The Reel Rejects - DEXTER SEASON 1 Episodes 9, 10, 11, & 12 REVIEW!!

Episode Date: July 23, 2025

SURPRISE, MOTHER******!! Dexter Full Reaction Watch Along:   / thereelrejects   Visit https://huel.com/rejects to get 15% off your order With new episodes of DEXTER: RESURRECTION dropping... on Hulu, Andrew & John continue their binge giving their DEXTER Season 1, Episodes 9–12 Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis & Spoiler Review!! Andrew Gordon & John Humphrey dive into the shocking final stretch of Dexter Season 1 with Episodes 9 through 12, as the Ice Truck Killer mystery reaches its chilling climax and Dexter Morgan faces revelations that threaten to unravel everything he thought he knew. In these gripping episodes—“Father Knows Best,” “Seeing Red,” “Truth Be Told,” and “Born Free”—Dexter (Michael C. Hall, Six Feet Under, Safe) uncovers disturbing details about his past while navigating a growing web of secrets. Jennifer Carpenter (Quarantine, The Exorcism of Emily Rose) stars as his adoptive sister, Debra Morgan, whose romance with Rudy (Christian Camargo, The Hurt Locker, The Twilight Saga) takes a dark turn when his true identity is revealed. David Zayas (Gotham, Blue Bloods) returns as Sergeant Angel Batista, while James Remar (The Warriors, Black Lightning) appears in haunting flashbacks as Dexter’s adoptive father Harry. Julie Benz (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel) continues her role as Dexter’s girlfriend Rita, whose own personal battles add emotional weight to the season’s close. Famous scenes include the discovery of Dexter’s biological family, the gruesome motel room bloodbath in “Seeing Red,” Debra’s terrifying abduction, and the iconic moment in the finale when Dexter must choose between loyalty, family, and survival. These episodes set the tone for the series' dark exploration of morality and identity, cementing Dexter as one of TV’s most unforgettable antiheroes. Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/Agor711 Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you to Hewlett for sponsoring this video. More on them in just a bit. Let's go. Let's watch it. Let's do the thing. Oh, my God, man. I need a second to bring back together. We got that. Absolutely. We got thoughts. We got questions from the patrons. We got thought. Absolutely. We got thoughts. We got questions from the patrons. We got plenty to do a post mortem on a lots of blood splatter here. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:33 God damn. All right. Just all right. All right. Oh, OK. Gang gang. Do my best to keep my brain in order. But goodness gracious, thank you so much. First and foremost, if you have joined us across this season of TV, it was amazing. Yeah. From what feels like now the sort of golden age of like cable, certainly, you know, HBO stuff like the wire and the sopranos is like what people credit. But this feel like when Dexter was first coming out it was sort of in that wave of like oh damn, you know like episodic procedural TV is getting a level up in terms of pulp and content and themes and whatnot
Starting point is 00:01:16 So this has been very cool to go back and finally contextualize Leave a like on the video and don't forget to subscribe and hit the notification bell if you want to be updated whenever More Dexter comes your way because I gotta imagine we're gonna continue on very excited big big big big Thank you to the folks over at Prepper for chopping these highlights together it is quite a task especially for a show with content as Pulpy and harsh as this show can sometimes have yeah We very much appreciate you guys. It has been a journey getting these, you know, suitable to be viewed for everyone on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:01:53 So, yeah, big thanks to you all in your efforts. And thanks to all the folks who have chimed in over on Patreon. We got some questions here to kick things off with. Also, if you are listening in audio form and podcast form, leave us a little rating if you would be so kind on Apple, Spotify, wherever you happen to be listening from. All right. So a little bit of transparency. Typically up till now, we've shot this in four episode clusters.
Starting point is 00:02:20 This final four was shot on two separate occasions actually So we will do we'll have some questions that mainly pertained episodes nine and ten I think we're gonna start on you know the full finale questions and then work our way back So forgive me if there aren't a couple bits of maybe speculation or whatever that we're not able to do because we don't have we now We have all the answers. But any who Emma and you are picking us off for Andrew and John. You finished season one of Dexter did it part of the crew. Now what did you think. Absolutely. We got to get our little you know send away for our special Dexter Club membership buttons. But anyway what do you think overall about the show so far?
Starting point is 00:03:08 The concept, pacing, characterization, emotion, et cetera. We finally find out the truth about Rudy and why he was so obsessed with Dexter. Did you suspect him to be his brother at all? No. What did you think about Dexter choosing Deb instead of Rudy? Who would have accepted Dexter as he is now? The ice truck killer is dead. What do you think season two is going to be about and are you planning to continue with season two and if so what are you most excited?
