The Reel Rejects - BLACK MIRROR Season 7 Hotel Reverie - Episode 3 Breakdown & Review

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Starting point is 00:01:00 thank you to liquid iv for sponsoring this video more on them in just a bit let's watch black mirror people let's hop into this journey that was the longest but it was the shortest episode yet and funny enough it's the second longest out of the whole sixth we're going to watch it oh gregg i love that so watch that was an actual movie about a movie making a movie oh I thought that was like perfect beautiful art just

Starting point is 00:01:37 I loved love love that before we hop in more thoughts prepper thanks for prepping it down prepper for all the editing you've been doing thank you you're the

Starting point is 00:01:50 pepper to our salt well we watch black season seven episode three today roxy please how do we even possibly begin to discuss this this was a journey this really was like do you feel how i feel uh yeah it was uh it was an experience this one out of the three i was like this was an experience yeah man yeah i was i was like glued it was such a crazy cool complicated premise That was this beautiful, simple love story.

Starting point is 00:02:31 It's crazy. They bit off so much, and they chewed it all. And it just was so perfect. And, like, you don't realize at first we know that she was unwell, the Dorothy was. But then when you realize, when she talks about being in a cage, and then you start to figure out, like, oh, she's in the 40s. She's an actress. She was Easter Ray's character had her own problems with not being able to be the one pursuing.

Starting point is 00:03:01 Think about the problems that this woman had. She couldn't even be herself. She couldn't, you know, just in different times and love transcends all times. And just every theme that I love in a show or a movie, this had it. Every, and the performances, the score, I told you got to look it up. I could like gush about this forever. I just loved this episode. yeah that was uh that was heart i was heartbreaking but but wasn't this the most uplifting of the

Starting point is 00:03:31 three uplifting yeah i mean it's a it's a it's a really unique love story because i i often have like the when i'm watching black mirror especially because of how the show really used to be i often find myself in the mindset of like okay what are they talking about what's the commentary and i like whenever they do something where they lean into like a love story. There's that one episode of McKenzie Davis and it's another gay love story in a

Starting point is 00:04:03 simulation world where your consciousness gets uploaded. What season? I don't remember what season it was. I'm trying to remember what season. It's like she lives in the 80s and then they're actually gay but one of them's old in real life and dying and you remember that one? It's kind of ringing bell. Let me try to find it. But yeah, that was another love story

Starting point is 00:04:19 one that really affected me a lot. And I would say this is like similar in a way that I love all the complex layers because it goes so far past like driving home some cautionary tale message yeah oh yeah

Starting point is 00:04:34 San Junipero yeah that's cool that's cool you hit my screen so I can't read read the rest yeah that's where I know the name Juniper from Juniper was with packages from that's really cool so San Junipero was season 3 episode 4

Starting point is 00:04:49 so that's probably why it's hard for me remember considering I watched it in 20 16, which was a decade ago. I could not. It was playing on my brain every time I was hearing Juniper. But yes, and we were saying USS Callister, but that was another simulation episode. Yeah. That's about uploading like your consciousness.

Starting point is 00:05:09 So you can choose to die or you can live on there. Yeah. When Yorkie and Kelly visit San Junipero, a fun loving beach town full of surf, sun and sex, their lives are changed. And yeah, that's another one about love. between two women and and i think it won an emmy prime time emmy award for outstanding television movie it's a great episode and yeah this feels like i forgot about that completely this feels like a spiritual sequel to that it's very it's similar in all the right ways but in a little bit more i gotta rewatch it oh man that's that's one of the i think that might be hailed as one of the best

Starting point is 00:05:45 black mirror episodes generally speaking yeah i definitely i got to go do a rewatch it's been a really long time since i've uh seen some of the earlier seasons um but be like it it's not a hundred percent the same thing um but there's enough similar themes to it i i like that it does start off with you know hey we're going to do a bit of that like a i technological angle about you know uh remember when they were talking about bringing james dean back around that time they wanted to like bullshit like that and then there was like what was it marilyn monroe with the vacuum commercial that was a big deal yeah and so those are you such like an ethical debate about when you use AI characters of like former people who used to be alive

Starting point is 00:06:29 an ethical debate and an entire strike yes yes indeed um still still confused on what the rules are and this so this starts off in a way where i feel like we're going to be doing some like crazy unpacking about the uh the implications but i like how it leaned into the um emotional constructs that could actually do. And it had managed to do something that was also being, um, a commentary on classic Hollywood. You know, there was a lot of that going on back then of people who had like these secret depressed lives, actresses, actors, people who were like closet homosexuals as well. The 27 club, just people who died young, drug for all different reasons. Yeah. And I think like Emma Corrin, Emma Carin's her name. Uh, they, they embodied.

