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Starting point is 00:00:54 a bit But without further ado, we're going to get into this episode. Guys, are you ready? I'm ready. Ready. Let's rock and roll. I don't know why Tiger well enough to know. Could he survive something like that? No, that man's dead.

Starting point is 00:01:15 I mean, hey, look, we're in the Marvel Netflix University. Frank survived a headshot. Medani survived a headshot. It looked like he went all the way through and out. comics his niece takes on the mantle of white tiger and we did have her name dropped in the episode so white tiger may live on i don't think he did yeah i the mantle is now her and she's been the white tiger for years oh okay so well i think she was white tiger in that ultimate spider man car she's been white tiger longer than he was like as far as like runs of issues he

Starting point is 00:01:46 he was uh the first um like spanish hero to hit mainstream like he was in like the luke cage era oh so he's a huge thing as far as like representation in the 70s and she is the white tiger if you ask anyone that reads comics 90s or newer okay so he was a character i never thought we'd see translated i loved that they gave him basically a character that was about the man and then the the side of white tiger would he represents because to be honest them doing like a screen accurate costume really only works in small doses because of how it is very lavish and very you know extravagant but like they made it so the human was the character and we got to mourn um you know the the importance of that character in the comic books and it's also so tragic that the actor passed away

Starting point is 00:02:27 before he got to see his work but it was really I don't know it feels it feels cool to honor that importance of an impactful character but with the niece being mentioned hopefully carry in the mantle yeah and I think that he did a great job as well the actor like even though he he had two episodes but he killed it but I do hope that we get to see that kind of come to fruition in the with the loss of white tiger a new one arises plus Matt seeing that this doesn't work not to the degree he would like for it to to give him a reason to come back as daredevil to honor white tiger tried to do man I like that they just let us sit with this yeah but they kept on that

Starting point is 00:03:12 sound the whole time too it was great man oh wow well all right you guys we just watched episode three of Daredevil Born again. We want to thank the guys over at Preber for cutting down these highlights. You guys can watch them over here on YouTube. All right. Man, what a sad, really strong episode. How are we

Starting point is 00:03:34 feeling? Let's start with Andrew and then we'll... This might have been my favorite episode thus far. It was incredible. I'm feeling two ways. I'm feeling joyful because it was such a great episode. Also sad because I really got invested in the character.

Starting point is 00:03:50 I liked White Tiger a lot in this episode and the way I just love also too Matt is you know we talk about the how two sides of the same coin with Matt and Wilson they're both always playing 4D chess like I

Starting point is 00:04:06 really love the way Matt strategizes as a lawyer the way he's just so nuanced in a courtroom and I was hoping for more of that and obviously we got some of that in the first three seasons but like that that whole entire sequence that we got and just within the episode

Starting point is 00:04:25 that's what I love about Matt Murdoch in the court like I just love seeing him go to work in the courtroom that's like some of my favorite stuff to see and that was great like and I think it was Greg we mentioned it like it really felt a lot in orderesque um you know with Daredevil I know we haven't really watched him in the costume yet but even if we didn't watch him in the costume we were just watching stuff like this like this is really suspenseful this is like it's really moving stuff and I really really enjoyed this episode I thought the pacing was great I thought the stuff between Wilson and Vanessa I really love you know seeing just how vulnerable and again just he's really worried about how you know

Starting point is 00:05:05 possibly losing her the stuff again in the in therapy with Heather is fascinating as well I'm curious to see what's going to come about of that But yeah, no, I got a lot more stuff. I'll let you guys carry on. But, again, I think it was my favorite. So far, my favorite episode. Okay. Greg, how are you doing?

Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah, I would agree with Andrew. I think it's my favorite episode. Yeah, I would say this is my favorite episode of the season so far. It might not be like the most exhilarating one in terms of action or even like directing. But, I mean, on my, on the bias side in me, this feels closest to the original series. out of the three episodes, I would say. And I think the direction of this was really strong. And I like the writing a lot in this one as well.

