The Reel Rejects - BLACK PHONE 2 (2025) IS A CHILLING SINISTER SEQUEL!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

THE GRABBER RETURNS!! Black Phone 2 Full Movie Reaction Watch Along:   / thereelrejects   The Black Phone (2021) Movie Reaction:    • THE BLACK PHONE MOVIE REACTION!! First Tim...   The Black Phone 2 Movie Reaction, Breakdown, Commentary, Analysis & Spoiler Review! Join us as we dive into the chilling sequel directed by Scott Derrickson (who also helmed Doctor Strange and Sinister) in which the masked killer known as the “Grabber” returns from beyond the grave. Ten-plus years after his defeat by Mason Thames (Finney Blake — also in How to Train Your Dragon (2025) and Regretting You (2025)) the evil starts haunting both Finney and his sister Madeleine McGraw (Gwen) at a remote winter camp, Alpine Lake, where their mother once worked—and things get deeply supernatural. Meanwhile, the Grabber is still played by Ethan Hawke (The Grabber — also in Training Day, Before Midnight, and The Black Phone (2021)) who now haunts the phone lines and dreams of his victims. We unpack major moments: Gwen’s vision sequences, Finney’s PTSD-driven recklessness, the snowbound camp setting, the ringing black phone returning, the origin back story of the Blake family’s trauma, and the visceral climax where the Grabber gains powers of the undead and the siblings must fight back. We analyze how Derrickson flips a summer-camp slasher into a winter nightmare, how the film leans into supernatural horror (think Freddy Krueger vibes) and how the sequel expands the mythos of the first film. If you’re searching “Black Phone 2 explained”, “Black Phone 2 review”, “Grabber origin Black Phone sequel”, “Mason Thames Black Phone 2 reaction”, this is your full breakdown. Buckle up—the phone is ringing and the nightmare’s only begun. Follow Roxy Striar YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TheWhirlGirls Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/roxystriar/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/roxystriar Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Roxy, you ready to do this? Absolutely. Let's rock and roll, peeps. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we just watched the black phone two, or no, the, they dropped the, the Facebook. They dropped the, it's just black phone too. We got to make that clear. I don't want anyone coming at me, being like, Greg, why'd you say the? Anyway, prepper, I'm assuming you did a good job editing this,

considering it's up on YouTube, it's universal, pretty hard our movie. It's kind of a bitch to put together. So I'm thinking you way in advance, Greg from the future. Thank you for now. Now we got some questions from a Royal Reject, so of course we want to get to. But before that, I think it's very important. We give our own personal thoughts on the film first before diving deeper via you guys got in them review.

Roxanne Josephine Stryer The middle letter is right Jesus Stryor Yeah Yeah Roxanne Jesus Stryor That's me I prefer if you call me Jesus

That's a call back That's a call back See what I did there How do you feel? How do you feel? How do you feel? I'm really happy with this sequel Hell yeah I think that I think a horror

sequel this day and age is actually one of the hardest genres to make a good sequel for because if you do your first movie right then you the stakes were super high and usually the bad guy dies like it's very very difficult to not plan for a sequel and have a good sequel so all that to say they put themselves in a little bit of a corner because with black phone I don't think they made black phone being like, we're for sure getting a sequel. Yeah. And then when they have to have, when they want to make a sequel, this was kind of the best way to do that.

While I prefer the real threat of having the grabber actually there as opposed to hell grabber, I think that this was a really interesting follow-up. And I really appreciated focusing on Gwen's character this time, the real veil with the mom and the sibling dynamic, which as a person with an older. brother and as a person with a dead mother this movie and franchise very much so speaks to me and i and i think that they did an excellent job of the dialogue in those moments and also showing the thoughts how'd you feel i feel like it is a thinker of a film in a positive way or in a yeah it was just so different than what i i had no expectation

