The Reel Rejects - Awards Season & Hollywood Marketing Are An Absolute Mess (Timothée Chalamet, Spider-Man 4, Lanterns)
Episode Date: March 14, 2026Hollywood feels weird right now… and awards season might be the messiest it’s been in a long time. On this Reel Rejects live podcast, Greg Alba & Coy Jandreau are diving into all the biggest movie... news, Oscars controversy, Marvel speculation, DC reactions, and Hollywood marketing chaos happening right now. We’re talking Oscars predictions, the Timothée Chalamet backlash over his opera and ballet comments, BAFTA controversy, the bizarre Jim Carrey clone conversation, and why people are seriously asking: where is the Spider-Man: Brand New Day trailer? We’re also getting into the Lanterns trailer reaction, why some DC fans were left disappointed, and why Aaron Pierre being part of Man of Tomorrow could still be a huge sign for the future of the DCU. And of course, we have to talk about the Marvel reunion being teased for the Oscars, all the Avengers: Doomsday trailer speculation, and whether Hollywood marketing has become way too obsessed with hype, “moments,” and forcing people to care instead of actually building excitement the right way. Is awards season broken? Is Hollywood marketing a complete mess? And are fans getting burned out by the nonstop hype cycle? Follow Coy Jandreau: Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad: Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM: FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Still not live.
That's very much live.
People are in the chat.
I only see Roxy in the chat.
Oh, maybe.
video.
It looks like now we are.
Are we now live?
I think it might be now live.
Oh my God.
Are we live?
Someone tell us they can hear us.
We weren't before.
So we weren't live.
I have refreshed the page again.
But Roxy is assuredly in here.
It says my connection is excellent.
Suddenly there's so much noise from two phones in here.
It's from the mics.
And are we live?
We're live.
We got there.
It was a lot.
We'll redo the thing.
Roxy hated that we turned this into a live podcast.
That's how I want to start this.
Oh, did she?
Yeah.
Isn't that like the joy?
Is this like Monday?
This is like months ago when she just, why doesn't she like, is it because she doesn't
like live?
She said something about the quality going down and I couldn't agree more.
Gotta live boldly.
I think the quality went out as per the intro.
That's why every intro like, are you able to film now?
Are we able to talk to each of?
other now? Are we loud to speak? You know, sometimes maybe Roxie's right. Sometimes. Sometimes she is.
Here's a little preview of what happens every single time before we record. I usually show up,
you'd like third to last and I'm usually like, okay, try to be, trying to be in a better mood today.
Trying to be at a better mood. Coy's like being all chipper, trying to keep the energy up.
And then John is just looking like it's having the worst fucking life ever. Every, every, every
I'm good until he sits in that chair.
Every stream, John's just,
everything was perfect.
And now everything is wrong.
And I don't know what happened.
I'm just here for morale.
I'm not even here from expertise.
I'm here to keep morale up.
But we are not AI.
We are live.
No.
That's what counts.
Only humans could mess up this way.
And now we are going to have more of an old school of how we originally wanted to do the podcast.
I asked, yesterday I had to ask quite this question.
like four times to get it through to his head.
Like, what do we want to talk about?
Well, here's the news.
News, news, news, news.
And I'm like, no, what do we want to discuss?
Are we allowed to do what we want on the internet?
This one's for us today.
Yeah, there's been a lot of like sassy gossip.
Yeah, there's stuff that I was like,
what's just compelling the brain?
We're seeing a lot of early super chats.
Thank you guys so much for contributing.
We never end a stream without going through every single one
of the super chats and stream labs.
Thank you guys so much for supporting this little show.
that we have been building up here.
And for those who are here now
taking a gamble on a topic like this,
which is not our usual kind of go-to,
really appreciate you.
I think it's inspiring more super chats of chaos.
Like, I like the chaotic element.
So whomever's here.
Thank you very much.
Some things that sometimes we do shows
where I have zero notes,
and then sometimes I got too many notes,
where then I become too note-reliant.
Which is awful.
Like, no, I need to get out of my head
and just have a conversation.
So a lot of this will just
setting you up to talk quite. So we have one here. First one, we want to talk about the award season
chaos because there's so many crazy things that have been going on in the past few weeks and then
the Oscars are here in just a couple of days. And we want to talk late. Late. Very late. It used to be
February, right? It's almost always February. Or late January. Why is it St. Patrick's Day?
Oscars. And then soon it's going to be just on YouTube. Late March in the past? No. Really?
No, it's not. It's been both. We're getting movies that are eligible now in like, like, Project
Tell Mary is out and that's going to be next year,
it's a little strange, huh?
This deep in the year, it's weird.
Well, maybe they did that to, I think they had postponed it because of pandemic
once.
Once, and then they kind of stuck to that, yeah.
And then we also want to talk a little bit about Hollywood marketing,
how that's a little bit, you know, of a, it's in flux.
It's like interesting.
Like, we want to talk about what Spider-Man brand new days doing and have,
how like trailer rollouts have sort of become the story and how so much
emphasis seems to be put more on trailers and the actual movie itself.
Kind of saw that with the bride now that I think about it.
I think the attention spans part of it.
What do you mean, but like should we dive in or we'll get there.
We'll get there.
Cheez.
We'll get there.
Cheats. Good call. What a tease.
And, you know, like what we saw with like lanterns, how D.C. kind of got punished for
withholding some spectacle. And now that marble is actually going to be going to the
Oscars, the little Oscar reunion.
Yeah.
And they need to create another moment. Just a lot of things are feeling like,
conversation velocity at the moment.
And it's fun, though.
Yeah, that's the thing.
That's the weird part.
We could sit here and look mad at all the...
More clicks.
All the drama that's going on,
and we can do videos where we seem pissed off.
Is there a tear emoji we can put on a woman's face?
Should we make our eyes much bigger?
And bigger and...
I've learned how to thumbnail face.
Greg complimented me.
Yeah, I finally did it.
After seven years.
It's how I, like...
Where to start with?
So the real, okay, the real thing that we have here is the Oscars are happening this Sunday, 98th Oscars.
The one thing, the first positive thing I'll say, though, about it, that they're getting right.
And this is not just bias.
It's not even in my notes.
Conan O'Brien.
I was going to say this.
If you didn't say it, I was going to agree.
I was going to say having a host and then having a good host.
How do you, you like the, you champion more the significance of the Oscars more than I personally do.
I'm kind of sick of them and I don't really, I don't even.
watch them. It's brand new. There's only been 98 of them.
Yeah. What a concept.
There was one year Humphrey and I
tried doing a live stream of it.
I've encouraged it every year. And we've, we were so
bored that we ended
it. And then
the moonlight, la la la land
debacle happened 20 minutes later.
I was like, what the fuck?
We ended before
what's the biggest moment?
Until the best picture moment.
The clicks we could have gotten.
Yeah, we could have got that reaction.
slip outs.
But that's what I mean.
The award show season
seems to be so much about,
like, more about,
wow, they don't.
It's so crazy.
I've told them this is this award season of chaos.
It's happening real in time.
Alex, can you do me a solid?
Can you go to them and tell them to stop
running the shower next door?
That's a shower.
That's a shower.
We discovered the source of that annoying noise
and it's a shower.
It's a place of business.
So the Oscars,
in my opinion,
the beauty of the Oscars is,
on the cynical side,
I understand that it's like in-house giving each other awards for art and that to some people is like egotistical.
To me, I think every job should have more merit-based like congratulations.
Like I think any job, it's just this one has spectacle.
This one is something that like we advertise and we make big and like it is a job like any other.
And if you actually go to any of these award shows, it is just like going to like a VFW.
Like it's a conference and people are sitting except for these people are shiny.
So it's not that it's more important than any of.
other thing. I think the difference is it's a way to advertise and raise awareness for art.
So the reason I advocate for it is there are movies I might not have seen if not for the
nomination. And I think that's the beauty of nominating, say, nine to ten best picture. That's
the beauty of like raising awareness for five directors or five supporting actors. Like, you find
roles in the hierarchy that you might not have been exposed to. So I think the beauty of award season
is beyond the ego boosts awareness raising. Like I wouldn't have known her Wagner, Mora,
if not for this like campaign where he's next to four actors I'm a big fan of and then I looked into him.
I wouldn't have known, uh, you know, some of the films that got best picture nominations
necessarily without the hype. So I think it's a really wonderful thing to raise awareness while also
the job itself of making film is so icebergy. Like we see this part and this is the rest.
I think it's really beautiful to give people that have worked hard their whole lives a few months
of like, hey, this is the best thing we've seen. Let's just say how cool.
And I like Michael B. Jordan right now. He's getting this like, you know, Heroes Tour. That dude's been doing this for like 15 years. And I feel like now he's getting his laurels in a bigger way. And I think that's a really special thing that we should celebrate humanity more. And art is a reflection of humanity. So I think that award season is a beautiful pinnacle of looking at what people do, which is share their emotional journey and celebrating it.
So the question that comes down to what do we choose to focus on, though? Because what you're talking about is what the idealism of what, which is what I do.
like Oscars and awards show season should be.
We're talking about the ballet.
Yeah.
You should be talking about the opera.
We were talking about what it ought to have.
Kind of what actually what I grew up with with the Oscars.
I used to love the Oscars when I was a kid.
And I feel like it used to exceed these small little film niches.
Like your advocacy for art and raising awareness, I don't think that's the impact of the Oscars anymore.
I feel like it's very minuscule.
in that department.
I think we've seen the politics too much.
Well, that's all it is now.
We've exposed the, we saw it to the hood.
Sure.
And we're also in it.
Like I think there was a time, if, say, what we did was 20 years ago, this would be the
equivalent of having like an entertainment tonight or a broadcast news show.
And we as individuals might know too much for it to be enjoyable, but the masses wouldn't.
Now we and the masses, I feel like, are a little too privy to like all of the machinations.
I don't feel like the,
Oscars have truly evolved with the changing of the industry that much.
They try.
They kind of try.
They keep hiring TikTokers to go and make sound bites.
They try with marketing tactics.
Which we'll talk about it.
Yeah.
They try with marketing like, oh, let's get a Marvel reunion going, which might boast,
bode well for Marvel, perhaps.
Or that's why I think Conan O'Brien is like the smartest get they could have
gotten because Conan has managed to stay consistent, stay in the zeitgeist,
stay like number one, even when he left television.
he's somehow still managed to be like the biggest superstar.
I think he bridges the gap between the old Oscars.
He's the only one.
Right.
Like he's a host like a Billy Crystal and that era,
but he's also like internet era plugged in.
Exactly.
And he's the only one.
He's got every demographic and everyone trusts it.
He has a level of trust that most people wouldn't be able to garner.
And he's got all ages and he's worldwide.
Simpson's been on for 40 years.
A lot of people I know tune in just because of Conan Ovi.
And that's why you need a host.
I don't understand why.
for so many years there was like a hostless Oscars
where there people would just wander up and be like,
I'm gonna say a thing that I think's funny.
And I was like, who wrote that?
What is happening?
And then they just cut to someone.
And it was longer because more people would quasi host.
Yeah.
We need structure.
I think that one of the best hosts we ever had was Hugh Jackman
because he's such a showman and it's such an entertaining thing.
And you've got the clickbait.
He's great.
Is he the greatest?
He's great.
Somebody say he's the greatest showman.
He's got that man.
That man.
But like that was the shininess of an actor doing it and the host ability of a, like,
someone,
really good.
Yeah.
And I think that's what you need for something.
And I think Conan is like that where it's like there's a presence and he's a good host.
And on top of that too, like his on the online promotions that he does are so good.
Like the promo for that he does like the interviews, the podcast, even the variety.
There's like variety or Hollywood reporter cover magazine one.
Like his his satire and self deprecation is the thing that the Oscars needs to kind of take the
piss out of itself and lead up to.
He's doing chicken shop date.
Like he's doing the press tour that actors do for movies for the Oscar hosting.
Do you see his Jimmy Kimmel interview?
No.
He did an interview on Jimmy Kimmel where he was revealing the train dream,
the number one train dreams joke they had because they can't come up with a train dream's joke.
And he just decided to like reveal it there.
He's talking,
he's talking about the failure of trying to come up with the joke for it.
That's great.
That's what I mean.
It's like,
it's this insightful thing.
And the landscape of media has changed so much where like movies and shows are all feeling like
content now and what clicks with audiences and Oscars now because of what movies have evolved
into throughout streaming platforms through independency through what actually becomes popular,
we would see the disconnect between audiences and Oscars for a while.
But usually there was enough like big tent pull films that really clicked with the masses
that would become a big thing that's shining the Oscars.
I think that's a big part of why I feel like it's too late in the year because like where
Like you just said train dreams and I was like, oh right, that's this year's.
Like I'm pulling for train dreams.
I don't think it's going to win, but I loved train dreams.
I feel like I saw that years ago.
You and I saw sinners together.
Does that feel like a movie you're voting for this year?
No, no.
It feels like a two years ago movie.
That's crazy to me.
Like I loved sinners, but like we did not watch that in a period of time that feels like
that should be this Sunday's Oscar.
Well, see, what and what we're talking about is it doesn't feel like right now,
this is what I feel like we used to get, a great Oscar race.
Yeah.
That's what we used to have.
I think the hype should be around who's going to win Timothy Shalemy or Michael B. Jordan.
Who's going to win this award? Who's going to win best director? Who's going to win this?
And of course, of course there's people out there who are concerned with that.
Of course there's people out there who love to do the predictions. I think right now John Campi is live doing just that.
They're doing a prediction. And a lot of people love to get into that game. And I personally play the game too.
I think it's a fun one. But that doesn't seem to be the online conversation around it.
everything is about like the Oscars feels like a very online thing right now where it's all just about like drama and chaos.
Like what's happened with Timothy Shalamee really does feel like a classic case of we need a villain for the Oscars.
It feels like the politics of the Oscars has become truly politics.
Like it used to be political how you lobbied for Oscars.
Now it is politics as in we must tear down the frontrunner.
Like it's crazy that we've reached the point in movies that people are doing.
like sabotage campaigns. Yeah. I can't imagine in the heyday of I think of what I think of the
Oscars like Jack Nicholson up front, Billy Crystal hosting. Imagine if there was like a handwritten
letter campaign of like, Jack Nicholson is. Like that's such a weird thing. But I think the internet
needs more stimuli. Like have you, have you watched Anchorman 2 in the last five years?
I remember it decently well. I've seen it twice. It is shockingly precient. It is one of the most
ahead of its time comedies. And nobody will talk about Anchorman too. I mean,
One is a classic, but Anchorman 2 is the death of journalism by way of the 24-hour news cycle.
Yeah, yeah.
I think we've now left that being the death of journalism and have now exacerbated it to.
It has to be a five-minute news cycle every one minute.
There has to be five minutes of content every minute on the internet because half the TikTokers and half of the YouTubers and half of the people that are making short-form content are saying like, put out 30 things a day.
Yes. Yes.
And so when you run out of things to talk about, the clip that Chalamay is getting dragged through is from weeks ago.
But someone one day was like, what if we burn this boy?
It's such false.
To me, it's false outrage.
Yes.
People are bored.
They have too much time.
And there's real shit happening.
What is the exact quote that he said?
It was something about like the takeaway.
All right.
I'm paraphrasing while John pulled it up.
The takeaway is he said something that sounded insulting about, I guess it is insulting about the, no one cares about ballet and opera anymore.
He said to me, it was, I got a one part of an industry that is.
kind of on its last legs.
That's what, like, he was saying, like, I don't want to be,
I don't want movies to be where ballet and opera is,
is how I interpret it.
I don't want to be working in,
and there was like a lot of lead up to it.
This is why no one was pissed off
when the actual interview came out.
But you pulled out of context.
Context leading into it.
So no one was mad.
And then suddenly they clip it on, everyone's like,
I don't like that one sentence.
Now, I'm not actually going to go to the opera and go to the ballet now.
Well, this caused me a support.
this thing I'm angry about? Certainly not. I've never been to the opera. And I think I was
watching a video this week from a, I think the channel's called Keisha says I want to say it is.
And she brought up a great point that like his mom is actually as a ballet dancer. So he's kind of like plugged in to like what the conversation around this would be.
And maybe it's personal that ballet went away for him.
He says, I don't want to be working in ballet or opera or, you know, things where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive.
And what's funny is when you watch the clip, he's, you could see he's like, oh shit.
what did I say?
And McConaughey's like, yep, yep, yep, like trying to move it along.
Because he acknowledges, he flat out says, I took shots for no reason.
He says the words, like, oh, there's like a self-awareness in that moment.
And what human being doesn't just say an opinion that might sound a little glib from time to time?
Who doesn't say something that might sound a little tone deaf or might lack new conversations?
And he's been kind of smart to position himself around like, let me do a big interview,
with Christopher Nolan.
Yeah, the, what's his movie night?
Where for like seven days,
he had different people interview him after his movie,
and he showed up to all of them.
I thought that was genius.
It shows the body of his work.
It shows like, you know,
having interviews from different people
getting different dynamics out of it,
not the same sound bites.
And then this was January.
And I, even in this soundbite written down,
I see where he's coming from.
I don't agree with it.
Like, I don't agree with the way it was interpreted.
But I think the way he meant it,
he was just trying to say he doesn't want the movies to go the way of other art that is not doing as well as it was.
Well, the discourse around it is so disproportionate though.
Yeah.
It's obnoxious.
Like, I don't think it was, it's a lot of things can coexist.
Yeah.
It can be tone deaf.
Yeah.
And like I said, they could be glib.
At the same time, they can be disproportionate and it could be not malicious.