Starting point is 00:03:32 Well Emma thank you for all the amazing questions you've been asking all season long. We appreciate you so much. The season was incredible. It was emotional. It was intense. It was thought provoking. It was fun at times. And there are just so many different other words I could go into describe in regards to Rudy. I think we had an idea was that character that he was the ice cream truck killer brother was the last thing I think I pointed out several times. I thought he was related to the nurse with Dexter's very first kill. I thought it was going to come back this way. I think this was such a more fascinating and emotional way to for it to you know to come back with Dexter's history because this was actually going to be hard. You know when usually when Dexter takes out his Vic, his subjects, like he's he's
Starting point is 00:04:27 he's doing justice and it's the code of Harry. So even though he's, you know, doing the code of Harry here, like this is someone from his past that has meaning to him and also the person who knows the real him. So there's an emotional weight there. So and and resonance. So I feel like like this is so much more interesting and a tougher decision for Dexter to have to be put in. When you ask like you know what did I think about Dexter choosing Deb over room and Deb's hot Rudy's not sorry. So I mean that's running on who you talk to. Yeah exactly. I know Rudy Rudy's a pretty good looking guy too. I mean yeah he's got all along
Starting point is 00:05:06 He gets you to admit you find Rudy. Yes, exactly. No, I'd be like obviously, he's got repressed memories of Beat voices beanie been by me by me. I love that Actually, he's got repressed memories of viney and doesn't remember the time he spent with him and he was only three years old but I mean Deb's also his sister too and like yes they are not biological but I mean the time they spent with him like they are inseparable as well and he was not gonna like she he has committed insane amount of atrocities and he was not going to let him get away with this you know as much as he has as much meaning as he had to him in his past. So that's what I thought about that. And of
Starting point is 00:05:50 course he wasn't going to let him get away with it as hard as it was for him to do. So also are we planning on doing season two? I would love to. I hope we get to and I'm super pumped and excited about season two. And yeah, what about you? All those questions. Yeah, yeah, no, I was really enthralled by this. And this is as I've stated, I think in the past, like a show that people would often sort of take for granted as something I already loved. People were like, Oh, I thought you were like, yeah, I thought you loved Dexter. I thought, you know, you would have seen the whole thing. And, you know, from the very first episode, like from the opening moments, like rare,
Starting point is 00:06:28 you know, like there are a lot of great shows out there and it's still rare, I think, when a show can pull you in and really like get you enthusiastically on board in the opening moments in the first episode. You know, a lot of shows, you know, the allowance is made for like, well, you know, there's the pilot before they, you know, have a full season order oftentimes. And so like there are things that change, there are things that get, you know, sort of figured out and ironed out and streamlines so that the show can find its real pace and rhythm. But this felt from the get go really well unified and really well fleshed out.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And yeah, I mean, the definitely fleshed out. The concept alone is, you know, an intrigue. Like, it's obvious as to how and why you would be able to sell this movie, because, yeah, you know, a serial killer who targets other serial killers. It's a perfect high concept. And then you have the combination of that with, you know, idea of this character who. If not, doesn't experience emotion, at least doesn't experience emotion
Starting point is 00:07:32 the way normal, normal people do. And so, yeah, the characterization has been fascinating and I think both in terms of Dexter and his unique state of mind, his unique frame of perspective. But also everybody else around him and the way that they've been able to draw, again, arcs for the ensemble and give you this real feeling that there's kind of a bunch of stuff happening at once. I feel like it's a special thing when shows can create this air of like, yeah, we've got this main thing that we're worrying about,
Starting point is 00:08:05 but there's also like a bunch of other stuff happening and you can kind of get into the anxiety that this would bring any person and the characters are obviously feeling in a lot of respects. So yeah, I think the characterization's great and every actor is so well chosen, every character of the main ensemble anyway,
Starting point is 00:08:23 I'm invested in, even characters who at first I expected I wouldn't like, you know, it's like Dokes is a fascinating character because he's the kind of character that, you know, is anytime you have a supporting character who's always sort of needling your lead, you know, that puts them in the position to be like kind of an asshole character you don't like. But I love Dokes. Like I love I like even though I don't want him to catch Dexter, it's partly because like I like the both of them. And it's fascinating to see under his surface as well as under, you know, angels or anybody else. So, yeah, I really enjoyed all of that. And the question, you know, I think, again, it's a show that has, you know, and unique conceit because he's often, you know, describing the way in which he,
Starting point is 00:09:09 you know, experiences this absence, this lack of emotions, anti emotion, but also like the emotions again, as we've talked about before that might be in there, but just aren't quite describable. Or maybe he doesn't know what the exact words would be or you know, even if it's not the same as how other people experience it like I am fascinated by the question of Dexter's emotional state what he feels if and how and then yeah, like you know, the Rudy bit I did not see coming almost at all until again moments before, yeah, of course. Yeah, you know, it's like, if you're really paying attention, maybe there's some stuff that you could pick up beforehand. But like, yeah, when that came down, I was pretty flabbergasted. And I think that that's a really cool conceit to double down on just the idea that the show is in general.
