The Reel Rejects - DC’S DOMINATING! Superman SHATTERS Records! Batman & Superman NEW MOVIE?! Wonder Woman REBORN!

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

DC WILL LEAD THE INDUSTRY!! Superman pre-sale tickets are officially breaking records, and DC is coming in HOT! Greg & Coy break down everything from James Gunn’s upcoming Superman—starring David Corenswet as Clark Kent, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor, Skyler Gisondo as Jimmy Olsen, Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner, Isabela Merced as Hawkgirl, Edi Gathegi as Mr. Terrific, Anthony Carrigan as Metamorpho, María Gabriela de Faría as The Engineer, and Wendell Pierce as Perry White—to what this means for the future of the DCU. We explore the possibility of a Batman & Superman: World's Finest movie, the casting potential of Adria Arjona as Wonder Woman, and what Gunn’s DC slate could bring with titles like Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, Lanterns, The Authority, The Brave and the Bold, Swamp Thing, Booster Gold, Creature Commandos, Waller, and potential multiverse tie-ins with Peacemaker Season 2 and Crisis on Infinite Earths. We also go deep on the cultural impact of Mr. Terrific, speculate on hidden cameos in Superman, debate the rise of spoof movies (Scary Movie 6, Spaceballs 2, Naked Gun reboot), and reflect on the pressures of content creation, mental health, addiction, and honesty in the YouTube world. From superhero hype to personal growth and birthday horror wishes—this is one of the rawest, nerdiest, most hype-packed episodes of the Reel Rejects Podcast yet. Like, comment, and subscribe for more reactions, breakdowns, and real talk on everything film, fandom, and the DC vs. Marvel era! Follow Coy Jandreau:  Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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which is a good problem. but a problem nonetheless. How are you? I'm okay, red. I'm very, I'm very much in a weird funky heads faced

the past few days. That's what New York does to you. You see the other side and come back and both are stressful. Yeah, if I'm being totally honest with you, I had a meeting with my

psychiatrist just yesterday when I was telling you about. The follow up to what we talked about? Yeah, I might have BDP. And I was going went through some of, like, my, uh, what I normally do. And I was like, there's something that's been kind of, like, gnawing at my brain.

And I'm like, is this an unhealthy thing? And I was, I'm just not, I wasn't educated on it. Uh, you know those, like, blue shots I was taking? Those, like, Kava shots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So apparently there's this thing in there called Kratom. Yeah, you shouldn't have too much Kratum, dude. I didn't know was what it was.

It makes your joints feel funny. And I found myself taking, like, a focus, cratim, which was helping. Sure. Help shift the state. And, And then I found myself, like, taking it almost every single day for, like, the past few months. I would posit you as someone who used to smoke, like, you know, religiously to, like, I don't, I wouldn't recommend that substance. I mean, I'll tell you right now, I have a habit of switching one addiction.

That's what I was implying. I do. Like, vices for vices. A thousand percent. Like, I went from, like, the main, before it was like, I'm popping extra Adderall when I was on Adderall. And then I started, then I was smoking cigarettes. I was smoking cigarettes. And that's what I was smoking e-cigress.

You knew me then. I was like, I was vaping all the time. And then afterwards I was chewing nicotine gum all the time. Now I'm chewing regular gum constantly. And the vaping was only that worried me because I felt like you knew it was bad for you. And then when you changed a gum, I was like, yay. But then like anything can be. But now my gum, my gums now hurt.

My teeth now hurt. And my. So I was talking with my psychiatrist, who's also a therapist. It's kind of rare, but he's a psychiatrist. and a DBT therapist, dialect behavioral therapist. And yeah, I brought up what, I brought that up. So I'm like, there's a kind of itching. And he was telling me like how really bad it is.

I was like researching it a lot. And we were researching it together. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure I developed an addiction to it. It's highly addictive. And I didn't, I just didn't know. Sure. I was kind of like naive or ignorant or when I bought it, it was like at a health store.

Yeah. So I was like, oh, cool. It's how they get you. Yeah. It's in a store with a lot of green. It's got to be good. And it's been whatever the last time Tara got COVID, that's when I started taking like half a bottle and it says like don't exceed half a bottle. And I started exceeding half a bottle. And and more than once a week. I said don't exceed a full bottle. Right. And I was doing as I was like I was like I'm going to exceed one bottle. Damn, fine. Yeah. And but I started noticing like I am noticing that I kind of feel like I need. Like even in I was normally taking it because I feel like I need to be on. I need to film. And I wasn't taking it on days I wasn't filming, which is rare. It's only like one day a week. I'm not filming. But when I was in. in New York, I found myself wanting to take it.

Then I started becoming really questionable because I was taking it every day in New York. I'm like, have I developed like an addiction to this? Yeah. And apparently it's like getting off of it is equivalent to like getting off of opioids. It's your body will probably have like set effects. Yeah. And so your mood's going to be garbage. I'm going to warn you now.

And then you're also probably going to have like not like full shakes, but like if your body does weird sit. Like be aware of it. Don't don't not look into it, but also don't be alarmed. You know what I mean? Like be aware without being like. freaked out like you might have a little handshakes and stuff like it's a bad it's a rough one i was told that i could taper off um to like from a full bottle a half a bottle but i haven't taken any today uh i don't think you have just tapering off but i want to just kind of see what happens i mean i

once every six months stop everything i'm doing to see if i like have developed i'm a very addictive person yeah me too personally so like i stop coffee every six months to make sure it's still a thing that i'm handling well i stop drinking every six months i like i stop all my stuff because I'm always afraid of like one day being like oh I'm fiending oh no and like so for me personally like I have had friends get addicted to stuff like create them and create them itself and I've always been like leery of anything that you know if it has a bottle recommendation but that's not to plug because they're not a sponsor of this that's by like magic mind because it gives me that same what's in the mind this is liquid IV and magic mind I'm not even kidding they did not say me to say this but that really helped me with when I pull off coffee I supplement that and then like there are times I don't even do that because I'm trying to make sure, but like, I have found magic mind as good as a supplement, like a methadone. Like if, if I was trying to not have cratim, I would try a little electromagnet mind or a little more caffeine. So your body's like at least got something stimulating it, because it's a stimulant. It's just a different kind of stimulant. But that's the

problem with me is I get, I feel like I need stimulants to function. It's been like that. I know, I do. Been like that for like 20 years. Yeah. And I'm, and I feel like I've replaced one thing for, even when it comes to my weight loss, it was like, I'm going to become so, oh, I got fat i'm gonna get so many get a six-pack i'm addicted to fries i'm addicted to not fries you know it's it's it's it sounds like while people see me as like oh you're healthy which externally yeah i was like and i am healthier in a lot of ways but i'm like and i also have these like other terrible addictions are unhealthy you can be addicted to jimms i'm doing in my brain and body apparently that i wasn't fully aware of or i was in denial of it i'm trying to just not be in denial

about it right now i think success kind of breeds that too and i think successful people are often addicts and i've actually thought about this a lot with hollywood the pressure to stay on. Yeah. And like it's also like a company is infinite growth, right? Yeah. When you look at like quarterly stock yields and like companies like got to show growth, I feel like we like you and I particularly are like,

I'm better than last quarter. And like we turn ourselves into that infinite growth business. And sometimes that leads to addiction of good things or bad things or both. But I always have to cut myself off trying that because I'm afraid of the same thing. Well, we'll see. See how I am by tonight. Sure. Because I don't know.

Since I woke up and been like, oh my God, do I have, do I have chills? Do I have it? Don't overthink you will Like psychosomatically Racing thoughts is a real problem of mine And I'm already like oh my god Now I'm already getting like my self paranoid Like am I am I withdrawing right now

I just be aware of like overhydrate Like I would try to overhydrate And I would try to have stimulants that your body likes And in my case that's caffeine and natural mine And I did the math and if I drink four to five of these It's a gallon of water That's great So I'm on like third one should I think of

I have to clean on my liver is what it is Yeah like you need to get your body like To do a liver detox No this is good too dude Milk thistle is good for your liver and kidneys. Anyway, we can answer the Patreon cues after. That's our warm-up. Hey, welcome to the podcast.

