The Reel Rejects - DAREDEVIL BORN AGAIN 1x01 Marvel Breakdown & Review

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Starting point is 00:01:30 Let's stop talking. There's lawyers for that. Avriconters at law! Let's do this. All right, guys. We just watched the first episode of Daredevil Born again. He's back. We know there's another episode out.

Starting point is 00:01:50 We're not going to watch it. Nope. We're going to skip to three. We'll be back next week. We're going to fill in the blanks. And we're going to blame the show. for leaving a lot of i'm gonna i'm gonna go pull behind the curtain we were debating whether or not to do one and two together uh but i i feel like we couldn't have that as a meal if we rushed into two so

Starting point is 00:02:10 maybe i was wrong you can blame me if you wanted this to be paired blame me entirely but i defend i think there's so much to discuss here that wouldn't be fair to the episode to jump into a pairing uh i want to discuss two and then review it and i want to discuss one and review it and gregg was kind enough to consider and maybe i'm wrong and we'll pair five and six together by the time we get But for now, I want to discuss one. Don't discuss it. Okay. To me, this was the definition of having a character, have a new team on a comic book that followed another run and kept the continuity, but was able to actually choose what it wanted to keep from it as far as what it front-loaded.

Starting point is 00:02:48 There wasn't ignoring of canon. There wasn't making sure it was manipulating the audience. This fully acknowledged both the Netflix journey and the Disney journey to this point, while all, being uniquely its own thing. This feels like when a great new penciler jumps on a book and either keeps the writer or gets a new writer, but they honor the last run. And it feels like a graphic novel where you can pick up like volume four and you can read this volume four. And this was the first section of that volume four. And hey, I love it. Now I want to go back and check out volumes one, two, and three. It acknowledges all of that beautifully, but it has its own

Starting point is 00:03:22 incredible visual language, its own incredible writing style. It uses the powers in a different way visually while not trying to change what the powers represent it acknowledges so much in its writing and its visuals but also the color palette is almost completely different while still being acknowledging of the original color palette like the old style i i loved when defenders was like this character represents this color this color and they would just like aggressively light stuff because it would feel like paneling and this is doing that to a point but it's also giving a broader scope of the frame while also looking more like a splash page it's it's not doing as many of like the Tom King

Starting point is 00:04:00 style punch ins that the Netflix show feels like where it's like a narrow focus narrow focus and it's like you're scanning down a frame this feels more like a cinematic splash page that goes into a dialogue scene that goes back out to a splash page they're doing so much to narrow focus and then broaden it

Starting point is 00:04:16 and that also ties into his power set and how they're using it they're doing a lot of really genius stuff by just visually telling you he's already indecisive about whether or not he's making the right decision not being daredevil they're letting you see him talking to this new woman while listening to Fist. They're letting you feel that tear and then lighting him, obviously, the very, very on the nose, but in a beautiful way,

Starting point is 00:04:37 like flashes of Daredevil's coming back. And I love the red juxtaposing, the cold blue of Fisk. And that, again, mirrors the Netflix, but also gives you this new flourish. And we talked a lot about the camera, never stopping moving. That, to me, feels like a different penciler. We talked a lot about, like, the writing being very natural in its comedy, but also, like, so heavy, I personally think killing foggy would have really, really, really upset me if it didn't stay ominous. Like, if that had happened and it felt like they fridged him, if they just did it for the sake of like, what's Matt going to do about it? But instead, it sets this entirely different tone. It is establishing that we're in a different world, but also like honoring the world that came

Starting point is 00:05:17 before it. And it gives Matt the same stakes he had, ironically, not ironically, intentionally in Born Again. In Born Again, Karen gets killed. he has to deal with that. They killed foggy here to surprise us comic people and also establish that nothing is off limits. I love this. I've talked long enough. I'm going to talk more after. But Greg, I

Starting point is 00:05:37 once saw you lose your mind over losing a beanie and now I'd like to know, do you feel redemption? I do. It doesn't feel real to me. It really doesn't feel real. I thought it would feel real, but it doesn't feel real to me. Because I'm so, I find myself

