The Reel Rejects - BLACK MIRROR "Eulogy" Season 7 Episode 5 Breakdown & Review

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Starting point is 00:00:38 This is how I fell after watching that episode of The Last of Us. What episode? The Nick Offerman one? Yeah, this is like the same feelings of just like, what an unbelievable episode of television. What a crazy love story. This one is just devastating. and how you can be your own worst enemy like his rage made him so blind

Starting point is 00:01:05 that he didn't get to be with the person he loved for the rest of his life one day of rage but that built up rage it's just crazy story it's crazy that Netflix was telling you to they were immediately going to move on to the next episode when I feel like actually listening to the music is a part of this story I didn't want to leave it

Starting point is 00:01:42 I just wanted to there was so much buildup to it yeah and the cello it's like you cut it short in memoriam did you see how many people that was in memoriam too

Starting point is 00:01:59 a lot Why? I don't know. They're dead. So many people that worked on that? Or the maybe people that the directors wanted to shout out. Why was there

Starting point is 00:02:11 so many people in memoriam for that? I don't know. I don't know. I'm so curious about that. Well, Roxy, take it away. I did. No, not enough. But I just, I feel like I took it away. I want to hear from you.

Starting point is 00:02:30 I have anger problems, and this resonated with me. Paul resonated with you? Yeah. I've had so many, I have so many memories of regret of, and I had opened up to Roxy about it recently. I have so many memories of regret of when you get so blinded by anger and how much that has, it's been,

Starting point is 00:02:57 as that's costly consequence. in life and so it's kind of interesting as I've been confronting a lot of this in my life how it's come across an episode like this so it actually hit me on like a real personal thing I love stories about grief I love love stories as well so to see a story of that the thing that really hits too is this guy is pitches himself as someone who's been through hell and back and he's done all this work on himself like as when the drinking happened I had to get clean and do all like he

Starting point is 00:03:35 like as if he's done all this shit already but there's still so much he had actually not truly confronted even though he thought it had already been dealt with and to unpack this to honor someone's memory for a eulogy

Starting point is 00:03:52 requires him to actually heal as well is something that's a beautiful dovetail like you're going into service for someone's funeral and it ends up serving you as well and making you a better person in the end hopefully right so I thought it was beautiful that was a really beautiful story yeah I'm super with you I think that it the hardest things to live with are the things that we could have changed that we didn't and she's now he's not finding this out when he's older and he can do something about it he's finding this out when she's dead yeah and there is

Starting point is 00:04:37 nothing when you mentioned it when we're watching the only thing to do is acceptance because you what happened happened and then you happened to yourself you were your own worst enemy she wanted to still be with you and you you're angry you're angry and you're angry you're angry made you so blind you literally didn't see the letter she wrote you and now an entire lifetime has gone by she is gone and you have to live with that and there are things that happen in each of our lives that we have to live with that we did and we caused yeah um and so it's just unbelievable but now the fact that he did go there shows he wants to move forward with his life in some capacity and you know maybe he can have a relationship with his daughter a daughter who

Starting point is 00:05:32 clearly didn't grow up with with a dad with a male figure she said she saw him four or five times in her life you know maybe he can find peace and find another lover that he finally feels not abandoned by because the stories we tell ourselves about our lives are often not true and the story he's been telling himself for decades is not true not to mention he never took ownership of the fact that he really she stepped out on him and I'm not saying it's right you shouldn't you shouldn't go tip for tat with someone

Starting point is 00:06:05 but only after finding out he cheated on her yeah and that he didn't take he was like we would have kept it a secret it was one time and he's saying that decades later after doing all the work and not saying and she the daughter calls him out like you keep saying she she she she um and it's like you loved this woman

Starting point is 00:06:25 and every actions have consequences and you still haven't admitted to what you did when someone usually when someone already has so much anger and then they experience

Starting point is 00:06:42 usually underneath the anger is a lot of hurt and sometimes it is the thing that is considered your default mode or your defense mechanism that you resort to because it's a behavior pattern you learn And I understand that.

