The Reel Rejects - DAREDEVIL BORN AGAIN Episode 7 Breakdown & Review

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:14 August 1st. This week's videos are sponsored by Price Picks, the easy-to-use fantasy sports betting app. More on them in just a bit. That is your introduction. This is your Daredevil Born Again episode 7 in 3, 2. one getting it we just watched episode seven of daredevil born again uh i'm going to start with gregg because you've got notes and i want to know it'll help me decipher my conflicting feelings gregg what you think of this episode i think that the immediacy i think a lot of our
Starting point is 00:00:52 complaints that we've had have definitely some like sometimes there's it's you can't really escape it at a certain point with some choices that they are continuously following through on due to if I backtrack a tiny bit there is the aspect that a lot of us are aware of where they were shooting this and they had to get this show done then they had to reshoot it and rewrite it and so you can feel some of these seams sort of being woven together and of course there's a lot of people who really love it but we're not here to talk about other people's perspectives we're here to share our point of views. And so my point of view, personally, is that there are aspects that needed more building up into, you know, particularly with the conflict that I run
Starting point is 00:01:38 into with this show is that in the immediacy, I'm having fun and I am enjoying the show. And there's a lot that I consistently find, like, gripping, engaging. And a lot of the big things that I feel emblematic of conflict versus enjoyment and having the both mesh together is in the therapy sessions during this specific episode everything they do with muse and that scene it's like yes is it creepy is it effective it's unnerving do you worry the therapist what girlfriend whose name i keep forgetting is going to heather do you worry heather will die is there a cool action moment is there some cool violence yes to all of the above simultaneously i think it would have been more impactful if we had time to watch some therapy sessions with them beforehand build up not just muse but build up
Starting point is 00:02:30 this personality of this guy instead of just having him have one episode prior and then to kill him off on top of that with such a short-lived time here does feel like ah there's some there's some missing impact to all of this it's like the level of percentage of impact. It's like at 60 to 70 when it could be at 100 and you can't help but feel a bit of that missing piece of the pie or I'm not going to say you, I can't help but feel that missing piece of the pie. I mean, that being said, it's like you got to just accept what it is that's being given to you and what's being given ultimately is a fun experience and is at times a very effective one with some compelling moments. But I think that is like my main thesis before we hop
Starting point is 00:03:14 around through a lot of different conversations because, yeah, I'm not going to lie, I enjoyed it, and there are some really cool things, and there's some really fun things, and the reactions to the big stuff that were of enjoyment were genuine, and then there's other stuff that, like I just said. So, yeah, that's just my small thing. A lot more to talk about. Andrew? First of all, as the reference guy here, I love those shots that reminded me because my fellow geek chick and I are unabashedly big fans of the Ben Affleck Daredevil film, especially the director's cut. Not the theatrical cut. Let me clarify. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Director's cut. Not the theatrical cut. The director's cut. Yes, I agree with you. Coolio for life. Yes. Love Coolio, even if he's in Batman and Robin. But yes. No, I agree. The shower shot and the Heather stay with me. We remember with Jennifer Gardner, her lecture stay with me. But, yeah, getting to Greg's point, I echo all the sentiments. I was going to say that as well. I would have liked a few more therapy sessions. Like, get that buildup. like if we remember again this isn't to get into a comparison thing uh to the netflix show but this is canon so i'm going to sorry uh you know with the first uh three seasons of that show you got the the villains of of each season we don't get like literally i like this actor who's
Starting point is 00:04:29 playing bastion was that his name i use yeah i like i like this actor who's playing him he's very creeping and unnerving as greg would say and i would have liked to get more than two scenes we got him at the book signing and we got him in the therapy session i want more than that when we got the first three scenes of netflix when you have all these villains uh the villains of each season um we got more than one or two scenes and a couple of other action sequences with daredevil we got a whole season of that and i get it we have less time than that here understandable and i understand what gregg also said in terms of the reshooting i i get all that but it just felt too rushed for me again, in the moment, I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:05:10 It was entertaining. It was creepy. I like the shifting of tones there from the horror to the action. Awesome stuff. But at the same point, too, I felt like I wanted more as well. So I was definitely happy and sad to us get conflicting. So, yeah, I would say, like, that's how I felt in regards to that. In regards to Vincent Dinoffrio, this was the most kingpin he felt. And I think we got that back from the last episode.
