The Reel Rejects - DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2014) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Should we do it? Let's do it. Let's do it. Oh, my gosh. I do want to see if it was Craig Frazier. Is it Greg? Is it Greg or Craig? I think it's Craig Fraser

Starting point is 00:01:50 who did the cinematography. Because I know he usually works with Matt Reeves. I believe he also did Dune one and two. Oh, okay. So damn good. By the way, if you are listening to us on Apple or Spotify,

Starting point is 00:02:04 if you don't mind giving us a rating. Five stars, baby. Yes, we would really appreciate it. Hold on one step. We're going to get, oh, Michael. Okay, never mind. Well, whoever he is, I've never heard of him, but damn. Great job.

Starting point is 00:02:17 Great, great, great job. There was so many impressive shots in this film. I mean, I love this film. I mean, yeah. I mean, the first film was really, good. I love, there was so many different things in the whole theme of, you know, playing God and all that, which we've seen in Jurassic Park and other films. Oh, oh, Michael, Michael Jekina. Great score. You know, we've seen that theme for it. But again, I thought it was executed in a great job in the first film. But this film was, I personally, I still love the first one, but I like this. I just love how, sorry, I'm sick here. I just love how this film just expands the story. And again, Caesar and, oh, James. Jason Clark, right, that's his name. I just love how Caesar is just so fleshed out,

Starting point is 00:03:03 even more so than in the first film. Yeah. Just like he's got a family now. He's still got that protective, you know, nature, you know, like he did from the first film with James Franco and his, and John Lithgow's character. And just, I love the character arc he goes through, you know, like he's obviously after the events of the first film.

Starting point is 00:03:21 He's not very trustworthy of humans anymore, understandably so. And then, you know, it takes James. Jason Clark, and also the interactions he has with his wife and his son and all that, to reverse all that. And I thought there was just so much emotional depth in this film as well. And just so many touching moving moments, as in the first film as well. I thought the first film did a good job of doing that as well. But just so many different layers of this film, I appreciate the direction, the cinematography, the music, the acting. It's so damn good. It's amazing, too. Like the scenes were just the apes were talking with each other and interacting. I was like, I'm so damn invested,

Starting point is 00:04:00 just listening to apes interact right now. Me too. No humans. And also, too, you pointed out a few times. There were some great scenes where there's no talking. It's just visual storytelling and it's just conveying, you know, such a good job of conveying to us, the audience of what's going on or what we're supposed to feel. And like, that's a powerful thing without having to act. Judy Greer was in this. Huh. Really? Oh. Must have been an, must have been an ape. or um but either uh but again there was just so many different things i loved about this i'll get more into detail i want to hear what i mean i loved it i i specifically loved how much breath they put into a lot of the shots which again they tell the story without using many words at all it's just

Starting point is 00:04:43 phenomenal acting eyes that you just see along with the cinematography that really reels you in from the top all the way to the end which is like it just this is such a good example of that you don't need people to be talking the entire time to get your point across. Meaning this movie, I mean, from the top, even with just the mom and the kid being born and then seeing Caesar kind of come into his own and then welcoming the humans there in order to help his wife so that she wouldn't die, there weren't a lot of words. It was just like, okay, trust. And this whole movie was built around where there was.

Starting point is 00:05:25 wasn't a lot of trust and then became trust. And it's a bittersweet ending where they both leave knowing what they wanted was peace. They both had trust in each other. They didn't have big long emotional speeches or conversations. It was all just built around the simplicity of how they told the story. And the fact that he had to, as a human, I forget his, the name of the main, Malcolm had to walk away knowing that they would still be at war. And most likely what is coming for them is a lot of pain that they did not ask for. Meaning Malcolm put, for the sake of saving his own humankind, them in danger by going to the dam. Even though it wasn't Malcolm, it was just human versus ape and how two things can come together and things get wrecked when there's

Starting point is 00:06:22 miscommunication honestly in in human life and also in this miscommunication for sure can like wreck everything yeah of course we saw coba when he went to to the uh the compound the compound where they had the weapons so he you know in his nature because he's been tortured before he got his freedom he's been tortured by humans his entire life so again his motivation his understanding it's quite clear when he sees those weapons having the past that he's had you can understand his conclusion that he came to. Probably, being in his situation, I would have probably come to the same conclusion.