because I didn't see the trailers intentionally. Right. And I like that I didn't because it is so different yet it is very much a continuation of the first one. Like the movie respects as audience to be like you have to have at least watched a recap before watching this movie because we're not going to really tell you what happened in the last film. And I really like the solid continuation of where we're picking up with the characters and it's still thematically involved. in terms of execution and tone and even messing with the rules it was that was the part where i i didn't ever question any of the rules or anything in the first black foe but then i found myself kind of scratching my head at certain points here as we got into like the last half of the

film and i'm impressed because it is such a deviation in terms of execution but there are times where like the griminess of it is like the ugliness of it I felt more when it was going to when it was going for ugliness you know I definitely know what you mean kind of like you saw the Halloween that zombie Halloween movies kind of like when Halloween 2 makes that leap to be like we're going to be just like super ugly now and that that was sort of when we were seeing like the kids actually getting killed and then whenever we're in Gwen's weird ghost dimension vision that was because like in the first movie that's when you're safe because she's uncovering the case she's with the ghost she's not actually traveling

so you're safe there that's the heroic stuff now they flip that word that's the danger zone now because he died because that's where he lives now because that's where he can get to her yeah and they they change up the rules too where now she's like sleepwalking

and she's actually living in it versus just being an observer within it, you know. Yeah, I'm with you that I found myself questioning at times, especially when we make the decision where she doesn't actually have to be walking in real life to be walking in her dream. Yeah. You know, when we see that she's in bed

and then he has that line where he's like, what do you think happens if I kill you here? Yeah. She says, I wake up. He says, maybe or you die. And I think that was them letting us know. We know these rules are a little iffy. That's because we're in purgatory.

so different things depending on what you believe and depending on what she believes and what dreams she's having is what can really take place yeah yeah I think yeah but you know overall I still think like you said it's really hard to make a good horror movie sequel and this could have just been repetitive in a way that would have been because when I first heard they were making a sequel I'm like what the fuck's the sequel like what he's kidnapped kid gets kidnapped again like what's the what's the movie and how's Ethan Hawkback like all all these questions were springing up in my mind that I was like I don't understand how this makes sense somehow they managed to do a sequel that that made sense

and I kind of bought sometimes when they expand on backstory in a sequel I will sometimes be like that wasn't part of the original backstory was it like the whole thing with the mom I'm like I feel like that they made that up for this movie yet I kind of liked it yeah you know I hear you with that. I thought it definitely worked for this. I have, if we're nitpicking some of our ancillary characters, I felt were unnecessary because I was really expecting us to be bringing people on board so we could kill people off. And the fact that not one of our people died, I think really was us setting up for a Blackphone 3. And the fact that we really don't kill him fully and we send them down into the ice. I do think that this movie was more playing it a little safer.

was a little more afraid than the first black film. Which is weird because it, I kept feeling like it was going, that's my biggest criticism of my subjective experience with it, is I kept feeling like, oh, now it's going to ramp up. Right. Now it's going to get really horrifying. And it reached a point where, oh, I'm not really scared of this guy now. And it was around the time when Gwen does, like, you know, 11 him in the phone booth.

You would, yeah. And then like, oh, she can do that. Then we're fucking fine. And then, like, everything's going to be all right. If it's about the power of her mind knowing it's a dream, then we knew we would be fine. Yeah. And so I'm kind of with you there. I really, I don't always say this, but, like, I really wish we killed some bitches off.

Like, I would have had a sense of. Yeah, a fear because we didn't actually see him take anybody down. No. And even the way the response, after they're all learning and dumping all the exposition with the crucifix behind them, there seemed to be a weird pace to it where I, I thought like this is when we should really be like if I was you guys I'd be fucking just non-stop terrified because this could happen at any moment and it seemed to kind of slow down instead yeah because that's the weird thing about the movie that I thought did so strong is

clearly they know and love their main characters a lot so the writing of them is really well thought out so solid like with with finney uh i really love i was saying it during the reaction how he went from this kid in the first movie where it ends on a positive note like he goes to school people are like yeah that's fucking the guy who killed the grabber he's kind of cool and then to start off on this note where he's now being the aggressive bullier sort of but he's uh traumatized and escaping and become sort of forming into what his dad was sort of and matt and man McGraw what's her name again in this movie? Gwen yeah Gwen in the last movie she never really got the recognition she deserved you know the cops were never like that girl really does she thinks

