The Reel Rejects - DANCES WITH WOLVES (1990) IS INCREDIBLY MOVING!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:01:14 Her drama historicals generally on the Tuesdays. All right, Aaron, tell me all your feelings. All right. concise precise decisive feelings uh i thought it was a very well-made film about an important time in history that is not traditionally covered at least not widely it was informative about giving a different perspective on what it means for someone to be an enemy or perceived enemy and learning how to you know ingrain and then appreciate somebody's culture even if it's different from your own and yeah it was it was done very well the scores were beautiful the

Starting point is 00:02:00 performances were really strong the the landscapes were sweeping and beautifully shot and yeah i understand why this is a film hollywood classic definitely have that sort of old hollywood feel to it will bring in against a culture that's not traditionally shown at least at this point seemingly in a positive or protagonistic light yeah that it was a it was really strong the first hour was you know informative he had a little on the slower side for me I was never like bored or checked out but I definitely felt the pacing and once he kind of got into the vicinity of the people it really kind of picked up for me and I really started to become invested and um ingratiated to the the culture and the people that we were learning about

Starting point is 00:02:58 and spending time with I thought it was really well done what did you not like about it what I not like about it um I don't know if I didn't specifically didn't like and I don't if I particularly didn't care for anything. Yeah, I don't know. You wish we got more of? Oh, I think maybe just getting more of the Pawnee and their perspective because I know we're trying to, part of the end of the town of the film is to destigmatize Native Americans as a whole. And I just thought it was interesting how we're getting the perspective of, you know, this one group and, you know, destigmatizing them we're on the other side with the ponny we're not really doing any of that and

Starting point is 00:03:45 they're just like kind of just these killers that like kill first and attack and just like are causing all this this just pain and destruction so i feel like maybe getting a little bit more nuanced perspective as to where both sides are coming from because you know there's there's multiple sides in the story um but yeah it was really about them so i'd say that's my only like small criticism but other than that i thought it was did a really good job you man i agree with everything you've said everything about the movie i see why it's held up like while we were watching it i was trying to put myself consistently in the in the person i mean i let it go kind of like halfway through but i was it's easy to you know predict certain plot points

Starting point is 00:04:31 that might happen not everything was predictable there were some stuff that was certain beats some stuff that i did predict that it's completely did not happen at all And that's because a movie that was this influential in cinema has influence other films so much to the point that I'll hear this movie referenced when experiencing those movies without having seen the actual source, which is this film. So to like, you know, get films like Avatar and Fern Gully and whatever the fuck else comes out. It's kind of like this. It is cool to actually, last samurai was another one that I heard referenced a lot. I could definitely see the last samurai inspirations happening here. It was cool to dissect where it was all coming from, but it actually ended up giving a very different experience because it's a Western.

Starting point is 00:05:18 I expected a little bit more westerny stuff, you know, and it wasn't that at all, actually. Like there was no real, like the violence, when the violence was there, it was violence. It wasn't like an action scene, you know, it was trying to be cool. It wasn't trying to be cool at all, even though sometimes you would get like, oh, that's a cool shot of them writing. whatever it the sequence itself was meant to be something kind of disturbing and ugly yeah uh no matter what version of violence that we were actually getting outside of the hunting of the buffalo uh that was the only one that was like wow look how beautiful it is killing these buffalo outside of that uh every every other scene was was pretty um dark but yeah um

Starting point is 00:06:06 the score was strong it was emotional and lush you were saying very sweeping throughout a lot of it and I concur with that the themes of being about identity transformation I thought hit home

Starting point is 00:06:25 you know like it's cool to see this film do it in a way that's so well executed because you know we've all heard the white savior trope and we've seen that kind of made fun of in movies like Avatar and last samurai than to watch this movie and that didn't even cross my mind right now.

Starting point is 00:06:42 Oh, yeah, that is kind of a thing that's happening here. But it's not done in a way that is disrespectful or negating because the tribe, which I can never commit to memory, I mean, on Google it says Lakota, I guess we'll call them that, but the Lakota Sioux tribe, they're not a real tribe. Either way, the way they, okay, what is it saying? The tribe in the film, Daswills, is a fictional, band of the Lakota's suit, not a real tribe.

Starting point is 00:07:14 Uh-huh. It's a cool post. It's supposed to be like Comanche setting. Okay. Whatever. All right. Well, either way. Culturally,

Starting point is 00:07:24 they were presenting indigenous people, Native Americans, in a way that I totally, I would like put my, a firm bet on it, that this was one of the earlier films to truly portray a culture without making them,

Starting point is 00:07:40 a cliche or one-dimensional. I mean, the Pawnee are kind of like sort of that. I put the actual group that we're with for most of it. You know, you see seeing what their cultures like and how that actually influences because of the breadth of this film, because of how long it is, and because of how they let nature and environment and the isolation of the frontier, all that be a character along with the experiences there. You really feel the gestation of time.

