The Reel Rejects - DEXTER SEASON 1 Episodes 5, 6, 7, & 8 REVIEW!!

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

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So we appreciate it. What do we have, John, do we have any, anything? Did anyone Craigslist write us? Yeah, where's our Frozen Barbie and Ken? And Ken? Frozen Barbie and Ken commentary. All righty. Let's go.

Oh, we do have some questions. Look at that. Emma. Oh, dang. Emma is on it. Let's go. Let's go. All right. So we got, who we got? You read them off. You're in control here.

All right. We are going to, let's start at the bottom and work our way to the top. Okay. Just like hitting, you work from the bottom up. Actually, let's see, let's see. Let's see. Okay. Let's start with Emma. Emma. I'm working through this in real time. I feel like it's, let's start with some show. some episodes specific

and then we'll go a little bit more broad I'm formulating this in real time so Emma thank you for stoking the fires of all of our Dexter Convo's thus far what do you guys think of the supporting cast so far who's your favorite and least favorite

character who do you want to see more of or learn more about excellent question in regards to the supporting cast I love it I love their interactions I think there's really a rapport and a family dynamic in regards to when i say family i just mean like that work around and you know when you work together you really the more you feel tight-knitted and like a family it just

feels more comfortable and like you have that history so i feel like this team really has that you know from like the dirty sense of humor that the forensic guy has and just like how dokes sees so beyond the facade of of dexter just i love the rapport but and then also how The lieutenant also loves to flirt with Dexter. I just, I love the rapport between all of them. And even Dexter and Deb. I just, I love it all. Who is my favorite and who's my least favorite?

I would say least favorite is definitely the captain now, which is interesting because I love how the show at first. I did like how the lieutenant was flirting with Dexter, but I hated how dismissive and not giving credit towards Deb she was. But then, as I mentioned you, you know, karma, what, you know, comes around, goes around. That's then what happened to her in regards to the captain. That's why I really do believe in karma.

But then with the captain, I really liked him at first. Yeah, you think he's actually an all right guy. And they've been able to flip that. So I think, like, writing-wise, it's been such a fascinating revelation that they've been able to make me not like a character and then really like a character and then seeing, like, her softer compassionate side with having that kids back and wanting to adopt him before his uncle Roberto. came back or Tito, whatever his name was

I bought. Tio Roberto. Thank you. But, yeah, I would say in terms of not favorite, the captain has probably moved on the list. In terms of favorite? You mean, yeah, you mean like the guy above LaGuarda. Yeah, I like Liguerta a lot now. Yeah, I like it. In terms of who's my

favorite, I guess it has to be Deb. I think there's so much nuance and depth to her and there's a lot of emptiness that she feels as well. Yeah, she's great. Yeah, she's a phenomenal character. I definitely want to continue knowing more about her, but I'd also love to get...

I want to get to know all of them a lot more, and I think that the show really does a good job of striking that balance, but I think dokes. I really want to get to know him a lot more, too. He really is a great character. Yeah. And his performance is really good,

because for the first time you meet him, you're like, whoa, what does this dude's deal? And the more you spend time with him, the more his mannerisms make sense and feel like of like an actual guy Yeah for sure as like Just to your point

Like Excuse me As we just like Just finding out again That that revelation That dokes and Lieutenant Guerta That they were

We knew they were partners But like how she got the The promotion And then he And he had to stay in the ranks Was because it was his bust It was his tip And then she was just in the right spot

At the right time And they made a pact And never say anything about it And it was just more in the police report and all but like again you understand though his gruffy like nature like a lot has to do with like stuff like that but and also like the household and stuff like that so he's kind of a little bit he's kind of like a lonely character in his own right as well so there's just so much again there's a lot of depth of these characters that you want to get like they give you little teases of and they do give you a little bit of time but they kind of also like I I feel like they're going to give us that more in later seasons. I have a feeling. Yeah, for sure.