Real Rejects podcast. Greg has an addiction, and he's working on it right now. But that's the thing, is before I feel like I would have, I feel like I, I'm just kind of in this phase in my life from, I've, I've become way more honest easily over the past few years about my movies and show opinions. That's not a problem to me. but it's this other stuff where I'm like I kind of feel like I do hide it

sure and then it becomes a secrecy thing that builds up and then before you know it I'm like oh crap now I'm depending on this to be active it happened with our Superman trailer reaction it's like it's a feel normal I need it that's what I realize that's what I realize is a problem it's not like jacking me up or getting me like freaking it's just it's like oh now I feel like I normally function yeah that's me with coffee

like I have to quit coffee because I'll take like you know four or five cups in the morning and be like okay now we're ready to start the day and everybody else be like and like the my baseline is way too high but the best feeling is when you quit the addiction and you look back and go like that feeling of like accomplished like like social media right now for me like i'm so i was so addicted to social media now when i log on to instagram or twitter and i look at the little notifications they don't give me a rush and it makes me feel so good that those dumb little like numbers used to mean so much to me and now i'm like that feels great so the day

that you're like i don't have any need of this thing it's going to be like hell yeah but until then it's going to suck. Yeah. Yeah. I'm really just being cautious of not, I'm not trying not to supplement one addiction for another because that tends to be what I do. Yeah. Because I am very extreme.

I am an extreme guy, which has helped me to, like, sure, sure, turn a thing that was supposed to be a thing to get me into the newspaper to a full company. Right. So, yeah. But you can also be obsessed with, like, cold turkey. Like, I know people that get addicted to, like, I'm so good at straight-edgedness. And then it's, like, another form. So just mindfulness.

Yeah. And a big part. us from helping me honest is the fact that I've been doing this podcast with John, which haven't aired anything more it's going to be on with Impact Collaborative. And it's called Real Rejects Diaries. We are converting Diary Reject to that. And it's very much just a very honest conversation. And by the way, happy birthday, John. Thanks for being here. Working on his birthday. Hey, happy to be here with you guys. Greg texted first. I commented on TikTok first. Mine was much more millennial. I will have to log into my now defunct to TikTok and find

Well, it was the real rejects post. So I'm on there. I made sure I was first. I was very excited about it. Thank you, Koi. Thank you, brother, for being here on a day like this. Thank you, man. What are we out on the time?

9.09. This is what parent. This is being paranoid. I'm like, ooh, this would be an interesting opening for the podcast. The producer. No one watches it. I'm going, but will people, like, just stop, like, click off and be like, what is this? Even though the next hour is going to be exactly the topic that people are showing up for.

I experiments at last week. It didn't work out, Greg. I was like, I'm so excited. I'm going to take charge and I'm going to do a summer movie preview because that's my favorite magazine of the year. Crickets. You got like the smallest viewership to date. And there's a couple of things I would have retooled on presentation-wise

in order to try to help bring that up. Sometimes I act like I know what I'm doing when I really don't. But you know what you're doing, Greg. Anyway, let's get into it, Coy. Let's get into it because we had our, at the day of filming this, yesterday we had a final Superman trailer and the Superman pre-sale ticket. went up. Leave a like on this video, please. The super ramp resale tickets went up.

They already had the prime video one where you can get an early screening, which I think is a great sign. When Warner Brothers does that, they did that for Shazam 1, not Shazam 2. When they did that first Shazam 1, that was a sign that they have a lot of faith. This one will be a good movie. And Warner Brothers

is one of the more consistent ones to do that, right? I think of them as doing that when they're like a bolt swing, like center screened early. I don't think they should do that anymore. Because when they don't do it, I feel like Because then we're like, wait a second. This must be a man. What are they hiding?

That's true. It is a weird. Like, you can definitely tell their thoughts on a thing. Yeah, exactly. They started the press store for 28 years later really early. Yeah, that's a good side. Exactly. Are they Warner Brothers?

Isn't it? I don't feel like they are. Is it Sony? I think they're Sony. Pretty sure they're Sony. Unrelated. Well, with Superman. 20 weeks later.

That's what it was. Oh, God. It's not at the top of the page. But F1 started screening early because they've been a world press oh it's it's so many pictures that's it we were just chaos what do you know uh the first thing i wanted to point out with this because we got we got so many quite most of our questions were about superman we put out you know community post and patreon post and you guys have made my life much easier because i was putting this together

about 30 minutes ago and i was like oh okay this is really focused on the main thing at so thank you and we just want to tend to what you guys want us to talk about uh the first thing i wanted to point out though which i thought was really cool is did you see what what Pedro Pascal shared. Yeah. He shared this fan art of Superman and I'll, here, I'll pull up the post for you so you can see it. I think it's really cool that he shared. It's a fan art.

Oh, I love that. That's so wholesome. Super fantastic. That's the summer, man. And the fact that it was Mr. Fantastic himself and this fan art is great, by the way. This is a really cool fan art. Secondly, it's Marvel and D.C., the faces of the movies. And to show that camaraderie and support when, you know, Marvel and DC are the thing that is constantly pitted against each other as who is better, who will dominate.

And I understand why that happens, but this is a time where we need unity in the theaters. If there's one thing, it might sound like a sideline here, if there's one thing I have really absorbed from Tom Cruise over the promotional run for mission impossible is how much he supports movies in general. Talked about ballerina at Mission Impossible. Oh, did he? Yeah, he talked about how excited he was to see ballerina and that it was coming out soon thereafter. Even the fact that in CinemaCon, it seemed like an improv.

Like, he deviated to talk about F1. Yeah. And be like Brad did the drive. Brad, like he was hyped for it himself. You could feel it. But he has no personal involvement in it. And yeah, promoting sinners and stuff. He's promoting movies in general.

Actively promoted sinners. And so to bring it down to a more focused nebulous, it would be that Marvel and DC cross-promoted. promoting each other. Yeah. Probably one of the smartest maneuvers they can do right now. James Gond did promotion for Fantastic Four. James,

when they were talking about like the movies eating themselves, he's like, no, no, it comes out two weeks after us, plenty of time people to see our film. I'm excited for it to see Fantastic Four. I hope people do too.

So like James Gunn, who directed one of them also came out and said like, no, no, see the other one too. Sometimes though, when in my brain, I'm not saying this is the case. In my brain,

sometimes I receive it as they're being asked a question, so they're being polite. and they're saying the pleasant thing so they don't look bad. It wasn't really they are competing. He could have ignored it. That's my point. So when I see Pedro Pascal share that, that's a really good unity thing for the audience to latch onto, hopefully, even though people will still pit against each other.

Yeah. It's like with the YouTubers even, they'll do a bunch of collabs or they'll still pit against each other. I always say it's not a Marvel store or a DC comic store. I mean, or a DC comic store. Like when you go to the theater, you're not going to the Disney theater or the Sony theater. You're going to the theater. So I don't think we should have this tribalism. no no not anymore it has to end yeah it has to end especially if the theaters are going to

survive because he can't just rely on we need one to two movies a year to do really well we cannot count on the rest of the year like white knuckling through the fall can't anymore we need a consistency and so we need a we need a whole collective of people studios being willing to share in that we were talking about in in the talk of you know infinite business infinite growth and stuff that is the industry that is the movie business. So this to me is a sign of something that can be bigger and more prosperous. And they would just elevate both of their companies and they probably both do better. And then everyone wins.

And it's okay if everyone wins. I also think down the line they're going to cross over. So it's good to start doing this now. Because how do you go bigger than Dooms Day and Secret Oars? Oh, you have a little crossover with the director of that movie that did Guardians, who's now doing Superman. Doom versus Batman. It's coming. Something like that's coming.

Let's get it going. Okay. Well, thanks for letting me spin on that. Not anytime soon, by the way. I'm saying like long game. We got a question here from Mark. He says, how do you all feel about the Superman pre-sales doing good? And do you all think Fantastic Four pre-sales will increase as well?