Starting point is 00:05:54 like, hyper aware of what watching in a very unusual way because you're like there's a lot of like carrying over sequelitis comparing visually comparing not just visually but stylistically i see why people called it a pilot and i'm like because yeah i see why i call it a pilot because at the same time i'm like i feel like you'd be very much like out of the conversation a little lost if you didn't watch the previous show like i don't know what's happening why should i care about this guy getting killed i think there'll be a lot like coming in where you just wouldn't be as invested in what's happening um but it definitely does feel like a resurrection show a number if we're born again in some way right and i that that foggy

Starting point is 00:06:39 death thing just really uh did a number to me like it's left me like kind of hollow and in the right way um because we were just saying like i can't believe you do the show without them For the Seconds before He was going to kill him off Seconds before Literally kill him off man And it makes the affect

Starting point is 00:07:01 Of so much Happen because With the Netflix show And the Netflix world In general It is shot more like a TV show While still having Absolutely cinematic flourishes

Starting point is 00:07:12 But everything's a lot closer A little bit more intimate And less visualistic In terms of like Music And atmosphere fear of that shit to enhance stuff of just stares and long pauses and looks and mood of that. Like it does that, but in a very different way where this felt like you're watching some type of like elevated horror art movie.

Starting point is 00:07:40 Yeah. You know, which it feels so much more graphic novel. It feels so much more comic book in its aesthetic appeal. And at times it felt like a really great fan film. film sequel um where they would have i don't mean that like in an insulting way where you do have you've seen that done before we're like actors might come back for you know to do some like dirty laundry punisher yeah something like yeah we always held your hand yeah some type of like sequel thing where oh the actors are back and it looks different they're going for like a grittier

Starting point is 00:08:13 thing for a thing that was already gritty but now it's even more gritty yeah and i think with Justin and Aaron's approach when I remember we were talking Loki season two their 70s filmmaking influences where so it's weird like

Starting point is 00:08:30 I didn't pick up on that the Moon Night directors made Loki. I totally feel the Loki director made terrible. Yeah. Well because the Moon Knight was half them and half Muhammad Diab I think it was and I think the thing was they were making sure they episodes didn't

Starting point is 00:08:47 feel too different. So I think they both kind of like subdued their thing whereas Loki was like them for I think 60 to 70% of the show. Well this feels like them. Well they made New York feel very alive and so much of the heyday of like when you talk about like

Starting point is 00:09:03 70s movies with their type of directing style they are New York city based so to do this even to have a scene that feels straight up like heat just like oh you have the villain and they're like they're basically saying

Starting point is 00:09:19 I'm going to take you down. I'm going to hunt you down. It's very much a heat scene and the heat is two of the legendary's New York actors. Yeah, I'm going to a diner having coffee with each other where it seems pleasant. But really, it's like there's a bit of a mutual respect, but an antagonism to it. And I know the foggy thing will for sure, because Disney really, they, I had a feeling they would kill off Karen or foggy. I didn't think it would be the opening scene. and they also, like, put Eldon on, like, so much of the press rounds.

Starting point is 00:09:52 They did such, and Wilson Bethel, I thought would form into bull's eye. Yeah. The fact that Kingpin's already mayor, Wilson Bethel's already fully bull's eye, and we've already met Mews very briefly, is insane in one episode. Well, yeah, they're building out the world, and it's like, it's weird. It feels more like a comic book, but it also feels like more sinister and real simultaneously. The comic's so sinister. They captured it differently.

Starting point is 00:10:14 It's an unsettling world. that feels art house and I gotta say like it doesn't feel like they just brought back the Netflix show in fact it feels like they did something different and it still feels bold

Starting point is 00:10:29 doesn't mean by pencil and writer taking over right it still feels like it's honoring the where Derrtle is in canon but it's a new team yeah this is like kind of like doing a number to me Aaron how are you feeling then? I'm feeling good

Starting point is 00:10:45 no I thought this was fascinating And it's so crazy because I literally just came off of watching Daredevil, One, Two, Three, and Defenders and all of that, right? And I was so excited to get nervous going into this because I had such a love and a reverence for that original show because I hadn't watched it since I originally watched it when it aired back in like 2015-18. So coming back into this new one, I didn't know what to expect, but I think we had different reactions to the fact that Foggy died and the same. sense that because it was so fresh, I remember so much of that show was about Matt's relationship with his Catholicism and his relationship with himself in relation to violence, in relation to that line of towing if he would murder. And the way that show ends is him on the cusp of murder Fisk, wanting to murder Fisk, but choosing not to because he rediscovered his faith.

