The Reel Rejects - COY'S COMIC CORNER: 10 Most Accurate Comic Book Movies RANKED!

Episode Date: October 1, 2022

With Deadpool 3 Announced, Coy gives us a Ranking of THE TOP 10 Best Accurate Comic Book Movie Adaptations of All Time! Films featuring Deadpool Batman, Spider-Man, Deadpool, Hellboy, as well as char...acters from Allan Moore, Frank Miller, and MORE! Even a Zack Snyder joint or two!! Coy Jandreau brings us another episode of Coy's Comic Corner!! #Marvel #MCU #DCEU #DarkHorseComics #ImageComics #ZackSnyder #SuperheroMovies #ComicBookMovies Become A Super Sexy Reject For Full-Length T.V. & Movie Reactions! https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Support The Channel By Checking Out Our High-Quality Merch: http://shopzeroedition.com/collections/reel-rejects-merch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Citizens of Reject Nation, I am here to bring you a video. I don't think I've seen before. I want to break down the most accurate comic book movies, which implies both reading the comics and watching the movie. Now, some of these haven't seen it a while, but from memory, these are, I think, the 10 most accurate comic book movies. Please do like, subscribe. Hit that bell if you want to see more videos like this.
Starting point is 00:00:53 I'm trying to convince Greg. Let me do a Best of Comic Book movies video. And we're between 10, 25, and 100. I'm trying to let him do a hundred. It's not going to let me do 100, but we're trying to convince him to go up to 50. So check that video out, leave a comment telling Greg you want to see a top 50 comic book movie video. And pump me down on TikTok where I do 30 second, 15 second, one minute, three minute, short form videos, breaking news and breaking down all sorts of comic goodness.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Let's get into the most accurate comic book films. Number 10, a very accurate representation of the character and a very accurate representation of the character and a very accurate representation of the stories around the storyline, but not a direct adaptation of one comic through line, making this kind of a tricky thing. But I've got Batman Begins. Batman Begins is a very good adaptation of year one. It's a very good adaptation of young Bruce Wayne,
Starting point is 00:01:41 which has been told in so many different storylines. And it's a very accurate Bruce Wayne. But in the comic books, there isn't a Razal Ghoul switch. There's more du card. There's more certain things. But to me, this established Gotham. This established the loss of his family. This established all that year one.
Starting point is 00:01:57 established the tone the closest to most of the Batman mythology that I'd ever seen, and I consider this one of the most accurate comic adaptations because it gets who Bruce and Batman are very early and very quickly. This is 300. Number nine is 300. That movie changed a lot of things and doesn't get enough credit. Zach Snyder made a movie that was almost a storyboard use of the comic book. Like that is a frame-for-frame recreation. He really played with the palette. He played with the edit. He played with the sound design. He did a lot of things to put you in the world of 300. Frank Miller, who wrote and illustrated 300 was also very hands-on. They collaborated and it shows. Frank Miller and Zach Snyder, I think, are the duo that goes like, hey, we're going to do this
Starting point is 00:02:42 thing that's going to be adapting, but also translating, but it's going to work. And I don't think a lot of other duos have really done that. And I will say, I think Zach Snyder, when you want something translated by way of putting it into another medium, he's the guy, because he's three of these on this list. Next up at number eight, we have dread. The newest iteration of dread. Yes, the Stallone one's a fun time, but the newest dread is the comic book. Carl Urban looks like he was ripped right out of that page. I loved the end of Olivia Thorlby as like the new recruit. I love that it felt like we were living in. The comic sometimes feels like a video game, and the movie felt more like a video game adaptation than a lot of video game adaptations, because that's what the
Starting point is 00:03:18 comic felt like a lot of the time. I love the use of slow-mo. I love the editing that made it feel like you were going into a comic book frame. I love the pacing that made it feel like certain action set pieces were pages flipping. This all very, very clearly becomes the comic book flavor you want out of something that's so pulp noirie like Dread and Carl Urban absolutely nailed it. Love this movie. My number is 2004's Hellboy. Now, this movie kind of proved that this is the way to do it when 2019's Hellboy was a direct translation.
Starting point is 00:03:50 What's important in making comic book movies is making sure it's a comic book, movie, which needs to be both an adaptation and a translation, which is why, for example, Civil War is not much like the comic book, but it works in the medium of film. Hellboy, the original, showed what you need to gather the tone, to get the world, to make the BPRD work, to get all the underground paranoia,
Starting point is 00:04:13 the world of monsters, the Guillermo del Toro of it all, versus trying to make a frame-by-frame comparison, which is what they did in the 2019 Hellboy. Ironically, what works for Zach Snyder and Frank Miller teaming up, or Zach Snyder working off, you know, Alan Moore's work, is he makes the medium of film through the comic book lens, whereas I feel like when you're trying to translate too directly, it's trying to film a frame of comic book,
Starting point is 00:04:35 and there's a big difference. Hellboy, the original, is a pitch-perfect example of how you capture a world, how you grow out a world, and you make it fit in your medium using your skill set, if you cast correctly, and you have the most incredible team of special effects artists assembled. Love O-For's Hellboy.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Number six, remember, remember the 5th of November. I think V for Vendetta, the graphic novel, is one of the most important. And I think the movie is also one of the movies that establish that comic book movies aren't just for kids. And I think that's a really important distinction. The adult maturity, intellectualism, and progress that V for Vendetta made cannot be shortchanged. Like, the Wachowski's produced this film, and they used a lot of their incredible sensibilities to make this a giant spectacle, and the trailers very much leaned in to the Hugo weaving of it all, and the incredible knife play, and Natalie Portman.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But if you look at the actual movie, it's talking about very real, very adult things. It's talking about overthrowing a government. It's talking about fascism. It's talk about iting a dictator state. So it's able to do what comic books do well, which is be action-packed, have interesting characters, and yes, bros on the internet, be political. Comic books are inherently political. V for Vendetta does an incredible job, being political, being intelligent.