It's just something that he said, but for some reason this is the thing they're like, let's ask every fucking celebrity.
you would what you think about this and then you then you position every celebrity to
kind of said either be in trouble or like throw them up to the bus like they have no
this kid i don't know or i get in trouble yeah it's like oh shit we see what the shit timothy
shallomys getting i love the ballet they're like no is that have ticket sales gone up for the
ballet since this happened this is going for someone who's been to a couple ballet shows i the ballet
i find reasonably enjoyable i go more because my wife loves it but i i find it relatively
enjoyable. But when I did go to
in New York, it was fucking packed.
And I did get, I wasn't
able to go because she actually got sick. And so we had
to, we didn't actually return our tickets because we were like,
this is a true thing. We actually, we got tickets
to Swan Lake out here. And
it was sold out at the
Alex leader in Glendale. I think it was the Alex
leader in Glendale. And we
said, no, we're not going to refund him to
support the ballet.
You know?
But we had that thought.
Yeah. I won't support it.
Like, it's just a reality.
What's crazy to me is this quote came out a while back, but then this week it got re, or last week got rehashed, the same week that AMC put out the numbers that like, we're down 10% from last year and last year wasn't great.
Yeah.
Like movie theaters are in a bad way and he's saying he doesn't want that to be the case.
Like no one's giving the context of where he's coming from.
Yeah.
And that's what I was saying all last year with all the superhero movies coming out, not doing as well.
I was saying like, guys, it's not that superhero movies aren't doing as well.
that movies aren't doing as well, including superhero movies.
Yes.
And I got this, I mean, not to the scale.
I'm not running for an Oscar.
But I got the same crap of trying to, like,
give more context to what we're trying to say.
Well, to context, he never said opera and ballet are bad.
No.
That's not what he said.
He said that people aren't caring anymore.
Just like the way people are saying that about fucking movies.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
That's what you're pointing out right now.
No one's saying like, oh, movies are bad.
Some people say that, but there's too many movies to say that.
That's a very uninformed statement in my opinion.
So he never said they were bad, but people are reacting as if he's saying they are bad.
Which is costing him a lot of good grace in this Oscar rub, which is crazy.
Well, it might change like optics and conversation around it, but if I'm not mistaken, I would think the vote, the boats, the votes have already.
I think they closed a couple weeks ago, but I don't know with the timing of like this could have been like a hit piece two days before.
Like, I don't know.
But do you see like how this, this is like creating the Oscars in a way that's back to it,
feeling joyless.
Yeah.
And terminally,
we're watching just something
that feels like a terminally online thing.
And right now,
it would sound,
it seems like Michael B.
Jordan will probably win the Oscar for this.
But this is all I fucking hear about.
Right.
Right.
And Mike Jones got like nights of people giving him as laurels,
but instead we're talking about him.
Yeah.
Not Mike.
But we should be talking more about Michael B. Jordan.
And Leonard DiCaprio.
The performance is in there.
We should be talking about the snubs and that.
That excitement around there, but this is what people like, people like an Oscars villain now.
I think people like drama, period.
I mean, there's a reason in reality TV took over.
There's a reason like, there.
Who is that person in the fucking movie that no one liked that got nominated a couple years ago with the Selena Gomez musical, the Netflix one?
Oh, for Amelia Perez.
Yeah.
They found some tweets you made.
Carlos Sophia, I guess gone.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, let's find tweets that she made years ago.
Yeah.
Let's make her out to be like the biggest enemy right now of the season.
That is what people enjoy.
And I don't even remember the Enora shit, but I remember like a.
Nora was getting like slammed all the fucking time.
Yeah, that was only last year.
Yeah.
Oh, the Austers don't feel like they're four audiences at all anymore.
Like they do seem like you're saying political.
They do seem very just businesslike.
To my understanding that if you win an Oscar, it boosts your salary quite a bit.
Yeah, because the next trailer is going to say Academy Award, nominee or winner.
People like the prestige of it, but it doesn't actually mean anything to the audiences as much anymore.
I also think there is an element of it feeling like I've,
thought for something and this gives me something that like feels real and tangible. Like I,
I like our Gem award. I'm, I think, I think that's incredible. Like, I think it's so cool that we
have a thing we can hold of like all the hard work. I got a Signal Award. And now when you look
my name up, it's like, I'm Signal Award winning podcaster. So it's cool to have like a thing.
So I think there is an element of this job is so much, any job in entertainment is so much unseen
that when there's something that you can express to someone else that makes it feel real.
Like the first time my grandparents understood what I did for work felt great because I was like,
They're like, oh, you do the news.
And I was like, that's, you get the thing.
No sound.
We have sound on this side.
Does the audience have sound?
Let me see what's going on.
Uh-oh.
For when.
When did they say there's no sound?
Okay.
I mean, my thing's up to date.
Yeah, people are, I have not seen a no sound.
I don't see anything.
I don't see anything about no sound.
What are you talking about?
Are you watching the right stream, Alex?
She's watching someone else's stream.
Are you crazy, Alex?
Are you crazy?
Roxy was right.
This is what's going to be spray painted all throughout Los Angeles.
Roxy was right.
Roxy was right.
People holding picketing signs.
Roxy was right.
Thanos Roxy.
Any other?
Oh, okay.
So then let's talk about part of the awards section that I would like to talk about is the conspiratorial side of it.
The Jim Carrey thing was fucking the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
That was such a weird day at the end of the weird days.
I was so tickled by just the level of insane.
Like this was full on like Sasquatch people.
Yes.
There was two things, right?
So two things that kind of happened.
Like my conspiratorial side actually came out with the BAFTA situation with the guy
with a John, whatever's name is,
who had Tourette's.
Is there a racism conspiracy?
What's,
what's the conspiracy?
My own conspiracy is,
oh, okay.
They left that in there.
They did,
because they cut out the other stuff.
Yeah, I think they left that in there
to generate drama.
Yeah, because there was stuff they cut out.
Because that's what gets attention.
Now, they have come out and have said that the editors thought that they got it.
I'm like,
it's a very specific moment when two black people were on stage and they shouted this.
And it's such a gross moment because the rest of that week,
every interview Delroy. Delroly Lindo
has had the worst, like, run
of press between that stupid
influencer saying, like, congrats of being an
up and comer, what? And then, like,
getting overshadowed for years, not getting a
nomination for Defy Bloods. Like, the last
four years, I've wanted
Delroy Linder to get some love. He's finally getting some love.
And then him and Michael B. Jordan get yelled
the most horrendous thing on that
stage while being, like, celebrated.
And their excuse was like, sorry, we didn't
catch that one. Yeah. That's crazy.
Like the conversation of
I've talked with people who've worked with people with Tourette's.
And I've heard both sides, actually.
I've listened to videos on it.
I don't have a conclusion on whether or not, like, it's sending me from an actual racist part or not.
I don't know the science enough to talk to the individual, but I can.
I don't have enough science to talk about the individual, but I have enough knowledge of editing.
Yes.
Yeah.
So it's something they easily could have edited out.
And I want to say to Michael B. Jordan and Delroi Lindo's credit, holy shit, they
handle that shit like fucking champs man.
They could have muted that sound and even
had the video if they didn't, if there was an issue.
It would have just been like a pause because they were
professionals dealing with something they should
have never dealt with. Yeah. And to
like that that speaks
a lot more to the things that I'm always like hearing
about about how like black people have to carry
themselves with so much extraness
and public. And you see that level
of fucking like non-reactive strength.
It's one of the things I love about Wonder Man was that was like
an undercurrent of like the strength you have to
have just to operate, much less to be someone
like persecuted for an extra. Exactly. It was fucking awesome how they handled that shit. Not awesome
that had happened, but how they've managed to handle it is it is the definition of fucking
effortless grace and how they've done it. And I will say that the reaction from the public was the
opposite. Like whether it was people attacking, again, I don't know enough about mental
imbalances. Neither do I. People attacking him without knowing, people attacking them for speaking out.
people attack like it was insane that everyone just wanted to find someone to be mad at and then
the people that are actually in control of the stream felt like that got the least of it see that
people wanted to be mad at the humans definitely definitely and that's crazy but that's my
conspiratorial side that like I have no evidence to support it other than the fact that it seems
like a pretty obvious thing that they could have muted yeah that they kept that in there because
they knew it would generate conversation around it people like to tune in now to things of what might
go wrong what drama can we do like will smith slap fucking a like who does who doesn't watch the
Oscars out going on.
I wonder what might happen this time.
Who will punt true this year?
Escalation.
It made the Oscars so exciting.
Yeah.
But they saw anything that generates numbers and attention.
It's like,
it's very Vince McMahon type of personality's trade style.
And I like the Baftas because they're,
I mean,
British actors are incredible.
Like the Baftas feel like,
the Golden Globes feel like the party.
The Baftas feel like the varsity thesis actors.
And the Oscars feels like Hollywood's version.
Like, there are three very different shows.
I love the Baftas.
So when I talk about the BFTAs, it's usually about the performances,
but I feel like the Bafters doesn't get the level of conversation.
The Oscars do because it's not ours.
Yeah.
This year we're talking about the Bafas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, I'm going to say the thing that you're not supposed to say,
but this is the reality of what's happening is that I do on a very personal moral level,
fucking hate what happened.
I don't agree with what happened.
And they should have muted that out.
It shouldn't have been there.
Then when it comes out and then videos are getting made,
the drama becomes this weird version of entertainment,
even for myself as a consumer,
to go, there's something entertaining about this drama,
and then I become part of that fucking problem.
You know what I mean?
And then other people are talking about.
Everyone who's like,
this shouldn't have to do that.
All the people who are consuming and going online and everything.
We don't realize how much we're all feeding into it, though.
Like, I feed into it.
We all feed into it.
We're talking about right fucking now.
maybe because there is something
there's not
it's that weird feeling though like something doesn't feel right about
I feel like a running man you know it has that
type of like dystopian flare of media
and it's hard because there are so many people
how I phrase this delicately
there are so many people that are so willfully
ignorant that want things to be
the new status quo that are fighting for regression
that are able to dismiss things
because of ignorance that don't realize
these men are celebrating art
and are celebrating achievements
and now that's tarnished
in a way that they can't just say it's fine
but have to act as if
and then those same ignorant
regressive people can belittle them
in either direction if they acknowledge it or if they don't acknowledge it.
So either way it's a giant step back
and that's so appalling
and again I'm not informed enough
to speak to the individual, but I am informed enough to speak to the people that are
interviewing them and asking. Like, I think that's gross. And I think it's, it's gross that
it's turning into more of the conversation than the actual achievement. Yeah. Fullheartedly.
It's just, it, like, I don't know. We don't get better like this. Like, you know what I mean?
Like, and that we should be progressing. Like someone in the live chat said, like, I miss early 2000s
when we just enjoyed things. We've certainly regressed in a lot of ways, but there were different
problems in the 90s and 2000s, there's this thing where we just look to the past as like better
than it was. Unfortunately now, things are just much more publicly repulsive. Yeah. I think what Hollywood
has down right now is they're very good at managing attention. Yeah. But they're worse. They're
really bad at managing meaning. Meaning is gone now. I think they're great at managing attention. I think
they're worse at managing retention. Good. Yeah. Because there's no way.
to keep someone entertained without it being dramatic.
Yeah.
You can catch them, but then they're gone.
Yeah.
And that's going to speak to my marketing conversation.
It is very much the Maximus gladiator.
Are you not entertained?
That's exactly what this feels like.
People want something they can swipe.
They want that moment.
And because we're in a attention,
retention grabbing culture and trying to like keep people engaged in that first
couple of seconds,
they need the drama.
And the Jim Carrey thing, though, is just a, is hilarious.
That feels a lot easier to say.
insane. It's I'm I'm a little obsessed with in this this definitely stems from my own little
insecurities with body image and aging and everything is the how celebrities are now all getting
like the same kind of plastic surgery or like the men do the over kind of Botox and the lifts they all
started looking like the same Instagram faces a lot of the women are getting the overdeveloped cheekbones
really the fat from their cheeks like yeah we're seeing so many of the same fucking surgeries
and I'm, I am a little obsessed
with like seeing the before and afters and watching
videos about it and seeing how
people are like, like what's happening
with the social media age, how it's affecting
both men and women and how they're doing it
in their like 30s, getting surgery
in the 30s usually they wish. What are these people going to look
like in their 60s? Yes, like if you start wild.
Yeah, it's wild. And to me,
I saw Jim Caron. I'm like, yeah, it just looks like one of those fucking
cases. Yeah, like I didn't, was there anyone
that was like Bradley Cooper's not Bradley Cooper
and that dude looked way more different.
He looked way more different than, like, that is to me, Jim Carrey with work.
Bradley Cooper, if I ran into on the street, I might have been like, is that Thadley Cooper?
I think it's just something that maybe Thadley Cooper.
I think it's something that we perhaps got carried away with because Jim Carried away.
What? Jim Carried away.
That took me a while.
I was like, what movie did he start?
called Carried Away
Because I talked C-A-R-R-I-E-D
Not C-A-R-R-E-Y
A pun so bad
The person that said it couldn't understand
What I was punting
Probably just me
You were saying
I was saying that
He got carried away with the makeup
This has to do I think
With our pariscial relationship
With Jim Carrey though
A guy who in the last few years
Has evolved into Mr. Anti-Hollywood
And he goes out there
With like a big beard
At the Golden Globes
And make speeches
Talking about how this is the most meaningless thing
he goes on a red carpet and is like, I wanted to find the most pointless thing.
So he seemed like the last person who might actually succumb to doing weird Botox
or whatever injections and fillers and maybe got carried away with it.
So that's what I think happened with this association.
And it just looks like post injections and surgery.
I don't know the full details of what it might be, but that's all that really happened.
And it just depends on lighting.
It depends on shots.
And you know, I also got an elastic face.
That's what he's known for.
So someone with a dynamic elastic face getting work is probably going to look more dynamic.
And we're so used to people who, when celebrities are going on, our online world has evolved into something so weird now that people genuinely believe he had a clode up there.
It was crazy for me was like, there was about five minutes where I was like, you know, things are just messed up enough.
Maybe.
Like, I don't think I ever fully believed it, but I had a moment.
I had a moment of apathy of like everything's gotten so weird.
What if that's just today?
Like when I found out like Tom Brady apparently cloned his dog.
No.
And I was like, I don't know if that's true or not.
I'll never know.
But apparently Tom Brady's dog is a clone of his old dog.
And I have to just live with that maybe being true.
That's so sad.
It is.
I'd clone Spidey in a second.
Like I would, but like I don't have Tom Brady money.
But like.
But it's not the same.
No, they don't have the same like person.
I mean, mate, I don't know how much of the nature, nurture of
an animal is.
But you deserve the right to test out that sci-fi novel scenario for yourself.
And the goat with six Super Bowl rings apparently has.
And, but that's what's crazy is like, I don't, I would undercut the meaning of, of,
of original Spidey, though.
I would feel like he was Ben Riley.
I'd name him Ben.
But at the same time, you need to do this now.
This is canonically appropriate.
But you're right.
Like, I would definitely, I would have a hard time.
Like, if he did something unspity like, that would break my heart, like those
things.
But the fact that.
like that Tom Brady thing is even a possibility in reality.
There was five minutes where I was like, wouldn't it be just crazy enough if the things that are actually being proven true?
Sure, Jim Carrey.
Why not?
Like, the world is so exhausting.
I don't like the fact that I didn't feel engaged enough to pursue it.
Like, I'm so broken down by the world.
I'm like, I don't care.
Maybe.
That's crazy.
Like, every time there's like a UFO rumor like aliens and stuff, I'm like, sure.
Why not?
They're confirmed down, though.
They say, haven't seen one.
I believe aliens are real.
But like I don't, I want to care.
I believe they're exactly, they, they beam you up and probe your butt.
That's it.
That's all they are.
The whole thing, there's here probing it.
There's here just to get some ass play out there.
We're Tijuana for the universe.
Just here to be a donkey show for the space.
But like, that's weird.
Like that we're just, I mean, and again, this is just where I'm at in life.
But it's gotten so exhausting that this is the conversation.
And at no point was I like, huh, that'd be special.
And the conversation.
ought to have been how cool is it that Jim Carrey decided to learn French and speak
to learn us to have a whole speech to honor this yeah and say it like how fucking cool is that
that he did all that effort instead it's like he looks bad is it a clone his eyes are a different
color I I I want to celebrate art again and I think that doesn't happen with how much time we give
to dissecting everything although if it did come out that he was a clone that would be mind-blowing
and I would want to know all the layers to that.
That would so cool.
I would buy my words.
It's my Snyder cut right here.
How, how into like, yeah, like, when did it happen?
Yeah.
Was it before Sonic or after?
Yeah, when the clone happened?
Is there a Truman show scenario where there's a real Jim Carrey trapped in a world?
I'd be so down if there is a clone.
I would instantly take back everything I'm saying.
It'd be the way.
So specifically his filmography is so specifically attuned to him being cloned.
It's like, when did Rodey become a scroll?
Yeah, that would be.
But I don't know, man.
This was such a weird one.
The world has gotten so strange.
There's a comment.
About what?
About what, Alex.
I'm just seeing...
About the poster.
What poster?
People were just wondering why my poster is.
Okay, let's hear it.
What's your conversation you had with John?
About the poster, Alex.
You are the separate combo.
It's a separate thing.
Because Coyne are not wearing headphones so we can...
You're not...
It's not entertaining enough for you.
It's morbid time.
It's the Morbius poster you gave me from the Morbius premiere you hosted.
Yes.
John is the only person I've had.
I have the statue back there, but it's not here today.
I've given John multiple morbius things.
Well, guys, thank John for the stream.
No, I don't.
Don't thank me this week.
Thank me next week.
Thank me next week when it doesn't look like a weird circus.
Secondly, do you guys think Jim Carrey's a clone?
Let us know in the chat.