Starting point is 00:05:37 where he kind of gave Adam the axe and he took care of him. And finally, he was reborn. And I like what Koi said earlier, like, or was in, I forgot which one he said that he was kind of, he's been getting reborn as well throughout the season, him and Matt. But I like that, that they continuously keep editing and visually paralleling as they're both being reborn again. I also will say, too, again. I like the whole face-off moment.
Starting point is 00:06:03 It was, it was cute in the moment, but it was very, like, convenient as well, that the episode and the moment that he does it it's the day he does that it came in in handy so i i know that's a it's a movie tv show trope that's something that comes in handy but you know it was cute though so i i guess i'll let that one pass but very conveniently timed on matt's part that he the day he did that he was able to get the sketch of so i found that uh amusing but it was also because it was adorable in the moment i guess i was willing to let that one go but yeah again but the action sequence in itself that was awesome versus him in music
Starting point is 00:06:40 just again I'm sad because it's more than that at the season it was great so I guess yeah I'll just have to live with great in the moment but wanted more of that but also too I got to say you know getting back to DeNafrio there are some moments too where he's
Starting point is 00:06:56 not actually verbally saying anything you can read his body language and just look at his emoting the dude is so damn good I just you can tell what he's thinking but I am very curious too was what you guys are thinking as well, and you as well, the audience of, like, did Vanessa send Luca there to take out Wilson? Did she know that Luca was going to get killed in that moment? Like, I'm guessing she might have done it to kill. I don't know. Like, I'm really, like, at a loss right now,
Starting point is 00:07:23 which is good. I like not being able to predict. I'm curious what you guys think. But, yeah. Aaron? Put this back down. You know, before I said a few times, I've done the episode that I had feelings as we were all watching it. Now, before getting to those feelings that I was feeling in the moment when I was feeling them, I would like to talk about some positives. First off, I will say the costume looks great in the daylight, which I'm happy. You know, we always want great costumes, whether they're set photos that leak we don't like, or in the show itself, which is great.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I think Vincent Nafir continues to be great. I think Vanessa is a compelling character. I like the energy and the interplay between his supporting cast, and I really like the niece of White Tiger and, you know, with the potential and setup that comes with her. That being said, you know, this show feels like the difference between a streaming series and a television series, and this episode for me was the most that felt like a television series. This one was, even though there was F-bombs, this felt the most episodic in the sense of, like, the conflict of muse and how they handled the therapy stuff felt like something you would see in an arrow show. Do you mean like a network television is what you mean? That's what I meant. Network versus streaming.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah. This one felt the most network TV to me. And the reason why I say that is because it was only on the last season of the last iteration of Daredevil we saw, a psychopath have a heavy part. of their story involve a therapist, right? And he listened to tapes and talked about the therapy sessions and then had all of that stuff building, ramping tension for this guy's arc. And it felt like a disservice in the moment, though it was enjoyable. It also, for me, didn't feel as authentic or earned.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And as we're watching it, I was also thinking, was their intention to have this be a reveal that this was mused because it felt like a situation where the creators of the show didn't expect the audience to catch on quickly, so they expected it to be like a twist or reveal.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I don't know if you guys got that feeling from it as well. But I was like, yeah, it seemed like it was pretty obvious. And it goes back to that feeling of what the show whenever was saying, like oh yeah, we're not going to do all that that slow talking about life stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:03 leading into we're just going to get into the drama but you then you have scenes like uh like with bibi and with um james with a michael gandolphini and it's it's those type of relationships those type of interactions i would have liked to see more fleshed out you know because we don't really know bbby that well the fact that she's related to ben yurick and is this reporter and has a bbby report that's a character i'm interested in but the show doesn't seem to be interested in her and we're this late into the season and then for me i'm starting to get this feeling like this is a what's the word I'm looking for? A transitional season, like a set-up season before we return to the status quo.
