The Reel Rejects - COY'S COMIC CORNER: Marvel Phase 4 RANKED! All 18 MCU Movies & Shows

Episode Date: November 27, 2022

With Guardians Of The Galaxy Holiday Special & Black Panther Wakanda Forever out, it's time for Coy Jandreau to do his Ranking Of All Of MCU PHASE 4! Films on this list include Wandavision, Loki, Spid...er-Man No Way Home, Shang-Chi, Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness, Thor Love & Thunder, Falcon & The Winter Soldier, She-Hulk, Moon Knight, Hawkeye, I Am Groot, & MORE! #Marvel #MCU #Disney #DisneyPlus #MarvelPhase4 #MarvelPhase5 #avengers #avengerssecretwars #avengerskangdynasty Become A Super Sexy Reject For Full-Length T.V. & Movie Reactions! https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Support The Channel By Checking Out Our High-Quality Merch: http://shopzeroedition.com/collections/reel-rejects-merch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:41 is phase four i don't know they said the end was wakonda forever but then immediately after the guardians the galaxy had a holiday special so for the purposes of this list we're including obviously both of those we're going all the way back to wanda vision all the way through the guardians holiday special now i'm very excited for this list in particular that's because of you because you asked for this so please leave a comment let me know what else you want to see leave a like so this video does well enough i can keep making these share this with your friends argue in the comments which ones do you like rank them yourself let me know which things i got wrong in your opinion and remember that opinions are literally just that this is my journey with these films and tv shows also if you like my journey follow me on ticot where i got 15 seconds 30 second one minute reviews all sorts of stuff all sorts of data all sorts of trivia all sorts of goodness over on my ticot please do check that out And that is going to do it. So sit down, strap in. Let's rank them.
Starting point is 00:01:35 All right. I am going to get so much heat for this because I know how much people disliked some properties. And I feel like this is a nice neutral. But I'm always going to be honest with you and always go with my experience. This is my lowest ranked phase four. And that is what if. I personally, and I've said it before and I'll say it again in brief, did not connect with what if as much as I'd like to.
Starting point is 00:01:56 It never felt like it had the stakes that other MCU properties had. It never, for me, felt like it was impacting the greater Marvel Cinematic Universe, and I know that's a good thing sometimes. I like when things are bubble episodes, but that's when they're consciously bubble episodes. This felt like it was both trying to be its own thing and a shared thing, and that for me just didn't work. I loved some of the segments in this.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I think Ultron in this is actually better than he is in Age of Ultron. I think certain elements of this are actually stronger than their live-action counterparts. I think the biggest flaw here is that when I watched multiverse of badness, I was like, I don't know if this multiverse is really part of the what if thing. And I kept thinking that. I kept feeling like a little devalued. Now, by no means, is this my lowest of the greater MCU? It just happens to me my lowest of phase four. And I will completely own that is in part because I struggle to connect with animation. The medium of animation is something I'm working on being able to connect to.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And this is my own fatal flaw. And I accept that. But it is my lowest. And that's just my personal opinion. All right, keeping it spicy. And this is going to be a lot of you coming at me and saying like, oh, he changed his mind or oh, blah, blah, blah. Guys, the thing about art and the thing about opinions is upon rewatch, things do change. And I've been thinking about it since it came out.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And I've decided to move this down a number of pegs. I think Thor Love and Thunder is my second to lowest. The more I go into it, it has a lot of the things that I struggle with in the MCU. And it's also kind of tied with my next one where it devalues the characters a bit. And when you've got something as beautiful and interwoven as the tapestry that is the MCU, when one property is bad in the traditional sense of like maybe it's boring, maybe it's it doesn't deliver in a certain emotional way, that's one thing. But when something's bad in the sense of it undermines or it devalues or it makes you feel like the characters are lesser,
Starting point is 00:03:43 that's going to be some points against it in a major way. So Thor Love and Thunder, I do feel like undermined Thor's integrity a bit. I do feel like it misused Gore the God Butcher. When he was there, I dug them, but they did no god butchering. And I do feel like the tonality between comedy and drama was really disparate. And it didn't feel like it got to connect in a way that I wanted it to. When it was drama, I actually really enjoyed this film. And I think that's honestly, when I reviewed it in relation to the greater MCU,
Starting point is 00:04:08 I was thinking of all the dramatic scenes. I was thinking about the last five minutes, which I really enjoy and standby. I love Thor as a father. I love the importance of the gods being what they are in this universe. and the deal Christian Ball had made, I still stand by all of those things. But other than the goats, a lot of the comedy fell flat for me. And now that we've seen more and more releases of deleted scenes and what this movie could have been, and now that we've seen the five different versions of Hercules,
Starting point is 00:04:34 it definitely feels like a movie that was put together in post, and I can't put it higher than this spot. So Thor, Love and Thunder has dropped a bit for me, the more it's been out. Next up is a movie that I do also feel kind of undermine some characters, but is a ride. Now, if this ironically was a what-if, It probably in the top 10. Unfortunately, it is not a what if.