Starting point is 00:06:56 Other times it can be that underneath that the person's really hurt. So if someone already has that much of a rage problem and anger and rage can go hand in hand ego, then you're dealt a big card of hurt. You can go into anger. Like one thing I was telling you is like one of my problems. And it's common, I believe it is, is that when I get so flooded and if I find myself now taking it out on someone in an argument, argument or whatever I feel like I'm right about everything and the last thing I'm doing is listening truly listening it's a good point I don't mean that about you I just mean in life yeah yeah interesting I don't feel like I'm really listening I don't really feel like the other

Starting point is 00:07:40 person's being heard so has it become a conversation or a dialogue something I really value in life is that and so when he's saying all these things like I would have her I'm like now I think what you want to was to argue I think we don't want was to fight with this person yeah that's a really interesting point, Greg, because here I am saying, like, if he had just read the letter, they could have lived happily together forever. But we actually don't know that. He might have read the letter. He might have been so pissed at what she did that he might have decided to not show up anyway. Or he might have decided to show up and then he might not have been able to get out of his own way because they could have just kept arguing and they would have ended a different

Starting point is 00:08:13 way. You know, there's so many possibilities when you have that built up anger. Yeah. And when someone dies, their memory are going to live on through the people they know that's how you that's a part of how you preserve someone's legacy how you part of how you preserve someone is the stories you can tell and share and to be able to offer this perspective and other memories to the daughter also allows is also of service to her now totally true you know I think that's this is beautiful and and also it reminded me of like the power of photos I think like we all snap stuff so much of the time But there was a difference back then when you would take a photo, you know, like, you know, like a Polaroid or something. Like you're really capturing a moment. And we take it for granted. And I'm sure a photo on a phone does not have that same effect. But yeah, there was more of a value to it. And like intentionality. Yeah, the intentionality. And like especially if you wanted to take a photo of that moment in time. And I like how it becomes like investigative. Like I'm like a right. Like

Starting point is 00:09:24 We're talking about the themes of it, but on like a writing level, like script. This was really freaking awesome. Completely. I want to mention something that you just briefly were touching on with the daughter, which is that generational trauma. And it lives in your bones and we can see it in her. That's why I predict it. You know, at first I was like, is this her?

Starting point is 00:09:43 And then I was like, oh, I think this is her daughter because this, we have to remember, they lived a whole life together. And in that life, the daughter is being told by the mom, I wrote to him. And he never showed up. He never responded. Perspective, man. And she feels, in her soul, like, it doesn't seem like the mom ever moved on either.

Starting point is 00:10:07 And so she's still, she's hurting for her mom and hurting for herself that they didn't, that this life was stolen. She, you know, she feels like, I'm sure, a million feelings at once. And so trying to access answers for that and go after that. this because her mom never got those answers and she saw what it did to her how that

Starting point is 00:10:31 manifested in her mom and she doesn't want that for herself um so i think that was really really smart too i also before we did this um i like to know for the black mirror just i only look up the directors to see if they've directed other episodes of black mirror because it's interesting to us to know and so this is seems like it's a writer-director duo and that this writer-director duo did a ton of music videos before this like really a Rolling Stones one I think a Harry Styles one like all over the map

Starting point is 00:11:03 and while this played like a play for you this really kind of felt like a great music video to me I think written like a play capture like a music totally and I think that is so cool where each set was so different but just the visuals of walking around

Starting point is 00:11:20 letters and tables and walking into these photos I just think that this was such a brilliant, they were the perfect writer-director duo for this. This was so beautifully captured. It just added to everything like you're talking about the value of a photo and taking a photo and then being able to relive that through the technology lens because it's black mirror.

Starting point is 00:11:44 This is what this show I feel like was created for. Yeah. For moments like this. And it does cause us to all look at our own lives the way that you did with yours and I am with mine. What ways am I just in my own way preventing myself from happiness because I can't get a grip on X, Y, Z? Yeah. You know, oh, I thought that that episode was brilliant.

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Starting point is 00:13:45 Review, important disclosures, acorns. For me, Acorns, Mighty Oaks do grow. Thank you again, Acorns, for everything that you do. I think it's one of the best episodes of Black Mirror ever. Yeah. Actually, yeah. Yeah. It doesn't have that, like, it's not the effect of, you know,

Starting point is 00:14:02 oh, this episode mess me up because of the fear of the future of technology. And it doesn't have that. It did kind of mess me up, though, because it's devastating. To be called Black Mirror, it is a reflective episode, though, you know. And the reflection qualities are so strong. Like the way it's written, I've, they, they have that sometimes where they get like a psychologist to come. And I think they call it like psychoscript, where they look at the characters and they make sure, like, everything is like psychologically accurate and they might give like points. Yeah. And it was so well fleshed out, his portrayal.

Starting point is 00:14:39 So true. That's like Paul Giamati is an incredible actor where of our greatest of our time. And the hybrid of writing. And I'm like, God, this is, this is beyond, like, feels so real. Like, you're watching a real guy with real memories and real responses, reactions and responses to situations. Every time I see him, I think it's his best performance yet. You know, right? He is one of those actors.