It's hard to pick because especially up till this point now, you know, we're eight episodes in, and I really love the ensemble. It's like it's hard to choose a character I don't like, and it's hard to choose, or at least don't enjoy watching. And I think to cop out right up top, I would agree with you. Like the captain, the guy who's above, who LaGuerreta keeps having an answer to, and who was giving this guise of mentorship and is proving himself to be, you know,

mostly just an opportunist, taking credit for other people's work. Like, you know, from what we've seen of LaGuerta, you know, she is learning and growing a lot. And I really love, like, I've become more endeared to the whole ensemble, you know, kind of from the get-go. Like, they set everybody up. And in the first episode, you have this idea of, like,

who you're going to like and who you're not going to like. And from that point on, I have grown. to really enjoy and I've grown affinity for almost everybody see I would say him favorite characters tough because again like I've really grown to like I love watching Dokes and Rita and seeing

him open up Rita is is terrific and I love the journey that she has been like I worry for her because obviously Paul and Dexter you know as much as Dexter is so great to her in so many ways Paul is my favorite character guys I really relate to this guy I want her to give him a chance

uh no uh i feel like my heart of hearts because yeah like deb terrific uh and her and dokes going to that family dinner was i loved that that was great um and you know seeing him at home was really fun and funny and seeing him in a situation where he is not in command uh was really fun uh yeah that's a good point yeah and la guerta like i really like the growth that she's been going through and all that stuff with um with oscar the little boy was really endearing Like, they're so great at developing their ensemble. I got to say, my heart of hearts still says Angel. I just, I frigid love him.

He's great. Like, that whole thing with his daughter and with the key of hearts. And he's really, and again, I'm assuming it was adultery, but we don't officially know, right? They haven't really kind of told us, but I'm guessing that's what it was. But whatever the case is, there's clearly there's an issue with him and the wife. And, yeah, I think he's a wonderful character. too. And I love to this this confusion between

him and texture. We're text just like, why does he think we're so close and we're friends? I think that's a fun bit too. I'll be your friend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and too, yeah, he really does have this lovely, like, you root for them to actually be friends because he just has this wonderful aura. He's

good at his job, but he is one of the more fun and avuncular characters and people on the force. And just his whole vibe and flavor, I think is really great. And David Zias, like, hats off, because I'm loving that performance. And in this cluster of episodes, he hasn't been the most prominently featured, you know, ensemble member. But, but yeah, right now, I do got love for Angel in a big way.

He's great. I really like him. And we got a second question from Emma over here. Oh, actually, who do you want to see more of and learn more about? Is his name, I do have an answer for this one. I want to make sure I'm getting the character's name right. Actually, I don't want to Google anything because I don't want to get spoiled. Masuka?

Is that his name? Yeah, the one who's always got a very dirty sense of humor. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's his name. I find him so fun, and I would love to know more about who he actually is. I think at one point we were watching this. I was like, I don't want to spin off about this guy. And, yeah, so I stand by that.

Emma goes on to ask. I already asked another question, but episode eight is a pretty packed episode. So I wanted to ask something separately. hopefully this gets in before you finish watching it did you did it emma well done first off what did you think of dexter in therapy he seemed to really open up to the therapist and understand some things about himself even though at the end dexter said that the therapist helped him understand that he is a killer and he can't change that do you think that if dexter had gotten into therapy at a younger age when he was first starting to feel this way that he might not have turned out like this and what did you think about the ending were you surprised to find out the ice truck killer's identity randomly in episode eight or did you think it would be a season finale thing definitely the latter did you suspect him at all yes no i was surprised how do you think this will affect the story since he's dating deborah anyways i'm excited to see your guys reaction and i hope you are having a good time with this show we are having a blast great questions again emma as always

i think the the fact i don't know because we don't have the experience of not doing it this way. I wonder if I would have suspected him as much if we hadn't seen him spotlit in a recap. There was one episode, it was like six or seven, where he was like definitely in the recap. Right, right. And I was like, this is a specific character

to be including in the recap. I kind of, I mean. But they also included Sam Whitworth. So like, it's a fair mislead, but also, yeah. I mean, I kind of said it as a joke, but I was thinking in the back of my mind, too, I suspect him right when we saw him. him immediately and but well and he says something about like I've studied you know human anatomy or

whatever yeah yeah for sure but also too I'm like they're the featuring the I know it was just a supporting scene but still I'm like I can feel like the this this look that the director and him chose to go with him like something nefarious and feels off with this guy who's supposed to like make you feel comforting and warm and welcoming right now and I'm like I'm just like something is off. He's so charming but something's not right. Yeah, which again, great job by him and the director for, I'm assuming