Starting point is 00:10:01 You know, again, Serial Killer, Who Kills Killers, he's met this, you know, again, serial killer who kills killers. He's met this, you know, particular match and is, you know, in this teta tet sort of and this game going back and forth. And you, you know, really get to lavish in both the fun of that, the game of that and, you know, the rush of that, but also, you know, the further it gets, the wire, the real dread and intensity of that. Yeah, like I was constantly fascinated by what the connection would be. And it seemed like, oh, yeah, this guy clearly has to have some kind of reason for fixating on Dexter. But I never would have imagined. And I think it's a nice way
Starting point is 00:10:37 to double down on the twist of like at the end of episode eight, we discover who the ice truck killer actually is. And then we spend these next four episodes with that knowledge, you sort of observing how he fits in and, you know, what, you know, we don't get his internal narration narrative, obviously. But, you know, like what kind of code gets him by and able to indulge in his compulsion, you know, when he does. God, man. And yeah, Dexter choosing Deb instead of Rudy.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I think that's a great debate and conundrum because, yeah, it's like, you know, you have this reveal of the ice truck killer and then to bring it back at the end to like, oh, shit, this is this guy's long lost brother. This is what everyone was trying to hide at the crime scene. This is what, you know, the deceits were and all that stuff that calls, you know, the code of Harry, Harry himself into question. You know, I think that, yeah, him deciding to choose Deb makes sense.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And I think it does speak to an interesting level of like emotional instinct, because again, Dexter, somebody who has to come at emotion from the logical perspective as sort of like a skill needing to be acquired for the sake of survival And I think yeah having I think it's really cool because yeah You don't expect to be revealed on the ice truck killer in episode 8 and then to have this additional twist I think was a really nice way to you know again you need some kind of huge reveal at the end It's not just will they catch him there's got to be something else to make it to push it over The line into greatness.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And so, yeah, I was super enthralled by that, super enthralled by like the performances once the truth is out and they're talking to each other as brothers. And yeah, this real debate of should I save somebody who could absolutely see me and who will probably push me to my worst possible extent potentially or do I cling to this code that is like baked into my bones at this point that I've spent so much time and energy dedicating myself to living by and like even though again there's the emotional disconnect you get the sense that you know he and Deb have spent all that time together as brother and sister there is some kind of bond there's some kind of care and nurture that Dexter has to feel,
Starting point is 00:12:48 even if it's not again, traditional or even if it's not fully, you know, the way anybody else would experience it. And I'm curious, you know, just to see if there's any fallout from that or if he has, you know, any sort of grappling with that choice as things go on. I have to imagine at least, you know, Brian, Biny, Rudy will be mentioned again in the future. But I really know what to think about what episode what season two is going to be about.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I mean, I can see sorry. I don't mean to I just I can see going more into dokes is backstory a little bit because we got a little bit of a preview of that with, you know, tailing them around. We had that with that that thing. And also to that, you know, he deals with some PTSD and some trauma as well. And also that he's not all that dissimilar. I mean, obviously not, not to the same level, obviously as Dexter taking out the bad guys in that way, but he, he does do a little bit of himself. So he's kind of similar in Dexter
Starting point is 00:13:43 in that sense, But I wouldn't be shocked. Just make I know a lot of my predictions are wrong, but I wouldn't be shocked of him and Deb started a relationship as well because she's obviously not going to be in a state where she's very trustworthy or wanting to get into a relationship with anyone. And also, but at the same point, she's going to be very vulnerable to. So, you know, not wanting to open up and not wanting to be in a trustworthy state, you know, dokes of someone you can put your trust into and they already have her before and they have a bond and you can. I've just seen a lot of chemistry this entire season and I've seen that build up the way they interact
Starting point is 00:14:21 with each other. So I'm not saying for sure it's going to happen, but I could see it going that way for sure. And you can see too, like the amount that he cares for her too. So, and like even too in the background, I thought it was a really interesting way that they were like the way they were framing it. Like he actually decides the fact that like they were trying to do work and he like kind of looked a little upset and like, Hey, we should be working. It it's like look kind of jealous too that she had a guy so I don't know if that was foreshadowing for the future but I could see that I'm hoping we get a resolve with the captain but that could be a running that could be a running theme of like just politics you know that's just how it is but we'll see what happens with that. There's got to be more of that, but I do I was very I
Starting point is 00:15:07 Thought the actress who's playing the new lieutenant is good presence really great presence off the bat Even before she has the exchange with the quarter and then once they have that exchange I was like drawn in that much further I was like maybe not that there's gonna be no conflict between these characters, but very fascinated to see how they maybe are able to synergize You know being that they are both you know Do they they both have to deal with the you know the the chief guy the guy above them?