Do you agree with Timothy Shalamey?
Do you think John Humphrey should do a video about if the Tourette's guy actually is a racist or not?
Yeah, specifically John do a video essay.
This conversation has at least taught me stuff about, I mean, as shitty as that conversation has become, you know, I've learned some stuff about Caprolia.
The, you know, it's had like the, the phenomenon in which you shout out stuff that.
So it's not a position.
It's not a poop thing.
I feel like Alex is on a stream that is so broken compared to our story.
I want an Alex.
Jay Della Celestine said we can hear you at the same time.
We are all competing.
Charlie muted himself.
Anyway, guys, we're going to move on now.
These topics are going to be a little bit shorter.
Let's talk about some marketing debuggles here.
Can I open this with a positive because we're going to go negative?
What if I said no?
Then I would wait.
The positive I wanted to say, when Greg asked me, what news stories do you want to cover?
This had not come across my news desk at the time.
And by news desk, I mean me and Greg standing.
I found out that a universal has officially confirmed there is going to be a minimum of five weeks for every theatrical film,
no matter how it's performing at the box office, to go up to seven weeks in 2027.
This is in direct conflict with everything happening, with streaming, and with the 10% reduction in AMC.
this is directly competing with that.
I'm so thankful to Universal.
I hope more studios follow suit.
I also think they did it right before
CinemaCon because I think another bunch of studios
are going to announce it so they can be the good guy first
and they are the good guy right now.
Five weeks is great.
Let's get it up to seven.
I'm very excited.
That is a good news.
I mean, we need it.
That's good.
It's good news.
It's good news.
45 days minimum.
Good news.
Five weekends.
Well, on to some controversial ones.
Slightly controversial.
This tomb will change completely
in just a few days.
Spider-Man brand new day
is finally getting a trailer.
When did the trailer for No Way Home come out?
That was very different though,
because the non-stop conversation around it
was like literally everywhere
and every outlet.
And it was a different type of hype, right?
Well, I feel like this is also different
than the average movie
because of the images and because,
like I feel like we've been talking about Spider-Man
for six months.
At least.
I feel like the world was hearing about No Way Home forever, though, for a while.
I don't know what the world, because we're so in this bubble.
Because it was the first time they would get, like, before there's Hugh Jackman coming back,
before there was Blade making a came.
But we didn't know they were coming back.
It was just a room.
But that became the conversation that dominated of like, will they, won't they?
So everyone was very interested in what this Spider-Man movie might be.
Yeah.
Whereas, as people are excited for a brand-new day, it definitely doesn't have that same level of anticipation
because we've kind of,
they can't really like repeat that.
Yeah.
It's now more about like,
are they going to make a good spider movie?
They're going to do something cool here.
They're going to make something good.
And the conversation around Marvel has,
has been shifting quite a bit,
as we've discussed many times.
And,
you know,
nowadays it does feel a little bit like studios.
Well,
let me ask you this then.
Do you feel like studios have kind of trained us
to be more excited for the trailer strategy
than the movie itself?
I think marketing is a separate entity
from movies more than ever.
It used to feel like marketing was a leg of distribution.
Now it feels like marketing is separate to me.
And I don't know if that's because we're directly involved
with marketing.
We have a Gem Award the M in that is marketing.
Like we're so in the trailer pre-pro,
everything coming up to the movie business
to the point where every video we do,
people are like,
aren't you covering more trailers?
Like we're so directly associated with trailers.
But they feel more and more removed from the actual movie because it feels like to me,
the trailer has always been its own art.
There is an art to making a trailer.
There is an art to that two and a half minutes that needs to be severed from the movie.
The whole point isn't that you just condense the movie into two and a half minutes.
But now it's getting to the point where it feels like they're like, let's show you as much as we can.
Let's make a two and a half minute movie because that's like our attention spans are so short that you need to get someone to think two and
half minutes is the best thing ever and hope they remember in three to six months to go give them two hours.
Yeah.
Like I feel like the TikTokification of our brains is causing trailers to be their own thing.
I feel like the conversation that we have to have on YouTube to promote things makes it its own thing.
I feel like the nature of marketing being separate has made it its own thing.
So I think that those things need to find a way to coalesce more because I don't know if it's
sustainable for people to want a trailer and then a second trailer and then TV spots and then still
give a shit. Like if we're showing them everything and if we're having such in-depth conversations
leading up to it, does the movie matter to the same scale as the lead-up? I've said for years,
I love when a first trailer comes out and then we've got months of conversation because in the window
from announcement to first trailer, there's all this, what's it going to feel like, what's going to
look like all these things. And then from trailer to movie, it's like, okay, now we know a sense of tone.
Now we can have this imagination and we can enjoy it. I love.
love lead up to movies because it's all up here. But the problem has become we then feel
entitlement. And then if it's not what we've now painted, it's suddenly not what I was promised.
Yes. And that's dangerous. Yeah. Well, we're dealing with fandoms.
Which is dangerous.
That is very dangerous. I guess do you do you feel like studios are actually building excitement
or are they manipulating attention when it comes to trailers?
Or do you feel...
It depends on the trailer.
It depends on the studio.
I think that...
I think three months is a good window for the modern trailer.
I think that 12 months for an announcement is exciting,
but sometimes gives too much away.
Like, we got Hunger Games a year before the movie,
and I'm excited for Hunger Games,
but by the time it comes around and be like,
yo, I saw that trailer a year ago.
I suppose it depends on the movie, right?
Yeah, it depends on like...
Hunger Games is one of my most anticipated of the year.
year, but it's crazy to have, like, what do you do after you start a year out? And then, like,
Doomsday, they're doing vignettes and they're doing a different flavor. They might have some stuff
at the Oscars. We don't know. But, like, they're doing different stuff. I think the name of
marketing has to change. Like, look at Junkets now. Like, junkets from five years ago were completely
different. Talk shows are being replaced by podcasts. The, the next wave of, I think Variety did
the thing about influencers and it was all um influencers that basically do short form and they're like
they called it the new talk show but they're not doing talk shows they're doing junkets basically
so i think the language is all changing and i think marketing has to reflect that but trailers
themselves i think they need to change how long they are if they're going to be more than four or
five months out i'm not the biggest fan of calling a movie content i just don't know how else to
phrase this, what I'm going to say, is I feel like the campaigns for stuff become oftentimes
more of the content than the movie itself. The movie itself feels less like the conversation
of the content. And I do keep looking at the bride for a reason because that was a huge flop,
huge fucking flop. How do I remember the trailers, both got insane views on YouTube. And that used
to be a sign that, oh, man, if they're getting like this much views and this much upvotes,
this is probably going to be a hit. And, you know, people are running away with like things.
Maggie Gyllenhaal might be saying in interviews and then taking the clips. Like,
there's so much money and emphasis put into the campaigns for stuff. Yet it doesn't really seem to be
affecting the, the movie. And what you're saying about Spider-Man, that's where I'm like kind of
torn with the, where to when to release this trailer. Because it's,
It does feel like the movie's coming out soon, but it also got, I don't really get the feeling.
And I, and then again, I don't have this feeling with any movies anymore ever is, oh, there's a Spider-Man movie coming out soon.
Like, I don't even really have that feeling.
Like, oh, there's a Spider-Man movie coming out soon.
And now with the marketing today, Netflix kind of does this where they'll release their trailers really close to their release date.
That way people are the most aware that this is coming.
So maybe they are adapting that level of strategy.
Maybe they're trying to emulate.
I think they're all experimenting.
I think Doomsday is an experiment in setting up hype a year out and Hunger Games.
I think that Spider-Man, it's a little different than the traditional, but I don't think
three months is unrealistic.
And we're about to hit three months.
It's out the last, it's out July or June 31st.
It's out like, it's out practically July.
It's March.
So anytime this month is a three-month until release, if it comes out this month.
You kind of feel like people are being conditioned to obsess over trailer-dry.
more than the actual movie itself.
Yes. Because that's free.
Yeah.
People don't go support theaters. That's the problem.
So then do you, okay, what's your honest assessment of the Spider-Man thing?
Do you think the silence is building anticipation or do you feel like it's draining anticipation?
My honest assessment as the biggest Spider-Man fan, I know, and as someone who has been professionally, personally, and as a child tied to this character, this particular one, especially.
especially, I think the first trailer was the Glasgow photos.
I think that's what they needed to do.
And I think that was genius.
I think the second trailer was Harry Holland's footage.
And now I think we wait for this trailer.
And it could come out in a month and a half and I'd be happy.
Like, I love that this is rumored to have like 15 villains and whether or not the studio
leaked it or people just got carried away with ideas or like, I don't know how that rumor got
started, but I love it because I don't know who the big bad is.
I only know Tombstone is in it.
I know Scorpion is in it.
I hear everything from like boomerang to the big wheel,
hypno hustler Donald Glover.
Like I love that because I now, as of March 13th, 2026, still get to have that up here
and play around with it.
And then once the movie is out, I can never have that again.
So once the first trailer is out, then I'll have a new thing to percolate on.
But up until that trailer, I get to have all this imagination.
So like, for me, the journey.
is the whole time from the day they announced the movie until I see it.
So they're all peaks for me until a bad trailer or a bad movie.
They're all peaks because it's only building anticipation.
I think those photos did better marketing than almost any trailer I've ever seen
because I got to see photos of Spider-Man like Jay Jonah Jameson.
Like that was awesome.
So I don't think it needs, but I think that we live in a trailer culture and I think
we live in a me, me, me, now, now culture.
So the internet's mad at a movie.
Well, I'd be surprised at it.
I still be surprised
of it flogged.
It's gonna make a billion dollars.
Yeah.
And movies don't make a billion dollars.
I don't say that flippantly.
This one is gonna make a billion dollars.
You feel like this one will actually make a billion?
I mean,
the ones before No Way Home came pretty close.
Yeah.
And I think we need Spider-Man now more than ever.
Like I think we need a solo character.
I think we want a street level.
I think we want something that is this wholesome Tom Holland is getting,
I love that also this looks like a professional still.
That's Tom Holland's personal bodyguard in the back.
I love that like this feels personal.
to the point with their Tom's bodycard is in the photo.
Like his brother shooting the thing,
Destin Daniel and McCretton's kid's first word was Spider-Man.
This whole thing feels like,
actually I'm going to use the bride.
This whole thing feels like the bride
where it's a family endeavor,
but in a way that feels on a $200 million scope.
Yeah.
It feels like a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man
just in the team behind it.
When the director's kids' first word is Spider-Man,
when the lead's brother is directing the behind-the-scenes footage
that's coming out,
when half the talk about the lead is whether or not
he got married to his MJ,
This thing feels like a family film, but it's huge.
I think that's amazing, and that's the marketing for me.
Well, then let's swing on to...
Ah!
Ah!
Swing on...
Swing!
Let's swing on over to a different subject then.
July 31st.
I was right.
It's four months away.
Lanterns.
Yes.
Let's talk about lanterns then.
Because the lanterns, normally, normally what I do when something is getting
discourse, as I go, okay, is it the social media,
platform or is it actually the the trailer itself? Because oftentimes I'll see something on a trailer
go on on Twitter and the trailer is getting bashed. But I'm like, it's fucking Twitter. So then I'll go
to YouTube and sure enough, it's not getting bashed. Lanterns on the other hand, I did see
that it was getting bashed on like every platform. Have you watched it? Yeah, I like the trailer.
Okay. I haven't had your thoughts yet. I personally liked it.
Okay.
I'm not as in like you.
I'm not the most like when it comes to comics, the cosmic stuff.
I'm a terrestrial guy.
It's never really been my,
yeah,
it's never really been my favorite part of it.
I don't know.
Of any comic medium of like I've never.
I like Green Lantern,
but I don't identify with cops of any type.
Like Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow is a rare thing for me to like truly love that much.
Yeah,
but most of the time I'm not the biggest fan of it.
And Lanterns was getting criticized.
for like, oh, it's the drab kind of lighting.
Everything feels dark.
There's no green.
There's nothing here that has familiar iconography outside of like you might see a ring here.
And to me, though, I was like, this looks like a good television show, though.
And so does it seem to you that, okay, so then what I'm saying, do you feel like fans would
rather D.C. sell them a good show or just reassure them with familiar iconography?
Do you?
Fans, the latter.
Yeah.
I it's it.
D.C.
is going to be such a hard thing to talk about forever.
Because there's no version of me.
Actually, here we go.
I am with you with the Lobo thing, but the Lobo thing wasn't put in a direct trailer.
And there was a moment when your your take on Lobo is my favorite take.
Because I couldn't put into words why I wasn't connecting with that little thing.
And I saw your take when I was somewhere.
I was in New York.
I was not here with you.
And I watched your take and I was like, yes, Greg gets it.
And it was so funny.
I think you were making love with your fiance.
I probably was.
When you watched my video.
Oh, Greg's got it.
My bestiche.
I often think of Greg, the main man when I'm making love my fiance.
That was so many lobo references while.
Anyway, but it was funny because the DC is.
Charlie in the chat's exploding.
So was I.
The problem is I really like Superman and I really liked Creature Commandos and I liked but didn't love Peacemaker.
But they've only put out those three things and I love True Detective.
So this take on lanterns is something else I'm looking forward to.
So I'm having a problem where I work for DC as DC Studio Showcase host and I haven't had anything I genuinely did not like.
And then Lobo came out and it was separate.
And I was like, no, the one time.
So I agree with you that Lobo shouldn't.
look like a guy wearing makeup.
The whole point is that he's alien.
But that is a perfect
misstep for something that's cosmic.
Like, if there was ever a setting,
it's Supergirl from make him fully embrace
the alien side to make them fully.
Like, that would be a time to go all the way.
And that's why I was like,
why doesn't this look right?
And that's why.
This to me is the opposite.
We did a very campy,
spacey, crazy Green Lantern.
And whether or not that movie is good or not is,
well, it's not good.
But it's also hard to
digest.
It's not something that's palatable.
Martin Campbell directed Casino Royale
and then Green Lantern.
Like, that movie is just the wrong
tone and type.
What?
Yeah, dude, that's a Martin Campbell film.
I didn't know that.
Green Lantern is the director
of one of the best bonds about Todd.
The Mask of Zorro's Martin Campbell.
That's a big,
I think also did the follow up to Masson's or.
People don't talk about that enough.
Like, that's a master director.
That did, it didn't work out.
So to me,
the issue is
the character
needs to be approachable.
And if you're
going to make the character
approachable,
then I think
making it terrestrial first
makes sense.
And I think
making a show
that's good first
so you're endeared
to the character
before he literally takes
flight makes sense.
So to me,
what are the good cop shows?
The ones that are
gritty and like contained.
I love,
one of the only sitcoms
I've,
not in the sitcom,
come. One of the only network TV shows I've liked in years is Lethal Weapon. And I love the movie. So I was shocked that I loved an adaptation that was so different. But that's network TV and it felt like it. The only way to make prestige TV with cop stuff, not only, but one of the best ways is this tone. So if you're doing space cops and you're doing something that needs to start with endearing you to the character, that's this trailer to me. Yeah. So like all of the ingredients work for me. Now, that being said, I understand how people that want, oh, uh, and wants to meet these characters already.
Like, I get why they're mad, but we don't need to keep appealing to comic fans because they're always going to show up.
They show up for the good, the bad, and the ugly.
We need to appeal to people that are watching HBO.
And this looks like an incredible HBO show, comma, that is adapted from the Green Lantern comics.
You mean Paramount Plus show?
No, I don't.
We'll see.
Tune in to find out, 2027.
But, like, whether, that's actually, that's a great example.
Paramount Plus, Landman and all the Taylor Sheridan stuff.
If you're trying to appeal to people outside of the comic book space,
make a good show.
Yeah.
But the people that are going to be yelling
are the people that are looking up
lanterns trailers first.
That's fair.
Because that is very true
because they will show up.
I don't think Landman fans are commenting
on YouTube videos.
It's a much different, yeah,
it's a much different,
it's a much different ass
because you're saying everyone will show up
with the good, the bad, and the ugly of the fans.
If this was a movie you had to pay to buy
to go see,
I do not think they would go to go to the theaters.
I think that's when you would segregate
a lot of the fan base.
Right.
Because they have to like,
leave and pay.
But if they already have a subscription,
or they can pirate it,
which I am not encouraging,
but we all know you do.
That is,
they would gladly check out the pilot,
needless to say.
Right.
And go, well,
I'm morbidly curious,
and then they'll see whether or not
they actually want to be invested.
Like,
I thought the trailer was good
because it did.
What to me,
DC was doing with this one
is they were selling us on tone,
character,
familiar VFX type of wallpaper,
which I appreciated personally,
because of someone who's not a zealot
when it comes to Green Lantern,
I was more than happy to sell it.
This appeals to my sensibilities.
I like true detective season of one kind of a lot.
These are the same guy I did Watchman, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I love the Watchman.
The guy that did Ozark, the guy that did.
So showrunner of Ozark, writer of Watchman,
Tom King, of Supergirl,
one of tomorrow like the writer of supergirls writing on the show well i think we're not looking at the
overall bigger strategy here especially is and it's telling that erin pierre was announced to be john
stewart and man of tomorrow the interconnectivity is already stronger to me than what marvel is starting
to get up to yeah i think thunderbolts was the first time i was like it does matter to stuart
that people want that that people are complaining about that it's not in this trailer that should be
present in the man of tomorrow movie then right so we should be able to have the
best of both worlds.
Also, you want these shows and movies to feel different.
It's so funny how the, so Supergirl trailer dropped.
Everybody's like, well, that's another James Gunn project.
This drops.
Like, why it doesn't look like a James Gunn project?
Yeah.
Make the thing feel like a different run of comics.
That's the beauty of comics is I want them to feel different.
