The Reel Rejects - COY'S COMIC CORNER: All Marvel Disney Plus Shows RANKED! (She-Hulk & Werewolf By Night Included)

Episode Date: October 14, 2022

RANKING All 9 Of The MCU Disney Plus Series from Marvel Phase 4! On this list is She-Hulk Attorney At Law, Werewolf By Night, Loki, Wandavision, Moon Knight, Hawkeye, Falcon & The Winter Soldier, & Ma...rvel's What If. Here's another episode of Coy's Comic Corner! #Marvel #MCU #Disney #DisneyPlus #SheHulk #SheHulkAttorneyAtLaw #Daredevil #Wandavision #MarvelPhase4 Follow Coy Jandreau On Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?lang=en Become A Super Sexy Reject For Full-Length T.V. & Movie Reactions! https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Support The Channel By Checking Out Our High-Quality Merch: http://shopzeroedition.com/collections/reel-rejects-merch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:43 Chipotle, for real. Citizens of the Reject Nation, She-Hulk just had its finale. As in, like, seven minutes ago, we just finished the finale, and you know, your boy likes lists. And with that finale, it has changed where She-Hulk would rank, so let's rank all of the Disney Plus shows. All right. Now, please do leave a like that does help the algorithm right there. There's a button. It's a thumb. That's a positive thing. Everybody likes a good thumbs up. We do that digitally. It helps this channel just grow and exist. Also, please leave your ranking in the comments because I genuinely want to know how you perceive these shows, what order you have. And remember, this is my experience of these shows. My life is inherently different than yours because I've lived a different life than yours. This is how I perceive the art. Isn't one is better than the other. These are my favorites and how I journeyed through these Marvel Disney Plus shows. Please do also follow me on TikTok. We got 15 seconds. We got 30 second. We got
Starting point is 00:01:33 three-minute reviews and videos and news and fancasts, all sorts of stuff you'd see here, but a little bite-sized segment. So hunt me down over there. You guys have been great. Follow me over there. I've really appreciated it. All right, enough preamble. Let's get into it. Coming in at number nine is what if. Now, I did talk about this on the full breakdown of my entire MCU experience, so I'll be brief. But for me, what if didn't feel like it had quite the same amount of weight as other shows or other installments in the MCU i felt like those little micro universes were kind of isolated to themselves and then unfortunately by the time multiverse of madness came out and then zombie wanda and zombie strange weren't those characters it made it feel
Starting point is 00:02:15 even more erroneous and yes comic books are like that and yes there are times where issues don't matter that much but in the greater scheme of the MCU everything has felt really impactful until some things recently and what if was the first time i was like okay I'm enjoying this, but it doesn't feel like must-see TV. So it is my lowest one of the Marvel Disney Plus shows. At number eight, we've got Hawkeye. Now, Hawkeye was one of my most anticipated. That actually might be partly my fault for this being so low,
Starting point is 00:02:42 because my expectations were impossibly high. I'm a huge fan of Jeremy Renner. I am a huge fan of Haley Steinfeld. I love their dynamic together. I love how they both perfectly embody Hawkeye and Hawkeye. Now, unfortunately, that's about where it ends for me. I didn't really love the B-plots. I didn't love the supporting cast as much as I usually do at these shows.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Not that they were bad, but one of these things has to be number eight, so it's just lower because of the supporting cast didn't quite land for me. I did enjoy that it was an adaptation of an incredible Hawkeye run, but I didn't really feel for Move a Bro guys. I didn't really feel for the villainous syndicate. It also didn't make me fully endeared to Echo as much as I wanted to, because I love Echo in the comic books. It did a lot of things right, but it left me feeling hollow,
Starting point is 00:03:26 and then that might have been, you know, a reasonable thing, if not for the way I thought Kingpin came about. The Kingpin landing did really bother me. We still don't know what's going to be canon to the Netflix world or any of those things, but it did feel like we got a fully who-framed Roger Rabbit almost cartoon Kingpin. And Vincent Donofrio is one of the most grounded, powerful, sincere, earnest, interesting takes in all of comic book adaptations. So it was really hard to see him go from the Wilson Fisk. We got a Netflix to this character.