Starting point is 00:15:38 And yeah, that was a fun sort of subversion I know the Paul stuff is gonna keep going and that's what I have the most dread about Weird stuff and read it right and, here's the thing like with that. I understand like it hurts and it sucks for Rita because Dexter did that and lied to him. But at the same time too, and she got made the bat, put the bad guy in the situation, but this guy like literally assaulted her and was about to do really nefarious evil Horrific things to her at the same point too like and he did it for Rita It's and I know I know I know I know again
Starting point is 00:16:13 It's like it wasn't the lawful thing to do but I feel it was the moral thing to do is yeah I don't know. It's a question mark. It's a question mark You understand a hundred percent why he does it. And I think a big part of the fall, it's like, you know, she's got the idea clearly planted in her mind. She's found the shoe and, you know, it is one of a few very rare occasions under which Dexter is was clumsy to him. Yes. Well, she's at least got the reason to be suspicious now. And I think, yeah, it's like as as despicable as Paul has been.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And as much as, yeah, his actions don't merit second chances. I think they've done a fascinating job drawing that character, that relationship, dramatically speaking, it is fascinating. And it is, you know, very, I feel like pretty nuanced for what they've drawn here. And yeah, it's less the question of like did this guy have it coming Yeah, pretty much but uh You know it's I think it will be more about Rita having to if she finds out grapple with the idea that Dexter would be capable of this that he would do it and
Starting point is 00:17:19 You know kind of active on his own accord do this keep it a secret for so long You know it gives Paul this weird edge. That's good point. Yeah, it's not only about that It's like I could imagine a version of this where yeah, it's like you know now No one's with Brita because this is all messed up. Yeah So yeah, I'm dreading that because again Mark Pellegrino doing a great job And you know he really did having good foils is You know part of the fun, but it's like dokes and Dexter They're back and forth is like tense but fun in a way whereas the Paul Dexter back and forth gives me much more anxiety
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah, like seriously one of my favorite interactions this entire season was when he was fighting like physically fighting with dokes He said leave a lab geek my ass. Yeah Such a fun interaction. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like watching They're back and forth and the kind of the flavors they keep that isolated The two of them is really fun but the Paul stuff is tough because you know, it's like what he did to him is particularly kind of grim and The whole thing where his sponsor comes back and he's like, I know this guy, too.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And like, yeah, you know, I would have believed you accept the evidence and like all that stuff is pretty fascinating. So you say, yeah, I'm nervous and excited for to. I can't wait. And yeah, I like the desperate kind of it's weird. It's like so many things are happening so quickly Dexter has to make a choice and I believe why he would have chosen Deborah, but I feel like just the the chewing of That it's like he's gone way too far now and his way to set in this life and has too much sort of in his Subconscious muscle memory his bones to allow this, you know, newly opened wound to govern everything for a person who spent so much time orchestrating and containing
Starting point is 00:19:14 himself for the world. I bought both the economy of not going with Rudy, but also, yeah, the sort of like I think there is that it's a good nature nurture debate. It's like your family, it's where you come from. You know, you belong with me and I can see you clearly. But also, you know, you're more like Deb probably than you think. And even though Deb and Harry are part of some messed up aspects of your life, you know, it is sort of a life that you have chosen in a way. And so and it's so fast. I believe he wouldn't just rashly throw all that away because what are they going to do? Like, it's go kill their way through America and get killed prematurely. I'll watch that. I mean, it won't be on their side, but I guess that'd be fascinating to watch.
Starting point is 00:19:57 But it was so interesting to to see because obviously when you watch it on reruns and now you know what the twist is in regards to rooting being his brother that the signs are there in, you know, the, with putting out in the motel room, one Oh three or whatever that all that stuff was like, he was laying out the, the fingerprints and stuff like that to create these trauma moments to try and put the pieces in place. Like I am your brother. Like there's, there's a reason like I'm not digging into your into your past like I am Your past yeah, like it was it's so it I'm gonna be so interested on the rewatch like to now I hint onto these clues all these subconscious notes And I thought that was a really great thread to it's not only these are clues to the here and now but these are also clues Based on yeah your repressed childhood memories and the emotional aspect of Dexter being blindsided by yeah these these
Starting point is 00:20:51 memories returning and these swells of Feeling that were probably cut off You know at that super young age that are now sort of probably creeping back in and throwing him even further for a loop Yeah, cuz I was so I was like a little bit confused on that at first. I'm like, how does he know about, I mean, I like, where do you find this info? Like I know he knows a lot about that and now it makes sense. Well, yeah, that's a great, you know, it's, it's a great question mark for the mystery,
Starting point is 00:21:17 but it's also, I think a really strong reveal for sure. Now for sure. Like that's why I thought, and I'm so happy to be like, I know I make a lot of these predictions, which I get, I take ownership. I understand can be a little bit frustrating and annoying, but it's part of the fun of doing this. And especially when it's something of such mystery. And I also love being on my toes and not knowing and then being like satisfied, satisfied in a way. I'm like, oh my God, that's the last thing I would have thought of, but it's such an emotional twist too. Oh yeah, it was the best kind. Yeah, because it's like way more personal
Starting point is 00:21:52 and way more emotional. Yeah. And way more conflicting. And the fact that, yeah, you have the final episode to deal with all of this. And the fact that, yeah, like everyone's closing in, there's just so much, yeah, that like, I would love to study or hear about how they, you know, went about
Starting point is 00:22:07 conceiving and writing this because it was so I felt I felt like so well rounded, so well paced, so well conceived. There are only like. There's only maybe one episode I can think of that in the moment felt maybe somewhat like, oh, you know, we've got like a couple of random BNC stories for the other, you know, cops and whatnot. But, you know, for the most part, like everything and even those things eventually, you know, tied in and all that. So like, yeah, this was like masterfully unified, I felt like. And yeah, I cannot wait to watch the next season, but I'm also really excited to rewatch this season. I agree. I can't wait
Starting point is 00:22:43 to watch this season too. Yeah, it's like a movie. I want to go back and revisit. Jay rushed in real quick one and then we'll jump back into the previous post for Andrew and John. Like, will you guys watch the movie Zodiac, by the way? They never found the real world killer. We should watch Zodiac. We should put it back on the channel again a second.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Yeah, let's do a second reaction. You're in luck. We actually have Andrew and myself. Perfect people to assess a zodiac reaction. It is available now. It has been available, I think, since November of twenty twenty three. Yeah. So we couldn't find the killer either, unfortunately. So but but even still, there's like every couple of years or something.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Someone's like, oh, there's new evidence or new Wrinkles of speculation on the case blah blah blah that was quite a gripping film. Yeah, but uh yeah, so if you want the Experience of zodiac alongside and for myself that's available both as reaction highlights on the main channel and as a watch along over on patreon Next question we're jumping back so we might be retreading some episode nine and 10 stuff. Emily Rose, fear not. Once these start dropping, they'll be in pretty tight succession. So you won't have to worry much longer, but I appreciate your anticipation.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Let's see. Let's see. We got another Dexter question from Emma. We got a couple here. You are our Dexter and yes, you really are. Let's see. Let's see for Andrew. I guess these will do these in. Opposite order, well, anyway, a little start at the top. All right. Another question for the Dexter crew.