Starting point is 00:04:52 It is part of MCU canon. And it doesn't feel like it understood what came before it in a way that was honest to the characters. And that is Dr. Strange in the multiverse of madness. I know this is pretty low. And I'm going to, you know, obviously get to my experience of these other things. But I love what Sam Ramey sets out to make. And I love the genius of Sam Ramey's mind. But when you go from, and I've said this before, I feel like we got one through seven of the 10 moment arc of Scarlet
Starting point is 00:05:19 Witch and then this was like oh we're going to do eight nine and ten and it rushed she literally turns around and she's the Scarlet Witch I understand that the end of Wanda Vision she was becoming the Scarlet Witch but she wasn't yet so when she literally pivots and goes evil it feels like a
Starting point is 00:05:35 bad comic book delivery it feels like I miss some issues so between that and some of the editing choices in rushing certain things I would love to see a two hour and 40 minute version of what Sam Ramey made because I love the Sam Rame movie in here and I enjoyed the horror in here Some of my favorite visual horror elements in the greater MCU.
Starting point is 00:05:52 The cloak is incredible. Some of the beautiful zombie moments are way more exciting and more for me than I would have expected. The 90s overlap fade montages, all exceptional. There's a lot here that works. But when things don't, like America Chavez, stepping on an exposition machine and being told her history, that I can't put that higher than this. So unfortunately, these two films back to back are on the lower side. Coming in at number 15, the first of the live action shows of this rigmarole is Hawkeye.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Hawkeye is a character I love dearly. Hawkeye is a character that I love specifically in the run they based us off of, the Fraction AHA run. Cape Bishop is one of my favorite new characters in the MCU. I'm a giant fan of her. I think the Haley Steinfeld casting is immaculate. I think that Jeremy Renner getting more time to shine as Hawkeye is so needed. I loved getting more Linda Cardalini. I loved so much about this show.
Starting point is 00:06:44 But I loved the other shows more. And the ending. I did not feel like this stuck the landing. a flaw that Marvel had to the point where it did come up in she-holt. I do think that this was one of the examples that She-Hulk referenced. I do think that there were things that absolutely were incredible in this. And that's what's interesting about these lists is I love the greater MCU. So even the things I don't enjoy, the three we've said so far,
Starting point is 00:07:04 they're still in that C-C-minus range for me, which is still a bell-curve average. This is like a B-minus. This is still something I think is better than a lot of things, but something has to be lower. And because of the ending, because of what it did with Kingpin, because of some of the rushed exposition to get to action because of some of the rush exposition there were some moments that i was like man this isn't quite there it's very close still a high b minus but it is what it is hawkeyes number 15 number 14 she hulk she hulk is very
Starting point is 00:07:33 interesting in that a lot of the time i struggle with the third act of mc a lot of the time i think like man the second act of this and most of the first act is just aces it's crushing it i think that's genius they acknowledge that in she hulk i think she hulk i think she Hulk is overall very funny, very inventive, very witty. I'm not putting it this spot because of CGI because that is a part of the puzzle, absolutely. But with the pandemic, with everything it juggled, I am going, hey, I'm going to give a little asterisk there. I understand that you're inventing a new type of character in a different way.