Starting point is 00:05:59 Like someone in the comments, I don't know who, I was like, I wouldn't say the writing's less than. I think it's just more efficient as how someone put it. And I was like, yeah, I know, I get it. It's like it's tighter. Like what they're setting out to do with this show is, i mean if you look at the original series it's a streaming show where they release it all at once so they're able to really simmer in scene work but they're also telling something that people

Starting point is 00:06:30 are going to watch them one night true so you can really we're this or you have to you have to take a little bit more of like a cinematic approach because you're doing a weekly release uh and you got to keep it a little bit tighter more engaged so i understand um the concept behind it and i feel like with the with the way they've had to to draw their diagram for how they're going to make an episode. I think this is the one that worked like the best. I do agree with everyone here that like the lawyer scenes. I like Punisher season.

Starting point is 00:07:01 And I like Daredevil Season 2 a lot. Out of the three, that tends to be the one that gets a lot of crap. I like that one a lot. And I love the Punisher lawyer stuff as well. And I think the way they handled a trial, some stuff in this season, does seem like it goes a little bit quick. When you look, when you pull back a little bit, well, actually, Charles already done.

Starting point is 00:07:20 It's like, oh, he's already made. Oh, trial's already done. You know, so sometimes it does go a little bit quick, but because this is taking more of what I feel is like a movie approach, they do have to tighten it. They do have to make it move a little bit quicker. And the impact of it, like what we were saying during the credits, I do feel is really resonant to it.

Starting point is 00:07:40 Like, it sucks to see what happened to White Tiger at the very end after being let go. It sucks. it is working as it's going to work as a driving force as a thing to catapult uh whatever this inevitable showdown clash is going to be with kingpin and matt murdock you know and so i like seeing clear of where it's going i think the scene works does work better than it did in the last episode i felt like in the last episode some of the scenes would rely a little too much on like let's use a bunch of camera work and music to tell the audience what to think and feel

Starting point is 00:08:17 during the scene and I feel like there's a lot here that they would bring in the music later or when it was it felt more calculated and appropriate when they would bring in the music so I think it was this is more emotional as as a journey like to have more heart in it and the conversation they do with vigilanteism which is a conversation I'm surprised we're having so late in the game in the MCU but to do it with the street level to open up that door of like here's what Wilson Fisk wants to do and then to really bring it to the courts to have the argument about it It's like, thank you. This is like the debate that we, that Daredevil show does well.

Starting point is 00:08:52 So they brought us the debate. I don't know what happened to the guy who fell on his neck. Like who did they ever. He might be dead. Who would ever explain that to what I? He's got a black guy. Was he the one who fell on his neck? Wait, are you talking about the cops?

Starting point is 00:09:05 No, the cop that we saw fell on his neck. The bald cop, he got his head slammed against the table. So the cop that is, I mean, the guy, the guy who was on a trial, he's the one who slammed his neck. Yeah. Correct. Yes. So if you have a neck brace.

Starting point is 00:09:19 Yeah. It's just a little ridiculous. I got to say that some of the, if you're going to separate your superheroes and stuff and anatomy, it's like bull's eye falling off just because he got like a fixed spine. Don't know how that would, he would survive that. He's just a person. I mean, he's got to be a little enhanced, right? He's got like this like super whatever.

Starting point is 00:09:43 But I don't know how this cop is just like, all right? Yep. It's got a little bit of a bruise. You know, not lipping. So whatever. Letting it go. He didn't kill. So that alleviates everything I was worried about with, if they were dead.

Starting point is 00:09:57 This show really sold me on that. And based off of what I saw online, I feel like the directors and the creators wanted you to wonder whether or not he killed them. Oh, of course. The show does. I feel like if you were abidging this, the show doesn't treat it like that. That's, but the binge model, like it takes a lot of way. And a lot of people were like, this should have been a binge show. I was like, no, it would not be the show.

Starting point is 00:10:16 Yeah. Yeah, but on a weekly basis, I think they want you to kind of wonder if he killed them, but then it shows up and it's like, oh, okay, he's just fine. But I still, I feel like it does improve upon some shortcomings that I was finding some very minor shortcomings I was finding. And overall, I feel like it made for a damn good episode of television. And, yeah, it's like, yeah, Charlie Cox is so good in this. Seriously? boy uh so i i'm so happy this is street level uh this is what i've been waiting for

Starting point is 00:10:48 since 2008 uh i thought and greg just said it like i'm shocked it took this long i thought there'd be something leading up to civil war when they announced civil war in one of their phase announcements that would feel like this i thought you had to that said i thought they did a great job in civil war bringing the stakes and having that conflict but i think this is a great opportunity to have what the sikovia accord started actually fleshed out the registration act can actually now feel like the comic books the beauty of the mc u is that there's a different tier system than like you know most shared universes but i feel like we've only just kind of done the upper stuff like the big powerful stuff there's so much more to explore i can you hear