Starting point is 00:11:42 And this beginning is so powerful because his thing is the fact that he has these abandonment wounds, right? And so many people have left him. His dad left him. His mom was in his life. And he pushes people away. So the fact that he uses Daredevil to kind of make up for that to fight crime in the face of his best friend dying in front of him, those lines are blurred in real time for the first time. So he's not able to control himself.

Starting point is 00:12:18 He kills him because someone he love is immediately in danger and he can't stop it because he's stopping the threat in real time. So he crosses that line in an interesting way. So I thought that they were able to do that both with the action and visually him feeling is helpless while also being a hero. And I never thought that them making a decision like that could work so well. Also the fact that they were able to find a line between what was established in the Netflix show and what they created for Disney Plus, which granted when they started doing that,

Starting point is 00:12:53 they didn't have plans to rewrite it and rework it because they shot six episodes of that original series. And what they were able to do in spite of the fact that they shot a completely different show is extremely impressive. It feels like something that's, I don't know, parts of reminded me of like good time parts for reminded me of like i don't know like michael man and um and collateral and just these other new work based sort of movies and the way that they were able to capture the street level of new york in a way we haven't seen before it's so interesting and crazy that a show like this and a show like hawkeye both about street level new york stuff exists in the same university there are totally different approaches and how they handle what it's like to be on the

Starting point is 00:13:35 ground of the MCU and so far it doesn't feel like an MCU thing because I was I was watching it and fully having the awareness of all of this history but I'm like huh we could have done this the whole time and actually treated this with character and have a slow pace but we just chose not to because we wanted to prioritize I don't know just like these six episode models granted those before they figured out you know that they needed showrunners but anyway I think that this was able to do it in such an effective way and and increase the pace in a way that didn't feel inorganic or not authentic. I think it was able to do that in a way where it honors the emotionality of the original show while punching it up with

Starting point is 00:14:18 a strong visual language and its colors and its and its scent. And I'm just, I'm, I'm blown away. I'm impressed. I'm, it's one of those things where like you're watching it and kind of to what Koi was saying, it feels like a different creative team and a different art style, right? But You don't need the, you maybe need some, like, reference for what happened in Daredevil, sure, but I don't think it heavily relies on it because it isn't try to pull too much of the specifics of the history of that show, just the basic outline of what happens. And yeah, I'm super impressed and I'm satisfied and I'm excited to see where they go next. Also, another thing, Fisk and Vanessa's relationship is extremely interesting in how they've established it so far because season one was all about. him learning that he could be someone worthy of love and then acquiring Vanessa he's not really in season two but he's motivated by Vanessa season three he's motivated by getting Vanessa back and

Starting point is 00:15:16 now he has her so for the first time we're seeing a Fisk actively with Vanessa and they've been together for years now so what does that do for his character now that he's already got the thing he's been pining after for three seasons now it's the city and and I love that the mayoral approach feels so natural to the progression of the story because in the comics he becomes mayor fisc and it definitely felt natural to the character while also being like oh they need a summer event and like

Starting point is 00:15:42 because comics always have like big events that brings the whole world together and like the registration stuff that I've been saying for years is coming it definitely felt like it was leading to that but the actual characterization of Vincent Xenofrio is Wilson Fisk I love that him running for mayor feels natural because it doesn't feel like oh this happened

Starting point is 00:15:59 in the comic how do we make that the Vincent character it feels like that's a place that Vincent's Kingpin could go and all the scenes of him talking about why he wants to do it all that feels really natural and i don't know i'm i you you mentioned it feeling surreal to be watching it i've only ever had this other thing once and it was during no way home and spoilers for no way home uh when we first have toby come out of the portal and then not long after andrew sorry Andrew comes out of the portal and then not long after toby comes out of portal we didn't know for sure we all heard and we all