Starting point is 00:06:59 Having said that I still hated his gutch, which is fine. That's how we were supposed to feel. He was a very fully fleshed out villain and character. I love the way Coba was written in this film. But again, I think the best, again, I've said this many times and I will continue to say this, I think the best villains that you can write in films are ones you understand their motivations

Starting point is 00:07:20 while you don't agree with them, but you understand them. And I think, again, with Coba. We understood. And also, too, we saw it in the first film. And I think this film also did a great job of, again, I like a lot of times seeing flashbacks, more like see, don't tell kind of things. But I think this film did a good job of doing a little bit of both. Like, for instance, we had Gary Oldman's character.

Starting point is 00:07:39 We saw just in a couple snippets of pictures with his kid. And then again, that reaction from him was so damn visceral and so touching. And, oh, my God. Like, it made me cry. but like right there we we know his past right then and there without again no lines no actual flashback we see the pictures we know what he's been through we saw that he was a i guess a veteran as well so but that was great right there great storytelling great character characterization of his care of him and then also too you had with carrie russell's character just a couple lines of dialogue

Starting point is 00:08:12 just saying what had happened with her daughter and that her and um malcolm had met and now they have a relationship and there's a powerful bond there. And I also love to seeing the, the similarities between Caesar and with Malcolm. There's so, I mean, and also, too, there's a lot of similarities with Will, too, and how he saw so much of Will in this guy, too. You know what I mean? And I love that. It was such a powerful line for me, too. I know we said that we thought it was going to be he was my father, but he's a good man like you. And it's like he fully embraced his trust into humans and how much he adored this man as well. Yeah, I agree. It also was a really touching moment where we didn't really get to revisit it.

Starting point is 00:08:53 But with the kid and Maurice, it was, it was just that story with a lot less words of just, it was that one picture of a metaphor of how it could be between human and apes. And they mostly display that with the kid and Maurice and that book. I mean, I was so in that moment of like, this is so sweet. Yeah. And that really just was a great picture for like, this is how it could. be and unfortunately that picture is going to be blown up because of coba i think it's sad seeing the villain like coba because he was with caesar i mean a bunch of 10 winters had passed right

Starting point is 00:09:31 so meaning he was around really good leadership for a really long time and it didn't take much to to turn him yeah which is really unfortunate and that is that reminds me which is a corny ass phrase hurt people hurt people and it's sort of like hurt apes hurt apes in a way i mean he was he was tortured and and i get it that that stuff doesn't really leave you so there is a lot of human nature in a way that we can connect with coba even as a villain which is why you said we understand where he is coming from which is why there was still a pull there of like ah we we get it but like also you should really trust Caesar in this and unfortunately he didn't and that's what I think made this such a really great story is that they built up that foundation with a villain which sometimes we don't

Starting point is 00:10:26 always get and in this I feel like the breath and the time given to each character the fact that we didn't get a lot of time with Carrie Russell or the kid or even Malcolm but as you said there were all moments that we got with each of them that we truly felt. And that to me makes a great film. Absolutely. And like I said, I mean, even in the first like five, ten minutes that we got with Malcolm and Carrie Russell's character. We felt. Yeah. Oh, I was right away, I was like, oh my God. Like again, this isn't a bashing on James Franco or Frida Pinto. I'm sorry if it's Pinto. Yeah, yeah, that's just a chemistry thing. And maybe the way it's written. I think those are two very good actors. I just think it's the way it's written. And just right away, they came off as I just

Starting point is 00:11:10 felt so invested and didn't want anything to happen to them. Not that I'm saying I want. I think that happened to Will and Frida. But point being is I also think, too, there was some powerful lines from Kobe. Like he had mental and physical scars. I mean, when he said, like, human work, human work. Like, he was pointing to those, too. So I just think that was very symbolic of how he felt and, like, inside and out. That really gave the audience a dilemma because I felt him so much there of going.

Starting point is 00:11:36 I felt, I get it. The poll there. Yeah. And again, we talked about this. but Caesar, like, he's felt the good side and been with Will. Like, he's had good humans. And Coba has been, you know, Malfoy and I believe it was Brian Cox's character in the first film. They abused and tortured Coba and Maurice and all the other ones their entire lives.

Starting point is 00:11:59 So he has had, you know, no goodness from humans is his whole life. So it's, again, very understandable why Coba hates and despises. And like you said, they had 10 winters together, no problems. But once humans started getting in the mix, boom, all over. I thought this film also did a good job of highlighting. What can happen if you have a psychotic, crazy, warmonger type of leader in, you know, in charge of things? Because we saw, like, right away, while Caesar, like, cared about the apes, you know, he was about harmony and peace. Like, always, like, yes, hey, if we got to go to war, we'll go to war.