So to give a little bit of additional context, according to multiple sources, the film has broken Fandango's record for the first best day ticket pre-seller of 2025, surpassing all other films this year, including Marvel's The Fantastic Four. which previously held the record for first day pre sales the high demand for early access screen reportedly crash van dango's website indicating significant audience enthusiasm apparently the pre sales for after that have also surpassed fantastic four because fantastic four crashed a bunch of sites too i remember hearing it looks like superman's going to be the biggest movie of the year great sign that the number one and number two are superman and fantastic four for our culture like

i think that's a really good sign that july is what i thought it was going to be where Jurassic is going to sneak up on us and somehow make a billion dollars like it always does. And then it looks like Superman will as well and Fantastic Four is likely to. I could see it being a $3 billion month. And that's so exciting. Oh, yeah. I could see it not clearing a billion by like the end of the month because Fantastic Four is coming out right at the end of the month. But I think three movies that debut in July might make a billion dollars this year.

I feel like Fantastic Four and Superman will make a billion dollars or Fantastic Four could come close to. Yeah. I think Fantastic 4 is like about 900 million in my heart rate. First off, Marvel needs it. Sure. It's, they need it. They really do. Thunderbolts should have done better.

Thunderbolts did not make its money back. No, and it's great, which is not a good sign. It's not like one of those where it's like it came out and word of mouth was bad. Word of mouth was great and it still did. Word mouth was so good on it. It is one where I have had to mute a lot because I was a, I didn't do that with Captain America Brave New World and still didn't get spoiled, but I did it for Thunderbolts. I'm like, I'm so worried about what's in that, whatever's in that.

I still don't know the post-credit scene. I have no clue what the post-credit scene is. And I've been really good about it. Yet, it's that weird contrast where I look online and I feel like it's a massive hit. Just like when I look on Twitter and I feel like everyone hates Superman. Sure. And then you're like, oh, wait, the toys are selling out. Pre-sell tickets are huge.

Yeah, exactly. The view counts on the trailers are so consistent. Like with Jurassic World Rebirth, I saw it, I think today. the first trailer got 40 million views Official trailer 2 got 5 million views or something Both of those numbers

are lower than I would have expected Even the first Really? I mean look at the drop-off though On the first to second I'm surprised the drop-off is from that low of the first trailer number I wonder if I'm looking at the right thing Because studios do weird things

Where they combine everything now They're like this trailer got a billion views Like what are you talking about Oh they're combining Aggregating off 17 trailer sites Exactly. And we count it every time it played at AMC. Which is fair.

Obviously, it's fair. It's just really funny how it's different. But the optics are so, you have to really factor in a lot. 300 people sitting in a theater times five shows a day. It's 1500 people. That's a lot. Yeah, exactly. So beyond that, Jurassic World Rebirth, I don't feel like there's hype around it.

I feel like every Jurassic World, I'm like, this is the one that's not going to succeed. And then at the end of the summer, I'm like, made a billion dollars. I don't know how it always happens. They're not that good. They're fine. I love dinosaurs. I will always be there. I'm the problem.

Opening night, I'll be at Jurassic World going, man, fool me once, twice, and thrice. Here I am for a fourth suffering. And like, it'll make a billy. But Jurassic World Falling Kingdom had the tease of what could happen where they leave the island and they tease Jeff Goldblum. And then Dominion is the cell on, like, they're going to definitely be off the island.

And Jeff Goldblum and Sam. Neil and Lord Dern are all returning, and they're going to combine with the new cast. So that, there was a lot of big, exactly, there's a lot of things. This one, there's another hybrid mutant thing. There's nothing really big, and there's no IMAX release for this. Oh, I might take my thing back. If they're not even confident in the IMAX, that is a confident moment. Like when you claim the IMAX theater, because it's got nine days before Superman,

which is enough time, I think, to get its major audience. Yeah. But maybe not a billion for the first time. You're right. And that first poster they released, I thought, I'm rarely a judge, I'm really a judgey guy about posters. It was, it was so bad. You're like, one of the worst posters. The one where Scarlet Johansson is massive and the T-Rex is tiny.

Like, this should be reversed. You know, we're here for dinosaurs. I love Scarlet Johansson, but it's a dinosaur franchise. My big concern is that I think they're finally going to do the thing they want to do with the first trilogy, where they do human dinosaur hybrids. They've been threatening that so long. I'm so afraid that's going to be the movie And I'll be like They need to tease it though

Because I don't feel the hype around it But like you said It could be wrong It always sneaks up on me Fan base is huge around it Apparently they're weird Netflix Jurassic World animated shows

Or Cretaceous or whatever the hell is called I think all three will clear Camp Cretaceous Thank you John I think all three are going to clear 800 million And I think that it'll be a $3 billion month by the end of the time

If not from those three films But from those and supporting There's a lot of really cool weird stuff coming out in the month too. Like Eddington is coming out, which the new Ari Aster film with Peter Pascal. And then there's also a Smurfs is going to be huge. Smurfs is going to surprise everybody. It's going to clear 800 million two. No, family films tend to do pretty well. So like that's all the same month though. I think July is going to be a blockbuster. A thousand percent. I mean, Superman and Fantastic Four alone will do it. Do you feel like the pre-sales for this could

help elevate Fantastic Four? I think that it could be a two-week spread super fantastic like the art. I think it could have the Barbenheimer effect. Because I I think two weeks is a sweet spot to go back and revisit. And I know I'm personally really excited to be the most. I've never had a DC Marvel double feature of new stuff to scale, like of my type of Marvel and DC. This is the first time I'm going to be able to buy a ticket to Superman and then see Fantastic Four after in two weeks.

And I'm going to do it. I know for sure. I think two weeks is a perfect amount of time for someone to be like, oh, and I want to go back and see Superman while I'm here. So I think it's going to elevate that way. I think Fantastic Four is going to do great, but I think it's also going to help Superman out. Very true. Very true.

And I think if Jurassic's decent, it might be a good day to go super Jurassic Fantastic. Okay. Because that'd be an awesome like seven hours. Absolutely. That is literally like a 12-year-old's dream. Like, what are you doing today? Good watch Jurassic Park Fantastic for in Superman? Ah, well, thanks for the question, Mark.

I'm glad to see Superman's, because everything is relying on Superman, a whole universe launch. Yeah. No matter, Marvel's had some pretty big failures lately, and they're still going. They're still going strong, and they still got all the money to bring in Robert Downey Jr. and the Russo brothers and a cast of 50 chairs, you know? But Superman, they, in order to keep going, that's like, the way Warner Brothers is running. If this movie fails,

he's just like, there's a scenario where they're like, well, don't release Supergirl then, you know? I think the Supergirl is safe. I think after that, I'd be worried. I, because just because it's, I think almost done, I don't know. I think almost done. And I think there is some lead up with Peacemaker and Lanterns.

So there is a bit of runway, but I do think the stakes, I've said it before publicly. Like, I think that Superman has, the highest stakes of any film maybe in movie history on release because I think the superhero bubble is a different thing after Superman if it does well or horribly. Have you heard the rumor, the big rumor about a Batman Superman movie being the next? That's what everyone thinks James Gunn is writing.

Well, okay, yeah. So to make this clear, I had a James Gunn answered a question about a secret sequel saying what I'm working on in some way. I mean, yes, yes, yes, but is it a straight-up... Okay, he's asked about I'm working on a sequel. Let me do this. Let me say that again. Let me say that again.

