The Reel Rejects - BABY DRIVER (2017) IS A GROOVY BADASS RIDE!! MOVIE REVIEW!!!

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

PEDAL DOWN, VOLUME UP!! Baby Driver Full Movie Reaction Watch Along:   / thereelrejects   Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ With T...he Running Man starring Glen Powell releasing - , Aaron, Andrew, & Greg UNITE to give their Baby Driver Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, Ending Explained & Spoiler Review! Aaron Alexander, Andrew Gordon & Greg Alba react to Baby Driver (2017), the stylish and adrenaline-fueled action crime thriller from acclaimed director Edgar Wright (Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz, Scott Pilgrim vs. the World). Known for its seamless mix of music, motion, and mayhem, Baby Driver delivers one of the most unique and rhythmically charged experiences in modern action cinema. The film stars Ansel Elgort (The Fault in Our Stars, West Side Story) as Baby, a getaway driver with unmatched skill behind the wheel who choreographs every heist to the beat of his personal soundtrack. His world spirals when he falls for Debora, a kind-hearted waitress played by Lily James (Cinderella, Yesterday), and dreams of escaping his life of crime. Kevin Spacey (American Beauty, House of Cards) plays Doc, the calculating mastermind who runs Baby’s crew, joined by Jon Hamm (Mad Men, The Town) as the dangerously unpredictable Buddy, Eiza González (Alita: Battle Angel, Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire) as his partner Darling, and Jamie Foxx (Collateral, Django Unchained) as the volatile and menacing Bats. Iconic and highly searched moments include the opening car chase synced to “Bellbottoms”, the foot chase set to “Hocus Pocus”, the coffee run long take, and the final confrontation between Baby and Buddy. With its flawless editing, killer soundtrack, and visual rhythm, Baby Driver stands as a masterclass in sound design and cinematic movement — a modern cult classic that redefined the heist genre. Follow Aaron On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealaaronalexander/?hl=en Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/Agor711 Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:30 Without further ado, let's get into the movie. Okay, you guys, thank you so much for watching this reaction. If you're listening to Sinoppler, Spotify, please go and give us five mother freaking stars. Also, I want to thank the people over at Prepa for cutting down these highlights so you can see them here on YouTube. Also, make sure your comment, you like, you subscribe, ring the freaking bell. but don't rain like tinnitus all right we got some questions that are going to be segmented in levels of importance deeper questions fun facts or fun questions and little trivias and whatnot before we get into we're going to give our quick thoughts before we jump into the review um yeah we're
Starting point is 00:02:16 going to start off with andrew i'll give fast thoughts because i want to be fast like baby but actually i'm probably going to be slow i really enjoyed this movie a great deal i like i think the performance by I don't know the actors. He plays Baby, but he was great. I love how subtle he was, how quiet the character is. And I think that goes to a great deal to his personality. And I think him being so quiet and subtle and the way his music also speaks to his personality and his charm as well, it gives the film a lot of emotional grounding. And I think that was such a fascinating choice and the trauma he's been through in his life and that he chooses to zone out. and go to an escape into his music.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And I think that's so fascinating because before I became a social butterfly myself, I would really escape into my music. And I still find times where I do that. As I've pointed out many times, movie music and 80s for me, that's my jam. So I really resonated with doing that. And I really loved the performance as well from Lily James.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I don't think I've really seen anything before this, to be quite honest, if I have, I'm zoning out. but I feel like I would remember her. She's got a face. I feel like I would not forget, or her personality. I think she was very charming in this film as well. I thought she was very warm and welcoming, and especially with baby's character.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I mean, he's really on a self-healing journey as well as a redemption journey in this film. So I think the fact that she was someone who was there for him emotionally and someone that he could go to and be expressive and could feel his feelings towards, I think was such a beautiful, match made in heaven and that they could find coddling with each other with music and just the way they
Starting point is 00:04:03 just had so much in common and I think it was their chemistry was really electric I feel both of them were so mesmerizing on screen together and I really dug the film I thought the the pacing was very frenetic but at the same time while it was extremely fast-paced it was very easy to stay on as well not get lost in the in the speed of the film so i dug the film a great deal might be recency bias but might be my favorite edgar right i have not seen all his films but i enjoyed this a great deal is very smart quick quick-witted fast-paced and i think it was i like the the complexities and the the deep exploration of these characters i thought was really great and also i love how unhinged and psychotic jami when we first met jami fox i really
Starting point is 00:04:54 thought his character is just this throwaway character that throwaway character but rather this guy who's just he's the bad guy on here and that's it I didn't think too much of him and then the more we got in I'm like holy shit he is so unhinged and so
Starting point is 00:05:09 relentless and he's really like I don't know how unpredictable he is I don't know what he's going to do next and that keeps me on my toes and edge as an audience member so I can only imagine it for a character who's got to interact with him you don't know what he's going to do next And that's a very scary feeling.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So, as you can tell, I hated the film. I loved it. It was great. Definitely. Greg. My ear's kind of hurting, like, from the headphones. Tonight is? Oh.