Starting point is 00:11:26 people all the time wanting a street level spider man it's for stuff like this the reason we love our our red heroes are our spider man our deadpool our daredevil is yeah Deadpool's got all his powers and stuff but he does them in like fairly day-to-day environment like Deadpool of the X-Men is somehow the most relatable because he's like, you know, street level a lot of the time, not all the time, but a lot of the time. He did marry a demon. There's a lot of stuff going on there. But Daredevil, to me, is as interesting as Matt Murdoch as he is as Daredevil. That's one of the reasons he's one of my favorite characters. I'm just as fascinated by Peter Parker as I am Spider-Man. I'm just as fascinated by Miles Morales as I am Spider-Man. Bruce Wayne is Batman. That's when a character is so good, you can really care about both of them. The fact that two-thirds of our episodes so far have not had a suit for Daredevil. fact that we are three episodes in and i haven't rewatched the first two i'm the only one that hasn't i had a chance to rewatch but for me this is as good as the first episode from my one watch of it which is very high praise because if you watched any of the stuff here or on my page i'm ranting and raving of oh my god how is this back nipple chills that's why i wore this shirt i was

Starting point is 00:12:27 i was elated so when i say this is as good as episode one for me that is the highest possible praise because i was part of saved daredevil seven years ago i was freaking out wanting this show back i was starting my career with this show and then there was about uh a three-year window where I was like, okay, but what if it comes back and it ruins my feelings towards it? And then like, as this show got closer, then it was like, well, we scrapped an entire version of it. I was like, oh, this sounds scary.

Starting point is 00:12:51 And like, there was that window of where, what if it comes back and it's not what you dreamed of, will I be able to separate born again from the Netflix show? Like, because I'll always have a mix of those memories. Once I get my eyes on this, will I enjoy it enough that it won't sully the near perfection I feel for Netflix. What I love about what this is doing is going deeper. It is exploring conversations the MCUs needed to explore for 15 years. It is exploring Daredevil in new ways, and that's what you want to do, not just doubling

Starting point is 00:13:21 down and the stuff Netflix did. And yes, I personally like that it feels like a new creative team on a book. A lot of people were saying like, oh, well, don't compare it to Netflix, blah, blah, blah. I think in some ways it's bad too. I think in some ways it's great to, just like in comic books. I will always read a character and think of my favorite runs because that's why I love that character. If you compare it in a way that makes you buried under the weight of expectation, absolutely you're going to suffer for it. But if you compare it in a way that like, oh my God,

Starting point is 00:13:48 what was it like reading that for the first time? What's it like to read this for the first time? Then you get joy twice. So I, as someone who enjoys art evolving and modifying and being for different audiences, I personally am really enjoying that this show doesn't feel just like Netflix. It feels like volume four of a show that had a volume one through three. It feels like a new exploration. So this episode, uh, not only narratively did stuff I've been waiting for forever. also stylistically feels like a different team in a way that I'm really enjoying because you cannot like hope for

Starting point is 00:14:15 I think if it was trying too hard to be the Netflix show it would feel cheap it would feel like why are we just doing the same like what's been seven years I personally I feel like an artist has released a new album with a new sound and a lot of people are adjusting to it poorly according to the internet but I'm loving this experience and I hope people come around

Starting point is 00:14:33 to the tone or whatever it is that they aren't appreciating I hope I all I want is people to enjoy it as much as I am. So I'm hoping that as the show goes on, there's less of the initial, like, ah, different. And it can be enjoyed because I'm loving this.

Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah, no, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you guys have said. I'm really enjoying this new take in this volume four, but we're known and accustomed to experiencing with the other show. And I have to also agree. I think this is, I don't think this is my favorite one. This is my second favorite one behind the second episode. But I think the thing that this show is doing that's really interesting.