I know the quote. I was confused. James Gunn's secret is if he's working on a sequel for Superman or if he's going to be doing. What I'm working on is in some way, I mean, yes, yes, yes, but is it a straight-up Superman sequel? I would not say necessarily. So the big rumor is that it's going to be a Batman- Superman movie. And instead of a BVS, it's like a Batman and Superman more of a world. finest. So I know what you believe they're going to be doing, and I agree with what I think

they're doing. Let's have some fun here. If it is a Batman and Superman movie, do you think that would be a good choice? I personally think, just like I did 10 years ago, Batman should have his own movie first. Like, we've done this, and it felt it was too soon. It is a little bit of a different scenario, though, because we do have a multiversal Batman also ongoing. So it's not like you're introducing, you know, Batman's origin, they didn't even have to do with the Pattinson one. It was like a year one story. We know Batman's origin

so much now, for sure, in recent pop culture, that even new universes aren't doing it. I could see a universe where they want to make sure they establish a different Batman by putting him in a Superman movie first. But that's what they tried to do with Ben Affleck. And I do feel like that hurt the film, because I didn't feel

like tonally it benefited Superman to have a sequel. That wasn't just a Superman sequel. I think Man of Steel 2, would have been nice before BBS. But I also don't feel like Adult Ben Affleck because I would have wanted to Ben Affleck Batman movie more than most things. And we never got it because of the way

the trajectory went. I don't think World's finest makes sense. But I do think that if you're building a universe where everything's already established, the quote came out this week that there's been metahumans for 300 years. If there's been metahumans for 300 years, I could see Batman already being formed

and therefore making that part of the conversation. So it is less daunting than other scenarios. I still would prefer it be my Mr. Terrific pitch because I do think James starts writing like look at the Christmas special like Guardian's Christmas special is clearly a labor of love of discovering Mantis

and wanting to write more with Drax and Mantis. I feel like the way Mr. Terrific has been in the comics the last five years I feel like what James is going to do with Mr. Terrific. I feel like Eddie Gathagi as a man as an actor, as a comic fan

and as a collaborator, that's going to be the sweet spot. So I would still double down and hopefully Mr. Terrific movie. I think you'll have the peacemaker effect. Yeah, exactly. I think that's more... That's spun out of the Suicide Squad.

That's a great parallel. I feel like that's something I'd rather see earlier. I want to see what James Gunn does with Batman, obviously. Like, everyone loves Batman. But I hope it's Mr. Terrific. The part of the marketing that I don't think is truly succeeding is getting people who are newbies or not familiar with excited. Let's just use Mr. Terrific.

I don't feel like it's getting people who don't know who Mr. Terrific is truly excited to see Mr. Terrific, and they don't need to. I think it's conscious. I think they're afraid of showing too many other characters in screen time volume to, I think everyone leading up to the movie is like, there's 85 people in this. I think the trailers have to be 90% Superman, and therefore there's only 10% of other people to share, so there's no backlash. Yeah, I just think there's a lot of, like, promotion around the other characters that

are in there, like you and Andrew talked about all the posters. Yeah. Which I understand, they're releasing all these character posters, but. um i don't i haven't heard much enthusiasm around like oh it's like it's like you got to do that cell with the guardians of the galaxy people don't know who the guardians are but that's the focus of the movie so it's a very different ask uh of what i'm bringing up my point is though that i think after people watch superman they're going to be really excited for more mr terrific just like you know john cina was a cell for peacemaker but no one's really excited for peacemaker and suicide squad

we showed why. Yes. Like you proved at your point. You validated that choice. And I think Mr. Triffick is also something that's going to be kind of, uh,

uh, I'm trying to say this fondly. Um, the world right now needs to value intelligence. Uh, so I think it's a good character for 20, 25, 26,

27. I think Reed Richards and Mr. Terrific both being characters whose superpower is largely intelligence is a good thing for children in an age of burning books and getting rid of education. And these movies all, are, if anything, supposed to be something that inspire us to do better. I can't

learn to fly. I can learn to read better. So I feel like if we're going to encourage kids, Mr. Terrific is a great character for kids to go, that guy invented stuff and he donated it and he wants to make the world better because of his mind. Like Batman, kids want to be Batman because he doesn't have powers. Mr.

Terrific's a smart guy. I think we need Mr. Terrific right now. I think that's why Iron Man works so well. 100%. Yeah. He's a guy that's like, I shouldn't be a warmonger. I should use my billions and also my smarts to build and help. I think that's what we need more. And I feel like Iron Man started a universe because of that. That's why Batman can lead the Justice League because he uses brains.

Exactly. He's thinking so far ahead. And I think Mr. Triffick is going to play that kind of role to the point where it also wouldn't necessarily make sense bringing Batman yet. Because you've got one. You've got a great guy that's doing all smarts. So I mean, I'm biased. And that's where I think Captain America, Brave New World failed. I don't think you need to show, like Sam being able to take on the Red Hulk.

I think if you do show it, show how he used. his intelligence and his strategy and I was because I rewatch Falcon and Winter Soldier in preparation for Thunderbolts and I was wondering why it was on your mind so heavily I loved it I loved it way more on the rewatch and I didn't realize people talk so much about Thunderbolts being about mental health and I'm like well the Falcon and Winter Soldier's like oh this whole phase yeah yeah that show is the focus is about mental health for all three of the main characters in there and there was so many key moments from like that's what makes Sam Captain America But that's what makes Sam.

Did not feel the movie capture. But the movie doesn't capture? And I was thinking, why didn't you just give Sam a team to lead in there? Because, like, you don't, I guess he doesn't have the Super Soldier serum, but he's got the intelligence. He's got the ability to connect with people. He's got a strategy. Exactly. And that's what I want to see these characters get the time to flex and do.

Yeah. And you can't do that in a movie where you're sharing, you know, you're not build. You're in a Super Bowl movie movie. He's going to have awesome moments, but what could have Mr. Terrific movie be? And, and again, I want Batman. but I don't think I think DC Comics is literally named I mean it's detective comics like that's a DC stands for but that's also been a problem for DC because they've been so Batman heavy

I love that I get 12 Batman books a month I love as a comic fan that I could read one where you've got Damien Wayne when we've got Jason Todd one where you've got like Tim Drake he's back when where you've got I love that but I do think that also makes people think oh DC's just Batman I think it would make more sense if you're trying to grow a universe to not do that just like I think it should be Wolverine and the X-Men it should be the X-Men bringing Wolverine later. I think Batman is DC's Wolverine and I think

you hold them back or you put them in the Patinson universe and let that be your Batman for a little bit and then you add a second one. But if it happens, I'm not going to be mad because I love Batman. So like worst case scenario, world's finest, I'm stoked because I get a world's finest and it's an and not a versus and that's what I want to see more. I also think I'm part

of the problem. I'm afraid I started this rumor. I did a thing with David and we literally, David and I were posing and we were like, doing a bunch of superhero poses and at one point we decided to do world's finest and there's literally me describing that moment going and yeah we are like let's do world's finest and a bunch of the fan sites picked up david cornsett says let's do world's finest but they didn't say it was to

some dude want to pose so all the internet was like david cornswit says let's do world's finest and that's not what the quote was it was about a pose so i'm also afraid that people have been like obviously this is the most obvious choice but i'm afraid people have been hearing it more and more and now it's like well i think james guns got his finger on the pulse on exactly what you just said about there's too much of a reliance on him which is kind of weird to say when there's superman is the strongest metahumanist to the god and the and the other face of d like they're two equal faces of dc but there is this kind of overreliance on batman where they've oversaturated batman i think you know with the michael keaton one the patinson one and then they were uh there's like

another one they were doing right there's like a point where i remember if we did one video like here's all the upcoming Batman properties. Yeah. They really rely on Batman too much. I think Wonder Woman before Batman.

I think Holy Trinity but goes Superman one Roman Batman. And I love Batman. Yeah. But I would go that way. I think they need people to crave Batman.

That's why I think the delay of Batman part two is really good because it makes you miss Batman. And there was a point where there was too much Batman. If we come back with

two Batman, one that's very comicy and justicely eccentric and one that's a detective that's doing like rounded stuff, I think that's a benefit to all of us but make us wanted i agree what do you guys think leave your thoughts in the comments below

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stress not the nutrition try huel today for complete nutrition bottled sci-fi extremist he's saying with superman being three years in and the superhero world already existing what's one bit of continuity reference you hope we get in Superman, i.e. the Batman at Gotham still at large. Army pilot Steve Trevor missing. Scientists in Central City survived lightning strike. Do you get where he's going with us? I do. I like these. I know they're going the billionaire route because we've already seen Stagg. We've seen Luther Corps and we've seen Maxwell Lord Lord Tech. We've seen three billionaire like world establishing things. So I think Wayne is almost a shoe in whether or not we, you hero of anything with the Batman, I think Wayne Tech is going to be a piece because it feels important to the world they're building out.