Starting point is 00:05:37 It's my voice. I do have a small case that's tonight. It's really, I usually have to sleep with a little something odd because, yeah, I have a constant ring in my ear. Oh, really frustrating. It's not like this where it's very clear. but if it is like completely silent i can hear it anyway uh yeah erin i watch the other outside of scott pilgrim versus the world i think this would be outside of last night in soho this i've seen every movie of his now on this channel oh wow because i've watched
Starting point is 00:06:09 scott pilgrim versus the world here it's a fascinating trajectory looking at what egger wright has done because the the trilogy of films he did with simon peg and nick frost are riffs on the genre in a way that is very homage-like, you know, a little spoof-like. They are their own films, and the world's end demonstrates. It's like, right? I just hearing the noise that cut movement. I'm just hearing that so much. The world's end is the one that I thought demonstrated the most, like, dramatic maturity.
Starting point is 00:06:52 of his and Scott Pilgrim versus the world I felt like in the finale parts of it I was kind of like yeah this movie seems like it's going on a little too long for me whereas this one man I love Scott Bilgan versus the world
Starting point is 00:07:05 I love that I love pretty much all the movies he's done and this one is one he wrote and directed himself it is entirely original and it's cool because it is essentially
Starting point is 00:07:19 riff on a lot of these getaway drive I was recalling how this came out relatively around the same time as the movie Drive, which is again another one that's a riff on it, but in a very different type of tempo and speed. This is a classic example of that of the getaway driver and fantasies and they and slowly flipping on its head, but I wasn't as hyper aware of the tropes during this experience. I feel like they get a lot of that out of the way in the first 30-ish-ish. minutes of the film at around that point when I was going, what the hell is the plot
Starting point is 00:07:56 in this movie going to be? Because it seems like he's done now. So when it kept going in the latter half, a lot of that originality really began to sing. And this is one of those films where the star of the movie would really like the highlighting of the directing and the editing. Really the script, though, seems like that's where the foundation of this needed to be cemented because so much of the exciting turns that happen, the bad guy trope was the one that was so unexpected the way it was kind of like hot potato with bad guy first it seems like
Starting point is 00:08:28 Kevin Spacey you're the full on bad guy and then okay looks like it's going to be Jamie Fox now but they set up enough of buddy John Hamm early on in the diner to let you know he's a little bit on hinge too he can be a little bit crazy and you and they really set up how much John
Starting point is 00:08:44 Ham and Isaac Gonzalez love the shit out of each other so when that turn happens it's going to make a lot of sense and it is you know baby is responsible for a good, like, he did botch the job and landed them in that position. And then John Hamm is. And then at the time John Ham shows up in the finale,
Starting point is 00:09:01 Kevin Spacey's now doing something good. And you're like, what the hell? Why am I liking Kevin Spacey now? Like the way it plays with all that was done in very surprising ways whilst being a hyper cool edited movie where the music is a character in and of itself
Starting point is 00:09:18 that is often dictating the emotional state of the character or whether that be the way he's doing it with his father or just in the car ride or taking a walk. I think it's an amazingly composed film. I still feel like I would edge out Sean of the Dead as my favorite one of his movies. But this is a really, really, really close second, I would say.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And for the longest time, you know, I did see this years ago. I maybe didn't stick with me because I remember this movie being so hyped but me not being as enamored with it I mean eight years ago I was a very different human being I feel like I'm a completely different person like every two years
Starting point is 00:09:59 and to watch it now I loved it I thought this was like an expert crafting film me right down to the very end because at the end the day baby was a criminal and consequences need to be paid so I like that everyone