Starting point is 00:10:41 That being said, that journey has been entertaining. The writing has not been bad, but I feel like it's been lacking in its impact. Kind of how Greg was saying, because we don't have the time to develop or flesh out the things that are interesting. The pieces that we're witnessing are ones of intrigue. And I'm starting to wonder how much of my personal enjoyment of the show is hinged off. of the good faith that the original one had established to kind of logic my way into what we're seeing today
Starting point is 00:11:10 versus how much the show itself is doing to establish the things on their own. So yeah, that's kind of where I feel right now. And with that, I'm going to hand it with Coy. So the show's only got two episodes left. I'm very aware that I feel like this needed to be at least 12. I'm a long season guy. Like I like, you know, when I was a young man, when I was a boy,
Starting point is 00:11:33 Shows were 22 episodes. Yeah, like the shows, you know, ran. And if not, 22 episodes, at least the 12 or 13 at an hour. This 40 minutes really affected my experience. And overall, I think the solutions are all pretty easy, which is actually worse for me in my overall experience. Because when you see the solution and it's like, it's right there. Like, we have all these things that could have been even better.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Just having a few scenes of him in therapy mirroring Kingpins, mirroring the relationship with Charlie Cox. sprinkled somewhere in there after the book moment. Just the buildup of therapy would have allowed the twist if they'd wanted to make it a twist to feel like something more. It would have allowed the tension of her knowing that or not
Starting point is 00:12:15 as the mask and all those things. Like there were so many parallels that were built in where, you know, she's dating someone that wears a mask, writing a book about a mask type concept and we're saying like that means she must know. It would have been cool to undermine that with well, she didn't know she was
Starting point is 00:12:31 therapeutizing a serial killer that also wear a mask. It could have given her some like deniability of like she just doesn't see that way of people. It would have given the relationship with Matt some more strength. That would have given the muse angle some more weight. It would have given all these things. So just adding in more of that actor in therapy would have done
Starting point is 00:12:47 that. Adding muse in a mine huntery sort of way earlier. We got that one scene in episode three, I think it was. And then, you know, the actual muse debut in I think four or five. No, it was four and then we had the bank episode. And then six.
Starting point is 00:13:03 we got actual Muse. So we didn't really get any of the groundwork of the 60 people. It was just like the big establishment of 60 Zero Killer. You could have planted Muse as an element of an undercurrent, and you could have planted the unmasked Muse as an element that would have slowed things down in the right way. And I think the fights would have felt more impactful because they're cool. They're very cool.
Starting point is 00:13:29 But Muse in the comics is only in nine issues. He gets killed in the comics, too. Um, Muse is currently, uh, an undead escapee from hell fighting, uh, Electra who's Daredevil is crazy over there. But like the impact of Muse and nine issues is very strong. He got adapted into a thing like 10 years after his debut and is only in those nine issues. That means there's a connection to the character. I wish we could have felt that connection on the screen. Because I agree with what all three of you've said, I'm really enjoying my time in this show.
Starting point is 00:14:00 But I don't know if it's because I love the character, because I love the Netflix, because like all those things and this was the first episode where I was aware that I was thinking about the comic the Netflix show and not this take I kept thinking about other takes and um all the ingredients are there it's just baked at the wrong temperature all right I've been told we're in the thick of basketball season MLB is heating up and there's no shortage of games to track so if you've ever wanted a smarter more fun way to stay locked in you've got to check out prize picks it's America's number one daily fantasy sports app And it's how this household keeps things exciting beyond just watching.