Starting point is 00:07:21 Yeah, I got to get the pronoun. They, them? Yeah. I care to. I care to get it down. I want to get it down. So. Well, I do find it just as a side note.

Starting point is 00:07:33 It's challenging because we're talking about the actor is the, there's three, there's Emma Corrin, there's Dorothy, and then there's, what's the third person's name? Dorothy's playing Clara. Clara, Claudia? Yeah, Clara. So I think it's challenging because we're talking about two characters that are women. yeah true but anyway emma corin

Starting point is 00:07:55 well emma corin have you not seen them in much other than in the Marvel franchise yeah I've always seen Deadpool Wolverine okay so they were also the star of what's the name of the show that they were excellent in other than the crown where they played Princess Die it's the end of the fucking world or something like that

Starting point is 00:08:12 that's the name oh is there in that one yeah and I've seen Emma is like ridiculously talented So I'm not surprised by this at all. What was the name of that? Oh, and Nosephratu as well, which you've seen. Oh.

Starting point is 00:08:29 What were there Nosephratu? And the... And Ernsteader Johnson's wife? Yes. Oh, yeah. Okay. What was the name of... A murder at the end of the world.

Starting point is 00:08:41 That was the name of the show I was trying to say. I see. Which they were the star of also. And like I said, Princess Die in a season of the Crown. Yeah, really, really unbelievably talented. This will be the role that they have left the impact on my soul for. Yeah, I mean, it was like the most unbelievable performance.

Starting point is 00:09:04 And I feel like the chemistry between Emma and Issa was electric, especially because there were so many different versions of it. Like there's the version where Issa's just pretending. then there's the version where they're kind of like both pretending then neither are pretending and then it's like flipped in reverse anyway keep going sorry don't be sorry we're supposed to be talking i know but i cut you off well i guess at the beginning of the i really felt like transported because of where we started to where we ended i'm like oh wow we really went on a journey here

Starting point is 00:09:42 a life journey and they have to do that right because that's what they're going through this they're going on this whole life experience and when it starts off with the brandy character saying like personal career both and she's able to attain that in this journey yeah yeah how cool is that in one journey of doing this job so on the side of the commentary of like worst representation ever by the way worse or like our agency yeah worst rep of all yeah they said you package go on and do it And so if it's just for one day, but you don't even know you're shooting the movie today? Did you guys discuss how much that she's getting paid? Like, you didn't give her a heads up that this is virtual reality essentially?

Starting point is 00:10:25 Like, nothing? Okay, fire your agent, girlfriend. Continue. I think when they were doing like the producer side, that's when we were getting that commentary of the complete apathy towards what one might emotionally experience going. through this and the consequences of that how it was consistently about just do your job even though aquafina would express the concern um for brandy like coming out alive it it was still seemed like it rooted in getting the job done well not wanting the company to fall failed because you killed your lead yeah like yeah she was pissing me off i think aquafina crushed here but she was really

Starting point is 00:11:10 pissing me off. When we get back after the years that these two lovers have spent together and Aquafina's like, say the lines. And I was just like, you are heartless right now. And she's the one who knows the technology. So she's the one who's sharing with them like, she's been in there a little longer than we've been here. It's like, ask her anything. You're okay? I know this might be hard for you. Just say anything, girlfriend. It comes across, it comes across inconsiderate because she doesn't ask any questions no she's just like all right now that it's been you and she knows it's she knows that's a freaking journey for it it's like pick up where you left off like it's not you're you're you have you are aware of of this and the lack of consideration but that i think is what feeds into

Starting point is 00:11:57 that side of industry commentary of mining and using and abusing actors 100% for capital gain which a lot of the season seems to be about as well all right rejection quick personal update on January 25th that was 218 pounds as of today I'm down to 188 that's 30 pounds lost six pack Greg is coming in and while there's been a lot of factors one of the biggest keys has been keeping my energy up especially while having to up my cardio and to help out with that I've been drinking a little thing called liquid ivy every single day already a consumer before we ever partner with them lucky guy what can I say I like to take their sugar-free hydration formula and honestly I do feel a difference.