Starting point is 00:05:49 showing its perspective, but also being action-packed enough, and in this case, following the comic enough, that is one of the most direct, incredible adaptations, one of the most accurate adaptations of any book to screen. Number five, we are back to the world of Zach Snyder, and this one is tricky, and this one is probably going to get me some comic book kickback because this one is very accurate for 95% of the time.
Starting point is 00:06:12 That last 5% is a huge change, and that is Watchman. Watchman change the ending of the most important graph. novel of all time, but it did to make it work for the medium, and I would not change that. I love that the show that just came out on HBO Max, that's long form, went back to the original ending and was able to, because it's adapting the book. It's not adapting this movie. It's adapting where the book left off. But since it had long form, it was able to explain the squids. It was able to live in that world. What I love about what Zach Snyder did with Watchman is, I felt like I was living the comic book, and then I got to be surprised. But it still had the emotional
Starting point is 00:06:46 resonance. It still had the impact. It still had the ending. It still did. what the book did, but it adapted it. It evolved it for the medium. I'm not saying evolved as in better. I'm saying it, it turned it into the medium of filmmaking. Now, it was perfectly cast, the special effects still hold up, and it looks incredible. They used the comic books basically as a framework. It grabbed frames and somehow translated them to scream, and it did a really cool thing with sound design and music, like Smashing Pumpkin song. To this day, makes me think of Watchmen, because it was so that world, and it was so paranoid, and it was so about what happens when the world goes wrong.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And it makes me feel like who watches the watchman. It makes me feel like that sense of dread. And I think this movie is incredible. And I think the ending change works, which is why it makes my most accurate adaptations list because it is accurate to the comics in how it changed. Number four is a weird tie
Starting point is 00:07:38 because I don't let it count. We got two movies. One of them is getting this love because it is an incredible adaptation of the energy of the comic and also uses the frame. So that is one way I see adaptation work And that is Scott Pilgrim versus the world.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Scott Pilgrim versus the world feels exactly like the comic. The other one tied at number four is a very different movie altogether, but just as colorful. And that is Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse. The reason I'm picking Spider-Man to the Spider-Verse is it adapts the characters so incredibly well while not following the comic book storyline. It is accurate to Peter Parker is. It is accurate who Spider-Guin is. It is accurate to Miles Morales is. It brings us Miles Morales, and it does so while explaining quantum theory and giving us 10 other Spider-Men
Starting point is 00:08:18 while never sacrificing who Miles is, while giving us a Miles origin story. So what's interesting to be about into the Spider-Verse is it's incredibly accurate to Miles, but it's not the Spider-Vverse story in the comics. There's no Morlin, there's no spider totems, all that might come into play in across the Spider-verse, but I doubt it.
Starting point is 00:08:35 All of those things are so accurate to the comic books, and it is the most accurate for me of the animated films because it literally feels like you're turning the page of a comic book. The animation style, all of those elements, make these both some of the most accurate, translations of a comic book I've ever seen and they're both very special for changing the game. The cacophony
Starting point is 00:08:54 of Edgar Wright Scott Pilgrim cannot be like denied, like what it did to change editing and all those things and the visual aesthetic and editing and stylistic choices of across the spider into the spider verse are going to resonate through animation for the rest of time and it feels just like a comic. So these two, tied to
Starting point is 00:09:10 number four. I'm making the list. I can make my own. When this movie came out, it was everywhere and does not get the love it used to and it should and I think that's because of the sequel. Kickass one is the comic book with Big Daddy Nick Cage you change what the comic book was because now you hear Nick Cage when you read it because they
Starting point is 00:09:26 were so accurate to what that book was it played with the beats it played with the friendship it found sets that looked just like John Ameter Jr. drawings it went frame by frame but what it did was it let the edit of the movie not make it feel like it was too
Starting point is 00:09:42 beholden to the comic book so it's accurate to the comic book and it uses the elements it uses the pacing but it's not trapped in any sort of way. This is John Emeter Jr. is one of my favorite artists of all time. This is the closest we will ever see to the very iconic Johnormeter Jr. splash pages, his framing, his choices. I think the casting is
Starting point is 00:10:00 second to none. When you look back at Chloe Grace Moretz as hit girl, that was all anyone was talking about that entire summer. When you look at what we first got the introduction of Adrian Taylor Johnson as kick-ass. And that's not to mention, again, the Batman Adam West take that Nicholas Cage did as Big Daddy. I think it elevated the comic book. The comic was our exceptional the movie made it even better because of how accurate it was to the comic book that when you read the comic back it changes your whole experience and i think this movie uh doesn't get enough love
Starting point is 00:10:27 in the modern conversation all right this one is very interesting in assessing it because this one does not follow any direct comic book storyline but it changed the comic books because of how accurate it was to the character i don't know that there's ever or at least not since iron man downy junior had there been a comic book character change in the comic books because of the actor and that Ryan Reynolds's Deadpool. For years, they kept writing Ryan Reynolds into Deadpool jokes because they were trying to get this movie made. There's a joke in one of the early Deadpool comics saying that the Wade Wilson looks like Ryan Reynolds crossed with a radioactive Sharpay. For years, they were trying to get this going. But then after this movie, the character is written, especially the Jerry Duggan stuff, the Brian Passain stuff. It sounds like the Ryan Reynolds sensibility because this is accurate to the comics because it distilled so much Deadpool down into one perfect thing.