I want them to feel like different artists.
I want them to feel like different writers.
I want it to feel like different worlds that can come together.
That's why the Avengers was so special because it felt like we were experiencing
Kenneth Branagh's Thor and the power of what John
did with Captain America and what we'd gotten with Iron Man
mashed up and the the Joss Whedon medley
felt like the different universes coming together.
I want this to feel separate from Superman
and then be excited when it comes together.
I think with the next trailer
will probably give us a little bit more green lanternisms.
If you look at, look at Peacemaker Season 1,
look at Watchmen.
Both of those shows start off just fucking
grounded real world.
But then as they progress,
they become more science fiction and more out there.
So much better for the day-to-day audience.
Definitely.
So, and I think this is what lanterns is going to do.
I'd be shocked if there was just like a drab gritty experience.
He flies in the trailer.
Yeah, I was so surprised.
Like they already like are planning the seats.
Yeah.
And people are like, oh, he mentions that he's the only human green lantern.
Maybe he hasn't met guy yet.
He mentions the squirrel green lantern and refers to him as a squirrel as opposed to his alien race.
Why would he refer to an alien race to a guy that just found?
now he's a Greenlander.
Like, there's so many little nitpicks that, like, we're going to get the context of in the show.
Yeah.
It's a trailer.
Yeah, I like the trailer.
And it's like, yeah, marketing just seems to be like all over the place.
And, and it, and the problem in marketing is it doesn't seem to translate anymore to viewership or.
There doesn't seem to be a direct line of, like, it's not anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah, there used to be a time where you can, like, really track it.
We've talked about that with reactions where it's like, is that worth reacting to?
Who knows?
Yeah.
Like, this trailer did well, is the movie got up?
I don't know.
Like, there's no, you really can't tell anymore now.
It's kind of wild.
I was surprised by how much the bride flopped just based off metrics alone.
Yeah, I'm really curious about the bride long term with like it's made to be a cult movie, but it's so expensive.
And I'm really curious what it does on video.
I'm really curious what it does like at home because it feels like it's made to be like a grind house movie.
It wasn't my thing.
I liked the swings it took.
They just didn't connect for me.
Like I wanted to like the bride more than I liked the bride.
But I wonder what that's ramifications are going to do with how poorly it did versus the trailers versus the hype.
There will be certain ramifications, absolutely.
Like, I don't know how many big swings.
But then the other side.
You had a good run.
I know you've turned my camera off.
But, you know, if there's anything we've learned from this,
we can't trust women with $90 million.
That's the lesson here.
And they shouldn't be directing.
I very much agree with Maggie Gillen.
I saw the, I saw a clip out of one of her interviews.
I didn't watch the whole thing.
But I feel like the clip out provided enough of the layers to get the entire context.
there's some interview that she was doing
where she was saying how they were addressing the fact
that less than 10% of directors are women
and normally a female director
will get, they don't get the big movies,
they don't get the big budget ones,
but whenever they do get a big budget movie,
it's this whole fucking ordeal
that it's a woman doing it.
So there's a lot more like at stake
when a woman's doing it.
And I'm like, it's so true.
Then it does become,
there is a part,
There's a pocket of the conversation that does become about the fact that it was a woman who did this.
And that is reciprocated on even our side because when I didn't like the marvels, it was sexist, not me not liking the movie.
When I didn't like Agatha, it was because I'm an asshole, not because I didn't connect to the camp.
Like, it is really tricky because when there is an association, you also get, like, lumped into a certain group.
And that's really messy.
Like, I was watching the bride wanting to like it and didn't.
and I was the whole time thinking like, man, I love Maggie Gyllenhaal,
and I really wanted this to be for me,
but like that's not going to change my experience of the film.
I was right.
I haven't seen it.
I'd rather be wrong.
I'm more surprised by your opinion of it.
I thought for sure.
I was like,
Koi convinced himself,
this is great before he watched it.
I love the trailer,
and therefore I'll leave happy.
Well,
it's a good Rochech test.
I've had a different thing lately.
I think it was brought on by the one-two punch of,
uh,
28 years later of the bone temple.
The Bride and Project
Tale Mary all, I saw them all within like two months.
And the Bone Temple was such a different
film from 28 years later, but I loved it equally.
And that was really cool because I didn't think I'd like something more linear
that was in the same world.
That was still like that the Bone Temple was way more palatable
than the first 28 years later.
But I still liked it a lot.
So I was like, oh, maybe it doesn't need to be this crazy,
hard to palette thing for me to enjoy it.
And then the bride came out.
And I was like, ooh, I don't find this palatable at all.
And like, this isn't working for me.
And then Project Tell Mary, I love.
And I was like, well, shit, if I reviewed these all in the same strata, people wouldn't realize how much more I love.
I love Bone Temple and Project Tell Mary.
So I'm really working on, I want to stay someone that talks about art positively, but I need there to be constraints that people understand when I'm in love with something versus when I'm liking something.
So like, my scale is changing in real time.
And I think that's also my emotional connectivity to art post-Spitey.
Like, I've cried so much more in the last two months, and I've been so much more introspective, and I've been working out in a different way.
And I'm also, like, way more aware of my mortality.
So things are affecting me as a person that's affecting my view of art.
So the bride might just be the first movie since Spidey Cat that I didn't connect to.
So I'm like, oh, I need to reframe how I articulate that to others.
I think I need to be more honest with myself and with art in order to connect to the people I want to connect to.
That's a good point.
It's good realization.
I'm glad you're learning and reflecting.
That's really awesome.
What this show is for.
This is our episode, motherfuckers.
Yep.
We will get to all the super chats.
We're going to close them out right when we're done with this next topic.
I don't know if we have any or little or a lot.
We will, we're going to close them out.
So if we want to get any questions in, we'll make sure we go through all them.
Just get them all in right now in the next few minutes as we go through our very last subject here,
which will be a short one.
There's going to be a Marvel reunion at the Oscars, Coy.
So apparently, they have a fish.
announced a presenter lineup that's going to include R.D.J. Chris Evans. Gwyneth Paltrow.
Who doesn't know she's in the Marvel University? Petra Pascal. And Channing Tatum, along with several others.
And Oscars-related coverage has said that it's going to tease a Marvel-themed segment for the superhero fans.
Just like when Zach Snyder's Justice League, one audience cheer moment for their streaming movie at home.
What the audience went.
Me and my friend watched it on our couch and we screamed.
What do you think?
I was different.
I love Snyder.
It's such a weird one of all of Zach Steiner's movie.
The timing was crazy.
What do you think about this promotional thing?
Do you think they're using the Oscars for some type of hype beat?
Do you feel like it's a smart cross-promotion?
Do you feel like it's evidence at all that the brand now needs some major external event?
to generate heat. What do you think? I think it is continuing the bold marketing that
Doom's Day is doing. I have been the most vocal person, unfortunately, that is saying that
the Doom thing worries them. And it's been exhausting because I want to be honest about my feelings
towards the Doom character. But every single other thing they've done for Doom's Day, I have been
all about. Like, I think they're really killing it with marketing. I think they've gotten me more
hype for that. There's one, the asterisk is huge, but there's only one thing that is keeping me not from
full, oh my God, Doomsday. And there's a lot. And there's a lot of,
And the rest is doing it for me.
I love the vignettes.
I love what they're doing with like little teases.
So I think this is great marketing without giving us more footage.
I think it does all the things you want it to do, which is like, look at those people I like that I don't think of standing together, stand together, which is what you love about parts of the movie.
And it also is reminding you that you're excited for Doomsday seven, no, nine months out while not giving any new footage necessarily.
I think it's a really smart marketing move.
I also think on the Oscar side, it could either be perfect or it could be Steve Boucher.
me carrying a skateboard. Like, it's going to go one way
together. Do you, do you think
they'll have a trailer? I think they might show a little
bit of footage, but I don't know if they need
to. Like, look at those people standing
together. It's already exciting. Well, I think
the lineup of who they've officially announced
is smart, because
they're all very famous people.
Yes. Who would attend anyway?
R.D.J. just won an Oscar. So that's a good,
that's a good pull right there. But it's also
doing, like Robert Diamond Jr., our new villain,
but also the man who started the MCU,
sevens,
uh,
he's back in America,
the lead of it.
He's,
he's returning.
Gwyneth Paltrow as the romantic side of it,
Pedro Pascal,
the new era and America's daddy.
And Channing Tatum is the,
the era for forgotten,
broader multiverse side,
you know.
He's like,
oh, look how well this turned out because we undid a wrong.
Like to me he feels like,
oh, look at the multiverse working.
Yeah,
it's a good,
it's a good lineup.
And I don't know what impact it'll have,
but I think this is the kind of thing that they create for a social
media thing.
That's why I could be,
how do you do fellow kids or could work?
Yeah, not the televised event.
I don't think I'll do much for the televised event.
Unless I do a special promo or a trailer or something.
Then it's going to be,
I mean,
they're going to do that selfie like the old Oscars with Bradley Cooper and all those other people.
People will be like,
who owns that selfie?
And it'll cause legislation.
Yeah.
But I think what's interesting about this setting is the Oscars should be our Super Bowl.
Yeah.
It should be a big thing.
And instead of putting a doomsday trailer at the Super Bowl,
how great would it be it if it was at the Oscars?
Yeah.
What if we did things for promoting?
movies that promoted movies.
Like, what if we did things in-house?
And this could be the start of that, because this
Doomsday trailer is going to break the internet.
I would love, it's a little early,
I think, to do a Doomsday trailer in March
for December. But I think it'd be a great
opportunity to give Oscars some views.
We said there's like a giant, I mean,
it's Avengers, so it's very different.
Like, there's a real conversation happening
around Doomsday, and it doesn't seem to stop, though,
you know? Yeah, that's what I mean. I think that's fucking
amazing. Like, I don't really feel like there's a Daredevil
season two coming out, which is kind of
weird.
We are watching that soon.
That is on TV.
It feels like it's this year.
Before the month is over.
Yeah, it feels like it's this year, not this month.
Watching that movie.
That show.
And Spider-Man, I'm like, I don't quite feel like it's coming.
But Avengers, I'm like, there's an Avengers movie coming.
I am aware of that.
I'm pretty plugged into Spider-Man because I love those photos so much that I was like,
oh, I'm actually going to look at paparazzi photos for the first time.
I usually avoid them.
And every time there's been anything.
that's like a rumor of a villain,
I found myself feeling like 2014 again
where I was like,
they can do that in movies.
Like I've gotten that same childlike hype.
So I think Spider-Man marketing
is working for me,
but I get that that's personal.
I can see where your experience is also true.
Yeah.
Whereas Doomsday is my truth.
Undeniable.
Well, guys, are you excited for this?
I'm so excited.
The award show is going to be a blast.
We've got to cover it live?
Every year.
Please don't make me sick.
I try, guys.
Award show fans, all seven of you, I try every year.
I will look up Conan's monologue and highlights of his jokes,
and I will watch the award speeches I care to watch.
Our friend Jasmine is so excited.
She decorated her entire house like Oscars and has a little filming area of giant red curtains,
and I'll probably watch there so I can have production quality.
What songs are performing?
K-pop and Miles Canton.
Oh, man, the K-pop one.
That's a smart call.
And the Miles Canton, the dude from the sinners.
the
Oh yeah
His tiny desk
John did you see
His tiny desk
I have not yet
Oh shit
Oh dude
All right
Miles can't tiny desk
Yeah
Sensational
All right alright
All right
We should move on then
Got to keep this train
O'Rollin
There's gonna be a day
Where Greg can't make the pod
And we're gonna hire a producer
To do John's job
And we're just gonna do a music pod
Yeah you and me
It'll be 2035
But it's gonna be great
You and be great guys
Yes
We'll have Alex
Run the ones and two
Everyone's going to love everything about that.
And we're going to get so many super chats.
All right.
I'm going to close the super chats.
Close out the super chats.
It's a moment of truth.
I understand the implications.
And we are going to...
What's like the...
Do we have a quantity amount?
Let's like a time this.
Just of minutes that we have left to live.
All right, cool.
Let's do it.
I see the first one there.
March 12, we got Mitch.
Mitch.
Mitch.
We jump in.
Thank you, Mitch.
Thank you, Mitch.
Thank you, Mitch.
Thank you, Mitch.
All right, here we go.
Let's get that super chat screen up here really quickly.
All right.
So what do we get?
What do we got?
Oh, God, bitch.
Off topic.
But would you ever rewatch Breaking Bad on the channel to give your updated feelings and see how it resonates with you?
Love you guys.
Maybe down the road.
I have been thinking about how to make the commentary stand out a little bit more because we eventually
do have to evolve from not solely just reactions.
So we have to evolve from that.
Watch our X-Men movies.
Even today, I was thinking, like, maybe we should actually pause and talk.
Oh.
I don't think we do that.
We did that for Superman.
I remember enjoying that process, but it made the editing more difficult.
Yeah, I was going to say the sync is impossible.
Yeah.
So, like, we can't do a watch-alogue for Patreon.
But, like, would we make it more engaging video, though, if we could just actually pause it.
And like, sometimes like when we're watching stuff, I might see something and I'm like, oh, this is actually set up this thing in the future, but I don't want to like over talk a bunch of things.
Yeah.
So if we really get to that point, we're like a rewatch that is more informative or has more substance to that degree that we can do that where people will tune in, then that's definitely an option.
I'm trying to get people to watch it here who have not seen Breaking Bad because I would love to see a reaction to Breaking Bad here.
My favorite show of all time.
anything Breaking Bad, I'm all in.
Whether we wait another 10 years and do like a 20th and every,
like when it's been long enough that it is almost fresh or like a new set of eyes,
I'd love that show.
Yeah,
it's my favorite show.
I've also never seen Better Call Saul.
So it'd be fun to do Better Call Saul into Breaking Bad to rewatch it from the context of,
because I've never seen Better Call Saul.
That would be new.
And then Breaking Bad would be like with the context of Saul.
That'd be fun.
But I haven't seen it.
I'll compose a whole edit where we take the Breaking Bad flashbacks,
Better Call Saul.
And I'm going to do a timeline order version.
for us to watch. Tofer grace it up.
Tofer grace, I mean, no, Tover Grace,
it's trimmed down.
Do the Buffy Angel thing.
Give me the Snyder cut of breaking bat.
But thanks for that. Super Chat, Mitch. Appreciate you.
I see Ethan T's name.
So it's better be a better man conversation
in here. Uh-oh, Ethan T.
No better man this week.
He's giving up hope.
No, there we go.
That's what I wanted.
Anyway, no better man this week.
Even though I'm still praying with all my heart,
just wishing you guys.
health, wealth, and happiness.
Appreciate that, Amigo.
Very kind of you.
And we wish it right back on you.
Maybe we'll do better, man.
Who knows?
Mason, maybe.
Maybe.
Let's see.
Mason Korea is next.
Appreciate you, chime in.
John and Greg Podwen.
Give me a link, I won't tell.
John and Greg,
oh, yeah, when's that pod here?
Yeah, I get that thing released.
God damn.
I'm pissed off.
It's not relevant.
to our lives anymore.
It's got nothing to do with our waking reality
any longer. This is me happy.
This is me pissed.
Greg's an actor. I have variation.
You need one of those t-shirts
that's just all the same face of you
with every different emotion listed underneath
it in a grid.
Yeah, maybe we should not go live on Fridays.
Well, this is the time when everybody's live.
Oh, yeah? Well, it's because all the news.
We're summarizing the week.
You wait for a gathering of news.
Yeah, like when else would we do it?
Monday with the news is all the week old.
That is true.
Last week, one day at a time.
Yeah, like, it'd be very hard to do on a Wednesday because that it's like half of last week's news and a little bit of this week's news.
I mean, we're trying something now here where we're just trying to do an actual topic.
You know, like the old days?
Yeah.
I love it.
I had fun.
I had fun too.
Yeah, that's what matters.
That's what matters.
That's something anyway.
You got to prioritize profit.
Yeah, that's why it's part of it matters.
Arca.
Archa.
Thank you for chiming in.
Update from last stream.
22nd birthday went well.
Awesome.
Going to do something this weekend.
What's your guy's weekend plans?
Anything for St. Patrick's Coy?
It's Patty's Day this weekend?
It is the 17th, good sir.
It is mere days away.
So St. Patty's Day this year is, I think, honestly,
my first sober St. Patty since I was 13.
I'm on a cut, and I am very aware that
Not only is every shot roughly 100 calories,
but it actually slows your metabolism
and changes the way that your digestive incense work for four days after.
So it would be a very big calorie surplus,
and it would slow my progress the following week.
So unfortunately, I have chosen gains over glugs,
and I am very sad about it,
but the next day is my fiancé's birthday,
which I will also be sober for.
But I'm going to try to find fun things to do
that aren't going to honor my heritage.
No glug,
March, man. I've only drank once in the calendar year, 2026.
What was the occasion?
I think I wanted to prove to myself I could drink without crying.
Like, Spidey Cat had passed and I was like, oh, okay, I was going to say.
No, no, I just, I hadn't drank and Spidey Cat had passed and I was like, if I let this control
me in the other way, then it might become a problem if I just drink one.
Like, I was afraid of like keeping it all together and then one day drinking me like,
I was like, do we need to have like a beer in hand for you for every reaction?
action where we need you to cry.
Yeah, dude.
It might help.
But no, I drank to prove I had control.
It was more of like a proof of concept for myself.
Cool.
I get it.
Yeah, like I just had to know.
I get you.
I actually do get it.
Suddenly six months in if I have a drink and I'm like, and then my wedding.
When I did my cut last year, the first two months of it, I was like high every day just
to prove I could have self-control.
Really?
Yeah, because now, now that's gone.