Starting point is 00:15:09 is that it's allowing in its pace of only having nine episodes each episode to stand as its own sort of experience with but it's building towards something like you know this entire episode was about the trial the last one was about white tiger having to be on trial in the first place and not having to represent a vigilante and just the entirety of this one felt like a mini movie and I'd say that I said it during the reaction that this entire thing felt like the best courtroom stuff we've gotten from Daredevil because we have scenes where he's actually in the courtroom giving this uh giving these things to to the witnesses and and laying out his case and same thing with the the people that he's going against and you got some

Starting point is 00:15:58 of that in Daredevil but i feel like a lot of the Frank Castle stuff was more foggy and Karen based and Daredevil was the one that introduced that conflict but he wasn't really there to a That was the whole riff of that season, which I still, which I think stands equally with the other two seasons. Now, I like that we are exploring a different side of Matt in relation to these new characters. And I've seen people online be like, oh, why, well, if you're just going to have another lawyer and you're going to have another investigator, why not just keep Carrie, Karen, and Foggy? And to that, I say, sure, that they have the same roles, but they play. in a different way like cherry has the advantage of being a cop which means he has access to things and views it and investigates in a different way than karen would have we don't really know mcduffy too

Starting point is 00:16:51 well other than the fact that you know she's kind of cheeky and funny and has this different sort of dynamic with matt and i'm curious to know more about her but the way that this show is able to have these poignant moments that are based in character but also be concise with its timing i think is really great and really strong. It's something that Penguin was very successful as well. And I feel that though the original series I love, I think you feel in the third season a little bit of a slower pace, a little bit of a slower burn, because you have these conversations that are very rich. But I feel like there's this balance between richness and intrigue in its plot that this show does a really great job of balancing. Because that

Starting point is 00:17:36 entire court case was about the that whole situation of people wanting a vigilante you actually get to see the city have a perspective have a voice through the BB report through this court case and get to see these how the city is responding to all the events going on something that we really didn't have too much of in the daredevil original series and I like that we're able to live in that place now. It's something we've been missing from the MCU. I want to see how people respond to the blip. I want to see how people respond to aliens

Starting point is 00:18:12 coming down from the sky. Or even beyond that or just on the ground, how do they respond to the white tigers saving them in their day to day? How do they feel about Fisk? I love that we're able to do that and watch the temperature raise as the course of the series goes

Starting point is 00:18:28 on. You're just saying that just made me realize we're going to see what the people think of the registration act in real time. And we're also going to see what the people think Punisher coming back in real time. Yeah, because I'm really excited for that. Yeah, and the cops were now getting more emboldened with the fact that they're I mean, that's a cop wearing a punisher best. Yeah, you know, are intimidating life.

Starting point is 00:18:47 Do you think it was that cop? I mean, it doesn't really matter who was it. Yeah. But to really quickly respond to you because I agreed with all your points. You know what Karen has that a cherry doesn't have? She's got heels. Oh, I know you understood that. But yeah, no, I agree with everything.

Starting point is 00:19:04 you just said, and I think that's why this was my favorite courtroom thing, because in season two, I loved all that stuff, but you made a great point. We got to see Foggy stretch out his legs in terms of, with the courtroom stuff, because Matt was so busy with all the electric stuff, he wasn't able to be there, which obviously

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Starting point is 00:21:33 So while Matt Murdoch lawyer isn't Daredevil, it's interesting to see him as just a lawyer with a new team. Like there's a different sense of like, you know, when you move into a new house or like when you make a big life change and you have a different circle of people, there's a different energy to you. And I'm getting that from Charlie Cox as just Matt Murdoch lawyer and how he's going to be relating to the courtroom and stuff.

Starting point is 00:21:53 So as much as I miss them and I do, there is a different strength in the visual of a different team behind the desk. Yeah, I hardly agree. And also to your point, too, you're saying you want to see also the, how everyone reacts to the consequences of events. I thought we saw a little bit of that, too, in season one, because the battle in New York from the Avengers, we saw that Wilson Fiske was taking advantage of all the real estate in New York from all that. So we did get a little bit of a taste of that. You hear about it, but you don't see it. No, no, you don't see it.

Starting point is 00:22:23 I agree with it. I said we got a little bit of a taste of that. So I agree, but now we're actually getting to see it here in real time. And also, I liked actually seeing the visual narration of some of the cops. Like, he was naming some of the cops. And then we got to see the visceral reaction from some of them. This guy actually saved my life. I would not be here standing opposed to this man if he had not saved my life.