like they never really gave her the credit so it makes sense that she was still kind of being this own isolated thing and for a story about feeling isolated then to do it in the most isolated type of location there's a lot of really cool themes to it right and so character wise and then like my favorite scene in the movie is just when the mom I mean the dad and the brother and sister they're just in this triangle

that was the best having this really long dramatic confrontation scene and they let it breathe they really did you know what I'm going from my favorite scene and your favorite scene which I love to something that didn't pay off the barb line

when what's her name is like when Mustangs like don't pretend like you didn't see some weird things go down here and you think that we're going to hear from Barb and Homeboy who never maybe got a name kind of what that was about and I kept wondering where that was going to come into play

and I wonder if that's a Black Phone 3 play but it's like so were you guys campers were you counselors what did you see what went down why did you guys decide to stick around here why are you like this now I just think that though something must have been caught on the left on the cutting room floor because they were useless characters and then at the end of the day

they didn't even save the day like they finally we full circle that they do show up but they were useless yeah and so i'm curious what the point of other than for comedic relief and to show our character stand up for herself Gwen why was barb and hubby there they're just employees but They didn't really serve something bigger. I felt like there was things they set up that we toyed with of like supernatural elements, religious elements, that, like, for some reason, I didn't feel like we fully met its potential of what we could explore. And like, especially with her, who's such a zealot, you know, at this camp. Right. I thought maybe they would lean into that or some fucking shit.

Right. Some kind of, she believes in the devil. But then, you know, she. You never know what you don't know And be more open-minded And say any kind of reconciliation With how she treated Gwen For all of this stuff like

And honestly I liked the character of Mustang But that wasn't fully realized either When we At the end we get a throwaway line About her being cute And the dad asking if But I just think our new We added new characters

And only one of them mattered And it was the guy that you love Damien Bashir What was his name? But then the thing that threw me off, though, was when in the next scene with the snowman, and he's like, Mustang, and he doesn't seem

that scared. I'm like, however you guys not terrified, right? It just, it was throwing me off in the second half of the movie. I completely agree, but at least he got a full arc where he had a purpose and his purpose was to find these boys, and he gets to make that phone call in the end. And so I felt like his character had purpose and

it was useful for plot development, and I like him as a performer. Yeah. The other three, I'm like, what actually were you doing here? Because you didn't move the plot. and the performers did a great job. It's nothing to do with the actors. The actors did great. I just think there was another draft here

or it's a play for a sequel because otherwise why are we bringing people on not to kill them off and not to develop? Yeah, I feel like there was probably, there was a lot of, there was a lot that didn't fully coales. Like that's just the, like the experience in and of itself is a good experience. Absolutely.

I think the immediate experience has a cool dread to it. the all the nightmarish scenes and things that totally are like nightmare on elm street the setting cool the setting's cool the acting is just phenomenal the music is phenomenal in this as well um not just the soundtrack but the score yeah yeah it was it seemed like it's a weird thing to say it seemed like it was more interested in like our main character's character development which is it exceeds in uh then but then it doesn't fully complement the some of the horror aspects, I think. So, yeah, it's good.

But I feel like we're going to dive a little bit more into it with some of these questions that I did purview a little bit. So let's kick it off then. Do you want to read the first one? Yeah, thank you to our patrons who submitted these questions. We really appreciate you guys. This is coming from Residence Z. I haven't seen the movie yet,

but I can't wait to see it with both Roxy and Redacted. That's me. Yeah. Thank you, Redacted for being here. Of course. I do have a question. though, I do know the movie is a bit of a change from the first movie and leans more towards the supernatural. How do you feel about that change and are you hesitant when a movie changes