I think that was maybe the Tony Goldwyn. The other Tony Goalwin? I don't know. The other Goldwyn. Yes, the other golden. But either way, like, that was good on them because like right away had me going, uh-oh, something's not right here. So I like that choice though. Well, and it crossed my mind that

like what would be more diabolical than for him to like get in close to Dexter's sister yeah you know as part of this whole cat and mouse game like i'm i'm rooting for her obviously to to find love into and and like the the the the beats of her character like the the moments of her character yeah and her performance of those moments are so intimate and wonderful and and heartbreaking and a lot of that whole thing where she's crying because like yeah she's never felt like she's ever been made love to before was like so touching and it and it hurts a lot like

I respect the way they are doing this as of now without the rest of the season to go. I only have the knowledge of the people love the show and at least love this first chunk of seasons. For sure. So I am assuming there will be a, you know, I assume that the next four episodes will be just as great. And it's, you know, yeah. It does, yeah, just give you this sort of like foreboding sense of like, uh, and it was really sad and interesting the parallels that and the contrast even, too, that Dexter and Deb deal with you know when it comes to you know like for deb you know first you got if this does become real like oh then then if i lose it like you know what i mean uh it's hard on her because

she's never really felt love and you know that's that's a very scary thing for someone like to open up and be vulnerable in that situation and then when it comes of this episode yeah this past eighth episode for sure and then when it comes to dexter it's you it's you you know like all right is this person going to really see me for who i am an empty vessel and you know then i can and i can lose them as well so i thought that was very fascinating like really showing between deb and dexter yeah i just i felt for them like you know for for as nuanced and great as this show is like you really feel the emotional beats a lot 100% oh yeah it's just it's really executed so far like i really thought it was fascinating how and i agreed with you

when you were saying when they were making love between what was it what does he do again the prosthetics doctor when they were making love and like he was being sweet and endearing but it was so like i forgot the the the the word you said sweet the or oh yeah i forgot the word but whatever sweet sweet sweetester sweet whatever but i agreed with you i'm like if i didn't really suspect that he was the guy right now that like this is a real the way it's written and uh between the dialogue and how he's like being emotionally attentive to her right now in her in her need like this is a very well done scene and it's very sweet and uh i actually too like the character right now but i know i have a gut feeling that i know who and what he really is well and he's got that ted bundy thing

yeah he's like he's very it's it's a good mislead partly because yeah sam whitworth's character really fits the description of a guy who you would suspect of doing this whereas the doctor you you know he's charming he's he's doing the lord's work ostensibly he's he and and it's a nice yin and yang he's literally doing the inverse of his you know nightly bloodlust yeah again i don't i know we just watched it but remember we're watching so many episodes at once yeah something is telling me right now and i know i've mentioned it a few times apologies for mentioning one more time that he is really to that nurse i don't remember if the nurse was cut because it was it was dexter's first

it was his legit first um you know murder and so i'm i'm just curious i can't remember if he did take out her legs and maybe this is what got him so fascinated in prosthetics and all that i don't know but like this seems this this goes beyond to me john of i'm a fan of dexter's work so let me just show him and now i'm going to get close to this it just feels beyond the pale of that And I really do feel like that, like, I get it. We had to show the nurse because, like, we had to see, like, Dexter, like, you know, becoming, like, evolving and becoming better at what he, you know, from when he started. Yeah, well, that too, of course, of course. And also, too, we got to see, like, what happens when you are not, when you don't have that guidance and, you know, that, and you have that urge and you let it out on the innocent.