Starting point is 00:08:05 We'd had the models for Abomination for Hulk. We'd had different character sets where that CGI could look different. So that isn't as big of the deal for me. It's when a joke is a joke for the sake of a joke that feels like it's doing it. at me instead of with me when I feel like it's going like, ha ha, I want to be with them on this journey. And I love the twist at the end, so much so that I forgive a lot of that. But there were some episodes in the middle of this that even with knowing the twist
Starting point is 00:08:29 did feel like they fell flat comedically because they were looking for the joke instead of looking for the character development, instead of looking for the evolution of the MCU, instead of looking at what rules that actually could be born of this. This is a lawyer show. We barely got any law. This is something that really could have set a precedent for comedic lawyering to grow out what the rules of the NCU are but instead a lot of the time it was like joke joke joke joke joke cool scene joke so the first two in the last two episodes absolutely incredible i think it's the
Starting point is 00:08:57 opposite of most third act problems i love the ending of this the middle sagged a bit so it's a little lower we've got another show coming in at number 13 and that is the falcon and the winter soldier i'm very curious about where the show ends up landing overall because now we're into the bs we're out of the b minuses into the bees and i think with thunderbolts and i think with time this one might get even higher This is a show that I don't think people realized how riveting it was week to week. There's certain episodes that blew up the internet. I think the shield moment was one of the most impactful moments in the MCU. I think some of the speeches in here.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I think Barrenzimo dancing. I think there's a lot that really was impactful. I think it gathered that espionage tone. I think seeing, you know, our white wolf in Bucky Barnes with the Dora Malagia was really impactful. I've seen these characters go to therapy when the entire phase four is about what it is to go through trauma. These are very important moments. But there were a few things. you know that that did fall apart like the villains had to get rewritten and excised because their
Starting point is 00:09:52 plot was based around a virus and a vaccine there were moments where i was like why is baron zimo this chill with these guys he is a villain they had to do some creative you know suspension of disbelief sometimes it didn't work a lot of times it did i think this show is better than people remember i think this show is a great way to do action with a tv budget i think it evolved both bucky and our new captain america very very well gave us great supporting characters that we're gonna see again in Captain America 4 and I'm really excited for all that. But until I see where Asai Bradley goes, until I see what lands with Eli Bradley and these other characters, it's on the middle of my overall journey, but I enjoyed it quite a bit. All right, next up, we've got
Starting point is 00:10:27 Moon Night. Now, Moon Night is an interesting one because it is all of the problems that Sheelks demonstrated, the third act issues and the final episode being, you know, a punch month. But when it worked, it worked so well. I loved Ethan Hawke here. I think Oscar Isaac's acting, maybe some of the best acting in the MCU. I think what Oscar Isaac was able to do, riveting us for six episodes of just incredible psychological acting and action, what they were able to do with the character design. What these three directors, Justin, Aaron, and Muhammad were able to do with this world. They were able to build a tapestry of religion and backstory and future story and psychology and this cult of personality. They were able to do all these things while Conschus running around looking incredible.
Starting point is 00:11:11 While you have hippopotamus gods running around that feel like, yeah, that's totally. a thing. It was able to suspend the disbelief in ways I didn't think responsible. I didn't think consue would look like I could reach out and touch him. I didn't think I could run into Conchua in a back alley. Now I feel like that reality. So it's got to get points for that. If the last episode didn't turn into a punch mom, I think this would be very high on my list. I did feel the ending didn't quite grab me. But overall, Moon Knight did a lot right. And I feel like that is due to the trust that this show had in its audience. And that's the main thing that I love about it is they let the creators and the filmmakers make something that trusted us and that's
Starting point is 00:11:49 really beautiful and i loved it all right now back to movies we've got black widow now admittedly i'm one of the few people that got to see us in a theater i will completely own that might have enhanced my experience but this is one of the ones i don't understand the hate behind uh this movie was jason born with black widow like i wanted this movie gave me some incredible red room sequences this movie gave me some brutal action this movie introduced us to florence pew as our new black widow This movie gave us David Harbour's Red Guardian. This movie gave us a beautiful send-off for our Black Widow. Now, there are things I don't like.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I did not like the Taskmaster being mechanized and not having powers, but basically just using, you know, computerized version of powers. That didn't work for me. I didn't like the Taskmaster with Mute either. I didn't mind her being a woman, but I did mind that she didn't have all of the snarkiness of Taskmaster because that's all dialogue-based and they get rid of that. But when it was working, the opening plane sequence with David Harbor, Rachel Weiss,
Starting point is 00:12:41 taking off that incredible sequence that lays you into this film, genius. The twists and turns with Rachel Weiss, the things they were able to do in making David Harbour this guy that you shouldn't like, but man, he's so charming, you're in. And again, the action set pieces. I personally got a whole lot out of Black Widow, but I'll totally own the first time I saw it was in a theater, and that really enhanced my experience. As I always say, a movie theater is the best way to watch these movies or shows. Just see it as big and loud as you can.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I will always hold that Black Widow experience as a very, very special one to me. So it's in that solid B plus range. All right, we're into the top 10 and now into the solid B plus territory. We've got the Guardians of the Galaxy holiday special. This was magic. This was what you love about the holidays. This was that feeling of family and sentimentality. This was that warm fuzzy.