Starting point is 00:22:43 I actually thought that really hit me hard in that moment. Also, I was thinking, too, when those cops were all seeing there, I know there's a lot of cops on duty, but there's also a lot of cops sitting there. There's a lot of crime happening because they're all sitting in the courtroom. Just saying. Just saying. The moments in Netflix that I love is when it feels real. but like surreal and this episode felt like the the elements of Netflix's show that I was like

Starting point is 00:23:05 oh man what if the Marvel universe was real that's what I always got out of the Netflix stuff even more than the MCU and this feels like a blend of of the MCU and that Netflix element in a really special way and that's that's what I wanted this show to be is is kind of a pathway between those worlds and so far I'm in no yeah super and Greg you have more thoughts he's been cooking over there no no I don't I don't I I think we haven't talked about Wilson and Vanessa. What they're doing with them, I have seen some stuff online.

Starting point is 00:23:39 I don't know we can bring up online. It's just, you know, that's what we do. We're online, we're an online company. So we see the online responses, you know. People aren't watching this? Whether it be YouTube comments or Twitter, there's, you know, there's online responses, right? And I know there's even online responses to what I'm saying,

Starting point is 00:23:57 being like, stop listening to the internet. as internet tells me to stop listening to internet. But that's the reality. I've seen some people talk about the Wilson and Vanessa's stuff. And that challenge has been one of my favorite things that they're doing here because it is the most unexpected thing to me that they would possibly introduce a riff between them. One where it's like, is this guy going to kill his wife? Because she owns it.

Starting point is 00:24:28 Like, he literally said to her, like, don't turn, something like, don't turn to someone like, don't turn to someone like, I can't literally quote it. Don't turn into someone I can't trust her or something like that is a threat that he just laid. And she adjusted accordingly. Like, I love her body language to the threat. And at the end of the day, while he's been gone, she's been running Kingpin Empire. And now he shows up late in the game to be like, well, let me tell you how to run this house. And neither of them were wearing white in this episode.

Starting point is 00:24:55 Neither of them wearing white. Neither of them were Kingpin in this episode. She was in the white suit in that first episode. It was so striking. Yes. So I love what they're doing with them like have the conversation they're having before the therapist walks in. It's a conversation they should be having with the therapist, but they can't have that conversation. And I love that.

Starting point is 00:25:12 I do. Yeah. You know? So I think it's a really strong element that challenges the romanticism that is leveled with, you know, with Wilson. It's like Wilson and Vanessa. Like that is, they're known as like the couple that just has the undying love. and support for each other and to completely challenge that in a way where I don't know where it's going to land between them but I like what they're doing here because they never really got a chance

Starting point is 00:25:38 to be husband and wife the second they got married he was shipped off the prison somehow Wilson got out of prison I don't know how he got out of prison but I don't know this doesn't sound like he spent much time with his wife after he got out of prison he just like I'm going to start up this uh what were the truck the sweatshuster bro the track two mafia track sue mafia yeah He attracts him off the gang, and then he was like, I'm going to go reconnect with my niece or whatever she is to me. So, yeah, like having that quality, I think is really strong. But also the mastermind plan, because the big thing introduced in episode two,

Starting point is 00:26:16 the cops will not back Wilson Fisk. That's the big thing. And now he can use this to get on the cops. To get the cops on his side. Because we introduced the idea of vigilante versus cop, like you said. And I think wearing the Punisher outfit, as we're talking, is intentional to make it look like the Punisher murder. A vigilante killed another vigilante. Now it's...

Starting point is 00:26:38 Yeah, not cult of Punisher, but also we shouldn't celebrate a vigilante who killed a cop. Right. And so this is a clever plan from him. So I love that it ends on the court case and they just do that pullback shot to show he's watching. You're like, oh, shit. I love characters and movies and shows. they're watching TV. There's always something going down that's badass.