This is what you can become. And also, I think with that other kid we saw, unfortunately, it took his own life in prison, you know, and that's a scary thing. unfortunately whereas Dexter he lets it out on the trash so to speak without allowing himself to become that at least version of what you might call trash right yes the garbage sorry excuse me oh you're good but yeah yeah so i i just i don't know something is just going off and me right now saying that i really feel like this kai is related and then this is very personal absolutely so yeah we'll see but i'm just very curious and again And I can't wait, even though it's not going to be revealed in the very first interaction.

I can't wait for the very first interaction between Dexter and the doctor. Yeah, like on proper terms and be like, how did you figure me out? You know, how did you, doctor, find me, you know, enough to target and to be communicating with me on this level. You know all this about me. Yeah. I'm fascinated. And yeah, like, you know, to the rest of your question, like it definitely seems. seemed like the kind of thing that you wouldn't discover until the final episode.

And I am very, very, I am here hooked by the choice to do this. I'm not upset or I don't feel like a punch was pulled or like it's been spoiled. This is great. Like, I'm excited for that subversion. I'm not upset either. I have a feeling that the writers were probably going. I think many people, by the time, like, now that we're making this doctor a prominent figure, the prostate guy, a prominent person in the cast, people are going to be on to it.

let's just get it out of the way too and let's let's just reveal it right now well and two yeah yeah it's like you know people are going to be sitting here either patting themselves on the back for for being on to this guy or going well it's it's probably the doctor so to yeah to come out and just be like it's this guy yeah you know and then knowing we have four more episodes to go does make you go well then what what else are we going to get to i think it's going to add i think now knowing that it's the doctor it adds a lot more tension at least for from deb deb perspective knowing as an audience like it's for sure this guy i mean it definitely would have added a little more mystery for the last four episodes but i don't mind that i you know having that suspense

intention for the next four episodes knowing she's with this creepy guy who like now we that cast was not just for most likely another person it was like possibly as a trophy or something who knows but we we shall see but in regards to the therapy's planning to take on yeah up next yeah right right in regards to like the therapy i loved all the tony goldwin great job directing the the two episodes i hope he directs more episodes but the the role he played very fascinating and scary and creepy character it's it's wild like you can't this is why words can be so powerful like you can literally not lay your hands on someone and still like have a irreparable damage you can still be violent yeah no no doubt physical anything yeah so i thought that was an interesting way to go about it while also like

getting an interesting look into dexter's mind and seeing that you know there are things he can't control and in regards to the other portion of the question if he would have had therapy earlier on would he have still turned out i think he did have therapy most of his life that was hairy so in a sense yeah i mean in a sense yeah because because you know he is the only person with which Dexter can unpack this stuff Yeah To some degree

Like it's not a one to one To traditional therapy With the psychology expert No I agree with you though It is a form of therapy And I wonder It's like It would have to be the perfect circumstances

It's like if he had gotten into therapy At a younger age when he was starting to feel this way I can't tell In my but it institutionalized him yeah if I'm thinking about it I'm like would someone have given him the specialized care and attention that

Harry did you know because I spent he is trying to reach him and then another 15 trying to put him away because I saw what was hiding behind those boys eyes was nothing but purely evil yes that's what would have happened yeah absolutely

or could have I mean you know it's like it's the dice roll of like maybe you would have gotten somebody who would have taken all that time to really be patient and understand and not just throw this kid in a hole. I can also see it going the other way. So it is very fascinating to watch him in a therapy scenario. And I do love what the device of him, you know, fingering his man. I'm like, I know it's you. So now I can actually get some real shit off my shit. Like it was a fun game to watch him sit down in the earlier scenes and get it some real stuff or at least dance around some real stuff. to get some actual therapy even if the doctor, even if Tony Goldman's character doesn't exactly know that he's not receiving

like the complete context like the emotional core of it still gets examined and still is... Yeah, like I think it's interesting the whole idea of Dexter as an emotional being