Starting point is 00:13:31 This was the guardians, so they're characters that you can't help but love. This was a showcase for the same. hide characters we haven't gotten to spend as much time with we know we love dracks it's good to get him as our co-lead we haven't had nearly enough time with mantis until this i love that palm clentoff got her i think that's how you pronounce me pom clentoff got her time to shine because she's so genius such a unique force in comedy and she's able to do so much here then you add that kevin bacon not only is kevin bacon playing kevin bacon but you see the transition of kevin bacon when he's manipulated when he's not and then you get to see kevin bacon sick
Starting point is 00:14:08 you get to have a fish out of water Kevin Bacon while he's brainwashed. You get to have Kevin Bacon playing an exaggerate. You get so much Kevin Bacon. You get like five pounds of Kevin Bacon. You get an excess of bacon. All of that with some flashbacks to Yandu. So we feel that again, which I love that they were in animation. That way we don't feel like they sacrificed, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:25 Michael Rooker's last appearance being so powerful. I loved that we got the evolution of these characters. I love that they used Michael Rooker in animation, and I love that that didn't devalue anything. I also really appreciate that all of this felt like it was continuation, but it wasn't married into anything so much so that you had to watch all the MCU again. I feel like I'm going to watch this a lot of Christmases. I feel like it's authentically a Christmas movie special, what have you. And I also feel that all of the warm fuzzies I got
Starting point is 00:14:52 and all of the laughs I got were so well earned because of these characters that we've grown up with. We've had the Guardians for so long. And I really got a lot out of this. It was a really special, special. Number nine, I'm going with Miss Marvel. Miss Marvel was really fun if you watch this channel, which I assume you do, because you're here. If you don't, subscribe, hit that notification bell. We had such a good time watching this show together. And this was one of my favorite experiences working with Reject Nation, is you guys were so responsive. We got to experience what your experience of this was, and we all learned stuff. Like, I really like when comic books can teach me while they're entertaining me. One of my favorite things about
Starting point is 00:15:27 Miss Marvel is she always felt like the modern Silver Age Spider-Man. Now, that's a very important distinction. There are different chapters of every character's history. Silver Age Spider-Man is very much innocent, protecting his town, very, you know, friendly neighborhood, very contained, but you learned about Peter and his relationships. Miss Marvel feels like that for the modern day to me. You care about Circle Q. You care about her friends. You love her family.
Starting point is 00:15:49 And in this case, you're learning about the Muslim culture. I knew so little about Muslim culture, and I got to learn so much because of the comic books. I got to learn even more here. I learned about, you know, the coming down of the wall in India. I learned about certain relationships that I never knew existed. That's because, yeah, I grew in public school. And I love that a thing that is so spectacular, so investing, so overwhelming, can also educate. So not only is it entertaining, not only is it funny, not only does it refer to things,
Starting point is 00:16:16 not only does it give it the first mutants, like that drop, by the way, it was insane. That's definitely a moment in empty history when we heard that sound cue. But it did all of that while informing, educated, and growing us as people. And there's nothing better than when entertainment makes you a better person by educating you. So Miss Marvel's a very, very, very special place in my heart, and that experience of watching it, I'll always remember. Number eight is tricky because it's like five minutes, but it's also so perfect in its five minutes.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I didn't know how to include this in any other list because it is so short, but it is like those Pixar animated shorts in that you want no less. You want as much of it as you can and you love every millisecond. I am Groot is pitch perfect. You are madly in love with this character throughout. You care about his hijinks. You're invested in the world. Everyone they introduce is immediately important.
