that. But it had an awesome opening weekend because the trailer was fucking effective. Yeah. 20 years later, ultimately didn't make that much money.
Starting point is 02:28:45 Trailer's incredible. But opening weekend it did because that trailer was the shit. Yeah, the boots. Trailers have to be an experience. And when I say this, it's like, I'm literally mean this dimension, you know, for like TikTok and Instagram. Once they started composing trailers to fit for that. Then it just like people forget the trailers do have to be an experience. They do have to be some type of.
Starting point is 02:29:08 Yeah, experience is to work for it. I think, uh, I think there are the occasional ones, but we're so bombarded with the next thing. We forget. Like the supernova trailer for Project Hell Mary was like a like an experience. But then we people are on the next thing and the next thing. And I think that that that this press tour with this movie, because we're in the middle of it right now is it feels like a big event. And that's rare now. like doing all the press events and stops,
Starting point is 02:29:33 playing it early, letting the embargo drop early. Like, all of this feels like it's an authentic hype. Like, it's a build. But most movies feel like it's like, and it's out. Like the trailer happens in the movie.
Starting point is 02:29:42 It doesn't feel like there's the journey it used to. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, though. I don't know what they need to do. What are some good trailers? Sinners was a great trailer. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:53 Cunters was a very effective trailer too. 20 years later, sinners, weapons. Comment the best trailers in recent memory, gang. Like the Odyssey looks great I feel like Nolan has a trailer style now I actually haven't watched the Odyssey trailer I think it looks great It's not to me the most memorable trailer
Starting point is 02:30:13 Okay I've just been like I'm gonna see the movie I don't need It's one of the but Nolan doesn't need a great trailer Right I think the Odyssey is most people's number one of the year Because it's no one in the Odyssey Yeah I think we should bring back the style of trailer They used to cut in like the 50s and 60s Where they don't show you any footage And the whole trailer is trying to convince you not to see the movie
Starting point is 02:30:30 because it's too much. There's like a whole thing where it's like if you, we're giving out, I saw a trailer once and the whole gag was, we're giving out custom insurance policies in the lobby because there are 10 moments of extreme terror in this movie and subjecting yourself to even one
Starting point is 02:30:46 could result in loss of sanity and blah, blah, blah. So like find the nurse in the law. It was the silliest thing. But it made for memorable trailers. So that's a trend we should bring back. Infinity War Hulk moment. I think more fake stuff for trailers.
Starting point is 02:31:00 I think Michael will be huge. Oh, that movie's going to be giant. Even though I don't think the trailers are particularly great, I think it'll be huge. Yeah, I don't think they needed to be. Yeah. I think it's like The Odyssey or Spider-Man or, like, there are certain things that are going to be huge culturally. And that's why I haven't, I haven't needed to see The Odyssey. I will be watching the Spider-Man trailer the moment drops.
Starting point is 02:31:20 But like my number one and number two are Spider-Man in the Odyssey, and I don't think I'll watch The Odyssey before I see the movie. I feel the same way about Street Fire, Quay. I don't need to see any more footage. Yeah, I came in today. I was like, Craig, you know, there's cheese. No, I'm good. I'm good, man.
Starting point is 02:31:34 I'm ready. I'm ready, man. Street Fighter coming soon. We should get Lewis to hand on here. Did that be? Cool, young! Easy to do. I can.
Starting point is 02:31:46 He's the best. Louis is awesome. I love how he was taking shots at Andrew Schultz. Oh, yeah, he did a Brandon's show. It's funny because I've seen Lewis like three times in the last couple of butts. I love that they pushed because it also shows confidence in how good Mortal Kombat 2 is, but now it made it a two-year. It's funny because when the 90s movies came out there around the same time.
Starting point is 02:32:05 Yeah, that's true. 30 years later, the revenge tour. Do you want me to ask Lewis? Come on? Yeah. That'd be fun. Be like, dude, I see you at my gym sometimes, but I never want to say hi. And there's also another celebrity that I see a bedroom all the time that I never say.
Starting point is 02:32:18 Lewis and I are real friends. You can tell him, you know, like, we actually know, you could like. Him and his girlfriend work out there. Yeah, Lewis is great. I don't want to say anything. Okay. I'll invite him on, and then you can be like, hey, I go see the gym sometimes. Who's the guy on the charity show of Colin Farrell?
Starting point is 02:32:35 Shea Wiggum. She's Wiggum as an actor. He's great. Is he the one mission possible? Yeah. Yeah. It works out of my gym. I love Shay Wiggum.
Starting point is 02:32:43 I'm like, no, not going to say anything. Love Shay Wiggum. I've seen B. I'm like, mm-hmm. For some reason, I have all those Mr. B seems the weirdest. The idea of him at a gym. I didn't see him working out. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 02:32:57 I'm like, maybe he's just there to be seen. I could see that for him. Hey, leave your life, Mr. Beast. I don't need to say anything. All right. Dude, I'm most done with my popcorn, so we can go now. Yeah, definitely, Shia Wiggum. Yeah, I love Shere Wiggum.
Starting point is 02:33:11 Yeah. He's one of those character directors. I'll see everything he does. He's related to Blair from freaking Ted. He's like her uncle or dad or something. Yeah. His movie with John Bernthel, small engine repairs, really slept on. It was a play.
Starting point is 02:33:23 Oh, yeah. Amazing. Fun fact. We got any more? Nope, we're ready to go. Is that it? Shee Wiggum! We did it?
Starting point is 02:33:29 We did our topic. Shea Wiggum. Thank you, guys. Guys, we're in the console a little way your favorite Shay Wiggum movie is. Yeah, let's know about to Shay Wiggum.
Starting point is 02:33:38 There's a lot of you guys are here every week, and I appreciate you. We all do. Alex, you worked your ass off today. In office, only off camera rejects, sweating it out over here,
Starting point is 02:33:50 hustling. She's got the remote control that's controlling my body to control this stream. We also, about the same people we started with out with people people hung out in this chaotic one
Starting point is 02:34:01 I love him so much been riding thank you you've been riding you might misinterpret that as a bad thing you're happy you're here there's the same number of people here as the beginning immediate response and uh john
Starting point is 02:34:17 as always you were the MVP of my life I did what I could John made this all possible we'll be properly colorized next time I'm telling you some follow-ups with our guy as smile but uh But yeah, I appreciate it. No, we do a follow-ups, and we're going to give them a proper shout-out. Yeah, we'll shout them out when we're not struggling.
Starting point is 02:34:36 When inexplicable, it's Friday the 13th, I forgot. So inexplicable things are wont to happen. So go watch your favorite Jason movie today. We love you. Bye, everyone. Bye, everyone. And, yeah, let me do up the end screen. All right.
Starting point is 02:34:53 And we transition. Peace be with you.

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