Starting point is 00:24:20 What do you think of Paul being part of the story? Do you think he's going to come back later after going to jail again? Despite Dexter saying he's cold and doesn't have any feelings, he seems to actually really care about Rita and the kids so much so he even admits to getting emotionally involved when attacking Paul. How far do you think their relationship is going to go? Do you think Dexter will open up to Rita more in the future? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:24:43 He'll open up more part of me wonders. I don't think he I can't imagine he would open up fully unless she has some other secret wrinkle to her story that's like equally as heinous. Yeah, I'm very nervous to see how Paul continually factors in especially given that you know she's just found the boot as of episode 12. So I don't know. I got to imagine this is going to continue on at least into season two. I don't imagine that this will be Dexter's downfall just because we know that the show goes a while but at the same time very dreading the return of Paul story. Yeah Paul. I, I've got to assume pulse coming back for sure. And that storyline in regards to do I think how far do you think
Starting point is 00:25:33 their relationship is going to go? I don't know. I think she's going to find out about him. I have no idea if he's going to open up about him. I think that's more so about, like, does she find out the secret on her own? Or is he, I know that's kind of what you're asking, but like, it's really hard to tell, because Texter is, again, it's a facade, he's so empty. So I don't know which route, and the writers have done such a good job
Starting point is 00:26:01 of keeping me off their scent. So it's, I really have no idea. If I had to guess, I would say that there's probably going to be some kind of a traumatic story. I mean, she's already had so much trauma. So I don't see even saying it out loud. I don't I really don't know. I've also had a weird theory too and I could be totally off. I know I said dokes and Deborah I see them in season two I don't know why but I had and I know they got married in real life and they were no longer married Michael C. Hall and Jennifer Carpenter I
Starting point is 00:26:36 Know they're only foster brother and sister in this not shipping them. Are you I don't know why but at some point I'm not saying season two. I don't know why but I see them getting in a relationship too. I don't know why but at some point I'm not saying season two I don't know why but I see them getting in a relationship to I don't know why you know I Was informed recently that that step sibling fantasies are on the rise, so who knows it's not a step sibling They're just they're foster brother and sister Similar con it is it is yes. No no you're right. You are right. That that would be fascinating to watch. I don't know why that came to my mind, but like their chemistry, there's something about their chemistry and I know they got married as I pointed out a moment ago and I don't know why that again came to my floodgates, but we'll see. We'll
Starting point is 00:27:22 see. But I really do like Rita. I think she really does balance him out. And I think this relationship has been very fascinating to say the least so far. And I really think she is good for him and you know what he's done for her so far, albeit you know, whether you could make that case for it's a you know drawing that that gray moral line, but I've Personally been okay with it just because like like you pointed out that Paul did have it coming to him after Especially after what especially after what he tried to do to her But I again, I'd love to see this relationship go the distance and I think Julie
Starting point is 00:28:01 Julie Benz is such a great actor She really brings a lot of emotional gravitas to the role as a Jennifer Carpenter I think Julie Benz is what I'm talking about Rita. Oh yeah I wasn't talking about Deb anymore but that was just a weird statement I was just making that I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up doing that route but yeah I'd love to see the relationship go the distance. I just again after the whole Rudy thing I I just have no idea where you know, we're gonna go and what's gonna happen because like I was thinking before John made the correct Observation like you know, maybe when she does find out that he did this for me. Oh my god Hey, my kids aren't gonna be taken away from me and Paul like he did this nefariously awful thing and he was about to assault me in my bedroom and
Starting point is 00:28:47 Dexter did something really special for me. Maybe she'll look at it that way and then you know John pointed out well Yeah, but he's also been lying about this what else has he been lying about and like do I really know this guy like it's a Lot of things yeah, there's a lot of like damn the fact that he's willing to go to this length for me I've been through like has to touch you but also then yeah, it leads to a whole bunch of other questions Yeah, exactly. So yeah, and I mean the thing about him again the feelings I think is always a fascinating debate because yeah, it's like he does admit seemingly to getting you know Especially emotionally involved to the point where yeah Like when he smacks him when he pops him in the head, it feels like very spontaneous, like just a reflex almost like, yeah, this guy is like really pushing.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And and I really like again, the question of that, because, yeah, it feels like Dexter himself is a bit of an unreliable narrator in that. I don't think it's necessarily that there are no emotions. And I do believe, yeah, that he does have like a fondness and a kinship that he feels for Rita. And, you know, it's a place that he can, I guess, kind of pay forward the protection aspect. Like he's grown up with such a strong sense of protection from Harry and I'm sure from Deb in certain ways, too. And so, like, it's weird. The fact that he's like such a good dad figure slash like super from Harry and I'm sure from Deb in certain ways too. And so like, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:30:06 The fact that he's like such a good dad figure slash like supportive boyfriend figure like kind of makes sense to me. Yeah, like I feel like he cares about them, even if it's not like, again, traditionally articulated. It seems like there is something about, again, like the nurture. I think there's just so much about nature and nurture and a lot of Dexter himself and the situations he's in are from nurture and sort of commitment to things over time. And so, yeah, I buy that there is something actually there with him and Rita,