Starting point is 00:17:04 You're so endeared to every scenario. This is what animation can be. And honestly, this shows that it's not just the connectivity via looking into an actor's eyes that put what if where it did. Because, spoiler alert, Groot's not real. And I felt so much for Groot and I am Groot. And it did it so quickly. This is something that I watched. And I remember consciously with each episode going, man, I can't wait to have kids and show them this.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I love that so much of what I love is something I can share with my kids when I have them. i am grout specifically like i don't have kids right now but when i do that's like a year two thing like that's very soon i love how accessible the mc u is i love how beautifully available this series is and i really love that they're mixing up the formula this is minutes and it's so encompassing versus three hours of endgame versus three hours of eternals there's so much here and it's like that and i love when you can you can play with mediums and i think i am grute is there's nothing i change it's perfect all right right from one special to a special edition we're going werewolf by night is number seven this one was hard we're now into the a's any of this can change
Starting point is 00:18:09 i am grutes the first a any of this could kind of juggle around it just didn't feel fair to give something that's only a few minutes as high a ranking as stuff that endured and took years to make world by night is also minute to minute perfect uh i would change nothing i love the action i love the drama i love how immediately we're invested in characters that don't always even work in the comic books elsa bloodstone is a character that i like but i never would be like oh that's someone I'm going to read everything she's ever done. Elsa Bloodstone is a fun concept of a character. She's a good do-it.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Dias-Machina, but she's not like, I'm going to follow the exploits at Elsa Bloodstone. Now I care because of this actress just crushing it immediately. I like Werewolf by Night, but I've never sought him out. But because of what they were able to do, I want to know more of his side adventures. When something can get a comic fan to be more of a comic fan, you know it's exceptional.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Add to that, this is Michael Giacchino's directorial debut of something of this scale. Add to that that he scores all of these incredible movies, and did all of that while making this. Like, I was scoring the Batman and making wear up by night. That's incredible. So it is a abundance of riches, and on top of all of that,
Starting point is 00:19:13 it gives us Man Thing. It gives us, I would argue, one of the best practical meat CGI character since Jurassic Fricken Park. Man Thing looks like someone you can hug and you want to, but you also know he can kill you. That's the character.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I want more of Ted. Give me a Man Thing movie tomorrow because of this. And on top of all that, it was bold. It was black and white. It felt like a period piece. It felt like a unit piece. universal monster movies experience. This authentically felt like it could have been from the 30s, the 60s, or today. And I just love, I don't know. I could do an hour on this. I love this experience. It's an egg. It's great. It's number seven. It's World by Night.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Top six and where it gets hard for me to talk about it in brief. Shang Chi was for me in all of the best ways. Oh my God. They can still make me feel that phase one magic. We are so many movies into the MCU. And this was an origin movie. And I was enamored. I love. love when they're able to skip over the origin if we already know it. If I ever see pearls again in regards to Batman, it'll be too soon. I also love when they can show me that origin movies can fit in seamlessly into an already established universe, and I think Shung Chi is arguably the best
Starting point is 00:20:17 origin movie post phase one. It is everything you want from a character that is going to be shouldering a franchise. It is charm, it is action, it is comedy, it is effortlessness. When Simulieu walked on stage at Hall H, I was like, that is a movie star right there. That's a
Starting point is 00:20:33 movie star and then this came out two years later and it was like yes it is then you've got aquafina doing incredible supporting work you've got all of these incredible characters that you immediately care about and you've just met them you also bring back a twist that i personally loved but a lot of people didn't and retroactively make it better with ben kingsley you introduce an entire new world in the third act of this word dragons feel plausible and you have one of the best villains in the entire nc u i think tony leung in this is up there with any of the great villains if you watch my villain video, you see where I rank them. It is so impactful. There's so much pathos. There's so much of where you understand where he's coming from, but he's still terrifying. And this is a