Starting point is 00:16:33 saw the photo thanks to Toby's dick John Campia but we all had that experience 12247 is the D word not allowed either it's a TVMA show Toby that we have to you know work around the hot dog of Toby that is seen in the Campia image we'd all seen that

Starting point is 00:16:51 and so there was that surreal moment of like what's real it's happening and like it I remember that was the closest I got like watching No Way Home at the premiere I've been doing press for it for six months I've been waiting for it whole life like the Andrew Garfield coming back had been like a decade and I remember just being like oh this is actually happening and like looking around the theater and this felt like

Starting point is 00:17:12 that for an hour like this was truly like a that we saved it at daredevil we did it and like it's not bad no amazing it didn't it didn't come back just to be daredevil it came back because it had something to say yeah and it came back in a way that like even the detail of in daredevil and then the defender shows the light was harsh and it was used to color what was in the frame to feel like a comic. I love that here, Justin Aaron have evolved that to have the actual atmosphere of New York get colored

Starting point is 00:17:41 more than the actual foreground. It's like they use that mist of New York and they use the energy and atmosphere of New York to make the color dissipate in a way that feels sinister in a way that feels horror, but also colors the frame in a different way, thus giving you an actual different artist. Like, they're doing some really fascinating stuff.

Starting point is 00:17:59 You know, guys, I gotta be honest with you. I am, I I've had a hard time I'm past the fuck you day oh we can tell I can tell it's really I don't want to say

Starting point is 00:18:13 anything about how do I say this because I know cool I don't want to drop even the slightest clue Aaron can probably pick up on when like a character dies and it pisses on you probably have some idea of what I might be hinting at

Starting point is 00:18:29 when I say that right yeah okay I don't want to to ruin jack shit um and i'm not gonna leave it at that with that i remember being pissed and then that turned into one of my favorite things of all time okay just trying to really be vague with my words right now so i can totally move past and get on board i just didn't have time to process what happened what i'm like oh my god like they just murdered this guy and it's um like the the last season with them ends with that and elden it has been part of the press rounds and while i haven't been absorbing all that shit i've been because i've been intentional about not

Starting point is 00:19:14 i want to hear too much 125 the s word was oh that's no that's pg 13 and f oh we can say that yeah you can't i don't know it's not my rules such a weird thing you do it's not my the name richard should be allowed if you use choose it in the name, Richard. Yes. Toby's Richard. If I say the suicide squad versus talking about the act of... Unalifian squad.

Starting point is 00:19:40 Yeah, suddenly it's like a very different thing. Anyone that complained to the comment, this is what we deal with. This is like, I've seen it happen. We're like, why are we demonetized? And then I'm like, because of that, one second has happened. Will Smith-Fith movie, King Richard can't review it? People think we're being like prudes. I'm like, that's not exactly the truth at all.

Starting point is 00:19:59 Oh, my God. Sorry to death. I interrupted. But, yeah, the death of him was, because I'm like, yeah, I mean, I came here to see like, Daredevil and Wilson Fisk, which I'm getting. But Foggy's such an integral part of the journey, and it ends with that. I'm like, oh, we've just done away with that. But I understand, though, that when you're doing this setup, like, you have to have that start. And I'm sure by the end of this journey of season one, it's going to lead there.

Starting point is 00:20:28 And I like what it does as a character set up for. Matt Murdoch of if you're going to give a reason for this guy to really abandon the suit, give up this identity in a way where obviously there's still a calling to it, but he rejects it. You know, typical Matt. You've got to have it well justified and believable. And even if he's under this. So I like what it does as a setup. And I like how it does cast a pall over everything and how it creates this distance with him and Karen. Like there's a lot that I think it does help serve it's just to do it off the offset

Starting point is 00:21:03 to throw you for a loop and I'm like man I like I'm watching this opening scene that were this like brilliant oneer with like a unique oneer where it does straight up look I kept saying it because it does it looks like a video game cutscene in the coolest way so we don't know freaking bad ass

Starting point is 00:21:20 those are and then I keep flashing to Foggy the way how Matt's keeps checking in I'm still like he's like dying out there like he just got shot like this is crazy um so yeah it did feel like a devastating uh horror effect i just haven't had time to process what what just happened and i know there's going to be some people who are pissed and some people who don't care there's going to be a lot people like erin and and i'm i'm more like