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Starting point is 00:15:23 Yep, $50 instantly, even if you don't win. So if you're looking to make every game a little bit more thrilling, give prize picks a shot. It's fun. It's skill-based. keeps you in the action down the app today use code rejects you get $50 instantly after playing your first $5 light up prize picks run your game I would agree yeah I would I really I fully agree I think earlier Aaron we were saying about network TV it's a good parallel because I've seen every season of Arrow and there are some awful seasons of Arrow but I still enjoy it every time
Starting point is 00:15:58 because I'm happy to be here to watch Daredevil I'm happy to be here to watch Kingpin I'm happy they're back. I'm happy there's already a season two happening. I'm happy Gettie images already released in your series of season. Not let us have that moment to ourselves. Thanks, sir. Yeah. I'm happy all that happened. And I'm excited for season two because I feel like it'll be a much more fine-tuned, considered they don't have that overhaul to deal with. And there's like several other points, I think, that are important to touch on. Because when you're doing the reaction, it can be challenging during the reaction time to, there's I think there's kind of a feeling of
Starting point is 00:16:34 I need time to explain a criticism and I don't really have that time to explain the criticism so I went away for the review so when we're doing the review we're explaining a lot of criticism then we sound like we're super freaking negative but we actually enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:16:45 All three of my minutes I felt were negative but I had fun. Yeah right so that's that tends to happen when you're like okay now's the time to clarify this and with some positives but additionally some other things that I do find a little bit negative because like what you were saying Aaron
Starting point is 00:16:58 with these other interactions it's really easy to chalk up like the investigate PI they work with and Matt and then the other lawyer who Matt is partners with the other characters those scenes kind of feel like empty calories
Starting point is 00:17:12 to me when you know in the Netflix show those scenes would have had impact even though you don't show up for them they still become defining characters I feel like where the show has found strength in that is with the Michael Gandalfini character surprisingly he is a character who I think steals the scene
Starting point is 00:17:28 whenever he's there he really has he's not like Coena had a long conversation the other day about Nepo children. And I think he's another great example of like, just because he's the son of a great actor doesn't mean he is not doing a great job. And he is doing an amazing job. And he totally elevates that role and gets the spotlight. I do really think where they have really zeroed in on fleshing out something strong is the idea of how Daredevil and Kingpin both feed one another. when it comes to their resurrection, the respective resurrections, and to who they are.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Because I love that this felt the most like Kingpin. I like that he's manipulating, like, whatever Kingpin is being a jerk, and he's, you know, so confident in the crimes that are taking place and so confident when he's, like, in front of them, the media and delighting in this tactic, it's like, oh, I hate it, but I love it. I love that he wants Darendelvo for himself. Yes, yes, that's what I mean. They feed each other. Yeah. Then when I think about it in the response side during this, this, this is. discussion. There was all this buildup to Matt becoming daredevil. And I don't feel like we
Starting point is 00:18:37 really sit with him. Like, what is that effect happening to Matt after he has now dawned the suit? After he's now gone out there and fighting, we see these glimmers and some of these expressions that he's having. We're not really getting this, a true moment to simmer in that psychological aspect that has made. That is why we loved the original series so much. was we we get to live in that. And I think there's aspects of this where it's there. It's like fast food, but it's not a qualitative burger. You know, like there are times where, yeah, there's an expression.
Starting point is 00:19:16 It looks a little bit sad in the shower right now. Okay. He's kind of brushing it off. He's having a bit of a tense conversation with his girlfriend. Okay. And we've already expressed our complaints about not really getting much of that relationship. And now he's at the I love you point with this woman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:31 And it, sorry, I got so excited. You just had a shot. No, I had a, when you, as you were speaking that, it's almost kind of funny that the show is treating Matt with this sort of avoidant attitude, how he has towards Heather. But that's how they're treating that with the audience as well, because we don't know what Matt is feeling.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Also, the fact that we don't have a clear temple, We don't have a church or a priest for Matt to have these sort of moments with to get his insight. That's the purpose those things served within those original series because we had an outlet for Matt to express himself as a person who is so isolated, who is so insular. But without that POV into his head, it makes it harder for us to, not to root for him because we like him inherently, but to ignite our empathy for putting us in his head and in his shoes. And I feel like they kind of missed the point of that. And it's wild to me. We're now, what, seven episodes into a Daredevil series. We've not once addressed his Catholicism in a major way.