Like, no, now when I, I don't smoke that often.
so now when I do smoke, I'm like,
fucking give you everything I can eat right now.
I get super hungry, and I have a hard
time not caving it. The challenge
itself is fun, but it's been a really like,
this cut's been the hardest cut of my life.
So that's because when I stopped being hot, and I was like,
okay, now I'm not going to smoke weed.
And then I gave up, but then it was like fucking easy to commit to.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fucking so simple.
Because this, I mean, I'm down 12 pounds, which I'm proud of,
and I'm up two pounds of muscle, which is impossible to two
while on a cut.
But it's been harder than anything I've ever done physically.
and I haven't had the progress that I would.
Like the other hard stuff happened faster because I'm 37.
So it's been really hard mentally to be like,
I'm three months in and this is where we are.
Like that's been a challenge.
So I don't want to add the deterrent of drinking.
It does slow it down, man.
Yeah.
It does.
It's fucking weird because I'm like,
I wanted another run last night.
I'm like, as long as I could run.
I've never been into running the way I'm into running now.
And I'm like, I'm faster and I can go longer.
But, you know, I've been maintaining like the same weight
and I have drank more.
Like I'm usually having like a,
drink a few drinks.
I'm gonna...
I'm gonna...
It does affect you, yeah.
Well, Bachelor Party and I'm gonna drink,
but I also think that I'll make it more special.
Like, yeah.
If I don't drink till Bachelor Party,
then it's not just a weekend of drinking.
It's like, oh, an occasion.
Yeah.
And then I'll have to recover from that
and the wedding I'm gonna drink.
But this weekend,
I've got a big old run plan for Saturday.
I'm gonna clean my house.
I'm approaching middle age.
Where are you doing this weekend, John?
I just discovered St. Patrick's Day is coming up.
I forgot the Oscars.
on Sunday.
So maybe something to do with
those things. I don't know.
I might try and go catch House of Kong.
Nice.
Yeah. The cool
guerrillas immersive art exhibit.
Otherwise, I will figure it out
as I go.
In true John fashion.
He'll be their last, but he'll be
their last at the end too. We got a cool
gaming event thing
tomorrow, Andrew, Aaron.
John Materan and myself.
Yeah.
That'll be something neat to look out for on the socials.
You guys are on assignment.
What are you doing, G?
No, we are there for the assignment of fun.
What are you doing?
What's your waking, Greg?
I gotta go to a birthday party for some kid I hate.
I wish I had a camera for you.
I hate that kid.
Three's the worst age anyway.
Gosh, she's not going to.
even remember and I have I have to work on um I have to work on the channel quite a bit actually
there's a lot of a lot of things I got to work on that's going to take a lot of time so I got to do that
before the party a little bit after and then most of my Sunday would be committed to that I live
stream every Saturday now for the same reason we do Friday for like the catch-up of the news week and
it really changes like weekends because I'm like I can't drink Friday because I'm live-stream
Saturday and then I end up working all day Saturdays then Sundays just like getting stuff
done.
Like, I don't really have weekends anymore because of the choice to do Saturday, but it's like,
oh, yes, the weekend and at St.
Paddy's Day.
Yep, we're older now.
We're killing it.
To life's credit, a lot of the time I will find myself, like, I have a big work weekend,
all this stuff that's not filming.
And then I might go out on a Saturday.
And I'm like, ah, fuck it.
Let's have a few drinks and smoke some weeks that I still end up indulging.
Yeah.
But then the Sunday is like, no, fucking punish yourself in the recovery.
Sweat it out.
Don't eat for 16 hours.
You gotta indulge sometimes.
Once in a while.
But 22.
In moderation.
22 is none of these things.
22, you should live because your body can recover.
Pour yourself out.
Yeah.
Make choices.
Be a prostitute.
Get pregnant.
Have uncomfortable conversations with your family.
Wear a condom or make him either way, but have fun.
Yeah, do something.
Everyone gets a condo.
Yeah.
Get into a hit and run.
Anyway, so what's the next question?
receive a recipient are they running a trash
what's happening
anyway next question all the above all right here we go
thank you
ark
uh sebastian yuns
let's go
love you guys per usual
who friday
thank you sebastian
thank you sebastian
boston you're freaking
i love the zeal chat if we did a live event
in burbank california would you guys come to it
would you fly to berbbing
type yes or no in the chat
we should ask that question every week
And then never do one.
No, no, we just do it.
Every week.
Is it going to get enough?
We got to build.
We got to condition everyone here to be like, I do want to see them live.
Yeah.
I do want to go there.
Live events are my jam.
You need to start every show with like an improv round of suggestions.
Yeah.
Give us a location.
Epstein Island.
What's something you were reading recently?
The Epstein files.
What's one thing you hate?
Messy redactions.
Anyway, thank you, Sebastian.
Appreciate you.
Diego Guevada.
Appreciate you.
Hey, man.
These DDBA teasers have been fucking insane.
Don't want to watch any more.
We're going to watch a show soon.
I just finish my rewatch and born again.
Rewatch Homework.
That's a good show.
It's a good show.
I think I liked it more than the rest of us on the first walk, but on the second watch,
I'm like, this is fantastic.
I liked it more on my rewatch.
Yeah?
Okay, good.
Because I remember you being a little, you were a little reluctant.
I think it works better as a binge, personally.
Interesting, okay.
I do think it works better as one hole versus a week to week.
Okay.
I mean, a lot of the flaws that I found with it still remain,
but I definitely, I get its intentions much more on a rewatch.
And I do think season two will probably be really great.
It is sad how there is, I don't feel the hype for it.
It's kind of crazy.
Outside of Diego Guevarez, Super Chad, I don't feel the hype for it.
What's interesting is we talked about marketing earlier,
but I don't know what the solutions are,
but I'm not in marketing.
But I'm very aware that they have been marketing it.
I just don't feel it.
Well, the lack of hype,
because it was Dared of a Born Again season one was hype.
Yeah.
That was really hyped up.
And I think the mixed response on it is very, very clear.
As much as some people don't like hearing that
or don't want to contend with that and be like,
you don't fucking know comics.
That that is so true by the fact that season two
definitely does not have that same level of anticipation.
or hype because I think there was so much desire for this is this is the sad reality I think a lot of
people have to contend with is the sub a big subjective but you can also see that it's definitely
the conversation that's happened is there was so much pining and fighting to get daredevil back but
with daredevil back that's also let's get Wilson Fisk back let's get kingpin back and it's not just
we fought for that then we got daredevil board again like
Charlie Cox's cameo and Spider-Mineaua home was great.
Wilson Fiske, on the other hand, that's when I think the erosion started to happen,
you know, Hawkeye.
That's why Hawkeye's so low on my TV list is because I think it really hurt the multiverse.
It really hurt Wilson Fiss, which in turn hurts Daredevil.
Yeah.
And then I think, and then, of course, Echo as well affected.
And yeah, there is something when I watch this new season, I'm like, he's doing all the Wilson
Fist stuff, but I do think there's a way you have to.
to literally frame Kingpin to make, to give the aura and the imposingness and the stature that I think
the Netflix shows knew how to really do. The way you shoot Wilson Fiske specifically is how you do it.
And I do think he gets stronger in the last couple of episodes, which ironically enough is Justin
Aaron. Yeah, we have me hope for the season two. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I think he does get like much
stronger. And I like the ending of how I like how ugly the world is of Born Again. Like it's, it's super scuzzy.
and
the fact that he's like controlling the police
and everything, I like where it ends a lot.
Yeah.
So yeah, I know some people
like fucking hate that show
and I like them more on the rewatcher.
I'm excited for the Punisher show too
or the special presentation.
Yeah.
Which is also this year.
Punisher show is going to be so good.
Red.
Let me ask you some red.
My son.
I really hope he says
he has to tell me something in Odyssey.
I really do.
Got to get my punisher special.
Let's tell all his name in that movie
Let me tell you about this horse
Let me tell you about these trojans
Let me tell you some I face this
Weird nose Odysseus
Can't wait
It's psychops
Let me ask you some
Must is John Berthal's acting
In the headshake
Yeah
But I love him
No no no no
He's one of those actors
Like he does John Berndthal
But he does it so well
Like I love the John Bernthal flavor
Enough that I'm okay with it
Yeah no no
He's always
But he's such a lot of
like a bro in interviews, man.
Oh, do you be such a vibe?
Yeah, I, you know, I really find myself to be that cool of a guy.
I've talked to him in person like three times and every time I'm like, why are you the most
likable?
But then on camera, you're like, I'm a fucking killer.
I'm an actor.
I'm down here.
Because it's like one thing and the opposite and John Berthel.
But on I'm interview and I'm like an Los Angeles sounding guy.
I'm also a great listener.
I'm really good.
I'm pensive.
I focus.
I'm with you kid.
But now I'm acting.
It's a real missed opportunity.
he didn't call his podcast, let me ask you something.
Oh my God!
You're right!
Real ones is great and all, but
just saying.
Anyway,
has watched the whole show,
reads the comics,
all that stuff.
He has read the comics.
That part was true.
I fell off the show.
I'm sorry.
Daredevil for me!
I would say,
the thing is,
I know Invincibles.
It's because you have a,
sometimes in aversion to animation,
properties in terms of
I just don't connect the medium
I connect differently
so that that's what a lot of it comes down to
now as a fan of both
I'm already like invincible is always great
it's gonna be great I don't have to worry about
it's fucking invincible even when it has like a slump
of a little episode here there it's always fucking great
Daredevil Bourne again on the other hand
I'm more excited for because this is something
where I think they have to do some correction
you know yeah and I think them being in control
I'm more intrigued by
what a whole show of theirs looks like.
I would love to personal, like,
I know a lot of people, I mean,
you've talked with them,
you've interviewed Charlie Cox and Vincent O'Frio.
I would love to, like,
interview Charlie Cox and then do a deep dive on it.
I feel like no one asks about the Catholic side.
And I would have, like,
I feel like I'd have so many questions
about the Catholic side of Matt Murdoch.
As a devout Catholic guy,
I had a lot of questions
about how he handled it and the guilt.
I feel like people shy away from the questions,
and I'm like,
it's such a big part of Matt Murdoch.
Yeah.
I just wouldn't have it,
like,
I ask you all the time, like, what's that mean?
Like, I would, it was such a, my thing was coming from a place of, like, the, the physicality.
And I really love talking to him because I know a stunt double.
So it was really cool to hear, like, when they would change off and, like, how he handled that aspect of dare double.
Because usually actors aren't as involved as Charlie Cox's.
Yeah.
But it was cool talking to Donofrey about turtles.
He didn't know Teenage Vin'Nin' Turtles was the same ooze.
I got to tell Kingpin that he's candid with the turtles.
That's fucking cool.
And I would like to talk to him about them both.
I would be, I want to ask about how they developed those.
voice for both of those characters.
It was really interesting looking back on that interview because I was talking to them right
as they had just canceled the original version and they were going back to film the one that came
out.
So I was talking to them when they knew what the show was going to be, but also were just leaving
the old one.
So they were like dancing two worlds of not answering.
And Marvel was physically at the panel on the side of the stage and I'd never had that
happened before.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
It was intense.
It was an hour of being like Feigeed.
Good interview.
He wasn't there.
Good interviews.
Good interviews.
Thanks to the question.
Appreciate you, George.
All righty.
Look, we got Captain Fernandez.
Chiming in the discourse, quote, unquote,
surrounding the various Oscars nominees
has convinced me they need to air them much earlier.
It's been way too toxic this year.
Thanks, Captain Fernandez, for chiming in here.
And what exactly do you think they mean by air them earlier?
Just how late in the year it is.
There's been a longer campaign season.
because you put out the Oscar movies like November, December.
So this is like five months now of time.
I think the part of the thing is people have had time to get bored and look for stuff.
What is your favorite of the Oscar nominated Best Pictures?
Oh, one battle after another.
And then Train Dreams and then Sinners are all movies that I'd be happy if they won.
Train Dreams is like my sleeper.
It broke me.
Like that's one of the most emotionally connected I've felt to a film.
And then one battle after another.
So one battle after another felt like if I stayed a,
Boston college anarchist liberal violent person that I wanted to become and usually you're not very good at it.
And that to me felt like Leo. Leo felt like what fumbling anarchist I could have been. And then train dreams feels like my heritage. Like my great grandfather was a lineman up the Appalachian Mountains. And like it was crazy to watch train dreams because I felt like Joel Adderton was playing someone my grandfather would know. So I really connected to my ancestry through train dreams and I really connected to my other future through.
One battle.
I have been itching and rewatch one battle.
John and Andrew just had a reaction go up this morning.
Oh.
And you could tell how strong audiences are in this Oscar season.
But coming in is a 10 of 10.
Oh, no.
Really?
No.
Wow.
This is the people are like, why are you taking so long?
Because I knew it would be a 10 of 10.
That's crazy.
I was trying to do it closer to the Oscars because maybe they're going to be a
hype.
Sinners is like one of the most timeless movies we've had up for Best Picture.
I think that movie's going to stand the test of time.
In 10 years, we'll still talk about sinners.
But I just was so connected to those two that if any three of those win, I'm happy.
How about you?
This very well could just be because it's the most recent one I saw.
I didn't have much anticipation for Marty Supreme.
I'm not generally not, out of everything I said about Timothy Shalame.
I'm generally not in love with his work.
I've always liked his work, but I've never been like over the moon.
He's been one of those guys who's like, why is he so, you know,
the next Decapeo or wherever the fuck yet i i never quite connected with him then again there's so
many movies that's his i haven't seen that one where he's like a drug addict of steve carrell
wherever the one that's called beautiful boy beautiful boy i think that yeah you might be right about
that uh so yeah i i've never fully loved it but it was it blew me away by how fucking like
effective it was and that has been like my one of my favorite it's like my no it's still anything
but i would say that was like my favorite of the oscar movies and it is my favorite of the
favorite performance of of the year personally okay that being said michael b jordan winning i like yes that is
like it was it's a bit of a toss up for me if michael bjordan wins i'm like yeah fucking go for it
yeah more than happy if you want i'd be thrilled if he wins he absolutely it's an interesting conversation
though but michael bick jordan because he's nominated for two people right right and he's incredible
of both the conversation is like is one of those performances as strong as timothy shallamaze or is it the
the fact that they're putting in two, you know,
uh,
it shouldn't matter that we're counting two different characters though, you know,
I found,
do you know what I found smoke and stack more memorable than Marty Supreme and he's the
title character. Oh, really? Okay. So for me,
when I think of sinners, I'd think of how impressive it was that smoke and stack had different
goals, mannerisms, arcs, perspectives. And so those two performances I find more
memorable than Marty Supreme who is the entirety of that film. Like,
Marty Supreme is the whole movie to the point. Like, Marty Supreme is the whole movie to the
point where he is making the wrong decision every time and everyone is suffering for it.
I love that.
And that was hard for me to connect to because I've, that's what I love it.
He's so fucking, he's the worst person.
Like, yeah, like, I would, I would want to hurt him.
Yeah.
And smoke and stack are in a horrible situation doing mostly the right thing, even in the wrong
situation.
Like, they're in the situation that they couldn't get out of.
Marty put himself in situations that made his life worse and ruined everyone's life around
him.
So I get that's the point of the movie.
I just didn't connect to that as a person that wants to, like, cause harm to those people.
Like, I think we need to hurt those people.
I, I, you're, yes, 100%.
I have that weird, I'm that audience member that, like, oh, man, if you get me to weirdly root for a guy I really shouldn't be rooting for, like, at all, like, almost no redeeming qualities.
Like, smoke and stack have some redeeming qualities.
Yeah, yeah.
That's the beautiful thing about their situation.
Even like when they shoot a guy in the ass to make a point, but they're like, well, here's some money.
Yeah.
Like they have red.
They're still doing this because you can feel that this is for like their community here.
You know, so there is a redemption quality.
Whereas like Marty Supreme weaponizes it being Jewish to try to do this better.
It was not doing anything for like a Jewish community or something like that.
I think it's the funniest performance.
I think Marty Supreme's hilarious.
I really, but after all the interviews I saw.
Not in a bad way.
I think it's hilarious like on purpose.
Okay.
Out of all the interviews I would see of him and hearing the.
hype. The last thing I expected to do was only see Marty and not see Timothy Chalame. And because of that,
I was like, oh, wow, I'm fucking like, you were in. Yeah, I was mesmerized. It was the only time I've
swept up in like, I only see a character. And I saw two different, like, I didn't see Michael
Jordan. I saw two different people and didn't see Michael B. That is, that should not be discounted.
So to me, that was like fucking them passing the cigarette to each other. And you feel like there's,
there are two different people in the room. And it's so easy to acclimate to like so quick. And they
cut to one of them 20 minutes in the movie and I know which one like at no point was I like was at smoker stack like I was in and then I love the ending I love the use of post credit format for one of them without getting away and I also think the film is one of those is one of those is one of those movies that will be more reverent to as time goes on definitely and it's already reverend oh it's the most it's undoubtedly like in terms of like what's a film that's important yeah sinners is one of those like of what it's done for Ryan Coogler what he did with the deal culturally speaking the fact that
that it's a box office hit, the horror genre.
Like on almost every level, I feel like sinners,
I would,
sinners is not my favorite movie the year yet.
I feel like it,
one battle after another feel,
it looks like it's going to win.
One battle is my favorite movie and I'm still rooting for sinners if that is the,
that's the thing.
It's like it's not my favorite movie of the year.
It's one of my favorites,
but it's not my top 10 as well.
It's not my personal top.
But I am actually hoping that one wins over the others.
I feel like it is the most impactful.
and significant one of them all.
It's what's tricky about like people ask what my,
and I'm going to make a video one day.
Like I have 25 movies that are five star, right?