Starting point is 00:10:15 suffers consequences for their actions including our main character he gets to pay his dues and get a still get the reward but he also gets to pay his consequences simultaneously so yeah i thought it was like a pretty near perfect experience of a movie that was near and perfect i still haven't seen drive gotta see them yeah it's really it's one of my favorites i know this uh yeah i just uh yeah echoed your sentiments i also really love the movie i thought it did a really great job of being a movie that utilize a screen time extremely well it was extremely well-paced the
Starting point is 00:10:50 performances from everybody were in tone with the script and in tone with the rhythm of this movie Kevin Spacey kind of said it early on had that almost like a musical tone to him as well whenever he was speaking and the dialogue which was so snappy the chemistry between our two
Starting point is 00:11:07 leads was incredible and even though we didn't know too much about Deborah you felt how much she loved baby and you felt how much he loved her in the end and yeah all these different pieces that were placed throughout the course of the movie and how they were interwoven into this beautiful tabestry that was
Starting point is 00:11:26 conceived from the moment that, I don't know, Edgar Wright wrote it, but also just these things that you can catch in the moment, but also one of those things that make it endlessly rewatchable because there's these little details you're going to catch with every subsequent viewing. And every semblance of action that sort of showed up on screen had this fluidity to it and this um this energy that was also musical in of itself and i really appreciated it for that and also appreciated the the variety of music the way that you're able to make something that is so in tandem with one another and obviously we're become accustomed to living in a world where you know james gun is very big on putting music in
Starting point is 00:12:11 his movies and it's it's so interesting seeing a movie revolve a around that, not only because something that the main character does, but he clearly is something that Edgar Wright loves. I'd be curious to see like something that's behind the scenes of this or like what inspired Edgar Wright to write this, not only about, you know, his love for the genre, but the love for the music choices that he created over the course of the movie. So yeah, I really, really enjoyed it. And I'm excited to get into the questions.
Starting point is 00:12:42 For sure. I was just going to say I can really tell. And this is not a far-fetched comment that most people love Terminator 2 Judgment Day, but I can really tell Edgar Wright loves Terminator 2 Judgment Day, and that makes me appreciate him a great deal. Hell, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Appreciate it all those visual references. He was giving us from the stepping on the sunglasses to the final shot in Terminator 2, driving into the unknown void of the road, and some of those other shots was like, good man, Edgar, right? Good man. I need to rewatch Terminator 2.
Starting point is 00:13:10 You really do need to. It's a movie that everyone should rewatch 5 or 10 times a year, and I think Greg would agree with that. I would. All right, guys. We're going to get into the Patreon questions now, so let's get it started. Jaden Rhodes.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Thank you for setting another question, man. This movie uses music to mix in with certain stuff, like gunshots is amazing. It's my favorite thing about this movie. Do y'all really like that or do you... I'm sorry. Do y'all really like that or do, but I'm not sure how you couldn't?
Starting point is 00:13:42 Greg Yeah, I think the way it's infused is great Because it There are directors who like to write to songs, write to music You just cite a James Gunn Quentin Tarantino often has tracks in mind to Before he makes certain films Sometimes though
Starting point is 00:14:03 It can feel Stylish in a distracting way Sometimes it The first one? that's the best movie ever what are you guys talking about yeah the David Ayer one in a sense yeah
Starting point is 00:14:19 that was a very studio one though I'm talking sometimes a director can make that choice where like I get it you're it's cool and it's stylish but it's self-indulgent to the point where it's kind of distracting and it feels like surface and that's why I wanted to make sure to highlight
Starting point is 00:14:35 Edgar Wright's writing first and foremost because the cherry on top is his brilliant we all know he's like a brilliant director and works great with his cinematographers. Like this is a beautifully shot film, beautiful looking film,
Starting point is 00:14:51 and these music sequences in particular are using a variety of demonstrating who the characters are, telling you the emotion about the scene, allowing to be backdrops for the visual language like when the characters are falling in love with each other, his relationship with Joe, but then also to enhance action scenes.