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Starting point is 00:14:21 light she did candy she did shiva baby she did sanctuary she did happy face which is on now dying for Okay, so she's done so much stuff. Makes sense. She's done two episodes of Black Mirror. Let's see what the other one was. Maisie Day, which I think you said that you didn't like. What? What the hell's a Maisie Day?

Starting point is 00:14:48 That's the one was Zazzy Beat. Oh, no, I like that one. Oh, I thought you said you didn't like that season. No, no, no. That was what I was talking about the supernatural stuff when we were speaking about which episodes were in Supernatural. Yeah. Okay.

Starting point is 00:15:01 I wasn't a fan of the Miley Cyrus one. I know. And that part I heard you say, which I'm devastated about. Wow, she's done so, so many. A couple of episodes, American Horror Stories. I love that show. Yeah, me too. A ton of other shows, but the fact that she did Shibba baby also.

Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah, I think she just did, like, literally the world's perfect job. I think on the writing level, it's really hard to do what they did here because you have to flesh out of a film basically and yeah it's it's inspired by a bunch of classic films so they are like doing something derivative of that you still have to like flesh it out because that that's going to create your construct of rules and the guideline for how your whole story is going to play out and then you're going to make a whole other story on top of that to then mess with the rules and then so your rules are a whole movie that you got to play within that's really hard to put together and they managed to do in a way that was easy to follow the plot easy to follow

Starting point is 00:16:02 how the movie's supposed to unfold and never feeling like too much of a cluster and complicated in all all the right ways it's such a good point because i i also think if you were thinking too much about the technology behind this you would probably start to get annoyed and frustrated but the story was so compelling that it was just like they painted enough of a picture for us and I was like, yeah, okay. That's how it works. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's also, there's a wonder to it because it would be pretty cool to step into a movie world.

Starting point is 00:16:32 If they were able to do that where you could... Stop saying that and trying to take my future job. I'm saying not as an actor. I'm saying, let's say there was like a theme park. Imagine if like you can go to, yeah, like pay to go into like the middle earth, Lord of the Rings. And you're able to have the experience where you kind of like a Westworld. Don't bring up Lord of the Rings with me. I have trauma around that my reactions you see you've seen Westworld right yeah I totally

Starting point is 00:16:59 get what you're yeah so if they could do that with movies that would be I mean I'd be awesome it sounds terrifying because you have to hook up your consciousness to it but it would be like kind of cool to actually explore that yes it would but I want everybody to remember what a bad job Issa Ray was doing in her performance in that because you're not fully immersed and you're in a different you're not playing off but that's that's why I love the writing so much because she was doing terrible. On purpose. I don't mean Issa Ray as being a bad actress.

Starting point is 00:17:29 I mean, whatever, Alex playing, whoever. Brandy was playing Alex. Brandy was doing a bad job. Because, yeah, she has no preparation for what she's going into. So the whole, every line she had was like, this is wild and weird. And that's how every, that was a subtext, all her delivery. So then when the switch happened after she gets thrusted back in time,

Starting point is 00:17:51 suddenly all her line reading sounds real. because it's all coming from a real emotional pain that is now being thrown into the dialogue of the character, like how it is for Dorothy, and that's how they were able to access the reality of Dorothy and make that part of, like, their DNA of whatever the hell computer mumbo-jumbo there is. And I appreciate that attention to detail of hearing that,

Starting point is 00:18:18 like we've heard about, you know, like, I don't forget what role it was where, yeah, Marilyn Monroe would do a couple of roles, or then Audrey Hepburn back then too would they have that role and there was like I'm gonna really throw myself into there this is my chance and a lot of actors have that where they kind of are doing

Starting point is 00:18:33 their thing and then they find those roles where I want to take something super serious and they throw a lot of their personal self into it like that whole montage where Dorothy was accessing her memories and the woman who she was really in love with on set that was so beautiful and heartbreaking or at least

Starting point is 00:18:51 the woman she like lusted after I don't know that she ever got to. Sure. Yeah, that's fair. I like that that we don't really, it's not really about that. Yeah. Because then if they went too far into that, then Brandy might have been like a project. I agree.

Starting point is 00:19:06 Projecting her love on her instead of actually fall in love with actual brandy. Exactly. Yeah. So that was strong stuff. Okay, so rank them for me. You love ranking of the three? Yeah, it is weird. I don't know why I keep making you do that.