Starting point is 00:08:09 I bought into him being a part of this group. One little criticism is that I thought the narration was a little funny. Like at times it seemed like some of the lines were meant to be kind of funny, especially with the timing of when they would sometimes come in. And, you know, I get it. It could have been goofy Civil War type of, my dearest Abigail, it could have been some shit like that, or it could have been too dramatic.

Starting point is 00:08:39 So I imagine Kevin Costa was going for that just dry realism when you're just jotting shit down. But something, sometimes it did read like kind of weird a little flat. Yeah, sort of sounds like he's reading from like a school presentation or something at some parts. Yeah, I didn't feel like he was putting his emotions and thoughts into the page when he was journaling. Yeah. It seemed like he wrote something and was reading it back. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:09:04 I think part of me would have maybe wanted some more of what brought him to this story. of you know being ready to die uh in the beginning of the movie to really kind of showcase that transformation from you know not wanting to be a part of what's going on to finding a sense of tribe and belonging but really i thought i mean i thought it was serviceable but i felt like i started to really care about him once he got involved and i wish i would have like been more immediately caring about him from the jump i i guess the my my my American history is so very limited in what I actually know or have committed to memory from whatever education I've ever gotten. But to me, considering that it's the civil war, he's not like a general, you know, he's not like one of the higher ranking officers here.

Starting point is 00:09:58 And, you know, he's about to lose his leg for a fight that, you know, it's just, the idea that it's a civil war, you're fighting with your own brothers in the same country. and that then you then you cut around to the kind of people that that he's with showing the the way the mind and soul has been corrupted in this fight yeah you know a necessary fight that we had even though maybe we could have chosen a different path of going about it you know just like a voting process or some shit but you know we had to fight it out and with that fight you see how they've all changed. Some of them seem they've gone like really crazy. And so to me, I felt like everything that was inferred was strong enough to get that, of course, this guy was just feeling kind of empty and lost and kind of felt like he fought for, it didn't even seem like the reason.

Starting point is 00:10:54 When you're that, when you're that knee deep, I think, in the fight like that, you even lose sight of the whole point of the fight. Like, they don't even bring up the point of the Civil War. They don't even bring up the point of the fight. And I think you lose sight of that. And which was an interesting choice to do because that was obviously stemmed from slavery and fighting for human rights. And then he gets thrust it into the lifestyle. And then you see like this kind of hypocrisy, right, where they're fighting for the north. He's fighting on the north.

Starting point is 00:11:27 The north is fighting for human rights. Yeah. For fucking black people. But then fucking Indian people show up. We've called Indian people. You know. and they're like Savage's got to kill them

Starting point is 00:11:40 and it's like wait a minute this is so this is so counteractive to what we fought for for the whole time you know what I mean so I kind of feel like the point at least for me on my personal level I thought it was a German home but I actually do get where you're

Starting point is 00:11:54 coming from at the same time yeah I feel like you know obviously this movie gets compared a lot to Avatar and you know not to make this reaction or this review about that but I think the thing that emotionally hit for me with someone like a like a Jake Sully is the fact that he was like this guy who was disabled and he was like he brought on to this program he was like he was an underdog and then infusing the this quality of someone being an underdog through and then giving them a sense of purpose through through culture I feel like was what made that character endearing and I feel like yeah he was we know that he was somebody who was in the war here and he kind of didn't know what he was fighting for maybe I don't know maybe a little bit of that underdog quality could have been um added when granted you know that's i don't know how much this is based on something but i was

Starting point is 00:12:43 in the beginning i was like okay yeah he's a guy who like we started off showing the fact that he he was going to lose his leg and i don't want to be a little bit more history before that point or like giving some more context and like who he is or his reputation or something so i think would have um what it added something for me but i think again like eventually i did get there seeing him interact with his environment, seeing how gracious he was and how open he was to the people rather than viewing them as enemies off the bat. I thought that was, yeah, he proved himself to be a very likable lead. Oh, yeah. Friend of the channel, I got to tell you something. Before we ever started this YouTube channel, John and I actually first tried doing t-shirt designs. Let me tell

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Starting point is 00:15:28 It's weird It's like to apply the word epic is interesting Because it's epic in the way it's shot in the scale But it's not really like an epic film Yeah Epic when you usually say the word epic It's like you imagine you know Fucking battles and you know