Starting point is 00:15:07 You know, I like when the gunshots are timed to the music itself. it's almost it's almost like a music video so it makes it kind of transportive but I was never going wow style you know I was I was in the story the whole time yeah and that's the hardest thing I think to accomplish when you are this good at style for sure is being distracting with your style and I've I didn't ever and especially like the last hour 30 minutes of this film or something you know like this movie's almost two hours and and I'd say like a good three-fourths of it the last three forts i was just enamored with the story
Starting point is 00:15:44 it's like truly enveloped and the music's there the whole time so i think the the music reels you in more versus going look at me you know yeah well first what i will say is release the air cut and then second after that i will say i think music should be expressive of how the characters are feeling first and foremost and i think this movie does a great job of that and when i think also what this movie does a great job, allowing you to get inside the head of baby. And I feel like every song was really doing a good job, whether that was an actual gunshot or what's that thing called
Starting point is 00:16:22 with the thing you have, Tinnitus. All those were being very, like allowing us the audience to literally go inside Baby's head. And I've had times where it could even be during a reaction, could be during a baseball lesson, could be driving a car. I am literally hearing music inside my head sometimes and I'm not even listening to me.
Starting point is 00:16:41 music. So I think that Edgar Wright did such a brilliant job of actually putting us inside of baby's head. And I found that to be so damn creative and so fascinating. And I love that choice to do that. Yeah. No, I thought it was great. I really loved the music and the way it was paired in the movie. You know, it's an extension of, of baby himself. And the way that we were able to, yeah, be inside of his head really worked for me. And, the restraint that Edgar Wright had shown over the course of the movie his indulgence is love but also
Starting point is 00:17:17 his restraint and not going overboard and kind of being like look how cool the song is like every song had had purpose and I really appreciated this so yeah I thoroughly enjoyed it. That's the difference between Edgar right and me I would have been like look how cool this song is because I'm arrogant like that
Starting point is 00:17:33 smart man all righty Jay Rushden what up Jay thank you so much for being a royal reject and for asking the question we appreciate you question what is your favorite music in the film here i would go with tequila just because i'm always in the mood to drink so i would say that one and that's just such a catchy tune what about you and also i think like with the explosion that happened right and they all the characters literally went tequila i think that was just such a bombastic and cool note to end that scene with that
Starting point is 00:18:04 with that note so and saying that words i like i like that song what about you guys i think my favorite song in the movie is easy like Sunday morning. It's just a classic, but I think the one that works. The best, as far as it being in tandem with the movie, was the one during the first car chase, where baby singing the words and the editing that's played
Starting point is 00:18:23 there. I don't know the name of that song, but I thought it was really, yeah, really effective. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Frank's figuring his out right now. There it is. I'm figuring out at Aaron's song. It's Bell bottoms.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Okay, well bottoms. Yep. That's great. I'll have to listen to that one later. When the baby is running. Oh, that was a good one. Hocus, pocus by focus. I like, damn.
Starting point is 00:18:52 That's a good one. I think the one I'm not going to forget, though, is the Deborah one. Debra Zebra. Because the emphasis on lyrics and I'm terrible at remember people's names to begin with, much less a character's name. and when I was like, what's her name? And then I would remember the scene. And so it actually, like, stuck with me.
Starting point is 00:19:13 This movie does a really good job at getting you to remember. Like, they kind of repeated enough in certain ways and added up emphasis on nicknames and why to get you to recall who is who in a really good point. Really good way. I will vouch for Greg the first time he interacted with me via social media after we had met. He called me Aaron. So I will doubt where he does not remember names. Well, sometimes.