Starting point is 00:03:55 and it did just feel a little disingenuous, so that gives me Hawkeye at number eight. Coming in at number seven is the show we just wrapped She-Hulk. She-Hulk's finale actually put this over Hawkeye. This would have been the number eight spot, but after that finale, I was so impressed. I really love the first two episodes and then loved the last two episodes even more. The first two and the last two are amongst my favorite of anything in the Disney Plus Marvel Pantheon, and especially those last two episodes, I would put up against a lot of the entirety of the MCU. Unfortunately, I did struggle with some of the stuff in the middle.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Unfortunately, I was aware of runtime at times. I'm also not a sitcom guy. So a lot of the sitcom tropes didn't quite sing for me the same way. I did appreciate its humor. I loved its metanus. I thought the writing was really incredible. And I thought the acting was incredible. What's interesting for my brain is that sitcom writing and sitcom acting feel separate. Like, there's a disconnect for me where I can be like, I can acknowledge that's good writing. I can acknowledge that's good acting this isn't my tempo for lack of a better phrase that said i am really impressed at the genius of the not just forethought of what's going to be the effect of this on pulp culture in the trolling in the mess that we deal with in the fandom side of commentary but in the finale
Starting point is 00:05:12 they had literally spelled out everything that they knew was going to be the experience this show is not written live this isn't filmed live before a studio audience this was known by these writers and that's incredible it was able to play with awareness in the same way that she hulk did in the comic books in the john burn run of she elk she'llk she literally is referencing iconic covers on her covers there's parallels between storylines happening at the time of pop culture that you can then go reread and experience pop culture in that moment in time now you can do that with this show this disney plus experience is unique to this time we are here for a moment in time that we got to experience through the beautiful lens of shield so for that that's an a plus that experience is like nothing
Starting point is 00:05:51 I'm ever going to experience again the first time you watch the shield finale that is a before and after life moment which i have to sing the praises of it just didn't work for me in the middle bit and that you know that happens so that makes it number seven love that it exists really appreciate the fact that i had a once in a lifetime moment with it but something has to be number seven number six the falcon and the winter soldier i feel like this is a show that is only going to improve with time in how it's perceived by pop culture i feel like when captain america four comes out people are going to be like god i did love falcon and the winter soldier this show does what a lot of phase four does but does it extremely well and then it deals with grief there's the running joke that after end game everyone
Starting point is 00:06:29 needs to go to therapy hey guys winter soldier goes to therapy in this show i love that it faces grief head on i love that it faces grief in two different directions i love that the mantle of captain america is passed to falcon for a reason and we see why bucky wasn't the guy to take the shield and more importantly we see why sam wilson was the guy to take the shield we also get introduced an incredible new falcon we also get so much great baron zimo baron mordo is dr strange baron zimo is the this this winter soldier situation and i really love daniel brul's take on baron zimo i think the espionage angle is great i love the winter soldier movie style dynamic and i thought they brought that really well into this show my biggest flaw with this show is as much as i love in
Starting point is 00:07:12 comic books when villains and heroes team up against all odds i did find baron zimo just being chummy with our guys so immediately like i don't think either of these guys would trust him even to the level they did obviously there was distrust throughout the episodes there was moments of oh no i don't believe him but it did feel like wait a second baron zemos just rowing around now he literally is the reason for civil war so that did rub me the wrong way a little bit but that's more than made up for with u.s agent that's more than made up for that incredible bloodiest moment to that date in the marvel cinematic universe of the beheading i also give this a little bit of wiggle because this was a covid juggled shuffle thing with plot lines and it dealt with a lot so i'm a big bucky barns fan it's great to see him get to
Starting point is 00:07:50 sing i'm a big sam wilson fan it was great to see him get to sing i think this show is only going to improve people's eyes as time goes on number five moon night moon night is really really interesting in that it almost had the opposite of the she hulk problem they kind of acknowledge the moon night problem in she hulk i don't love that most of these shows are really really powerfully dynamic in their dialogue and their pros and they take their time and they experience things and then there's a fight at the end moon night dropped a decent amount of spots after that finale that did not work for me as well as i wanted it to that said everything else did i love that this felt like event tv i love that week to week i was so intrigued by this world i was so enamored by mark specter's entire
Starting point is 00:08:31 existence sorry jake sorry it's everyone in that world and i wanted to know all of them i wanted to experience everyone as we went through that and the acting i think oscar isac's performance here is some of the best on TV, period, hard stop. I think Ethan Hawke is such an interesting, captivating villain up until the finale, when they're going against each other, just a power of wills and intelligence, that is such a captivating show,
Starting point is 00:08:55 and it's more interesting than giant deities fighting, and that's the power of Marvel, is that the people talking is just as powerful as deities fighting, and it slipped at the end, but the whole journey to get to the end was a master class in style and substance. Some of the shots from Aaron and Justin, the directors of some of the episodes,
Starting point is 00:09:10 were so dynamic and so powerful from the comic iconography. It looked like Greg Smallwood Art Come to Life. And then other episodes directed by Muhammad Diab felt so much like what the beating pulse of the comic is. We got visuals and we got heart. The show was so special. I really got a lot out of it. I'm very excited to see more Moon Night in the MCU. Number four, Miss Marvel herself Kamala Khan.