Starting point is 00:21:11 movie based off a comic book that literally had Fu Manchu and Magic Rings. They bring the 10 rings to life in a very literal way. And I guarantee those 10 rings are going to be essential going forward. I think they tie to Eternals. I think they tied to Keng. I think they tied to Miss Marvel. All of that in an origin movie with maybe the best soundtrack. There's just so much Black Panther and Chung. Either way i could talk about shang chi again it's getting harder because we're getting into my faves but shang chi pitch perfect uh i wouldn't change anything and one of the best theater experiences i've ever had all right we're into the top five now i'm gonna be totally honest with you this and shang chi were tied i was like either one of these could be five i honestly it depends on my mood but this one
Starting point is 00:21:48 gets the edge because of spite because of the disrespect it received because i feel like someone needs to fight this battle so it literally edged out because i i need to acknowledge the importance of this, Eternals fucking owns. Eternals is so good. Eternals is the kind of movie I've been wanting the MCU to make to show people, hey, it is not just Cape stuff. This is a movie that
Starting point is 00:22:12 is about evolution of mankind. This is a movie about the choices we make as people. This is a movie having gods be fallible and be so fallible that we relate to them as humans while they do things that are so human that the lesser humanoid animals that we also realize are humanoid in a second act twist
Starting point is 00:22:27 are conflicting, much like humans do, whilst they end up making a choice that effectively makes them villains. There is so much philosophy here. We have characters that decide billions of lives are worth sacrificing for our lives. They make the most selfish choice. That's a villain move. It's the anti-Thanos.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Thanos was literally like, we need to preserve life by killing half, and the Eternals are like, we need to save these people. Oh, no deal with it. Fascinating. I love all of this. I also love that my experience with it
Starting point is 00:22:57 means I can have these long conversations with people. I love that my personal experience is that there are scenes where you don't see like three of the characters. And when they come back, I immediately know how they're going to react to this situation because I know them so well. And I just met them. This is the movie that showed me, a team movie in one can work. This is a movie that showed me I can be just as invested in Druig as I am in Thor. I can be so invested in these characters just as quickly as the characters I've been riding with for 14 years. That's insane in its accomplishment. Plus, so beautiful. Plus the third act action is so
Starting point is 00:23:32 riveting while not feeling tonally different from the drama this movie has been. Aternals does not get enough love. It is a masterpiece. It is so special. I've literally done interviews about this. I've been on Rotten Tomatoes is wrong to the point where Chloe Zhao re-shared me yelling about how good this movie was because I think this is the thing that I'm seeing in a way that when we look at it in five years other people I hope see it in the same way. I hope that the way I experience it is the way other people experience it in time. I personally cannot wait to watch
Starting point is 00:24:02 it in the greater tapestry when we find out how it ties in, and even by itself, it is so special. Love at Turtles. Well, Greg and I also had a great debate about it. It's Greg's favorite. All right, top four and bringing us to what just came out in theaters, Wakanda Forever. Waconda Forever is a really interesting one because I don't think I'll watch it as often because of how much it impacted me. It is a movie that strength is that it was so overwhelming that it's a struggle. Wakanda Forever is a movie that uses sorrow in a way that makes you feel the way the characters
Starting point is 00:24:40 feel on screen because you are relating to both Chadwick and Tachala simultaneously. It uses your real emotions as a tool like you're a color on the paintbrush. You yourself are a color being used to make this art. And that is incredible and so interesting. This movie uses silence as a weapon. This movie mixes up insane sight and sound with pure, serene, painful silence. If it was used in a different way, it'd be serene because it's peaceful. The sound of wind on a beach is usually about peace.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And instead, here, it's about sorrow and absence. I love that nothing is more linear than the absence of sound for the feeling of absence. When you get in an elevator, you are uncomfortable when they're silence and no one talks, because that's what elevators are. They're uncomfortable. But here, that's used poignantly. Here, they weaponize silence in a way that you feel so much for everyone.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And that's in a score by Ludwig Gornson. That is in a movie that uses sound so effectively. That's in a movie where they had to rewrite an entire experience and make this work in a year and pay homage to their actual friend that they lost. This movie is so special. This movie is like nothing else in the MCU. And this movie is what a blockbuster can be.