the tone, not sure if that's the right word, that made the previous movie so well liked? Example, Evil Dead versus Evil Dead 2 being more comedy. How do you feel, Greg? I think it's a brilliant choice. That was one of the choices I loved about it is the the supernatural stuff is really secondary like the in the first movie. The first movie is a classic story of this guy kidnapping children and this kid is kidnapped and now it's a hostage situation and then

you know those ghosts are communicating through this phone and my sister has premonitions so or not premonitions but can communicate in some weird way and then this one completely flips that where that is so much at the forefront

and they're leading with that this time you know like even with Finney going around and he keeps getting the call from the kids and he's like I'm not I'm busy right now I can't answer this call and and then it's mainly Gwen's POV that we're seeing this in and her whole thing is coming to terms with accepting that this thing is not a curse it's a gift so I think it was a great choice to do that does the movie fully you know exceed in in that realm I don't feel like it does but it's got enough sequences that I thought were chilling and emotional

gripping enough to warrant like a like if i put on black phone one i will put on black phone two probably the next day or something to to finish the story i will continue i wouldn't say that with a lot of movies i'm going to get around to the sequel on my rewatch but if i put on black phone one i'm going to want to complete it with black phone two i think that's a testament to black phone one as well though you just want to stay in that world and keep watching uh i residents i think that there you have one of three choices when you're making this secret you're making this secret equal. Number one, you decide to have a copycat killer and it's not Ethan Hawk and you have another situation where there's a hostage. Number two, you retcon and Ethan Hawk doesn't die

or somehow he wasn't actually dead. Or number three, he did die. And if you're going to go with he did die, supernatural is the only way that you go with this. And I think that one and two would have been such a disservice to this franchise so that you have to go with three. And if you have to go with three, then you need to lead it into the supernatural. So I think it was very smart to do that. Even though this movie isn't as strong as the first one because of that, it's the strongest that a sequel could be to make that choice. Oh, absolutely.

Good answers, Roxy. Jaden Roads. Jadden Rhodes, I watched this in theaters a few weeks back. The thing that stuck me the most besides how amazing Ethan Hawke is, is the amazing actor from the sister. She blew me away, but I'm curious. do you all have a favorite performance in the movie and do you like it better than the first

because I think this movie clears the first by mile glad you feel that way I think the first is a better movie favorite performance I mean it's definitely Madeline it's her movie that would be my favorite performance she was amazing in this

but I also think that Mason did such a phenomenal job especially at that triangle scene I'm genuinely telling you it is like and anybody who has ever been outside knows this when you are cold like that your body is shut down

and they are breathing cold air I don't know what the actual temperatures were where they shot but it looked like it was they were genuinely freezing it is so hard to pull at that performance and when he is saying I don't want to be angry anymore I don't want to be afraid anymore

I thought that that that performance her performance is amazing throughout that scene stole the movie for me and he stole the scene it was so good yeah he's great in it you know like watching re-watching stranger things reminding me about like oh yeah when some of these kids grew up i didn't like some of their acting as much like i'm not gonna say who and these two kids got better with age yeah and they were great to start and like we're watching black phone one i forgot how amazing mason is in that movie he's incredible and he carries that movie and everyone

talks about Ethan hawk because it's Ethan hawk but that is really Mason's movie. And to do this sequel where the kids all grown up and everything, and a lot times they don't remain good. You know, it happens a lot. We've seen it. And like, they only know how to play at that certain age. And this guy's had to grow up in real life. And they lean into that with his character. And I think he does an excellent job. But yeah, Matt, and it's cool that he was willing to play supporting in coming back, even though I think he's still top bill. He's willing to play supporting here. And I feel like the way he, Vanilla McGrath carried

this one. She did. She had to earn that if you're going to be the new lead. And she really does carry and hold the strength. And I like the flippant dynamics between them. She isn't as famous as he is. And that's kind of weird because she is as good as he is. I hope her name gets out there

like crazy. I hope this movie does something for her the way how Black Phone did. Did for him. And Ethan Hawke, I don't feel like he has anywhere near as much screen time in this one. I feel like he was having a lot of fun yes in this one he seemed like he was having a bit more fun is it seemed like he shows up to just you know i don't know he's playing an entity this time he's not really playing a human care like the first movie you feel the psychology of this you know serial killer