Starting point is 00:27:00 Whenever you think the Christian Bale, when he's watching Heath Ledger with the, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Think Chris Evans in Civil War when they're watching the TV. Like, I love it. And I thought that was a really great use of it. So I think what they're building up and setting up for Kingpin and Matt and Kingpin and Vanessa

Starting point is 00:27:16 is truly compelling stuff. And then now we got Mews to come into the Fold and Summit. Oh, I think it was the guy in episode two who wanted the therapy. I also love that Muse in the comics has a, whole dynamic about like the arts and how he perceives the city and making beauty out of horrible things and the muse of the city is also very similar to Fisk and Murdoch like the way that Wilson Fisk sees the city as his and Matt Murdoch sees the city as his is what I love about the first three seasons. Mews is interesting because he sees all of this trauma as like an art

Starting point is 00:27:48 inspiration but the city feels like his as well so bringing in a third party that's even crazier than the two of them and doing it seemingly in a way that relates to the to the girl that Matt is seeing one I doubt she makes it through the season but two is gonna be really interesting to see a dynamic of like what brings Matt back into the fold and how Muse manipulates all of this

Starting point is 00:28:07 yeah do we know I don't obviously don't want to know his name but do we know his identity in the comics muse it gets discovered like it isn't like right away but like it's it's you know Robert Downey Jr. Yeah he's just gonna be everyone and never see you yeah but Greg you met

Starting point is 00:28:25 I think Greg you mentioned too that things kind of unfold rather quickly like Wilson Fis becomes the mayor pretty quickly. The trial happens pretty quickly in the episode. I remember to Wilson Fisk, I think it was last episode two, where he mentioned that Bibi Eurek

Starting point is 00:28:40 she should not be underestimated and we will use that. That literally comes back right away in this episode. So I do like that things come back really quickly. I think that also will is going to be his undoing because if she is half the reporter, her uncle was, like she's going to figure things out and

Starting point is 00:28:56 And he said it in the Lions Day. Yeah, exactly. And I'm glad they answered to what happened to her cell phone. Also, you said something in the reaction. You said that Cherry was more, more Yurik. Can you, like, elaborate on that? So the way Cherry is doing the investigative reporting felt like that first season of Yurik where he was willing to push boundaries that, like, Matt wasn't.

Starting point is 00:29:15 Like, to me, Yurik was always, like, a reporter that would do anything. He had his code of ethics just like Matt did. And, like, but he was still willing to do a little bit more than Matt because Matt was always like, uh, Jesus boy. So to me, Cherry, like, bringing drugs and, like, you know, it felt more investing in a reporter to me than cop. And the way he was playing it out felt like if, if Uric hadn't died in season one, I could see that being what Yuri was doing in the storyline. Do you know what I mean? Like when I was seeing that character make his moves, now that it's also blending the comic books.

Starting point is 00:29:46 Because in the comic books, Yurik is a huge, like, he's one of the biggest characters at the Daily Bugle. Like, Yurik is like, Uric is, it's like Jonah James. Robinson, Robbie Robertson, Urick, and in Ultimate Spider-Man, regular Spider-Man Daredevil, like all of the MCU, if Uric pops up, you're like, it's a big deal. So, like, I don't know if I'm thinking of just Yurik from the Daredevil show or if I'm blending on my head, but when I see the actions he's making, my brain is thinking of the comic character. And I'm like, that's what I would cast him as.

Starting point is 00:30:14 So that was the thought. But they're going to bring back Joe Pantaneling. Yeah, Joey Pants. Joey Pants from the Ben Affleck. To clarify, even though I know there's already people typing. away because you're dumb asses when we say it moves quickly the other caveat the other aspect to it moving quickly of why it actually works moving quickly is because of the thing we kept pointing out which is there's inspiration from nolan in the terms of the editing and the music

Starting point is 00:30:45 and the overall camera work nolan's movies span a lot of time nolan's movies and it's because of the way he knows how to do that and get away with it. it because and successfully and immersively because of the way those those movies are captured for sure and i think taking inspiration from nolan for direction which i'd be so surprised if they didn't no it's the marvel batman yeah so it did feel no one else with this show i think when they are spanning quickly it doesn't feel like they're rushing yeah like when he became mayor at the end of the first episode i wasn't like i know you said in the review that you thought it would span the season and And I was like, oh, yeah, I did think it too, but it didn't bother me when it happened.

Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah, it wasn't a lot. And same thing with the trial. I was like, I didn't notice it. It was like, oh, we did a whole trial in one episode until we were talking about it. Yeah. But it works because of how the show is at, because of the new way these creatives are approaching how to capture this story, it's working. Yeah. And so.

Starting point is 00:31:48 Yeah. And I think we've become accustomed to that slower pace from the original series. For them to change it up is refreshing. I don't mind it at all. Also, seven years later, societally, we just have no attention to Spain. Yeah, it's true.

