The Reel Rejects - COY'S COMIC CORNER: DOCTOR DOOM Will Appear In MANY Marvel Phase 5 & 6 Projects! | Multiverse Saga | MCU Cameos

Episode Date: July 30, 2022

DR DOOM WILL BE THE REAL MCU VILLAIN?! Kang The Conqueror is expected to be the Multiverse central villain but Coy has predictions & theories as to how it's actual Doom. Movies involving Avengers Secr...et Wars, Avengers Kang Dynasty, Fantastic Four, Ant-Man & The Wasp Quantamania, & EVEN MORE! Here's another episode of Coy's Comic Corner! #DoctorDoom #Marvel #MCU #Avengers #AvengersSecretWars #FantasticFour #AvengersKangDynasty #KangTheConqueror #Thunderbolts #MarvelPhase5 #MarvelPhase6 Follow Coy Jandreau On Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?lang=en Support The Channel By Checking Out Our High-Quality Merch: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:54 Carvana. Financing subject to credit approval, additional terms and conditions may apply. Internet and citizens of Reject Nation, welcome back to another exciting episode of Coy's Comic Corner. I am slightly healed. The voice is coming back. I am no longer quite the voice of Doom, but slightly the voice of Doom. This episode is very special because we're going to talk about the entirety of Phase 5 going into 6 and how I think Victor von Doom is going to be implemented in a number of these
Starting point is 00:01:20 properties and in fact the Big Bad, not necessarily Kang, but Dr. Doom pulling a lot of strings. We're going to get to all of that. But before we do, please like leave a comment. Subscribe. Let us know. You love us. I want to read these comments. I've been enjoying them. And speaking of which a lot of you asked about these shirts, the tie-dye shirts I wear, box lunch clad me in this beautiful wear, tell them I sent you. And speaking of amazing comments, I've been enjoying reading. Thank you to everyone who has followed me on TikTok. You guys have been amazing. There's 15 second to three-minute videos over there. A lot like what I do here, but in bite-sized little morseves. If you think 20 minutes is too long, you got 20-second options. Get on over to my TikTok
Starting point is 00:01:58 and thank you to everyone who has. right let's get into it so before we get into doom himself kevin foggy has confirmed that fantastic four is in fact not an origin story and that ties beautifully into how i think they're going to be implement doom because i think honestly doom is our way into the fantastic four and i think that is really interesting we've seen lots and lots of these movies where the heroes bring us the villain we haven't really seen a villain bring us heroes and i think that those origins are going to be tied together really beautifully and we're going to be laying a lot of seeds throughout an entire phase in the beautiful way that we had thanos set up through post-credit scenes
Starting point is 00:02:38 through little easter eggs through tie-ins leading up to getting him an infinity war let's go the other way let's use dr doom to lead us towards the kickoff of phase six with fantastic four now how do i think we'll get there first of all we get the knowledge that there is likely and this is a rumor for now but we'll see a post-credit scene featuring dr doom in wakonda forever that film is out this year that is conclusion of phase four. What better way to conclude a phase than by kicking off your new villain? You have a post-credit scene. You set up through the film. It looks like we're going to have two nations at war. We've got the Wakandans against the Atlanteans. So it looks like we're going to have a lot of really the trailer. Good God. We're going to have a lot of stunning imagery between
Starting point is 00:03:17 these two rival nations. But if you're expanding the world geopolitically, if you're making something as politically savvy as the first Black Panther or further, you're going to have other nations. And what better way to bring in Doom than by having Doom look at the weakness of whatever culture he's seeing? What's snarky way to have him introduced than by saying like, oh, these people have fallen, it's time for me to, you know, use my power or just a commentary on all of these metahumans, these overpowered beings clashing. I think Latvaria is introduced at the very end of Black Panther. And I think our post-credit scene setting up Phase 5 is Doom. That's the rumor. That's how I do it.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I do think Black Panther is the absolute best way. to bring in everything in the geopolitical landscape to come. Now, from there, we're kicking off phase five with quantum mania. This is a great way to kick off phase five because our phase five villain does look to be Kang. Now, I think our multiverse villain is going to be Doom. Now, when you have your phase five villain with Kang, you're introducing him after he's been soft introduced as He Who Remains. We've met Jonathan Major's He Who Remains in Loki. We saw comic accurate imagery of Kang, but we haven't met him yet.