or you know an anti-emotional being I suppose because like what does it mean to be empty like even the feeling of hollowness and emptiness comes with some level of perspective and even if you are not experiencing the traditional array of emotions you know i feel like there's still feeling and sensation there there's still motivation there's still perspective so like it's i think a cool thing about this show is like you can take dexter at his word like yes i don't

feel what normal people feel i'm detached from being very um you know susceptible to the influence of emotion but I don't think he doesn't experience any of it and I think that yeah like in a subconscious sense you know some of his natural instincts come out around kids people he doesn't have to posture or play politics around and yeah I really liked

watching him get emotional and get overwhelmed and have these worries about like I'm afraid for Rita to discover what's under the surface and to hate what she finds and you know I'm afraid of you know hurting this person who's who is who I'm choosing

to have be special to me and yes like you know in some ways she's a bit of a beard uh but at the same time i i do believe that there is like a motivation in there to do good and to be good to her and to understand himself to a greater extent and so uh yeah but the the therapist and the the whole idea that yeah he might have some breakthroughs was a really fun game it was definitely and i'll say this and then we can move on to the next question again m a fantastic question I'll say this in all

there are so many wonderful lines of dialogue and deliveries from all the actors so far throughout the first eight episodes the I'm a serial killer oh

whatever whatever the line was after that that might have been one of my favorite deliveries so far in the entire show because he's been literally like holding that

other than other than other than with Harry like he has been literally holding that within and having a mask as a facade and he says it in a way he probably couldn't even say it to Harry like he gets to put it he gets to call the spade a spade yeah but Harry yes yes whereas Harry probably would have encouraged some other way of describing this I would imagine yeah which isn't also which isn't a bad true thing but Harry knows what

he's going to unleash one day but he wants to do it for good at least he wants to harness it for yeah the least heinous possible end of Of course, but still, to have Dexter finally let it out and really have intent behind the meaning. It's cathartic. Yeah, literally, it was very cathartic for Dexter. But that delivery by Michael C. Hall and the direction again from the man literally sitting across from him, really fantastic, solid job. Yeah, I were like, but I felt it. I really did.

It's weird. I almost think that if he had gotten into therapy earlier, I don't know. It's like he's had so much time examining people's emotions. and how to fit in with other people and how to not hurt people who don't deserve it I almost feel like for who he is right now

this is the ideal order of things it's weird again you need a you need a Harry who is also a therapist or something I like it could have gotten better part of me wonders if you know him embracing the idea of like I have these orders I am a killer if he had just fully embraced that from a younger age I can see that going

kind of the opposite direction where it's like Maybe he wouldn't be, as I guess you might describe it as high functioning as he is now. It's a fascinating. That's the thing about these questions and about this show in general is I love this because you can debate the answers to these questions. There's not a clear answer to these questions. And I think everyone you ask these two will have a different response. Yeah. Which is just a lovely sign of good drama.

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We up higher. Yes, we have more. Whatever you want. You're in control, John. Zach Zabindin. Back again. Thank you for chiming in. One of my favorite shows.

It is fast becoming one of mine. And I imagine maybe yours. It's definitely a really growing fast. Oh, yeah. Is Dexter... Like Laura Croft is around me. Is Dexter a good or bad person? Maybe it's a gray area.

So if you had to choose which side he's leaning more toward which is it. And do you believe him when he says he has no feelings? Is it all an act? Or is he feeling something that maybe he doesn't know he's feeling? Or maybe doesn't know how to describe or maybe doesn't match what other people's feelings are. I think this is a great thing that the show allows you to contemplate. Definitely a gray area. I mean, he takes that, he does good things to bad, or excuse me, he does bad,

I'll say bad things to bad people. Yeah, I was going to say good things to bad people. It depends how you look at it. Yeah, I would say definitely gray, because, again, he had the chance to take Tony Tucci when he had the blood and he didn't do it, right? If he was a bad person, wouldn't he have taken him out right there? Yeah. So it's like the instilling of that MO that's like you got to use this on.