Starting point is 00:31:59 It's true. Yeah, dude. True. I also think this episode did a great job of being very suspenseful because my heart was racing quite a few times. When they were transferring Nikki Torres, I believe his name is,

Starting point is 00:32:12 like I thought, I mean, just, I mean, we had just rewatch season three with Ray and a demon. I'm glad you guys said they've learned from that. Just that whole sequence.

Starting point is 00:32:19 Also, too, it wasn't predictable. Like, you just mentioned you didn't expect him to be mayor right away. so that worked in its favor. And then also, too, I really had no idea which way the case was going. I love that. Because the DA, he made a great argument as well.

Starting point is 00:32:32 I'm like, I love writing like that when I'm like, holy crap, there is, Matt Murdoch doesn't just have good adversaries when he's Daredevil. He's got good adversaries when he's a lawyer. This is the writing I love. I gravitate towards this shit. I thought this was the best ridden one of the three for sure. I'm really excited for four now. Yes.

Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah, I want to touch a little bit on the Vanessa stuff before we wrap it up. Yeah, I also thought that stuff was great Because it's interesting The last show ended with Vanessa Finally coming into the fold Her being the reason Fis got taken down In the first place Because she ordered the murder of Raina Dime

Starting point is 00:33:06 Right And now we're in a position where She's grown resentful for Fisk for leaving Because he's the man who put her in the position In the first place She's now loving the power And he's trying to take it away from her Even though if he's the person who put her there

Starting point is 00:33:19 In the first place And I love the fact that She now feels resentful not only for that, but because he feels like he's punishing her for cheating. And it's just all sorts of sad, man. And I'm finding it interesting that Wilson Fisk, he feels like the same Wilson Fist from the previous show, but with a little bit more patience,

Starting point is 00:33:43 a little bit more maturity. I kind of texted each of you individually how that experience from Echo really messed with his head because she said, oh, you healed me, Maya. Or at least tried to. And it seems like ultimately that event led to where he is now causing that riff and their relationship. And I'm curious to see how it plays into what's going on.

Starting point is 00:34:06 Yeah. And last thing for me, I'm glad you texted me that because I will be honest. I hadn't watched Echo. So I was a little confused by, and I know we went to jail at the end of season three, but still I was like, but why is he acting like this right now? And then when he sent me that says like, okay, this makes a lot more sense. Thank you very much for sending me that. So, yeah.

Starting point is 00:34:24 Shared universe. Yes. Sometimes there's little pieces. Yes, for sure. Yeah. Well, all right, guys. That's going to be it for episode three for us. We had a great time.

Starting point is 00:34:33 We loved it. And we look forward to see you guys in the next one. Duceus. Fleb. Dore. Dude, I've been using my heightened senses. My heightened daredevil senses. And I can tell a lot about you.

Starting point is 00:34:49 I can tell as I'm talking about you right now, heartbeat is moving fast do do do do do do oh are you lying no he's just getting turned on by the fact that i've said his name ooh as i zero in more i can smell the sweat exuding from your pores oh yeah this guy's ready for some hot sweaty action oh i can hear the breath every little heavier bray he's trying to control he's not trying to let it he's like breathe through your knows breathe through your nose but he can't because he knows is too good to be true and then as i get closer i realize the man's having a heart attack and i totally mistook this because i need i'm gonna be a little narcissistic sometimes and i really thought that it's happened to me more than once

Starting point is 00:35:42 where someone is having some type of fatal condition and i i'm taking it as like please i'm not in the mood right now. I'm taken. And I thought that's what was happening here. Clearly I was wrong. And I'm sorry. I think I've spent way too much time explaining this because I don't want to look like the bad guy. And now I'm seeing you're not breathing at all. My dare devil skills are picking up that your lifeline is going down quite a bit. And I'm still explaining this to you because I'm, I think some people might be around. And in case they can hear, I want them to know I'm taking accountability and that I've realized the errors on my way. I'm sure it would just a good like like slam to the chest I can uh I can like you

Starting point is 00:36:25 like it back to life right let's go from shed I I just I broke his chest shattered your sternum I am so sorry I've made it extremely worse that's what the devil would do as you walk to the kitchen of hell you get beaten to a pulp You brought this on yourself. Yeah, Flav.

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