Starting point is 00:25:55 when you trust your audience. And I think it's really special. And it's also so impactful. The maturation of the viewers watching. You know, this is, we've lived with these characters and these people for so long. I think this movie's only going to grow in the importance of what we can do in this genre. It's a really special film. All right, top three, you lovelies, we got Wanda Vision. One Division is so close to perfect. And I had it lower for a long time because of the ending. But the more I think about it, the more I realize it was juggling. being a philosophical quandary wrapped in an action show
Starting point is 00:26:30 and that is no small task. I really for a long time blamed its final episode on the creators making something that was like Marvel. Instead, I realized, wait, this is a Marvel show. They probably needed to make something
Starting point is 00:26:44 more accessible to get us to the point where we can have a Wakanda forever. They needed to make something more accessible so we can trust them to make things like Loki Season 2, which I think is going to be even more bananas than Loki season 1.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I think the end of Wanda Vision is not how I wanted it to be, but now I understand why it needed to be that. We still got the ship of Theseus. I don't love that we went from the ship of Theseus what is Vision to punch, punch, punch. But I get it. When you make these properties,
Starting point is 00:27:09 there is a need for some of that. So now that we've done it, and now that we've made fun of it in She-Hulk, now that we've shown we don't need it in certain things, I do think we won't have to do that again. But at the time, this was the first phase four property. We just left end game. So my biggest flaw of WandaVision is the last episode.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I've almost completely been like, that's actually okay. The perks are innumerable. There's no way to list all the perks. Agatha Harkness, what they were able to do with changing time zones and the manipulation of reality, what they were able to do week to week using the format of a thing that didn't exist yet. This was the first Disney Plus Marvel show.
Starting point is 00:27:43 There was no such thing as Marvel TV to the scale. They made us every week the best marketing ever by making us go, is it Mephisto? They played us. We were much like Wakanda Forever, part of the paint on that art. we got to be vexed week to week and wonder what was going on i love that not only that but we got to see the relationship between a character that's an android and a witch be some of the
Starting point is 00:28:06 best love story i've ever seen we got to see a villain that was effectively trauma this early into the phase four being about trauma and it bookends wakonda forever beautifully because one of these people deals with trauma aggressively and does wrong things that turns her into a villain skip some steps but turns into a villain and the other learns from that vengeance and grows in Wakanda forever they're beautiful bookends to phase four they they have that whole arc by like stacking them at the end of the the comic shelf together i think wandivision immaculate plus some fun twists and turns plus some beautiful cinematography plus you know some new characters getting to start you know here i i really love wand division it's very special solid a plus number two and
Starting point is 00:28:47 the only thing that could have possibly overtaken long for marvel loki loki loki did all of the things I just described with Wanda Vision, short of, you know, Agatha Harkness and details. But the ending stuck. For me, this is the best last episode of Marvel. For me, having the last beats of action be verbal. The fact that he who remains is a Shakespearean almost puckish character, any monologue so impactfully that not only do you care about Jonathan Majors now,
Starting point is 00:29:16 not only are you fascinated by Kang, but you've just had this entire action show that is largely about, concepts beyond understanding and then you do this to cap it off it's so totally perfect it's so inventive in its world building it's so on brand for the show and it doesn't sacrifice what weirdness we had where half the show is two people talking mobius and loki talking should not be that riveting but we have incredible writers we've got tom hitleston we got owen wilson and then how do you top that or how do you you know have a resolution for that you you find jonathan majors and he remains just changes the game i think loki uh short of not showing owen wilson on a
Starting point is 00:29:52 jet ski is perfect. I honestly, if they had done that, a plus plus, plus. If they'd done that, maybe that'd be number one. I needed that jet ski. But it is every week so special. We can't forget OG Loki. We can't forget the first time we saw variants. We can't forget the moment we saw President Loki fighting our Loki. There's so many moments that are like, I'll never see that in live action. And it did it in a show about the