Starting point is 00:19:37 That's funny. All right. Oh, yeah. Mike and Loxley, if you had to pick a skill like this, but it comes with a drawback, what would you choose? I already have to deny this. I'll take some sweet driving skills. Who, what skill would I pick? I already got so many skills.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I don't quite get the question. Like, if you could have any sort of, like, a skill you don't currently possess, but there's, like, a drawback to whatever that skill is. like his is like driving but you know having the tinnitus or like i would uh be okay with losing my sense of smell so i can be sick at guitar okay all right i would lose my sense of feeling and uh so i could be sick at knowing the lottery ticket numbers that'd be cool with that all right and uh i'm gonna get stretchy powers and i can't get an erection all right that's my
Starting point is 00:20:36 are willing to sacrifice some horrible what's the point of getting stretchy powers if you can't get an erection why would you want to win the lottery if you can't have feelings? Well it's I can't feel that means I can get really drunk and I can't throw up. This is a good thing Greg. I can celebrate
Starting point is 00:20:52 my billions of skills. You mean physical feeling? Okay I can be translucent. Not being nauseous anymore. That's what I'm talking about. Weird sacrifices. I'm just thinking on the spot I'd have to really think about this question. I'll answer in the comments when I think deeply about this. How much do you value your sense of
Starting point is 00:21:08 smell? Not much. Okay, that's an easy sacrifice for you. Who said it had to be a hard sacrifice? Oh, man. I'm sure tonight is, I mean, you have it, so, you know, I don't have to that degree where I need to drown it out constantly. Fair. But I do hate pure silence because of that. Damn. All right. Well, we picked our things. What are you guys
Starting point is 00:21:32 things? What would you guys sacrifice? Love to hear. resident z what's up dog uh i've been had me too by him what do you mean this movie isn't about a guy driving a baby around i thought this was good i thought this was going to be tom sellick steve guttenberg and steve goodenberg and ted dancing just driving babies around i mean if you know they listen to jamie fox it would have been that it would have been a very different trajectory of the movie uh but all kidding aside i do love this movie
Starting point is 00:22:06 more of a silly question but everybody in the crew had code names to protect their identities if you were part of a crew what would your code name movie movie reference that's your code name
Starting point is 00:22:19 yeah that's a long code name all right reference what's your code name it's a pretty cool name reference reference all right my you're looking at me
Starting point is 00:22:28 like how dare you pick that my code name would be if yours comes to mine first and I feel like quote i'd call you quote quote quote's pretty cool okay quotes a cool adjective
Starting point is 00:22:40 yeah that's tough I don't know let me smalls this guy's a big fan of the sandlot you know make an ironic name
Starting point is 00:22:55 called Mel Gibson so Mel Gibson Greg we're gonna fight right after this man Roxy and I'll take you on though I do love him he's a great actor so your reference you're Mel Gibson and I'm Mell Gives.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Give me back my name, Greg. Resident Z, what's your nickname, Matt? Thank you for sending in. The fun question. Alan Smithy, thank you, Alan, for being a royal reject and for asking a question. We appreciate it. Hey, Greg, Andrew, and Aaron.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Hey, Alan. Hope you loved Baby Driver. What is your favorite song or piece of music in the daily soundtrack of your own life? Like, when you're driving around, what music are you black? I'm a Beastie Boys fan Because I'm rhyming and stealing
Starting point is 00:23:39 Thanks Rejects You guys want to take this away first You want me to go You know It really varies Depending on my mood So lately I've been listening To a lot of Laughfully
Starting point is 00:23:51 She's been a great Rotation in my list But honestly The one I keep coming back to It's probably Hamilton I listen to Hamilton a lot It's just the songs are so much Give me those quotes in the past
Starting point is 00:24:04 Before Greg and I react I'm like, I don't know what you're referencing or singing right now. You're like, one day you will. Now I'm like, okay, now I understand this. Yeah, it's good to know. Hamilton on long drives always listen to the song, Non-Stop and My Shot and Theodosia, all the songs. Those are my go-toes.
Starting point is 00:24:23 What's you, man? Lately, I've been really in a glass animals. And, you know, like my favorite artist are Eminem and Red Hot Chili Peppers. But in terms of like when I'm exercising, which is very much the only time I'm listening to music. I don't really listen to music in the car. The only time I'm really listening to music is when I'm working out. And I find myself listening to either one of those artists or, funny enough, the Hampton String Quartet. They do like orchestral tributes.