Like there are, in my opinion,
25 movies that I've given that perfect impossible five star two.
I don't think they're perfect,
but they're the closest to perfection's impossible.
But there are movies that are four and a half star movies for me
that are my favorite over those.
Like a Knight's Tale is higher than some of my five star film
and it's four and a half because of my connection
and my journey with it.
And that's the same with Oscars.
Like if Sinners gets best picture over one battle,
even though it's lower on my list,
I still go like, well, best picture.
Yeah, yeah.
So the layers of sinners are unmatched.
The fact that the fact that you can watch it without even under,
without even like mining a lot of the whatever cultural nuances,
like the amount of times I've heard videos,
FD Signifier has talked so much about sinners that it has like so many layers
because I'm not a black person.
I haven't had the, you know, black culture experiences.
I don't know if you know this.
I'm not black.
We're learning something about Greg today.
Let me explain some stuff to you.
Oh.
But the way how it, when people dissect it and I hear like like a commentator, like FD signifier,
break it down like, oh shit, I never knew that.
Like I feel like I literally got like an enhanced educational experience from it.
And I fucking loved it right out of the gate without knowing all these that really
understanding all these additional layers.
Yeah.
So that's that's the kind of film that I really do.
Actually, might be one.
I'm talking about, like, maybe it is more like my top to you.
I definitely want to rewatch it because I got it on 4K and I want to watch it like pristine.
And I remember loving it when we saw it.
But I also like, I think one battle and other is just emotional connection is making it hard for me to separate my view versus the movie.
Yeah.
Because I just connected so much with that movie's everything.
Like one battle just felt so personal.
Like one of those movies where I was like, how did they make something that is so my shit?
Yeah.
And same with train dreams, which I didn't expect.
to be riveted by. It was like a Netflix movie. It got acquired by Netflix, but I wasn't expected
to turn on Netflix and be like, this will change me. I'll say it. I saw the trailer. I haven't been
compelled to watch it. Dude, it's so good. But it looks like a movie I'm going to have to like,
all right. Let's get in serious mode. I've seen it three times. I loved it. It's like reading
a book that will change your life. And that is in both good and bad format. Like you're going
to have to digest it, but it's sensational. It is unanimously the movie this season that people
have gone out of their way to be like, I threw this on. And yeah, that's sort of like,
I felt like I had to be in the mood for it. But like, it is. It is, it is.
really impacted.
I never touched my phone.
I think about it
probably once a week.
It changed my perspective
of how I navigate time
and it's just so beautiful.
It's special.
It feels like a poem.
It feels like the first time
you discover Kerouac or Hemingway.
It's so unique in its voice.
It's so good.
Traindry.
Who's Carowack and Hemingway?
They're a talk show host.
They'll return in Avengers Doomsday.
You'll find out with the new Avengers.
You'll meet them in Doomsday.
Carowack is a
Pokemon.
Okay, sorry, let's move.
All right.
Thank you, Captain Fernandez.
Do we have enough for clipouts?
Have we done our job, prop?
We've done our job.
Now let's breeze through these.
All right.
Gillian Guerrero.
Oscar clips or Jules.
You got your choice in how you address Julian here.
All right, goodings day to you all.
Always enjoy listening to the live stream before work.
A little random.
But have you guys seen the show Everwood?
I recently checked it out and loved it all.
The Love from Canada isn't Everwood the one with the freaking small soldiers
Small soldiers kid yeah and the guy who replaced in the substitute sequel oh wow have you seen
the substitute I have not seen any substitute we need to bring back substitute teacher movies
What is the substance is a boy? There is a boy good that's the subgenre on missing most coach movies and substitute teacher movies
I had a lot of coach movies aren't my childhood there was so much yeah yeah coach Carter was the type of
Where's the coach movies and where's the substitute teacher?
We are Marshall.
What has happened?
The lack of education and the lack of education movies.
And the lack of coaching.
Half Nelson.
Yeah.
That's what.
That's a really dark movie.
It really is.
I love that movie.
I almost mentioned my interview and I was like, I'm not going to take this distinction.
I don't want to bring up.
Lars and the real girl was as close as I got.
Yeah.
I've never seen everyone.
I haven't either.
Sorry.
I just remember it being, oh, the kid from small soldiers.
And Gostling plays a teacher in Project Hell Mary, if that helps.
That's cool.
We'll have to check it out.
Stephen McQueen was...
Stephen, there's a...
Okay, not Steve McQueen, who's in Vampire Diaries.
I briefly knew him for like the littlest bit,
and I knew him at the time when he booked the show Everwood.
That's awesome.
And that's my story.
Of Everwood.
That's the most I know about Everwood is I once knew a guy
who was a guest star for a couple of episodes on the show Everwood.
Guy with an unfortunately confusingly distinct.
to name with not only a
classic actor but a current director
to contend with it. Yeah, that ends doing
some of him. A lot of Steve. Yeah.
Yeah. Not Steve McQueen, the director.
Yeah, Steve McQueen. Yeah. Stephen McQueen.
Stephen McQueen. Uh, very important
announcement. It right now, today
is Bucky Barnes' birthday. No way.
Bucky Barnes, moderator.
Thank him. Thank you, Bucky. Thanks for catching.
Happy birthday. Thank you, Bucky for holding down the fort.
You love Bucky out here.
Not getting enough flowers last.
So you get all the flowers today.
And Julian, thank you for the super chat.
Jules, appreciate you.
All righty, here we go.
Deadshot always hits his mark.
Hey guys, watch your X-Men Origins reaction.
And it was a fun vid.
Movie is bad, but I can see it as a very terrible false memory
that weapon X-proc-like in the comics.
Love that take.
What good canon.
Also, that is the last video I checked the comments on because I had no more.
No more.
That was my breaking point.
Was people being mad at us for not liking a bad movie?
It was the craziest comment boards I've ever read.
Like, it was just actually insane.
The movie is objectively not good.
People think I like everything.
I was talking about a movie that no one likes and apparently the 500 people that do were real mad.
It's the 15 year rule.
It's an underlooked gem now.
Now it's a cult classic.
Every movie gets a fan base at the end of the day.
I'm happy that when you do a video that has a little bit.
40,000 views.
You're bound to get some people that actually like it.
You guys don't get this.
And I don't.
And I was nice to break.
This movie that even the stars of the film have disowned.
Everyone remade movies to avoid that one existing.
They've canonically called it, but it's good.
It is.
But X-Men Origins, we watched the Wolverine Extended Cut yesterday,
and we were discussing how it's a fascinating trilogy of Wolverine.
films because there's never been a trilogy where each one has gotten phenomenally better than the
other one yeah because usually they don't start at a one yeah so it's incredible that like the next one
is like a solid like b and then logan's i mean from memory incredible logan's one of the greatest
comic movies of all time i cannot wait to rewatch it but the wolverine is so much better than the origins
and then logan's so much better than the wolver yeah because yeah usually don't get a trilogy would you start
there it's great rare opportunity to fail upward yeah and yeah i'm really excited for logan
All right. Thank you. Deadshot. Appreciate that. Let's do Brock 52. Happy Friday. It's my daughter Olivia's eighth birthday. And fun fact, daughter Olivia is named after Greg's wife Olivia.
Oh, happy birthday. Happy birthday.
Happy birthday. Was she like, Daddy, buy me an ice cream. It's only $2. And he was like, no, I want to give the real rejects these $2 today instead. But Daddy, it's the last.
two dollars I have.
Honey, leave me alone.
This is the only joy I get. I thought I
bring you joy, Dad.
Olivia, please.
This is how I get my dopamine.
I am deficient.
This will last longer than the ice cream.
I'll read this back later.
We can replay this. You can't replay
ice cream. It's all about you today.
Okay. I need some attention.
I need some appreciation.
All we ever do is focus
on you for your birthday. The rest of us
here, here too. Without me,
you don't have a birthday. Yeah.
So, happy birthday, Olivia.
Happy birthday, Olivia.
Oh, you enjoyed it. Happy eighth birthday.
We love you. All right.
Let's do one more stream.
Let's super chat and let's check on the stream labs.
Hey, Alan Smithy.
Hey, buddy. Always here.
Love Alan Smithy. What's up, my reject homies?
Happy Friday. Happy Friday to you.
Curious.
Do you guys ever react to
films or shows on physical media?
Does your, like, does your studio have a disc player or are you guys mostly streaming at this point?
99.9% of the time we be streaming, man.
Yeah.
We'd be streaming.
We don't have an actual, like, Blu-ray plugged in or something like that.
We don't have a device.
I'm the one with all the weird disc drives for if we need to, like, source something.
But even then, we're not watching from discs.
We're ripping from discs.
I'm back to discs at home, though.
I mean, I've always been in physical media, but if I have it, I'm no longer streaming movies because I did a, I got a 4K player for Christmas and I did a side by side of picture quality with like my fiber internet watching and then the 4K.
And it is cartoonishly better on disc because it's 4,000 lines of resolution.
So I've actively been getting out of the habit of the ease of like, click.
And I like supporting physical media.
Did you bring Anya to look at the side by sides?
I did.
Be like, do you see?
Look at the.
this spec on his face here.
Do you see his
pores?
The pores are so...
I don't see a damn dip.
No, there's a difference.
And the audio is crazy different.
So I set up my audio.
I have kept speakers and I have two
full three foot cap speakers, two
bookshelf speakers that are nice, two thirds that are also
beautiful. I have a sound system
and I got a microphone and I set
up my sound systems. The acoustics are for
the room. So I programmed my speakers
to be the right acoustics for the physical room.
And I had Anya stand in the spot where I
bike perfected it in the middle of the
like the vectors and had her listen to the difference of 4K and she could hear the difference
if not see but i did set up two TVs one top of the other like a crazy person she said you get
here to get out of the conversation she definitely was like you spent six hours seven
oh wow my mind is so blown i need to go take a now i'm gonna shut the i'm gonna shut and lock the door
for a bit but that's not personal yeah i'm just reflecting on this experience i did it with the batman
it was awesome to watch the batman in two formats i'd be down pretty good yeah let's do
this. All right. Here we go. Let's
I love the streamlapse. They hack the system.
Do a switchy. Yeah.
Yeah. You got to respect to hacking into the system.
We love cunning fans here at the
Reject Nation. Dan V-900!
Let's do it. I am
very conflicted over the
lantern's trailer. It's what they
said it would be, but it's not what
I want for a green lantern
show. Hard
traveling heroes with
Ollie and Hal isn't the same
as Hal training John. I'm
expecting how to die, which would be a dot, dot, dot, second comment.
Waste of the character.
I'm tired of waiting until the finale to have someone in their suit, which is also what I'm
expecting.
I do think the show will be good on its own merits, but it's clear Kyle Rayner is getting
skipped.
Feels more elseworld to me.
What, say, the.
Do you think Hal Jordan will die?
If he does, it'll be parallax.
It's one of the most famous things
Hell Jordan does is die.
You don't,
do you not feel like we should deserve,
we deserve?
Do you not feel like we should,
we should get a proper Hal Jordan?
I think it,
I assume it won't be this season.
I think it'll have him later.
I think people are assuming it's this season.
I think we'll get them a little longer personally.
Dead cops.
More dead cops.
But like,
I don't know.
I'm not.
not a, I'm not a giant, uh, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not the biggest, like devout Hal Jordan guy,
like I know a lot of people are. So I don't want to disrespect Hal Jordan fans. I just never connected
to the character. He's such a golden age. Um, he, Kyle Rainer is more interesting to me. He's my
favorite lantern. I think John Stewart's more interesting than Hal Jordan. I also from the trailer
thought we got more Hal Jordan than I was expecting. It seems more like a two-handed than a John
Stewart show with Hal Jordan. I think like howl Jordan had more lines in the trailer. To me, it felt like a
duo show. I didn't get
the Hal Jordan being... I feel like Kyle Chandler was the lead.
Yeah. So I don't get that
approach that a lot of people are like, well, I was, you know,
Hal Jordan not deleted. To me, it felt like he was the lead.
Oh.
So that's a thing that people said. I thought for sure he's the lead of the show.
He definitely looks like he's the lead. To me, that's
the vibe I got, but that's the internet. The internet's
complaining that Hal Jordan is being...
I mean, if maybe I'm misinterpreting
but it sounds like he's saying the same.
But yeah, I'm not as beholden to
Hal Jordan, so I don't...
I'm more excited in the story they decided to tell
because of the team behind it.
Like, I'm a bigger fan of Tom King, Damon,
and Chris Mundy than I am of Hal Jordan.
So I'm more excited to see whatever story they want to tell
than I'm attached to the character of Hell Jordan.
Because Kyle Rainer is my lantern and John Stewart's a little bit more interesting.
That said, I will say I worry that John Stewart is going to get Kyle Raynard
and then we won't get Kyle Rayner.
Like he seems to be a little bit more of like cop on the edge.
Like John Stewart seems to be the young,
novice to
the rigs
it's interesting
they're subverting
the rigs mertoff thing
where it feels like
how Jordan's more
the cop on the edge
as the older cop
and then the younger cop
is going to be a little bit
more by the book
but John Stewart is so different
than Kyle Rainer
he's not as fun
he's more regimented
he follows rules
he's part of a system
he's military
I'm curious to see
that side of him
but this is a two minute trailer
so I didn't see anything
that shows me
that isn't the case
I just hope they don't make
him amalgamation
my favorite lanterns.
That's fair.
We'll see, man.
Sorry, Dan, V-9-100 that you're not digging the trailer,
but who knows, maybe by the time it comes out,
you'll actually enjoy it.
Maybe, man.
Well, who knows?
But you know who else might know something?
Anonymous!
Appreciate you chiming in.
Anonymous says,
can't wait for the reaction to the Man on Fire TV show.
I just discovered this was a thing yesterday.
Maybe we'll do it.
Maybe we won't.
Yaya's in it.
Oh.
I do love the guy.
That was an excellent.
That was an excellent beat.
Yeah, no, he's great, man.
I have yet to see a project with Yaya that isn't elevated by Yaya.
So I'm excited.
And Man on Fire is a great movie, so.
I don't know if they're all, I know there was like a Man on Fire movie, and then there
was a Denzel movie with Man on Fire.
And then now there's a TV show.
I don't know if they're all like the same thing.
One Canon.
Yeah, I don't know if there's, like, I don't know if the Denzel movie is a remake of that one
Like the Equalizer?
We thought it was a remake and I was like, what?
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know what's what, but yeah, yeah, Abdul Mateem, man.
He is the shit.
Yeah.
I'm excited for, I'm excited to just getting that chance.
Absolutely, bud.
To have a show dropped for one weekend and then people not talk about it again.
I'm excited for people to talk about it for 40 or 8 to 72 hours.
Yeah.
All right, we got a couple from Stephen here.
Stefan, thank you for chiming in.
First up, which do you think is worse?
X-Men Origins Wolverine or Batman and Robin.
X-Men Origins Wolverine.
X-Men origin's Wolverine.
For me, I like the two of them.
of them and Dark Phoenix is worse than the two of them put together.
Respectfully disagree.
I only seen it one time, but I don't know where I'll stand until we get there, but
off of feeling off of the one time I've seen it.
I think I prefer Dark Phoenix over than both.
I remember liking Dark Phoenix more than either, but we will see soon.
We haven't watched it recently.
We'll be excited to find out what your last stand will be on that.
Will we be united?
X2.
All right, here we go.
Stephen goes on to say when,
went to see the bride on Monday evening,
and there was no one else in the screen.
Yet, Scream 7,
which was a pile of shit,
is higher in box office.
Why do you think this is?
Jesse Buckley knocked out of the park in this?
I mean, it's pretty obvious.
Scream 7 is a beloved franchise
with a very big band base around it,
who wanted to,
see the movie and they're capitalizing on nostalgia in the marketing, whereas the bride looks
like alternate take on something. So I feel like you're going away from what's familiar.
Also, I didn't love either, but quality does not equal quantity of seats filled.
28 years later, the Bowen Temple did not do well, and I loved it. It did so not well that I don't
know if we're still getting a third one. And that's one of my favorite movies in years. So
quality is relative, but also doesn't mean people are going to see it. They should just do a
streaming movie, then.
Yeah.
That's what we want.
Yeah.
I'm down.
Finally get that return of Mr.
Murphy.
We should put it on the PlayStation
network.
Sony Streamer,
the PlayStation Network.
Do you remember when they tried
to put shows on PlayStation?
Yeah.
Like powers,
like a Brian Michael Bender show
is a PlayStation exclusive.
Oh, yeah.
They had their own little network
for like two years.
They should bring it back.
Bring it back.
Bring it back.
Do it.
All right.
Thank you, Stephen.
Who do we got next?
We got another Dan V.
Here we, G.
Last.
I'd say
Fackham Hall
Fackham Hall
sorry
was the most
underrated comedy
the trailer
promoted it
as a
Downton Abbey parody
but it's just
really funny
all the praise
this year
for Nirvana
of the band
the show
the movie
is deserved
it's a great
back to
the future film
what?
I don't know
anything about
that movie
but it sounds
like a fun time
what is
the follow-up
questions
he has
let us see
as Dan V
goes on to say
speaking of marketing
and release dates.
Have your thoughts changed on Supergirl's release date?
Masters of the Universe, Scary Movie 6, Disclosure Day, and Toy Story 5 all came out weekly before it.
Come out weekly before it, and Scary Movie just moved up a week.
The weekend after is Minions 3, followed by Moana and Honesty.
This summer's so crazy.
I don't know where you'd move it.
Like, it's just stacked this summer.
Like, you just listed a lot of stuff.
I don't know where it would go.