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Starting point is 00:32:57 For these next couple questions Episode 10 is a good episode I bet about episodes one through twelve absolutely But absolutely. What did you think? Close the end of season one. What did you think of Dexter's reaction to the room full of blood? He usually likes blood, sees art in it even. But this threw him into a panic attack at the end of the episode. We seem to go back to the room and memories flood back
Starting point is 00:33:20 of being in a pool of blood, presumably while his mother is killed with a chainsaw. It seems Rudy knew about this part of Dexter's Past since he practically recreated the scene in the motel room hotel room Using an electric chainsaw to spray the blood and he also knew who his bio father was with Dexter He was all about and when Dexter didn't even know and Harry went to Great Lakes to hide this info How do you think he knows all this and why do you think he's obsessed with Dexter? Well, I'm gonna take a guess. I think it was he was related to the nurse Do you want to take this one say you've been so on that theory I mean that wasn't a bad come on
Starting point is 00:33:56 You gotta give me a look that was the worst for especially for a show like this. It's a fair thing to entertain But I guess I was always expecting that it would have to either be something way more personal than just that, than just like, I want revenge for, you know, my also insane murderous, you know, family member who, you know, different MO thinks they're helping people and whatnot. But yeah, at the time, I'm not sure what I would have said. I might have thrown out like, maybe he's
Starting point is 00:34:24 his secret brother as like a guest, like in complete random, you know, like spitballing. Yeah, I don't know, man. Like part of me, I guess, would have maybe wondered if he was secretly somebody incidental in the police force that we haven't really spent much time with. Like I wouldn't have pegged him as being any of like the main ensemble or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah, it's a really good at the time. I would be fascinated to kind of see what we would have answered without knowing. Right. Right. I just don't think I would have gotten to that conclusion, but I would have loved to hear you just accidentally get to that conclusion to be like his brother. What? Yeah. And the way they the way they shoot that stuff is really good at sort of hiding what they don't want you to think about and really giving you what they do want you to think about. And so yeah, like I mean, the origin story, the idea of what happened
Starting point is 00:35:21 to Dexter and getting these pieces of, you know, revealed memories throughout the season was a great device and like really hit with a wallop, I thought, because, yeah, like the whole child in a pool of blood thing and then realizing that that was like the scene of a massacre and, you know, Harry making this choice of like, maybe this kid isn't too far gone because his brother certainly seems to be. And yeah, seeing the kind of again, nature and nurture represented in both of them, it makes a lot of sense in hindsight for them to be brothers and for them to have these, you know, unique and particular M.O.s. And I like that it's like the ice truck killer
Starting point is 00:36:00 thing feels creative off the bat, but then you get to the end and you're like, Oh, damn, it's meaningful in a whole other way. Yeah. But yeah, man. God, it was very I loved. Yeah. Having this panic attack aspect aspect, having these, you know, memories coming back like the again, Dexter's emotional journey is an emotional journey throughout the season. He's constantly being thrown out of his comfort zone and thrown out of the the status quo to you know Be struck with these memories and this rush of like you see him panicking you see him overwhelmed
Starting point is 00:36:34 There's something in there, and I thought yeah the characterization is really fascinating Yeah, no totally and you know this show did a really good job obviously not justifying Yeah, no, totally. And you know, this show did a really good job, obviously not justifying being burnt boy. What's this David? Good Rudy's real name again. Brian Brian or a pointy by he says you couldn't pronounce Brian. So you call me by any. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I like that name. Anyways, of course it's not justified in his actions, but I actually did feel sympathetic for him. Like having witnessed this massacre of his mother as a, however old he was as a child. And then, you know, really in Harry's eyes, like being gone and then having to live as many years as he did in the psych ward and all that. And obviously being, you know, having, you know, his brother not being there with him any longer and being