kidnapper and versus here he's he's just playing demonic presence you know like he's got the revenge in him but he definitely doesn't feel as much of like it's where they name him in this movie he's bill yet i feel like you know bill better in the first man and this one you just know totally the graber yeah i agree with that i wonder if the third one will kind of focus more on bill and like what what that transition is and kind of why he started doing that yeah he's still good in the movie oh yeah he's really good i thought it was very cool in coy's interview with uh the our two leads here when they were talking about Ethan on set and just saying like the kindest things about how he treats everybody also.

I just, you know, you don't really hear bad things about Ethan Hawke. And I think that it's awesome that you mentioned Mason's willing to take a backseat to Madeline. Ethan Hawke is willing to take a backseat to both of them and be in a mask for 99% of the movie. Yeah. And he is by far, he is an A-less celebrity famous. So, yeah, I think that's so cool.

End is one of his most famous characters now. Yeah. Roxy. Beast Game contestant number five. Who do you think one through four were? How do you guys feel about the second film? I love the dramatic scenes, but I don't think much of the characters were flushed out before, were flushed out enough for me to care about them,

even when it came to the brother, who was played by the same actor in the first film, and it seems like they only killed the ones that wouldn't have impact. I guess they did die. who we didn't see them no we saw them walk at the end barb we did oh okay well there you go I thought we did we saw four people walk at the end I don't remember I don't care enough to know

if we saw them I mean we saw them struggling on the ground but that we didn't get like death scenes okay anyway but why is the grabber only trying to kill people later on in the film if he can touch them in the real world and how is it possible for Finney to touch him when he's not physically there Greg

well this is when ghost this is what I was kind of talking about I was watching it was that's why I was saying I'd be utterly terrified if I was then because it wasn't like some ritual or you know like

oh at this certain time of the moon the grabber comes out like he just came out at random and he could come out at random at any time and it seemed weird that they weren't like hyper aware of that when they walk in and she's being like flung around this room and she's about to be

torched by fire and it did strike me as odd of like, why is he like waiting for two to see like what there's there's so much waiting that he's doing and part of the toying around didn't feel

like naturally weaved in and that's why I kept feeling like it's a ramping up to something that it never quite ramped that didn't quite fully exceed and then yeah at the very end it just started feeling like this is super easy like there's this whole thing of

in the first movie where Finney has to like overcome so much in order to go against the gravity he's got to be methodical and take him down and learn to fight and all this shit and here it just seemed like why does it seem easier to take him out now that he's a like a demonic ghost

it's seem like this should be impossible but they made it seem so much easier this time in that one scene where she's lying down and then he cuts her on the arm and that's when she starts bleeding and we know that it actually affects how she is in the real world,

even if she's not moving. You know what I'm talking about? If he was there and they can touch him, how come when they, like, reached out to her, he wasn't there. So, yeah, there's a lot of moments where I'm like, I don't feel like it was fully dialed in about how ghost rules worked.

But I think that that's kind of the case with a lot of, like, sometimes I feel that way about Freddie. Sure. Where it's like, hmm, how is this work? And I think a lot of it is about people's minds and what you believe. And I think that maybe he didn't try to kill people earlier because she hadn't found him yet. So he had to like show himself to her first. I wish there was just a moment made out of it when Finney actually does fight back.

It kind of just seemed like he fought back and he did it. And he figured out where like the body's located and stuff. I agree. So when he's like up in his end and whispering him, part of what it finds like I'm sure you can take a good guess but yeah it's like little things like that which might seem minute but you saw him like feel up the body till he grabbed the head but yes I agree I agree and it would have been cool if that there was a realization of like oh because I've seen you before I can see I can I know what you're like I know where you are something well in the first movie they all you really only have to focus on Mason Tame's arc and in this one they're introducing new rules and they're trying to give arcs to multiple characters this time including the dad including the dad and that and part of me also do did feel like because the dad was just a horrible monster to them in the first movie i know and like now we're supposed to forgive him

yeah and i i feel like there there should have been some type of tension of like you think just because you're sober now we can forgive you like i think there was a line that kind of implied that but I didn't really feel that tension, you know, so certain things like that. So I feel like they might have been spread a little too much with how much they wanted to accomplish for everything to be felt 100%. But yeah, I do, I did find myself getting a little pulled out because I love the first scene when the grabber does take her and he's swinging her around. Because I was like, holy shit. Like this is an impossible mission. Yeah.