The code of Harry. Yeah, don't use this. on anyone who doesn't deserve it, like, is... It's got to serve a purpose. It is crucial, yeah, and it's such a part of who he is. Yeah, so, yeah, I don't view him as he's an evil villain, like, or a bad person. That's not how I look to view him in any way. Like, the people he takes out, it's very justified when I watch it for, you know, for sure.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, that's how I would answer that in regards to, do you, believe him when he says he has no feelings isn't all an act or does he feel something that maybe he doesn't know he's feeling i think there's a little bit of both and that there's times where he for sure doesn't have feelings but there are times too when he doesn't know what he's feeling and you know what i mean there are there are times where in his mind like he is feeling empty and but there's also times too like i did make a note here like about his social awkwardness for instance like because he's again he's putting on that facade but then when he's in

in situations where he's comfortable with himself, I feel like he's feeling himself when he is, like, he's appeasing that, that appetite of his urge, you know what I mean? I feel like that's when he's really feeling something. When he's playing with the kids, for instance, I feel like that's when he's feeling something. Like, just for instance,

watch his interaction when he's talking with the therapist, with Tony Goldwyn. Watch his interactions when, whenever he's doing, like when he's speaking with Castillo, when he's in that MO, in that mode, I feel like he is actually feeling something. And I think, to when he is like

when he's not getting in his head with Rita and stuff like that and he's actually unpacking the layers of like what life could be with this incredible woman and with the kids and he did like that that conversation he had where he said like I just want

to live a normal life and like I actually feel like he was feeling something in that scene in that moment for the character I would agree yeah so I wouldn't say like he's totally empty and there are times when he does feel things He seems like he, yeah, he has motivations that suggest to me that there is something in there, even if it's not the standard array of human emotions, the standard emotional spectrum. It's like he clearly has care and concern. He clearly gets worried. And I think he's massively atypical, perhaps. But it's fascinating. It makes you question the idea of like if you spend so much time emulating, studying, and enacting the performance of emotion, does any of that?

stick into your sense memory, your subconscious, your muscles, any of that. I don't know. Again, I don't not believe him when he says he has no feelings. I wonder if it is kind of what you're suggesting here where I wouldn't say it's all an act necessarily, or at least, you know, I take it as the narration is giving you a window into his head. We could learn that this is all some kind of recorded interview that is, you know, not to be trusted or something. But right now it certainly feels like he's just talking to us from his internal monologue. And so I feel like he must be feeling some things, some things. And yeah, he either doesn't know what those things are or doesn't have the words to describe them. Or maybe they're just so different from the, again, normal

emotions that he has to perform that, yeah, there's a disconnect there. But it's, again, a fascinating thing because it's like it's not so clearly one or the other that it doesn't leave room for this interesting level of debate but it's also not you know it's not uh i feel like anytime you get into a position where you're dealing with someone with no emotions it's hard you know you have to have a performance still you have to have dimensions and dynamics and i think the fact that yeah he is so well versed at emulating emotion but also has this code that he clearly cares to live by. Yeah, I feel like

there's somebody in there. You know, and I think it'll be fascinating, hopefully, to see that question continually probed as the show continues. For sure. Yeah, because there's definitely where times where, like, he needed to meet Rita like halfway in regards to being emotionally intelligent or connecting towards her

and, like, there were times like, there's nothing there. Yeah. And I could resonate with that because I've been an empty shell myself when it comes to that. So, and trying to grow, you know, as an individual. So I recognize those patterns. It's like if he didn't have anything in there, I don't think he would bother trying to have a relationship.

Like he could be a loner, you know, if he didn't care. That line, though, going after someone who's damaged. Yeah. But great question, though. These questions are fantastic, guys. And as for the good person versus bad person, I mean, like, not a textbook good person, but I would say he leans more toward the good side of the spectrum than not.