Starting point is 00:15:03 He's constantly, like, that's the best work he's ever done. When you watch us, it's like, is this the best work he's ever done? It's incredible. But I think that about every time I see him, he's really, he just puts it all out there. Well, I think it is like a play. too because it is really if you think about it's only two people looking at photos you know um but they trick the mind by going into the photos to make it seem like you're doing way more than that you know and really all you're doing is there are two people looking at photos there are two people talking in

Starting point is 00:15:33 different sets and so i think it's a brilliant way to make it engaging whilst making it a mystery not like the biggest stakes mystery but there's enough of a mystery to keep you hooked and you really feel like you're getting to know carol and their whole relationship through these like singular images that you're getting fragments of and to your point about the directors the i like how they would have these like motion blur things happening with them because that that can be like the thwarted parts of memories where it can feel fragmented but then as they keep diving in deeper things become clearer yeah and the ability of sound to to create sense memory the visual too that wasn't the blur effect but was more like that

Starting point is 00:16:16 octagon effect where it was like kind of like yeah yeah that was really pixelated octagon yeah that was really cool too yeah it was really cool and at first I'm like what are the changes he brings out three photos and none of them are of her face come on dude and then when we find out he has a million of her face he just jabbed them all out it's so relatable

Starting point is 00:16:39 it like is like when you're a teen lover or like you have a crush on somebody as a teen and you're upset and you never move and you take it i i have photos of my when i was a younger 18 my best friend um ended up sleeping with my boyfriend and i hated them both so much i cut them both out of photo you know like her him and so when then you see he adds it's not just her he's cut out it's every anybody he doesn't like he stabbed out the guy that was flirting with her he stabs out the person at the restaurant like he just it's anybody who's like he feels wrong by and it's it's interesting it's just very relatable emotions when you're

Starting point is 00:17:21 younger and you love somebody it's almost too much you're not mature enough to even like deal with what that means yeah the jealousy to any of that it's just this was so well portrayed like they really flesh out their relationship like you could you you pick up on the hints of the and there's in that kind of love a lot of the time it's not like oh the guy you know he got horny one day and cheated you could see this like tension building in their relationship based off of like little hints of dialogue they drop about distrust and jealousy that was forming in their dynamics it was so smart because they're going through a three year period and only through the lens of one person's perspective you know i was i thought this

Starting point is 00:18:11 was one of the most impressive pieces of television ever see because it's it's so short It's only like 40 minutes, 40-something minutes. Is that true? The runtime was like 47 and a half minutes. So when you factor in the credits and stuff, it's not that long. It's only like 45 minutes, maybe at most. Incredible. And they managed to tell like a perfect short story here that feels like, it feels like poetic, romantic,

Starting point is 00:18:37 melancholic, heartbreaking. The person who plays a daughter is also really great because that's exactly what I was just looking up because I recognized her. Sorry, keep going. I felt like she was an AI. guy at first you were convinced of the twist right away but they slowly left that

Starting point is 00:18:50 be unveiled and Patsy Farron is her name and I know her from Mickey 17 I haven't seen that yet I was like how do I know this person yeah I think this is a this is a very moving piece of television and

Starting point is 00:19:04 yeah this is great I loved it I loved it yeah I'm at 10 out of 10 on this one day yeah me too I thought that this was truly truly truly phenomenal. Oh, I lied about the

Starting point is 00:19:20 sorry guys, I lied about the writers being the directors. There's two different writers than directors. Charlie Brooker, I think, oh, that's right, I saw the credit, I don't realize. Charlie Brooker's a secondary writer to it. There's two writers, Ella Road and Charlie Brooker, who aren't the directors. The directors were the music video people,

Starting point is 00:19:36 but these are the people, oh, Charlie Brooker wrote... Taylorbroker wrote most of the black. He wrote most of the stuff, yeah. And 33. episodes of Black Mirror and uh he might be the showrunner punk of life that's interesting um let's see i actually don't know who the showrunner is i'm pretty sure that i gave credit to

Starting point is 00:19:57 somebody else for writing this um let's see i can google it showrunner of black mirror okay if we finish by 8 yeah he is he is the showrunner um and then the other person that wrote it. Ella. Do you know her? Uh-uh. Okay, let me look. Ella rode. Oh, you're jammed, Doctor Who. Hell yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:27 She wrote one episode, Doctor Who, this episode, Black Mirror, and two episodes of a show called 10%. That's it. That's interesting. Dope. Well, they did an absolute excellent job. Excellent, excellent work. Well, guys, what did you think about this episode?

Starting point is 00:20:44 Please leave your thoughts down below. beautiful music too by the way absolutely beautiful i love how the cello is a character thank you so much roxy say goodbye goodbye

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The Reel Rejects - BLACK MIRROR "Eulogy" Season 7 Episode 5 Breakdown & Review

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