And then somehow it started to, because he's gay, he can like take her to memories and shit like that. he's got all these crazy gifts it should have been uh i don't feel like it should have been a we just pull bodies up and we we punch you now you're down that didn't feel fully earned at the end it should be like a weird kind of thing they got a they should be a fire to fight ice or something yeah some complication you know because yeah then going back to the rules like i didn't even think about it until you said it of when she first gets dunked in the water water rushes over her right and the But then in the end, she's, like, swimming underneath and grabbing bodies. Why isn't she, like, drowning in the physical sense?

So when the movie's setting up rules, I think it's okay to question the rules when the movie itself is presenting these things, you know? But anyway, getting hung up and trying to explain it makes it seem like I don't like the movie. I know. That's sometimes a problem with movies that have ghost rules or this kind of thing is you're not supposed to think about it too hard or things. or things crumble And sometimes I'm like, you know, I think some movies do flesh it out When the first movie doesn't present any questions like that

I feel like that Why is the second movie now doing that? But anyway. I agree. Maghabilita Catharia, just watched this weekend and many was this film an amazing sequel. It really does a great job dealing with trauma from multiple viewpoints.

Was there a character you felt the most connected to based on how they dealt with their trauma? I actually felt connected. to Gwyn and her need to find someone who she could simply talk to. I was really mad at her about that. What? When she told Homeboy her brother's secret.

You know? And she's like, I have to talk to somebody. And it's like, this is why therapy is so important. You can tell you, my brother, my sister, and I all know the rules. Anything they tell me I can say to my therapist. Right. You can't keep me from telling my therapist.

I won't tell anybody else in our life. I'm not not telling my therapist. I need to And so, yeah, I just I felt like she was allowed to tell her truth But not his that he was still taking the phone calls And whatnot Anyway, though, I do think that

That's what this movie did the strongest I felt connected, very connected With the Gwen mom stuff, what it would be like To be able to talk to your mother To experience what she did And then the end phone call, I thought that was so beautiful I felt really connected And to Finn and Gwen

and Finn trying to let go of that anger. So I think that, you know, different moments for different people when it had to do with the real life and familial dynamics. Mm-hmm. Who are you? I mean, they're all pretty relatable.

I would guess I would say Finn in this one is someone who's dealt with so much anger and underneath that anger is really hurt and fear. That's the one I would connect with the most. my answer's way shorter I'm just going to keep it really brief yeah keep it at that gets us out of here

on an earlier time it's fucking late as hell so yeah sorry I'll stop talking so much yeah stop being in depth and giving our patrons answers they deserve to hear all right let's just take two more

than call it today um yeah these are fun ones read it from Hunter Hunter Hunter Preston with the last release of Nightmare on Elm Street

being over a decade ago Blackphone 2 fills the void that franchise has left you like to see the grabber return into the new dream demon if they decide to continue the franchise this was something that you referenced several times throughout um and i had had just seen all the nightmare movies so obviously it was fresh in my mind as well do you want this greg they would have to add up the the threat of the character because even though freddie gets defeated it doesn't actually no he doesn't he sometimes gets defeated um i think you would have to do

something you would probably venture off into a very different realm because what this movie has is grounded characters and fucking you know facing trauma and real emotional shit and psychology to to contend with and then the like the the situations with the graber are like a plot thing to force main characters to face this psychological problems and i i think if you did go full out like that with him you would get a very different kind of film I don't really want a black phone three honestly I don't I don't feel like we should do it I don't think we need to