Starting point is 00:04:24 All of the speeches, that beautiful Shakespearean delivery in episode six of Loki, was about how he's not the worst of them. He's protected them. He's arguably the good guy of the Kangs. We're about to meet the real Kang in Ant Man Quantum Mania. Now, I was fortunate enough to see the Ant Man trailer at Hall H. We do see Kang in all of his glory, and he is powerful, he is intimidating. And I think throughout Quantum Mania, this is a film that takes place largely in the Quantum Realm. We're going to see a lot more time elements.
Starting point is 00:04:53 We're going to see a lot more reality. and time manipulation, which is what Kang is about, which is going to set the precedent for where phase five goes. But throughout that, I think we're going to be having slight hints at Doom or someone that might be working with Kang. I think sometimes in the comics, Doom and Kang are sympathico for their greater good. I think where Kang controls time, Doom might control space as in physical land. I think these two are going to be collaborative.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And I'm not sure if Doom will physically show up in quantumania, but I would almost guarantee elements of quantum mania will relate to Dr. Doom as we kick off phase five. Now, Secret Invasion, this is our big paranoid thriller. This one is a TV show that looks like the most espionage elements of Winter Soldier bringing us out to that grounded reality. What better way to worry about the world being invaded by aliens and the paranoia of are our heroes who we say they are than by bringing in a dictator? I think this is the first time we see him again. I think after the post-credit scene, we might now again see Doom in his full glory. I don't know how much screen time. I don't know how big of a presence. But I think while we're seeing the world expand,
Starting point is 00:06:02 as we're seeing the not just New York, we're no longer in phase one, as we're seeing everything in the MCU get more and more global, I think a great way to show Latvaria again and a great way to show the power that Doom wield setting just again. We're still at like level one of breadcrumbs using Doom as an I would do that differently, as Doom being a certain element of power and terror at a faraway land again as this expands to a worldwide secret invasion. So now we've met Doom two, maybe three times at this point. And that's great because it's a lot like the comic books. A lot of the time Doom is pulling the strings from behind doors and he's in a few frames, but his presence is felt. The important thing about Doom is that he's just so imposing
Starting point is 00:06:38 and he's got a Ness, for lack of a better term. He is always authoritative and terrifying. Now I think we get to see where he comes from. I personally would utilize his mother in the Agatha show. His was a witch. The powerful thing about Doom is he's as smart as Reed, but he also wields magic. There's a lot of superheroes that are very overpowered, but magic is there, for lack of a better term, kryptonite. Doom wields both science and magic. If you remember back to Thor, Thor is talking about how magic is just science you can't explain yet. I think Agatha brings that to play. We've got chaos magic already established in Wanda Vision. We've got what corruption that does already established. What if Doom and Doom's mother wield a form of chaos magic? What if Agatha
Starting point is 00:07:21 Agatha knows Doom's mama. What if all of that comes in here? And we see the birth of the concept of Victor Von Doom. If not, Victor Von Doom as a child himself, launching us through time, bringing us to adult Doom in a more established way by this point in Phase 5. Now, here we are with New World Order. The world distrusts heroes because of secret invasion and because of the things I think set up in Miss Marvel with the Department of Damage Control, leading to Thunderball. The world doesn't know what to do with this new era of hero. Now, in the Sam Wilson, Captain America comic books. People don't like Sam Wilson, wielding the shield, much like trolls on the internet. Don't like Sam Wilson wielding the shield. We live in a tempestuous world in our reality
Starting point is 00:08:01 and in the MCU's reality. People like to let chaos weaken nation. People like to let instability cause riffs in power. I think Doom, maybe not as much as he's in Agatha, but I think Doom might be implemented here as someone that's trying to use the weakness of a world fighting itself, which I do thing is going to come into play in New World Order, and I don't think it's a coincidence that this film leads into Thunderbolts. I think the events at the end of New World Order, with an instability, with a nation fighting itself, with a rivalry between heroes and the public, all of these things. It's time for Doom to want to take over power, and I think there's going to be a lot of elements of him between this and Thunderbolts. And from there, from Thunderbolts, I think we go
Starting point is 00:08:41 right into Fantastic Four. Now, the Thunderbolts are a bunch of heroes that are actually villains. They're playing as heroes to manipulate the public. I'm wondering if Doom will literally be the Norman Osborne of this world. What if instead of Norman Osborne, a Sony character that has often led the Thunderbolt? What if it's literally a villain manipulating things? Now, we do have Baron Zemo. And Barron Zmo is the original leader of the Thunderbolt. I would actually prefer they use Barron Zmo.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I think Daniel Brule is fantastic. But if they don't, Doom's a cool option. Now, as far as Fantastic Four, we now know it's not an origin movie. So we're going from Thunderbolts, ending the Phase 5 into Fantastic 4, kicking off as of now as of what we know phase six what if that conclusion what if that cliffhanger is an avengers level event as the phases have so far ended and then we kick off with things in disarray things in chaos what if doom has met the fantastic four because he was scarred in the accident that caused them but we meet them through knowing more about this character than them
Starting point is 00:09:38 now we might throughout phase five meet sue or read or even human torture ben grim there's rumors that Ben Grimm is popping up very soon. But if we've got sprinkles of them leading up to their team up movie, that's a better way to build them like the Avengers, right? Remember we had individual movies of these characters than the Avengers. What if we meet them and we kind of sympathize with Dew? What if there's some empathy for this character? Because we've met him as a child in Agatha, because we see how he wants to rule his kingdom. We maybe even see how his people love them. Now, obviously, he's a fascist. He's a dictator. But that hasn't stopped Americans from loving dictators before. You heard me. That might be the interesting way.