Starting point is 00:19:20 It's a thing you like to ask. I think. Not always. I would say this is one out of the three. I would say one and then one would be two and then two would be three. But I love them all. I think that all three have been amazing. So three one, two.

Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah. Me too. Yeah. I think they've all been incredible. They've all been really, it's really strong season so far. Yeah, it's really, oh, it's so beautiful too at the end when she's able to make the phone call to the screen test. And that good, because at a point, she's talking to the actual Dorothy and helping influence. the role that she got and like I know weird meta was I know it's not time travel but it's like influencing it in its own weird meta way yeah and finding that like genuine connection where you go back from the detachment of what the industry has become to the heart of connection of the art you know I think it's beautiful it was a beautiful story I'm glad we're ending on this one for today you too I'm worried about where we're going to go because we know we have three more episodes of the season and two of them are sequel.

Starting point is 00:20:22 which is that's yeah well this is a spirit to me this is a spiritual sequel a 100% it's they have the juniper reference juniper reference totally makes sense but the other two i think are are actual yeah sequel sequels like same actors sequels i don't know because it's will polter is in the bandersnatch sequel and um christin moliati is the star of the yeah i think so the black mirror ads have made it very clear that this that that will be a direct sequel i'm wondering if Will Poulter's character is carrying over, but maybe he's not a bandersnatch sequel. Yeah, that's a good point. I'm not sure. But yeah, like how they've been like tying this in a lot.

Starting point is 00:21:01 They've been, they've created their black mirror world. And I'll say so far, as, you know, when you're doing a black mirror, you have to kind of compose your, how you're going to release these episodes, how you would an album because you're going to be going through different songs. And I think as, I mean, there are three very different ones with some similarities. I think the way they're lining it up is making for a surprisingly great flow. Yeah, totally. For people who are binging.

Starting point is 00:21:31 Like us. That was beautiful. What did you guys think about this episode? Leave your thoughts. I hope they loved it like we did. I hope so too. I mean, if I'm looking back, like it took me a little bit of time to get into it because there was something about the. The artifice of the execution of like the people on the computer.

Starting point is 00:21:52 computers and behind the scenes that I wasn't fully buying at first I don't know why I was feeling a little too fake to me but then eventually I got I got so absorbed into it there are a lot of plot holes about the industry right like your your rep couldn't just send you like that you couldn't just pitch something and then what have it be one day and she flies and doesn't know and doesn't know her lines but then she does know her lines so I was getting a little caught up at the beginning too with some of the semantics but then I just was swept away yeah you get lost in that when they're When the journey actually really kicks off and things start to change. Yeah. I think it's swam me up in all the right ways. And it's about being a classic love story. I like that they told a classic love story in a modern day technological world. Totally. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:37 Totally. What did you guys think? Leave your thoughts down below. Thank you so much for being here. Roxy. We're ending at a reasonable time today. That doesn't matter to you guys, but for us it matters. You literally said you'd be happy if we ended 40 minutes ago.

Starting point is 00:22:52 I said if we ended up by 8.30, we're fine. I mean, I still got like a few hours of work left, but I'm happy. Let's go. Thank you, guys. Melissa. Taylor. My goodness. Well, do we need to say more?

Starting point is 00:23:08 It's your first shout out. M stands for Monarch, because you got secrets lurking in the basement of your life. E stands for Ebullient, which is a word I'd definitely know the definition of and so do you because you're a bullion. L stands for loquacious, which means curvature of the hips.

Starting point is 00:23:35 I stands for intonation, which I assume yours are very delightful and engrossing and beautiful to behold. S stands for sarcophagus. Because that's what you wish to be buried in.

Starting point is 00:23:56 S stands for silo, which you would like your sarcophagus to be placed inside of. And A stands for amoeba. Oh, which to my understanding, means death amongst many moons. Definitely, definitely does. Definitely does. And you could sing your ebullient intonations out as an elegy for those many moons. moons that have perished. I understood all those words

Starting point is 00:24:28 meant except for the word perished and you lost me there. Melissa, I hope you're having a good April and please, please for the love of God don't hold the black mirror up to yourself today. Well, I tied it and bye.

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The Reel Rejects - BLACK MIRROR Season 7 Hotel Reverie - Episode 3 Breakdown & Review

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