Starting point is 00:20:45 and it's such a big part of that dude so it's just it's kind of baffling so that was the main thing I wanted to say I'm really enjoying the actual act of watching the show and I think we've all said that it is really interesting how it is a different tone and every other episode I really enjoyed that
Starting point is 00:21:01 as a strength I kept saying like it's a volume four and I like volume one through three of different creative team and it feels like a comic this was the first one where I was aware that okay we're into the third act we've only got two episodes left I think I'm now concerned as we enter the final stretch that I'm going to feel like oh no it wasn't what I thought it was like I kept I kept waiting for like this big impact
Starting point is 00:21:26 with news and now that he's dead I'm like okay he was the means to an end for using a mask it was how Kingpin can control this narrative and like I see all the pieces but now that there's been I think this was the first big moment that I wanted to feel more weight that it did not happen and now it's done I'm like oh no it felt extremely this this one to me more than any of the other episodes felt extremely rushed yeah yeah and it missed that opportunity kind of you said in the beginning to allow us to flesh out to get to the point where when he's gone you're like whoa instead i was like that's well yeah Heather and i and i want to care about all these relationships so i don't know this this episode's like a still a b minus for me still
Starting point is 00:22:02 had a great time watching it but that's probably the lowest rating i've given the show yet and i'm worried that eight nine are going to likewise feel hurried and that's going to make the rest of the first six feel less. I'm worried about retroactively this season if it has this crazy to the finish line like I feel that it's gonna. There's one more thing I wanted to bring up before I do Andrew I know you haven't really spoken in a while there anything else
Starting point is 00:22:25 you want to bring up. Well I was just going to say it was kind of telling as well like just back on the point like in Heather and Matt when he's like I love you and we all reacted the same way like whoa we're at the I love you stage already it's because we haven't spent time with that relationship and like just for instance when Matt was with
Starting point is 00:22:41 Electra when Matt was with Karen, we fleshed out those relationships. And again, this isn't a comparison. I'm just making a point here. If you flesh out those scenes, you flesh out those relationships, we're not going to have those reactions. We're going to be like, hell yeah. And again, you've got to earn it.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah, if you earn it, we're going to have that. Oh, yeah, hell yeah. We love Heather. We love them together. This is great. So it's just, you know, these are, I feel like these are more constructive criticisms than, you know, more so than hateful things that we were saying. So, yeah, I just, and same thing.
Starting point is 00:23:12 too. I think her name's Kristen, the woman he works with at the law office, but again, we're not spending time with these other characters, whereas we spent a lot of time with Foggy and Karen also too on a professional level, as well as a personal level. So, I just would like to spend more time with a lot of these
Starting point is 00:23:29 other characters. I think everything, I think the biggest thing is just right. Yeah, I agree. And to me, I really liked Vanessa a lot in this episode. I like I like what they're doing with her of this is so such a challenge and contradiction to who she was prior to this season
Starting point is 00:23:50 in a way that I feel again it is an aspect that I wish was more lived in more explored however when they do take the time to have a scene about it I find the scenes particularly rewarding the whole moment with the villain I forget I'm so bad when she's at the dock or the bridge Luca, when she's with Luca, and Luca is essentially saying, I know you ain't happy about your husband being back. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And the way they're toying with this with the audience is one of the things I think they're actually, for the most part, succeeding at because we're all here debating. Did Wilson know? Did she let Wilson know? And this was part of the setup. Was this the way that they capture it as part of a mislellan? lead to make us think that she's going against her husband in some way. There's these earlier lines that sound like Kingpin, is Kingpin going to kill his wife?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Things like that to mess with the audience's perspective on a situation where you thought that they were going to be an infinite constant in terms of their love, I feel like they've actually done a really good job whenever you check in with Vanessa and actually adding layers to her beyond the awesome criminal girlfriend, you know? Like, I love their relationship a lot, and that's what I'm trying to get at. I love the relationship a lot in the previous seasons. I find it more interesting. I find I love the love they have.