Well, I think, hopefully.
the idea there was a time in the summer where everyone didn't go like there's too many
yeah we used to enjoy there being a lot of movies yeah we used to enjoy that there's a
why in my day three releases was a good thing a big movie every weekend and and now it's
that's where theaters need to go back to is where there's a big movie every weekend for a certain
amount of time and hopefully that is more of the case versus we need more people in
theaters yeah yeah exactly because then like sometimes ah master the union
universe is a new movie. It's two bit. It is sold out. Oh, but I haven't seen Disclosure Day yet. Let me,
I don't know the release aid orders these things. Let's go watch Disclosure Day then instead.
Or it's 12 o'clock and oh, there's not a showing of that till two. I'll go see this.
Yeah, there used to be a time like that. So we need to go back to hope. That's what theaters
need to kind of go back to. I used to call a phone number and have a robot tell me when the
times were. And then I'd get the newspaper and go to the place and be like it's this time.
And that's how I'd pick my movie. Oh, before reserve seating. Yeah, you'd get the early. You'd look
got a piece of paper and it'd tell you.
Yeah.
Why in my day.
Used to wait in line for hours for some movies.
I worked at a theater when we didn't have reserve seating and it was crazy to like engineer
the line.
Like I worked two towers and like getting people into those seats was such a, because those
are passionate fans.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
That was crazy.
No reserve seats.
620 seat cinemas.
Wow.
Yeah.
We had our two big ones.
One in 14.
We're 620 seats.
So you'd have 1,200 people waiting in two lines.
I waited like 12 hours in line for that movie and I dozed off.
Oh no.
Definitely fell asleep during the end scenes.
Oh, that's heartbreaking.
All those endings.
All right, here we go.
We got Stephen.
One last one in here from the stream labs.
Thoughts on Arnold Schwarzenegger
and talks to return to Predator,
a Commando sequel,
and a Conan sequel,
all of the above.
Ever since he became governor,
he just hasn't been on top.
I was thinking about the Conan sequel
and how he would have been
in the exact right age when he was governor.
Yeah.
Like an aged, but still, like, physically vital and, like, ready.
Conan is canon, and that would have been cool.
But, like, that was a little bit of cool.
He hasn't had a hit, right, since he stopped being governor, like a true, a true hit.
I watch videos about the animals live in his house.
He had, uh, he's had, like, good interviews.
He did Fubar, which had a really good season one, but season two got canceled.
Yeah.
I'm not saying he's had, like, all his movies have been bad.
I'm talking about like a hit.
Because he set out to not be a great actor.
He set out to be a celebrity.
And he was for a decade.
Yeah, he was like the biggest star.
But Stallone's had hits more recently, I think.
And Expendables he was in, but I don't think of it as an Arnie movie.
Not at all.
That's an Arny cameo.
That's what I mean.
Like I can't think of where Stallone had the Expendables franchise.
And like Stallone has had.
Yeah, yeah.
Like not even the escape.
I mean, it was Escape Plan even here?
They had like DVD sequels.
I don't know if they...
Yeah, there's a lot of like Walmarty Arnold's hits.
I mean...
Terminator Dark Fate is what comes up
as the most recent thing he was involved with
that like made big money,
but that's obviously not like a...
Yeah, hit among the fan base and people in general.
And box office-wise.
I'm very curious how any of that does.
I think Predator could be exciting
because of how Predator ends
and, you know, the way that Tractenberg
is setting up this universe.
That'd be a cool way to do the...
Like, that character I can see his age.
but like commando would have to be the creed route where it's like a passing of the torch
Conan is a character like Odin at in points of the comics like you can do like an Odin Conan
it would have been better in the governor era um but i'm curious i think i think out of the three
of these the only one that would actually be successful is predator i don't think a commander
sequel would be big uh i just it's it's it's not it's like it's it's it wouldn't be big like
it's big it's big for arnold fans right which is but these other movies
like and Conan is an IP that they try to make big and like it doesn't ever quite get to the level that you think it would be at.
Predator is the one that I feel like would be the most exciting one.
Especially right now with her Predator is culturally.
Yeah.
I think it would actually be excited for him to be in a Predator movie.
Yeah, but I think a Commando sequel is like, why who gives a shit.
And I think Conan's sequel, I think that's long gone at this point.
I think Conan would be the most interesting, but it's weird.
I feel like Conan would be the most interesting prospect
because you could do character
but you could also do the action and we have a moment
in time where like that kind of
thing is actually sort of back
but you would need to be
able to do it low budget enough and that's the problem.
If you had Arnold you would want to be high budget
and I think the resurgence of
these kinds of sword sandals fantasies
doesn't allow for that big of the book.
I would say that a character study on Conan
will go as well as a lanterns trailer character
Yeah.
And then character studies are very important and yet.
Conan is righteous, man.
Conan is so awesome.
All right.
Anyway, March 13.
Sorry, that's today.
Marchapalooza.
That's your name.
Sorry, this is the last stream level.
Hey, Greg and Coy.
Will you be hosting a panel at WonderCon this year?
If not any other appearances you hope to do soon.
Thanks.
No, we will not be at WonderCon.
Do you guys want us do a live event in Burbank?
If you want us to do a live event in Burbank, maybe one day we will.
There's a good Chipotle
And I always thought
We'd be a great Chipotle host
Yes
We just get everybody together
Talk about burritos
Movie conversations are banned
Dude who doesn't love a burrito
I love burritos
We can watch John react to burritos
Yeah
John eat that burrito
I eat that second burrito
John's gonna die
You had a third burrito
Give me all the hot sauce
Let's go
John ate 10,000 calories in one hour
I'm bringing back my coffee reactions
We're gonna watch John
Eat the calories Greg and I can't
Right now
Yeah why not
I'm so jealous of John's
Britos.
I think the Burbank area would be like a perfect.
It's so central and it'd be awesome to see people.
We can all see a movie.
Any other live appearances?
Nope.
Nope.
Not for me.
Are you going to Comic Con?
I'm not going to WonderCon because I,
Comic Con.
The big one?
Oh yeah.
I never missed July Comic Con.
But that's so far away.
I don't have any panels booked.
But because of CinemaCon and because D.C.'s coming back soon.
Don't don't have dates for you that I can publish.
can announce yet, but DC's coming back soon.
Because of those two things, I don't want to do a bunch of cons and fall behind on work.
Because I keep doing that every year.
I'll like do every con that I want to.
And then all of a sudden, I'm like, I've done 82 days in a row.
So I'm trying to pace myself for just the right things.
So CinemaCon, yes.
Comic Con and July, yes, the rest are probably not.
Out of respect for rejects.
Yeah, that's why?
Because they've got to, well, you guys have to juggle my schedule.
Every time I do a thing, I've got to think of everyone.
And I'm not being selfish this year.
Sure.
I have to think of Alex and her three-year-old and me texting her at midnight and saying like, oh no.
To hell with that three-year-old.
Yeah.
Doesn't want to go to the birth character, all right.
Wait.
So yeah, when I text it three, yeah, it's a perfect time.
All right.
Well, we appreciate all of you guys.
Anyway, let's jump back over into the super chats and catch up with Mayank Rana Navarre.
Thank you for chiming in.
Hey, Greg Coy and John,
thanks for saying hi.
Given the murder mystery element of lanterns,
I theorize the killer will be Blackhand.
What do you all think?
I think that's very viable.
I think it's really fun if they did
Sinestro as like a mislead
and everyone assumes Sinestro is the big bad,
but then it's like a more niche character.
Black Hand's more niche than Sinestro.
And I think the murder mystery element allows
for a different tone
than people might expect for a cosmic story,
but should expect for a,
cop story. I really think it's cool to lean into the other side of the lantern core. So I think a murder
mystery for the core is really exciting. And then it can go bigger and bigger. And maybe it does turn out
to be someone like Black Hand that gets cosmic. But I think it's perfect. If that's the case.
Do you think Landon should coexist with the Green Lantern movies? Like they should do movies as well.
Oh yeah. I think that if you're going to have the cosmic level budget, I think you'd need to be a movie.
And I think that this can set that up. But I think it'd be a cool bridge to do. Lantern's introduce,
get to know the characters, have the amount of time to really care about.
them, then put them in Superman and then movies.
Like, it'll be a great trajectory of, like, investment in the individual investment in
them in this setting and then...
Sweet sauce.
That's what I would do, and it seems like that's what they're doing.
Love to hear it.
Thank you, Myna, for always being here.
How, yeah.
Andres, Andres, thank you for chiming in.
Have you seen good luck, have fun, don't die.
And if not, will there be a reaction?
On my end, maybe.
Coy, you signed it.
I liked it, didn't love it.
I loved what it was trying to say.
There were a few moments that were a little,
tone deaf's too strong of a word,
but in that direction where it feels like
they needed consultants more of the generation
that is actually going to be dealing with it.
It's kind of like our government.
Like everyone that's running it is 80 and about to die.
There needs to be people that are actually going to deal
with the ramifications of AI in 10 years
having some of the perspective on its current state.
Like I like that it tried to navigate some of the benefits and it tried to navigate a realistic side and made AI the villain that was a whiny little bitch because AI is for cowards.
But it also didn't allow for nuance because it had such a strong thing to say that it doesn't feel like it acknowledges some of the benefit.
And I think that there is a little bit of a older generation like a man yells at cloud energy that is fair, but also could have been subdued a little to make it more less preachy.
It doesn't quite get preachy, but it approaches preachy,
and I think that's my biggest flaw with it.
I noticed that enough times,
but I'm really glad it exists.
It's my number seven of the year so far.
Like, I did enjoy it,
but that is a big enough flaw that I can't give it all of my flowers.
God, I saw this cloud earlier today.
Just yelling at it.
Fucking, just like, you piece of shit.
So incensed.
I wonder all the time if they named the place we do online stores the cloud
to be cheeky about yelling at technology evolving.
I think about that all the time.
Like, do we call it the cloud?
It's a reasonable thing to think about all the time.
Yeah, I like a lot.
I think that's a good thing to consume your mind with and...
That's my conspiracy.
Maybe one day he solved the answer.
Us naming things just spite millennials.
That's what I think about oft.
That's my contribution to this conversation.
All right, Captain Fernandez is back.
Hot take, the BAFTAFurr clinched MBJ's Oscar.
No.
Oh, you mean...
The conversation around?
it.
Clinched as in like
solidified it?
Or sabotaged?
What is the word of clenched use for?
I think clinched is like cemented.
Yeah.
The public outrage
clinched.
That's why Captain Fernandez doesn't have
an image in their profile.
I don't think it did anything
for the actual Oscar.
I think it just, I mean, it did cause conversation,
but I don't think it was a benefit.
I don't know.
I I is the theory that like oh because of the like it might have been chalemay but now it's not or like to like but not the actual backdrop awards but the incident is the thing that may have like oh we got it like do right by him I'm not sure racism benefits black people. I know a whole bunch of people who would disagree. I'm sure you do. They have very successful channels.
My friends. It's a lot of people that run a lot of channels. I yeah, I don't. I don't.
I don't personally agree, but I think I see where you're coming from.
I mean, I could imagine a world where some voters are like,
ah, yeah, that was really ugly.
We should give it to him.
But I don't think you vote from like a place of like, man,
I feel like he shouldn't have dealt with that.
I hope that doesn't, I hope he seems poised to win.
And I hope if he does win that this does not become a conversation.
Yeah, like to me, there's no part of me if I was an Oscar voter, which I'm not,
that I would see a moment like that happened and it would affect my experience of his art.
Like, I would never have.
a moment that happened on the press
tour be like, that made the performance better.
And it should be about the performance.
But I don't know if that is...
Is it ever really about the performance?
But that's what you were saying earlier.
That was our whole conversation with drama and gossip.
Well, on the Baptist situation,
it feels like it kind of, at least to me,
felt like it took all the focus and conversation
away from all the movie stuff,
whereas like even the Timothy Shalameh controversy
or the Dan Merle mentioned
the Jesse Buckley controversy about hating cats,
those things feel more tied into like
the speaker go fuck herself.
Yes.
I'm glad the pride flops.
A lot of this is ridiculous, John, but no.
But we didn't bring up cats out of respect.
Jesse Buckley should be crucified.
Yeah, she should be in public.
I feel these words.
But those.
That scene in Catwoman, the scene of Catwoman and Batman?
Yeah.
The thing with.
John finish your thought.
It felt like it felt like.
Yeah, like John while he's talking.
The thing with Michael B. Jordan and Delroylando felt like it pierced out of all this.
into reality in a harshly uncomfortable way,
in a way that, yeah,
doesn't even make me think of the movies anymore, you know?
So I feel like, yeah,
I can't really see that as, yeah,
like a very strong thing to attach to the movie considerations themselves,
I suppose.
I just want everyone to know,
I do not accept Jesse Buckley's apology.
You heard it here, folks.
And I hope it's sabotaged her Oscar win.
Josh Horace ended her Oscar King.
I hope that one she wins
That everyone
Someone shouts
Keep my cat's name
All right
Here we go
Someone comes up with her
And hits her with a cat
Oh no
Oh no
Swing a dead cat in here
Without hitting an Oscar
I am chef
Thank you for chiming in
Both parents collecting comics
And now finally in my late 20s
collecting comics
I get super excited
For all comics stuff
but the fans kill my enthusiasm.
How do you guys not let that exhaust you?
I'm so exhausted.
You know it doesn't.
Never.
I'm exhausted right now.
I'll be exhausted later.
I'll be exhausted tomorrow.
This is a choice I made.
It could be way worse.
I could be a coal miner.
I could be doing jobs that are so much more grueling physically.
But emotionally, I've lost so much joy by choosing to turn my joy into money.
Foolish, but I'd do it again.
it's a way better life than other lives,
but it definitely is exhausting.
Like, it's part of the job.
I think I get paid to tolerate stupidity.
Like, I'm not paid to,
I don't get paid to read the comics.
I don't get paid to,
uh,
like learn quality language.
I don't get paid to be a better conversationalist.
I think those are benefits to the job.
But I think the money that I'm paid is to tolerate cunts.
Ha ha.
Yes.
Woo!
204.
I will be cutting out a word in the editor as soon as this processes.
Sorry, John and Greg.
It's all good.
I didn't think of a better word.
It's all good news now.
Well, you guys get the Snyder cut.
I'm sorry.
Oh, sure.
You're right.
That's right.
Yeah, we've waited the first four minutes in there.
Only you know the truth, live audience.
It's like that Ron Funch's audio.
It's how do you manage all that stuff?
I don't.
I'm tired all the time.
Do you have anything to add to Koi's, you know,
I think Greg Campbell's a lot better than I do.
I think you have more ebbs and flows.
Like your peaks are higher than mine.
Like when you're stressed, it feels like a bigger, like,
and then, but you, you are maintenance better.
I'm, I'm going to take in a, I don't know.
I become, I'm good at shutting down.
Like, it's not good for when you have to, like, do a video.
reaction where it's all about like getting emotionally in tune with yourself and what you're experiencing.
But I tend to put up a wall and I become apathetic towards things after a while.
That's my my thing.
It's like, this is fucking ridiculous.
I haven't found apathy yet.
Like, I think that's then a really interesting thing as I get more emotionally available is like I never was closed off.
But then like I'm worried that the depths I'm able to reach now or more.
So it's going to like affect me more because I'm definitely, I'm definitely more affected than I'm comfortable with.
Like I never feel like I'm able to.
totally separate.
I understand.
Well, I think online feeds a certain type of emotional breeding, right?
And I think if we,
a lot of times it's like if I just only hear like passing opinions,
I don't really care or get affected that much.
But then if I do get involved in like watching enough videos and stuff,
suddenly I'm like feeling the rage that people are projecting.
Yeah.
And I'm like, now I got a fucking opinion.
I'm like,
really?
It's like fucking Ezra Miller.
Like when that Ezra Miller shit was going down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
like I thought for a second I actually gave a shit.
And then I took a step back.
I fucking doing videos.
And I was like, I really don't care about this actually.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it was like that kind of thing.
The high mind is crazy.
Like how you suddenly think you're part of something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But a lot of people capitalize on that and they make a lot of money doing it.
They get a lot of great views.
And this is a big part of internet culture.
And hey, if you don't mind doing that, like, I'm just fucking all, all, I'll
tell you drama channels and whatever.
whatever. And I sometimes watch these drama channels. I can enjoy them now without getting
emotionally involved. I'm on the other side. I think vultures have no place. So if you're going to be
a drama channel and you're going to profit off like Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, then you have
a different, you're not on a level of society, I think, is human. I like watching every video
that's been coming out for the past few months. It's like, Joe Rogan finally realized Trump's aville.
I just the people that make money off. How long has Joe Rogan realized this? It's been like,
like six months of these videos, guys.
He's still realizing it. He's still just realizing.
He's just realizing over and over again.
Do you know what that word means?
Constant state of realization.
We'd love to see it, Joe.
All right. I am.
Chef is back.
Ah!
Thank you for chiming in.
Rewatching X-Men with you guys.
Who would you guys love the villain to be?
Off topic.
Have you guys met? Have you guys seen Marvel Rivals or any of the character designs?
Koi and I are planning on playing Marvel Rivals.
Yeah, I've never ever encountered Marvel rivals.
I haven't seen a trailer.
I've seen some promo art, but I don't know gameplay.
I'm so excited.
So we're going to do that.
And by planning on playing, I mean, recording planning on playing too.
You guys will experience us flailing, or at least me flailing.
I'm very excited about it.
You guys got a magic marker so I could cross out the word air one here.
Oh, wow.
I don't want to seem like I don't relate with the audience.
I mean, let's, uh, yeah.
Is that an $82 bag of popcorn in there?
I was going to say, how many authentic gold flakes are in there?
Man, take out a mortgage to get that bag of popcorn?
Crazy.
Ever had golden flake popcorn?
Oh my God, it's crazy.