Starting point is 00:24:57 That sounds good. And also a good amount of. of Lady Gaga randomly. Really? Yeah. He's a big fan of Joker, if all I do. That's why. That's why.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I like Hocus Pocus by Focus. That's a good song. I've told you guys before. I love movie music. I think I'm going to echo Aaron's sentiments that it really depends on my mood. I could be Danny Elfman, could be Hans Zimmer, could be the greatest of all time. Mr. John Williams, I do need to listen to Alfred Newman,
Starting point is 00:25:28 who apparently is one of the greatest composers of all times. got to listen to some of his music for sure 80s music i've been listening to a lot of thriller by michael jackson lately but also it's because i just recently watched one of my favorite comedies which i hope gregg allows to become a reaction on this channel that's the 1984 film revenge of the nerds and there is a great needle drop of that song in that film and a great scene of that film of that song rather in that film so yeah definitely been listening to that song so it just depends on my mood what i'm feeling so yeah sweet do you guys think there's any areas for improvement in this movie um it's tough because i'm someone
Starting point is 00:26:09 who normally really values like character depth but i felt like the type of story that we had i think that the intention behind character depth is to get inside the mind of the character and to understand and empathize with them a little bit more maybe see yourself in these characters but i feel like this movie did a good job of getting you on that side of with the characters without having to go too deep into what their stories were. I would have liked a little bit more info about Lily James and, like, her. What, it's not the type of movie, but, you know, it's not an everyday thing. You like, you ride or die with a guy who's like a criminal and you see him shoot somebody.
Starting point is 00:26:45 You're like, yeah, I think I'm going to still right with this guy. He lied about his name and everything else about him, but, you know, I love him, so we're going to do it. But, you know, I think about their chemistry was so palpable. It makes it believable. But outside of that, I didn't really have any issues. I really loved it. Yeah, I totally agree with you. I think you guys know what level of improvement I would have liked.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Definitely a little more John Bernthal. Would have saved me a thousand bucks at least. But having said that, I really enjoyed this film. Right now, I'm thinking about it, and I don't think there's too much more. There was one thing I did not touch upon that I thought was great. Greg made an excellent point earlier, and when he was talking about how there's a subversion of expectations when it comes to who you think the main villains are, and then they keep swapping it out, think was so brilliantly done by Edgar Wright.
Starting point is 00:27:31 It's Kevin Spacey. It's John Bernthal. It's Jamie Fox. And then you got John Hamm and Isaac Gonzalez. And what I loved about Isaac Gonzalez and John Ham's character is they are actually well. Whereas John Bernthal and Jamie Fox are ostracizing and getting on baby because he's very reserved and quiet and not very socially and socially awkward. And so they're getting on him for that. Whereas John Hamm and Isaac Gonzalez, they respect him and they're kind of him and welcoming to him.
Starting point is 00:28:04 And then to see that shift into a very climactic and combative way because of what happens, the job is botched. Like it actually, like it sucks and it's tragic, but it was such a really well done way that I didn't right away see coming. But then when it happens, it's like, wow, that was really well executed. and it's it's tragic to see even though they are the villains of course you know that shit was going to go down but I like that there was that contrast between Jamie Fox
Starting point is 00:28:38 Kevin Spacey and John Bernthal the way they treated him and the way these two and then how this is the final villain towards him in terms of because of this vendetta he has that he's with baby being responsible for taking out his woman with the cops
Starting point is 00:28:54 and all that so I thought that was just brilliantly executed. Did you have any issues? I would agree with you on the Lily James side because I do feel like every character here has depth except the female characters. I think Isaac Gonzalez lacks depth. I feel like
Starting point is 00:29:10 we learned a lot about John Berthel even if it's not fully confirmed. I think we got enough I feel like what makes Jamie Fox effective is that you don't learn a lot about him. You just have ideas and you learn about him through his actions more. Whereas, with Isaac
Starting point is 00:29:26 Gonzalez, she's the girlfriend, you know, and she gets off on when he gets violent for her in the name of her. Yeah. Outside of that, you know, she doesn't really get to be a character. Fair enough. She's just, like, literally the women are there for the men in this movie. True. And I think that we missed an opportunity there for, I really didn't notice it too much about Lily James until you pointed that out. I was like, huh, weird.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I didn't really notice it, but then I was thinking about it when you said it. Like, oh, yeah, you're right. So those would probably be the only two elements. I was initially going to, when I was watching this, sometimes when we watch these movies, I'll be having a thought that I'll go, oh, yeah, remember to say that when we're reviewing the movie. And initially I was going to point out Jamie Fox
Starting point is 00:30:13 feeling too comically bad guy at first because he wasn't scary or menacing at first. He just seemed like to just like so one hinge. I don't know why anyone would ever work with this guy. He's supposed to be a professional. He just kills all the time. Like at any random moment. How could you ever?