Starting point is 00:10:13 to go into Fantastic 4 with some empathy for Doom being conflicted by the Fantastic 4 in their first team movie. That brings us to the Kang Dynasty. Now, this phase I've focused on Doom. There's going to be a lot of Kang in it too, but I'm focusing on Doom for this video. And that's important for this movie. I think with Kang Dynasty, we've basically had two villains running things in phase 5, and that's really fun. If that's accurate, I think it's going to be a really interesting way to differentiate the multiverse saga from the Infinity saga because we've had a phase 5 led Kang, but now a phase 6 led doom.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And I think while the dynasty of Kang is running through time, chasing his love, manipulating reality by way of time travel, and causing havoc throughout centuries of problems for centuries of different adventures, I think the way the Kang dynasty ends is that what we thought might happen at the end of Loki with the TBA and everything exploding,
Starting point is 00:11:08 What if reality itself can't handle the amount of manipulation that Kang has caused? What if the Avengers have failed to an even greater level than they failed in Infinity War? What if reality, as we know, it breaks? And the only person that can keep reality together is Doom using science and magic. And those Fantastic Four that we just met can't be the heroes they need to be. Doom is the hero keeping the world together and bringing us two secret wars. villain is also a hero because he wants to rule everything and he becomes the giant multiversal king of this entire phase four five and six ruling secret wars now secret wars i'm just to be
Starting point is 00:11:55 brief because we could do a we could do 10 videos on secret but i think secret wars is going to be a series of elements that take place in shattered realities i think all of the people that wanted multiverse of madness to be Fox and Sony and different continuity, they might get that with Secret Oars. And I think all of that is going to be held together, like in the comics with Battleworld, by Dr. Doom. Now, Dr. Doom is a very powerful character. I don't know what that's going to mean with manipulating these realities as far as what he wield. But that's why I think there's going to be a Kang and Doom element leading to this. And that's why I think Secret Oars might be literally the biggest movie of all time as far as in this genre.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I've been saying it for a little bit that I think where endgame and Infinity War were the culmination of phases one through three. I honestly think Secret Wars is the culminations of one through six, not just four, five, and six. I think Kang Dynasty is basically four, five, and six. I think Secret Wars is one through six. And I think our biggest bad to date may just be a character that comic fans have wanted for years to be handled correctly. I think we're about to meet him, and I think we're about to be terrified of him throughout this phase, through many different properties for years to come. I think it's about to be doom season, and I cannot wait.
Starting point is 00:13:04 All right, you lovelies, these are just theories. this is conjecture this is all for reading way too many comic books read some comic books if you want to know which comic books i would recommend for doom check out the doom video on this very channel i did a whole breakdown of who had cast as doom why doom's important all of those elements and those are still going to be in my comic recommendations i love giving you guys comic book wrecks please do check those out and i promise in the next video i'll give you some fresh new ones but in the meantime please do like subscribe leave a comment this video was because a bunch of you said we want to see his doom video i am listening. I am reading those, and I do appreciate all the love. You rejects are lovely.
Starting point is 00:13:40 So thank you for having me here. Thank you for sharing this video. I've seen these views go up and it means the world. Also, you guys are watching a fuck ton of this. Like a lot of it, I see the length and it makes me so happy. Please go tell your local comic book store. You love them. Tell you mom, give her a hug. Appreciate you guys. I'll see you soon.

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