I mean he's literally been imbued with the motivation to make one of the worst urges you can have into at least something my debatably productive or you know like the fact that yeah he only uses these urges to target people who have done terrible heinous things you know it's like I'm not going to say here to be like it's good like go out and murder people who also murder people but at the same time it is like again if you want to debate the spectrum it's about the best circumstances you could. hope for if you found out tomorrow that there's a serial killer at large but they're only killing people who are maiming and and you know uh damaging other people traumatizing other people taking life from other people how would you feel about that you know it's about the best thing you could hope for and like you know again he seems like a good all right guy beyond his uh compulsions so uh you know again not I'm not going to say like a 100% good person, obviously. But, you know, what we do with the darkest, you know, members of our society is a constantly running debate throughout all time in history. And I know there are some people out there who very justifiably would probably behold a character like this and be like, let a rip.

Go do what you got to do, you know, because it's probably going to fill in some gaps that the law cannot, you know. But it's a fascinating. debate to be had no no the nonetheless and a fun one at that given how the show presents itself got a couple more fun questions pavel catch merrick thank you for adding the phonetic pronunciation to your name we're doing it we're uh we're we're always trying to honor you by getting it right so uh yeah okay so if you found out there was a serial killer out there that only targets other killers would you be actively against that what you just said or would you step aside and go oh well it's a it's a fascinating debate and everyone's going to have a different answer yeah boy because i can see why you would be like i'll say

if if the law didn't work and they really committed atrocities and they were still free and they were truly guilty i would say oh well that that that'd be my honest god's honest answer i feel like everybody if they're truly truly if they're truly guilty if they're truly guilty and the law failed and they're out there to commit atrocities, that's where I would say, oh, well. Yeah, there's the debate of like, well, who's to decide and where's the line and what level

of this or that? Like, absolutely, fair to debate. But, again, if it's a serial killer that only targets other killers, that's about the closest I could get to being like, oh, well, I mean, you know, there are again, always humanitarian debates about what to do with people who are

so deviant. They can't function in normal society or are actively antagonistic and you know murderous toward normal society but it is a fascinating question yeah great question absolutely and j rushden thank you here's a fun one uh j rushden wants to know and thank you for joining in the chat here like what mascot of cereal would be a serial killer there my guess is they're great sunny the cuckoo bird went crazy finally is sunny the cuckoo bird fruit loops cocoa puffs

oh coca bucou for cocoa which one's the the fruit loops one that's a tropic and the tropic is that a two can't sam you would think I would know that after having so many fruit loops follow your nose I would say Tony the tiger because they're great

that's what he would say after he commits all the atrocities I don't I don't know cuckoo bird let's see I don't think it's the honey smacks frog I think he's cool no it's I know who it is it's the lucky charms that he's got motive

the kids are always stealing his lucky charms no I know who it is the rabbit silly rabbit tricks are for kids again motive yes that that's who it is it's the rabbit

the amount of times I watch that commercial and seeing the the the kids steal that that rabbit's tricks yeah it's the rabbit yeah I was going to say the Cheerios B I'm going to clear he's probably fine there's another there's another mascot though that I think has it in

has that dog in him and I'm trying to think oh I just had it too I mean like cookie crisp see that guy's a junkie it's possible him and sunny both I would I would pitch more for for being like junkies cinnamon toast crunch yeah was that the scientist guy

French toast crunch yeah sure those little toast guys definitely there's oh god there's there's an obvious one that I'm golden crisp Golden crisp what's their he was a bear right I don't know like a little bear I was going to say We got Tony the Tiger.

I think he's okay. He's into sports. All right, guys, we're just looking at Serials, which I didn't. This is only, I'm only going to look this up

because it's driving me crazy and I had it in mind and then I forgot it. Which one? Snapcackle. Apple jacks, I don't know. Snapcackle and Pop.

Cornflakes. I'm not going for Count Chocular or any of the spooky crew because, you know, they're fine. Captain Crunch. Oh, I don't know. Rice Krispies.

It's not those guys. Who was it? Damn. Oh, it's going to drive me crazy. There's 10,000 here you can look through if you want. Oh, my, golly, the fruit brute. Yeah, I guess. I mean, you know, snapcrackle and pop, they're a syndicate of sorts.