I kind of feel like we desperately meet it after this why because I think it might make this movie stronger because why did we introduce Mustang this is why because of Mustang and Barb not just that why didn't we deal with whatever Barb had seen previously back in the day why are these characters still living what what does happen now that he's down in the ice just the same that he was before like

what's to keep i know he lost his power because those three kids were found but what about all the other kids um like what was his life between doing this and up until we found him and i think there's more to reveal with the sibling dynamic um i i kind of want to dive deeper into the father and like is he really redeemable after what he did and what does that look like and what does the relationship look like and yeah I just think there's a lot more questions that I that this didn't answer and I'm cool with it not answering if it answers more things than the third one I don't really know if that would I guess I just can't see like a compelling enough plot that would do that and would it be the grabber back for revenge

Once more And how many times can you do that Unless the grabber wins If the grappler wins That would be pretty cool Have you not seen every single franchise? I know, but we don't need to go down the path I feel like

Either we should have stopped at one Or we should go down the path Either I don't feel like I don't feel like you can have This family back if you bring it back Really? It was like you want the family back

to get that and then you know some have questions about the grabber in between which is like a saw movie at that point but I think you would have to have only one or the other you would have to have family in this world but then people want grabber or then you do a different one about the grabber but not these and then in 15 years you could bring the family back yeah when they're like Laurie strode style yeah yeah yeah Madeline's all old and shit that would be cool cool Madeline old 30s like an old ass act right there. Dead to Hollywood. Last one for the day. Nah, let me preview. Do the first one. If you're holding that ominous black phone and the black phone too

and could call one person from your past to help you face your nightmare who you call and why. What does a person from your past mean? I think you can mean anything. You don't talk to them anymore.

They're dead. You can call your mom. Yeah, but I would do that. I don't know what you would call her for I don't think that you would help me, but, you know, if I get a phone that I can call anybody with, that's who I'm calling. Not for help, but just to hear. Yeah, I don't, I mean, like, what's my nightmare? My anxiety, my heart, like, my visit from the cardiologist.

Yeah. Did you have that next one? Yeah, I went to the cardiologist. So if I called my dad and be like, what did you do? The last time you were waiting. you do wrong because I need to make sure I don't do the same thing you did. I don't know who I would call.

I'd call David Henry from eighth grade. Well, I feel like that's hysterical. Check out the interviews. I feel like the truth for your answer is you'd call Olivia because she would figure it the fuck out. She's not from my past though. What do you mean? Yes, she is.

What do you mean? Somebody in your present can still. be she's part of your past you're really stretching the rule here you know what he means i don't actually no you don't know based off the way you're answering that your past meeting like someone who you don't talk to anymore someone you don't know anymore that's why they're in your past well they a lot of people my past are in my present of course once you leave this room here from my past so would you call me or no i wouldn't i wouldn't think you apply to this question

All right. So only dead people are people that you exed. Yeah. I call my ex-girlfriends. You wouldn't? No, I wouldn't. I don't want to talk to them. They're much better people than me.

So that. I'd call Roxy's exes. Not from your past. Give me the deets. You've taken this as a weird place. I thought you were calling me to face a nightmare. Nope. Just want some deets.

What happened? What's the hot guys? What went down? Why do you sound like Yogi Barrow when you do it? Don't you what did happen? That's our bro's talk, right? Hey, bro. What's up, man?

You lift whites. Tell me what happened with New York's government. I'm stuck downstairs in the basement. All right. I think that answers the question for you, guys. would you think a black phone too if these comments are anything that means everyone loves it

and thinks it's better than the first one wait what we literally got beast games how is he's one out of several I love this movie and prefer it just think you said everyone

and beast games a person oh god I forgot how fucking pedantic you are literally I'm literally literal Well, all right, guys. Well, what would you rate black foam, too? Do you want another one?

Do you want the grabber to keep grabbing people? Leave your thoughts down below. Roxy, glad you did this with me. Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, hell yeah. And we'll see you guys soon. Peace of Rejectation.