Starting point is 00:12:37 I'm going to come, we're going to charge the front lines a little bit and just let the humans know, hey, you stay over there. We'll stay over here. We're going to put a little fear into them and no one needs to get hurt. Like that's good leadership in my opinion right there. Coba was like, nah, let's wipe them off the face. Understandably so, I don't agree with it, but understandably so I get where he was coming from. But like, that's good leadership right there. And if Coba had just stayed in line, obviously we don't get the movie.

Starting point is 00:13:06 Um, but, you know, there's peace, there's harmony. And like you said, with, uh, what we got from Malcolm's son and, uh, Maurice and Maurice. That bridge gets, you know, the gap gets, you know, more connected there and we get what we could have had. But that was a nice, uh, that image and that scene was, like you said, I loved it so much because it's what could have been. Yeah. But unfortunately, I don't think we're gonna get that at all, especially now knowing that the army from the north is coming. And I was, and I was, and I do know that the title. the third film. Again, I don't know anything about the third film. I just know it's called war of the, war of the planet or something like that. Yeah. So I would assume that is the leading to the third film. But also too, I thought it was really interesting as well. I'm not tarot that the whole lead up and set up for this. I mean, we knew it was going to happen, but just the way the world, just the post-apocalyptic feel to the world after what had happened with the airline pilot. Because obviously we saw that character in the first film that had worked with Will, I'm sorry I don't remember his name off the top of my head.

Starting point is 00:14:10 He got infected with the A-Z-L-L-L-Z. Yeah, whatever it's called. Let us know in the comments. But anyways, he got infected with it, and we saw that it is a very dangerous thing if you don't have, you know, total autoimmunity. Right. And then we saw, obviously, the ending was, okay, this is not going to be good for human civilization.

Starting point is 00:14:31 I didn't know it was going to be to this scale and it was going to, like, post-apocalyptic. I definitely thought it was going to be a, a very big deal. I was just not expecting it to this level to where human civilization was like on the brink and crumbling and like, but I thought this was the most compelling and dramatic choice you could have made as writers. I thought that was like the right thing to do. I agree. And the set design in this was phenomenal. I mean, it gave me like goosebumps just looking at it. I mean, it felt so apocalyptic and so realistic. And, and I mean, bringing it back to the other little glimpse of human nature that we got, you know, would just carry Russell

Starting point is 00:15:08 saving Caesar, but also carry Russell saving his wife so that she could still be a mom to his two sons and they could still continue on even though the end of their journey does not look good. But it gave us that nice picture ending of like he does still have his family even though the future looks pretty grim. We don't know what's coming for them, but we know it's not going to be good. Right. And that, and that, I'm so sorry, I was just going to say, just to add your point, that adds to the character arc for Caesar and also too for blue eyes. Caesar's son, like, yeah, there were times where, you know, Coba was getting in his ears, he was getting manipulated a little bit. Understandably so, again, he didn't grow up with Will

Starting point is 00:15:49 or anything like that. He'd only heard and seen the vile sides of human beings. Also, too, he saw his friend, Ash, get shot by loose cannon there. So, understandably so he, you know, had a fear and animosity towards human beings. Yeah. But it was nice to see like he had finally been swayed towards humans after seeing Carrie Russell, save his mother's life. And then obviously, Coba did the whole thing. Through Ash over the thing.

Starting point is 00:16:12 Well, no, no, before Ash. I'm talking about where he shot Caesar. And then obviously, okay, I hate humans. Now I'm going to follow Caesar wherever and avenge my father. Of course. But no, I thought Carrie Russell, one of the biggest MVP's in this film. But yeah, I loved this movie. movie so much. Cinematography, the music, Matt Reeves. Again, I said this at the beginning of this

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Starting point is 00:18:28 See you guys. I mean, from top to bottom, like you said, the score, the special effects, even those explosions, like the set design, all of this from start to finish brought me in. And again, they didn't need a lot of words. The script was still great, meaning without all of that dialogue, there wasn't a lot of exposition, which I appreciate. Just trust in your audience to know that we know where you're going. And I think that movies that do that and trust the audience that we have brains and you don't need to tell us all of these things in advance, make the movie that much better.