Starting point is 00:09:33 That show was like six months ago, or three months ago. Time is a flat circle, but the entire time it was airing. I was so infatuated. us getting our modern silver age Spider-Man. This character to me is what I imagine it's like to go through being young now. And that's what it felt like when I was reading Spider-Man growing up. She's fighting for her hometown. She's dealing with family stuff. She's just going up against the odds. She's the ultimate underdog. And this show captured all of that. And much like the comic book, informed me a lot about a culture I don't have that much knowledge of. I don't know a lot
Starting point is 00:10:05 about Muslim culture. This show brought me into that world, brought me into that family. And then in a very special episode brought me back to a giant historic event that I knew very little about. I knew very little about everything that happened in that flashback and then that tied up beautifully into the modern day. And then the finale was incredible. The reason this one's so high is it broke some of that, oh no, they don't know how to do a finale feeling I had had where the ending is like a home alone episode in a school and it plays with powers. It gives you one of the biggest cliffhangers in Marvel history with the sound cue of the X-Men. It reveals her as a mutant in such a clever way and it does all of that while never being inauthentic to the pace the tone and the
Starting point is 00:10:44 feel of the show going forward. Kamala Khan is a character that's all of us. She is literally a fan and the actress Amman Volani is literally all of us. She's one of the biggest fans and that is Miss Marvel. Miss Marvel is in complete idolship and adoration of Captain Marvel. We felt that every step of the way and we felt Amman being us every step of the way and they were still able to tell this incredible story with tons of incredible set pieces and lots of genius. dialogue really loved me some miss marvel and a lot of points go to that finale which i really dug number three just aired last week and since it didn't have theatrical we're calling it a show but it is a special event it is werewolf by night world by night was one of my biggest surprises out of d23
Starting point is 00:11:26 because i was so ready for this as is but as not a giant horror comic guy i was like i'm gonna enjoy it i enjoy a lot of what marvel put that puts out but when i saw that trailer i was bold over by potential i was like they're making a full-on 70s grind house film and then what I got was even better a full on 30s universal monster movie experience this is what I want out of Marvel when they take such bold swings that you're fully in another world this movie didn't end with a giant action set piece it stayed in tone this special event didn't steer away from how it started in that pulpy goodness it didn't rush it didn't do anything that was not authentic to its story and
Starting point is 00:12:10 it debuted Michael Giacchino's directing career, hopefully to go on and do everything, because the world he made was so immediately interesting, the three characters that he was able to capture so quickly with Man Thing, Wherelf by Night, and Elsa Bloodstone, three characters that are not easy to capture even in comic books, that all were absolute powerhouses that I care so much for that I can't wait to see where they go next, and then that color transition at the end. Man Thing is Man Thing. Ted is Ted here, and I loved, loved Gail. Garcia Bernal here as Werewolf by Night. I cannot wait to see more of how he interacts with others and they can do all of this as a period piece or not. They could bring them forward because we don't
Starting point is 00:12:50 know how Werewolves age and we know also Bloodstone's Bloodstone allows for more time. We have so much potential here and it's a thing out of time in its own way. So yes, they can interact or not and I want more of that in the MCU. Comic books don't have to all tie together. Some of them do. I would love to see the Midnight Suns here in this world, this darker world, this gritty world. I loved everything about where else by night check out our reaction on this very channel we do a whole review i could talk about that for 20 minutes it's so special coming in at number two is wandavision this one's tricky because i actually juggled between a world finite and wandavision for two to three because i think wandavision is the best event television we've had yet in the mccu
Starting point is 00:13:28 i think it was the best time in the commentary culture i think we were all guessing and sharing and it felt like an actual water cooler show every single week i literally did in the Instagram lives for an hour the moment after I finished an episode and just shared theories and had people in their commenting. It was a community. That is so special. Community is what I feel like I went in a comic book shop. When I'm standing in the back of a comic book shop, flipping through something, someone comes up and recommends something else, or we start a conversation. That's what comics are to me. It's community. This was Wanda Vision. I loved the ship of Theseus. I loved what it was like to process grief this way. I loved all the mysteries and twists and turns. But then it did land with a lot of that getting thrown away to have a big apocalyptic.