Starting point is 00:30:28 Who would work with this guy? So I had like questions about why someone as smart as Kevin Spacey would do that. But. Gets the job done. And the latter half after killing all the people with the guns, the, the arms dealers, he started getting really scary. And I started really liking what he was doing in the movie. So that criticism went away. Yeah, outside of that.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Tells me he's a guy you don't say no to. There was a point in the movie where we're like, I have a prediction about Kevin Space, but then you're like, I'll reserve it. because I don't want to predict her in the movie. Do you remember what it was? Yeah, and it didn't come true. You should have made a $1,000 back. I could have said it because it was my prediction was going to be that Kevin, I 100% just don't recall so much of this.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I thought it was going to be Kevin Spacey was hiring Jamie Fox and Jamie Foxxer takeout. I thought Jamie Fox was going to kill John Hammond. That's what I thought was going to happen. And I thought like that was the whole thing was he was set. That's why Kevin Spicer was working with him because he was hired to, take them out after the job which was none there wasn't even a hint of that
Starting point is 00:31:31 you and I were on the same you and I were on the same board I was thinking the same thing yeah that was my that was my one thing I like that he pulled this up I don't I don't mind that Bernthal was barely in it I feel like weirdly it made more of an impression that he was barely in this movie I kept thinking about
Starting point is 00:31:48 him throughout so I is he's a great act we love him if he wasn't famous we wouldn't have thought about it yeah because he's famous we thought about it and I love how he has a mysterious cameo appearance and then you go I guess his character died and when you kept seeing them
Starting point is 00:32:04 swap out different crews it makes sense too that he doesn't come back it's just it's interesting because it didn't seem like his character and Jamie Fox's character were two different not really seem like they're kind of hot heads I could have also seen like they're they're secretly friends and then
Starting point is 00:32:20 he was coming back like because this is the big score you're not leaving me out of this and they're really friends and like he told him about the job i thought something like that was coming but apparently kevin space he's a dick on set so yeah which we're reading in front of us that's why i guess he wasn't in he was written out of the movie because he hated working kevin spacey um but yeah but it's fortunate that his last line is if you don't see me it means i'm dead they probably wrote that because he was like all right we know he hates working with this guy so we'll just like get him out i'd be
Starting point is 00:32:50 curious to know if if luck just turned out that way yeah you know sometimes you do get lucky with that where they just they just happen to have this vinyl line or unlike on this this is unfortunately the first example that comes to mind sad one is the the actor chance on gen v how they establish his character in season one has a thing that could kill him in his brain so when the actor unfortunately died they happened to have a narrative that set up to say goodbye to his character yeah you know So sometimes something does happen where, oh, well, we actually have something we could use. Yeah, they used it. And I was like, it's unfortunate, but it was smart.
Starting point is 00:33:35 For sure. They had no idea that that would be the thing that they would use. I would agree with you guys, but I've never seen it. So I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, yeah. We answered everything. Okay. I think we have one last thing, right?
Starting point is 00:33:47 I think we answered. We answered them all. We did them all. All righty, guys. Well, that'll be it for us today, you guys. Thank you so much for watching our baby. have a reaction. Let us know your additional thoughts in the comments. How do you feel? And also what's your favorite heist movie? We're going to speed on out of here. And until
Starting point is 00:34:03 next time, stay groovy.

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