Starting point is 00:25:24 This is the first time as an individual. I find Vanessa actually interesting because of that inner conflict. Her separate arc is as interesting as their arc together. Yeah, they all have an inner conflict, and I think every actor here brings their inner conflict of which road they go down, they excel at bringing that together. And I think for a lot of things, even when we're talking about Matt Murdoch
Starting point is 00:25:44 and what's missing, I think Charlie Cox is aware, and I think he still brings that to the performance in spite of limited writing and screen time dedicated to that. He's speed running his emotions. Yes. Sure. Like we're
Starting point is 00:26:00 going through everything pretty good. And I like some of the choices behind the scenes, like the lighting and like those things. But again, so fast. So like I really wish we just, I don't know, 12 episodes are 13 an hour episodes, getting to know the courtroom people if they're not going to be foggy and Karen, getting to know Cole North
Starting point is 00:26:16 who's important in the comics and they're using them the opposite way here and that I hope would be explained. Like I do feel like the show was originally going to be I think like 20 episodes or 18 episodes and it was going to be like more procedural and now it's nine and there's a part two so I'm wondering how much of that is
Starting point is 00:26:32 a part one of two. Are we going to end on a cliffhanger? But either way, I'm hoping we get enough time with the characters in the first half to feel like we care about whatever the finale is of this part of the story that is obviously going to be it's called born again i imagine part one ends with a full culmination of kingpin and daredevil like fully formed at odds at each other for the first time because they're very consciously haven't had them they've had matt and wilson together they've had daredevil being excited kingpin getting excited kingpin not wanting anyone take on daredevil but himself i think it's going to be a two-part or final episode where they're finally at
Starting point is 00:27:06 but then it might be like tune in next year yeah also i want to say i really wish marketing and the creative team would do something to be more careful about how the information they decide to show through their images because this whole show me and gregg called real rejects that comes up uh about once a week uh yeah because like we've all seen the trailer for daredevil right yeah yeah and right when you said that i was like why is there and saying that and then an image that i won't say amongst the group right now is it is it oh is it is no no no it's okay don't even know it's weird because like we've all seen it but it's for the show but it's good to it's good to forget i haven't put in context so i didn't know on to know again it's
Starting point is 00:27:45 it's good to forget and and and you and i will talk yeah privately away from them you get to that way from that way we don't spoil yeah i want to enjoy it but i i why when you said that suddenly i got an image from the trailer that i'm like wait a minute i think i know it's going to happen i was like why do they put that in the trailer knowing the story i'm going to tell there should be a rule of no third act okay coy you leave and you air I will say, I think Andrew now. That's going to be it for my contribution. Do you know what we're talking about?
Starting point is 00:28:13 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait to be leaving. No, Carl, I'm joking, Corey. We're just kidding, we're kidding, we're going to do it. I wanted to, I wanted, last thing I want to say, I know we all have to get out of your real plans that we have to attend to. It was halfway out the door. I was serious. Last thing, promise.
Starting point is 00:28:33 The fight scenes in this show, I feel like I'm, probably a little more in the minority than you guys. I'm not as big of a fan of the way the fights are. I like the... I like them. I do. Like, I like them. I do think they're not as directed well as the previous one. Oh, I like, don't love... It's how I feel
Starting point is 00:28:50 about the show overall is like, I would rather have this than nothing. I'm very happy to have more Daredevil. I'm excited to see some brutal fights. It's still a what a burger, not a gourmet meal. It's still, you know what I mean? So like, I'm enjoying the
Starting point is 00:29:06 nourishment of a burger, but I'm not, I'm still hungry in half an hour. Yeah. Sorry. I was. I'll say this real quick. This is the first time I felt that that thing about the lighting you were kind of saying. Because when they were talking under the bridge, Vanessa and Luca, I was like, this kind of looks like law and order. Yeah, yeah. As opposed to it. Well, Vincent and Afria was on that. That's true. There's not a lot of dynamic contrast sometimes in the way their lighting is. But yeah, I think in the edit, what I'll say is this is I think the way they edit the fight, makes it look better of makes it look more believable that they're actually being hit i remember
Starting point is 00:29:42 in the netflix one as much as i prefer the camera work of the netflix one and the overall choreography there's plenty of times where it's like they're definitely not being hit like even in the final moment when in king even in the the final moment in season three when he's like punching kingpin repetitively and he's screaming it's like pretty obvious he's not actually punching him but eight inches a part but the moment is so effective that you don't really give a shit that it's obvious uh where as this i think a lot of the hyper editing while maybe yeah the quick cuts while maybe rooted in the justification of frantic and freneticism and whatever to add tension it does mask that better with some louder sound effects i still do kind of not kind of i i prefer like the uh the original
Starting point is 00:30:27 way they the last last episode captured more of that did that and that underground the lighting was intense yeah yeah exactly that's my last thing that's my last thing yeah well that is going to do it, I believe. Yeah. All right. We have been born again. I hope, uh, I, if eight and nine are as good as certain other episodes during the season, maybe my concerns are unfounded.
Starting point is 00:30:45 We are, however, in the last at most two hours of the show. Uh, so we will see how that all wraps up. We'll be back next week for Daredevil born again episode eight. Please leave a comment below. Let us know what you think of this episode of the reveal. Would you have liked to have seen more of Bastion and or Muse leading up? Would you like to see more supporting characters get their time? Would you like more episodes?
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