Starting point is 00:37:27 like, you know, completely isolated from him, which was his only connection to his mother as well. So I actually again, no justification of any kind. It's awful what he did to people. It's disgusting even, but you feel bad for him. And like he didn't have that. He didn't have the code of hair. He didn't have that to the lich, that mentorship and that nurturing that thankfully that Dexter did and like was set on that righteous and good path. And it just shows you like why that is so important to have, you know what I mean? It's, it's really a very, uh, to instill strong and, and nurturing and, uh, good values onto others, like really goes a long way. Like, yes, he's got this, but also to just before I even add to that while I was so pleasantly surprised by like, and saddened also by like getting into more
Starting point is 00:38:20 of Dexter's past. Cause I was just curious, why does he have this appetite, that monster within him? Okay. That's clearly answered. But again, I love how the show just really shows the contrast of what can be and what will be if you have those proper, you know, nurturing values like that are guiding you, that guidance that shifts you into the right direction. I think the show just did a very mature job of executing on that. Yeah, and just the unraveling, because at first, when you just meet it at face value of just like this guy who's just got these urges and this is just the way that he copes with them.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And then by the end of the season, you're like, wow, I see how you got this way in a way that doesn't feel it's horrific and outlandish, but it's earned in a way where it doesn't feel random or feel like two over the top, even like it's it's like, damn, of course, of course, if you witness something like this at an impression, an impressionable age before you're even fully formed is going to have some kind of crazy effect on you. And and yeah, like that, that that thinness of the line between like man if you had been just a little bit more aware in that moment maybe
Starting point is 00:39:28 Harry wouldn't have walked out of the the drum with you who knows yeah good ahead could have had three siblings or you know Deb Rudy and or Brian and or no or nobody is what I'm saying like if Dexter had been a little bit older if either one if they if if Brian had been a little bit older if either one if they if if Brian had been a little bit younger or you know they might have both made it out of Dexter been a little bit older Maybe neither one of them, right? But yeah, I guess maybe that's the other thing I might have imagined is like okay Maybe this is somebody who like you know I? Don't even know like yeah, I guess any theory would have been like, maybe it's somebody who
Starting point is 00:40:07 I don't know. It's good. Yeah. Like there is that professional admiration of like, man, your work, my work, you know, we're communicating to each other in code. I don't know. I don't know who else I would have guessed. Yeah. Landon Miller, last question and another, you know, obviously, we've been over this in the previous question, too. You know, what are your thoughts? Thank you, Landon. Thank you, Landon. On Rudy, what do you think his motives are?
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yeah, at the time, I wouldn't really have fully. I would have just stuck with my gun. No. Yeah. I'm like, did you have a run in with each other at some point? Because, yeah, he does seem fixated on Dexter in particular. Of course, I'm like, how would you have found out about what he's doing? Did you know Dexter murder somebody in relation to you that gave you some other lease on life or helped you out in some way? And now you're trying to like repay him or grab his attention by you know Doing this kind of work your own way
Starting point is 00:41:09 But his motives are so kind of again more sinister and again. He's he's killing people who Aren't the garbage that need to be taken out as it is articulated in Harry's code Dexter's code But I yeah really great performance on him really great sort of curious build-up great he's very creepy but also too you really as I pointed out earlier you really feel sympathetic for him not justifying what he does just what he had to go through as a child but not but you are still like you still feel that menacing threat level in terms of like Dexter has met his match and just like, you know, in term and also
Starting point is 00:41:50 the mystery behind the twist and all that. But one other thing I did want to point out that I'm looking forward to seeing in season two, you know, we saw a little bit of the narration of the dialogue at the end of season one, how kind of his worldview has kind of shattered in regards to that Harry has betrayed him. I'm very curious how we're going to tackle and handle that. And in season two as well, because like Harry's everything for Dexter, that's like his, his, his bane of life. You know what I mean? So I'm very fascinated how that's going to work as well as like, you know, Devin and Dexter's interactions are always so emotional and heartfelt, but also some very much for Deb as well as anyone else who tries to get anything out of Dexter, very empty and that hurts Deb a lot. And she's
Starting point is 00:42:37 really going to need Dexter after the experience and the repercussions of the consequences of what she just went through with Brian here. So I'm very curious about the dramatic and emotional effects this is going to have on Deb if Dexter is being himself and not opening up when she really needs it. So I feel like we're going to have a very even more so dramatic season, especially when it comes to those two. I would have to imagine. Yeah. I'm really curious to see what the next, you know, like season arcing killer will be. Oh yeah. How do you follow this up? I'm sure it's going to be great, but like, damn, this was like, holy shit. Well yeah, it's a great place to start, but also yeah, it leaves you open to
Starting point is 00:43:16 the question of you're like, yeah, how do you top top this or at least make something that feels just as breathless and vital as something so personal. And so I guess I'm not expecting something like that, but I am very excited, very fascinated. I love the at least prospect of the setup of the next season in terms of like, OK, we got even more heat from dokes. We've got LaGuerreta dealing with this new power structure and what not. Angels recovering. And Deb has just had her whole world rocks I have to imagine she is gonna be well off the