They could probably get it done. It was Fred and Barney. That's what I was going to say. That's actually, there we go. That's what I was going to say is I could see Fred finally having killed Barney. Yes. That's where I was going with that. Thank you, Andrew.

You're welcome. I was going to say. This is a great question, though. And if you've made it at this point in the video, leave your answer as to who you think would be a killer out of all the cereal. By the way, just really quick, fruit loops and fruity pebbles. By far, my two favorite cereals growing up. You like a fruity cereal?

I do. I love fruity pebbles. So damn good. Did you like fruity pebbles? I didn't get them much, actually. I mean, I had them, and I do like fruity pebbles. Next June, I know what to buy you. There we go.

There we go. Well, Andrew, do you have. have any other thoughts? Yeah, I just, again, I talked about the agency for Rita in the previous four episodes, which I thought they gave her again and building up her character development, that moment she had with, Phil, or ex-husband, whatever his name is. Oh, Paul? Paul.

Thank you so much. Mark Pellegrino from Supernatural. Yeah. I do like that moment she had where she stood up to him and went to the motel wherever he's staying at and stood her ground. I can't imagine for someone who's got the PTSD she does with this individual and has children with them

and the brave and strong, courageous face and, you know, act that she had to put and do, like, great character development because, again, she's usually more reserved just in the first eight episodes so far and just very, very sweet and endearing characters. So the way she, I like the way she had to stand up for herself when it came to the dog napping

and when it came to standing up to Paul. So some really great standing. that moments i thought i think she's had so far and also deb uh there's been a couple times too where she's also been on the reserve side too and hend to stand up for herself and i like the detective work but i also find it very fascinating for how much she prides herself on being such a great detective like writing that whole profile on her brother which you can recognize was her brother but also like love is very blind right and ignorance is extremely bliss and she's right now she's sleeping and in love with a serial killer

a very you know very vindictive disgustingly evil serial killer as opposed to loving a kinder nicer one as her brother but i think the point being is she's going to not only have some trauma after this whole incident is yeah not only well yeah also the the heartbreak of like losing someone you love but also that the fact that it's actually an actual killer but i think also to the thing she's got pride and i think we all have a little bit of an ego, but I think the part for her is when I say pride and ego, she's going to really be beating herself up too over the fact that she, again, she takes major pride in her detective skills and that she couldn't see the kid was right in front of her face and she was banging him. Literally. Yeah. Yeah, no, I think, especially as of

episode A, you know, a therapy episode, all I could think was like, oh my God, like the psychological number that this is going to do on you. and like of course somebody who makes you feel so seen and loved like I am so worried for her as a character truly and it makes the stakes higher for her relationship with Dexter because if that truth ever comes out to her that's another one of those things of yeah not only is it it plays to that side of like you know my gut instincts

and my detective skills but I couldn't see what was right under my nose for so long like that'll do a number on you And then, you know, in terms of the doctor, adding that extra element of, like, was any of this real, you know, this person's completely manipulated and taking advantage of me? And, like, how could you ever believe if you discover, I'm sure she will discover the truth? Yeah. And how could you ever believe anything after that? And one more thing to your point. I think the writers just did such a brilliant job.

I think it might have been the episode before where Dexter was really fighting with the urge to kind of tell Deb the whole truth. And Harry has always told her, no, you've got to keep your sister in the dark not only because of the ramifications of the consequences of what could happen if you do tell her in regards to now she's going to have to hide and lie about all this. But also, too, I think it was also a sense of, like, her not knowing the truth about who someone really is as a killer was really foreshadowing to that she was going to be dating the actual killer, the ice, the ice cream truck killer. So I think the writers just really did a nice job of setting that up while also having for Dexterity. have to wrestle with that because he loves Debbie and he really confides in her but he wants to share this but he can't because he's trying to protect her at the same point while also protecting his own sanity so it's it's very fat again the the way this show deals with the psychology of it all is just very fascinating while also moving the story forward and

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