Starting point is 00:21:44 i know i'm going to come around to it uh just right now i'm dealing with the uh hollowness it has left me with and so that's why i kept me sort of at a observant distance sometimes when i was watching the show because i was i was so caught up in that choice this is why gregg wanted to do episode two right away he's hurting he wants to move on he wants to see how it evolves he wants to what's episode two I want to heal can I heal but no I mean I like the

Starting point is 00:22:11 I still I still love being here I loved it I did love it I know I logically know that it's hurt right now it's like there's pain underneath the hollowness and then I'm hollow because it's painful but the and yeah but you guys talked about Wilson Fiske and Vanessa what a like they're taking some bold

Starting point is 00:22:27 choices here and that choice is something I told again on board with because like when you think of Wilson and Vanessa you think utmost loyalty and passion and will do anything for each other they'll bleed for each other and then find out that in between like they've been distant and she's had another man and

Starting point is 00:22:43 right that's what they're applying right and I also love the visual language of him choosing the gray suit and her wearing the trademark white like she's in power in that scene he's wearing a suit that's like a normal like they visually moved him over and I like how he's feeling like how he's feeling like as much as he's rising in the strength

Starting point is 00:22:59 the mayor he's feeling a bit humbled and weakened and I think this is you're going to see him rise back into his full power like I like how we didn't see him do jack shit in terms of something illegal in the first episode he stood and sat no I think

Starting point is 00:23:15 just just they're relying on that history that we know Matt of Wilson Fisk and then Matt knows of Wilson Fisk you're like do we trust him? Is he really about this? I don't know even the weight lost to add it I'm sure that was like Vincent Norfrey just lost some weight but to add it to the character as like feeling different this guy is like looking like he's doing something good

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Starting point is 00:25:28 That'll be like, the character will gain weight as he like goes descent into darkness because of like become kingpin again. Yeah. That'd be interesting. But another thing I wanted to say that I didn't say before is the fact that they're bringing back, I guess a smaller version of the superhero registration act,

Starting point is 00:25:43 which was kind of a footnote, like a little floof in the MCU, but now we're actually going to give it some of the time it deserves. I've been yelling that since what? Before Ms. Marrow? I've been saying since I think two years ago that that's how you bring X-Men in. because without a world that hates and fears them.

Starting point is 00:25:58 Miss Marvel was when I started being like, it's got to happen. I think you did say it would be Wilson Fiske. And it would be during Daredeh. And like I've been saying, the way you bring in X-Men is you establish a world that hates and fears them and you need people in positions of power

Starting point is 00:26:10 and I think it's Mayor Fisk. And like that's, I was shocked to hear that word in the opening episode. Because again, all of them, Disney, I don't give you a lot of credit for your marketing. You've done it. Like this is an entire episode that I thought was the whole season.

Starting point is 00:26:24 Everything we've seen, 80% of what we've seen in the market is this episode. Yeah. I don't know where this show goes. Yeah, we also gave him

Starting point is 00:26:30 a love interest in the first episode, which normally takes like at least half a season. Yeah. And they did it super organically. And they gave her the hair of Electra

Starting point is 00:26:37 in the comic books. Like, the whole time I was like that looks like a Marco Chichetto drawing. Like, they've done some really interesting stuff.

Starting point is 00:26:43 And I also love that the way the show feels paced is a nine, like it feels like it's going to be an epic. It feels like an arc. I'd like to, I've been on a big New York kick here. I mean, rewatching.

Starting point is 00:26:57 I want to supercut Roxy of Greg praising New York. What I love is like rewatching season three. I'm like, ah, New York feels like New York City. And then watching this, I'm like, oh, that's really New York. It feels like New York. Like the wide shots that they do here where there's just so much happening in the background at all times in every shot. Right down when they're in the having coffee, you would think they just plopped Charlie Cox and Vincent DeNofrio, the actors

Starting point is 00:27:27 are like, let's just shoot the scene. And they just let New York, maybe that was the case that, like, New York's just happening in the background. I'm like, that can't be the case. No, no. Otherwise, we're going to guys. Filming in Genofrio with terribly. Yeah. Like, so, but it feels like, that's what I mean by. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:43 It's simultaneously feels way more artsy and more real at the same time because of choices like that, like him and Vanessa, not Vanessa, him and therapist are out on a they're a bad call for Matt to date a therapist. Yeah, come on, Matt.