Starting point is 00:19:05 Make an audience go, thank you for just sharing the story with me and allowing me to experience it, which is what they did a phenomenal job with. And there were a couple times, too, where I thought like, oh, we're going to go a little bit of the generic formulaic route. And it's superting my expectations. I was like, what? And this is, even a couple of times where it did go to the formulaic route, I was so damn invest. I was like, I don't even, that's so good. I don't care. Yeah, we got to do some sick at some point.

Starting point is 00:19:32 Yeah, it avoided for the most part doing those things. But again, the times it did subvert my expectations, it wasn't, we're just going to subvert just to subvert. It was actually done in satisfaction of the story and for the characters. In a really smart way that we didn't really truly expect. And I really, I'm like 10 out of 10, I love this movie. It makes me want to watch the next one. the best sequel, I mean, it's right up there with one of the best sequels I've ever seen. I mean, you got, I mean, I don't know if I'm going to say it's like as good as Terminator 2 or like

Starting point is 00:20:01 Empire Strikes Back, but it's, it's one of the best sequels I've ever seen for sure. Yeah. I would, I would give it like a nine, 9.5 out of 10. Absolutely. I'd probably say something like that. But I think, what do you think? Should I read some fun trivia facts? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:13 Let's do, let's do some facts. Let me just find Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. There we go. I found it. Also, this movie's just, it's a black. And also too, I forgot to say Andy Circus was so damn good again. And this film as Caesar, like, I don't think he was nominated for this film, but I don't know, what do you think? Do you think he should have been?

Starting point is 00:20:37 Oh, yeah. I mean, I think he should. I don't care if it's mocap. He should have been nominated. They're all, I mean, from the live action actors, actual actors to just all of the apes in this. I mean, it's just, it's a great film, I believe. every second of it. Okay, so I got the trivia here.

Starting point is 00:20:56 Okay, I'll read like five or six. Does that sound good to you? Okay. So the first one has 900 people found this interesting. So I'll read that one. All right. There are two clues to the fate of Will Rodman, James Franco. Okay.

Starting point is 00:21:09 After the events of rise of the planet of the apes, when Caesar returns to his house, a sign can be seen with an X on the stoop by the door. Usually this means someone living there is infected, so it can be assumed he was one of the first to die in the plague. Also, Will's 1980s era, Jeep Wagoner, is still parked in the front of the house covered in vines and vegetation, but it can clearly be seen when Caesar and friends first arrived to the house. I love that.

Starting point is 00:21:35 Of course, if Will had left his house, he most likely would have driven his vehicle. Right. That's a good point. I was wondering, I'm not going to lie, I was wondering, why haven't we gotten any mention of anything? But, of course, Caesar hasn't seen him in 10 years, so he's not going to make any mention, but just anything from even the script writer is just letting us know. but that makes sense.

Starting point is 00:21:53 Yes, it does. I did notice that X and also his car is still. Yeah. So probably didn't survive. Nope. Oh, poor Will. And Frida as well as what I would assume they got married. Anyways, next one.

Starting point is 00:22:07 The orangutan that is featured prominently in this film is named Maurice. We did know that. This is a reference to Maurice Evans who portrayed the orangutane Dr. Seuss and Planet of the Apes from 1968 and beneath the Planet of the Apes, 1970. We have not seen those films. but to all you other apes fans of the series. Cool fun fact for you. The photographs of Dreyfus' children are of Gary Oldman's children in real life.

Starting point is 00:22:33 Wow. Well, I'm sure that made it a lot easier for him to get emotionally. He's like, I haven't seen my kids in months. I'm working on this damn age over. I want to see my kid. Yeah. But I felt it. Yeah, I did.

Starting point is 00:22:45 That was a Bravo acting moment. Oh, my God. Well, Carrie Oldman always, it doesn't even matter if the movie's good or bad. He always brings it. He always brings it that guy. All right, four more, we'll call it. According to director Matt Reeves, the original draft of the screenplay, which was written before he was hired, was set further in the future, with the apes having obtained the ability to speak almost flawlessly. And Caesar played a much smaller role.

Starting point is 00:23:09 Oh, I'm glad they changed that. Reeves thought it would be more interesting to explore Caesar's story at an earlier stage and asked for permission to rewrite the script from scratch. His request was granted on the condition that he. deliver the film in time for the schedule release date. Matt Reeves. Yes. Thank you. These are all super smart choices. Wise choice.