Starting point is 00:30:13 philosophy of what it means to be a person, what it means to exist, the philosophy of time. It did it in such a heady, special way. This show is my favorite show that Marvel has done. It is amongst my favorite adaptations of anything. Sci-fi, I've yet to watch Doctor Who, and apparently I have to because this is very Doctor Who. So it is so my jam to a level that until this came out, I didn't know how to describe to people what sci-fi I like.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Because I enjoy a Star War. I enjoy, you know, Matrix, but that's a lot like this. It's super heady. I like when sci-fi makes you look in while it's exploding out, and that is so unique. So really, really special show. Loki is my dream.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Number one with a bullet. And you guys, I mean, I, every time I say this, the comments get more aggressive. And especially in the last month, there's been this, in two months, there's been this strange surge of No Way Home hate. And I won't stand for it. And I won't let it change my opinion.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I don't know that as an adult I've ever had a theatrical experience like Spider-Man No Way Home. I don't know that as an adult, I believed in the magic of fucking cinema like Spider-Man No Way Home. This showed me that every single thing can lead to something greater. I like the Toby McGuire movies.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I used to love them. I like them. And this made me love them again. Because it put it in this beautiful context and gave me, that's a different universe of Spider-Man. He doesn't have to be my guy. Tom Holland, to me, is the exact right Spider-Man for an Avengers universe. Andrew Garfield, to me, is the comic book Spider-Man come to life.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Now, because of the way the story is told, Toby McGuire feels so perfect for that universe. that Silver Age Sam Ramey flavor that didn't quite stick with me as an adult, but I have this new, refound love for. So when a movie can make you retroactively love stuff more, I'm always going to, like, yes. And on top of that, the Spider-Verse storyline in the comic books, I always felt like was an excuse to sell toys and shirts and merch, and I was like, this is fun, and it brings in some of my favorites,
Starting point is 00:32:05 like Miguel O'Hara, Spider-Spiderman 29 and 9. But then the Spider-Verse movie showed me, no, it's so much more than that. They explained quantum physics to kids, Spider-Verse is genius, and I was like, they're never going to be able to make that work in live action. Then they gave me almost the Sinister 6, plus a Spider-Verst story in live action, plus they did it while making our Spider-Man Uncle Ben, plus they gave us the Uncle Ben death moment with Aunt May, plus they gave us power and responsibility in a way that works,
Starting point is 00:32:27 effectively giving us a six-movie origin story that absolutely works with multiple villains and multiple Spider-Man, and gave us closure for not just Andrew catching, you know, MJ, giving him that Gwen Stacy moment, not just Tom getting to meet his heroes in real life, but also get to have a father figure in these guys, an uncle figure and Toby getting to not
Starting point is 00:32:49 just have that vengeance quell which was my biggest issue with Spider-Man was he always had an anger in him that didn't feel he didn't grow out of it his arc didn't solve the anger I always felt crazy that in the Tobin McGuire Spider-Man movies he like didn't quite deserve Mary Jane their relationship wasn't great and he was always angry even before he got the
Starting point is 00:33:05 venom symbiate they addressed that and they let that vengeance lie he has to grow he grows in this into the Spider-Man I always wanted him to be all three of my Spider-Man grow into the Spider-Man, I've always wanted them to be in one movie with all these villains I love, and Redemption for Sandman, and one of the best villain performances of all time with Ulham Defoe, finally getting to be the Green Goblin. That fight through the building, smashing all the way through, the big Sinister 6, Sinister 5 fight
Starting point is 00:33:29 at the end, all of this, all of this is why it's my number one, my number one MCU film, it's my number one phase four film, uh, I know a lot of people are like, oh, without the Spider-Man gimmick, it's not a gimmick, it's plot evolving. It is closure for three sets of characters. It's building out a world. There's no gimmick when it's what the story is. I don't understand how people see using characters. There's definitely gimmicks in comic book movies. Using characters correctly isn't a gimmick. It's storytelling. It's art. And that's why it's the best of Phase 4. And I love it very, very much. And I hope you enjoyed this list. Those are the 18 Phase 4 properties ranked from my experience. My favorites, not saying one is best,
Starting point is 00:34:10 not saying 18 is worse, saying my experience of favorites. That is how I experienced. them let me know how you experienced them in the comments below let me know how you would rank them by your favorites your opinion and let me know what you liked and didn't like about this video let me know what else you guys want to see just did a big action video involving fights definitely should have included that Green Goblin fight totally will own that I didn't want to overwhelm with Spider-Man but I should have it was a great fight that said I want to hear what else you want in the new year and yeah let me know what you thought of this video like
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