Starting point is 00:27:59 He got problems. But him and therapist out on a date. And the whole time, you could just see all this life. Like, this looks like New York. Like, there's just so much people, people ling. In the same way that I was talking about artists and writers, it feels like a different burrow. Yes, yes, it does. Like, it feels like you have the Netflix borough.

Starting point is 00:28:18 And now we have this Disney Daredevil burrow. And they both feel like New York. Even Josie. It's like this actually feels more like the, New York I just visited with how populated it is at all times. Rejected East is coming, you guys.

Starting point is 00:28:33 Every time Greg says New York, you were in one step closer to rejects east. I feel like I will live my life with, I feel like if I'm on my deathbed here in L.A., I'm going to be like, I should move to New York. I think about it every single winter. I'm like, I miss New York. And, oh, God, what was my final?

Starting point is 00:28:49 I literally had just like one last thing I wanted to get out. Someone talked like. So another thing that I really liked about this, episode was the fact that I saw an interview like a small interview with the cast and was Alton there he was talking about the finale fucking promoting this shit the whole time

Starting point is 00:29:07 it worked fooled us yeah here's what I did with Foggy for this season yeah but Deborah Ann Wolf in that interview was talking about her being so far away from the character for so many years and not knowing if she would know how to play Karen again and she her her fears were doing like a

Starting point is 00:29:25 apparent impression because she's trying to recapture what she did in the first show and before I say my next thing first of all I want to say Vince DiNoffrio I love you but watching the original show coming fresh off of that and then into echo it was weird watching Vince

Starting point is 00:29:41 DeNofrio play a guy that looked like Fisk sounded like Fisk but not feel like Fisk because it felt like in that show he was trying to do remember what Fisk felt like and to see he sounded like Fisk but he felt like just a mobster who had who just loved this daughter, rather than that awkward rate permeating from in him every time he talks.

Starting point is 00:30:02 And it seems like maybe it's the strength of the writing, maybe it's the comfortability of the directing team or the creative team in this one, but he feels authentically fisk. Every character feels authentically like themselves, but again, with a different writing team. It feels like they're the naturalistic way in which they're talking, but is also this natural way of comedy that permeates through each conversation, like the talk in the diner, or the talk between Matt

Starting point is 00:30:29 and the therapist in the restaurant. I'm like, okay, this, the writing of this doesn't feel like the other show, but it still feels authentic to the people that were watching. And I really appreciated that being president, because that was one of my worries going into the show. Did you remember your thing?

Starting point is 00:30:45 I have one last thought. No, please go. I wanted to see if you need more time to vamp in your mind. I have a whole problem is I'm listening. oh who do you think you are i'm not i'm not thinking about what is it's into my actual thing my last thing is uh i've been doing this a long time here at real rejects and this in all of my reactions this is the first time where i'm so used to i watch stuff and like when i'm at home i'm not talking i'm watching and it took me a little bit to adjust to enjoying but also still having commentary and then also making sure it was like commentary worth saying like this is a very

Starting point is 00:31:18 interesting job because you have to kind of separate your brain into two halves like enjoy and make sure you're watching and retain it but also like have commentary that's worth sharing and also you don't want it to be too long between thoughts and this is the first time and you also have to have the heart at the same time the emotion that is them connecting right like you want it to be coming from a place uh and warmth which i lack but uh the thing that i thought was really interesting is this show for the first time i wanted to say something not because of like uh I had a thought and it had been a little once we talked. And it was the first time at Greg's ever been like,

Starting point is 00:31:53 don't talk. I don't think I've never done that. It was so funny. I was like, my brain was like, you're doing a job. You must speak at all time. And you were like,

Starting point is 00:32:02 don't talk. They're about to have a moment. I was like, but I have to. Because as the audio started dipping out, I started, I was like, I think this is Matt.

Starting point is 00:32:10 I think Matt's about to confront him because the audio. And I'm like, wait a minute, you're going to miss it. It's so funny. I was like, we're reacting, it's funny.