I would love, and I don't know if they'll do it, but I think it'd be really cool since heroes have been around so long if they do a Hal Jordan younger movie down the line, and they reference Hal Jordan's adventures leading up to. So, like, we get Guy Gardner, but I'd love if Hal Jordan's already established because he's Kyle Chandler's. Yeah, like, how cool it would be to do an 80s Hal Jordan movie, like with like a de-aged Kyle Chandler or something, like with bookends of the modern one. but like I'd love to I'd love some of the characters we're going to introduce as older with reference to their legacy I think if you're doing a 300 year thing how cool would it be if Wonder Woman's been around 300 years you know they did that with 84 but like they could go so much more godlike

and powerful so I would establish that some of these characters have been around for a really long time and I would do how I would have Wonder Woman so those kind of references I think it'd be cool to do booster gold as a time traveler because he's a time traveler like he comes back I would also love an early to mid-80s booster gold movie where he's from our day but he time travels and like he's basically a ticotker in that age like he's like a showboat but in the 80s it's like broad shoulders and like being cool but his technology is like you know are modern but back then that'd be crazy so i would

play with the 300 year thing with time and and lace in these little easter eggs so that you're world building but don't make it too much of a weight on superman make it something that you could explore in a later movie but you don't have to i think he already did that with creature commandos 100%. I mean, he started off with the people of them askear or something. I need to really watch the show.

I already forgot how most of it goes, but they had the Batman little shadowed obscure to cameo. Yeah, a villain whose origin is very much deeply seated in there and then had a clay face show up. Yeah, who's going to get his own thing?

And we also had, I mean, the tie-in between Rick Flagg and his son established and Rick Flagg is everywhere. Like, we're getting Rick Flagg and everything going forward, like that we know of. Like, Peacemaker, he's out.

Superman, he's out. He's already been in Cruacher Commandos. Do you think they're going to try to keep anything from the DC EU still existing because I know they've had the thing with Amanda Waller and yeah we have. The peacemaker trailer. They had two peacemakers. So yeah,

the theory is that it's like a multiverse thing that's going to... I think ironically Marvel is going to end their multiverse stuff because it got too heavy. I think DC is going to be able to do let's look what worked and launch from messy multivers. Like I think peacemaker is going to somehow utilize a

multiverse thing. But I haven't seen it yet, but I mean the trailer implies it heavily enough that I can see that being a factor. And do you want any specific hints of other superheroes in the Superman movie like what he's talking about? The way, you know, I think... Booster gold. Didn't a... Some type of booster gold reference?

Yeah, because I feel like he is so topical. I feel like the movies about like heroes that have already been established and also they seem to be working for billionaires. Booster gold being a hero that does stuff for likes is the most James Gun topical. Like, it feels so right for right now. So I would love if he gets it like a

mention before we meet him. I feel like if you're going to world build, I don't want too many heroes. We've already got enough and maybe like more we don't know about so we get surprises. But I don't want there to be like a Justice League that is fully formed waiting to it announced. You know, that'd feel like a lot. Very true. I mean, that would be the mistake of the last DC iteration.

I don't think they've learned from that. Let's hope so. And Constantine. You want a Constantine reference? I want Constantine so bad. Did you like the Keanu Reeves one? I like it as an else world. Actually, this is going to make and upset the same people. They're going to make it happy and upset them. The way I feel about Man of Steel, I think it is an exceptional version of the character that isn't how I see the character.

I think it's a well-made movie. I think it's a Superman, but it's not how I see Superman. I feel the exact same way about Constantine. I think it's an exceptional take. I think it's awesome. It's exciting. That's not the character to me. I love Keanu Reeves.

I have worked with the man out of sheer admiration and like willpower. I will that to exist. I love the dude. But the way I see the character is not that. So it's kind of like Man of Steel where it's like I'd love to see a comic accurate. one now. And we can have both because of the way the multiverse works. So if they're going to do a Constantine 2, I'd love for you to call that Constantine 2, but give me a Hellblazer. I would love a Hellblazer thing that actually feels like a British guy that you would not want to

run into in a pub that kind of smells, but he's charming in his own way. Like, I want a scuzzy dude to be him. And Keanu's just, it's Keanu, so you love the guy. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean, like, it's, he's too likable. I enjoy that Constantine movie a lot while also acknowledging it is not, like, comic, accurate comics. You can have both, right? Like, that's, I think how I feel. Yeah, I think there's a really fun movie.

And he was in the DC shows. And he had his in DC show for a little bit. Or was it like an NBC show that he came to the DC universe. Is that what they did? He came over when there was a merger. Like, because. That was accurate. That guy was great.

And he did the voice for a while. Matt Ryan, I think she's name. But, like, I think Keanu's friend Norman Redis is. closer. Like, I want a guy that's a little greased here and a little like, why did that girl just sleep with that guy? Like, I want the guy to be like, I don't trust him, but we need him. And Keanu Reeves is Keanu. He's the one. I trust James Gunn to take notes in a way that reminds me of like Quentin Tarantino. As a fan of Quinn and Tarantino, a lot of times he'll have these movies that he says he, that he loves, but people really don't like. I remember

one time there was a year of his favorite movies in the year and he put the Lone Ranger on when everyone hated the Lone Ranger of that year. And he often does that. He'll love a lot of things that a lot of people don't. In fact, so much of his earmarks and films like Kill Bill are from movies that are considered schlocky or cheesy B-movie grindhouse. You know, he clearly embraces that, but then somehow he manages to make an amazingly audience critic, well-received film.

James Gunn really loved The Flash, and I feel like that was genuine. A lot of people don't. And there's a lot of weird multiverse stuff in there. And there's like that whole Superman thing at the end where you were all the cameos at the end. It was really bizarre. And I think he really did love that experience and movie and consider it one of the greatest comic book movies.

Those were his words. And I see him as the kind of person who can mine what he loves from that and make something that more people will actually love. Yeah. Yeah. He's a trauma guy. Like he's a guy that came from like that kind of film. Like Grind House and Troma

Remind me a lot of each other So when you're talking about Potentially doing some multiverse stuff That might sound fatigue like Or exhausting for people Didn't they just do that I think James Gun would be able to do it in a way That is accessible and people like

Yeah, it came up with the like the Infinity Stone Movie version in like an afternoon He did people forget that Like on a whim like he's like oh let's just do this And like now it's the basis of the MCU Yeah All right we got Ken Karkin here And saying are there any alternate costumes

you would want to see in the future for Superman. I personally would love to see that all-white mask one from All-Star Superman, also perhaps finally seeing Superman wearing Batman's costume. People want the Superman and Batman, toe to toe. Yeah, I would like that Superman outfit where the big white suit one that he can battle, combat like people with kryptonite. That way it makes him impervious to kryptonite. I like the all-black suit for the like recharge, like after you've been like

because it literally like solar powered the sun, all that stuff. So I like the all white. I like the all black. I'd love to get the mullet. That's my big wish list. I want Superman mullet. It's a majestic hair. And we've never seen it in live action,

except like Dean Kane, I think. But I want Super Mollett real bad. So I don't know if that's a costume, but that's my dream. You think we could pull it off? I think that David Korn Sweat is jarringly handsome. And I think it takes someone that is so good looking that you're like, I think I could do that haircut because he did.

And then you do it. And you're like, I look awful. I think he's that kind of handsome. Like Brad Pitt, so many people try to dress like Tyler Durdon and like shave their head or do Tyler Darden haircuts, no one should. But Brad Pitt pulls it. I think corn sweats that kind of guy. I think he could pull a mullet. All right, all right.

But it's a short list. And also the mullet's back. So all the kids are doing it. Okay. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Another question that we got here is limited stressed. If D.C. decided to adapt crisis on infinite Earths with this new universe down the line, would you prefer the introduce new versions of multiversal characters to have complete narrative freedom.