Starting point is 00:14:09 ending and that didn't work as much for me as I wanted it to if it landed like the number one spot would be fighting for number one instead it's fighting between two and three but it did infinitely more right than it did wrong I loved getting spectrum this way I loved using darcy this way I love that Wanda got an incredible arc to get close to being Scarlet Witch which thing got rushed to me but I love that we had time to go from Wanda towards Scarlet Witch I love that we got to process comic books are serialized comic books come out monthly every month I get to visit some of my favorite characters and live with them in those pages.
Starting point is 00:14:41 In Wanda Vision, every week, I got to visit some of my favorite characters and lived with them in those frames. And that was such a unique time in TV. And I'll always remember it fondly. WandaVision is my number two. Coming in at number one. You'd probably guess because it's the only one left.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It is Loki. Loki to me, no notes. No changes would want nothing different. Every scene of dialogue between Mobius and Loki. Every moment shared between Owen Wilson and Tom Hiddleston, every single character supporting cast lead cast day player extra stunt person masterpiece and then you get to have the mysteries you get to play with continuity you get to do time travel you get to incorporate all the weird kirbiness of the marvel comic books you get to do what comic books are
Starting point is 00:15:24 which is seemingly have a boundless budget and boundless imagination you get to play you get to have a sense of play we met variance we met a crocodile loki we had a classic loki in the incredible Richard E. Grant. We had so many moments that are so memorable, so many quotes that made me so introspective, so many things that felt like they were pulled from the comics, but that also felt unique to the medium of TV. So many visuals, so much splendor, so much wonder, so much great sci-fi, so much Mobius art, ironically, because the other characters named Mobius in the show, so much love, even the love story between Loki. Of course, Loki'd love himself. So much right. And then best of all, it stuck the landing. We meet
Starting point is 00:16:06 He Who Remains, and he is every bit what Kang needs to be without being Kang. We meet the idea of a man that knows there are others of him that's lived through time. We meet what's about to be the big threat of phase five. And he's terrifying and intense, but also not the scariest version we're going to get. We get teased just enough to know that Kang is coming without meeting Kang, because that's what you can do with this character. We get a Shakespearean finale for a show about life, about what it means to be a what it means to be faded, what it means to make choices. We get all of that in these incredible
Starting point is 00:16:40 monologues, masterfully delivered by Jonathan Majors. This show, to me, is what you can do when you have perfect writing, perfect directing, perfect acting, and let the audience to experience it with you, week to week, taking its time, setting up what's to come. Not only is it great by itself as a perfect little experience, it's also great as a gateway to what's to come, it's also great as a launching point to introduce characters. That's comic books. Comic books are great in the 22 pages you get them. They're also great when you get them in a trade paperback.
Starting point is 00:17:11 They're also great when you get them in a hardcover experiencing the whole year or six months or whatever size hardcover it is. They're also great when they're mixed into events. That's Loki. It's the thing that glues it all together as well as its own beautiful story and it's all done at an A-plus
Starting point is 00:17:25 and Loki is a masterpiece and I love each and every one of these shows. Again, they just had to be in an order. Something had to be last. something had to be in the middle something had to be first any of these things i had an incredible time watching i got to know what your ranking is i got nine what if eight hawkeye seven she hulk six falcon winter soldiers five moon night four miss marvel three world by night two wanda vision and one loki leave your ranking in the comments below let me know what you thought of
Starting point is 00:17:51 mine be nice as you can like subscribe do youtube things as well hum me down on tic doc you guys have been really great about coy's comic corner we're going to be making more i know there's a little slow for a minute there but we're back let me know in the comments also what you want to see whether it's uh you know fan casting or comic recommendations or any sort of lists and things maybe maybe why not watch another movie want me to watch superman too let me know also comic recommendations here read she hulk's current run it's really special it's really fun it's kind of the opposite of the show in that she cannot rep supers and then the x-men try to court her as far as hawkeye check out the mat fraction david aha run uh which it's based off of which the show is based off of it's really fun it's really
Starting point is 00:18:28 dynamics really accessible that's your hawkeye recommendation let's do one more let's go greg smallwood let's go greg smallwood's moon night run with jeff lemire if those are your recommendations as always enjoy some comics and i appreciate each and every one of you citizens rejignation we'll see you soon

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