Starting point is 00:11:16 This took 30 years of Deadpool comics, and it found his beating heart. Deadpool is interesting because he's one of the only heroes that wears a mask, not to protect his identity, but he's protecting your stomach from his horrendous face. His dignity, his shame, and his use of comedy as a defense mechanism. We're all found in this one beautiful story where it's a story about love. It's a story about cancer. It's a story about loss. But it's a goddamn superhero story with Quentin Tarantino action set pieces and lots and lots of dick jokes.
Starting point is 00:11:45 This is a movie that means you can watch a pegging sequence on Disney Plus right now that is more accurate that some of the comic books were about the very same character and it changed the comic books going forward. Deadpool, I think, is not just one of the most accurate comic book adaptations, but it's one of the most important. And I think when you look at R-rated superhero movies that came out after Deadpool, it owes them a lot of thanks, and I'm really excited and hopeful we'll get to see something like that with Deadpool and the MCU.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I think they will be as accurate as this first one because of how much Kevin Feigy loves the comics and because of Ryan Reynolds' love for this character, but I'm really curious to see what that looks like in a new world in this shared NCU. So keep it accurate, keep it awesome. Deadpool's my number two. And my number one is actually probably going to be a little shorter than some of my rest because it just does all of the things I've described. And it mixes in really cool medium choices in its flourish of black and white with color. And that is Sin City. It uses the beautiful noir style of filmmaking that the comic books resonate with and adds the color, much like the comics do, but it does it in a way that it feels like when you're reading a comic book and you're
Starting point is 00:12:47 letting your imagination go, how you're flipping between panels. This captures that, sometimes in frame rate, sometimes in an edit, sometimes in an acting choice. But this truly feels like reading a comic almost as much as into the Spider-verse does. This is with live-action actors, the closest thing I can describe to people that have never enjoyed comic books. You're in a world that is so fleshed out. Every supporting character matters just as much as the lead. Every lead is exactly who they feel like on the pulpiness of the page. You can smell these frames. And it's all authentically, Frank Miller. It's all exactly what the book feels like. It's ultra violent. It's interesting. It's empathetic. You care. And still, everyone's at an 11. Everyone is larger than
Starting point is 00:13:30 life. Everyone is in the world of Sin City. Just as Sin City changed comic books, Sin City changed movies. And it is impossibly accurate, impossibly important. And when people talk about comic book movies. Sin City deserves some respect on its name. This really helped things get going. If Blade gave us the MCU, I think Sin City gave us a lot of the adult-oriented content that we get now. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:54 put some respect on its name. Sin City's the tits. All right, let me know what you think if you read comics and you think there's an accurate comic book movie I missed. Let me know if you disagree with my worldview on something being accurate by being authentic to the character, but different from the comics, let me know
Starting point is 00:14:10 like, you know, your Deadpools and such. Most of all, let me know what you're enjoying reading. A lot of you have been asking for comic book recommendations for this video. I'm going to say, Deadpool, the good, the bad, and the ugly. If you want some sweet, sweet Ryan Reynolds, Ernesty, with some Deadpool, Dead Presidents, if you want that comedy, the Jerry Duggan type comedy, that Rhett Reese and Paul Warnock do so very well. I would also recommend you read at least Volume 1 of Sin City.
Starting point is 00:14:36 That's my passionate cryout to understand what that world of pulp is. A lot of people read comics, and they think the younger side, but pulp comics, especially adult comics like Frank Miller, have a lot of beauty to them that doesn't get disgust enough. And then finally, for my last recommendation,
Starting point is 00:14:51 let's go with, you know what, fuck it, read V for Vendetta. A lot of people give a lot of love to Watchmen, as they should. I do think it's the most important comic book, maybe ever made, but I don't feel like V for Vendetta gets enough love.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And as we live in a world that these conversations are discussed more often, and as these important elements of politics are bandied about day to day, I think a great, palatable way to discuss Big Brother, Fascism, and treason is V for Vendetta.
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