Starting point is 00:15:42 Big action scenes usually or Like massive set pieces or something Right you know It's like sweeping it intimate at the same time Yeah it's kind of It's contemplated I would say meditative even

Starting point is 00:15:56 it's reflective and I enjoyed it quite a bit I like Kevin I mean don't get me wrong as much as I had criticism about the narration I actually like his performance a lot I think his performance is really good

Starting point is 00:16:10 and the other characters to win the hair there's so much acting that had to be done via just through like even though we got subtitles as audience members they only had body language to communicate with and you had to buy into it as it's because there's

Starting point is 00:16:29 kind of a cheat code like as an audience we're able to see what's going on both perspectives because there's subtitles but we have to buy that none of these guys have subtitles for each other and their communication has to evolve over the course of film they have to understand each other in the heat of the moment too and i bought into that at all times which gets you endeared to the characters you know even though like okay of course when i thought one in the hair guy would die but he doesn't but you know eventually that relationship's going to come around and the way it did come around i was really moved by the the relationship with stands with a fist again predictable like second she popped up kind of guess her whole background and that they would we all like they're going to fall in low there's

Starting point is 00:17:13 the one white chick here you know but i was good and dear to it i was connected to it you know i was connected to a lot of it. And I thought this whole thing was a good illustration of progress versus tradition and making our own choices as well and forming our own identities along the way. I thought there's a lot of beautiful things to be had with it. I think my dad really liked it because he went to Japan and he clearly was obsessed with Japan and wanted to be part of Japanese culture very, very bad. And I think that's what he saw himself in here. I don't know. That's just my guess.

Starting point is 00:17:50 Trying to guess. Like, why my dad loved this movie? As I was watching it, I was like, why don't he love this so much? I can't quite pinpointed. Did your dad love Last Samurai? I think he did. I don't know. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:18:04 This stuff, I mean, this was like, when it came out, you got to understand, like, when this came out, this was like, groundbreaking cinema. Really? Oh, man. Yeah, I mean, granted, the way of a shot is like, oh, my God. I can only imagine watching this on a big screen. Now sweeping it must have been. been like let's let me we don't have that many questions this look up a couple of fun

Starting point is 00:18:22 trivia stuff here uh yeah okay so yeah this came on 1990 so oh man the year I was born shit interesting poster it tells you nothing about the movie one seven Oscars directing and star uh huh let's go to the facts

Starting point is 00:18:38 it was great to the facts baby inside everyone is a frontier way to be discovered the real frontiers inside the Lakota Nation adopted Kevin Koster as an honorary member because of how well that that's what I mean that's that's really normally back then you know fucking Native American people were like you guys portray us very racist that's really cool you know oh the wolf they really stood with two socks

Starting point is 00:19:07 was so touching too I thought that was beautiful yeah there were two different wolves oh he earned his trust okay to prevent any animal possible possible Animal Cruelty, Kevin Coster's TIG production spent $250,000 on animatronic Buffalo. That's what I was wondering, too, as I've heard they, I actually, my brother taught me this fact very recent where sometimes they would do extras and then they would put blowup dolls, not like sex dolls, but like blow up dolls. So that way, if you're mixing in real extras or some blow up dolls, it makes it look like there's more extras and it makes the blow up dolls look real. I was watching. I was like, they must have mixed in like animatronic or puppet buffalo and with some real. Buffalo to make it look real.

Starting point is 00:19:46 But damn, $150,000 is a lot of money. That's expensive. He did most of his own writing. Quarter Mill. Wow, okay. Well, I don't know. He wrote it too. Wow. Yeah, co-wrote it.

Starting point is 00:19:57 Co-wrote. Well, the author, I guess the script, the credited writer on it was only the author. That's interesting. Wow, none of the actual characters, the actors do how to speak the Lakota language. They have to learn it.

Starting point is 00:20:12 Damn. That's really impressive. I want to see it like why was I'm just trying to find if there was like any of my things about why it was wow the first code this was five and a half hours long where's that version I'm curious to know what they cut out

Starting point is 00:20:30 yeah it was a whole thing we could watch oh that's cool so Michael Blake originally was written as a screenplay and then Costner came across it in 86 and he said turn it into a book that way it would have a higher chance of being made into a film that way becomes an intellectual that's smart

Starting point is 00:20:50 damn costner you a businessman you turn it into a book so he could turn it into a movie yeah that's smart that's really smart wow there were 3,500 animals in that scene but the bison that's crazy planes the largest herd north America

Starting point is 00:21:12 Let's just type it on Google AI Why was dances with Wolves Influential So well received Respectful and humanized Proteptive Native Americans There you go

Starting point is 00:21:30 Foss, dignity Revitalization of the Western genre Oh, okay, I can imagine that Stunning visuals and productions Yep, strong performances, yep See, a lot of the reasons why they're saying are things that you kind of expect out of films today when covering a subject. Yeah. And this movie seemed like, we're going to do that when no one else is really asking us to.

Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah, we're on, like, the renaissance of, like, films getting their dues and cultural respects and whatnot. But I wonder, like, what the problems are with the movie. Why is it culturally bad now? Well, one of the things you popped up said, why is it controversial? Yeah, yeah. Let's get, let's see why it's canceled now. the alleged actions of an actor in the film the white savior narrative uh-huh yeah the color language is inaccurate and laughable it was close enough for me and i don't speak it

Starting point is 00:22:28 who's nathan chasing horse he was accused of some shit oh damn okay yeah the uh okay the or show the Pony. Yeah, I feel like they could be used more nuance on the Pony side. It seems a little counterproductive if you're going to make a movie about how humane they are, but also depict another faction as like the thing that people are expecting them to be. Woke. Hit me now, comments. All right.

Starting point is 00:23:00 Well, I give it an 8 out of 10. I give it two thumbs up. Cody Price. Kevin Costor's a great actor, but he isn't even better producer and director is shown by his Oscar running and directing debut with Dances with Wolves debut. I didn't know that. Is there any IP man or genre that you would like to see Kevin Costa take on as either a producer or director after seeing this film? Right now he's got this film called Horizon Zero Doe. Didn't he come out with a movie recently that was like super long? Yeah, and it was like already shot two parts to it.

Starting point is 00:23:36 and it was like super expensive and looking for another you know he's working on part three oh my god yeah it is uh it is like baby and it is not going well in terms of financial success horizon american saga yeah how long is that a lot of money in that uh they're long they're they're seeing them no no but they are not well received oh no they're they are not writ i mean i I don't plan on reacting to it But maybe one day I'll watch it I don't know What other thing would he do?

Starting point is 00:24:10 It would be cool to see a samurai movie from him That's a three-hour movie as well 50% and 70% He really loves some cowboy stuff In westerns I'd like to see him do a samurai film Or It would be kind of cool to see him do

Starting point is 00:24:25 Something that's a little bit earlier in time period Now like Nolan's going back to doing like the Odyssey Which is of course mythical But something kind of like in that realm it'd be since he's a sucker for trying to bring a historical sense to life I'd be down for that that would be pretty cool

Starting point is 00:24:39 Let's see a Western sci-fi movie Kevin Costner It's the same concept but in space That's good for me here Gabriel our audience on Patreon Is not having any questions for this one Weird? They didn't see it Kevin Costor does not actually dance with wolves in this movie

Starting point is 00:24:57 Is it false advertising I'm just rolling for fun Love you guys Yes it is yeah he dances around the wolf kind of yeah there's like he's kind of chasing it and the wolf knocks him down he says that's dancing to some people it's a good advertiser for a patreon see you guys are the advertisement for it this is the kind of questions you can ask if you join our patreon in-depth detail questions that drive our discussion to elevating us above just a reaction channel into true

Starting point is 00:25:28 territory high art here baby like how this movie is following advertising for not having kevin coster actually dance with a wolf we're rioting as we speak to the studios and jrussian has the ultimate question question ever been to a native american reservation nope it's called america no no no no they have casinos and stuff with some of them nearest american native american reservation in los angeles let's go there to los It's focusing on the N. Oh, God, stupid A-O. Be better, I.

Starting point is 00:26:13 So technical. Oh. You're San Bernardino. Where's this? Give me the address. I'll tell you. Formal address. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:26:29 Of course they do. It's in California. Callie. we're going to see how far this is this is good this is good advertised for the patreon it's going to take a filter this is called content how far we got to drive

Starting point is 00:26:42 dude I got this oh it's two hours and 13 cents all right we're in prime traffic time but hey it's a straight shot damn near look at that

Starting point is 00:26:53 it's not too bad you have San Bernardino 66 miles from us yeah it's kind of got the redlands It's doable. Before the Redlands. Oh, Aaron, I don't want to go. I do a companion piece of this video as we go.

Starting point is 00:27:14 Let's correct all the wrongs that Kevin Costa didn't portray his movie. We'll just interview them. How did you feel about dancing with wolves? Just put a mic in their face. Yep. Yep, that's good stuff. Anyway, I'm glad we could answer these questions. Thanks for participating, guys.

Starting point is 00:27:30 Thank you. Aaron, any last thoughts? No, me too. Stay sexy. Stay sexy. Peace, everyone.

The Reel Rejects - DANCES WITH WOLVES (1990) IS INCREDIBLY MOVING!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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