Starting point is 00:32:17 Like, Half the people here have done that to me. Like, Roxy has straight up been like, like she's straight up done that. It was so funny. I don't think I've ever actually done that to anyone before. I was like,

Starting point is 00:32:30 we're going to miss the moment. We have to talk or they'll take it down. Well, I think that's a different thought. I think what Justin Aaron have done with utilizing, because the direction is very calculated. Every shot is always kind of moving in. or out or handheld like there's rarely a still shot and the way they have decided to use like there's a bit something kind of disorienting about the show in a complimentary way with the way the way the camera work is done that seems really reflective of a matt murdoch state of mind yeah i agree and then you have Greg definitely not distracted by all the noise happening

Starting point is 00:33:16 You hear it for this? So roughly it would audibly be taken. And then you have the way they use his senses to pan around or use the letterbox to go in and out to zero in. Like, whoa, what a unique visual that we've never seen done for Daredevil before where he just can't turn these senses off. And I was like, oh, shit, this, like, with low. their direction style felt like someone's watching them all the time like they're meant to be like there's a presence watching them is this all part of he who remains his plan to come to find out it was spoilers and then this one it's like oh we're we're locked into like Matt's state of mind and he's overrined and their stuff always moving and yeah that and I was like that again that complements the simultaneous duality of realism mixed with hyper-artistic visual flourishes as well. So the more we talk about it, the more I love it.

Starting point is 00:34:25 Yeah, this is really impressive because I like that they went bold. I like that they went by. I mean, it's not like so violent yet to the point where you're like, you've topped it. But you're like, oh, no, but this show's not going to hold back. Like, this is going to go violent. This is going to go really. I mean, even in the bar scene with the bull's eye, just like, I'm going to take this cue ball and just shoot, kill this person. I'm going to throw a cue.

Starting point is 00:34:42 Like, wow, he's just murdering not. I like how you have to kind of rewatch that scene because there's so much happening. 11 deaths, we heard. Now what I'm waiting for, I mean, they took their, they did their oneer in the first episode, but there might be another one. They'll be a hallway. Yeah. That was a old boy up. Because that was definitely like a very CG, that was more of a CGI enhanced oneer that I thought looked really cool.

Starting point is 00:35:04 Mm-hmm. I think we'll get our gritty. Yeah, but I do want the gritty oneer that they provide for us. Before they confirmed the Rousseau's for Secret Wars, there was a, uh, winning. where it was Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars was announced and it was I think Daniel Death doesn't Critton doing King Dynasty and everyone was

Starting point is 00:35:22 saying who do they want for Secret Wars for me it was Justin and Aaron I'm so glad it's this and stuff and that is the highest praise I can get I think letting them own the TV world is pretty smart because they have shown diversity with it I want them to run things like Russo's did plus we could get multiversal

Starting point is 00:35:38 foggy in Secret Wars yeah so Greg's happy because foggy's affecting him that's why they'll bring Charlie Coxon also none of us mentioned the fact that matt left hell's kitchen he's like just doesn't go there anymore yeah it's rare he's there yeah it makes sense with this character now yeah yeah but it's it's so funny because obviously i just came off of it so he quit being daredevil like no in see in defenders he quit being daredevil and then in um what was it season three he quit being matt murdock so him quitting being daredevil again i was like is this going to feel repetitive but no it felt

Starting point is 00:36:12 very organic to the character and I'm not mad that they made that choice because I'm it serves a story where we are now I can't wait to read wait to rewatch Daradovel now with this at the end of it oh yeah because I haven't read watched it since yeah and for me this feels like they killed foggy in season five of the show rather than they killed him in the pilot yeah yeah this is so good yeah all I don't really give a shit about foggy I was just saying that yeah play cape clip it out I don't know what avocados a law means no I doesn't care he's heartless things go bad fast don't take them

Starting point is 00:36:46 fats are you only get this much time with foggy like an avocado yeah it's true before it goes bad do you have a little bit of time for it oxidates and dies yeah it goes away it's how much you got to appreciate your foggies and we're going to let's watch episode two Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Starting point is 00:37:04 ha

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