Or would you prefer they bring back characters from previously established DC properties but specific actors? What's your preference? I think they shouldn't touch this for like a decade. But when they do. But when they do, both. I think you need the reliance on your association. The beautiful thing about multiverse is when you bring in a character from a known universe, all of your memory and association with them is attached no matter whether you wanted to be

not. That's my concern with Downey, but the benefit of Andrew Garfield. I didn't need to have seen Andrew Garfield in the last 15 years of Spider-Man because I love the character enough that when he became the Uncle Ben type character, it was very plug-in-play. It was like someone like... But he wasn't playing Uncle Ben. No, but he was filling in that. He was playing a mentor role. Yeah, he was playing a father figure that would have had experience in instead of Peter Parker life, Spider-Ban life. And so both in this case. But like, that wouldn't have worked if we hadn't had Andrew Garfield in his movies. And it wouldn't have worked without Toby in his movies. So I think there is a need for full arcs in order to have the

excitement of like, oh, this character and this character. But I also think you've got a three hour runtime. So you do need reliance on other films for that. Now, I think that is often misquoted as nostalgia. It's not nostalgia unless it doesn't serve a narrative purpose. Nostalgia is like people misquoting cameo. Like a cameo is a quick moment. Supporting characters are different. Deadpool wasn't full of cameos. It was full of cameos and supporting characters. I think nostalgia isn't just using a character from a past movie if they've actually got a journey and a purpose. So as long as you use those characters in multiversal stuff

in a well-written way like Wesley Snipes or like Andrew Garfield, then that is a purpose to have like five Batman. But you could also have Robert Pattinson, whoever they cast, and a couple of the old ones, and have it not feel bloated because you don't need to use the screen time. Yeah. So I do both because I'm greedy. And that's the point of the multiverse thing, is to be greedy.

I don't feel like it's fun unless, It is a, this is the thing is, I don't, I think it needs to be littered with people were familiar with. I think it kind of has to be. Like, if they did a flash one, I would want to see Grant Guston appear. 100%. But like, Henry Cavill as Wolverine worked because that was a moment where we're like, if we didn't know Harry Cavill always be like, what is that guy?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like you need both. That's what you're saying. Okay, I get what you're saying like that, yeah. Because I would, I mean, I loved all the Wolverines we met that were Hugh Jackman. We get this one little pop of it. Why is it special? so I think you need an association with the actor as well as new ones

okay well I think we're talking variance versus characters though right like I think a variant is a very different type of conversation versus if we've never let's say we're open up Christ on Infinite Earth and let's say at this point we've never seen I don't know a nightwing yet let's say we haven't seen a nightwing yet that's where I think you could get a new person to play him but if you're bringing in, let's say, but let's also say, like, you haven't seen Wonder Woman yet in the DC universe. I feel like if you're going to the Multiverse, people will want to see Gal Godot. If you're going to the multiverse. I agree. Yeah. It all depends on the association. And I think Peacemaker

might deal with that, right? Because, like, he clearly, there's two of them in the trailer, so that'll be an effect. Speaking of which, we have a Wonder Woman new movie being developed. Yeah. Who do you think could be the new Wonder Woman? Andrea Arhonia. Yes, that is my pick. Yeah. She's so good. She is brilliant. She is such a brilliant actress. Andor showed her acting chops, even more than everything else already has. She was already good in everything.

But I worked there in the Morbius press tour, and I saw how much she cares about fandom, and that was for Morbius. Say what you all about Morbius, Sony toured that movie, and those actors went and played. She talked to everyone. She took her time.

She really cared about the fandom. She's also someone who, like, interacts with fans, which I think is really beautiful, and I think you need that if you're going to play a character like Wonder Woman. She inspires little girls and little boys and grown girls and grown boys.

Like you need someone that's going to connect to people and not be at a con or like at a red carpet. Like, I'm not going to talk to you. I think it just happens to be a benefit, the Mamoa of it all. But like, I think she's great. I don't know how to say this. I'm going to try and fail. Let's go for that. Is that she's really good at not pissing people off.

Like she can play the way how there's like some actors, I'm like, they're willing to play men. And she's like, she's willing to play women and strong women without, like, taking down men, you know? Yeah, there was no woke. That's part of the conversation, I think, with, with Andor, when it came to the, a big, there was a big, you know, controversial debate about the assault moment in there. And I thought the way she handled it was so wonderfully done. I was like, damn, that's how you do it. And that's how you nail it. And I bought it.

Yeah. Yeah. And you're right. The way she interacts with fans, I think is really great. John and I did, before Andrew came out, we were part of, we did some Zoom interviews. And I remember specific, I forget how most of my interviews in person and Zoom have gone down. But I really remember the time with her because she was taking all this extra time with us and asking a detail. The interviewer had to cut her off because she was having such a good time talking.

And she made, as an interviewee, she made, no, as the interviewer made us feel very special. Yeah. And I'm like, wow, how don't you do that with like people then? She's also very committed to that moment of feeling special and and keeping it. Like, it's not an act. I was at the Twisters premiere and she was there to support Glenn. And while I was there, I was waiting on the side. And she came over and said hi to me and talked about something we had talked about at Morbius. And that had been like a year. So like it's not special just to you. And she's like, I'm doing a thing being charming. She's actually invested because I didn't like I wouldn't have remembered that. And I think she noticed how to deal with serious subject matter. in a way that feels genuine and not that she's reiterating talking points. And that is kind of hard to find when actors, the more they grow will become so PR-trained or they're so self-conscious about what are they going to say that's going to get them in trouble. And it's so hard to navigate. I feel sorry for actors in that regard because it's so difficult to navigate because it's one thing when Tom Cruise has asked about a tariff situation.

It's like, let's just focus on the movie. And everyone's like, praise God for Tom Cruise. Like, that's an easy one. But when you do a movie or a show where it's part of the subject in that piece of art they are promoting, they have to be able to talk about it in some way. And she's really good at navigating that. So I feel like she can, she's able to portray femininity. She's able to portray strength. I think she's super bad.

Oh, my God. I fucking rolling on that director you love. Richard Linklater? Yeah. Hit me. Hit me. That's why she was a twister. Yeah.

So good. She's so captivating, dude. was amazing in that movie. And she also, and Wonder Woman needs all of that because it is inherently going to deal with subject matter that it's going to piss off some people. So you need an actor. I'm agreeing with you. And I was just

going to elaborate that it's an island of women without men and it's discovering the world of men. So a lot of men get very uncomfortable about that concept, like just in general. And it's also a character that's evolved over almost 100 years because it was written like S&M light. Like she gets tied up and bound and that's tied

into some of her powers. Like she's outgrown her origins, it's not, not. That sounds like my Wonder Woman. If you look into the origin of Wonder Woman Wow, wow, wow, wow, but the wow, wow, wow. The character's grown, I'll tell you that much. If you look into the origin of my moment, it's gone backwards. Yeah, way to regress into having your own ideas, woman in the kitchen. Can we get

that spandex even further into the cheeks, please? Go back to the island of Wimian. That's not low enough. But yeah, I think it's a character where you need to have those conversations or regresses back to a woman in tights with a bondage. I just really feels Steve Trevor should have

his Don Juan DeMarco's movie he just shows up and he's getting laid left in her

Tom Selleck as Steve Treet James Guns Wonder War but Audrey I hono would be great

yeah she'd be great in that Wonder Woman movie too both pitches all right

that's fun what do we else we got here a head shake from Jasmine off screen

I defended women I did my best. I said you could be in here, Jasmine. You cannot disagree with anything we say. Those are the rules. Greg has a very strong scene and not heard rule. Daffmer asking an interesting question here.

Hello, Greg Coy and John. I hope you're all having a wonderful day. With D.C. is starting to kick off their movies, and many of them before being very earth-based, are there any locations you hope they would premiere on the big screen that we have not seen yet? It seems like Superman's going to do that, or some type of weird Minecraft world.

I love to see a movie based around Scott Free escaping apocalypse of Barta or Superman discovering the phantom zone or traveling in space to different planets. That's a very big likelihood. I think you've got to get generals odd in the phantom zone. That's like a cliche of Superman. That's an honor.

Supergirl takes place all over the cosmos. Our next movie. Yeah. And to wrap up as common, a Superman that's more aware of his symbol on a galactic level could be a cool approach to this new iteration of him and how his presence is noticed on a grander scale, like how they did in Snyder's Justice League.

We saw lots of spaceship stuff in this new trailer, and we saw a cosmic moment, like, or two. And my man again loves the cosmic. He does. I mean, Guardians is not terrestrial for the most part. They wanted him to run the cosmic side of Marvel for a while. That was the original, like, kind of, and also you'll notice after Guardians,

Marvel was like, well, that's good. They went very cosmic. So I feel like that's what he wants to do. I think that Lanterns is going to start terrestrial and then can go to space. I think, you know, space cops. I think Supergirl is a space opera. Like, the movie itself is globe hopping globes.