Starting point is 00:43:48 romance train for a while yeah Rita with the shoe Rita with the shoe very nervous about that this was fantastic man this has such a great sense a lot of great set a season two like you just said yeah great setups a lot of great sense of place time love the the music. One of the best opening sequences I've ever seen. We were on the same page. Opening sequences. Never get tired of it. Michael C Hall is great. Love the ensemble. This was a plus season of TV. Amazing. I can't wait for season two. Any other stray thoughts to throw out there? Just yeah, it's like I said, it's very emotional and dramatic thought-provoking and I think you said it best earlier the I
Starting point is 00:44:27 just loved the entire setup like a serial killer who goes after other serial killers. It's just such a wooden a boastful and fascinating idea and the way they executed in here was just so meticulously done and so Perfect at least in season one. And I just I'm so fascinated by it because there's so many ways you could have messed that up. And they just in my, in my opinion, they did it so perfectly in this first season. Oh yeah. And you get enough of him doing that without having it be like, we have to have him kill
Starting point is 00:45:00 someone every episode. Yeah, right, right, right. And they didn't overdo that too. And like, again, like his justifications for why he does in the code of Harry and then the way they also went into nonlinear storytelling and the way Harry mentors him and guys like those scenes like really had tucked it and also to Deb the Jennifer Carpenter she freaking rocks as an actor. She is so damn good. Like the way she got on dokes for saying leave my brother alone like just in those Scenes where she really has to get intensely emotional She is so good yeah, like I really want to give her a crash she is
Starting point is 00:45:34 100% and James reymar to like Yeah, and I really like killed it Yeah, and the way they were like dissolving in and out of flashbacks in the final episode is really cool And yeah, like I like the conflict of Harry and the whole thing sort of like there's it's a very The parental kind of conflict in a lot of not in every case obviously but in a lot of cases like you've given me so much You've shaped my life. You've helped me get by and yet there are things I don't know about you there are things you didn't tell me there are things you did That you chose on my behalf for perhaps my protection my safety
Starting point is 00:46:06 But that now as an adult I don't necessarily Agree with or see I die on or feel the need for and it's it's fascinating like it feels Very unique, but also yeah like very kind of universal in that way. Yeah, even despite the extreme circumstances You know we all kind of discover things as we grow up and get disillusioned. 100% and we just saw that too recently in Cobra Kai where Daniel kind of had his worldview of Mr. Miyagi rather shattered when he's like he found out certain things that happened in the Sakai Takai.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Like find out your mentors human. What did you do? What happened? And then, okay. Yeah. So but it's like wait No, I knew I knew the man I loved and like how he shaped me So like you know, so I still believe in him So yeah, I'm excited and curious to see how we're gonna deal with that drama
Starting point is 00:46:55 You know in regards to Dexter and how he feels about Harry so but I'm excited. I love this show so much Yeah, same man. Thank you guys. Thank you guys guys Thank you for joining us and for making this opportunity possible. Thank you for joining me. Absolutely. Thank you for joining me I've been I've been waiting for you know at a certain point I was like, okay I got to pick the exact right moment to watch Dexter and then this opportunity arose Very excited to hear y'all's feedback and to share this and to keep going. So yeah, thanks for chiming in Thanks for all your thoughts and all your enthusiasm and we'll catch you for season two soon enough. Keep your eyes peeled and Yeah
Starting point is 00:47:33 Don't uh don't we don't don't wander down any dark alley I thought that was to the way he handled the ice trod killer by the end With this setup and like he's got he's doing it as sort of his own style his own mo But then combining into Rudy's style Wow, so many ideas again. We could yeah, we could go on for ages. Thank you guys. Thank you guys and Just keep an eye on that dark past reviewers. We'll see you next time Kevin me yeah We'll see you next time What did you do to get on dexter's list no
Starting point is 00:48:16 What did he do John Kevin has been giving people serial paper cuts? Yeah, he's a post office worker And he is slowly murdering people over many years time by just giving them enough paper cuts every weekly trip. It's brutal, man. Yeah, it's crazy. That's why Dexter's got to take him out. Because it could happen to you or me. You might not even notice until it's too late. That is awful.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Jeez. Yeah, Kevin Meek is diabolical out here. And that cool-looking profile pic, you look like an appealing guy. That's how you pull people in. Very deceitful. Yeah. I mean, he's always in every every time we're doing putting it around for questions for the Royal Reader could have participated in our reviews.
Starting point is 00:48:54 He's always putting out a question like every single time. He's helping us to drive the conversation. Yeah, he's learning stuff about us and he can stalk us more effectively. Now he's a sacrificial offer to Dexter Morgan. That's right. Thanks, Kevin Meek, for always smiling with them big cheeks.

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