Starting point is 00:23:28 What was I saying from the beginning to the end? They know how to tell a story without all these words. If the apes, if the apes spoke flawlessly, I would have not liked this movie as much. The way they did it, it was the way that it should be done. So thank you, Matt. Agreed. And also, I'm glad we still got to focus on Caesar storyline still being fleshed out more. We needed that.

Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah, thank God. And the film did take place in 20, 26, 10 years later. Okay, we know that, okay. Despite having a cameo via videotape, James Franco had no involvement nor knowledge of his cameo. The video is stock footage from Rise of the Planet of the Apes in an interview. James Franco did state, and I quote, wait, I have a cameo?

Starting point is 00:24:12 I didn't even know that, you know, I didn't even think they asked permission to do that. You know what's funny about that? I was wondering. I was like, in my head, I'm like, okay, this is. This is footage from the first movie. Yeah. Did they still need to ask him permission to use his face? And like, I mean, because he did sign a deal for the first film.

Starting point is 00:24:29 So do you need to ask permission to show something from a film he's signed for? Because you're not, I don't know how that works. Well, he would need to get, he's probably also like, hey, I should get paid for that. I was wondering. I was wondering that. Because you do, you do get paid for when that's shown. So if he has a cameo. Even though he's not technically in the film

Starting point is 00:24:51 It's more from... Yeah, I mean, they own the rights to the previous film So they can put that in there But I do think that he would be owed some At least like a heads up But also... At least that. Yes, I agree.

Starting point is 00:25:04 And then it's like... Some payment because if his face is in a giant movie, he is playing a part in that. Yeah, because you know he's going to find out about it Even though if you have the rights to the first one. So I'm wondering if there was a result. Okay, last two and I promise. We're done.

Starting point is 00:25:19 Caesar was raised by humans and most of the other apes were not. We know that. We know that. His behavior reflects this in several subtle ways. Caesar is often seen walking upright like humans, whereas the other apes usually walk a bit more prone on all fours. Caesar frequently uses human speech, which the other apes do only rarely and much more crudely. Finally, when Caesar and the other apes are walking through the subway tunnel, he is the only ape to walk through the, turnstiles?

Starting point is 00:25:50 Oh, the turnstiles straight up. Turnstiles, yeah, whereas the other apes climb over them. Climb over it. That's right. I love that. Well, it makes sense. I didn't even really register that in my brain until you said it, and now I'm envisioning it, and I really like that detail.

Starting point is 00:26:03 Okay, you're going to like the last one. You're going to like this one. All right, let's go for it. The name Blue Eyes was given to Caesar's son because he is of the first generation to be born without the chemical that changed the rest of the ape's eyes to green when they were in the laboratory. Very cool. Oh, I love that. Very, very, very cool. Anyways, obviously we can't read all the fat. We would if we could, but we'd be here. I'd be here old. And I doubt you guys want to hear me the rest of the time on here. But we don't, Andrew. We do. Amazing, amazing sequel. Again,

Starting point is 00:26:40 I just love how they expanded the story in such a satisfying, amazing, dramatic, emotional, phenomenal way. I can't wait to see the third one. I've heard without any spoilers that the third one is phenomenal as well. Oh, wow. Okay. I'm excited. Yes, I cannot wait to. Make sure that you guys then leave a like. You better leave a comment, share it. Let Craig and John know that we have to see that one because we're only going to watch it here. So let them know. Get those likes up. Get the comments up and make sure you share this video so that it goes crazy viral so we can watch all of them because we love so much. You got any last words for him, Andrew? No, just, again, I love this movie. So I love these reboots. I mean, we haven't seen the original franchise. Again, the only ones I've seen

Starting point is 00:27:28 is the Tim Burton ones, which I didn't hate that movie. It wasn't very good. It's nowhere near as compelling and dramatic and as amazing as this, but I didn't hate that like everyone else, but it wasn't very good either. But this franchise, the reboot, the 2011 and this version, phenomenal movies. I can't wait for the third one. I just can't believe how touching and compelling these stories are Matt Reeves, everyone, the writer's serious, brilliant job. Yeah, 10 out of 10, Bravo. Thank you for giving us a film that we were engaged in from the beginning to the end. I went through an emotional journey, which you guys know, I complain about when that doesn't happen. This movie gave me that and I appreciate it very much. Or when the characters don't pick up the guns.

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The Reel Rejects - DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2014) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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