Like, it's going to go all over different places. Lobo is so that. All of this. Like, the painting we've gotten so far is more cosmic than terrestrial. But I think it's smart to have your first two things. Three, if you've got Peacemaker. Yeah, Peacemaker's three. Superman Peaceemaker lanterns starting grounded and then expanding out so we can kind of get a grasp.

and then you can go crazy cosmic because that's D.C. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Thanks for the question. Noah Beltran's asking, as Marvel ramps up for Doomsday and D.C. kicks off with Superman, do you all believe there's a real chance of a true equal clash of high-quality projects between the two that consumers can only benefit from? 100% exactly those words. I think we only benefit when both are doing well.

I think competition is how you get great. Do you think we only benefit when both are doing well? I think if one starts to dip, then it becomes like, It becomes, oh, man, say DC is glorious and Marvel puts out, um, a bunch of love and thunders, then it's going to be a conversation of like, oh, it's DC's time. Too bad. Marvel dropped the ball in like, uh, conversations of DC being superior because Marvel's not there to compete or Marvel not competing because DC took over.

But if they're both doing well, then it becomes a conversation of like, man, it was crazy in the fall. We had this. And then we have this. And then the box office comes back and people actually go to the theater for multiple. like the tent pole tent poles are keeping the mini films open like anytime scorsesey says anything about these things killing cinema it kills me because i love martin scorsese but these are how the theaters stay open if we have two movies a year do well and that's it say dc puts out two to three

movies a year that's only going to do so much if we have three marvel movies and three dc movies do well that's six guaranteed giant oomps that keep the rest of the things lit i think it only benefits And it also makes for competition. Like you'll hire even better writers. You'll give your visual effects team a little longer. You're in competition for the best actors. When you have sports teams do well, there's competition. It's at the Olympics.

Once someone beats a record, it's crazy how like suddenly everyone's beating that record. But until you see the opportunity, you think it's impossible. I think these both are going to change the landscape because they're both going to be exceptional. That's why I've been bringing up Tom Cruise for the way he promotes the industry as a whole, the community of cinema as a whole. than a real, and I've been really more in tune with it because I know someone who, I know a person who was the runner up to direct the karate kid, the new karate kid movie that came out.

It was like down to him and I think the guy who actually directed it. And of course he didn't get the movie. And when it was getting bad early word of mouth, I was like, ha ha ha ha ha, you're not texting him. And then as you're talking, he's like, well, I hope it does do well for the whole of the industry. And I was like,

oh you're right I didn't even like think about that I was like ah this would be fun to rag on it because it's doing that absolute comics are helping Marvel comics but it did it did flip my mentality and I was realizing oh I was doing it on a small scale with karate kid but now imagine

on a big scale for something like Marvel and DC yeah and I think Tom Cruise has really been making as championing of the film like the savior of cinema I thought it was kind of like funny at first the way he was being the poster boy for that with like Top Gun Maverick doing well and such.

But it's so much more than him doing a Topka Maverick or a Mission Impossible. It is the way he is trying to unify as a whole on all threads. And you're right. I think with DC and Marvel, it brings me exactly the exact pinpoint, I think is when BVS and Civil War came out,

how they were very similar in topics, even in the types of film they were trying to achieve at the time. And then Batman v. Superman was really not well received whatsoever and Civil War was really praised and it became

exactly what you said and that's what I don't want yeah and I also think like absolute comics are doing amazing but people going I haven't read any of those

but they're constantly promoted to me because they're so good they are good they are worth reading I'm ready of them yet Absolute Martian Man Hunter is only an issue three

and it rocked me so much it might be my favorite now absolute Batman is everyone's favorite it's Batman it's awesome it's exciting it's big and crazy Wonder Woman is the biggest swing I think because instead of being from paradise

she's from hell So instead of Paradise Island, she was raised in hell with demons. So it's this really metal, awesome take on Wonder Woman. So the idea is Absolute Comics are another take, but they change one major thing. Batman doesn't have billions. Batman's a working class guy. He's a blue-collar Batman. And he's friends with a lot of the villains, which is interesting.

Like, he knows the guys. So anyway, the Absolute Comics are all doing well, and all of those comics bring people to comic stores. I've talked to a number of comic store owners that said their Marvel books are doing better because the DC books are bringing people in. and then the average consumer doesn't go, oh, Spider-Man, but I'm buying absolute Batman. They go, oh, cool, Spider-Man comic. It only helps when they all do better.

And if people are busy commenting on our videos going like, superhero movies are for kids or they're so done or Ha-ha, Marvel's dead, that's not helping anyone. But if DC and Marvel both do well, then it's, oh, man, we're back. I'm so excited to see these movies together. So I think art doing well always benefits art.

I think art doing poorly is always bad for art. I agree. Good points all around as per usual, coy. And let's get another couple more in here. Okay. Last two. Matthew. In a recent

deadline article, Laura LeFrank said there were in early stages of other spinoffs of the Batman universe. Who would you like to see her bring to life on the small screen? Catwoman. A show? Zoe Kravitz and everything always. You would like the way they did Penguin? Um, yeah, I mean, I think her character's so rich. I think we only got a taste of her in The Batman. I think much like The Batman, it'd be great to see a character we have met. So there's an investment. You do need the business side of like, oh, I'm excited. Catwoman's a great sell. Uh, I think Zoe Kravitz did a very slept on high fidelity show. I'll never forgive you, Hulu. Um, that didn't get enough viewership. But I feel like she's, especially at the studio and stuff, she's kind of found her footing. Like, I feel like she's much more known than five years ago. And I think that's a cool opportunity. She's the sister of the. Exactly. So it.

You've got all the lord Calcone. Sophia. But yeah, there's that lore. You've got that teased at the end of the penguin with the character. We've got the family struggle there. If you want to do something in budget, you want things more grounded. Catwoman doesn't

have powers, and she's tied into the crime element of Gotham so you could grow your Gotham out. So I would, if we're dealing with Matt Reeves universe, I want crime to be a character, I want Gotham to be a character, I want it to be within budget. Catwoman's all those things. So I would want a Zoe Cravitt show out of selfishness and storytelling.

You know what I want out of selfishness is not really answering the question directly. After watching the actor on actors, we call them Farrell and Danny DeVito, I'm like, if they could do some magical, he said he wanted to what he was doing it. That was such a weird conversation. I thought it was an amazing. I was like, I didn't know these two, like, had chemistry. I had no idea the way. They're the constant talk over each other and the way they can interrupt and listen to

each other. And sometimes there's, like, there's one. point I remember where Danny DeVito kept on talking while Colin Farrell kept interrupt, like, but he wasn't letting him interrupting each other. Yeah, but then Danny DeVito once in a while, like, take a second to answer. I'm like, wow, they really get a lot.

Yeah. And I did not like Dumbo, but I'm happy for it because of their I didn't even remember. Because of their French. It's worth it for that conversation. Yeah, and the fact that Colin Farrell was such a fan of the Penguin growing up, like, I've been fortunate to run into Colin Farrell a few times in professional settings and he before he was in the Batman was a Batman fan so I've talked to him about Batman and I remember him being so excited about like what the Batman world was growing and all the stuff and then to have him become Penguin and then to see him with Penguin and his

childhood penguin I know he's such a Batman fan that inside I was like I can't imagine being an actor to Colin Farrell's level and then getting to sit down with someone as a peer that was also a childhood idol that'd be like so surreal to be like this is an act I don't know I was I was so happy for both the dudes. Well, if I were to go off into the Batman universe, I would, I was actually really excited about the Arkham Asylum show. I think you could do something that's really psychologically crazy with that. We got some teases of it, but in, uh, in Penguin, but that was more like a real, like

bad psych hospital. I want something that feels a little bit more heightened, which I know is not the Matt Reeves universe, but from what. what some things of what Matt Reeves has said, it seems like he's willing to teeter a little bit. Yeah, then you could push the limits up. Like a Hugo Strange, if he's one of the main characters in there.

Let's say he's like the central villain of the Arkham Asylum Show for whoever we're following inside of as the main patient. I think it would be pretty cool. I'd like that was talk of GCPD and Arkham and then that became Arkham, but I'd love something where it's like a commentary on the two madhouses

and one of them is the police station, one of them's the actual madhouse and like the inner turmoil of both because all those cops are crooked and then like the prisoners and stuff. I'd love like a parallel show. I mean, my dream Batman scenario would be that you build up the bad family and then you end the Batman villains and then you end with a Batman Arkham Asylum movie. Incredible.