Greg's still making payments.
All of your super chats went to that bag of popcorn.
Next time I'm going to try the platinum dusted ones.
This whole bag is huge and it's only 120 calories.
That's I'm jealous.
That's why.
And only $140.
We got to go to Airwant after this.
You go to my Air One app.
I got two things.
Every order is the same two things.
The tofu?
Because it's a high calorie, low fat, I mean, low calorie, high protein.
And this popcorn.
That's all I get from marijuana.
They're buffalo.
They're right.
If you like buffalo, it's real good.
It tastes almost like chicken since you're not a meat, man.
The only thing I can't justify the price on is fucking this popcorn and tofu, because it is like, this is a really unreasonably priced store.
But for the prestige of the quality of these two items.
The question is rivals and there was something before that.
Oh, yes.
it was.
We're watching
the X-Men with you guys.
Who would you guys
love the villain to be?
Oh,
I want Sentinels, man.
I feel like we've had
like Trask and we've had
Sentinels in the danger.
Like,
we've never had sentinels.
So I think
setting up Magneto
as a big bad for a long time,
I think doing a couple
incidental villains,
maybe like a juggernaut,
but I really want to see
sentinels.
And Mr. Sinister's been,
Mr. Sinister's been teased long enough.
Sinister's the one I definitely want.
It's time.
I also think Sinister
works for this generation.
Like I think Sinister's really
applicable. And I think like a fun, sassy, like, there's so much, I think it'd be really fun to cast someone
like unexpected that's very good with physical comedy, like Ryan Gawson or something. Yeah. Right?
Ryan Gosselin is Mr. Sinister. It'd be dope.
Ryan Gosson's so funny. One of the best. I think it was hard to interview.
Him and Adam Driver are the two best, um, SNL. S&L host.
Agreed for different reasons. Adam Driver's like fully committed, never breaks. And Ryan Gosson's the one.
Only breaks. It is fully committed at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. They're the two favorite celebrity hosts.
The interview was hard because I wanted to like, yes, and, but I knew I only had seven minutes.
And I was originally given eight and then the seven got cut down like six and a half.
And I was like, I prepped 20 minutes.
And I was like, no time to riff with the greatest.
That was, that was tricky.
But yeah, I think Mr. Sinister and Sentryl's.
I agree.
Thank you, I am chef.
Nick Alexander, Nick can't say no.
Thank you for chiming in.
Thank you, Koi.
People say they want different.
We are getting Clayface horror and lanterns is grounded.
Yet people complain it's different.
I am pumped for the variety of DC projects.
I can't talk about DC positively or I'm a paid chill
and I can't talk about Disney positively or I'm a shill
and I'm really curious when the checks arrive.
But I do know.
You don't get checks from DC?
I do, I do.
Coy, I warned you.
But they're exploiting you.
All this work you're doing.
You have workers rights, Coy.
You don't have to work for the privilege.
Right now we haven't started filming season two.
I am not getting checks as we speak.
I don't have any.
I'm not beholden right now, guys.
I rejects.
I'm not beholden.
I have a not exclusive so I can talk.
But it's funny because it's a really tricky thing being to be upset because it's not their take.
Being excited as a comic fan that does it professionally is even harder.
But being comic fan that gets paid and does it elsewhere, it's really hard for people to hear objectivity.
I'm so passionately excited about the different flavors that DC is doing that Marvel
does so well when they're on the right path.
I just think DC is in a better spot right now
because of they just started fresh
and I think that's a beautiful thing.
So I'm more excited about DC doing things like this.
I'm totally in agreeance with you.
But it's really hard because the internet is,
the word fan comes from fanatic.
People are fanatical about the way they see a thing.
So they're going to be,
you're not going to read people yelling loudly
how much they're excited for something
because they're doing that with their friends.
The people that are yelling loudly
probably don't have a lot.
So they have more time.
I think people want DC to be Marvel already.
Right.
And that's so crazy.
Like,
I just can't.
Sorry,
guys.
You just had to restart DC like five times.
And now it seems like we're finally committed to a path.
So let's see how it goes.
It's been three properties,
guys.
We got a path.
I think the fact that we have a lantern show
and then he's going to be a man of tomorrow
is a sign of the path.
Yeah.
Like I said,
I think that leads to a lantern's movie.
I think that's where you do the cosmic
and the budget allows for it.
Yeah.
We can get around around his back.
Oh, totally.
Totally. That's what we need.
And he's got paid for that lawsuit, man.
That's the path.
Here, here.
Maximum litigation.
All right.
Thank you, Nick.
Expert criminal!
Can you guys please make a gaming channel?
Marvel rivals.
John and I just finished playing Mortal Kombat last night.
At least half of it, yeah.
No, we finished the game.
Is that the whole game?
I thought there's, yeah.
I guess it is the whole game.
we had a whole experience
where we were like
I thought there was more
but there was the credits
and everything
yeah I know
but then there's that whole
second chapter
no the second chapter
is the next game
is this the next game
I'm so confused
with how they make games
now they just do two at a time
I feel more comfortable
about being on the gaming channel
because of this interaction
I don't know
I don't understand how this works
it took John and I like
four months to beat
more of all that
I feel better and better
about being on this gaming leg now
because I am not good at it
No, yeah, it was like, yeah, it was an interesting experience.
But now we should start releasing that at the end of the month, actually.
Wolverine's out of my birthday.
Wolverine game on PS5, September 15th.
You're working your birthday then.
Oh, here we are.
Guys, if you wanted to see me drunk on a stream.
You just dunked your own grave.
Get some Dunkin' Donuts, some Wolverine, and some whiskey.
What's Charlie saying?
Expert, thank you.
Expert.
Charlie's Flicks, fix says, ready for interview season two?
but coy hair looks great.
Greg equals Zaddy.
See these two popcorns.
Oh, is your nuts.
Oh!
Wait, let me zoom it on.
For life for Charlie.
Let me zoom in on them.
Let's zoom it.
Oh, there it is.
Oh, suckled.
Let's get that.
Look at that night.
Look at those white morsels on his tongue.
Let me, let me zoom even more.
And man.
It's so hard to zoom when the frame.
And they're airwant nuts.
So you know they're frame.
NRANNNNNU nuts
There we go
Organic
Yeah
It's just made with organic popcorn
That's right
Organically popped nuts
Virgin coconut oil
Oh virgin oil
Virgin oil
Virgin oil on his popped nuts
Look at that
Yeah
There is
Virgin like John Matern
Version like John Maturin
Version like John McTherom
When he's not around
Hold on let's get a little bit closer
On your mouth
There we go
There it is
I want to fill the frame
Hang on let me get one more pass
It's really hard to do this
Without cropping
the entire frame
So bear with me.
Nuts, nuts, nuts, nuts.
Yeah.
There it is.
Right in the bag.
All nut March.
Greg nutted too hard.
Way too hard.
Sometimes you nutter hard tears happen.
You get Catholic guilt kicks.
Ask Charlie Cox about it.
When Daredevil masturbates, does you feel bad?
He has a lot of sex before marriage.
It's not very Catholic.
Adeline of them.
Not to mention all the violence.
It's not to mention all the pain and the beatings.
I also wonder what that would look like for him.
What?
Like the sound of it.
What do you mean?
Like when he hears with echo,
so if he's wanking and there's like the,
you know,
his own little,
like the sloshiness.
Do you think he can,
if he uses lub or not,
I don't know.
But like I imagine it'd be like,
I create some like sonar type of calling
to other blind people with superpowers.
Yeah.
Which the M.C.
Like when Super.
man died and then...
And everyone heard it?
The beginning
is actually
Jesus League.
That's how Dared double wags.
It's just like going around.
That's what his billy club sounds like.
Everyone.
Air one.
All right.
Here we go.
Thank you.
Charlie.
O.G.
Carlos, Greg,
would you consider going on the escape podcast?
Absolutely.
I would love to go on the Escape Pod.
I'd also like to go on R.T. TV, John.
I'd also like to go on the RTTV podcast.
Where's our TTV?
I'd like to go on their podcast.
I was just listening to it.
They're really good.
And we love the escape pod boys.
They're good folk.
I heard Quito's in there all the time.
They're my,
like,
they're my favorite TikTok energy.
Like,
they've figured out how to make it actually authentically nerdy
while being like that super kinetic edit.
And like,
they've done a really good job making something that feels clipable and authentic.
I'm very impressed with them.
Hell yeah.
Here.
It'd be a very close up shot
If he does
I do have another chip too
Another one
No
What are you doing?
What are you eating?
Might be all the acidic stuff
Lemon
Fuck
Apple cider vinegar
Airone popcorn
Yeah
Teeth chip
That's crazy
I'm concerned
I'm brushing my teeth like crazy
all the time now
Probably making my gums worse
Do you have like a fluoride toothpaste
Something to add some like
Strength to you or maybe like
Boka toothpaste
Something you need some strength
You need some like calcium
them enhanced something.
I think it happened the same day.
Fuck.
Yeah.
Wait, you can't,
you can't have milk.
No, oh, you can't have milk because it's the dairy thing, not because of the animal thing.
Yeah.
Guys, what's going to fix Greg's tea?
Jen Maddle, thank you for chiming in.
Sending support.
Love the discussions.
Are you concerned?
Are you concerned that we haven't seen the teaser at least?
Are you concerned that we haven't seen a teaser at least for Spider-Man yet?
Also, what is your take in general on trailers?
Are they bad, good, or too much?
Well, when we used to do the thing where we picked questions to shape our conversation,
this would have been real good for all the conversations we had about trailers and the Spider-Man experience.
So it would have been pretty apropos.
I don't know how to check back an hour ago.
I was going to say, I'll scrub back and just replay the audio.
I think they do need to make trailers different than they...
every era has a certain formula for trailers i've noticed like yeah like the trailers tend to adopt an era
of trailer style in a world oh remember that era's dope i love that era um and i guess like
i think that's why i love the street fire trailer because it just feels something like different
and weird uh it like the street fighter has like a visceralness to it and by all accounts i thought
the bride actually had a pretty good first trailer,
even though I was like, this looks pretentious and awful,
but maybe good, who knows?
So that was like my experience with it,
but I don't know what trailers,
trailers don't feel as exciting as they once were.
I don't feel like people are as excited by trailers as they once were either.
I just, there's something,
there is something up with trailers now.
I can't quite put my finger on it.
I guess people also don't trust trailers as much anymore, too.
I think it's,
I mean, people get a,
upset when I blame the people, but I think there's some user error in, like, we're so over-stimulated.
I don't know if we can feel the way we felt about trailers, because I don't think we feel.
We're getting so much stimulation all the time.
No, definitely.
I knew you're right, though.
And I think trailers have also been formatted now to fit like this.
Right.
So it's like, watch it like this.
It has to be as big as a movie theater screen emotionally, and you're constantly stimulated
because you're always on a screen.
Like, going to watch a trailer used to be, when we started, trailers were an event.
of themselves and you dedicate
that time to it but then that would be like
enough to live off of for a week
and now it's like oh what's the next trailer
what's the next thing and we're constantly
being bombarded with like five second
TikTok amount of like it's just so much
it's like Vegas all the time we're playing the slots
and we expected to feel good it's like trailer language
has seeped into so much of the trailer
trailers have to be an experience
weapons trailer was an experience
weapons did very
very very well and it's not
because there was a huge fucking celebrity in it
Zach Krieger's name is not that huge.
But it had some damn good trailers.
And of course, like word of mouth is good and all that.
But it had an awesome opening weekend because the trailer was fucking effective.
Yeah.
20 years later, ultimately didn't make that much money.
Trailer's incredible.
But opening weekend it did because that trailer was the shit.
Yeah, the boots.
Trailers have to be an experience.
And when I say this, it's like, I'm literally mean this dimension, you know, for like TikTok and Instagram.
Once they started composing trailers to fit for that.
Then it just like people forget the trailers do have to be an experience.
They do have to be some type of.
Yeah, experience is to work for it.
I think, uh, I think there are the occasional ones, but we're so bombarded with the next thing.
We forget.
Like the supernova trailer for Project Hell Mary was like a like an experience.
But then we people are on the next thing and the next thing.
And I think that that that this press tour with this movie, because we're in the middle of it right now is it feels like a big event.
And that's rare now.
like doing all the press events and stops,
playing it early,
letting the embargo drop early.
Like,
all of this feels like it's an authentic hype.
Like, it's a build.
But most movies feel like it's like,
and it's out.
Like the trailer happens in the movie.
It doesn't feel like there's the journey it used to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know, though.
I don't know what they need to do.
What are some good trailers?
Sinners was a great trailer.
Yeah.
Cunters was a very effective trailer too.
20 years later, sinners, weapons.
Comment the best trailers in recent memory, gang.
Like the Odyssey looks great
I feel like Nolan has a trailer style now
I actually haven't watched the Odyssey trailer
I think it looks great
It's not to me the most memorable trailer
Okay I've just been like I'm gonna see the movie I don't need
It's one of the but Nolan doesn't need a great trailer
Right I think the Odyssey is most people's number one of the year
Because it's no one in the Odyssey
Yeah I think we should bring back the style of trailer
They used to cut in like the 50s and 60s
Where they don't show you any footage
And the whole trailer is trying to convince you not to see the movie
because it's too much.
There's like a whole thing where it's like if you,
we're giving out, I saw a trailer once
and the whole gag was,
we're giving out custom insurance policies
in the lobby because there are 10 moments
of extreme terror in this movie
and subjecting yourself to even one
could result in loss of sanity
and blah, blah, blah.
So like find the nurse in the law.
It was the silliest thing.
But it made for memorable trailers.
So that's a trend we should bring back.
Infinity War Hulk moment.
I think more fake stuff for trailers.
I think Michael will be huge.
Oh, that movie's going to be giant.
Even though I don't think the trailers are particularly great, I think it'll be huge.
Yeah, I don't think they needed to be.
Yeah.
I think it's like The Odyssey or Spider-Man or, like, there are certain things that are going to be huge culturally.
And that's why I haven't, I haven't needed to see The Odyssey.
I will be watching the Spider-Man trailer the moment drops.
But like my number one and number two are Spider-Man in the Odyssey,
and I don't think I'll watch The Odyssey before I see the movie.
I feel the same way about Street Fire, Quay.
I don't need to see any more footage.
Yeah, I came in today.
I was like, Craig, you know, there's cheese.
No, I'm good.
I'm good, man.
I'm ready.
I'm ready, man.
Street Fighter coming soon.
We should get Lewis to hand on here.
Did that be?
Cool, young!
Easy to do.
I can.
He's the best.
Louis is awesome.
I love how he was taking shots at Andrew Schultz.
Oh, yeah, he did a Brandon's show.
It's funny because I've seen Lewis like three times in the last couple of butts.
I love that they pushed because it also shows confidence in how good Mortal Kombat 2 is,
but now it made it a two-year.
It's funny because when the 90s movies came out there around the same time.
Yeah, that's true.
30 years later, the revenge tour.
Do you want me to ask Lewis?
Come on?
Yeah.
That'd be fun.
Be like, dude, I see you at my gym sometimes, but I never want to say hi.
And there's also another celebrity that I see a bedroom all the time that I never say.
Lewis and I are real friends.
You can tell him, you know, like, we actually know, you could like.
Him and his girlfriend work out there.
Yeah, Lewis is great.
I don't want to say anything.
Okay.
I'll invite him on, and then you can be like, hey, I go see the gym sometimes.
Who's the guy on the charity show of Colin Farrell?
Shea Wiggum.
She's Wiggum as an actor.
He's great.
Is he the one mission possible?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It works out of my gym.
I love Shay Wiggum.
I'm like, no, not going to say anything.
Love Shay Wiggum.
I've seen B.
I'm like, mm-hmm.
For some reason, I have all those Mr. B seems the weirdest.
The idea of him at a gym.
I didn't see him working out.
That's what I mean.
I'm like, maybe he's just there to be seen.
I could see that for him.
Hey, leave your life, Mr. Beast.
I don't need to say anything.
All right.
Dude, I'm most done with my popcorn, so we can go now.
Yeah, definitely, Shia Wiggum.
Yeah, I love Shere Wiggum.
Yeah.
He's one of those character directors.
I'll see everything he does.
He's related to Blair from freaking Ted.
He's like her uncle or dad or something.
Yeah.
His movie with John Bernthel, small engine repairs, really slept on.
It was a play.
Oh, yeah.
Amazing.
Fun fact.
We got any more?
Nope, we're ready to go.
Is that it?
Shee Wiggum!
We did it?
We did our topic.
Shea Wiggum.
Thank you, guys.
Guys, we're in the console
a little way your favorite
Shay Wiggum movie is.
Yeah, let's know about to
Shay Wiggum.
There's a lot of you guys
are here every week,
and I appreciate you.
We all do.
Alex, you worked your ass off today.
In office,
only off camera rejects,
sweating it out over here,
hustling.
She's got the remote control
that's controlling my body
to control this stream.
We also,
about the same people
we started with
out with people people hung out in this chaotic one
I love him so much
been riding thank you
you've been riding
you might misinterpret that as a bad thing
you're happy you're here
there's the same number of people here
as the beginning immediate response
and uh john
as always you were the MVP of my life
I did what I could John made this all possible
we'll be properly colorized next time
I'm telling you some follow-ups with our
guy as smile but uh
But yeah, I appreciate it.
No, we do a follow-ups, and we're going to give them a proper shout-out.
Yeah, we'll shout them out when we're not struggling.
When inexplicable, it's Friday the 13th, I forgot.
So inexplicable things are wont to happen.
So go watch your favorite Jason movie today.
We love you.
Bye, everyone.
Bye, everyone.
And, yeah, let me do up the end screen.
All right.
And we transition.
Peace be with you.