Because the Arkham Asylum comic is a classic. You do like 10 movies later. Instead of you kind of expand upon it. So that way it becomes like the final movie is really a psychological deconstruction of Batman and Bruce Wayne as he can fade and see what each villain represents. I've always talked about the psychology thing that that I want to see on screen. We'd have to get there. It'll be like a 10 movie, maybe shows and movies to get there. A thousand percent.

But I want it. It would be cool. And plus there'd be some sweet action and batterings. Yeah. And grappling hooks and Alfred in his ear. Yeah. Who would definitely still be alive. 100%.

He's alive for this. He's just so old. I want poison ivy. A frail man in the back game is. Master Bruce. Let me retire. Please. I'll just make a sandwich.

I'm so old. I'm just so tired. Am I six was 80 years ago. But that's that poison ivy I want in the James Gun universe because I want a very comicy poison ivy and i and i feel like we're due um i wouldn't want to show of her in the matt reeves verse i'd love a show or movie of her in the james gunnverse thousand thousand percent well that's it for the questions here whole dc roundup big one i think superman is going to dominate marvel it think it's going to defeat marvel it's going to beat all this talk of unity

just away that's why pedro is sharing that shit he's like oh i need to make friends i need a i need a need to like you know really uh what's what's the word what's the god's yeah i need to be an opportunist right now you know when i think of sweetheart pager pascal i think opportunist it's all an act it's bound to happen oh he's such a sweet he's too sweet we're bound to get the youtube videos about how fake it is and how insincere we just need one celebrity to come out or not even like a real celebrity someone who's like a bit on a show or some shit with him from forever ago to say one thing And then before you know it, we're going to get a snowball effect of how awful he is. I think he's our new Keanu.

I think he's the new angel boy. No, there's two people who are untouchable. Conan and Keanu. Pedro is not going to be the third. Keanu is not going to be the third. Audience, is there someone else we're forgetting? I feel like there are other, like, beloved by all people. But those are definitely the two, Conan and Keanu.

There's got to be more, though. Are there? No. Mr. Rogers, but he's gone now. Are there? No. Just that's it. Just that, man.

Just that. Just that. I just wanted to end this with a couple of just random questions then. They have nothing to do what we've been talking about. Game Night, J-1-4. First things first, happy birthday, John. Correct. Hey, thank you, game night.

I'm wishing all of you guys a great day. Second thing, second. How do you guys feel about the resurgence of spoof movies in the near future? The Naked Gun Requel, Scary Movie 6, and Spaceballs 2, which was announced today. Are you looking forward to or dreading the effects this may have on movies in general? Do you want to go first? I think it's a benefit

I think that we need levity I think that those movies have a huge audience I think that if they're good they bring out a wide array of people like it's not for just one type of person they bring out a lot of people I worked at the movie theater for scary movie three and four

maybe even two I was in a movie theater for a long time and they were always giant audiences and they buy concessions like it's a crowd pleaser movie and we need more of those to keep the theaters open for smaller films so I think it's a great thing

and I would love don't be a minister central we're drinking juice in the hood too. I'm going to say something that's cynical that I don't really feel is that it would be if I didn't reveal that it would be the greatest thing ever that it sounds sort of like they are becoming the thing that the that these spoof movies are making fun of in a way because the fact that they're doing they're not creating a it's like a nostalgia for spoof movies it's kind of bizarre it is interesting

it's they're not doing some new category of spoof movies like the last time i think that happened was the marlin wands ones right the haunted mansions the those were like found footage i think you're right haunted house yeah people associated them with scary movie but that i think was the last time we we did that and superhero movie didn't do well it was too soon and it wasn't as good um but i think i the the cool thing is though about bringing this stuff back Scary movie six definitely has stuff they could do. The way horror has become so prolific. They could do a Blumhouse one.

Just Blum. Yeah, you know, have Megan throw up or dance and get kicked in the garage. The problem with Megan is it's already so pimpy, how to spoof it. You know, some shit like that. Spaceballs, too, well, what Star Wars has devolved into. And Spaceballs talk so much more than just Star Wars. It was a commentary on the industry. At the time, yeah.

And apparently there's some teaser that came out that I have not seen. It's like a crawl text. It's like two minutes long. I haven't seen it. There's also a Kung Fury, too, which was a commentary on those things. It's not like Shell. Didn't they make it, but it hasn't been released? I thought that was one of those cases.

I just saw a frame of Michael Fastbender and I was like, please. It's all I know. I thought they made that a long time ago, but they've been some rights issue. I feel like that's a spoof adjacent, right? That's like a commentary film. Whereas naked gun requal feels like what Seth McFarlan wanted to do because cop movies are not a thing. Not as much.

Like what naked gun is so specific and it was such a product of its time. It's great. It's great, though. Like, yeah, I imagine they did like an airplane. Like, why? Yeah. But Naked Gun, I think, is going to be a commentary on the time, not the genre. I agree.

Yeah, which is very Seth MacFarlane. Yeah. Like, Fletch should have done better. Did you see the John Ham Fletch movie? No. They tried to bring that, like, Fletch tone back, and no one saw it. But I saw the Naked Gun trailer in the theaters, and it, there was one moment that, the OJ moment, got a big laugh at him. And the whole crowd, it's a really good buddy.

It's a good audience thing. though. I think those kind of movies are good for audiences. Absolutely. Hopefully people like it. Liam Neeson's so funny. So funny. That's my favorite scene with Ted 2. That's actually the only scene I remember

from Ted 2 is when he's mind and the lucky charm. That was such a funny moment. I love Ted 1, but Ted 2 wasn't it for me. Michelle R. Happyest birthday wishes to you, John. Thank you, Michelle. If you can make one horror movie birthday wish and it would come true what would it be hope that whatever wish you do when you

blow out your birthday candle comes true john you want to sit here a horror movie birthday wish uh i guess i would have to wish something from a close this out john john we're get on camera i would wish to be oh i see what you come over i see what you mean if you're going to monkey pause we got to see you close this out john yeah this john rap birthday boy tell me a story all right Right. Horror movie wish. I mean, I feel like that's a really loaded prospect because, you know, if you wish for, yeah, like, what are you going to wish for? It's not going to end in imminent misfortune. I would say, because I think it might have factored into the goosebumps movie. You get like the typewriter that, like, creates whatever you type. Nice. The thing I would wish to be real so that I could type. Okay. You know, like, you got to be careful because it's still a bit of a. monkeys pa but you could also i feel like use that for not terror and and and awfulness okay i feel

like that's a very useful tool i feel it's very altruistic until it's not or i wish to try the barbecue from the texas chainsaw massacre oh is that human i could be and i need to test it to find out basically yeah because i was like wait a second those lips how about sinners i want to be in the garlic scene that's my wish because i would win that test i was like give me the jar i'll take the whole thing. Oh, I like that version of it. I didn't think of that, like, put yourself in a movie and what's your wish? I like that more than like a Stephen King thing. I'd want Haley Steinfeld to

spit in my mouth. That is the wish. When you paused on the S for spit, I was like, this can go five ways. None of them are appropriate. And that was maybe my favorite. That was a great landing. I was going to say. Spit in my mouth. I don't disagree.

Let's see. I want to have one too. A horror movie. I want Ooh, I would love to spend a day in the school from the faculty. Yeah, good call. I want to live in Vasion of the Body Stature's 90s high school. It would solve my nostalgia and also it would be fun to like John Stewart as a teacher that's also an alien. And then you could pass the tweaker test. Yeah.

And get your pen. Trudanada Brewster. That's a great question. What about G? Do you have one? Do you have a horror movie wish? You're a horror movie head. He already Haley Steinfeld.

Yeah, he got the spit. He gave us the best one. That's for me. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you guys. Thank you for all the birthday wishes from you guys chiming in out there in the ether as well. Appreciate you all. I'm going to surrender the mic now and go back to obscurity. All right, happy birthday, John. Thanks for being here. The podcast is done. Bye.